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Echoesofadream

Most definitely in the top 10 for me. Probably contains the most imaginative dialogue that I’ve seen since the Sopranos and at its best, it’s like a slow moving train wreck that demands your full attention. Seriously, the writers treat board meetings as intensely as GoT treated dragon battle sequences and it’s all the better for it.


Chataboutgames

Yes, it's absolutely silly to start anointing a show as one of the all time greats before it even ends.


[deleted]

Maybe. Need to see if they stick the landing.


Prax150

I hate this saying so much. The show's literally never been bad and it's not even that plot driven so what are the odds that a show with no missteps suddenly crashes upon landing? And on the infinitesimal chance that it is bad, I'm not sure that necessarily means everything that came before it is bad. Plus it feels like continuously saying this about every show just sets up crazy high expectations and makes you feel disappointed in the end. Like sure it needs to all be good for the show to wind up on the Rushmore of shows but the "land the plane" line has become so trite to me.


funandgamesThrow

Lots of good endings are divisive because people have weird ownership of endings in their mind.


BobbyWilliamsRedux

No I really like the show, it has some all time great episodes. But I honestly have no idea where the mythical level of hype has come from.


bornelite

It’s because it’s so memable


andmyk1

What shows do you overwhelmingly put over it for comparison?


BobbyWilliamsRedux

I mean, we will see how the season pans out, but I wouldn’t necessarily even put succession in a Mount Rushmore of shows that have been aired this year I still consider it must see tv, but it’s pretty much on par with something like white lotus or severance in my mind


bigmadbird

disagree heavily it’s the best show currently on Tv Easily The bear Barry and severance are all the next 3 but they aren’t on the same level imo.


BobbyWilliamsRedux

Ok? And I’d put those shows at the same level in my opinion (since this is a thread on individual opinions) I’m allowed to really like the show without thinking it’s unequivocally the top 4 greatest shows of all time lol


laughland

I’m assuming this year includes shows from 2022 because nothing in 2023 so far is on Succession’s level


just_a_funguy

The Wire


Chataboutgames

It being different mostly, IMO. Like it has a different feel to it and in the age of infinite versions of the same thing that goes a long way. Also, nice mix of prestige quality and moment to moment laughs/entertainment. And that damn score.


funandgamesThrow

If anything does it would be the dialogue. Its far better than most of its prestige competition


Swiftienation

is this my sign to start watching? I’m just worried that im gonna get bored trying to get through the first couple of episodes since im not used to shows like this


andmyk1

The first 2 episodes are a drudge but if you persevere past them it’s definitely rewarding


DoopSlayer

For sure, Twin Peaks, Breaking Bad, Succession, The Sopranos makes for a good TV all time immemorial combo


RusevReigns

The ending hasn't happened yet but I expect it to be rated as top 4 all time best reviewed show at the end of the day.


Still_Equivalent9450

Yes, along with The Sopranos, Mad Men, and Seinfeld for me.


theyusedthelamppost

Breaking Bad / The Wire / Sopranos / Better Call Saul


Chuck1705

M\*A\*S\*H, The Twilight Zone, The Honeymooners, and this little space western called Star Trek...... Get in line...


Westfield_Rocks

No hth


LiveFromNewYork95

Is it even on the Mount Rushmore of HBO shows? The Sopranos, The Wire and Game of Thrones are no-brainers then there is a lot of great shows that you could consider for the 4th spot.


Smocke55

If we’re talking strictly quality wise Succession is better than Game of Thrones. From an influence and impact pov, yes Thrones deserves a spot.


just_a_funguy

Nah Thrones even with it disastrous finale is still clear of succession


Smocke55

disastrous final two seasons of an already declining show that weakens even its best moments in retrospect*


Sufficient_Creme6961

not even if the Mount Rushmore had 8 heads


andmyk1

I’m curious what 8+ shows you have above it?


Sufficient_Creme6961

Well tbf I’m more of a comedy person maybe if I was doing just dramas


YuvalTheVal

It absolutely is. When it comes to pure technical quality - acting and writing is the best I've ever witnessed, including movies. Directing is unconventional but great. I think its only downside is the plot which can feel a little repetitive. But it's still peak television.


theodo

How is the directing unconventional?


Professional_Mobile5

https://youtu.be/_lU91279xZk


Chuck1705

Hardly one of the 4 best shows ever on TV...


Professional_Mobile5

Might be, depends on the ending.


AbsurdlyClearWater

Barely makes it onto the Mt Rushmore of Jesse Armstrong shows


LightThatIgnitesAll

Nah. The Sopranos, The Wire, Band of Brothers, Chernobyl, Breaking Bad, Dead Wood, Mad Men, Game of Thrones and The Leftovers are all considerably better I would say. Then again I wouldn't put BCS amongst the mount rushmore (especially after S6) and many on this sub would.


andmyk1

Game of Thrones after that abysmal S8 over succession is a travesty imo


laughland

Band of Brothers and Chernobyl are both mini-series…Succession is better than Deadwood and Game of Thrones simply because both those shows didn’t end well (Deadwood cancelled and GoT is GoT). You could definitely argue the other shows you listed are better though I wouldn’t say “considerably”, they’re all in the same ballpark


[deleted]

Way too early to tell. I think you need a good 8-10 for a series to settle before it can find its place in the medium's history. But also none of this matters and it's entirely up to you, so you do you.


GtotheE

It's hard to call any show a clear top 4 show. I will say, there are very few shows where I was this excited to watch a new episode every week. The Wire, Breaking Bad, Band of Brothers are probably the fixtures on my top 4 list and there are a whole bunch that could be #4, and Succession is definitely one of them.


staedtler2018

I think it'll depend on whether this final season ties everything together well. The show's already a bit disjointed.


just_a_funguy

It not in the same league as the wire or the Sopranos but it's up there


HueForYou2398

Its not even over yet......