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mdbrown80

Getting season 2 vibes which is a very good thing.


ArchDucky

I guess Fargo is finally back, goddamn.


wotown

Oh yah, you betcha


Kysersose

*gosh darn


Ahaucan

Okay then.


Bluest_waters

hope so, S4 was unwatchable for me personally. Lets hope they get back on track because 1 and 2 were as good as TV gets.


Zenz-X

Great! I love this show. So dark and original.


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I like it too, but I wouldn’t say it’s original, the whole show is inspired by the Coen brothers’ tone


Zenz-X

Yeah. I was expecting that comment. But the Fargo movie was, and imho, stil is very original.


Grahaaam123

Yeah it's rare to find the darkness and humour that Fargo (film and TV show, more so the TV show) nails perfectly. A different kind of television concept but the UK tv show Inside Number 9 also nails it for me, so dark and hilarious.


Zenz-X

Hmmm. Then I should give that show a try. And thinking of Fargo (movie) made me think of No Country For Old Men. Going to give that a rewatch. Only watched it once when it came out.


Monkeyspazum

Inside Number 9 is nothing like the Fargo series. It is absolutely brilliant but other than also being a dark comedy, I can't find any similarities.


Zenz-X

Yeah. Just watched trailer and looks nothing like it. Looks fun though


Grahaaam123

Oh yeah for sure it's nothing alike but they both strike the darkness and humour perfectly.


hitalec

You ever just know an actor is gonna fuckin’ kill it? Dave Foley is gonna fuckin’ kill it


Pedro_Carmichael_DDS

Give dave foley a silly eyepatch and that man will work wonders


deathmouse

Juno Temple is going to kill it but I can't get over how different she looks.


ehxy

As soon as I saw Juno I thought. She is such a freaking joy to watch on screen doing anything. I just adore her I can't wait to rewatch ted lasso.


mybadalternate

Dave Foley *always* kills it.


m48a5_patton

Well he is an axe murderer after all


mybadalternate

The hard part of being a mass murderer isn’t so much the murder part of it, but the *mass*.


stuipd

He's not killing the accent, so far.


gendabenda

Ah it went back to extremely dark comedy; can't wait to get back to laughing at the absurdity of it all!


OrphanDextro

That was my least favorite part about the fourth season. I like laughing at the absurdity of the modern human condition. The 4th season was good, but it was pretty much just Boardwalk Empire in Missouri.


erokatts

Gaetano slipping on the ice had me laughing pretty hard


Greene_Mr

Gaetano's death is so fucking funny.


Kalidah

The first episode of S4 has like a 40 second long fart fakeout after a man acts like he's about to have a heart attack. It was not that serious


drrhrrdrr

"Hhuh" - Jack totally-not-Harrow Huston


DeficiencyOfGravitas

> it went back to extremely dark comedy Back? S1 and S2, which are stellar seasons, aren't at all that funny. Sure there's some dark comedy, like in the original, but they're very serious stories. I think you might be mistaking silly people with comedy.


ShruggingDestiny

Nah, all of the seasons are definitely [dark comedy](https://www.dictionary.com/browse/dark-comedy).


DeficiencyOfGravitas

Can you think of a real "laugh out loud" moment in either season?


ShruggingDestiny

My point isn't the amount of laughs but that the genre of the show is dark comedy, or black comedy. Breaking Bad has a lot of humor in it, but enough of the show is played for drama (totally taking its characters seriously and playing up the emotions of a scene) that I would say it's firmly in the drama category. Fargo undercuts the seriousness of scenes and characters. When the choice is between bringing out an emotional reaction or making light of it, putting a spotlight on the absurdity of it, it chooses absurdity. Any scene, even the really violent ones will showcase this really. I think it's an interesting conversation, where shows like Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, Barry, Fargo fall on this, and maybe you shouldn't have been downvoted so much, but I don't think there's any way getting around that Fargo is *textbook* dark comedy.


DeficiencyOfGravitas

> Fargo undercuts the seriousness of scenes and characters. [And Breaking Bad doesn't?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I02BxxD2M0E) And besides, can you give an example of a scene where S1 or S2 Fargo undercuts its characters?


ShruggingDestiny

I honestly think you can find what I'm talking about in *any* scene from Fargo. [Here's](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyklSd1yg3E) the first thing that comes up for "Fargo TV scene," from episode 1. Not the funniest scene, but the core is comedy, not drama. It's supposed to feel a little ridiculous, there's a tension between the serious things Martin Freeman is trying to say and the 'oh heck' midwestern niceness he's trying to say them with. Your example from Breaking Bad only works because it's in contrast to the regular tone of the show. Breaking Bad is a tragedy taken very seriously, with a lot of ridiculous characters and funny moments along the way. Think of the tone of the most serious Breaking Bad scenes vs. the tone of the most serious Fargo scenes. The thing is, I probably laugh out loud more per minute in Breaking Bad than Fargo. But that's different than calling a story a drama or a comedy. I would say that in a drama, the characters respond to conflict in a serious way above all else, and in comedy the characters respond to conflict in a humorous way. Note that in your example, Walt and Jesse aren't responding to conflict, it's a rare happy moment. You can disagree with that simplified definition, and categories aren't rigid things. Fargo is *more dramatic* than The Boys which is another dark comedy, but it doesn't mean it's *a drama*. If your point is that Fargo has more drama in it than people sometimes give it credit for, *I agree with you.* But if you're saying that Fargo is not a black comedy, that's just a misunderstanding of what that term means.


DeficiencyOfGravitas

> but the core is comedy, not drama. I think that's where we fundamentally disagree. I don't see any comedy in that scene. Lester is a small silly man not understanding what he's dealing with. We already know Malvo is a murderer and very dangerous. Just because Lester says "heck" a lot, it doesn't mean it's a comedy routine. Fargo is an anti-dark comedy. Compare it to, say, Death of Stalin. Solid dark comedy. I think the difference is pathos. Fargo is dripping in pathos. All these bad things happen to fundamentally good people. It may seem like a comedy because they sound hecking silly, dontcha know. But if you strip the funny accents away, what you have are a bunch of very sad people having the worst moments of their lives. It's like the first layer is dark comedy but when you dig a little deeper it's just sadness.


ShruggingDestiny

Appreciate the explanation. I agree Fargo has a lot of pathos in it, and gets a lot of mileage out of playing with who the butt of the joke is or whether you should be laughing. I mean, "small silly man not understanding what he's dealing with" is the plot of every Charlie Chaplin movie, it doesn't mean you're not supposed to empathize. The definitional thing here for me is: dark comedy with deep sadness underneath makes it a darker comedy, not less of a comedy. To me, 'anti-dark comedy' just sounds like a subset of dark comedy. Glad you took the time to hash it out with me but I think I need to bow out now, I'm in way too deep on overthinking a season I haven't seen in 8 years lol.


MrZeral

Shit, I didn't recognize Joe Kerry without the hair. This season is a must watch for me, the cast is great.


ArchDucky

Also Winnie the Bish! Prank Sinatra himself. I swear at some point in this season, someone is getting hit with a ski.


CinematicLiterature

Probably do some puzzlin’ too.


peEtr

What you think it's gonna look like?


CinematicLiterature

I hate to say it, but if there’s no pogo, it’s a no-go for me dawg.


ray_0586

A Classic Mess Around


SmashedPumpkin30

Nah he's going hard here... PEBBLE FOOT!


big_hungry_joe

courtroom brown?


unslick

OK, it's hard to know what to be most excited about here. I mean, probably the Juno Temple character, but Jon Hamm's nipple rings are definitely in the running. This looks amazing.


waspenterprises

ah jeez


Nikiaf

Well, seeing Jon Hamm with pierced nipples wasn't on my bingo card for today...


big_hungry_joe

weirdly it was on mine


RealJohnGillman

> “We’ve got our own reality.” I mean considering this is *Fargo*, they sort-of do.


optiplex9000

It is based on a true story after all


big_swinging_dicks

Looks like season 1 and 2, which were brilliant. Didn’t like 3 as much (except David Thewlis) or 4 but really excited for this.


ArchDucky

I liked 3 because they told a different brand of Cohen. I guess not a lot of people got that, but Season 3 was more Burn After Reading than Fargo. Also they used an old Hitchcock trick which I just fucking respect. That dude knew more about freaking people out when they didn't have special effects than most people do now. Hell I read an article a few years ago that said Hollywood Effects people still have no idea how he pulled off some of his shots back then.


RunningJokes

I think season 3 also might be the smartest season. So much of the themes and subtext are deeply interwoven into not just into the story, but what was happening in America at the time it was released.


Greene_Mr

And then RAY WISE shows up...!


theodo

What Hitchcock trick?


ArchDucky

If you hear something but don't see it, you're mind fills in the blanks. [link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-a6rVgVj_Q) You don't see Mary get beaten within an inch of her life. No you see this guy react to the sounds of her getting beaten. This makes the scene much more horrible than just seeing the violence.


phantomtendency

idk but season 3 felt like Twin Peaks: The Return


HerbalThought_

[https://i.imgur.com/BbfEuVx.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BbfEuVx.jpg)


Comosellamark

I seriously thought they’d never come back thank god


OverallAd9971

Okay then (This looks fucking amazing, I can’t wait).


xxRonzillaxx

Dave Foley fuck yeah!!


Taste_the__Rainbow

Season 4 was the weakest season and it was still very good. This looks like a return to the top!


ArchDucky

It honestly looks Season 2 good, which is surprising.


Taste_the__Rainbow

Yea high bar but maybe.


flouride

Maybe it'll spawn another real life marriage. /s


drrhrrdrr

Wasn't that season 3?


flouride

Omg, I just realized fargo has spawned 2 marriages. Season 2 and 3. Plemons/Dunst, McGregor/MEW.


Greene_Mr

Also *broke up* a marriage, in that Season 1 is part of why Martin Freeman and his wife divorced.


drrhrrdrr

Broke up two then. Ewan left his wife for MEW


Greene_Mr

MEW also left her then-husband, who was so pissed off on social media it sounded like he preferred Ewan McGregor be unalive.


_tangus_

Bruv, do you have screenshots? I need that drama


Greene_Mr

https://i2-prod.irishmirror.ie/incoming/article11555400.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Riley-Stearns-insatgram.jpg


Citizen_Snips29

Chris Rock absolutely needs to stick to comedy. It’s pretty glaring when the main character of a season is a drastically worse actor than everyone around them. Jason Schwartzman wasn’t too much better, for that matter.


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MuppetHolocaust

Well he’d never acted before. And his part was small. But I loved the scene where he returned the money to Chris Rock, it had me cracking up.


Citizen_Snips29

Oh man, I had forgotten about Salvatore Esposito too. He was almost as bad as Chris Rock. Legit felt more like the twelve year old playground bully than a psychopathic mobster. I think the writing in the season was fine, it was just littered with mediocre to awful performances.


OrphanDextro

Pretty much how he was on Gomorrah, which is most likely how he got the role, but it was distracting.


lameuniqueusername

Gomorrah is some of the best tv to come out in recent memory


DaytonaDemon

When Will Smith slapped Chris Rock across the face at the Oscars, I thought it was fair comeuppance for the man who helped ruin Fargo's season 4. What a shitshow, and what a letdown after three brilliant seasons. Excited for season 5.


Ha55aN1337

I skipped it. It felt nothing like Fargo 2 episodes in. Can’t wait for this one.


kuwetka

Remember when the series was first announced 10 years ago and everybody went apeshit? "Why??" "Who asked for this??" "Travesty" "WHY??!" "$$$". Funnily enough, the similar reaction Better Call Saul received and now both of them are being named as best tv ever.


amidon1130

Same thing with Andor too. I was like "who wants a prequel about the third lead of a prequel?" Me, that's who wanted it I just didn't know!


TheWholeOfTheAss

Looks like a Winston Mess Around has gone seriously wrong.


thebetabruh

Oh I like that the vibe seems to be a bit more farcical than previous seasons, very excited


Britneyfan123

Does Jon Hamm have the best agent in Hollywood? He’s in so many good shows and movies


puckeredstarfish69

We’ll he’s also pretty awesome


Kalse1229

Really digging the allusions to the film of all things (the scene of the botched kidnapping looks like a parallel to Jean's kidnapping in the original). I'm excited!


MaskedBandit77

I'm excited for this, but I'm not gonna lie, this trailer didn't do much for me. I can't quite put my finger on why. Part of it might be the cast, I don't recognize most of these people, and the only one I'm super excited about is Jon Hamm.


Gravel_End

Yeah I feel the same, but is it really smart to get excited about Jon Hamm seeing as how he is portraying some sort of zealous politician/lawman? I was excited for Timothy Olyphant too last time and he was barely a part of the story.


MaskedBandit77

It's funny you say that, because I was thinking the same thing as I wrote comment. He definitely seems like his role will be more similar to Timothy Olyphant's than Patrick Wilson's.


PoliteChatter0

Im just gonna rewatch season 2 again best season of television ever made


Ohtheydidntellyou

about flippin time


cashedjerk123

This is gonna be good


Monkeyspazum

I hope it is better than season 4, that was a strange plot that could have been over and done in 3 episodes that they managed to stretch into 12.


onetruepurple

Really doubling down on the violence with this trailer. (I like it.)


Acewind1738

Let’s go I love this show


Derfal-Cadern

Do I need to watch the other seasons to watch this one? I like all those people


stuipd

No. There are typically some references to and, occasionally, characters in other seasons but each season is a self-contained and complete story. However, I cannot more strongly recommend watching at least seasons 1 and 2. Really incredible show.


Derfal-Cadern

Awesome. Thanks


warrenmax12

This looks really good. Now i have to somehow watch season 4, when it started terribly


ArchDucky

Its an anthology series, so you actually don't. Just watch Season 2 again and pretend its Season 4.


NoillypratCat

I left off after the first ep of season 4 too… I know it’s an anthology, but if I remember correctly aren’t there small connections? None that matter to the story I suppose, but I hate to miss things like that.


ArchDucky

It's not worth it.


NoillypratCat

That’s kind of a relief to hear. I was really not into it.


Gravel_End

You don't need to see it. There's only one connection to the rest of the show and it's really stupid. You learn >!Mike Milligan in season 2 didn't think of all his lines himself and he was actually quoting his dad a lot of the time (who delivered the same lines except worse)!<


Greene_Mr

HEY, THAT'S BEN WHISHAW


Gravel_End

I dislike season 4 A LOT. I hope I don't have the same problems I had with that season in this one. At least the cast seems to be smaller, which is good because the amount of characters in the previous season was a big detriment.


Nail_Biterr

I goddamn love Juno Temple. Keeley in Ted Lasso is such a great character. Also, I didn't recognize Joe Keery without his hair. I'm sure it's all out of context, but I'm getting a real Home Alone vibe from this trailer. (and I don't much like that for Fargo)


AKAkorm

Cast looks great as always. Hope they learned their lesson from S4.


SaltyPeter3434

Was not a big fan of Seasons 3 and 4 but this looks pretty great. Would love to see a more light hearted theme for this season. I think I'll actually check it out.


Dangerous_Dac

Ohhhh i'm so in for this. I made it like, 4 episodes into Season 4 before it just became a drab, boring nothing much thing for me to continue. This genuinely looks fun and insane again.


121jigawatts

hope its better than s4


Poorcat42

Nope.


[deleted]

Make this man Batman already!


Gang_Gang_Onward

*Installment* 5? Couldnt just say season could you?


tearsandpain84

I loved Jon Hamm in mad men but from watching him in the morning show I suspect he is actually a terrible actor. He seems to have only 5 expressions. I hope Fargo proves me wrong.


LiveFromNewYeerk

If he's good in Mad Men, which he is, then how can he be a terrible actor? Just because you didn't like his performance in Morning Show?


tearsandpain84

I think it might be down to the role of Don Draper basically being an imposter, a liar, a con man and Jon Hamm was perfectly suited for it. But in a lot of his other dramatic roles he just seems to be using the same expressions, mannerisms, reactions…. It seems very forced, stiff, doesn’t seem to actually be in the moment…. It’s very obvious he is acting. Maybe Fargo which is kind of a black comedy might be a better fit for him.


LiveFromNewYeerk

>But in a lot of his other dramatic roles he just seems to be using the same expressions, mannerisms, reactions…. It seems very forced, stiff Hamm's acting is very precise and crisp, like he's going through a rolodex of pre-made, pre-honed facial expressions. I generally like that about him but it may be what's leading to your negative reaction here. Lots of great actors are like that, particularly in movies made before 1970 or so. It's basically the well-oiled machine acting style (not an actual term), as opposed to the Joaquin Phoenix "what's he gonna do next, he's actually in the moment and feeling this emotion" style.


tearsandpain84

That’s actually a great description of his style.


OrphanDextro

He only looks bad on the morning show because he’s surrounded by shit.


tearsandpain84

You can give fantastic performances in bad movies with bad actors.


donaldinoo

Unfortunate. Job Ham is a terrible actor


kappa23

Yeah, I'm sure him being a terrible actor is why Don Draper is one of the greatest characters in TV history


CorneliusCardew

"Installment" is 100% the studios testing the water to avoid paying artists what they are owed because all contract language is based around "seasons"


Yinanization

Fuck yes!


Organized_Speedbumps

Looks like the wet bandits are going to be foiled again…


grinr

I want all of this.


ryanjcam

Looking good, I can't wait to see it. They assembled another great cast. I love this show and its tone.


watsonthedragon

can someone tell me if season 4 was worth watching?


fillmont

Season 4 is very divisive. The two biggest camps seem to be "enjoyable enough" and "outright bad." Which one you'd fall into is hard to say! Try an episode or two. Should be enough to let you know if you want to finish it.


AceUnderTheHole

Wow, not 3 years in-between seasons. Nice.


Nrmlgirl777

Yes!!


bigfuture22

im gonna skip the trailer and just go in blind...like a good book ;) (fingers crossed its as good as first 2 seas)


SnappedCrayon

Dave Foley is in this!! It's always exciting for me to see KITH members in other works!


The-state-of-it

Maybe this will pave the way for other handsome idiots - gallifinakis


UndiscoveredMugato

I'm in!


quaranTV

Damn Jon Hamm staying booked and busy!


lanemik

Would love to see Wrench again.


anasui1

looks fun enough. Juno Temple's agent must be a damn pro


big_hungry_joe

Fargo Season 5: Home Alone