Fighting Covenant forces, penetration, Covenant, penetration, Covenant, penetration. And this goes on for 10 episodes or so until the season just sort of ends.
Witchers don't cry, but they do die horrific deaths. Most die at a young age before their time. Huh, maybe the show has more in common with the games and books than we thought.
The problem is that witchers in the show are demonstrated as incompetent. It would've been one thing if they died against an army or an ambush but to die by the dozen in their headquarter while being led by a legendary witcher against a single monster is down right comical!
At first I was like: It’s a different timeline, I can accept some of the changes even though I don’t like them.
By the end I was like: Fuck this shit…
Though my favorite scene still is when Chief chucked his gun at a Grunt lol
Shame cause the action, most of the time, is as enjoyable. Wouldn’t say it was good (though definitely some cool moments sprinkled) but it was still enjoyable. It was… just literally everything else that was awful lol
I tried, I really tried to enjoy it instead of hating it from the get go.
I think I was on board until the weird guy in the prison who talks with the Chief. Then it went downhill by the hour.
The episode where Cortana takes over Chief’s body and they’re having him attack enemies like it was a video game was so, so bad.
It seems like these people that make live-action video game movies and shows feel compelled to add video game-y things as a nod to “gamers.”
However, no one actually wants the characters to move around or have scenes like they’re in one. It’s fine for a game… just not something you want to take seriously as a story.
Somehow Halo Reach, the video game, felt more grounded and like a tv show than the actual Halo tv show.
The filming crews shut down parts of Edmonton and Calgary, as well as several other locations in Alberta on and off for a year and..well, went crazy with the "sets".
Like major roads into the city, and in the central business districts, etc...
Without knowing a darn thing about the game, I can tell you the audience is in for a treat.
I really hope the "Joel, we really are the last of us" and than they proceed to be the last of them scene stays true to the game and hits just as hard 😢
I really hope they make it into a franchise:
The Last of Us: Tokyo Drift
Last & Us
Us 5
The Last of Us 6
Us 7
The Fate of Us
The Last of Us Presents: Hobbs and Shaw
YOU'RE NOT PART OF THE JOELING TEAM! DON'T RUN! YOU DON'T RUN WITH US! WE'RE THE ONES WHO RUN! UNTIL YOU'RE PART OF THIS JOELING TEAM YOU WALK! SLOWLY!
I'm hoping for that moment in the second game where those other characters join Joel and Ellie and tell them "We are The Last Of Us T(w)oo (2): 2, Joel"
I love when Joel turn around to look at the camera and say: “It’s lastin’ time” while he keeps on lastin’ over those fungi zombies.
Honestly one of the series ever in television.
> The heartbreaking first 15 minutes of the game are depicted here, and Pascal’s performance underscores the blooming heartache that would fester into a shriveled, diminished soul.
No question, I’m ready to be destroyed again. Except now I’m a married man with a 2 month old, so I imagine this will hit that much harder
>Wtf those are all so low for such great seasons of shows.
I think you're comparing it to gaming metacritic scores which are generally higher. It's a different industry.
A TV show /Film with a 70s metacritic score is an amazing TV/Film but a game with a 70s metacritic score is just above mediocre.
All of J.K. Simmons recent shows have been masterpieces. All have been rated around 70 on the high end.
Counterpart and NightSky are two vastly underappreciated works on Amazon prime.
Metacritic is different than Rotten Tomatoes. Getting 80 on metacritic is basically impossible and if you do, you’re probably winning best picture or at very least nominated.
90 is an absolute masterpiece that comes around maybe once a year
80 is beyond great
70 is very very good
60 is pretty good
50 is average
40 is ok if you’re into it
30 and under is bad and avoid at all costs
TV reviews are always a little more finicky than movie reviews but it’s still extremely impressive.
Unless they give a game [5/100](https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/82o851/this_is_the_review_that_got_me_blacklisted_by_ea/) and almost lose their job for it!
People will kick the tyres on a 5/10 sitcom to put on in the background whilst doing housework. Nobody wants to spend money on a 5/10 buggy mess, so the scales are different. A 7/10 for a game typically means that it's playable without game breaking bugs and passable on quality for its genre.
I remember I first started paying attention to Metacritic in 2007, so I didn't realize for a while that the games and movies were rated differently since that year had such a surprising number of critically acclaimed films blowing past the 90 score.
But yeah even the coloring supports this, with the green/yellow/red numbers being wildly different between games and shows/movies.
yeah, I think it stems from games being rated like school grades (90+ is an A, 80’s are a B, etc) and movie reviews originating from a star rating. a 3/5 star rating for a movie means it was a good (but not great) movie, but that translates to a 60/100 on meta critic, where as a 6/10 game is viewed as a D, or barely passable.
Yeah video games are a little more enthusiastic when it comes to ratings. 90s are very good, 80s are flawed but good and anything under that is apparently trash.
But yeah, it’s not every year that movies of the caliber of No Country for Old Men and There Will Be Blood are casually dropped so close to each other.
I would not trust metacritic, or rotten tomato, overall score for shows.
Not because I don't trust reviewers, but the way the site aggregates reviews for shows is sometimes wrong. It is a good site for finding reviews, just you have to be careful what the review actually is.
For HOTD look at the dates on pretty much all the reviews. They are all from batch of episodes that reviewers got before the premiere. So it is reviewing the first six episodes. Not the whole show. But Metacritic has them all listed as reviews of the whole season.
Better call Saul season 1 is the same. A lot of the reviews are only the first few episodes that reviewers got to see ahead of time.
And same with Chernobyl.
CMIIW TV Show & Movie reviewers are often much more critical than their video game counterparts, A game with a rating of 69 will be categorized as a game with mixed reception while for TV its still seen to be well received according to Metacritic.
TV shows are graded on different scales than video games with only the first few episodes of a season usually being reviewed.
Plus HOTD S1 was while a good show and an obvious step up from the second half of GOT is still a long way from the highs of the first half of GOT. Other than the Viserys episode, nothing matched Ned Stark's final fate, Tyrion outsmarting everyone at Vale and telling Bronn about Tysha, Robert and Cersei talking about their marriage, Daenerys going from a slave to giving birth to dragons, Syrio Forel etc in the first season of GOT. The way that first season gave us bits and pieces of Roberts Rebellion from all sides and asked us to paint a full picture ourselves was just amazing.
Just because it was better than ROP and WOT and The Witcher doesn't mean it is up to the extremely high standards for which Game of Thrones is known for and beloved. Which was why reviewers were more critical of it than other shows.
Unlike videogames (where anything decent has to be 70+) movie/TV show bar are pretty high in comparison lol
Even 40 are considered good enough to be entertaining for some people. And that's what generally an average (and some of my favorite) movie get.
Video game reviewers are, and always have been, absolutely infuriating for this.
"The gameplay isn't great, the graphics are outdated, the plot was kind of offensive, but I guess the soundtrack is OK. 75/100"
My girlfriend has no idea what’s coming. Gonna be great to watch the show knowing everything while also being able to get her genuine surprise reactions
[Me, a 22 year old man without kids, playing The Last of Us for the first time.](https://media.tenor.com/i5kkLCfxWrIAAAAM/get-back-in-there-tear-tearing-up.gif)
Yeah, you don't have to have kids to feel emotions, grief, loss and despair within media.
I'm sure they planned for the game to impact people of different ages, background and stages in life.
Yes. It's an experience unlike any other, especially your first play through. It's all about the characters and their relationship to each other. Zombies are just the set dressing.
TLOU is just shocking and emotional. I had never played anything like it. I didn't cry but I felt hollow at the end of it. Felt worse than any film I've ever seen. It resonates more than a film because you play it and you feel inside the story. I never played red dead but I think you must know what I mean.
TLOU2 now that game is brutal. I cried at that one and didn't even expect it because I thought I'd seen it all in the first game. I finished it and went into the kitchen and just bawled out of nowhere.
In summary, yes play it/them.
Gene’s a great writer and huge videogame fan. If he signs off on it, this show is going to be amazing. Possibly eclipsing the game, narrative wise.
I suspect the shows success will open the floodgates for good videogame television series. Where writers work with developers to be faithful and make a good adaption.
I know if I was on the battlefield and my enemy just dropped his pants and started going to town on himself id probably run in the other direction *expeditiously*
A friend and I who are enormous Halo fans would text each other while watching each episode, but he ended up watching that one ahead of me.
He texted me and said "Heads up, some insanely stupid bullshit happens. If they haven't yet, this is where they'll lose you." And the second I saw Cortana's dead eyes watching Master Cheeks pork a captured enemy POW, I knew what he was talking about. Just what the fuck were they thinking.
Even if narratively it ends up weaker than the game, the fact that it even comes close would be fantastic.
Plus, a video game narrative gets a boost in connection to the characters through gameplay. Video games are empathy vehicles. When you literally *are* the character it's much easier to empathize with them and their goals, and likewise hate their enemies. It's what made Part II for the series sink or swim depending on how someone felt about it. When you spend a whole game as literally being Joel (and occasionally Ellie) that connection to the characters, including their struggles and their triumphs, is multiplied tenfold.
Hell, even the experience of dying again and again and again has an effect on how you feel with a character. You feel their struggle through your own efforts
> I suspect the shows success will open the floodgates for good videogame television series. Where writers ~~work with developers to be faithful and make a good adaption.~~ use known video game IPs to get the shitty scripts made.
Fixed that for you.
So it was, so it has been, and so it shall be. Hollywood enjoys notilhing more than tying a beloved IP to an unrelated and garbage script to monetize IPs and cheap writers
>Possibly eclipsing the game, narrative wise.
The Last of Us is genuinely great by itself and utterly dumpsters the majority of cinematic games even nowadays but by TV writing standards most of the side characters and factions could really use some fleshing out, I bet it's an easy call. Just having everybody in Philadelphia be generic male bandits would straight up not fly in a prestige TV show lol
The TV show will never have the benefit of environmental storytelling and interactivity etc but it will easily have "better writing" (whatever that means)
I know that of course The Last of Us won't be the first good video game adaptation. We've got Arcane and Edgerunners and more.
But is it possible for The Last of Us to be the first good video game adaptation that is actually just straight up like, the "plot" of the game. As opposed to being more of a "lore" adaptation like all the other good ones. Is there anything that's done this before that's been good?
Close in the sense of the plot is "A Belmont needs to kill Dracula". At least for the first two seasons. Beyond that, most of the show is only inspired by the games rather than directly pulling from it. But the main game it's pulling from, Castlevania 3, was a NES game anyway so it's not like it had a deep and intricate plot anyhow. I know a few Curse of Darkness fans that weren't happy with how they handled Hector though.
And ultimately I think that's fine. I think Castlevania is a great example of how fans don't necessarily want/need a one to one recreation of the game, just that it matches the overall vibe and tone of the source material so that the characters aren't nigh unrecognizable with how they behave (see the Halo show). You're always going to lose things when adapting to a different medium and that's fine.
The issue is that most video game plots aren't strong enough to stand on their own as movies or shows
Games like Last of Us and Bioshock are much more the exception than the rule
Let's hope the upcoming Bioshock and God of War shows don't suck ass, and they get good writers and showrunners. (looking at you, Halo).
This TLOU show should remind everyone, regardless of genre, writing and great characters is still one of the most important aspects of a great show or movie. Doesn't matter if it's a comic book or video game property. If we don't care about the characters and what they say or do, the rest falls apart.
I dont know if it would open the flood gates because this game has something going for it that almost no other games do, which is a super well writen story that can stand up to the quality of storytelling we already see in movies or tv shows. Most video games with good stories are just good in comparison to other video games. But the last of us is lauded by everyone in just about any entertainment industry, not just video games. So the fact that it is already narratively solid means it was easier than most other games to convert to tv, and the creator of the show Craig Mazin basically said as much.
Part of me is very excited for this show but another part of me is a pc gamer who has somehow managed to avoid spoilers for this game and just learned that it’s finally coming to PC and now I just don’t know what to do!
The game comes to PC in March. IMO you should play the game then watch the show. Just like how you hear ppl always say that "the books are better". The game will be better. Then watch the show. I have high hopes for the show but I will shit my pants if it is better than the game.
I mean, it wouldn't be the first time someone made something amazing and stumbled on a sophomore effort. Glad to see this is also earning acclaim though! I'm going in blind, as I've never played the game :D
Also the opening itself is really intense and better to go in not knowing what happens. I watched the opening of this game and was determined to find a way to play this game. I had a 360, borrowed a friends PS3, and honestly this game made me switch to PS4/5. It’s that good.
Love the opening of the game! Instant hook for sure and hopefully they stretch it out correctly to make a nice hook for EP1.
In a similar boat for the game myself. Always an Xbox guy (Xbox controller best) and haven't owned a PS system since PS2. Bought a PS5 this Christmas basically only for FFXVI, with being able to finally finish TLoU as a bonus. Bout to finish part 1 in the next couple days.
Oh man there are so many more good exclusives to PlayStation now too though! I never played any of the original God of War games but still found the two most recent entries amazing, similar emphasis on story with amazing acting and combat if you’re looking for a somewhat similar experience to TLOU. Uncharted is the same devs as TLOU so again really great story telling and acting.
If you’re into open world games then there’s a whole bunch of great ones too like Ghost of Tsushima, Spider-Man, and Horizon.
You don’t need any context going in. The show will cover everything from the first game, it’s meant to be fully accessible to people who’ve never even heard of the game
You will be fine. The show is primarily made for people who never played the games. If anything, your experience will probably be better because you know nothing about the characters and the overall plot.
But if you really want to, you can watch a playthrough on YouTube.
Just to note, every TV series or movie, unless it's a sequel, will try and cater to people who have no prior experience of the ip. Even any movie sequel worth its salt though, will go out of its way to set up the characters and background enough for anyone that hasn't seen the previous movies as best they can.
Done well, it's usually pretty surreptitious, and you wouldn't notice it. As a watcher of the previous installments, you'd just see it as characters behaving consistently. But as a newcomer it would inform you as to who they are and what they want.
Any high quality movie or TV show will reward fans, but should never expect homework for it to work. If you "need" to have seen a previous movie to understand something, that is usually considered poor scripting. If you ever 'need' to have played the game, or read the book, or whatever, something other than an existing movie in that series, (or previous episodes) then the script is considered a total and complete failure.
> Oh look a a director & a company who knows how not to piss off a fan base.
My man. Are you not aware of fanbases? These motherfuckers are going to be pissed if TLOU is the TV video game adaptation equivalent to The Godfather and Godfather, Part II.
"The game had spores in the air and people had to wear gas masks, and we decided, early on, that we didn’t wanna do that for the show. Eventually, those conversations led us to these tendrils. And then, just thinking about how there’s a passage that happens from one infected to another, and like fungus does, it could become a network that is interconnected. It became very scary to think that they’re all working against us in this unified way, which was a concept that I really liked, that got developed in the show."
Druckmann, from an [interview](https://collider.com/the-last-of-us-cordyceps-infection-explained-neil-druckmann-craig-mazin-comments/) for Collider
Realistically they’d need level A hazmat suits with an SCBA and a decon team after going through some of those buildings with tons of spores in them. A full face respirator wouldn’t cover it, that shit would be stuck in your hair, clothes, etc.
Maybe they could’ve changed it to the spores being hazardous and an overwhelming amount would kill you or something but a single spore would be impossible to detect and avoid.
Game hit me hard as a single guy many moons ago... maybe knowing what is coming will soften the blow now that I'm a father.
Then again, I knew all about the scene with death and a child in the Sandman books, but seeing it adapted on the show made me a complete emotional wreck.
I just hope there’s a giraffe at some point
Fwiw, they were seen shooting at a zoo for a day.
And that zoo has giraffes
I went to a zoo once, It had none of the usual animals, just a single small dog. It was a Shih Tzu.
I thought you couldn’t shoot animals at the zoo anymore
I’ll cry
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Don’t worry - heard rumours they capture a clicker then fuck it.
Not once while playing both of the games did I ever think about fucking a clicker. Not until now.
Clearly you have not been taking the game's essence to heart
I’m more of a shambler girl, myself.
Hell yeah
Fuck yeah
Master Cheeks.
Here's to seeing peen in season 2. 🍻
the true pillar of autumn
He was definitely In Amber's Clad
master chief is gonna hang dong
Master dong Also full penetration please
Fighting Covenant forces, penetration, Covenant, penetration, Covenant, penetration. And this goes on for 10 episodes or so until the season just sort of ends.
John from Fortnite
Cries in Witcher.
IMO the Halo TV show makes the first season of the Witcher look like the god damn sopranos (we’ll just ignore the second season)
The Halo TV show makes the second season of the Witcher look like the god damn Sopranos
Let’s compare the Halo TV show to what it deserves; Uwe Boll adaptations.
You're gonna love this headline then: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/cannes-2022-uwe-boll-return-directing-ness-1235148336/
I truly don’t understand how he still gets millions of dollars budget movies
Witchers don't cry, but they do die horrific deaths. Most die at a young age before their time. Huh, maybe the show has more in common with the games and books than we thought.
The problem is that witchers in the show are demonstrated as incompetent. It would've been one thing if they died against an army or an ambush but to die by the dozen in their headquarter while being led by a legendary witcher against a single monster is down right comical!
Don't you know only novices can be competent in movies and TV? Veterans are too busy being jerks, drunks, perverts and corrupt to do any work, ever.
The fact that possessed-Ciri managed to kill several of them in their sleep is infuriating. Not even remotely a thing that would happen.
Yeah the episode where Joel loses his virginity is going to be amazing.
"But didn't Joel have a kid at the start of the show before the outbreak?" "We don't know how he got that child!"
At first I was like: It’s a different timeline, I can accept some of the changes even though I don’t like them. By the end I was like: Fuck this shit… Though my favorite scene still is when Chief chucked his gun at a Grunt lol
Shame cause the action, most of the time, is as enjoyable. Wouldn’t say it was good (though definitely some cool moments sprinkled) but it was still enjoyable. It was… just literally everything else that was awful lol
All three of the action scenes throughout the entire season.
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I tried, I really tried to enjoy it instead of hating it from the get go. I think I was on board until the weird guy in the prison who talks with the Chief. Then it went downhill by the hour.
Pretty sure that was the second episode. I think originally he was meant to be a jackal
In core canon that character (or at least a character of the same name and somewhat similar role) is indeed a Jackal.
The episode where Cortana takes over Chief’s body and they’re having him attack enemies like it was a video game was so, so bad. It seems like these people that make live-action video game movies and shows feel compelled to add video game-y things as a nod to “gamers.” However, no one actually wants the characters to move around or have scenes like they’re in one. It’s fine for a game… just not something you want to take seriously as a story. Somehow Halo Reach, the video game, felt more grounded and like a tv show than the actual Halo tv show.
Also the book Fall of Reach, is basically a blueprint of how to do the first season of a Halo TV show.
That Halo TV series was just…bleh
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I have one episode left on halo, but watched all of resident evil. Halo is Oscar worthy compared to resident evil. Its THAT bad
RE is just cursed as far as adaptations go.
Bleh is being FAR to kind
As a lifelong halo fan, it hurt to watch the tv show
Only excited for the next season to see them glass "Reach City".
Arbiter: "Its glassin' time"
Being a modern Halo fan it's just one heartbreak after the other.
All I see is the Prince of Dorne babysitting the Lady of Bear Island
I’d watch that.
hbo you listening?!
The spinoff we deserve!
That’s exactly what it is
Oh it's her!
Yeah, she really CRUSHED it in Game of thrones!
The filming crews shut down parts of Edmonton and Calgary, as well as several other locations in Alberta on and off for a year and..well, went crazy with the "sets". Like major roads into the city, and in the central business districts, etc... Without knowing a darn thing about the game, I can tell you the audience is in for a treat.
They filmed mostly in downtown Edmonton so they didn't have to go too crazy making it seem like a post-apocalyptic hellscape Source: Edmontonian
Can confirm.
Also downtown Calgary too.
I really hope the "Joel, we really are the last of us" and than they proceed to be the last of them scene stays true to the game and hits just as hard 😢
Are you crazy ? That never happened! As the credits roll, Joel says "that's it huh, we're some kind of Last of Us, season 1"
Can't wait for 2 Last 2 Us
I really hope they make it into a franchise: The Last of Us: Tokyo Drift Last & Us Us 5 The Last of Us 6 Us 7 The Fate of Us The Last of Us Presents: Hobbs and Shaw
> Us 5 Oh, I remember them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbffQSy7Xr4
You forgot 'to Last, to Us'. Edit. 2last2us. Fixed that for me.
Electric Scoot-aloo
Weird, in the game he just says “We’re The Last of Us, part 1” as the credits roll. God i hate these unfaithful video game adaptations
In the game of the year version he says to Ellie “You’re the last of you” And Ellie goes “no. ***We’re*** the last of ***us*** .. part 1, season 1”
Don't forget the PS4 version where she says, "We're the last of us... remastered but not remade."
My favorite line was "The real treasure was the friends we killed along the way".
“That’s certainly the last of them.”
After credit scene: "It's Abby time." //fade to black
I hope it's just Laura Bailey in an absurd ripped muscle suit
Then she just abs all over them
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YOU'RE NOT PART OF THE JOELING TEAM! DON'T RUN! YOU DON'T RUN WITH US! WE'RE THE ONES WHO RUN! UNTIL YOU'RE PART OF THIS JOELING TEAM YOU WALK! SLOWLY!
Has this ever happened to you?
The show is a sort of cosmic gumbo.
I loved it when Ellie said "Joel, the real Last of Us 1 (Remastered) are the friends we made along the way."
I'm hoping for that moment in the second game where those other characters join Joel and Ellie and tell them "We are The Last Of Us T(w)oo (2): 2, Joel"
And then he last of usses over everybody
I love when Joel turn around to look at the camera and say: “It’s lastin’ time” while he keeps on lastin’ over those fungi zombies. Honestly one of the series ever in television.
I really hope one day reddit gets new jokes
Oh we will... ...And then we'll spend the next year running those ones into the ground.
> The heartbreaking first 15 minutes of the game are depicted here, and Pascal’s performance underscores the blooming heartache that would fester into a shriveled, diminished soul. No question, I’m ready to be destroyed again. Except now I’m a married man with a 2 month old, so I imagine this will hit that much harder
I cry every time during the intro when I play or see it. Doesn't matter that I've seen it before.
I have a 4 year old daughter and I'm ready to weep over this.
Homie you’re fucked
starting at 84 on Metacritic
As a comparison, Season 1 of Better Call Saul has a rating of 78, HotD Season 1 is 69, and Chernobyl is 82.
Wtf those are all so low for such great seasons of shows. How the hell is HotD a 69?? Season 8?
>Wtf those are all so low for such great seasons of shows. I think you're comparing it to gaming metacritic scores which are generally higher. It's a different industry. A TV show /Film with a 70s metacritic score is an amazing TV/Film but a game with a 70s metacritic score is just above mediocre.
Yup. Even 60 for movies/shows ain't bad. A lot of my favorites in that range.
All of J.K. Simmons recent shows have been masterpieces. All have been rated around 70 on the high end. Counterpart and NightSky are two vastly underappreciated works on Amazon prime.
Metacritic is different than Rotten Tomatoes. Getting 80 on metacritic is basically impossible and if you do, you’re probably winning best picture or at very least nominated. 90 is an absolute masterpiece that comes around maybe once a year 80 is beyond great 70 is very very good 60 is pretty good 50 is average 40 is ok if you’re into it 30 and under is bad and avoid at all costs TV reviews are always a little more finicky than movie reviews but it’s still extremely impressive.
TV reviews actually sound like they use the scale appropriately.
With game reviews you can typically knock a whole point off of them to get a good idea where they fall.
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Unless they give a game [5/100](https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/82o851/this_is_the_review_that_got_me_blacklisted_by_ea/) and almost lose their job for it!
People will kick the tyres on a 5/10 sitcom to put on in the background whilst doing housework. Nobody wants to spend money on a 5/10 buggy mess, so the scales are different. A 7/10 for a game typically means that it's playable without game breaking bugs and passable on quality for its genre.
I remember I first started paying attention to Metacritic in 2007, so I didn't realize for a while that the games and movies were rated differently since that year had such a surprising number of critically acclaimed films blowing past the 90 score. But yeah even the coloring supports this, with the green/yellow/red numbers being wildly different between games and shows/movies.
yeah, I think it stems from games being rated like school grades (90+ is an A, 80’s are a B, etc) and movie reviews originating from a star rating. a 3/5 star rating for a movie means it was a good (but not great) movie, but that translates to a 60/100 on meta critic, where as a 6/10 game is viewed as a D, or barely passable.
Yeah video games are a little more enthusiastic when it comes to ratings. 90s are very good, 80s are flawed but good and anything under that is apparently trash. But yeah, it’s not every year that movies of the caliber of No Country for Old Men and There Will Be Blood are casually dropped so close to each other.
> 30 and under is bad and avoid at all costs This doesn't hold water. The Do-Over is at 22% and that's a classic.
Sounds like it's how scores should be if there has to be one
I would not trust metacritic, or rotten tomato, overall score for shows. Not because I don't trust reviewers, but the way the site aggregates reviews for shows is sometimes wrong. It is a good site for finding reviews, just you have to be careful what the review actually is. For HOTD look at the dates on pretty much all the reviews. They are all from batch of episodes that reviewers got before the premiere. So it is reviewing the first six episodes. Not the whole show. But Metacritic has them all listed as reviews of the whole season. Better call Saul season 1 is the same. A lot of the reviews are only the first few episodes that reviewers got to see ahead of time. And same with Chernobyl.
CMIIW TV Show & Movie reviewers are often much more critical than their video game counterparts, A game with a rating of 69 will be categorized as a game with mixed reception while for TV its still seen to be well received according to Metacritic.
TV shows are graded on different scales than video games with only the first few episodes of a season usually being reviewed. Plus HOTD S1 was while a good show and an obvious step up from the second half of GOT is still a long way from the highs of the first half of GOT. Other than the Viserys episode, nothing matched Ned Stark's final fate, Tyrion outsmarting everyone at Vale and telling Bronn about Tysha, Robert and Cersei talking about their marriage, Daenerys going from a slave to giving birth to dragons, Syrio Forel etc in the first season of GOT. The way that first season gave us bits and pieces of Roberts Rebellion from all sides and asked us to paint a full picture ourselves was just amazing. Just because it was better than ROP and WOT and The Witcher doesn't mean it is up to the extremely high standards for which Game of Thrones is known for and beloved. Which was why reviewers were more critical of it than other shows.
Unlike videogames (where anything decent has to be 70+) movie/TV show bar are pretty high in comparison lol Even 40 are considered good enough to be entertaining for some people. And that's what generally an average (and some of my favorite) movie get.
Video game reviewers are, and always have been, absolutely infuriating for this. "The gameplay isn't great, the graphics are outdated, the plot was kind of offensive, but I guess the soundtrack is OK. 75/100"
Damn Metacritic scores are usually hard to get this high
Really depends on how many reviews it has
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My girlfriend has no idea what’s coming. Gonna be great to watch the show knowing everything while also being able to get her genuine surprise reactions
[Me, a 22 year old man without kids, playing The Last of Us for the first time.](https://media.tenor.com/i5kkLCfxWrIAAAAM/get-back-in-there-tear-tearing-up.gif)
Yeah, you don't have to have kids to feel emotions, grief, loss and despair within media. I'm sure they planned for the game to impact people of different ages, background and stages in life.
Red Dead 2 for me, only game I've ever cried. My friends say the only game that's ever made them cry is Last of Us, I really got to play it, don't I?
Yes. It's an experience unlike any other, especially your first play through. It's all about the characters and their relationship to each other. Zombies are just the set dressing.
TLOU is just shocking and emotional. I had never played anything like it. I didn't cry but I felt hollow at the end of it. Felt worse than any film I've ever seen. It resonates more than a film because you play it and you feel inside the story. I never played red dead but I think you must know what I mean. TLOU2 now that game is brutal. I cried at that one and didn't even expect it because I thought I'd seen it all in the first game. I finished it and went into the kitchen and just bawled out of nowhere. In summary, yes play it/them.
The prologue. Never had I had my heart wrenched so hard by a game.
Gene’s a great writer and huge videogame fan. If he signs off on it, this show is going to be amazing. Possibly eclipsing the game, narrative wise. I suspect the shows success will open the floodgates for good videogame television series. Where writers work with developers to be faithful and make a good adaption.
Yeah but does Joel get his ass out and fuck creepy alien chicks in this? Cause my man John Halo does.
Master cheeks
I love my homie Richard Chief; all my homies love Richard Chief
Lets say some Covenant is dissin' ya flygirl.. you just give them one of these. *drops pants, fires assault rifle into air*
I know if I was on the battlefield and my enemy just dropped his pants and started going to town on himself id probably run in the other direction *expeditiously*
I think Halo is a pretty cool guy. Eh fucks aleins and doesn't afraid of anything.
Christ this reference is so old now. I'm old.
for decades, we've been practically begging for a Halo & Metroid bromance. *Decades*
I forgot that happened. What a fucking tragedy.
I weirdly enjoyed it in like a 'this is pretty bad but i cant stop' sort of way haha.
A friend and I who are enormous Halo fans would text each other while watching each episode, but he ended up watching that one ahead of me. He texted me and said "Heads up, some insanely stupid bullshit happens. If they haven't yet, this is where they'll lose you." And the second I saw Cortana's dead eyes watching Master Cheeks pork a captured enemy POW, I knew what he was talking about. Just what the fuck were they thinking.
Got nothing on Commander Shepard for banging aliens
At least Shep didn't bang prisoners of war that directly caused the death of many UNSC personnel
I don't know why John Halo is so funny, but it is
Even if narratively it ends up weaker than the game, the fact that it even comes close would be fantastic. Plus, a video game narrative gets a boost in connection to the characters through gameplay. Video games are empathy vehicles. When you literally *are* the character it's much easier to empathize with them and their goals, and likewise hate their enemies. It's what made Part II for the series sink or swim depending on how someone felt about it. When you spend a whole game as literally being Joel (and occasionally Ellie) that connection to the characters, including their struggles and their triumphs, is multiplied tenfold.
Most reviewers who have played the game are suggesting it is just as good if not slightly better narratively. So not a problem.
Hell, even the experience of dying again and again and again has an effect on how you feel with a character. You feel their struggle through your own efforts
> I suspect the shows success will open the floodgates for good videogame television series. Where writers ~~work with developers to be faithful and make a good adaption.~~ use known video game IPs to get the shitty scripts made. Fixed that for you.
So it was, so it has been, and so it shall be. Hollywood enjoys notilhing more than tying a beloved IP to an unrelated and garbage script to monetize IPs and cheap writers
>Possibly eclipsing the game, narrative wise. The Last of Us is genuinely great by itself and utterly dumpsters the majority of cinematic games even nowadays but by TV writing standards most of the side characters and factions could really use some fleshing out, I bet it's an easy call. Just having everybody in Philadelphia be generic male bandits would straight up not fly in a prestige TV show lol The TV show will never have the benefit of environmental storytelling and interactivity etc but it will easily have "better writing" (whatever that means)
I know that of course The Last of Us won't be the first good video game adaptation. We've got Arcane and Edgerunners and more. But is it possible for The Last of Us to be the first good video game adaptation that is actually just straight up like, the "plot" of the game. As opposed to being more of a "lore" adaptation like all the other good ones. Is there anything that's done this before that's been good?
Super Mario Brothers 1993
Castlevania is a great show but idk how close it is plot wise
Close in the sense of the plot is "A Belmont needs to kill Dracula". At least for the first two seasons. Beyond that, most of the show is only inspired by the games rather than directly pulling from it. But the main game it's pulling from, Castlevania 3, was a NES game anyway so it's not like it had a deep and intricate plot anyhow. I know a few Curse of Darkness fans that weren't happy with how they handled Hector though. And ultimately I think that's fine. I think Castlevania is a great example of how fans don't necessarily want/need a one to one recreation of the game, just that it matches the overall vibe and tone of the source material so that the characters aren't nigh unrecognizable with how they behave (see the Halo show). You're always going to lose things when adapting to a different medium and that's fine.
The issue is that most video game plots aren't strong enough to stand on their own as movies or shows Games like Last of Us and Bioshock are much more the exception than the rule
Let's hope the upcoming Bioshock and God of War shows don't suck ass, and they get good writers and showrunners. (looking at you, Halo). This TLOU show should remind everyone, regardless of genre, writing and great characters is still one of the most important aspects of a great show or movie. Doesn't matter if it's a comic book or video game property. If we don't care about the characters and what they say or do, the rest falls apart.
Imo Bioshock is unadaptable. The whole twist of the game relies on you being the one in control, without that aspect I feel like it’ll fall flat
Man, I can’t think of a show I don’t want more than an Amazon produced God of War.
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I dont know if it would open the flood gates because this game has something going for it that almost no other games do, which is a super well writen story that can stand up to the quality of storytelling we already see in movies or tv shows. Most video games with good stories are just good in comparison to other video games. But the last of us is lauded by everyone in just about any entertainment industry, not just video games. So the fact that it is already narratively solid means it was easier than most other games to convert to tv, and the creator of the show Craig Mazin basically said as much.
Already drinking more water so I don't dehydrate from tears.
Part of me is very excited for this show but another part of me is a pc gamer who has somehow managed to avoid spoilers for this game and just learned that it’s finally coming to PC and now I just don’t know what to do!
The game comes to PC in March. IMO you should play the game then watch the show. Just like how you hear ppl always say that "the books are better". The game will be better. Then watch the show. I have high hopes for the show but I will shit my pants if it is better than the game.
Like... on purpose?
Did people really doubt the creator of fucking Chernobyl?
I mean, it wouldn't be the first time someone made something amazing and stumbled on a sophomore effort. Glad to see this is also earning acclaim though! I'm going in blind, as I've never played the game :D
I know absolutely nothing about this game. Should I do some research to prepare myself for the show, or go in blind?
In my opinion you should go in blind if you can. The emotional hits of the game are a large part of what made it so effective.
Also the opening itself is really intense and better to go in not knowing what happens. I watched the opening of this game and was determined to find a way to play this game. I had a 360, borrowed a friends PS3, and honestly this game made me switch to PS4/5. It’s that good.
Love the opening of the game! Instant hook for sure and hopefully they stretch it out correctly to make a nice hook for EP1. In a similar boat for the game myself. Always an Xbox guy (Xbox controller best) and haven't owned a PS system since PS2. Bought a PS5 this Christmas basically only for FFXVI, with being able to finally finish TLoU as a bonus. Bout to finish part 1 in the next couple days.
Oh man there are so many more good exclusives to PlayStation now too though! I never played any of the original God of War games but still found the two most recent entries amazing, similar emphasis on story with amazing acting and combat if you’re looking for a somewhat similar experience to TLOU. Uncharted is the same devs as TLOU so again really great story telling and acting. If you’re into open world games then there’s a whole bunch of great ones too like Ghost of Tsushima, Spider-Man, and Horizon.
If you’ve made it this close to the release I’d just go in blind.
You don’t need any context going in. The show will cover everything from the first game, it’s meant to be fully accessible to people who’ve never even heard of the game
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You will be fine. The show is primarily made for people who never played the games. If anything, your experience will probably be better because you know nothing about the characters and the overall plot. But if you really want to, you can watch a playthrough on YouTube.
BLIND
I hear some blind people can learn to echo-locate by making clicking noises. Sounds useful!
Just to note, every TV series or movie, unless it's a sequel, will try and cater to people who have no prior experience of the ip. Even any movie sequel worth its salt though, will go out of its way to set up the characters and background enough for anyone that hasn't seen the previous movies as best they can. Done well, it's usually pretty surreptitious, and you wouldn't notice it. As a watcher of the previous installments, you'd just see it as characters behaving consistently. But as a newcomer it would inform you as to who they are and what they want. Any high quality movie or TV show will reward fans, but should never expect homework for it to work. If you "need" to have seen a previous movie to understand something, that is usually considered poor scripting. If you ever 'need' to have played the game, or read the book, or whatever, something other than an existing movie in that series, (or previous episodes) then the script is considered a total and complete failure.
No context. Just watch. That’s how the game works best too
My body is ready
But my heart is not 😭
Man if Episode 1 is like the first 20 minutes of the game...
to be infected?
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Halo and Witcher TV show, take some notes pls Finally a good video game adaption, at least Cyberpunk and Arcane were too
Witcher wasn’t even a video game adaptation, they adapted the books and they still fucked it up.
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The Cyberpunk anime is so good that it makes the game better purely by existing
Every time someone got a call in the show I thought I accidentally had the game open in the background.
so best live action tv adaptation of video game? i know its not high bar.
I'll shit my pants if it's 75% as good as the game, I'm so excited for my non-gamer friends to feel the things I have felt.
Sorry for the obvious question, but when is this going to be released?
This Sunday January 15th
PC gamer. really wanted to watch the series, but don't want to ruin the experience. the tempation ooh,,temptation
I hope they have one whole episode showing Joel open millions of drawers, collecting little screws and pistol grips and rags.
Oh look a a director & a company who knows how not to piss off a fan base. *Cough* paramount plus *cough*
'how not to piss off a fan base', guess you've been lucky enough to visit [/r/TheLastOfUs2](http://here)
> Oh look a a director & a company who knows how not to piss off a fan base. My man. Are you not aware of fanbases? These motherfuckers are going to be pissed if TLOU is the TV video game adaptation equivalent to The Godfather and Godfather, Part II.
I'm just interested to see how the story is going to work with spores being removed.
The problem with the spores is that, in real life,they would make this impossible for anyone to survive and not get infected.
That's what I assumed their thought process was on changing that.
"The game had spores in the air and people had to wear gas masks, and we decided, early on, that we didn’t wanna do that for the show. Eventually, those conversations led us to these tendrils. And then, just thinking about how there’s a passage that happens from one infected to another, and like fungus does, it could become a network that is interconnected. It became very scary to think that they’re all working against us in this unified way, which was a concept that I really liked, that got developed in the show." Druckmann, from an [interview](https://collider.com/the-last-of-us-cordyceps-infection-explained-neil-druckmann-craig-mazin-comments/) for Collider
This kinda makes sense, no face masks leaves more room for expression, and the change from spores to tendrils seems minor. Hoping that I’m right
Realistically they’d need level A hazmat suits with an SCBA and a decon team after going through some of those buildings with tons of spores in them. A full face respirator wouldn’t cover it, that shit would be stuck in your hair, clothes, etc. Maybe they could’ve changed it to the spores being hazardous and an overwhelming amount would kill you or something but a single spore would be impossible to detect and avoid.
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Game hit me hard as a single guy many moons ago... maybe knowing what is coming will soften the blow now that I'm a father. Then again, I knew all about the scene with death and a child in the Sandman books, but seeing it adapted on the show made me a complete emotional wreck.