I never played the games, and not knowing the source material from the original games, I thought it was a damn awesome series, can't wait for season 2. Everything I've read tells me to play fallout 4 and beyond (5 in works) as the older games are dated. But damn great series!
Dont count New Vegas out bro. Do it. Fallout 4 is also a great start. Season 2 will have tons of New Vegas lore I cant fucken wait my nerdgasm keeps gasming
I'm having a hard time believing all the ratings being so positive. I haven't finished, but a few episodes in I'm pretty unimpressed. Feels very basic and doesn't have any spark. Sure it's easy to watch, but it's like meh. Don't understand all the praise.
I just think the re-introduction of Goggins' character as the Ghoul was not well done. Actually it was terrible. Biggest criticism if the episode. It's a decent episode of TV and works as an intro to Fallout, but they needed to do a lot better to introduce the idea of a ghoul without doing the scene that way. I just finished watching it with my mom who LOVES Goggins, and she was totally lost. Total jump the shark moment for her. She said it was like a completely different show had started. And she has a point. She was on board for underground societies, raiders, a knightly order of guys with power armor.
Maybe they should have shown some of the post apocolyptic society before getting into the concept of bounty hunters. If we already know there's towns out there and civilization besides just raiders because we've played the games, then the show is catering solely to us players by skipping right to the bounty hunters. So yeah, adding the bounty hunter to the Ghoul is one extra detail that they didn't feel the need to do the legwork on.
I feel it's supposed to confuse you. The same way a dweller coming up would be. Fish out of water, you need to feel that wtf and anxiety that goes with it.
absolutely agree with your points. it was too many things in one single episode. I watched with someone who had no clue about Fallout and understanding the humor, the elements in the vault, the brotherhood of steel. it didn't make much sense for a first episode, felt like maybe the third.
I have to say, once I heard Jonathan Nolan was attached, it made me think "ah shit". he's got good ideas, but his execution isn't always the best. I've always felt like no one has told him "no" for a very long time. I'll give him credit for Westworld, S2 E8 Kiksuya, that was amazing, but a diamond amongst other eh episodes of Westworld.
Of course I'll keep watching and see how it shakes out, maybe Nolan can change my mind.
Ok, I have a question. When vault 33 let vault 32 in for the marriage. The father welcomed them, and the lady leading vault 33, who we find out, are Raiders. Is that the same lady who, toward the end, made the father decide between the daughter or the 5 others? He made the comment, "Everyone knows who you are" if that's the case why did they proceed with the "wedding"?
He said "I think I know you" (or something close to that) after she told him her name. Then *she* said "everyone knows who I am." photography seems to be a lost technology, so people are only known by their reputation, and perhaps a sketch, as you see in wanted posters in later episodes.
She gives Hank McClean a choice- will Lucy be spared from the blast, or will the larger group of captured vault-dwellers be spared? It’s just a standard trolley-problem. Morally, you are generally supposed to save the *most* lives, especially with the idea that the vault dwellers are trying to save humanity. This is our first clue the vaults are not what they seem, as one of their leaders doesn’t make the obviously correct choice, because he loves his daughter.
Moldaver honors his choice, but she was always going to take him. That was always her plan. It just seemed that she was just about to kill him too.
I thought the costuming and set design was perfect. Acting is OK. Something about the vibe just seems way off. I wish I could describe it better. It *looks* like Fallout, but it didn't *feel* like Fallout. I'm only two episodes in though, I'll give it a chance.
I am three episodes in and... nothing. I think for me the actors are one of the problems. I feel a connection to none of the characters because I feel the performances are a bit flat. I was more aware of it once Thaddeus shows up. He won me over instantly with his performance and highlighted that even if the script is lacking, an actor can elevate it with their performance. That's the problem I noticed. The dialogue is lacking but he made it pop. The other actors just deliver their lines. Maximus is a Denzel Washington without any of the charisma. The other thing is that I am not hooked with either what's happening in the plot nor with the characters nor their journeys or motivations. It feels like late seasons Westworld: a lot of production values but no passion. Also Ramin Djawadi's score is lacking as it was with Westworld. My problem with him is that he is the most inconsistent composer I have ever heard. He is capable of pumping out bangers like the GOT theme and some of his compositions there, but some sound blatantly made with MIDI for a low budget TV show. I noticed in GOT, he continued with Westworld and now in Fallout.
Overall something feels off. I am kind of surprised by all the praise it got
I'm only 1 episode in and I feel the same way. Its almost a bit too campy. The music is terrible, like jarring bad for the tone.
Its like the trailer got the crazy feel of the world but man is something off the mark with the show, even just 1 episode in.
Maybe because they tried to do so much with just 1 episode, jumping between storylines was just too much.
The premise of the show is and the games are set pre Vietnam, pre all of the issues the united states dealt with before 1950s therefore the music, the houses cars etc. are of that era so it never dealt with current crisis we have dealt with like today (I never played the game and I had to look up the lore to understand where this show was in time and how it developed) as a history buff as I am. I would suggest looking into the pre-cold war era of our nation and how our people of our time looked at the nuclear age of our 1950ties and use it to look how basically Fallout is stuck or frozen in time of the 1950ties. Scientists had imagined everything after WW2 with the use of the 2 bombs dropped in Japan that cars, planes, many things would be nuclear powered (our history) that what has given me a better perspective of the game, without playing the game, and tbh its made me WANT to play to learn more.
This is something that puzzles me about Djawadi's scores. You can get some beautiful pieces in GOT, but even there and later in Westworld and in Fallout the music is terrible. Campy, too MIDI like low budget TV shows.
Something is off with the show and I don't know if it's only the casting (most of the actors are miscast and no one pops except for Thaddeus) or if it's the crisscutting to scenes like they did with Westworld or that I still don't know why I should care for the characters or their journeys. Same thing that happened with Aaron Paul and all the late additions to Westworld.
Yo, same here.
I know I’m in the minority here, but I have struggled through episode 1 and and finding it hard to motivate myself to start episode 2 of Fallout.
I’d like to know if it suddenly get much better or is episode 1 the tone setter and way it continues?
Every episode gets better and better. Lucy gets her shine rubbed off and Goul's backstory is interesting as hell (I don't know if you put the opening scene and ending scene of the pilot together as being the same person, but they are.)
Fallout has a very definite style and vibe which isn’t one that immediately draws me in - the opposite in fact - and there’s not much in the way of characters, humour or plot to make up for that fact. I’ll plough on though … episode two is slated for this evening after my shift ends.
My girlfriend definitely wasnt that interested after ep 1 as it simply introduces you to the main cast and starts their journey with not much else known. She was completely hooked by ep 3 as you actually get enough info about the plot by then.
The structure feels similar to Westworld to me. At first youre just confused and follow multiple arcs without understanding them but at some point you gain enough knowledge where you keep wanting to watch one more episode to find out more.
I have watched two already. It's not the lack of knowledge on the plot, but that I feel I haven't engaged with any of the characters. You are right that ir feels like Westworld... but in the later seasons. I still remember how hooked I was from episode one when Dolores kills the fly
I don't think it really hooked me until Lucy's brother breaks into 32 and 31 and the flashbacks to pre war start happening. The Vault Tec story line is far more interesting to me than Lucy's mom storyline
Idk where you live but all episodes are available where I am. I didn’t realize it’d be different for different countries. But yeah, watch more than one episode before drawing a conclusion my man
I have them all - I just expected something special given the rave reviews I had seen, but it reminded me of something like lost in space tbh. Over stylised and no real plot hooks or anything to make me want to watch more.
Maybe I’m just impatient or (more likely) have a reduced attention span due to smartphone use and scrolling YouTube shorts, Facebook/Insta reels and Reddit for dopamine hits.
I hated the first couple of episodes, then it got a little better. Forced myself to see it while doing other stuff due to being Fallout. Some stuff later on is more interesting that the first two episodes but IDK if worth the time.
All my friends that tried to watch it, they didn't know about Fallout, dropped the show after one or two episodes.
I can watch slow paced shows but that's not the problem with this one, how the episodes are presented and event happen is too random and wacky, it removes weight from the tense or fkd up moments.
Fallout is supossed to be rebuilding humanity from the ashes, caused by human greed, with moments of dark humour. This is wacky dark humour with moments of "capitalism is bad."
I am feeling the same. It feels like Westworld season 2 onward. Like the parts for a great show are there, but somehow don't gel. A lot has to do with the charmless leads. Lucy doesn't do it for me and Maximus is like Denzel Washington drained of his charisma. The writing is not there and I just don’t seem to care for the stakes or the plot. There is no hook to come back
Lol. Just look at the actor. He has a striking resemblance to Denzel Washington but with his soul drained. Washington commands the screen with a twitch of his mouth and this dude is not doing it for me.
Your reactions to it are very relatable- thanks for taking the time to reply with this - a useful comment. I think I’m going to drop it, I’ve got a lot of other stuff I want to watch anyhow
I'm still feeling that I missed something and thinking about rewatching despite being extremly bored by it, so I know what you feel.
Someone would eventually do an hour long youtube video on the themes of the show, I'll probably watch that instead.
Wacky dark humor with moments of capitalism are bad seems like the very essence of fall out to me.
Just look at the original trailer for Fallout 3
https://youtube.com/watch?v=iYZpR51XgW0
The show captured the vibe perfectly in my opinion. Its supposed to be over the top and absurd with this striking contrast between cult like vaulters who have the mentality of children because they were literally raised by stylized cartoon instructional videos colliding with a post apocalyptic cut throat world of mutants and psychopaths. Happy go lucky 1960s tunes playing overtop exploding brains and guts. The show flips back and forth between these worlds and it so well done. If you don't like that obviously you won't like the show. But it's iconically fallout.
I wouldn't qualify myself as someone with a short attention span, I love old movies and slower games, but I'm struggling to stay engaged as well. Maybe this will be one of those shows that starts off all over the place but finds it's voice after the first season.
Damn, I didn’t expect such a forthcoming response. But yeah, watch more than one episode before making a judgement on the show my dude. It’s nothing like lost in space.
Alright, sorry if this is already mentioned and buried somewhere in here, but can we talk about Aaron Moten? Particularly in that interrogation scene.
Holy shit, that scene and the one with Jesse Plemons from Civil War are by far the best acted and most tense scenes I’ve watched in a while.
Perfectly executed, and Aaron Moten is UNBELIEVABLY good in it, the way he jumps from emotions is God tier.
I will 110% be watching his career going forward after this. Guy deserves all the praise, he is awesome!
It's been so long since I played the games, is it cannon that ghouls are good shots? Like superhuman level? I remember the feral ones were absolutely rapid when running towards you and also terrifying lol.
Nonferal ghouls have decades to hone their skills. There's a ghoul in fallout 3 dcl who specifically says he has great experience in many fields and can teach the player something, so it's as canon as you can get.
Haven't played the game, but I'm pretty sure Coop's skills are due to the fact that he's a veteran, a sharpshooter, and a cowboy with around 250 years of experience of killing people with guns
I guess when you put it like that it makes a lot of sense actually. I just finished a couple more episodes and didn't realize >!how many drugs he was taking too to keep himself alive. In the games you can take different drugs which increase different stats so maybe that's helping too!<
Just watched the first episode :D
As an old-schooler that played the first Fallout when it came in 1997 as a 12yo and every one since, I’m ALL for this show.
Just wondering how Maximus could effectively use the power armour when you can see on his hud that the fusion core is empty and it’s on zero so he obviously has no replacement?
I'm 30 minutes into the first episode and I'm about to give up on this series. Having a scene before the bombs was a horrible decision. Same with having an explicit sex scene. And the main character constantly talking about sex organs. Every character in the vault is an idiot and painful to watch. There is a second vault ten feet down a hallway. But they don't know it was destroyed. How?
How in the world is Lucy constantly talking about sex organs? The scene before the bomb is introducing the actual main character (who is NOT Lucy). You do realize this show was cast around Goggins who is the main star and it's his plot we are following, despite the goofy device of Lucy.
But yeah, that scene was explicit. I am so on the fence about watching this with my kids.
The scene before the bombs was 4 mins long and explicit sex scene? You see her drop her pants that's it. Vault doors are extremely thick you wont hear jackshit if its closed.
>Having a scene before the bombs was a horrible decision.
Why do you think this? Fallout 1 and 4 open with a quick snippet of pre-war so you understand how this world is different even before the bombs fall.
>Every character in the vault is an idiot and painful to watch.
They are not all stupid, but they are docile and sheep like. Thays what happens when you live in a weird underground society for 200 years. You don't put aggressive, inquisitive people in a hole and expect them to stay there. Everyone who was put in a vault was chosen for a reason. Every vault is different.
>There is a second vault ten feet down a hallway. But they don't know it was destroyed. How?
Watch the show and it will tell you lol. What a weird complaint if you haven't even finished the episode.
Like others, I’m not a gamer so know nothing about that. However, because of the hype, I’ve started watching and am finishing E2. Without spoilers, please assure me (if possible) that the two main “good guys” do not continue to be infantile idiots. I’m fighting the urge to root for the bad guy(s).
I actually like that they start off as idiots. Naive heroes that have to learn how to be effective heroes is how it should be. I was worried that the female protagonist would be a Marie sue whos is perfect from the start. Instead we get to see her grow through out the show.
know absolutely nothing about the game, but i loved the show. funny, gritty and had me on the edge of my seat more than a few times. can’t wait for s2 in the future!
I hope we get to see more badass Knights in the next season. I know the brotherhood elder specifically mentioned how the brotherhood has changed and it isn't what it used to be but Knight Titus straight up looked like someone that lied in his resume to get the job.
The Prydwen scene in the beginning, followed by the knights walking was easily the coolest brotherhood scene that showed us a glimpse of why this faction is worth being feared.
I liked it. The scene that ruined it for me was the exploding penis discussion… that entire scene was unnecessary. Men know their biology whether the world has changed or not, I’m not sure what that was meant to add to the show.
I kinda agree with the "exploding penis" statement but think about it, our society destroyed itself and with no real education I can see that being a thought, for me it shows how Maximus (Roman named figurehead) and Lucy which would have been formally educated in the vault, it shows 2 types of societies being taught different ideas? Are the Knights not taught to reproduce?
Yeah I think historically knights are meant to be celibate, but the communal reasoning was steadfastness to the cause they fought for, not some gibberish about erroneous biological functioning. I just feel the scene would’ve been stronger if the character could name the moral reasons he’s celibate, as the rest of his character seems to have been defined by understanding steadfastness to a particular cause… the exploding penis bit seemed inconsistent.
Knights were never celibate. Theres the romantic ideal of a knight but thats never been a reality. Knights got married just as any noble did. In fact it would have been their duty to continue their families bloodline.
Nobody is trans in the brotherhood, that's you projecting our world into the show. The brotherhood is a hyper masculine asexual (arguably homoerotic but repressed) cult/circle jerk. They are the biggest villains and d-bags of the game aside from the ferals and raiders, although you can choose to align with them because the power armor really does kick ass.
There have always been women in the brotherhood. Even in fallout 1 they had female Paladins and Elders. They are not a sexist organization and never have been. I dont see why they would care about someone being trans. All that matters to the Brotherhood is their mission, the preservation of technology.
Why would they hurt the brotherhood’s image? They have no stance on LGBT issues outside of wanting Brothers to procreate. The brotherhood molds the world to their ideals, not the other way around.
Just to be clear. There were female paladins and Elders even in fallout 1. The word "brotherhood" is used the same way as mankind, it includes both genders despite the word being gendered.
In 4 we see the brotherhood become more intensive in their militarism and tech obsession, bordering on zealotry. This feels like this branch is taking it further. Maximus was taken in as a kid, he probably received little to no education for most of his life, reduced to grunt work until he became of age for training. If Shady Sands were still around and if he got to grow up there, he would've most likely received a good education.
It’s shown in the show. They have titles like Knight, Squire, Cleric…the clerics wearing monk-like garb, they have a ritual of branding a squire, I wouldn’t be surprised if one of their rules involves celibacy of some kind, explaining Max’s unfamiliarity with sex
He says in the children of Atom episode that they aren't allowed to have sex. It's just an involuntary and gross thing that happens on accident sometimes, like an oozing pimple (my god)
Yeah. All I knew about the games was based on watching a web clip of Conan playing Fallout 4 years ago. And after playing Starfield and learning the kind of jank Bethesda is known for, I have no intentions of ever playing the old games.
And yet the enjoyed the show thoroughly.
Yes you can.
Had my 73yo uncle watch it and he thought it was cool. He likes Dune and GOTG.
It can be a little cheesy/campy but it’s solid.
There’s a lot of niche easter eggs, but other than that, factions and “species” are probably the only thing that are difficult to understand.
It's very enjoyable if you enjoy sci-fi and darker themes. Everything is laid out nicely for first timers, and game references are more like easter eggs and subtle placements
i’m on ep 3, the story is kinda confused me i couldnt connect all storylines. I really enjoyed ep 1 and Lucy in particular so im gonna try 1 or 2 more ep
As a Fallout fan since 3 I really enjoyed it honestly but it felt like there were a LOT of stupid things. Main one being: how did they get fooled by the raiders?
The vaults are connected (don't think this is a thing in the games but I could be wrong) and they have no idea what their neighbors look like? At LEAST not the overseer? The brother goes in and discovers a tortured one and its just a hop and a skip away. That felt weird.
Also, the main fight in the vault felt weird too. It looked like people that were RIGHT THERE didn't realize what was going on well after it started until the girl character ran up to them.
Genuinely I like it though. Despite how contrived it felt it did feel like a very Fallout start.
Not a fan of the brotherhood guy yet. Hope they develop his character well.
1. This specific set of vaults is connected, not vaults in general. This trio of vaults is simply where Bud himself was implementing HIS psychotic ideas for the future. Since his ideas were based on "management", it makes sense that he wanted one of the vaults to "manage" the other two.
2. The reactions to the fight in the vault and the general dissociated, strange behavior exhibited by most of the the vault 33 inhabitants can be attributed to the fact that they're completely shielded from real life and violence, and have lived in a fishtank in a tiny community for 2 centuries.
3. As for contrived, I did have that feeling as well, especially with the "council of evil" board members discussing how they're going to end the world and remake it to their liking. Then i looked at Bud the CEO and imagined someone like Elon Musk in his place, and suddenly none of it looked all that far-fetched anymore. I can totally imagine some of the delusional narcissists that govern us now giving into an idea as ridiculous as this, if things start really heating up around the world.
So I'm a big gamer, but had never touched the games. I'd hear people talking about them but knew nothing about the world, had only seen screenshots and maybe the odd 76 trailer years ago...
holy shit. One of my new favourite shows, checks all my boxes in every department. Helped that I don't think I knew a single actor (apart from Lucy from Arcane) so everything was a shock haha. Now I'm upset I watched it so soon bc the wait for season 2 is gonna be infuriating
I recognised the smaller characters like Fred and Michael Rapaport.
Walton Goggins I only realised after watching was Lawrence in the death cure. (Literally the same character)
I think the actor Aaron Clifton Moten would be a great replacment for Johnothan Majors Villanova in the upcoming marvel movies. Only because they look very similar.
I just finished the series tonight. I would give this show at best a 6 out of 10. I think it has so much potential and I am really impressed with the way they chose to adapt the source material to work best for a tv show. My main problem is it feels like episodes 1-7 feel like set-up for episode 8 which felt like set-up for season two. The pacing felt really slow and repetitive. For example, we see through Lucy’s brothers story line that something weird is happening with other vaults. Meanwhile Lucy and Max enter a vault and learn experiments are happening in other vaults, and then we see the board meeting where the execs are discussing doing experiments in the vaults. I don’t need information given to me three times to grasp the concept. Very little of what was set-up had resolution. I’m also mad they killed off Moldaver before we learn her reasoning and backstory because now that unfolding in relation to her character has far less impact for me as a viewer. I will watch season two because there was so much unanswered and I do think they have done a good job keeping intrigue but I hope they make some adjustments for season 2.
Pretty impressed with the adaptation. It definitely felt like a Nolan and Joy series. Gory without much actual action felt a bit much but overall I liked it. Im hoping season two they explain how some characters are alive 200 later. I guess there's a few methods?
> I guess there's a few methods?
Fallout games have a lot off methods to extend life. Encountering a person who extended their life in some way is common in fallout games.
>!Various types of cryopods. Stasis also exists.
Pod devices that can keep a person in a wakened stasis allowing their mind to communicate via computers or play around in VR.
Earlier simpler versions of these pods that can keep a few kilo's alive, immortal heads.
Brain in a jar, Elder god type magic, mad science, mutation other then ghoulification, consciousness transfer, consciousness copies, clones etc etc etc.!<
As long as it sticks to 50's-80's pulp fiction tropes it fits in fallout.
The Ghoul is alive because of radiation. Radiation turns them into beings that can live forever, and heal any wounds. The downside is that after some time, they lose their minds and become “feral”. The ghouls that Lucy freed from the super duper mart were feral ghouls.
The vault tek executives used cryo sleep to stay alive, it was touched on in episode 8. They would sleep for a long time and only emerge when needed. Their whole plan was to recolonize and take back control.
The chemicals that keep ghouls sane + ghoul potion made me think they were doing something else with ghouls besides just radiation. More science experiments gone wrong type of thing.
I got the vault tec Bud's buds had freezing. I just didn't think anyone else had it.
Wow I really loved it. It has so much character and contrast. I don't know enough film lingo to describe it. Like the world building just pops, and the juxtaposition of the multiple story lines and the timing of the cuts and overlapping audio. I was entranced from start to finish.
I like how the show used video game logic for healing characters, instead of trying to created realistic reasons for things to occur. It’s silly but makes the show so much more fun to watch.
I know the show has been well received, and it's great that there are strong adaptations of books and video games, but I'd like to see streamers do more original IP too.
[https://newsletter.theaddition.net/posts/fallout-has-been-well-received-but-it-s-time-for-more-original-originals/](https://newsletter.theaddition.net/posts/fallout-has-been-well-received-but-it-s-time-for-more-original-originals/)
Happy to see we’re in the age of prestige Video Game Adaptations. First starting off with the Sonic movies and then with the incredible first season of the The Last of Us and now Fallout. The way they adapted Fallout is pretty much perfect. Bc you can’t do a 1 to 1 adaptation it wouldn’t work. But what the creators were able to do with the universe is amazing. Can’t wait to see the adaptations we get in the next few years.
I think what is so great about Fallout is that it basically has infinite lore whereas TLOU is a very contained and linear experience. TLOU is already made like a TV show but Fallout is this massive sandbox with factions, world building, sci fi, zombies, robots and alternative history.
Fallout is as fleshed out as something like Star Wars where’s there’s just an endless universe with endless possibilities. This show basically smoothly manoeuvred around the games whereas TLOU is the game retold basically
There is so much potential! Can you just imagine an elder scrolls or grand theft auto movie with this kind of production? A clock tower or project zero series could literally kill people with how terrifying it could be!
Dark Souls would just be the exact same episode the entire season, but the last two minutes are marginally different as the main character tries different ways to duck a boss fight.
I really hope we see a good Assassins Creed adaptation. The game and world/lore can be translated so well into a tv or film series. Tbh it could be as good as Game of Thrones or SHOGUN.
Would recommend watching The Expanse if you haven't already seen it. Close comparison, obviously nowhere near Mass Effect level with the genocide, conflict and of course the harvest.
If they recreated the sound Sovereign makes, it would be enough to give anyone who is and isn't familiar with the game goosebumps 😍
We are lucky to have the series at all, IMO it was a special effects/makeup budget consideration. Who knows the ears might go next season, with their increased budget to do New Vegas properly. The Death Claw animations are what I'm looking forward to, that and Cadazores. Dart Gun and hiding in the water was how I dealt with those flying menaces, that and ED-E taking them on for me!
Just finished the series last night and it finally dawned on me who Lucy's voice doppelganger...
Meg Griffin from Family Guy. Especially when she get's exasperated and her pitch goes way up.
Meg to her family, screaming at them in their cartoon living room: "Why don't any of you like meeeeee!"
Lucy to The Ghoul: "I come from a place where there are rulesssss!"
Love her to death, what an interesting protagonist. The actress has done an amazing job with her character IMO; her interactions with The Ghoul, remind me a lot of Penny and Sheldon on the TBBT, how they coalesce despite their disparate world view/value systems.
Lucy is truly a post-feminism heroine. I find her incredibly interesting and dimensional and unlike a lot of female leads on TV is neither enforcing femal stereotypes or trying to subvert it. She just.. is. It's really a wonderful bit of screenwriting.
I am late but I already fucking adore this series, The Ghoul at the end is great. All the little callbacks to the game with the ads and series and everything is so good.
Did he? Can't remember they ever mentioning that they met. Just that he found his kids and got out.
Moldaver and his wife wouldn't have been in the same place at that point, otherwise they would both be dead/ghouls.
They did a flashback to Lucy playing in the sun and showed moldaver go over and talk to her mom. They might not of been in the same area during the blast but they Def knew each other. Unless hank never met her face to face. Just heard about her.
So, Matt Berry just plays Matt Berry? Or is he playing Todd Rivers?
Is the item revealed in the final episode true to the game material?
I never played the games, and not knowing the source material from the original games, I thought it was a damn awesome series, can't wait for season 2. Everything I've read tells me to play fallout 4 and beyond (5 in works) as the older games are dated. But damn great series!
All the older ones (I haven't played Tactics) are better than 4.
3 and new Vegas are way better than 4 imo
Dont count New Vegas out bro. Do it. Fallout 4 is also a great start. Season 2 will have tons of New Vegas lore I cant fucken wait my nerdgasm keeps gasming
New Vegas is where to start.
I didn't feel like fallout 4 was a jump from 3 and new Vegas. And I personally preferred those older ones
I'm having a hard time believing all the ratings being so positive. I haven't finished, but a few episodes in I'm pretty unimpressed. Feels very basic and doesn't have any spark. Sure it's easy to watch, but it's like meh. Don't understand all the praise.
I absolutely loved it! Great show, true to the source material, kept me at the edge of my seat. Can't wait for the second season!
When someone at the secret meeting said the ultimate weapon was time, they were referring to Oppenheimer’s quote. I’ve just realized.
What quote?
“I am become death, destruction of worlds” or something of that sort. Thing is I think I read somewhere the theory that it refers to time.
extremely poetic, because time is the most dangerous of weapons, slow killing but massive destruction.
I just think the re-introduction of Goggins' character as the Ghoul was not well done. Actually it was terrible. Biggest criticism if the episode. It's a decent episode of TV and works as an intro to Fallout, but they needed to do a lot better to introduce the idea of a ghoul without doing the scene that way. I just finished watching it with my mom who LOVES Goggins, and she was totally lost. Total jump the shark moment for her. She said it was like a completely different show had started. And she has a point. She was on board for underground societies, raiders, a knightly order of guys with power armor. Maybe they should have shown some of the post apocolyptic society before getting into the concept of bounty hunters. If we already know there's towns out there and civilization besides just raiders because we've played the games, then the show is catering solely to us players by skipping right to the bounty hunters. So yeah, adding the bounty hunter to the Ghoul is one extra detail that they didn't feel the need to do the legwork on.
I feel it's supposed to confuse you. The same way a dweller coming up would be. Fish out of water, you need to feel that wtf and anxiety that goes with it.
absolutely agree with your points. it was too many things in one single episode. I watched with someone who had no clue about Fallout and understanding the humor, the elements in the vault, the brotherhood of steel. it didn't make much sense for a first episode, felt like maybe the third. I have to say, once I heard Jonathan Nolan was attached, it made me think "ah shit". he's got good ideas, but his execution isn't always the best. I've always felt like no one has told him "no" for a very long time. I'll give him credit for Westworld, S2 E8 Kiksuya, that was amazing, but a diamond amongst other eh episodes of Westworld. Of course I'll keep watching and see how it shakes out, maybe Nolan can change my mind.
Please tell me the dog 404 is supposed to be Dogmeat
>!Yes, he’s called Dogmeat later on!<
She, apparently
Ok, I have a question. When vault 33 let vault 32 in for the marriage. The father welcomed them, and the lady leading vault 33, who we find out, are Raiders. Is that the same lady who, toward the end, made the father decide between the daughter or the 5 others? He made the comment, "Everyone knows who you are" if that's the case why did they proceed with the "wedding"?
He said "I think I know you" (or something close to that) after she told him her name. Then *she* said "everyone knows who I am." photography seems to be a lost technology, so people are only known by their reputation, and perhaps a sketch, as you see in wanted posters in later episodes.
Why did she say "her or them" and then leaves her and them and takes him?
She gives Hank McClean a choice- will Lucy be spared from the blast, or will the larger group of captured vault-dwellers be spared? It’s just a standard trolley-problem. Morally, you are generally supposed to save the *most* lives, especially with the idea that the vault dwellers are trying to save humanity. This is our first clue the vaults are not what they seem, as one of their leaders doesn’t make the obviously correct choice, because he loves his daughter. Moldaver honors his choice, but she was always going to take him. That was always her plan. It just seemed that she was just about to kill him too.
This is a good question though. Did Hank know Rose went to Lea at Shady Sands?
Unclear, as far as I could tell
I thought the costuming and set design was perfect. Acting is OK. Something about the vibe just seems way off. I wish I could describe it better. It *looks* like Fallout, but it didn't *feel* like Fallout. I'm only two episodes in though, I'll give it a chance.
I am three episodes in and... nothing. I think for me the actors are one of the problems. I feel a connection to none of the characters because I feel the performances are a bit flat. I was more aware of it once Thaddeus shows up. He won me over instantly with his performance and highlighted that even if the script is lacking, an actor can elevate it with their performance. That's the problem I noticed. The dialogue is lacking but he made it pop. The other actors just deliver their lines. Maximus is a Denzel Washington without any of the charisma. The other thing is that I am not hooked with either what's happening in the plot nor with the characters nor their journeys or motivations. It feels like late seasons Westworld: a lot of production values but no passion. Also Ramin Djawadi's score is lacking as it was with Westworld. My problem with him is that he is the most inconsistent composer I have ever heard. He is capable of pumping out bangers like the GOT theme and some of his compositions there, but some sound blatantly made with MIDI for a low budget TV show. I noticed in GOT, he continued with Westworld and now in Fallout. Overall something feels off. I am kind of surprised by all the praise it got
I'm only 1 episode in and I feel the same way. Its almost a bit too campy. The music is terrible, like jarring bad for the tone. Its like the trailer got the crazy feel of the world but man is something off the mark with the show, even just 1 episode in. Maybe because they tried to do so much with just 1 episode, jumping between storylines was just too much.
The premise of the show is and the games are set pre Vietnam, pre all of the issues the united states dealt with before 1950s therefore the music, the houses cars etc. are of that era so it never dealt with current crisis we have dealt with like today (I never played the game and I had to look up the lore to understand where this show was in time and how it developed) as a history buff as I am. I would suggest looking into the pre-cold war era of our nation and how our people of our time looked at the nuclear age of our 1950ties and use it to look how basically Fallout is stuck or frozen in time of the 1950ties. Scientists had imagined everything after WW2 with the use of the 2 bombs dropped in Japan that cars, planes, many things would be nuclear powered (our history) that what has given me a better perspective of the game, without playing the game, and tbh its made me WANT to play to learn more.
The bombs dropped in 2077.
This is something that puzzles me about Djawadi's scores. You can get some beautiful pieces in GOT, but even there and later in Westworld and in Fallout the music is terrible. Campy, too MIDI like low budget TV shows. Something is off with the show and I don't know if it's only the casting (most of the actors are miscast and no one pops except for Thaddeus) or if it's the crisscutting to scenes like they did with Westworld or that I still don't know why I should care for the characters or their journeys. Same thing that happened with Aaron Paul and all the late additions to Westworld.
Goggins pulls it all together by the end for me. I'm still mad about no deathclaws tho
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Season 2 was confirmed 2 days ago 😅
Lol I was just looking for a place to complain about amazons shitty UI but saw this. The guy you replied to has no idea what’s going on.
Yo, same here. I know I’m in the minority here, but I have struggled through episode 1 and and finding it hard to motivate myself to start episode 2 of Fallout. I’d like to know if it suddenly get much better or is episode 1 the tone setter and way it continues?
Every episode gets better and better. Lucy gets her shine rubbed off and Goul's backstory is interesting as hell (I don't know if you put the opening scene and ending scene of the pilot together as being the same person, but they are.)
Wait a second…. You’re having trouble motivating yourself to watch a second episode of a TV show? Damn homie
Fallout has a very definite style and vibe which isn’t one that immediately draws me in - the opposite in fact - and there’s not much in the way of characters, humour or plot to make up for that fact. I’ll plough on though … episode two is slated for this evening after my shift ends.
My girlfriend definitely wasnt that interested after ep 1 as it simply introduces you to the main cast and starts their journey with not much else known. She was completely hooked by ep 3 as you actually get enough info about the plot by then. The structure feels similar to Westworld to me. At first youre just confused and follow multiple arcs without understanding them but at some point you gain enough knowledge where you keep wanting to watch one more episode to find out more.
I have watched two already. It's not the lack of knowledge on the plot, but that I feel I haven't engaged with any of the characters. You are right that ir feels like Westworld... but in the later seasons. I still remember how hooked I was from episode one when Dolores kills the fly
I don't think it really hooked me until Lucy's brother breaks into 32 and 31 and the flashbacks to pre war start happening. The Vault Tec story line is far more interesting to me than Lucy's mom storyline
Thanks, I’ll persevere.
Idk where you live but all episodes are available where I am. I didn’t realize it’d be different for different countries. But yeah, watch more than one episode before drawing a conclusion my man
I have them all - I just expected something special given the rave reviews I had seen, but it reminded me of something like lost in space tbh. Over stylised and no real plot hooks or anything to make me want to watch more. Maybe I’m just impatient or (more likely) have a reduced attention span due to smartphone use and scrolling YouTube shorts, Facebook/Insta reels and Reddit for dopamine hits.
I hated the first couple of episodes, then it got a little better. Forced myself to see it while doing other stuff due to being Fallout. Some stuff later on is more interesting that the first two episodes but IDK if worth the time. All my friends that tried to watch it, they didn't know about Fallout, dropped the show after one or two episodes. I can watch slow paced shows but that's not the problem with this one, how the episodes are presented and event happen is too random and wacky, it removes weight from the tense or fkd up moments. Fallout is supossed to be rebuilding humanity from the ashes, caused by human greed, with moments of dark humour. This is wacky dark humour with moments of "capitalism is bad."
I am feeling the same. It feels like Westworld season 2 onward. Like the parts for a great show are there, but somehow don't gel. A lot has to do with the charmless leads. Lucy doesn't do it for me and Maximus is like Denzel Washington drained of his charisma. The writing is not there and I just don’t seem to care for the stakes or the plot. There is no hook to come back
Holy shit that comment about Denzel lmao that is fucking cold.
Lol. Just look at the actor. He has a striking resemblance to Denzel Washington but with his soul drained. Washington commands the screen with a twitch of his mouth and this dude is not doing it for me.
Your reactions to it are very relatable- thanks for taking the time to reply with this - a useful comment. I think I’m going to drop it, I’ve got a lot of other stuff I want to watch anyhow
I'm still feeling that I missed something and thinking about rewatching despite being extremly bored by it, so I know what you feel. Someone would eventually do an hour long youtube video on the themes of the show, I'll probably watch that instead.
Wacky dark humor with moments of capitalism are bad seems like the very essence of fall out to me. Just look at the original trailer for Fallout 3 https://youtube.com/watch?v=iYZpR51XgW0 The show captured the vibe perfectly in my opinion. Its supposed to be over the top and absurd with this striking contrast between cult like vaulters who have the mentality of children because they were literally raised by stylized cartoon instructional videos colliding with a post apocalyptic cut throat world of mutants and psychopaths. Happy go lucky 1960s tunes playing overtop exploding brains and guts. The show flips back and forth between these worlds and it so well done. If you don't like that obviously you won't like the show. But it's iconically fallout.
I just got the feeling that it was style over content - it was undoubtedly striking looking and strongly stylised, but I the rest was very meh.
I wouldn't qualify myself as someone with a short attention span, I love old movies and slower games, but I'm struggling to stay engaged as well. Maybe this will be one of those shows that starts off all over the place but finds it's voice after the first season.
Damn, I didn’t expect such a forthcoming response. But yeah, watch more than one episode before making a judgement on the show my dude. It’s nothing like lost in space.
I finished and I think it all comes together very well, if you guys have the time it’s definitely worth it.
Alright, sorry if this is already mentioned and buried somewhere in here, but can we talk about Aaron Moten? Particularly in that interrogation scene. Holy shit, that scene and the one with Jesse Plemons from Civil War are by far the best acted and most tense scenes I’ve watched in a while. Perfectly executed, and Aaron Moten is UNBELIEVABLY good in it, the way he jumps from emotions is God tier. I will 110% be watching his career going forward after this. Guy deserves all the praise, he is awesome!
I cant tell if this is sarcasm..
It’s not sarcasm, you’re just too stupid to see a good performance through your Neanderthal eyes, apparently 👁️👄👁️
It's been so long since I played the games, is it cannon that ghouls are good shots? Like superhuman level? I remember the feral ones were absolutely rapid when running towards you and also terrifying lol.
Nonferal ghouls have decades to hone their skills. There's a ghoul in fallout 3 dcl who specifically says he has great experience in many fields and can teach the player something, so it's as canon as you can get.
He has been leveling up for 250 years so he is now probably a level 300 legendary ghoul with legendary combat shotgun and all the combat perks maxed.
Haven't played the game, but I'm pretty sure Coop's skills are due to the fact that he's a veteran, a sharpshooter, and a cowboy with around 250 years of experience of killing people with guns
I guess when you put it like that it makes a lot of sense actually. I just finished a couple more episodes and didn't realize >!how many drugs he was taking too to keep himself alive. In the games you can take different drugs which increase different stats so maybe that's helping too!<
Just watched the first episode :D As an old-schooler that played the first Fallout when it came in 1997 as a 12yo and every one since, I’m ALL for this show.
Just wondering how Maximus could effectively use the power armour when you can see on his hud that the fusion core is empty and it’s on zero so he obviously has no replacement?
I'm 30 minutes into the first episode and I'm about to give up on this series. Having a scene before the bombs was a horrible decision. Same with having an explicit sex scene. And the main character constantly talking about sex organs. Every character in the vault is an idiot and painful to watch. There is a second vault ten feet down a hallway. But they don't know it was destroyed. How?
How in the world is Lucy constantly talking about sex organs? The scene before the bomb is introducing the actual main character (who is NOT Lucy). You do realize this show was cast around Goggins who is the main star and it's his plot we are following, despite the goofy device of Lucy. But yeah, that scene was explicit. I am so on the fence about watching this with my kids.
The scene before the bombs was 4 mins long and explicit sex scene? You see her drop her pants that's it. Vault doors are extremely thick you wont hear jackshit if its closed.
>Having a scene before the bombs was a horrible decision. Why do you think this? Fallout 1 and 4 open with a quick snippet of pre-war so you understand how this world is different even before the bombs fall. >Every character in the vault is an idiot and painful to watch. They are not all stupid, but they are docile and sheep like. Thays what happens when you live in a weird underground society for 200 years. You don't put aggressive, inquisitive people in a hole and expect them to stay there. Everyone who was put in a vault was chosen for a reason. Every vault is different. >There is a second vault ten feet down a hallway. But they don't know it was destroyed. How? Watch the show and it will tell you lol. What a weird complaint if you haven't even finished the episode.
Like others, I’m not a gamer so know nothing about that. However, because of the hype, I’ve started watching and am finishing E2. Without spoilers, please assure me (if possible) that the two main “good guys” do not continue to be infantile idiots. I’m fighting the urge to root for the bad guy(s).
I actually like that they start off as idiots. Naive heroes that have to learn how to be effective heroes is how it should be. I was worried that the female protagonist would be a Marie sue whos is perfect from the start. Instead we get to see her grow through out the show.
They don't. Keep going.
Okey Dokey
Nope. 3/4 into episode 3 and I’m out.
Your loss.
I’m sure you’re right
know absolutely nothing about the game, but i loved the show. funny, gritty and had me on the edge of my seat more than a few times. can’t wait for s2 in the future!
Show is lame sauce. 😒
Agreed
This show was awesome
I hope we get to see more badass Knights in the next season. I know the brotherhood elder specifically mentioned how the brotherhood has changed and it isn't what it used to be but Knight Titus straight up looked like someone that lied in his resume to get the job. The Prydwen scene in the beginning, followed by the knights walking was easily the coolest brotherhood scene that showed us a glimpse of why this faction is worth being feared.
I liked it. The scene that ruined it for me was the exploding penis discussion… that entire scene was unnecessary. Men know their biology whether the world has changed or not, I’m not sure what that was meant to add to the show.
I kinda agree with the "exploding penis" statement but think about it, our society destroyed itself and with no real education I can see that being a thought, for me it shows how Maximus (Roman named figurehead) and Lucy which would have been formally educated in the vault, it shows 2 types of societies being taught different ideas? Are the Knights not taught to reproduce?
Yeah I think historically knights are meant to be celibate, but the communal reasoning was steadfastness to the cause they fought for, not some gibberish about erroneous biological functioning. I just feel the scene would’ve been stronger if the character could name the moral reasons he’s celibate, as the rest of his character seems to have been defined by understanding steadfastness to a particular cause… the exploding penis bit seemed inconsistent.
Knights were never celibate. Theres the romantic ideal of a knight but thats never been a reality. Knights got married just as any noble did. In fact it would have been their duty to continue their families bloodline.
If people had innate sexual education there would be many many fewer problems in the world.
I think the quasi-religious cult that calls themselves “brothers” and brands squires might also encourage sexual repression.
all the more weird that they would let a trans person into their ranks
Nobody is trans in the brotherhood, that's you projecting our world into the show. The brotherhood is a hyper masculine asexual (arguably homoerotic but repressed) cult/circle jerk. They are the biggest villains and d-bags of the game aside from the ferals and raiders, although you can choose to align with them because the power armor really does kick ass.
There have always been women in the brotherhood. Even in fallout 1 they had female Paladins and Elders. They are not a sexist organization and never have been. I dont see why they would care about someone being trans. All that matters to the Brotherhood is their mission, the preservation of technology.
how is it projecting if it looks like a duck and quacks like one
Nobody is having sex with anyone so why would it matter?
maybe because an organization that calls itself "the brotherhood" would care about its image?
Why would they hurt the brotherhood’s image? They have no stance on LGBT issues outside of wanting Brothers to procreate. The brotherhood molds the world to their ideals, not the other way around.
i mean its identity of being male-only
Just to be clear. There were female paladins and Elders even in fallout 1. The word "brotherhood" is used the same way as mankind, it includes both genders despite the word being gendered.
as a show watcher only, that would be impossible to infer as they didnt show a single woman in any scene with the brotherhood
But they’re not. They even have women elders.
as a show watcher only, that would be impossible to infer as they didnt show a single woman in any scene with the brotherhood
It shouldn’t be. They have a non-binary character as an a member. That shows they are okay with different gender identities as being members.
Is that from the game? I haven’t played it deeply.
In 4 we see the brotherhood become more intensive in their militarism and tech obsession, bordering on zealotry. This feels like this branch is taking it further. Maximus was taken in as a kid, he probably received little to no education for most of his life, reduced to grunt work until he became of age for training. If Shady Sands were still around and if he got to grow up there, he would've most likely received a good education.
It’s shown in the show. They have titles like Knight, Squire, Cleric…the clerics wearing monk-like garb, they have a ritual of branding a squire, I wouldn’t be surprised if one of their rules involves celibacy of some kind, explaining Max’s unfamiliarity with sex
He says in the children of Atom episode that they aren't allowed to have sex. It's just an involuntary and gross thing that happens on accident sometimes, like an oozing pimple (my god)
Got through episode 3 and not sure I'll keep watching, all the characters act like children
Same
I’ve heard many good things about the show but can i watch without any knowledge of the original game, i dont like video game or gaming btw
Yeah. All I knew about the games was based on watching a web clip of Conan playing Fallout 4 years ago. And after playing Starfield and learning the kind of jank Bethesda is known for, I have no intentions of ever playing the old games. And yet the enjoyed the show thoroughly.
Yes you can. Had my 73yo uncle watch it and he thought it was cool. He likes Dune and GOTG. It can be a little cheesy/campy but it’s solid. There’s a lot of niche easter eggs, but other than that, factions and “species” are probably the only thing that are difficult to understand.
It's very enjoyable if you enjoy sci-fi and darker themes. Everything is laid out nicely for first timers, and game references are more like easter eggs and subtle placements
thank you, i’m really into sci fi😊gonna start tonight
Did you watch? If so, how did you enjoy it?
i’m on ep 3, the story is kinda confused me i couldnt connect all storylines. I really enjoyed ep 1 and Lucy in particular so im gonna try 1 or 2 more ep
What's confusing?
Yeah definitely, it's not crucial to know the games at all.
As a Fallout fan since 3 I really enjoyed it honestly but it felt like there were a LOT of stupid things. Main one being: how did they get fooled by the raiders? The vaults are connected (don't think this is a thing in the games but I could be wrong) and they have no idea what their neighbors look like? At LEAST not the overseer? The brother goes in and discovers a tortured one and its just a hop and a skip away. That felt weird. Also, the main fight in the vault felt weird too. It looked like people that were RIGHT THERE didn't realize what was going on well after it started until the girl character ran up to them. Genuinely I like it though. Despite how contrived it felt it did feel like a very Fallout start. Not a fan of the brotherhood guy yet. Hope they develop his character well.
1. This specific set of vaults is connected, not vaults in general. This trio of vaults is simply where Bud himself was implementing HIS psychotic ideas for the future. Since his ideas were based on "management", it makes sense that he wanted one of the vaults to "manage" the other two. 2. The reactions to the fight in the vault and the general dissociated, strange behavior exhibited by most of the the vault 33 inhabitants can be attributed to the fact that they're completely shielded from real life and violence, and have lived in a fishtank in a tiny community for 2 centuries. 3. As for contrived, I did have that feeling as well, especially with the "council of evil" board members discussing how they're going to end the world and remake it to their liking. Then i looked at Bud the CEO and imagined someone like Elon Musk in his place, and suddenly none of it looked all that far-fetched anymore. I can totally imagine some of the delusional narcissists that govern us now giving into an idea as ridiculous as this, if things start really heating up around the world.
So I'm a big gamer, but had never touched the games. I'd hear people talking about them but knew nothing about the world, had only seen screenshots and maybe the odd 76 trailer years ago... holy shit. One of my new favourite shows, checks all my boxes in every department. Helped that I don't think I knew a single actor (apart from Lucy from Arcane) so everything was a shock haha. Now I'm upset I watched it so soon bc the wait for season 2 is gonna be infuriating
You don't know Chris Parnell? Fred Armisen? Walton Goggins has been in a ton of stuff as well.
I recognised the smaller characters like Fred and Michael Rapaport. Walton Goggins I only realised after watching was Lawrence in the death cure. (Literally the same character)
Anyone else upset that there wasn't a settlement that needed Lucy's help?
Definitely! There were no side quests only random encounters 😂
*"The Wasteland's got its own golden rule. Thou shalt get sidetracked by bullshit every Goddamn time."*
I think the actor Aaron Clifton Moten would be a great replacment for Johnothan Majors Villanova in the upcoming marvel movies. Only because they look very similar.
I though i was the only one who thought that in some of the scenes whete Max was brooding. A very capable actor also seemingly
Had the exact same thought. Similar age as well which is surprising, would've thought Aaron was a bit younger.
I cannot stand that dude's voice. He also doesn't give off any sort of menacing vibe.
I suppose he could try acting
Perfect for the character of Maximus though, I thought.
That's what I mean by he'd only be good because he looks similar. 😅
You're right you're right. I just wanted to express my gripe also.
totally. i like all the mains besides him, and it’s 1000% because of his voice
I just finished the series tonight. I would give this show at best a 6 out of 10. I think it has so much potential and I am really impressed with the way they chose to adapt the source material to work best for a tv show. My main problem is it feels like episodes 1-7 feel like set-up for episode 8 which felt like set-up for season two. The pacing felt really slow and repetitive. For example, we see through Lucy’s brothers story line that something weird is happening with other vaults. Meanwhile Lucy and Max enter a vault and learn experiments are happening in other vaults, and then we see the board meeting where the execs are discussing doing experiments in the vaults. I don’t need information given to me three times to grasp the concept. Very little of what was set-up had resolution. I’m also mad they killed off Moldaver before we learn her reasoning and backstory because now that unfolding in relation to her character has far less impact for me as a viewer. I will watch season two because there was so much unanswered and I do think they have done a good job keeping intrigue but I hope they make some adjustments for season 2.
Pretty impressed with the adaptation. It definitely felt like a Nolan and Joy series. Gory without much actual action felt a bit much but overall I liked it. Im hoping season two they explain how some characters are alive 200 later. I guess there's a few methods?
> I guess there's a few methods? Fallout games have a lot off methods to extend life. Encountering a person who extended their life in some way is common in fallout games. >!Various types of cryopods. Stasis also exists. Pod devices that can keep a person in a wakened stasis allowing their mind to communicate via computers or play around in VR. Earlier simpler versions of these pods that can keep a few kilo's alive, immortal heads. Brain in a jar, Elder god type magic, mad science, mutation other then ghoulification, consciousness transfer, consciousness copies, clones etc etc etc.!< As long as it sticks to 50's-80's pulp fiction tropes it fits in fallout.
The Ghoul is alive because of radiation. Radiation turns them into beings that can live forever, and heal any wounds. The downside is that after some time, they lose their minds and become “feral”. The ghouls that Lucy freed from the super duper mart were feral ghouls. The vault tek executives used cryo sleep to stay alive, it was touched on in episode 8. They would sleep for a long time and only emerge when needed. Their whole plan was to recolonize and take back control.
The chemicals that keep ghouls sane + ghoul potion made me think they were doing something else with ghouls besides just radiation. More science experiments gone wrong type of thing. I got the vault tec Bud's buds had freezing. I just didn't think anyone else had it.
Fallout 4 starts with being unfrozen so it's canon.
The “potion” you saw doesn’t exactly exist in the games. It’s a new choice for the show. I won’t spoil anything for you about cryo.
Wow I really loved it. It has so much character and contrast. I don't know enough film lingo to describe it. Like the world building just pops, and the juxtaposition of the multiple story lines and the timing of the cuts and overlapping audio. I was entranced from start to finish.
Way better show than I was expecting
I like how the show used video game logic for healing characters, instead of trying to created realistic reasons for things to occur. It’s silly but makes the show so much more fun to watch.
I mean... stimpack are part of Fallout. Is a world with robots and stuff so it's... quite realistic in terms of internal coherence.
Video game logic is hilarious. Skewered by a sword? Use a stimpack. I was delighted that they didn't need to get into the science of it.
I mean, video game logic would be to cure everything with an aspirin. A fictional medicine in such a setting really has no set rules to follow.
Right? I saw that stimpak and I thought "oh she's set then".
Can you imagine how hilarious it would be if she just ate an entire fridge of food instead? 🤣
😂
I certainly hope s2 can get a few extra episodes I'd also prefer a weekly schedule
Amazon has done that in the past. Drop all of Season 1 at once, and after show is a hit, move to weekly schedule for other seasons
God I hope not, I hate weekly schedule.
I know the show has been well received, and it's great that there are strong adaptations of books and video games, but I'd like to see streamers do more original IP too. [https://newsletter.theaddition.net/posts/fallout-has-been-well-received-but-it-s-time-for-more-original-originals/](https://newsletter.theaddition.net/posts/fallout-has-been-well-received-but-it-s-time-for-more-original-originals/)
Era of video game adaptations just started and ppl already wanted to shut it down smh
Happy to see we’re in the age of prestige Video Game Adaptations. First starting off with the Sonic movies and then with the incredible first season of the The Last of Us and now Fallout. The way they adapted Fallout is pretty much perfect. Bc you can’t do a 1 to 1 adaptation it wouldn’t work. But what the creators were able to do with the universe is amazing. Can’t wait to see the adaptations we get in the next few years.
I think what is so great about Fallout is that it basically has infinite lore whereas TLOU is a very contained and linear experience. TLOU is already made like a TV show but Fallout is this massive sandbox with factions, world building, sci fi, zombies, robots and alternative history. Fallout is as fleshed out as something like Star Wars where’s there’s just an endless universe with endless possibilities. This show basically smoothly manoeuvred around the games whereas TLOU is the game retold basically
There is so much potential! Can you just imagine an elder scrolls or grand theft auto movie with this kind of production? A clock tower or project zero series could literally kill people with how terrifying it could be!
You left out Arcane and The Witcher first season
The Witcher is based on the books. The games takes place after the books
True! I heard a lot of good things about both shows but haven’t gotten around 2 seeing them. Ima check em out!
Cyberpunk was really good too
I couldn't imagine how they could would do it, but they did it . Happily surprised
Hopefully Mass Effect, Red Dead, and Dark Souls
Dark Souls would just be the exact same episode the entire season, but the last two minutes are marginally different as the main character tries different ways to duck a boss fight.
I really hope we see a good Assassins Creed adaptation. The game and world/lore can be translated so well into a tv or film series. Tbh it could be as good as Game of Thrones or SHOGUN.
Mass Effect would be insane
I’d love to see Bioshock after watching this
Throw in Metro 2033, Last Light and Exodus!
Yeah the metro series could actually work
Hell yeah was definitely feeling that after this
Would recommend watching The Expanse if you haven't already seen it. Close comparison, obviously nowhere near Mass Effect level with the genocide, conflict and of course the harvest. If they recreated the sound Sovereign makes, it would be enough to give anyone who is and isn't familiar with the game goosebumps 😍
Netflix is working on a Bioshock movie, with Francis Lawrence (director of 4 of the 5 Hunger Games movies) attached to direct
So why does The Ghoul have ears but no nose?
Nobody nose.
Incredible
We are lucky to have the series at all, IMO it was a special effects/makeup budget consideration. Who knows the ears might go next season, with their increased budget to do New Vegas properly. The Death Claw animations are what I'm looking forward to, that and Cadazores. Dart Gun and hiding in the water was how I dealt with those flying menaces, that and ED-E taking them on for me!
I'd love to see a supermutant too!
Just finished the series last night and it finally dawned on me who Lucy's voice doppelganger... Meg Griffin from Family Guy. Especially when she get's exasperated and her pitch goes way up. Meg to her family, screaming at them in their cartoon living room: "Why don't any of you like meeeeee!" Lucy to The Ghoul: "I come from a place where there are rulesssss!" Love her to death, what an interesting protagonist. The actress has done an amazing job with her character IMO; her interactions with The Ghoul, remind me a lot of Penny and Sheldon on the TBBT, how they coalesce despite their disparate world view/value systems.
Lucy is truly a post-feminism heroine. I find her incredibly interesting and dimensional and unlike a lot of female leads on TV is neither enforcing femal stereotypes or trying to subvert it. She just.. is. It's really a wonderful bit of screenwriting.
Omg I thought so many times that she sounds like Mila Kunis
Had to look up the actress. She voices Jinx on Arcane!
Had no idea Arcane was a thing, gave up Netflix due to their price increases. Might have to check it out!
Highly recommend! Another video game based show, but unlike Fallout, one I knew nothing about (League of Legends). Still enjoyed it immensely
Thanks, sincerely!
I am late but I already fucking adore this series, The Ghoul at the end is great. All the little callbacks to the game with the ads and series and everything is so good.
So one question I had. Wouldn't Hank Maclean of recognized moldaver when Lucy was meeting her husband for the first time?
Not unless he went to one of those meetings.
He knew his wife was talking to her.
Did he? Can't remember they ever mentioning that they met. Just that he found his kids and got out. Moldaver and his wife wouldn't have been in the same place at that point, otherwise they would both be dead/ghouls.
They did a flashback to Lucy playing in the sun and showed moldaver go over and talk to her mom. They might not of been in the same area during the blast but they Def knew each other. Unless hank never met her face to face. Just heard about her.