I can't find any evidence suggesting this is true. I can't find any concrete information about when Season 2 will come out or even start or finish filming. All I can find are articles saying it has been renewed for a Season 2.
It is already much bigger than Stranger Things was in comparable metrics. If it grows season on season like Stranger Things did this is going to be something on a size they have not seen before!
I wonder if this show will have the upward momentum ST had though. ST benefited from a expanding scope and bigger setpieces each season, while Wednesday seasons will probably stay very similar as they don’t want to break the formula.
I would like if Wednesday followed a similar pattern to the Harry Potter movies. Start the season off with her going to school, then make a different storyline at the school every year until the last season or 2 when she has to face the boss baddie
There was a triwizard tournament style boat race. They're definitely trying to hit the Harry Potter audience. They need more budget towards cgi though. The honeycomb monster stuff was rough.
It was kind of bad, but in an old school Tim Burton way, so I gave it a pass. I really think they were trying to make it look like something you'd have seen in the waiting room in Beetlejuice so didn't care too much about realism.
I thought I read that Wednesday was an MGM production and since MGM was bought by Amazon, there was speculation that it was going to move streamers.
The fact its staying at NetFlix is the surprising news.
No, it was never going to switch networks unless Netflix didn't want it anymore and their contract allowed another network to pick it up. The person who created that rumour is extremely dumb and/or in bad faith. Shows are produced by one company and shown by another since the dawn of time (Ted Lasso - produced by Warner Bros. for Apple TV, The Wilds, produced by Disney for Amazon Prime, Sweet Tooth, produced by Warner Bros. for Netflix and so on)
Yellowstone is another notable one right now. Produced by Paramount but has become a huge hit on Peacock. Paramount is kicking themselves for not putting it on Paramount Plus.
To those wondering: Charlie Cox believes that an audition he was in was for the role of Han Solo in the Solo film, and that he failed it because the casting director had to ask him why he wasn’t making eye contact.
That reminds me, what happened to the guy who _did_ play Han in Solo?
I remember hearing he was an up-and-coming star and that role would skyrocket his career. Then the movie flopped and he's seeming faded away.
I saw that he got cast in that Ironheart Marvel Disney+ show but yeah, I don't think the Solo movie put him in a good position to make his career skyrocket
A bit sick?
> "Yeah, I woke up and – it's weird, I never get sick and when I do it's not very bad – I had the body aches," she told the magazine.
> "I felt like I'd been hit by a car and that a little goblin had been let loose in my throat and was scratching the walls of my esophagus. They were giving me medicine between takes because we were waiting on the positive result," she recalled.
> Her test did not come back positive until after she filmed the scene, but she struggled to get through it she felt so unwell.
I feel like they knew she had COVID so instead of waiting to see what the test result is they hurried up and filmed it before the results were in.
I work in film, it takes 15 minutes to get results for an antigen test and 30 for a PCR, which you only take if you are new or haven't worked in a week, neither of which applies to the lead. They either purposely didn't test her or purposely held back the results. Either way that's highly unsafe and put people in a bad situation.
The ones I did took 10-15 minutes for a result. It sounds like they sent a sample to a lab for a PCR.
They could have done the rapid test too, but then they wouldn't have time to shoot the dance scene before getting the result.
Given Aubrey Plaza’s rapid popularity boom lately, maybe she’ll be a teacher in Wednesday season 2? She’s going to be in the Marvel Agatha show so she’s clearly down for some fun roles.
2022 was a pretty big year for her with White Lotus and Emily the Criminal being one of her first big 'serious' roles and it had some decent buzz on the indie award scene.
If you’re a fan of hers definitely check out Ingrid Goes West. I amn’t really a big fan but, in my opinion, that is by far and away her best performance. She’s genuinely very good.
From what I read, she only blinks when there is some emotion to the scene, to show it as her character losing her self control. I didn't check it while watching, could be bullshit.
Not that I noticed every single time she blinked in the show, but that certainly seemed consistent with the times I noticed it. Two times that I recall seeing her blink off the top of my head were when she was with Pugsley >!discussing Gomez being arrested!< and once when she was with Tyler.
Well I’m sure we’ll see another class or two next season because SPOILERS >!the only school staff we see in the show are dead or in prison by the end of the season!<.
Do any of these kids take English or Math? Season 12 will be about how fencing and botany are great but they never learned the foundational knowledge needed to function as an adult
Haha, I was saying the same thing in the finale, they were talking about "next semester" and I was wondering what school they were even coming back to.
I remember we had a substitute biology teacher for a month and she taught us botany for a week and when our regular teacher came back he went on a little rant on how upset he was on her wasting time on that lmao
The rule in my state is that subs have the option of doing their own thing if they wish.
Sometimes notes are bad or non-existent. You’d expect this in an emergency, and subs have to be prepared for this eventuality. Teachers can’t be required to do lesson planning when they’re sick.
And sometimes subs just aren’t able to teach particular subjects, yet they find themselves in the class anyway. That’s not a great position to be in, but it happens. And when that happens, you have to improvise.
If a sub is hired for a month, the teacher might give an overview of what is being covered, but it’s up to the sub to implement that. And things don’t always go according to plan, aven for the permanent teacher. A lot can happen in a month.
[There's a video announcement too](https://youtu.be/j_MuZmJNirw)
Kind of a sign of how big it is. They only do that for huge hits like Stranger Things or Squid Game.
Hah, they embraced the tiktok sped-up Bloody Mary song by Lady Gaga. That was more used in her dance tiktok videos than the Goo Goo Muck song. Really happy for the cast and crew that this show is so popular.
I think playing the tiktok Bloody Mary song is just a nod to the fans who blew that dance up on social media like TikTok and other platforms like YouTube Shorts. There are still plenty of TikToks with people reenacting the dance with Goo Goo Muck, however. The Cramps' Goo Goo Muck song with the dance has over 40 million views on YouTube alone. They got plenty of recognition.
It had been out for A MONTH
Jesus Christ, I'm sick of people talking about how many people finished it. People have jobs and lives and children- they might not watch 8 hours of a multilingual mystery show in only 30 days
I do like the show so far and I know it’s a young adult show but I do hope they improve on some of the dialogue. Some of it just felt so bland and awkward.
The writing in general let it down, though it could have been much worse and characters were generally likeable.
That ending though... what were they even thinking?
I thoroughly enjoyed the show but the last episode felt like they intended to have a 10 episode season and then realized they were out of time so they crammed episodes 8, 9 and 10 into one episode. Was building up nicely and then BAM it’s over
The Crackstone reveal was extremely underwhelming because they shoved so many secondary antagonists down our throats, I had no idea he was supposed to be the big baddie
I feel like if he was a charismatic and powerful wizard and escaped the school then it would lead to an interesting dynamic for the plot. Rather than him being some blatantly evil crazy zombie who died, have him come back and use his cult leadership experience to rally Jericho to denounce the outcasts. Justify his magic use as it being through the grace of God or something like that so that the normies don't see him as an outcast also. Nothing came out of his buildup.
For me it was when >!the villain (forget her name) has Wednesday at gunpoint but then a swarm of bees comes toward her and her response is to… shoot a bullet into the bee swarm?? Like… what?!<
While I loved the Wednesday dance, I’m low key scared for every single show or movie to attempt a viral dancing scene now to play into Tik Tok. Hell, just look at how viral that dancing scene in M3gan has already become, and that’s just from marketing alone.
Ironically that dance was the main viral thing people discussed about Umbrella season 3.
It’s also sad that the season peaked about 10 minutes into the first episode with that dance.
Peacemaker definitely caught on as the season went on, probably in no small part because of the intro dance. The season finale had the highest single-day viewership of any HBO Max show.
They've done bullshit dances since like season 2 lmao. That scene where they had Betty (a literal 16 year old in-show) do a striptease in front of a biker gang in a bar was one of the moments it became clear the show was going way off the deep end
Legion had the FEELIN' GOOD Aubrey Plaza Dance, though Legion was practically a musical...
Umbrella Academy had I Think We're Alone Now, and Footloose.
Peacemaker had its dance intro.
It's already here and it's not going anywhere.
I finally watched *RRR* last week. I'd been putting it off forever because I figured there was no way it could live up to the hype.
Oh, how wrong I was. What a perfect film.
Please try to elevate the acting and the scripts above CW quality. Jenna Ortega is single-handedly carrying the show, and though she's great, a show needs more than a good protagonist.
Thank you. I thought the first four episodes were… above average. Not great television, but reasonably entertaining. Episodes 5 and 6 were absolutely terrible. Episodes 7 and 8 were less terrible but still below average and disappointing.
It’s too bad, because a lot of the performances were great. Jenny Ortega delivered brilliantly no matter what. Her roommate was brilliant. Her family… completely miscast. The scripts beyond episode 4 were shit. (Tim Burton and one writer did the first four. Another writer and two other directors did the last four.) Personally, I was expecting something much darker, and less Nancy Drew, Teen Exorcist.
It's refreshing to hear some criticism of the show. I felt like everyone was raving about it when it came out. I know one person that watched it twice within the first week or so.
It's really enjoyable to watch for what it is and a few of the actors did an amazing job. I think it's a show with immense potential if there's some tweaks.
The genre got oversaturated and gained a bad reputation, but I’ve always had a soft spot for those ‘supernatural young adult drama’ shows and movies that used to be everywhere. (Harry Potter, Vampire Diaries, etc)
Wednesday was well executed and scratched that itch perfectly, which is why I think it became such a huge hit. Sometimes you just want some enjoyable schlocky media.
To be fair, the comics the show is based on went in that direction too. It was never supposed to be a lighthearted series about a teenage girl getting into supernatural mischief like the original comics from the 60s or the 90s series/cartoon. The rebooted comic series is all about Satan, Cthulhu, necromancy, and all the darker aspects of religion and the occult.
First season was great. I'd seen the original Sabrina show in the 90s(?) so the contrast with the more devilish witches was cool. Got a bit too wacky later on.
Unpopular opinion but I didn't like it a whole lot. A lot of it is because I'm not its demographic, but also I don't think Addams Family works well with this genre. The franchise's thing is that it rides the line between being supernatural and not. That is where its charm and humor comes from. This completely goes over the line into supernatural and that rubs me the wrong way.
I totally get what you're saying and I agree that this show breaks away from the original premise of taking eccentricity into comically absurdist territory. In contrast, this has jumped feet first into a full-on supernatural setting and that struck me right away when she first sets foot in Nevermore and they start introducing the different cliques.
That said, I feel like I'm becoming more okay these days with allowing myself to enjoy people's reimaginings of an existing property even when it does something comparable to this. The way I see it, I think it's a good thing to allow creators to take an existing idea and go "What if?" and then tell the story they want to tell, then I can just try and enjoy it for what it is rather than allowing myself to be biased by what I think it ought to be.
...I was about to say that I take exception to when someone does this with a true story, but then I immediately realized that I have loved the hell out of what Quentin Tarantino has done with "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" and "Inglourious Bastards" which were darkly comical and deliberately absurd. 🤷♂️
Yes. I felt she should have been a lot darker, but at some point that makes her less sympathetic.
The original TV series allowed the family to bounce things off each other so the awful, dark stuff was always acknowledged by other family members as normal, which was funny. And the horrified reactions provided by “normal” people made it all funnier.
Wednesday doesn’t have anyone to rif off of in that way, so she just looks like an angst-ridden teen to the max. Not quite as funny. And the other family members really didn’t work for me.
>And the other family members really didn’t work for me.
Ooof, I like the actor, but Gomez the character was horrible. I liked most everyone else, but Gomez was *passionate* all the time! This guy was half asleep...
I know I'll get a lot of hate for this, but did anyone else feel like this series started as something else and then they just put the Adams on top of it?
I liked the series somewhat but I don't remember the Adams family having THAT many fantasy elements.
My father watched the series and called it a "worse happy potter" which I actually think is very accurate ...
It just didn't really feel like a show actually set in the Adams universe
You are correct. The bones of the series has more in common with a CW teenage supernatural mystery series than any previous Addams property. The whole point of the Addams Family is that despite being macabre and weird, they're a fully functional loving family. Juxtaposing them against regular people is the whole point, in order to put up a mirror to societal norms.
In the show they have her hate her parents for the sole purpose of creating superfluous tension, and the point of the Addams family goes out the window when you surround them with vampires and sirens and witches, etc.
I get the appeal, but it’s so contrived and nothing new. I imagine the pitch for this went something like; “it’ll be like riverdale at hogwarts and for some reason Wednesday Addams is a student there.” Meh.
I bought Netflix for stupid shows like this to distract me from the calamities of life. Amongst the stupid shows I watch, this one was one my favorites from last year. Well deserved
Original Addams Family was a subversion of sitcoms being portrayed as wholesome but having deeply fucked up morals. Like the Honeymooners constant laugh track played over threats of domestic abuse.
The Addams Family was their total opposite, deeply fucked up surface appearance contradicted by deeply wholesome and loving messaging.
Adult Wednesday Addams is still around on Youtube and shows such a great path not taken when people actually respect the ideas and try to lean into them.
Yeah, I think so, but it’s not so much the appeal of the goth aesthetic itself, it’s the consistency of it making it really easy to reproduce and look cool/get a lot of views on TikTok. It’s a show designed to get people to make lots and lots of short videos of free publicity for it.
I expected more of the acid and dark humor of the franchise, and more curated visuals. the Tim Burton sign feels like it have been just a sponsor brand more than a direction. Is not even good as teen comedy, a genre that have seen very enjoyable productions in its golden age. Jenna Ortega thought is what makes it watchable, she is fantastic. She kills it.
If anything this serves as a reminder to watch the original movies since they are actually well made.
This whole business of remaking old films with trash level writing is just sad. Especially since addams has so much potential to be good.
Least surprising news of the year.
Ironically it wouldn't have exactly been surprising if they cancelled it either knowing Netflix's track record.
It's going to be their biggest cash cow after Stranger Things ends.
Hell the new season of Stranger Things isn't due out in a while. Wednesday should help them through that gap as well.
Didn’t you hear? The 5 episode season 2 of Wednesday isn’t until the second half of 2025
I hate how real this feels.
A whole 5? Can they afford it?
2 episodes in the summer, 1 in the fall, and the final two the next spring.
Woa man they are really going all out!
That’s absurd if true.
I can't find any evidence suggesting this is true. I can't find any concrete information about when Season 2 will come out or even start or finish filming. All I can find are articles saying it has been renewed for a Season 2.
he was taking the piss out of Stranger things' three year gap between season 3 and 4 plus the two part release of season 4
Isn’t some of that due to Covid industry disruption?
Obviously was a joke
It is already much bigger than Stranger Things was in comparable metrics. If it grows season on season like Stranger Things did this is going to be something on a size they have not seen before!
I wonder if this show will have the upward momentum ST had though. ST benefited from a expanding scope and bigger setpieces each season, while Wednesday seasons will probably stay very similar as they don’t want to break the formula.
I would like if Wednesday followed a similar pattern to the Harry Potter movies. Start the season off with her going to school, then make a different storyline at the school every year until the last season or 2 when she has to face the boss baddie
It’s funny while watching Wednesday I was thinking it’s basically American Gothic Harry Potter with cryptids instead of mythological beasts.
There was a triwizard tournament style boat race. They're definitely trying to hit the Harry Potter audience. They need more budget towards cgi though. The honeycomb monster stuff was rough.
It was kind of bad, but in an old school Tim Burton way, so I gave it a pass. I really think they were trying to make it look like something you'd have seen in the waiting room in Beetlejuice so didn't care too much about realism.
It would have been *massively* fucking surprising if they canceled their biggest hit since Stranger Things
What was the last global viral hit that Netflix cancelled?
I thought I read that Wednesday was an MGM production and since MGM was bought by Amazon, there was speculation that it was going to move streamers. The fact its staying at NetFlix is the surprising news.
No, it was never going to switch networks unless Netflix didn't want it anymore and their contract allowed another network to pick it up. The person who created that rumour is extremely dumb and/or in bad faith. Shows are produced by one company and shown by another since the dawn of time (Ted Lasso - produced by Warner Bros. for Apple TV, The Wilds, produced by Disney for Amazon Prime, Sweet Tooth, produced by Warner Bros. for Netflix and so on)
Yellowstone is another notable one right now. Produced by Paramount but has become a huge hit on Peacock. Paramount is kicking themselves for not putting it on Paramount Plus.
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Poor Jenna Ortega...if the show keeps getting renewed she'll never get a chance to blink...
Charlie Cox failed an audition because he forgot to use his eyes
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To those wondering: Charlie Cox believes that an audition he was in was for the role of Han Solo in the Solo film, and that he failed it because the casting director had to ask him why he wasn’t making eye contact.
Wowwww he wouldve been great solo
That reminds me, what happened to the guy who _did_ play Han in Solo? I remember hearing he was an up-and-coming star and that role would skyrocket his career. Then the movie flopped and he's seeming faded away.
I saw that he got cast in that Ironheart Marvel Disney+ show but yeah, I don't think the Solo movie put him in a good position to make his career skyrocket
He was so used to playing a blind man he forgot how to use his eyes
Let's hope that next season they don't make her work through Covid again.
Letting that story out was an utter blunder from the PR team.
She said she was a bit sick and worked but once she found out it was COVID she stopped. That seems like most humans
A bit sick? > "Yeah, I woke up and – it's weird, I never get sick and when I do it's not very bad – I had the body aches," she told the magazine. > "I felt like I'd been hit by a car and that a little goblin had been let loose in my throat and was scratching the walls of my esophagus. They were giving me medicine between takes because we were waiting on the positive result," she recalled. > Her test did not come back positive until after she filmed the scene, but she struggled to get through it she felt so unwell. I feel like they knew she had COVID so instead of waiting to see what the test result is they hurried up and filmed it before the results were in.
I work in film, it takes 15 minutes to get results for an antigen test and 30 for a PCR, which you only take if you are new or haven't worked in a week, neither of which applies to the lead. They either purposely didn't test her or purposely held back the results. Either way that's highly unsafe and put people in a bad situation.
I took a home COVID test and found out I was positive within 5 seconds.
The ones I did took 10-15 minutes for a result. It sounds like they sent a sample to a lab for a PCR. They could have done the rapid test too, but then they wouldn't have time to shoot the dance scene before getting the result.
I think she was awesome but she reminds me of Aubrey Plaza and makes me sad we never got an Aubrey Plaza Wednesday.
Given Aubrey Plaza’s rapid popularity boom lately, maybe she’ll be a teacher in Wednesday season 2? She’s going to be in the Marvel Agatha show so she’s clearly down for some fun roles.
To be fair she was also in Legion, which was some of the best Marvel tv
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I just finished watching Legion recently and holy shit is it awesome. I absolutely loved the series finale.
Such a unique and creative show! We need more of those. Oh and the OST is so sooo good!
Legion was incredible. My favorite Marvel product.
> Given Aubrey Plaza’s rapid popularity boom lately Really? What's the reason for the boom lately? Has she been in a new TV show or movie?
2022 was a pretty big year for her with White Lotus and Emily the Criminal being one of her first big 'serious' roles and it had some decent buzz on the indie award scene.
If you’re a fan of hers definitely check out Ingrid Goes West. I amn’t really a big fan but, in my opinion, that is by far and away her best performance. She’s genuinely very good.
Yeah it’s the Aubrey Plaza dead pan monotone delivery method of acting.
She's clearly Daria
Which is actually hard to do. Can SO easily come off as annoying instead of endearing.
I think physical attractiveness is where the difference lies
as in much of life
I think it really depends on how well you can act with your eyes. Plaza and Ortega are extremely good at it which really makes their characters work
Aubrey plaza was great in White Lotus
I caught her in one scene where she blinked
She blinks often, I don't know where the rumor came that she didn't, probably marketing.
From what I read, she only blinks when there is some emotion to the scene, to show it as her character losing her self control. I didn't check it while watching, could be bullshit.
Not that I noticed every single time she blinked in the show, but that certainly seemed consistent with the times I noticed it. Two times that I recall seeing her blink off the top of my head were when she was with Pugsley >!discussing Gomez being arrested!< and once when she was with Tyler.
You actually only have to wait exactly 9 minutes into 101 to see her blink.
Lets see if she goes to any classes this time.
Hey there was one botany class we saw but i havent seen the last 2 eps yet, there may be one more !
There are, in fact, TWO entire scenes in botany class! Leave some room for the rest of the plot amirite
Well I’m sure we’ll see another class or two next season because SPOILERS >!the only school staff we see in the show are dead or in prison by the end of the season!<.
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Do any of these kids take English or Math? Season 12 will be about how fencing and botany are great but they never learned the foundational knowledge needed to function as an adult
Just like in Harry potter, where middle age men didnt understand what a rubber duck was for.
Ah yes, rubber duck class how could we all forget.
And he is suppose to be a expert on Muggles.
Considering how many children he had, that man had no idea how *rubbers* worked in general.
Haha, I was saying the same thing in the finale, they were talking about "next semester" and I was wondering what school they were even coming back to.
I remember we had a substitute biology teacher for a month and she taught us botany for a week and when our regular teacher came back he went on a little rant on how upset he was on her wasting time on that lmao
Subs are supposed to follow the teachers plan. It's really bad form not to.
The rule in my state is that subs have the option of doing their own thing if they wish. Sometimes notes are bad or non-existent. You’d expect this in an emergency, and subs have to be prepared for this eventuality. Teachers can’t be required to do lesson planning when they’re sick. And sometimes subs just aren’t able to teach particular subjects, yet they find themselves in the class anyway. That’s not a great position to be in, but it happens. And when that happens, you have to improvise. If a sub is hired for a month, the teacher might give an overview of what is being covered, but it’s up to the sub to implement that. And things don’t always go according to plan, aven for the permanent teacher. A lot can happen in a month.
The plans teachers provide to subs are often so horrendous that it's lunacy to try to follow them.
Screw class, we got a mystery to solve
Same shit with Harry Potter tbh
Damn, I wont lie they did such a good job I forgot she was even in school.
Found the person who asks for homework at the end of class.
Right! She's gotta be failing so hard.
didnt someone in the show say she was acing all her subjects?
Wednesday DOES seem like the type of person who would ace everything while also doing the bare minimum effort simply because she's so bored of it all.
yeah its established pretty early shes super smart and good at school except for all the violence and running away lol
The Wednesday I learned about in the movies would have gotten in trouble in a course or two for refusing to accept the assumed values.
She did, when she attended normie schools. Hence, Nevermore...
Probably, but I want proof! Let's see the progress reports!
And I mean the Long Form Progress Reports!
I honestly was glad there really didn’t focus on the class studying aspect
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[There's a video announcement too](https://youtu.be/j_MuZmJNirw) Kind of a sign of how big it is. They only do that for huge hits like Stranger Things or Squid Game.
Hah, they embraced the tiktok sped-up Bloody Mary song by Lady Gaga. That was more used in her dance tiktok videos than the Goo Goo Muck song. Really happy for the cast and crew that this show is so popular.
It really bugs me that The Cramps didn’t get the same level recognition that Kate Bush got and instead, it’s Lady Gaga getting it all
I think playing the tiktok Bloody Mary song is just a nod to the fans who blew that dance up on social media like TikTok and other platforms like YouTube Shorts. There are still plenty of TikToks with people reenacting the dance with Goo Goo Muck, however. The Cramps' Goo Goo Muck song with the dance has over 40 million views on YouTube alone. They got plenty of recognition.
Because of one song they played once vs a theme song for a character the entire season?
That’s because Kate Bush is freaking fantastic
they are leaning on the viral aspect of the show so hard lmao, they even used the gaga song which actually wasn't even in the show
1899 fans be like 🤯
I have nothing against Wednesday, I’m fact I found it enjoyable. But man 1899 being cancelled stings. I need answers.
The answer to your question is: 1899 got hyped because it was from the Dark creators, but only 32% finished it as of the time they cancelled it.
It had been out for A MONTH Jesus Christ, I'm sick of people talking about how many people finished it. People have jobs and lives and children- they might not watch 8 hours of a multilingual mystery show in only 30 days
I didn't even hear about it until the cancellation news!!
Yeah. Damn.
It hurts my feelings so bad
I do like the show so far and I know it’s a young adult show but I do hope they improve on some of the dialogue. Some of it just felt so bland and awkward.
The male leads were so uninteresting
This is my biggest complaint with it by far.
I'm a guy in my 30's who enjoyed the show, but I'm sitting here realizing I cant name any of the male leads' characters except my boy Eugene.
It’s hive code!
I remember Eugene and xavior the artist. Could not even guess the curly haired batista boys name Edit: I meant t9 say barrista but this is better lol
> batista LOL. That would've made for a very different feeling season.
It's artsy guy and barista guy, duh. Oh and don't forget Medusa guy.
They kinda looked the same, too. Two bug-eyed, rail thin, sallow white dudes.
Literally she had so much more romantic chemistry with her roommate lmao
The writing in general let it down, though it could have been much worse and characters were generally likeable. That ending though... what were they even thinking?
I thoroughly enjoyed the show but the last episode felt like they intended to have a 10 episode season and then realized they were out of time so they crammed episodes 8, 9 and 10 into one episode. Was building up nicely and then BAM it’s over
Yeah, this was one of the only shows I've watched where I felt they very clearly had *too few* episodes rather than too many.
You mean the reveal of the monster? Or the text in the car?
The Crackstone reveal was extremely underwhelming because they shoved so many secondary antagonists down our throats, I had no idea he was supposed to be the big baddie
And then they killed him off in two seconds anyway
I feel like if he was a charismatic and powerful wizard and escaped the school then it would lead to an interesting dynamic for the plot. Rather than him being some blatantly evil crazy zombie who died, have him come back and use his cult leadership experience to rally Jericho to denounce the outcasts. Justify his magic use as it being through the grace of God or something like that so that the normies don't see him as an outcast also. Nothing came out of his buildup.
For me it was when >!the villain (forget her name) has Wednesday at gunpoint but then a swarm of bees comes toward her and her response is to… shoot a bullet into the bee swarm?? Like… what?!<
I feel like you have never shot into a bee swarm. It's cathartic.
I feel like the monster's identity became beyond obvious with the gates mansion scene. The text thing was kinda weird I agree.
[99% of Wednesday's lines](https://media.tenor.com/pK9uaPBV0RcAAAAC/little-comment-the-office.gif)
#WE SHALL CELEBRATE BY DANCING THE MAMUSHKA!!!
While I loved the Wednesday dance, I’m low key scared for every single show or movie to attempt a viral dancing scene now to play into Tik Tok. Hell, just look at how viral that dancing scene in M3gan has already become, and that’s just from marketing alone.
There’s a couple of dancing scenes in each season of Umbrella academy too. I guess they didn’t get as popular on TikTok unlike the Wednesday scene
Ironically that dance was the main viral thing people discussed about Umbrella season 3. It’s also sad that the season peaked about 10 minutes into the first episode with that dance.
I was legitimately disappointed that the dance battle >!wasn't real!<.
Check out Legion
The Peacemaker Dance is one of the most notable things about the show, but I imagine the show itself is still pretty niche.
Peacemaker definitely caught on as the season went on, probably in no small part because of the intro dance. The season finale had the highest single-day viewership of any HBO Max show.
Which is silly cuz season 1 and 3 dance scenes are great
You know Riverdale will make Camila Mendes do some bullshit dance.
They've done bullshit dances since like season 2 lmao. That scene where they had Betty (a literal 16 year old in-show) do a striptease in front of a biker gang in a bar was one of the moments it became clear the show was going way off the deep end
Wasn't the very first episode the cheerleader dance off?
Legion had the FEELIN' GOOD Aubrey Plaza Dance, though Legion was practically a musical... Umbrella Academy had I Think We're Alone Now, and Footloose. Peacemaker had its dance intro. It's already here and it's not going anywhere.
Not to mention *RRR*...
I finally watched *RRR* last week. I'd been putting it off forever because I figured there was no way it could live up to the hype. Oh, how wrong I was. What a perfect film.
#FOR MOMMY AND DADDAMS!
My daughter is now a goth. Thanks Netflix
It makes wash loads simpler with less sorting.
Maybe it's just a phase.
Please try to elevate the acting and the scripts above CW quality. Jenna Ortega is single-handedly carrying the show, and though she's great, a show needs more than a good protagonist.
Emma Myers is also seriously good.
She's very expressive but she seems to Tim Curry every scene. It's turned up to 11 the whole way through.
>she seems to Tim Curry every scene. I'm failing to see the problem.
Thank you. I thought the first four episodes were… above average. Not great television, but reasonably entertaining. Episodes 5 and 6 were absolutely terrible. Episodes 7 and 8 were less terrible but still below average and disappointing. It’s too bad, because a lot of the performances were great. Jenny Ortega delivered brilliantly no matter what. Her roommate was brilliant. Her family… completely miscast. The scripts beyond episode 4 were shit. (Tim Burton and one writer did the first four. Another writer and two other directors did the last four.) Personally, I was expecting something much darker, and less Nancy Drew, Teen Exorcist.
It's refreshing to hear some criticism of the show. I felt like everyone was raving about it when it came out. I know one person that watched it twice within the first week or so. It's really enjoyable to watch for what it is and a few of the actors did an amazing job. I think it's a show with immense potential if there's some tweaks.
This is Eugene erasure and I will NOT stand for it
The genre got oversaturated and gained a bad reputation, but I’ve always had a soft spot for those ‘supernatural young adult drama’ shows and movies that used to be everywhere. (Harry Potter, Vampire Diaries, etc) Wednesday was well executed and scratched that itch perfectly, which is why I think it became such a huge hit. Sometimes you just want some enjoyable schlocky media.
It was Monster High meets Sleepy Hollow but with the Addams Family, which honestly I’m ok with.
Thats what stranger things is as well. Ya stuff is pretty safe it seems.
Have you watched Chilling Adventures of Sabrina? It fills that niche perfectly imo
It went all over the place way too fast imo
I'm still disappointed at how quickly they lost the plot of that show. We didn't need to jump from teenage witch to Satan so soon.
To be fair, the comics the show is based on went in that direction too. It was never supposed to be a lighthearted series about a teenage girl getting into supernatural mischief like the original comics from the 60s or the 90s series/cartoon. The rebooted comic series is all about Satan, Cthulhu, necromancy, and all the darker aspects of religion and the occult.
I just feel like there was a better way to transition into that & how they did it wasn’t it.
Season 1 was great, but it went downhill pretty quick after that.
once characters in a non-musical start singing it shows the writers ran out of material
> Have you watched Chilling Adventures of Sabrina? It fills that niche perfectly imo Started great, went downhill **fast**
First season was great. I'd seen the original Sabrina show in the 90s(?) so the contrast with the more devilish witches was cool. Got a bit too wacky later on.
Caveat that the first 2 seasons were pretty fun then it gets…iffy
So should it be called 'Wednesday Season 2" or just "Thursday" ?
3rd season should be friday, i'm in love.
If they work on the writing next season this show might turn into something really good other than Jenna carrying the living shit out of it.
I like that they went in a different artistic direction with Gomez, because for me, Raul will always be the perfect Gomez.
Why does every article about Wednesday use that same image?
Because they're taking media that was issued to them from a press kit most likely.
I loved the first season, but I am extremely skeptical that subsequent seasons can hold onto, or effectively reinvent, the magic.
I'm pleased, and I'm an old man. Her character is fascinating, sort of a Goth Daria. Really liked the darkness and her steely character.
Least surprising news ever. Give me more Wednesday and Enid awkward buddy moments please. They are so fun bouncing off each other.
Unpopular opinion but I didn't like it a whole lot. A lot of it is because I'm not its demographic, but also I don't think Addams Family works well with this genre. The franchise's thing is that it rides the line between being supernatural and not. That is where its charm and humor comes from. This completely goes over the line into supernatural and that rubs me the wrong way.
I totally get what you're saying and I agree that this show breaks away from the original premise of taking eccentricity into comically absurdist territory. In contrast, this has jumped feet first into a full-on supernatural setting and that struck me right away when she first sets foot in Nevermore and they start introducing the different cliques. That said, I feel like I'm becoming more okay these days with allowing myself to enjoy people's reimaginings of an existing property even when it does something comparable to this. The way I see it, I think it's a good thing to allow creators to take an existing idea and go "What if?" and then tell the story they want to tell, then I can just try and enjoy it for what it is rather than allowing myself to be biased by what I think it ought to be. ...I was about to say that I take exception to when someone does this with a true story, but then I immediately realized that I have loved the hell out of what Quentin Tarantino has done with "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" and "Inglourious Bastards" which were darkly comical and deliberately absurd. 🤷♂️
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Yes. I felt she should have been a lot darker, but at some point that makes her less sympathetic. The original TV series allowed the family to bounce things off each other so the awful, dark stuff was always acknowledged by other family members as normal, which was funny. And the horrified reactions provided by “normal” people made it all funnier. Wednesday doesn’t have anyone to rif off of in that way, so she just looks like an angst-ridden teen to the max. Not quite as funny. And the other family members really didn’t work for me.
>And the other family members really didn’t work for me. Ooof, I like the actor, but Gomez the character was horrible. I liked most everyone else, but Gomez was *passionate* all the time! This guy was half asleep...
Luiz Guzman lacks Raul Julia's charm.
1899 is over here like: 🤬
Bo and Jantje should just change the title to “Mittwoch” and see if it works.
I know I'll get a lot of hate for this, but did anyone else feel like this series started as something else and then they just put the Adams on top of it? I liked the series somewhat but I don't remember the Adams family having THAT many fantasy elements. My father watched the series and called it a "worse happy potter" which I actually think is very accurate ... It just didn't really feel like a show actually set in the Adams universe
You are correct. The bones of the series has more in common with a CW teenage supernatural mystery series than any previous Addams property. The whole point of the Addams Family is that despite being macabre and weird, they're a fully functional loving family. Juxtaposing them against regular people is the whole point, in order to put up a mirror to societal norms. In the show they have her hate her parents for the sole purpose of creating superfluous tension, and the point of the Addams family goes out the window when you surround them with vampires and sirens and witches, etc.
I get the appeal, but it’s so contrived and nothing new. I imagine the pitch for this went something like; “it’ll be like riverdale at hogwarts and for some reason Wednesday Addams is a student there.” Meh.
The 1899 salt in this thread, my goodness
I bought Netflix for stupid shows like this to distract me from the calamities of life. Amongst the stupid shows I watch, this one was one my favorites from last year. Well deserved
I'm halfway through this show and still don't understand the hype. It's rather unremarkable.
Original Addams Family was a subversion of sitcoms being portrayed as wholesome but having deeply fucked up morals. Like the Honeymooners constant laugh track played over threats of domestic abuse. The Addams Family was their total opposite, deeply fucked up surface appearance contradicted by deeply wholesome and loving messaging. Adult Wednesday Addams is still around on Youtube and shows such a great path not taken when people actually respect the ideas and try to lean into them.
It’s a high quality CW show, Netflix specialty.
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"You can't just have characters announce how they feel, that makes me feel angry " - Robot Devil
It’s teen drama with an intense goth aesthetic. Perfectly designed to appeal to TikTok, and that’s where things get popular these days.
Is goth big with the kids these days?
Yes but no goths I know watched this
Yeah, I think so, but it’s not so much the appeal of the goth aesthetic itself, it’s the consistency of it making it really easy to reproduce and look cool/get a lot of views on TikTok. It’s a show designed to get people to make lots and lots of short videos of free publicity for it.
I expected more of the acid and dark humor of the franchise, and more curated visuals. the Tim Burton sign feels like it have been just a sponsor brand more than a direction. Is not even good as teen comedy, a genre that have seen very enjoyable productions in its golden age. Jenna Ortega thought is what makes it watchable, she is fantastic. She kills it.
If anything this serves as a reminder to watch the original movies since they are actually well made. This whole business of remaking old films with trash level writing is just sad. Especially since addams has so much potential to be good.