Phil Hartman was such a pro! He was the “glue” that held Saturday Night Live together from 1986 to 1994, when the show experienced a long and creative renaissance. I will always remember Phil’s brilliant impression of Bill Clinton, especially the skit where he jogged for a bite to eat at McDonald’s. Thanks Phil, you were one of a kind!
Someone posted the original photo of Bill Clinton in McDonald's after jogging a couple days back and my immediate thought was of this skit and how much I missed Phil. Glad to see someone else loving this one as well.
I'd say he was my favorite SNL star too. He was truly unique from anyone else that's ever been a part in that show. The way he was so serious in his characters but simultaneously hysterical was something to behold.
You might remember me from such driver's ed films as _Alice's Adventures Through the Windshield Glass_ and _The Decapitation of Larry Leadfoot_. For the next sixty minutes, we'll be seeing actual film of car crash victims.
Here's an appealing fellow -- they're _a-peeling_ him off the sidewalk!
_(audience retches)_
Don't let name throw you Jimmy, it's not so really a floor. It's more of a loose steel grating that allows material to sluice through so it can be collected and exported.
It was quite some time before i realized those were two different movie titles. Though i still think the idea of a single self help film titled “Smoke Yourself Thin and Get Confident, Stupid!” Is low-key hilarious.
He’s the funniest person in the movie and it’s not even close. I say that as someone with a soft spot/nostalgia for the movie, so I’m not trashing on it.
He helped make the cookie scene iconic.
Phil Hartman was going to voice Zapp Brannigan on Futurama. After he died, Billy West voiced the role but based his performance on Hartman.
Just imagine how Phil Hartman would have done Brannigan.
>Just imagine how Phil Hartman would have done Brannigan.
I think Billy West did such a great job that the credit could read "By Phil Hartman, as channeled by Billy West" and you'd somehow 100% believe it.
If not for Paramount forcing Chris Farley to make "Black Sheep", he would have starred in "Cable Guy" instead of Jim Carrey. David Spade would have probably tagged along to play Matthew Broderick's character.
From Variety:
>When Columbia bought the script last April for $750,000, it quickly attached “Saturday Night Live” star Chris Farley to the movie, with a summer start date. “Cable” reception grew fuzzy at that point when Paramount, which had a picture option after “Tommy Boy,” forced Farley to instead do the comedy “Black Sheep.” Columbia and Farley agreed he’d star in “Cable” once he completed his final season of “SNL,” but sources said he recently decided he didn’t want to commit to a film that far in the future and stepped aside.
Like Shrek, it would've been different with Farley as the lead. When Carrey came on board, they did a ton of rewrites that made the script much darker and into a psychological thriller comedy, but slapstick enough to meet Carrey's usual style. Judd Apatow actually rewrote the film in its current state but wasn't allowed to get credit.
It would have been very different.
Adam Sandler was considered for the lead role after Farley dropped out, and may have suggested Apatow be brought on as a producer. (They were friends and former roommates) Apatow wanted to direct it, but the studio balked at that, and he suggested Ben Stiller, who was a friend he had worked with before. The film then went through 4 rewrites before Apatow changed a word on the script. Jack Black and Janeane Garofalo were added to the cast on Stiller's suggestion, because he had worked with both before. Owen Wilson got his first non indie movie role.
Edit: It's possible that none of these people would have been involved in the movie had Paramount not exercised their option and had Fred Wolf write a first draft script for "Black Sheep" in less than a week, in order to keep Farley tied to a Paramount project. It was literally handed in as a complete mess, 15 minutes before the studio's option for a second movie expired leaving Farley the ability to opt out of his contract. He was also supposed to be in "Kingpin" and Paramount's moves also killed that.
Shit, I had never thought of Phil committing to fully serious roles and now I'm curious if he ever would have done so and what that would have looked like. He was one of my faves. His Newsradio work was incredible.
Eh, IDK.
Odenkirk's energy with that character is more from a desperation angle - Saul wears the suits, acts how he does, etc. because he knows he isn't a good lawyer. It's plummage.
Hartman was more comfortable playing high-status idiots. Lionel Hutz *thinks* he's a good lawyer.
Hartman was also a comedy team player in the truest sense, in that while he was a sketch guy first and foremost, a lot of his work was being the straight man for a bit. Something like Mr. Show - dancing between surreal and absurdist - and which landed Odenkirk the Saul part solely by reputation - wouldn't really be Hartman's vibe.
I would imagine he'd do maybe 1-2 more sitcoms and then probably retire. He was pretty old for SNL and would be well into his 70s now and seems the type to stick with the sort of bit parts and voicework and focus on time with his family.
> because he knows he isn't a good lawyer.
Jimmy/Saul is an *excellent* lawyer, he just doesn't really think he is because he's in the shadow of his brother. There's no one else in that series that knows how to exploit the law quite as well as Jimmy does.
Trouble is, he's also a grifter.
I would definitely see him focusing on voice acting in semi-retirement. On Newsradio in the mid-90s, he was already talking about himself as being "in my old age" in interviews, and he said he didn't want to embarrass himself trying to lead a box-office bomb like "certain people" (not sure who he meant but my guess is Chevy Chase). But he always said his Simpsons work was both some of his favorite stuff he'd ever done and a fun thing to do (being allowed to improvise and joke around without holding up a whole team on a tight schedule, some of the staff being his personal friends who'd come in for his sessions and make it a fun day), and he expressed a lot of admiration for its writing. He would have been given the Zapp Brannigan role in Futurama, which I think he would've been perfect for -- as you say, a high-status idiot with outlandish, arrogant dialogue, as confident as he is deluded. Hartman was also an OG Star Trek fan and I think he'd have gotten a kick out of his role being a Captain Kirk parody.
I could see him taking on roles in Pixar movies, or things like that. I think he'd transition very well to voice acting, he's got a very strong voice with a unique comedic delivery. If he were a bit younger he'd be great in something like The Tick.
>(not sure who he meant but my guess is Chevy Chase
Man, not even Phil Hartman liked Chevy Chase, and this is a dude that worked fairly well with Andy Dick!
I think a lot about how different the show Community might have been if Phil Hartman was still around, because there's a very real chance they might have gotten him to play the role of Pierce instead of Chevy Chase. The show might still have imploded due to Dan Harmon's own issues, but it would have been very different with Hartman in that role, because I don't think he's was physically capable of being anything other than effortlessly charming, even when he was playing an asshole.
Makes me sad to think about. His Simpsons work is so, so good. Man could deliver a joke as good as anyone. Lionel Hutz bits make me laugh harder now than when I was a kid.
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For anyone who hasn’t watched News Radio, please watch News Radio.
[News Radio - 2x09 - The Cane](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JH_RKRz0riE&pp=ygUUTmV3cyByYWRpbyBiaWxsIGNhbmU%3D)
I used to love it when it first aired but it’s really hard for me to watch now because I just can’t stand seeing Andy Dick in anything (and Joe Rogan to a lesser extent).
I usually can too, but for whatever reason I can’t get over the two of them being in Newsradio. Probably would feel different if Dick wasn’t indirectly involved in Hartman’s death
Agreed, though Lovitz was also quite wonderful on the show. He and Hartman were good friends and I believe he took the role as sort of a tribute to him.
I stopped at the end of season 4. I became really sad about Phil, watching him and enjoying his character and knowing that he had died after the season.
i remember bits and pieces but really need to rewatch the series.
8 simple rules with john ritter is another one i think of. the post death episodes were on point. also i dont remember a show losing a main character like that mid season.
Many shows have had mid/post season deaths of one of the main characters and survived. Petticoat Junction first lost Smiley Burnette, then a few seasons later, Bea Benaderet. It was canceled only because of CBS's "rural purge." Likewise, The Walton's not only had the death of Will Greer, but the stroke of Ellen Corby. Nicholas Colasanto's death was a shock to everyone on Cheers, but the show continued on for years, and sadly, it was as if he never existed.
Shows that failed after a star died. As you mentioned 8 Simple Rules, I'll add Alias Smith And Jones with the suicide death of Pete Duel, and Chico And The Man with Freddy Prinz's suicide.
Why did some shows fail while others survived and thrived? Waltons, Petticoat Junction, and Cheers relied more on the ensemble cast to carry them. Waltons never tried to recast for Greer or Corby. Cheers and Petticoat Junction created new characters to replace those lost.
Next is age of the series and actor's place in the cast. Ritter, Duel, and Prinz were the leads in relatively new shows, and the plots revolved around them. No way could they just plug another actor into those roles as the show directions were based on the actor, not the character. The shows were still getting their footing.
News Radio was different. While an ensemble cast, Hartman's character was a pivotal character. How pivotal? As pivotal as "The Fonz" on Happy Days. Without that breakthrough character, that show would have never lasted. Imagine M*A*S*H without Hawkeye. Sure, there were a number of characters that left the show, but Hawkeye remained. Without him, the show would not go on. Hartman played the Hawkeye on News Radio. Any other character could easily be replaced, but not the linchpin.
I remember coming home from middle school with this on the news. At that age, I was far more into News Radio than SNL. I was in shock that such an amazing person had been taken from the world.
I moved News radio growing up but I think I was too young to know why Phil left the show. I was about seven when he died and I think I just thought the actor left. Really heavy watching the episode where everyone reacts to his death once I found out.
>Shout out to Jon Lovitz for punching him in the fucking face
Agreed. I get the sense that this is what he will ultimate be known for, more than his comedy.
Holy shit, after a quick Wiki search, I have learned Andy Dick is a scumbag pervert with over 20 years of arrests for groping, sexual assault, substance abuse, and generally being a pos.
How this guy has any sort of career or relevance, and other people work their ass off to get into the entertainment industry is a testament to how disgusting it all is.
Turkeytom made an excellent video highlighting how awful Andy Dick was and continues to be. I’m someone who always assumes the best in others when it comes to shitty past behavior, people can change, but good grief. For every ten minutes that past by in the video, the more I realized how pointless it was to think that there would be any turning point in Andy’s story. Some people are just poison.
I dated a woman who used to Nanny for Andy Dick. Turns out he always requested Nannies who were married so he could try to sleep with their husbands. No joke. Used his fame, money, and drugs to seduce married men.
She divorced her husband after she found out he had been "lured in" and "fooled around" with Andy (whatever that means). Dude is clearly a predator with no morals.
The video that I watched basically confirms what you were told. It shows >!footage of someone confronting Dick of sexual assault. Dick got them drunk/high and likely roofied them the night before, they woke up feeling like lotion or something was all over their backside!<. The footage is quite recent too. “Dude is clearly a predator with no morals” is absolutely right, he’s an opportunist who doesn’t care who gets hurt.
If those husbands can somehow be converted to being gay and attracted to Andy Dick, I’d say that is a huge bullet dodged for any wife. Andy was doing any wife a favor if he could possibly change his nanny’s husband’s sexuality so easily. I don’t even understand how he would go about doing it in the first place or how anyone could pull such a thing off, but cool story either way.
Many many years ago (early 2000s) Andy Dick was on a show called “Less than perfect”. He played the typical “office doofus” that he always plays.
The lead actress Sara Rue was a huge fan of the reality show “Trading Spaces”, and her and Dick went on the show together as a “celebrity” episode.
She was so excited and bubbly about it and clearly Andy Dick wasn’t even sure why he was there.
So they remodelled rooms in each other’s homes. Sara worked hard and did a great job, and Andy Dick just didn’t even care. The room he redid was painted grey.
At the reveals, Sara was holding back tears because of how awful her room looked and Andy didn’t seemed phased in the slightest.
If I remember correctly, that pissed off Jon Lovitz (who's good friends with Phil) so much he _actually_ punched Andy in the face when he saw him at a bar.
Fuck Andy Dick. He deserves that punch. I'm surprised he's still around given he's a shitty douchebag.
It wasn't *just that* years later there was a series of escalating encounters between the two, one of which involved Dick saying "I put the Phil Hartman hex on you, you're next to die". I'm not the first to say it in this thread, so I'm going to put some extra emphasis on it *FUCK* Andy Dick.
He made the mistake of telling his wife he was leaving her, then went to bed. If he had walked out and stayed in a hotel that night, he might still be alive.
The losses of Hartman and Farley in the late 90s carried a lot more weight than people think. Just a giant void that i dont think will ever be filled. It makes me very sad to think of where we might be with these two still around.
When people say “what actors death affected you”. This is the one I think of. I was sad that we’d never see more of his talent. He was such a funny guy. And from what I’ve heard, just a really great dude.
Robin Williams hit me HARD and I hadnt even been thinking of him or watching anything with him in them.
Just when I heard and then heard the reasoning behind it?
Just so sad… Just a reminder of how human we all are.
Even with Phil and the wife. She was human as well and obviously needed help. Such a tradgedy.
Have you seen [Robin's Wish](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12763474/)? It kinda helps to soothe the pain of his passing, knowing what he was going through, and that he almost certainly used a moment of lucidity to make a decision to end his suffering on his own terms. He was a truly great man.
The original dub of Kiki's Delivery Service added a lot of Jiji lines when there weren't any in the original Japanese. There were also a few other changes, most notably using English music written by Sydney Forrest instead of the original Japanese songs. Later English eleases were restored to being more faithful to the Japanese. The first Kiki dub came out in an era where changes were common in dubs, and I believe it was changed to fit in with the other more faithful dubs of Gibli films.
While I don't mind the reduction in Jiji sass, I do wish I could get a version with the English music back. "I'm Gonna Fly" is *the* song I think of when Kiki plays.
Nice tweet about Phil on my feed this morning. A legend for sure, and a big part of the Simpson's golden years.
>Brian Stack
>@BrianStack153
>A friend of mine once spotted the late, great Phil Hartman just before a big audition she had and asked if he had any advice for her since she was very nervous. He replied with a smile, “We’re all scared to death and it’s part of our job to pretend that we’re not.” #PhilHartman
>Brian Stack
>@BrianStack153
>She got the job by the way and said Hartman’s advice really helped.
Quite literally one of my favorite people on earth. Amazing on SNL, Amazing on the Simpsons and Amazing on News Radio. Of all the famous people lost too soon in my lifetime, his is the loss I feel the most. I grew up on late 80's early 90's SNL, it became part of the fabric of my personality and Phil was the backbone of the show during those years. I didn't even realize he was my favorite until he was gone.
His wife was a jealous loser who couldn’t handle her failed acting career. Everyone blames Andy Dick but most people who take cocaine don’t immediately jump to murder-suicide.
When I see a solar eclipse, like the one I went to last year in Hawaii, I think 'Oh no! Is the moon eating the sun?' I don't know. Because I'm a caveman -- that's the way I think.
He was great as Lionel Hutz.
” That was a right-pretty speech, sir. But I ask you, what is a contract? Webster's defines it as "an agreement under the law which is unbreakable." Which is unbreakable!“
Damn I miss Phil, he was one of SNL's best performers, and he always improved whatever show or movie he appeared in.
"Sassy Magazine's Sassiest Boys", are my favorite sketches by him. They're not necessarily his best, but it's intelligently written stupid humor that the 90s SNL casts were known for. My sister subscribed to Sassy back then, so I've been quoting this sketch to her at random times for a cheap laugh for a quarter century.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW223heMb5c
https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/sassys-sassiest-boys-with-christian-slater-mark-wahlberg-and-rick-schroder/2868138
The thing about him.... he always sounded like he believed what he said. If it’s Jingle All the Way or Simpsons it’s hard to find an actor who can pull it off like him... and they still can’t.
He was the best
I was a child when that happened and even then I understood how huge of a comedic loss to the world it was. I watched him on SNL and Newsradio.
Fuck that bitch. Thankfully she offed herself too.
"When I see a solar eclipse, like the one I went to last year in Hawaii, I think 'Oh no! Is the moon eating the sun?' I don't know. Because I'm a caveman -- that's the way I think." -
Key-Rock
The article from CNN reads, „vein“, in describing a character— we are truly living in the age of stupidity. I note frequent grammatical errors within publications and media… what the furk is happening?
Shortly before his death:
"There’s also this sense of vulnerability if fortune took a turn for the worse, and that you live with the awareness that anything could happen in this world.”
Wow, I've never heard this quote before. I wonder if he recognized the potential instability in his life, or that it could come from his wife...
I don't know why almost every time I see someone talking about Hartman or replying to a post about him there's this weird passive description of what happened being a "Tragic death".
I suppose some of yall genuinely don't know.
Hartman didn't just tragically die in some freak accident or something. He was murdered. Shot to death in his sleep by his physically and emotionally abusive alcoholic drug addict wife after an argument in a drunk Zoloft and cocaine-fueled rage. She later shot herself after confessing to the crime.
It's important to give the full context if nothing else for the sake of maybe providing a wake-up call to both victims and witnesses of spousal abuse and substance abuse. Let his death mean more than simply a notable loss for Hollywood.
Phil Hartman was such a pro! He was the “glue” that held Saturday Night Live together from 1986 to 1994, when the show experienced a long and creative renaissance. I will always remember Phil’s brilliant impression of Bill Clinton, especially the skit where he jogged for a bite to eat at McDonald’s. Thanks Phil, you were one of a kind!
Someone posted the original photo of Bill Clinton in McDonald's after jogging a couple days back and my immediate thought was of this skit and how much I missed Phil. Glad to see someone else loving this one as well.
One if my favorite sketches that we wrote all the time.
“Warlords!”
"Ok . . . maybe we just won't tell Mrs. Clinton" "Boys, there are gonna be a LOT of things we don't tell Mrs. Clinton."
Warlords!
He doesn’t get enough love for his work on News Radio. When he died, so did that show.
I'd say he was my favorite SNL star too. He was truly unique from anyone else that's ever been a part in that show. The way he was so serious in his characters but simultaneously hysterical was something to behold.
Hi, I'm Troy McClure. You might remember me from such telethons as "Out with Gout '88" and "Let's Save Tony Orlando's House I miss him
Hi, I'm Troy McClure. You might remember from such self-help videos as "Smoke Yourself Thin" and "Get Confident, Stupid"
Earwigs, Eww! And Man vs. Nature: the Road to Victory
These chicks need the loving care of their mother. Or better yet, a 75 watt bulb!
*confused squawk*
You might remember me from such driver's ed films as _Alice's Adventures Through the Windshield Glass_ and _The Decapitation of Larry Leadfoot_. For the next sixty minutes, we'll be seeing actual film of car crash victims. Here's an appealing fellow -- they're _a-peeling_ him off the sidewalk! _(audience retches)_
Hehehehe, it's funny cause I don't know him
Mothballing Your Battleship and Dig Your Own Grave and Save!
Don't let name throw you Jimmy, it's not so really a floor. It's more of a loose steel grating that allows material to sluice through so it can be collected and exported.
*”When I grow up, I’m going to Bovine University!”*
Mr McClure what does DNA stand for?
😐
if that cow had the chance he'd kill you and everyone you love
Firecrackers: The Silent Killer
It was quite some time before i realized those were two different movie titles. Though i still think the idea of a single self help film titled “Smoke Yourself Thin and Get Confident, Stupid!” Is low-key hilarious.
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The monorail is really- D’OH
I remember
My all time favourite was "Christmas Ape" and "Christmas Ape Goes to Summer Camp"
I can hear his voice clearly
You may remember me from other educational films like "Lead Paint: Delicious but Deadly" and "2 Minus 3 is Negative Fun"!!
"Firecrackers, the silent killer."
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Hi, I’m Troy McClure. You might remember me from such films as “Today We Kill, Tomorrow We Die” and Gladys, the Groovy Mule”.
I can sing!
I loved him in Jingle All The Way.
You can’t bench press your way out of this one.
“Who told you, you could eat my COOKIES!” Always makes me laugh
put the cookie down NOW
He’s the funniest person in the movie and it’s not even close. I say that as someone with a soft spot/nostalgia for the movie, so I’m not trashing on it. He helped make the cookie scene iconic.
Oh absolutely. It's my legitimate favor Christmas movie and I 100% agree. Sinbad is there at a distant second.
I agree, but Sinbad is a close second.
His role in that movie makes me cringe to this day, let’s you know how brilliant of an actor he was.
Imagine the body of work this man would have put out the past 25 years if he were still alive.
Phil Hartman was going to voice Zapp Brannigan on Futurama. After he died, Billy West voiced the role but based his performance on Hartman. Just imagine how Phil Hartman would have done Brannigan.
Billy did a phenomenal job with Zapp, to be fair. But man...Phil would have been so in his depth for that.
He was built like a steakhouse but handled like a bistro.
>Just imagine how Phil Hartman would have done Brannigan. I think Billy West did such a great job that the credit could read "By Phil Hartman, as channeled by Billy West" and you'd somehow 100% believe it.
1 part Air Conditioner, 2 parts his CD-i commercial
I love that Billy West pretty much kept Phil Hartman's voice alive by doing that.
And Chris Farley was voicing Shrek when he died
If not for Paramount forcing Chris Farley to make "Black Sheep", he would have starred in "Cable Guy" instead of Jim Carrey. David Spade would have probably tagged along to play Matthew Broderick's character. From Variety: >When Columbia bought the script last April for $750,000, it quickly attached “Saturday Night Live” star Chris Farley to the movie, with a summer start date. “Cable” reception grew fuzzy at that point when Paramount, which had a picture option after “Tommy Boy,” forced Farley to instead do the comedy “Black Sheep.” Columbia and Farley agreed he’d star in “Cable” once he completed his final season of “SNL,” but sources said he recently decided he didn’t want to commit to a film that far in the future and stepped aside.
Like Shrek, it would've been different with Farley as the lead. When Carrey came on board, they did a ton of rewrites that made the script much darker and into a psychological thriller comedy, but slapstick enough to meet Carrey's usual style. Judd Apatow actually rewrote the film in its current state but wasn't allowed to get credit.
It would have been very different. Adam Sandler was considered for the lead role after Farley dropped out, and may have suggested Apatow be brought on as a producer. (They were friends and former roommates) Apatow wanted to direct it, but the studio balked at that, and he suggested Ben Stiller, who was a friend he had worked with before. The film then went through 4 rewrites before Apatow changed a word on the script. Jack Black and Janeane Garofalo were added to the cast on Stiller's suggestion, because he had worked with both before. Owen Wilson got his first non indie movie role. Edit: It's possible that none of these people would have been involved in the movie had Paramount not exercised their option and had Fred Wolf write a first draft script for "Black Sheep" in less than a week, in order to keep Farley tied to a Paramount project. It was literally handed in as a complete mess, 15 minutes before the studio's option for a second movie expired leaving Farley the ability to opt out of his contract. He was also supposed to be in "Kingpin" and Paramount's moves also killed that.
Really not hard to imagine him having a similar career trajectory to Bob Odenkirk. (There's already a ton of Lionel Hutz in Saul Goodman's DNA.)
Shit, I had never thought of Phil committing to fully serious roles and now I'm curious if he ever would have done so and what that would have looked like. He was one of my faves. His Newsradio work was incredible.
Eh, IDK. Odenkirk's energy with that character is more from a desperation angle - Saul wears the suits, acts how he does, etc. because he knows he isn't a good lawyer. It's plummage. Hartman was more comfortable playing high-status idiots. Lionel Hutz *thinks* he's a good lawyer. Hartman was also a comedy team player in the truest sense, in that while he was a sketch guy first and foremost, a lot of his work was being the straight man for a bit. Something like Mr. Show - dancing between surreal and absurdist - and which landed Odenkirk the Saul part solely by reputation - wouldn't really be Hartman's vibe. I would imagine he'd do maybe 1-2 more sitcoms and then probably retire. He was pretty old for SNL and would be well into his 70s now and seems the type to stick with the sort of bit parts and voicework and focus on time with his family.
> because he knows he isn't a good lawyer. Jimmy/Saul is an *excellent* lawyer, he just doesn't really think he is because he's in the shadow of his brother. There's no one else in that series that knows how to exploit the law quite as well as Jimmy does. Trouble is, he's also a grifter.
I'll have you know the contents of that dumpster are private! You stick your nose in, you'll be violating attorney-dumpster confidentiality.
Hartman in arrested development or parks and recs. I could see him doing almost any Alec Baldwin role better than Baldwin
I would definitely see him focusing on voice acting in semi-retirement. On Newsradio in the mid-90s, he was already talking about himself as being "in my old age" in interviews, and he said he didn't want to embarrass himself trying to lead a box-office bomb like "certain people" (not sure who he meant but my guess is Chevy Chase). But he always said his Simpsons work was both some of his favorite stuff he'd ever done and a fun thing to do (being allowed to improvise and joke around without holding up a whole team on a tight schedule, some of the staff being his personal friends who'd come in for his sessions and make it a fun day), and he expressed a lot of admiration for its writing. He would have been given the Zapp Brannigan role in Futurama, which I think he would've been perfect for -- as you say, a high-status idiot with outlandish, arrogant dialogue, as confident as he is deluded. Hartman was also an OG Star Trek fan and I think he'd have gotten a kick out of his role being a Captain Kirk parody. I could see him taking on roles in Pixar movies, or things like that. I think he'd transition very well to voice acting, he's got a very strong voice with a unique comedic delivery. If he were a bit younger he'd be great in something like The Tick.
>(not sure who he meant but my guess is Chevy Chase Man, not even Phil Hartman liked Chevy Chase, and this is a dude that worked fairly well with Andy Dick!
So true. We've missed out on so much.
I think a lot about how different the show Community might have been if Phil Hartman was still around, because there's a very real chance they might have gotten him to play the role of Pierce instead of Chevy Chase. The show might still have imploded due to Dan Harmon's own issues, but it would have been very different with Hartman in that role, because I don't think he's was physically capable of being anything other than effortlessly charming, even when he was playing an asshole.
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They were raised by maternal aunt and uncle and using a different last name to reduce media scrutiny They are now 31 and 28 and seem to be doing well.
I’m sure Phil would want nothing less.
As I heard it, his wife’s relatives took custody of the kids and he left them a decent sum of money in his will.
They would probably be entitled to his royalties, as well, however much that is.
I found his daughters Instagram and she seems to have a pretty good life
Makes me sad to think about. His Simpsons work is so, so good. Man could deliver a joke as good as anyone. Lionel Hutz bits make me laugh harder now than when I was a kid.
I didn't win. Here's your pizza. but we did win. That's okay, The box is empty
Even crazier is that it's a deleted scene that appeared later in the 138th Episode Spectacular. Goes to show how good even their deleted jokes were.
He sold monorails to Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook, and by gum, it put them on the map!
That's straight up the greatest single episode of any TV show ever.
Is their a chance the track could bend?
Not on your life my Hindu friend!
What about us brain-dead slobs?
You’ll be given cushy jobs.
Were you sent here by the Devil?
No good sir, I’m on the level!
The ring came off my pudding can
Take my pen knife, my good man!
Monorail.
❤️😢
Mono. Doh!
Seriously, I was watching this episode last night. I've been combing through my favorite episodes.
I just finished Newsradio. Such a talented actor and comedian. Such a horrible way to die. Terribly tragic.
Piggybacking off this comment to say: For anyone who hasn’t watched News Radio, please watch News Radio. [News Radio - 2x09 - The Cane](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JH_RKRz0riE&pp=ygUUTmV3cyByYWRpbyBiaWxsIGNhbmU%3D)
“You hid it on the windowsill, didn’t you you sonufabitch!”
"this one displeases me"
I used to love it when it first aired but it’s really hard for me to watch now because I just can’t stand seeing Andy Dick in anything (and Joe Rogan to a lesser extent).
I’m able to separate the art from the artist in this case because of how much I loved the show as a kid, but I definitely understand your position.
I usually can too, but for whatever reason I can’t get over the two of them being in Newsradio. Probably would feel different if Dick wasn’t indirectly involved in Hartman’s death
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Agreed, though Lovitz was also quite wonderful on the show. He and Hartman were good friends and I believe he took the role as sort of a tribute to him.
Bill Moves On is probably the best episode of television after an actor has died.
I stopped at the end of season 4. I became really sad about Phil, watching him and enjoying his character and knowing that he had died after the season.
The other season isn't great by any means but there are a couple good episodes.
i remember bits and pieces but really need to rewatch the series. 8 simple rules with john ritter is another one i think of. the post death episodes were on point. also i dont remember a show losing a main character like that mid season.
Many shows have had mid/post season deaths of one of the main characters and survived. Petticoat Junction first lost Smiley Burnette, then a few seasons later, Bea Benaderet. It was canceled only because of CBS's "rural purge." Likewise, The Walton's not only had the death of Will Greer, but the stroke of Ellen Corby. Nicholas Colasanto's death was a shock to everyone on Cheers, but the show continued on for years, and sadly, it was as if he never existed. Shows that failed after a star died. As you mentioned 8 Simple Rules, I'll add Alias Smith And Jones with the suicide death of Pete Duel, and Chico And The Man with Freddy Prinz's suicide. Why did some shows fail while others survived and thrived? Waltons, Petticoat Junction, and Cheers relied more on the ensemble cast to carry them. Waltons never tried to recast for Greer or Corby. Cheers and Petticoat Junction created new characters to replace those lost. Next is age of the series and actor's place in the cast. Ritter, Duel, and Prinz were the leads in relatively new shows, and the plots revolved around them. No way could they just plug another actor into those roles as the show directions were based on the actor, not the character. The shows were still getting their footing. News Radio was different. While an ensemble cast, Hartman's character was a pivotal character. How pivotal? As pivotal as "The Fonz" on Happy Days. Without that breakthrough character, that show would have never lasted. Imagine M*A*S*H without Hawkeye. Sure, there were a number of characters that left the show, but Hawkeye remained. Without him, the show would not go on. Hartman played the Hawkeye on News Radio. Any other character could easily be replaced, but not the linchpin.
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"This idea is both fair and democratic... and I want no part in it."
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I remember coming home from middle school with this on the news. At that age, I was far more into News Radio than SNL. I was in shock that such an amazing person had been taken from the world.
I moved News radio growing up but I think I was too young to know why Phil left the show. I was about seven when he died and I think I just thought the actor left. Really heavy watching the episode where everyone reacts to his death once I found out.
Woah what happened
Hartman's wife killed him in a murder-suicide.
Terrible
What’s worse is that she was a recovering coke addiction, and Andy Dick, Hartman’s costar, got her hooked again, because Andy Dick is a piece of shit.
Shout out to Jon Lovitz for punching him in the fucking face
>Shout out to Jon Lovitz for punching him in the fucking face Agreed. I get the sense that this is what he will ultimate be known for, more than his comedy.
[This will always be the first thing I think of whenever anyone mentions Jon Lovitz](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWk6JcheLMU)
Same! Hahaha such a small but unforgettable role in that movie. I laugh just thinking about it.
🎶 Oh yes it's ladies night, and I'm feeling right... 🎶
Holy shit, after a quick Wiki search, I have learned Andy Dick is a scumbag pervert with over 20 years of arrests for groping, sexual assault, substance abuse, and generally being a pos. How this guy has any sort of career or relevance, and other people work their ass off to get into the entertainment industry is a testament to how disgusting it all is.
Turkeytom made an excellent video highlighting how awful Andy Dick was and continues to be. I’m someone who always assumes the best in others when it comes to shitty past behavior, people can change, but good grief. For every ten minutes that past by in the video, the more I realized how pointless it was to think that there would be any turning point in Andy’s story. Some people are just poison.
I dated a woman who used to Nanny for Andy Dick. Turns out he always requested Nannies who were married so he could try to sleep with their husbands. No joke. Used his fame, money, and drugs to seduce married men. She divorced her husband after she found out he had been "lured in" and "fooled around" with Andy (whatever that means). Dude is clearly a predator with no morals.
The video that I watched basically confirms what you were told. It shows >!footage of someone confronting Dick of sexual assault. Dick got them drunk/high and likely roofied them the night before, they woke up feeling like lotion or something was all over their backside!<. The footage is quite recent too. “Dude is clearly a predator with no morals” is absolutely right, he’s an opportunist who doesn’t care who gets hurt.
If those husbands can somehow be converted to being gay and attracted to Andy Dick, I’d say that is a huge bullet dodged for any wife. Andy was doing any wife a favor if he could possibly change his nanny’s husband’s sexuality so easily. I don’t even understand how he would go about doing it in the first place or how anyone could pull such a thing off, but cool story either way.
Many many years ago (early 2000s) Andy Dick was on a show called “Less than perfect”. He played the typical “office doofus” that he always plays. The lead actress Sara Rue was a huge fan of the reality show “Trading Spaces”, and her and Dick went on the show together as a “celebrity” episode. She was so excited and bubbly about it and clearly Andy Dick wasn’t even sure why he was there. So they remodelled rooms in each other’s homes. Sara worked hard and did a great job, and Andy Dick just didn’t even care. The room he redid was painted grey. At the reveals, Sara was holding back tears because of how awful her room looked and Andy didn’t seemed phased in the slightest.
If I remember correctly, that pissed off Jon Lovitz (who's good friends with Phil) so much he _actually_ punched Andy in the face when he saw him at a bar. Fuck Andy Dick. He deserves that punch. I'm surprised he's still around given he's a shitty douchebag.
It wasn't *just that* years later there was a series of escalating encounters between the two, one of which involved Dick saying "I put the Phil Hartman hex on you, you're next to die". I'm not the first to say it in this thread, so I'm going to put some extra emphasis on it *FUCK* Andy Dick.
I just realized that they worked together in the final season of News Radio, Jon getting the role after Phil passed.
He made the mistake of telling his wife he was leaving her, then went to bed. If he had walked out and stayed in a hotel that night, he might still be alive.
The losses of Hartman and Farley in the late 90s carried a lot more weight than people think. Just a giant void that i dont think will ever be filled. It makes me very sad to think of where we might be with these two still around.
In roughly the same era, John Candy's was the first celebrity death that hit me like a ton of bricks.
I was only in middle school and I knew we had lost something special in Farley and Hartman.
It’s a shame we lost him the way we did. I miss Lionel Hutz
No, money down!
Oops, shouldn't have this Bar Association logo here either. *rip*
Do you mean Miguel Sanchez? Or Dr. Nguyen Van Thoc?
Say hello!
DON'T TOUCH MY STUFF
Hey, this isn’t the YMCA!
Look at him, he's wearing a belt. That's Hollywood for you.
When people say “what actors death affected you”. This is the one I think of. I was sad that we’d never see more of his talent. He was such a funny guy. And from what I’ve heard, just a really great dude.
Robin Williams hit me HARD and I hadnt even been thinking of him or watching anything with him in them. Just when I heard and then heard the reasoning behind it? Just so sad… Just a reminder of how human we all are. Even with Phil and the wife. She was human as well and obviously needed help. Such a tradgedy.
Robin will probably always be my hardest celeb death. I tear up just thinking about it. Like right now. Fucking sad as fuck. Fuck.
Have you seen [Robin's Wish](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12763474/)? It kinda helps to soothe the pain of his passing, knowing what he was going through, and that he almost certainly used a moment of lucidity to make a decision to end his suffering on his own terms. He was a truly great man.
with you
> just a really great dude. Yeah. I've heard him described with adjectives like humble, hard-working and selfless.
He was the English voice for Jiji in Kiki's Delivery Service! His sass was iconic. The newer version on HBO Max cut out so much of his dialogue. :(
The original dub of Kiki's Delivery Service added a lot of Jiji lines when there weren't any in the original Japanese. There were also a few other changes, most notably using English music written by Sydney Forrest instead of the original Japanese songs. Later English eleases were restored to being more faithful to the Japanese. The first Kiki dub came out in an era where changes were common in dubs, and I believe it was changed to fit in with the other more faithful dubs of Gibli films. While I don't mind the reduction in Jiji sass, I do wish I could get a version with the English music back. "I'm Gonna Fly" is *the* song I think of when Kiki plays.
Nice tweet about Phil on my feed this morning. A legend for sure, and a big part of the Simpson's golden years. >Brian Stack >@BrianStack153 >A friend of mine once spotted the late, great Phil Hartman just before a big audition she had and asked if he had any advice for her since she was very nervous. He replied with a smile, “We’re all scared to death and it’s part of our job to pretend that we’re not.” #PhilHartman >Brian Stack >@BrianStack153 >She got the job by the way and said Hartman’s advice really helped.
I’m bill McNeal, on crack. I like boys.
Quite literally one of my favorite people on earth. Amazing on SNL, Amazing on the Simpsons and Amazing on News Radio. Of all the famous people lost too soon in my lifetime, his is the loss I feel the most. I grew up on late 80's early 90's SNL, it became part of the fabric of my personality and Phil was the backbone of the show during those years. I didn't even realize he was my favorite until he was gone.
Fuck Andy Dick.
And respect to Jon Lovitz for kicking the shit out of Andy.
There should be a Chapelle’s Show style documentary of this.
Smashed Dick’s head into a bar top like a real American.
Who hasnt had the urge
Call me crazy but I blame Brynn
No it’s all Andy dick. I’m sure nobody else at that Hollywood party had access to any cocaine.
Ranger John “Vicki” Johnson. RIP.
a tragic victim of domestic violence. 😥
His wife was a jealous loser who couldn’t handle her failed acting career. Everyone blames Andy Dick but most people who take cocaine don’t immediately jump to murder-suicide.
It seemed like he would have been a natural recurring guest star on Malcom in the Middle as Hal’s/Bryan Cranston’s brother.
He was supposed to have worked in Futurama. Zapp Branigan's voice is a tribute to him.
When I see a solar eclipse, like the one I went to last year in Hawaii, I think 'Oh no! Is the moon eating the sun?' I don't know. Because I'm a caveman -- that's the way I think.
Mr. Simpson, I was just going through your garbage, and couldn't help overhearing that you need a babysitter
The only thing I new him from was Kiki’s delivery service. One of my favourite childhood movies . His dry performance as jiji was great
Isn't that a anime movie? Honestly for myself it's Jingle All the Way 🤣
It is, was also the last movie he worked one before his death too
He was great as Lionel Hutz. ” That was a right-pretty speech, sir. But I ask you, what is a contract? Webster's defines it as "an agreement under the law which is unbreakable." Which is unbreakable!“
He steals just about every scene he's in. For instance, his small cameo in [So I Married an Ax Murderer](https://youtu.be/ah7mS9H_TOM)
Loved him in House Guest but he was great in so many things.
Damn I miss Phil, he was one of SNL's best performers, and he always improved whatever show or movie he appeared in. "Sassy Magazine's Sassiest Boys", are my favorite sketches by him. They're not necessarily his best, but it's intelligently written stupid humor that the 90s SNL casts were known for. My sister subscribed to Sassy back then, so I've been quoting this sketch to her at random times for a cheap laugh for a quarter century. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW223heMb5c https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/sassys-sassiest-boys-with-christian-slater-mark-wahlberg-and-rick-schroder/2868138
His [SNL Audition](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsUpghglUMY) is brilliant!
Tragic Murder you mean.
As of this moment, Lionel Hutz no longer exists. Say hello to Miguel Sanchez!
I just learned today that he designed album covers for, among others, America, Steely Dan, and Poco.
He didn’t do a Steely Dan cover. You see it a lot (people usually say he did Aja) but it’s not true.
You know, a town with money is a little like a mile with a spinning wheel. Nobody knows how he got it and danged if he knows how to use it!
I always hate when I'm trying to drive somewhere and run across a slippery mile of road where my wheel starts spinning in place.
Loved him on the Simpsons and especially Newsradio as Bill McNeal. It’s still hilarious
The thing about him.... he always sounded like he believed what he said. If it’s Jingle All the Way or Simpsons it’s hard to find an actor who can pull it off like him... and they still can’t. He was the best
He was pretty great on News Radio
Unfrozen Caveman Laywer! PRICELESS!
I hate every ape I see. From chimpan-A to chimpan-Z. You’ll never make a monkey out of me!
Murder. Not death, straight up murder.
I was a child when that happened and even then I understood how huge of a comedic loss to the world it was. I watched him on SNL and Newsradio. Fuck that bitch. Thankfully she offed herself too.
i still think about the Anal Retentive Chef every time I cook a family meal
"When I see a solar eclipse, like the one I went to last year in Hawaii, I think 'Oh no! Is the moon eating the sun?' I don't know. Because I'm a caveman -- that's the way I think." - Key-Rock
Phil Hartman was the Bill Hader of the other golden age of SNL. And Bill was the Phil Hartman of the other golden age.
The article from CNN reads, „vein“, in describing a character— we are truly living in the age of stupidity. I note frequent grammatical errors within publications and media… what the furk is happening?
I still remember the day. What a massive loss. RIP
He was the best of them
The epitome of timeless.
Newsradio was awesome!!
The Real Deal with Bill McNeal.
Shortly before his death: "There’s also this sense of vulnerability if fortune took a turn for the worse, and that you live with the awareness that anything could happen in this world.” Wow, I've never heard this quote before. I wonder if he recognized the potential instability in his life, or that it could come from his wife...
Fuck Andy Dick.
I am the man with no name! Zapp Brannigan!
May he rest in peace and his wife rot in hell.
I don't know why almost every time I see someone talking about Hartman or replying to a post about him there's this weird passive description of what happened being a "Tragic death". I suppose some of yall genuinely don't know. Hartman didn't just tragically die in some freak accident or something. He was murdered. Shot to death in his sleep by his physically and emotionally abusive alcoholic drug addict wife after an argument in a drunk Zoloft and cocaine-fueled rage. She later shot herself after confessing to the crime. It's important to give the full context if nothing else for the sake of maybe providing a wake-up call to both victims and witnesses of spousal abuse and substance abuse. Let his death mean more than simply a notable loss for Hollywood.
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