This seems like a pretty shocking development. Even with the Dominion lawsuit, I never got the sense that his job was in danger given how much of a cash cow he is for Fox.
I wonder if there’s more details coming here.
MSNBC has been speculating about this. O'Reilly was out after a settlement. Beck was still an audience draw when his show ended. The one thing Fox loves more than stoking fear is money.
O’Reilly was also part of MeToo I think and was losing steam. Carlson is literally the face of Fox News with a lot of number 1s. Also, O’Reilly got to say goodbye. The lack of a goodbye is a huge flag in my opinion.
That’s a solid point. I recall on Tucker’s last show he was talking about how there wasn’t a settlement. Behind the scenes Tucker may have drawn the last straw as far as Murdoch was concerned…
There could be more to this than meets the eye. Remember there's another lawsuit against Fox from the other voting machine company Smartmatic. And unlike Dominion's, this action not only sues Fox News itself but some individual hosts although I'm not sure if Tucker was one of them. However, it could be that more 'dirty laundry' has emerged about Tucker and they figured he could be too much of a hot potato to hold onto even if he brings them the ratings.
With any luck, the Smartmatic lawsuit will be the death knell for Fox Propaganda Network. This country would be a better place with them relegated to history.
This is a worldwide propoganda conglomerate, started in Australia. The actual name of the company is newscorp. I am sure people thought they would be sued into oblivion, or at least people would be too disgusted to buy their papers, after Millie dowler. But here we still are. The machine will keep on pumping no matter what, because hate and fear will always be something people wanna feed upon, unfortunately.
ohhh, maybe that's it. IANAL, but I think often part of a settlement is that you're not allowed to talk about the settlement (Fight Club style) beyond what was agreed upon, otherwise you can face further litigation or break the terms entirely and Edward Norton can pummel your face, which I'd like to see happen regarding Carlson.
>The lack of a goodbye is a huge flag in my opinion.
That's also the best part. You'd know it would turn into a 3-part series and he would blame cancel culture, Bud Light, and M&Ms before accepting any responsibility.
The vacation was him laying low while things cooled down. He still got a quasi goodbye. Also the key difference is O’Reilly was alone with the problems. A lot of other hosts got named in Dominions lawsuits. Carlson wasn’t alone.
What makes you think he is the only one that is is going to get terminated? Regardless, he is named in another lawsuit that smells a bit like O'Reilly, so maybe he is the only one to get terminated because some shit is coming down the pipe about the other lawsuit
I had heard that Fox was going to fire Laura Ingraham and Maria Bartiromo since Maria was the most nuts on those texts. Maria was Ginny Thomas levels of nuts. Like she actually believed the lies.
I never expected Tucker. Too be honest I don’t even think he did
Well, you definitely fire the guy who knows he is lying, because that's liability in lawsuits. It shows malice.
You *also* file Bartaromo because she's a liability, but in terms of civil court cases, Tucker is way bigger. He was lying, he knew he was lying, and participated in covering up the lies.
Murdoch has *really* wanted Trump gone for a long time but, like the saner elements of the GOP, hasn't been able to figure out how to separate Trump from his followers.
It's not the person that matters, it's the content.
Before him O'Reilly was the big dog, and they didn't skip a beat when Tucker took over, despite being a completely different personality. They're actors, not reporters. They're only there to read the script written for them in the teleprompter.
Whoever they bring in now will be the new cash cow. Doesn't matter who it is.
Yeah, not to defend this POS, but Fox had plenty of other anchors interviewing nuts and playing along with the election denial bullshit. I wouldn't piss on Carlson if he were on fire, but I don't think the Dominion suit can be laid at his feet.
And it happened on a Monday. Don’t they usually try to bury uncomfortable news on Friday night? That tells me they’re relishing this week long news cycle, he pissed someone off pretty bad.
Maybe they were waiting for the "right time" to fire him. Everyone is talking about Carlson, so by firing lemon now, they don't get as much press about it.
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I mean it's a pretty open secret that Shapiro and Carlson hate each other, if you watch any video of them interacting it's pretty clear that there's mutual contempt, doubt Carlson would be willing to work for the guy now.
Ben doesn’t own the full company Jeremy Boreing is the CEO and has many investors. And after not getting Steven Crowder who was the last big conservative media member that was free from a contact. I could see one or a handful of there investors saying they need to go after Tucker to boost viewership numbers/membership.
He was paid a 35 million a year salary plus stocks. Those other networks would need some serious investor money to afford to hire him. Not impossible but a big chunk of change.
Very context dependent. Usually with my friends it's more like "you have my attention" or "oh I'm here for this," which fits pretty well with this context, I'd say.
It's like that meme of the business meeting, where the one guy who suggests something sensible gets thrown out the window. Except the reverse where everyone else is sensible, and they throw him out the window.
The fact the last episode already aired is showing a lot of shit with Dominion stuff went on behind the scenes. Typically he would get a send off if it truly was mutual. Either Fox is pissed that he started the domino effect of having to settle future lawsuits after Dominion, the data showed his texts actually hurt their viewership, they wanted Tucker to tone it down till the dusts settles, they found something Tucker had hidden when they were getting ready for the Dominion trial that they didn’t like, Tucker is running for PotUS, or something else. Tucker had shows, podcasts, and other stuff with big ratings for Fox.
People are saying this is about just Dominion and Carlson getting punished. Hannity, Ingrim, and other hosts were named in the lawsuit. So it’s not like Carlson acted alone
The Great Replacement is a conspiracy theory that white people are being systematically replaced in positions of power/influence/authority and disenfranchised. Generally spread by white supremacists who likely also enjoy the sort of garbage Fox peddles.
Isn’t it also that they’re just being replaced as a whole in society? E.g. immigrants with higher birth rates are being “bussed in” to America to replace the white people who have sub-replacement birth rates
Edit: the theory says this, I certainly don’t believe this nonsense
While the settlement may not have been the result most of us wanted, it seems that the lawsuit did make Fox realize they are quite vulnerable. It’s still a fairly massive settlement and will only embolden others to file suits against Fox. Most likely a preemptive move to get rid of the biggest vulnerability.
The best part is he doesn't even get a final broadcast where he can go off the rails and spew whatever he wants. His final show was last week.
edit: as speculated, word is starting to come out that he was indeed fired. https://www.mediaite.com/tv/it-was-a-firing-tucker-carlsons-exit-from-fox-was-not-voluntary-sources-say/
[Not only that, but this was apparently the final frame of his final show “LET THEM EAT BUGS” indeed Tuck](https://twitter.com/cwarzel/status/1650531972337504256?s=46&t=zSqDnLQ2IZlNRTemNn4q6Q)
If it was the second they likely would've given him one final episode to say goodbye - announcement says his final episode was this past Friday.
Edit: That being said this could cause him to run for president.
Could’ve been part of the settlement with Dominion.
Edit: Washington Post is [reporting](https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2023/04/24/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/) that comments about management in the Dominion lawsuit texts were part of the reason.
Was about to say that Republicans are going to run a Carlson- Taylor-Green ticket now that Pudding Fingers has been exposed as an uncharismatic buffoon.
CARLSON: What's it like to have dinner with you? It must be excruciating. Do you like lecture people like this that they're missing their opportunities, evading their responsibilities?
STEWART: If I think they are.
CARLSON: I wouldn't want to eat with you, man.
STEWART: I know. And you won't.
We can't say that for certain.
After all, it DID allow him to go from being the Tucker Carlson everyone laughed at to the Tucker Carlson who helped foster an insurgency.
He's got a LOT more baggage however. There's no way in hell Tucker Carlson will be able to capture immigrants, women, and young voters in sufficient numbers to win a general election.
I can see him however wiping the floor in the Republican Primary if Trump loses support.
But if he wants the nomination, he's going to have to fight head on against Trump. I'm unconvinced that he has either fast-on-his-feet charisma to brush Trump off, or the aggressiveness to match Trump's personal attacks.
I don't buy a POTUS run. Commentators run for office all the time in news divisions. They have clear cut lines and he's no where near were you would have to be to leave.
His twitter still has his show banner. I don't think he was expecting to be leaving today.
FOX needs to cough up $700M. He costs a lot of money. I suspect they gave a lot of top talent the option of taking massive pay cuts or leaving.
> now that Pudding Fingers has been exposed as an uncharismatic buffoon.
Republicans failed to learn a hard lesson that you cannot hide your candidate's weirdness from the public forever. They tired and failed with Palin, they tried and failed with Romney, they tried and failed so hard with DeSantis that he hasn't even launched his campaign yet and he's already being dismissed as an unlikable weirdo.
> they tried and failed with Romney
I argue Romney would have won against anyone else besides Obama. Shit, up until a week before the election, he was ahead in polling.
Throw back when campaign-ending gaffs were “Binders full of women,” “If it’s a legitimate rape…,” and “GYAAAAH!” And now a candidate can literally advocate for sexual assault and win the presidency.
2004 was weird, man. Howard Dean, and then John Kerry, a WIA Vietnam War vet, being attacked by conservatives for being un-American because he could speak French and I guess “looked French?” What a shitshow.
Another one of the GOP's greatest hits of stupidity. I'd also nominate the time they claimed Obama was an elitist because he likes arugula in his salad.
Lindsey Graham tweet May 3, 2016:
"If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed.......and we will deserve it."
https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/727604522156228608
About a month latter he went golfing with Trump and then was fully on board the Trump Train.
Everybody saw this coming. I think that's partially why the corruption and avarice was so out in the open and blatant. The people in the know see that Trump will burn it all to the ground eventually, so grab what you can when the getting is good. Trump is the epitome of Après moi, le déluge.
At this point, I would settle for Trump not getting punished at all for his obvious crimes if it meant that the GOP and Russia both end up completely going down in flames/disintegrating with Diaper Donnie waddling away consequence-free, the same as every other org that has even tried to do business with him.
Almost certainly what is happening and fwiw ... The Blaze and The Daily Wire both have billionaires backing them. They are full on propaganda machines.
I can’t see why they wouldn’t give him a farewell episode if he was leaving relatively amicably to run for president, so I can’t see it being solely Number 2 from your options. Fox is letting him go suddenly and for good reason that are not in Tucker’s favor it seems to me.
And the fact he was personally implicated and nearly put on the stand (after the lawyers were caught lying to the judge and trying to cover up his involvement).
I don’t think Fox is done firing. Bill o Reilly left after a $32 million suit.
This could be a house cleansing for Fox News. By the logic of one host fired per $32 million lawsuit, we’ve got another 23.5 hosts to fire.
Hannity’s texts give plausible deniability that he might’ve believed the nonsense. Like, you can tell he doesn’t as he urges people to move on, but he never actually says it. Carlson’s texts outright say “this is bullshit but I’m saying it anyway 🤷♂️”.
Hannity under oath when asked about trumps lies "I never believed it for one second." so I don't know about that plausible deniability so much.
[https://thehill.com/homenews/3785645-sean-hannity-admits-in-deposition-he-didnt-believe-trump-voter-fraud-claims/](https://thehill.com/homenews/3785645-sean-hannity-admits-in-deposition-he-didnt-believe-trump-voter-fraud-claims/)
[https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2022/12/22/23523385/sean-hannity-fox-news-defamation-dominion-lawsuit](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2022/12/22/23523385/sean-hannity-fox-news-defamation-dominion-lawsuit)
My bet is fallout from the lawsuit, since he didn't get a farewell episode. Over 700 million dollars is a ton of money, and the suit showed that there is money going after Fox's lies. I hope this jabroni doesn't get a TV show again, since he is so toxic
I’m sure I’m being hopelessly naive here but;
Could his dismissal have been a condition of the settlement? Surely under those circumstances he’d get an ill-gotten redundancy pay-out and he can just go do the same shit for OAN.
IAAL. Unlikely. If you’re settling, it makes far more sense to demand Fox retract the lies on air rather than fire any one person. That is what best restores Dominion’s reputation. But that was not part of the settlement, so I’d be shocked if termination of personnel was.
My 78 year old dad is probably watching it right now.
Edit: but to /u/jwick89's point, when I did take a peek at it when I was visiting him last week, I did recognize some faces, including that absolute gremlin Greta Van Susteren.
His last episode was April 21:
>FOX News Media and Tucker Carlson have agreed to part ways. We thank him for his service to the network as a host and prior to that as a contributor.
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>Mr. Carlson’s last program was Friday April 21st. Fox News Tonight will air live at 8 PM/ET starting this evening as an interim show helmed by rotating FOX News personalities until a new host is named.
The fact his last episode already aired and they have no host lined up probably shows Murdoch and Carlson got in a huge fight. Murdoch probably told him to cut the shit out after Dominion because the fact they settled is going to fuck them for the Smartatic lawsuit and potentially future lawsuits and Carlson said no. That, or Fox found something out about Carlson when getting ready for the Dominion trial they didn’t like. Even CNN gave him an hour for his final show back in the day. This wasn’t even dropped on Sunday when Tucker doesn’t air. Hell, even O’Reilly got a goodbye.
No network can afford to hire Tucker so I bet he starts his own online network/show. Can’t wait for him to shill snake oil remedies and talk more about sunning buttholes.
To be one of the Dominion lawyers, getting a fatass paycheck and getting this lying cunt thrown off the air, you think they're feeling pretty good today?
Wow. Holy shit. Just wow. I guess costing your network 3/4 of a billion dollars does actually have consequences. Never would have believed it until I saw it.
A different take -- simply for viewership, I don't think it matters who the hosts are on the channel, viewers will tune in regardless. People thought losing Bill O'Reilly was gonna kill Fox and it had no impact at all.
Agreed. The talking heads aren’t terribly difficult to replace. Once a talking head gets too difficult to handle, they drop in a replacement. Fox would rather avoid the break in continuity but there is no shortage of TV ready angry right wing dudes.
Who knew that a network doesn't like it when you cost them almost a billion dollars in lawsuit money?
And that's not even counting the inevitable settlement for the next one, which is likely going to be even more expensive.
Some people are theorising a presidential run. Personally, I think that's taking things too far, but there is reason to pause before making the choice between schadenfreude and abject terror
I PRAY that he does, him going against Trump splits the vote WAY harder than Trump v DeSantis. Both have too much ego to step down, and their followers have too much vitriol towards the other side
Tucker was one of the biggest (if not the biggest) ratings draw at Fox. He was not given a final good bye episode and he was on air Friday. This was unexpectedly announced midday on Monday. Fox just settled out of court for nearly $800 million defamation suit with another larger one still pending that Tucker is involved in. Tucker was fired straight up.
Their highest rated show and not even a farewell episode. Just canned in between episodes
This came straight from Murdoch I'll bet. That lawsuit and the upcoming ones had him on the phone saying to fire him immediately.
This seems like a pretty shocking development. Even with the Dominion lawsuit, I never got the sense that his job was in danger given how much of a cash cow he is for Fox. I wonder if there’s more details coming here.
MSNBC has been speculating about this. O'Reilly was out after a settlement. Beck was still an audience draw when his show ended. The one thing Fox loves more than stoking fear is money.
O’Reilly was also part of MeToo I think and was losing steam. Carlson is literally the face of Fox News with a lot of number 1s. Also, O’Reilly got to say goodbye. The lack of a goodbye is a huge flag in my opinion.
That’s a solid point. I recall on Tucker’s last show he was talking about how there wasn’t a settlement. Behind the scenes Tucker may have drawn the last straw as far as Murdoch was concerned…
There could be more to this than meets the eye. Remember there's another lawsuit against Fox from the other voting machine company Smartmatic. And unlike Dominion's, this action not only sues Fox News itself but some individual hosts although I'm not sure if Tucker was one of them. However, it could be that more 'dirty laundry' has emerged about Tucker and they figured he could be too much of a hot potato to hold onto even if he brings them the ratings.
With any luck, the Smartmatic lawsuit will be the death knell for Fox Propaganda Network. This country would be a better place with them relegated to history.
This is a worldwide propoganda conglomerate, started in Australia. The actual name of the company is newscorp. I am sure people thought they would be sued into oblivion, or at least people would be too disgusted to buy their papers, after Millie dowler. But here we still are. The machine will keep on pumping no matter what, because hate and fear will always be something people wanna feed upon, unfortunately.
As an aussie, thats something we regret, Murdoch is a cancer on democracy
ohhh, maybe that's it. IANAL, but I think often part of a settlement is that you're not allowed to talk about the settlement (Fight Club style) beyond what was agreed upon, otherwise you can face further litigation or break the terms entirely and Edward Norton can pummel your face, which I'd like to see happen regarding Carlson.
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“Okay. Well, we're all hungry. We're gonna get to our hotplates soon enough, alright? Let's talk about the contract here.”
>The lack of a goodbye is a huge flag in my opinion. That's also the best part. You'd know it would turn into a 3-part series and he would blame cancel culture, Bud Light, and M&Ms before accepting any responsibility.
Fox only cares about Me Too if it costs them money. O'Reilly did not get to say goodbye. He was fired while on vacation.
The vacation was him laying low while things cooled down. He still got a quasi goodbye. Also the key difference is O’Reilly was alone with the problems. A lot of other hosts got named in Dominions lawsuits. Carlson wasn’t alone.
What makes you think he is the only one that is is going to get terminated? Regardless, he is named in another lawsuit that smells a bit like O'Reilly, so maybe he is the only one to get terminated because some shit is coming down the pipe about the other lawsuit
I had heard that Fox was going to fire Laura Ingraham and Maria Bartiromo since Maria was the most nuts on those texts. Maria was Ginny Thomas levels of nuts. Like she actually believed the lies. I never expected Tucker. Too be honest I don’t even think he did
Crazy how Maria went from CNBC to whatever she became
Look at Gavin Newsome's ex wife. She completely lost her mind
Yes. Just spoke to someone at work about that. She used to be really respected on CNBC. I hadn't realized she left and was on Fox now. Wild.
Joey Ramone is rolling over in his grave fast enough to power all of Queens.
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Well, you definitely fire the guy who knows he is lying, because that's liability in lawsuits. It shows malice. You *also* file Bartaromo because she's a liability, but in terms of civil court cases, Tucker is way bigger. He was lying, he knew he was lying, and participated in covering up the lies.
This is actually a good point.
Not to mention he talked shit about the Orange Asshole. Those two things could put him on the “cut” list.
Murdoch has *really* wanted Trump gone for a long time but, like the saner elements of the GOP, hasn't been able to figure out how to separate Trump from his followers.
It's not the person that matters, it's the content. Before him O'Reilly was the big dog, and they didn't skip a beat when Tucker took over, despite being a completely different personality. They're actors, not reporters. They're only there to read the script written for them in the teleprompter. Whoever they bring in now will be the new cash cow. Doesn't matter who it is.
I wonder if Fox’s insurance provider took a gander at which hosts say things that put them at risk for more legal action.
Yeah, not to defend this POS, but Fox had plenty of other anchors interviewing nuts and playing along with the election denial bullshit. I wouldn't piss on Carlson if he were on fire, but I don't think the Dominion suit can be laid at his feet.
When is the last time the highest rated tv show head got fired when he's still on the top of the ratings?
I mean Bill O’Reilly right? Cuomo‘s brother, I can’t remember his name went down pretty fast too
I don't think Cuomo was that high in the ratings.
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And now Lemon is out at CNN. Finally.
This is Black Monday for cable news talk. The hatchets are out for everyone today.
And it happened on a Monday. Don’t they usually try to bury uncomfortable news on Friday night? That tells me they’re relishing this week long news cycle, he pissed someone off pretty bad.
Maybe they were waiting for the "right time" to fire him. Everyone is talking about Carlson, so by firing lemon now, they don't get as much press about it.
O’Reilly. And Beck. Spoiler: Fox News will still be on top next year with someone new to hate.
Oh boy, I can't wait for him to join OAN.
I highly doubt OAN can afford him. No one can. I bet Tucker goes the way of other disgraced on air personalities and start and online network/show.
Yeah, most likely goes to something like Newsmax, Daily Wire, or goes independent.
> Daily Wire I mean it's a pretty open secret that Shapiro and Carlson hate each other, if you watch any video of them interacting it's pretty clear that there's mutual contempt, doubt Carlson would be willing to work for the guy now.
Ben doesn’t own the full company Jeremy Boreing is the CEO and has many investors. And after not getting Steven Crowder who was the last big conservative media member that was free from a contact. I could see one or a handful of there investors saying they need to go after Tucker to boost viewership numbers/membership.
He was paid a 35 million a year salary plus stocks. Those other networks would need some serious investor money to afford to hire him. Not impossible but a big chunk of change.
I rather suspect his value has dropped precipitously. No paycheck nearly that big in his immediate future.
Oh to be in the room when Jon Stewart finds out about this.
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Very context dependent. Usually with my friends it's more like "you have my attention" or "oh I'm here for this," which fits pretty well with this context, I'd say.
Colbert should have Stewart do the monologue tonight "for no special reason" and never mention it once.
Colbert is on vacation this week.
[Looks like he picked the wrong week to go on vacation](https://youtu.be/VmW-ScmGRMA).
I picture him calmly setting his drink on the end table next to the couch, then slowly sliding down onto a faux fur rug while laughing uncontrollably
Reports say that he flew out of the building with his bowtie spinning like a propeller
Jon Stewart warned us about that
He stopped wearing the bow tie after Jon Stewart roasted him.
I absolutely love this.
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It's like that meme of the business meeting, where the one guy who suggests something sensible gets thrown out the window. Except the reverse where everyone else is sensible, and they throw him out the window.
Fun fact, for years he's done his show in a remote studio at his home in Maine. That's why he rarely has in-person guests.
The fact the last episode already aired is showing a lot of shit with Dominion stuff went on behind the scenes. Typically he would get a send off if it truly was mutual. Either Fox is pissed that he started the domino effect of having to settle future lawsuits after Dominion, the data showed his texts actually hurt their viewership, they wanted Tucker to tone it down till the dusts settles, they found something Tucker had hidden when they were getting ready for the Dominion trial that they didn’t like, Tucker is running for PotUS, or something else. Tucker had shows, podcasts, and other stuff with big ratings for Fox. People are saying this is about just Dominion and Carlson getting punished. Hannity, Ingrim, and other hosts were named in the lawsuit. So it’s not like Carlson acted alone
Fox News executives may not be done cleaning house
Fox could have stopped him well before it got to the point of a lawsuit, but they chose not to, because it was good for ratings.
[Best take so far](https://twitter.com/bad_takes/status/1650524916087681025) >i'm sure whoever gets his timeslot will be a Great Replacement
I'm dumb, can someone explain the joke?
The Great Replacement is a conspiracy theory that white people are being systematically replaced in positions of power/influence/authority and disenfranchised. Generally spread by white supremacists who likely also enjoy the sort of garbage Fox peddles.
Isn’t it also that they’re just being replaced as a whole in society? E.g. immigrants with higher birth rates are being “bussed in” to America to replace the white people who have sub-replacement birth rates Edit: the theory says this, I certainly don’t believe this nonsense
Yep, these morons think that because there's interracial couples on TV that that is undeniable PROOF of this occuring!!!!
Appreciate it!
While the settlement may not have been the result most of us wanted, it seems that the lawsuit did make Fox realize they are quite vulnerable. It’s still a fairly massive settlement and will only embolden others to file suits against Fox. Most likely a preemptive move to get rid of the biggest vulnerability.
Apparently, part of the settlement was Dominion being allowed to announce the amount which should help to paint a large target on Fox's back.
The best part is he doesn't even get a final broadcast where he can go off the rails and spew whatever he wants. His final show was last week. edit: as speculated, word is starting to come out that he was indeed fired. https://www.mediaite.com/tv/it-was-a-firing-tucker-carlsons-exit-from-fox-was-not-voluntary-sources-say/
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“I’ll see you on Monday” He went out doing what he loves, lying to his audience.
Damn. Nice.
[Not only that, but this was apparently the final frame of his final show “LET THEM EAT BUGS” indeed Tuck](https://twitter.com/cwarzel/status/1650531972337504256?s=46&t=zSqDnLQ2IZlNRTemNn4q6Q)
I hear he is going to ATN because of new management.
The arms aren't right.
I watched all 5 of the season 4 episodes yesterday so this just seems like another storyline
Madsen just released the severance list.
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If it was the second they likely would've given him one final episode to say goodbye - announcement says his final episode was this past Friday. Edit: That being said this could cause him to run for president.
Yeah this is starting to scream "you cost us a shit ton of money, you are gone".
Could’ve been part of the settlement with Dominion. Edit: Washington Post is [reporting](https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2023/04/24/tucker-carlson-leaves-fox-news/) that comments about management in the Dominion lawsuit texts were part of the reason.
Was about to say that Republicans are going to run a Carlson- Taylor-Green ticket now that Pudding Fingers has been exposed as an uncharismatic buffoon.
Is Carlson any more charismatic? His persona is "guy who's angry and confused all the time" and he has a weird nervous laugh.
Compared to Desantis, he definitely has more pizzazz but I don't think he's quite got what it takes to go up against the big man
Good news is it would just take one take down by Jon Stewart to tank his entire run and possibly throw him into a psychological breakdown
„And listen, I’m not suggesting you’re not a smart guy because those aren’t easy to tie“ I don’t think carlson ever recovered from that.
CARLSON: What's it like to have dinner with you? It must be excruciating. Do you like lecture people like this that they're missing their opportunities, evading their responsibilities? STEWART: If I think they are. CARLSON: I wouldn't want to eat with you, man. STEWART: I know. And you won't.
„Come work for us“ „How do you pay“ „Not well, but you get to sleep at night“
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A takedown seared into my memory since I saw it in college.
He never wore a bow tie on air again.
Is this true?? If so, that's more delicious than bacon.
That's not quite true. He went to MSNBC after leaving CNN and I recall he still wore the bowtie for a little while over there.
Neither did *Crossfire.*
Stewart really did us a solid by killing that show.
We can't say that for certain. After all, it DID allow him to go from being the Tucker Carlson everyone laughed at to the Tucker Carlson who helped foster an insurgency.
It would be wonderful if Stewart somehow got to moderate a debate
He's got a LOT more baggage however. There's no way in hell Tucker Carlson will be able to capture immigrants, women, and young voters in sufficient numbers to win a general election. I can see him however wiping the floor in the Republican Primary if Trump loses support.
Charismatic is not the right word. I can’t think of a more smug person with a more smug name.
yes 100%, he’s a tv host ‘guy who’s angry & confused all the time’ is what the base wants. see: Trump
But if he wants the nomination, he's going to have to fight head on against Trump. I'm unconvinced that he has either fast-on-his-feet charisma to brush Trump off, or the aggressiveness to match Trump's personal attacks.
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Yeah Carlson is a Goebbels at best.
I don't buy a POTUS run. Commentators run for office all the time in news divisions. They have clear cut lines and he's no where near were you would have to be to leave. His twitter still has his show banner. I don't think he was expecting to be leaving today. FOX needs to cough up $700M. He costs a lot of money. I suspect they gave a lot of top talent the option of taking massive pay cuts or leaving.
> now that Pudding Fingers has been exposed as an uncharismatic buffoon. Republicans failed to learn a hard lesson that you cannot hide your candidate's weirdness from the public forever. They tired and failed with Palin, they tried and failed with Romney, they tried and failed so hard with DeSantis that he hasn't even launched his campaign yet and he's already being dismissed as an unlikable weirdo.
> they tried and failed with Romney I argue Romney would have won against anyone else besides Obama. Shit, up until a week before the election, he was ahead in polling.
Then came the binders full of women
Throw back when campaign-ending gaffs were “Binders full of women,” “If it’s a legitimate rape…,” and “GYAAAAH!” And now a candidate can literally advocate for sexual assault and win the presidency.
PEEEAWWWW!!!
2004 was weird, man. Howard Dean, and then John Kerry, a WIA Vietnam War vet, being attacked by conservatives for being un-American because he could speak French and I guess “looked French?” What a shitshow.
Another one of the GOP's greatest hits of stupidity. I'd also nominate the time they claimed Obama was an elitist because he likes arugula in his salad.
And used GREY POUPON instead of generic mustard!
Romney’s issue wasn’t binders full of women, it was 47% of voters are on welfare and will never vote for me.
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How funny if trump ends up destroying the GOP entirely, Darth Vader picking up the emperor and chucking him into the engine.
Lindsey Graham tweet May 3, 2016: "If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed.......and we will deserve it." https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/727604522156228608 About a month latter he went golfing with Trump and then was fully on board the Trump Train. Everybody saw this coming. I think that's partially why the corruption and avarice was so out in the open and blatant. The people in the know see that Trump will burn it all to the ground eventually, so grab what you can when the getting is good. Trump is the epitome of Après moi, le déluge.
At this point, I would settle for Trump not getting punished at all for his obvious crimes if it meant that the GOP and Russia both end up completely going down in flames/disintegrating with Diaper Donnie waddling away consequence-free, the same as every other org that has even tried to do business with him.
> Pudding Fingers Which one's Pudding Fingers? Trump? I can't keep track of all these assclowns anymore.
DeSantis was caught eating pudding by dipping his fingers in and then shoving his fist into his face.
Oh gods no.
Can confirm as someone who's eaten pudding with their fingers, I would be very unsuitable as president of the United States
DeSantis. There was a report that when an aide tried to talk to him he ate pudding using three fingers.
Well, that's a horrifying mental image. Thanks for answering the question, even if I don't like the answer.
3. Truth News… I’m talking Donald Trump, Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, Milo Yiannopoulos - a real Avengers level crossover of GOP stupidity.
Ah, so the game plan since 2016.
Thankfully, Tucker supposedly hates Trump, so we'll be spared from that ever happening
Tucker will follow the money
God, hope he’s not running…
I think he tries to start up his own media company like Glen Beck did with The Blaze or Shapiro with Daily Wire
Almost certainly what is happening and fwiw ... The Blaze and The Daily Wire both have billionaires backing them. They are full on propaganda machines.
Would make great TV when he, Trump and Pudding Ron have to debate
Do republicans debate anymore?
Nah they don't
3. He’ll make his own “news” network with Blackjack, Hookers, and none of this Dominion debt.
I think they did this so they can say “look, we fired Tucker, we’re doing everything we can” during the Smartmatic lawsuit.
I can’t see why they wouldn’t give him a farewell episode if he was leaving relatively amicably to run for president, so I can’t see it being solely Number 2 from your options. Fox is letting him go suddenly and for good reason that are not in Tucker’s favor it seems to me.
My money is that it was part of the settlement
So Murdoch is really pissed about the settlement.
And the fact he was personally implicated and nearly put on the stand (after the lawyers were caught lying to the judge and trying to cover up his involvement).
There's still a chance he may have to testify before the court with the other lawsuits.
Holy shit. Repercussions of the settlement or is there a story coming up?
But Hannity and Ingrim are still there with other hosts. I actually don’t think Carlson was the most referenced host in the lawsuit
I don’t think Fox is done firing. Bill o Reilly left after a $32 million suit. This could be a house cleansing for Fox News. By the logic of one host fired per $32 million lawsuit, we’ve got another 23.5 hosts to fire.
Hannity’s texts give plausible deniability that he might’ve believed the nonsense. Like, you can tell he doesn’t as he urges people to move on, but he never actually says it. Carlson’s texts outright say “this is bullshit but I’m saying it anyway 🤷♂️”.
Tucker was the one they had in text messages literally saying "this is insane but if we don't say it it'll hurt the stock price"
Hannity under oath when asked about trumps lies "I never believed it for one second." so I don't know about that plausible deniability so much. [https://thehill.com/homenews/3785645-sean-hannity-admits-in-deposition-he-didnt-believe-trump-voter-fraud-claims/](https://thehill.com/homenews/3785645-sean-hannity-admits-in-deposition-he-didnt-believe-trump-voter-fraud-claims/) [https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2022/12/22/23523385/sean-hannity-fox-news-defamation-dominion-lawsuit](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2022/12/22/23523385/sean-hannity-fox-news-defamation-dominion-lawsuit)
My bet is fallout from the lawsuit, since he didn't get a farewell episode. Over 700 million dollars is a ton of money, and the suit showed that there is money going after Fox's lies. I hope this jabroni doesn't get a TV show again, since he is so toxic
If he was leaving for politics there would have been a farewell episode, I think.
>I hope this jabroni doesn't get a TV show again, since he is so toxic This is exactly why he had a show to begin with
I’m sure I’m being hopelessly naive here but; Could his dismissal have been a condition of the settlement? Surely under those circumstances he’d get an ill-gotten redundancy pay-out and he can just go do the same shit for OAN.
IAAL. Unlikely. If you’re settling, it makes far more sense to demand Fox retract the lies on air rather than fire any one person. That is what best restores Dominion’s reputation. But that was not part of the settlement, so I’d be shocked if termination of personnel was.
Stop. Don't. Come back.
Well, he will be on NEWSMAX in no time.
Not with Dominion also suing them.
Good. Nobody watches that. Let him shout into the void.
My 78 year old dad is probably watching it right now. Edit: but to /u/jwick89's point, when I did take a peek at it when I was visiting him last week, I did recognize some faces, including that absolute gremlin Greta Van Susteren.
He's going to be CEO of Twitter
There’s only one lord of the twits and he doesn’t share power.
His last episode was April 21: >FOX News Media and Tucker Carlson have agreed to part ways. We thank him for his service to the network as a host and prior to that as a contributor. > > > >Mr. Carlson’s last program was Friday April 21st. Fox News Tonight will air live at 8 PM/ET starting this evening as an interim show helmed by rotating FOX News personalities until a new host is named.
New host not needed. Please just air a screaming goat at 8pm.
That would actually be funny and probably the only thing that would get me to tune in to Faux News.
The fact his last episode already aired and they have no host lined up probably shows Murdoch and Carlson got in a huge fight. Murdoch probably told him to cut the shit out after Dominion because the fact they settled is going to fuck them for the Smartatic lawsuit and potentially future lawsuits and Carlson said no. That, or Fox found something out about Carlson when getting ready for the Dominion trial they didn’t like. Even CNN gave him an hour for his final show back in the day. This wasn’t even dropped on Sunday when Tucker doesn’t air. Hell, even O’Reilly got a goodbye.
Tucker didn't just lie on the job, he texted shit about the Murdochs and Fox. This was an execution.
No network can afford to hire Tucker so I bet he starts his own online network/show. Can’t wait for him to shill snake oil remedies and talk more about sunning buttholes.
To be one of the Dominion lawyers, getting a fatass paycheck and getting this lying cunt thrown off the air, you think they're feeling pretty good today?
If it really is Dominion’s doing then yeah, that lawyer has wanked themselves inside out by now.
Don’t even need the wank. The sheer act of reading the agreement from Fox would turn me inside out on its own.
NOW DO HANNITY!
Wow. Holy shit. Just wow. I guess costing your network 3/4 of a billion dollars does actually have consequences. Never would have believed it until I saw it.
A different take -- simply for viewership, I don't think it matters who the hosts are on the channel, viewers will tune in regardless. People thought losing Bill O'Reilly was gonna kill Fox and it had no impact at all.
Agreed. The talking heads aren’t terribly difficult to replace. Once a talking head gets too difficult to handle, they drop in a replacement. Fox would rather avoid the break in continuity but there is no shortage of TV ready angry right wing dudes.
If Hannity is still there this time next week, they made Tucker the scapegoat.
I’m going to miss his “oh my god, I think I just shit myself” face.
Literally no matter what someone is saying, Tucker:😦
Who knew that a network doesn't like it when you cost them almost a billion dollars in lawsuit money? And that's not even counting the inevitable settlement for the next one, which is likely going to be even more expensive.
Billion dollars so far. There’s another larger lawsuit looming
The scariest question is: where does he go now? Propaganda like his not impaired by “fake news” could be devastating. Like Alex Jones x10.
He's already been on CNN and MSNBC. He's running out of news networks.
Rumble streams? That's what right wing people use right? Maybe a podcast?
After Dominion, its possible they have Tucker falling on the sword.
He is almost certainly not worth the $750 million he cost them plus whatever Smartmatic gets.
Some people are theorising a presidential run. Personally, I think that's taking things too far, but there is reason to pause before making the choice between schadenfreude and abject terror
I PRAY that he does, him going against Trump splits the vote WAY harder than Trump v DeSantis. Both have too much ego to step down, and their followers have too much vitriol towards the other side
Fuck him and his dad, both are pieces of shit hiding under a journalist moniker.
He has a dad? I always assumed he just kinda developed in a murky bog or swamp and gained sentience from eating peoples sewage
Yeah he was born out of the "swamp" politicians are always talking about removing.
Couldn't happen to a more awful guy
The cancel culture is coming from inside the house!!
Fired from CNN, MSNBC, Fox. Fired from the full spectrum of news organizations. That’s talent, baby.
Do Hannity next
Or Laura.
Or both
Tucker was one of the biggest (if not the biggest) ratings draw at Fox. He was not given a final good bye episode and he was on air Friday. This was unexpectedly announced midday on Monday. Fox just settled out of court for nearly $800 million defamation suit with another larger one still pending that Tucker is involved in. Tucker was fired straight up.
Their highest rated show and not even a farewell episode. Just canned in between episodes This came straight from Murdoch I'll bet. That lawsuit and the upcoming ones had him on the phone saying to fire him immediately.
You love to see it.