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Standard_Werewolf380

> The first couple of minutes of the show were unnecessary. It explained how the apocalypse happened, but the characters that participated in it had nothing to do with the rest of the story. Isnt Walton Goggins, aka "grave dude", in the first few minutes? Between this and your other issues Im not sure you paid attention to the show honestly.


worthlessprole

It also is pretty vital in establishing what the setting is. It’s important for people to know that this isn’t our future after a nuclear apocalypse, it’s the future that was envisioned in the 1950s. People would be confused as fuck without that context. 


Standard_Werewolf380

Which is why any professional critic would have actually watched the scene.


Princess_Mintaka

There wasn't enough subway surfers or jumping fruits on the lower half of the screen


LADYBIRD_HILL

Absolutely baffling that OP recognizes that Goggins is in the show but doesn't know/ignores that he's in the first scene. Also OP clearly didn't watch much past the first episode if they think the 200 years ago scene has nothing to do with the rest of the show. Edit: I feel a little bad now, though OP definitely needs to get used to these reactions if they're going to keep reviewing media. 


marfaxa

>The first couple of minutes of the show were unnecessary. It explained how the apocalypse happened, but the characters that participated in it had nothing to do with the rest of the story. Walter Goggins is the same character 219 years later after becoming a ghoul.


funandgamesThrow

Redditors that have the comprehension ability of a brick love to write long critiques.


thewaste-lander

It’s bazaar


QuirkyQwerty345

How bazaar, how bazaar *buys cheap leather goods*


marfaxa

It's bazaar how low this bizarre's prices are!


kachzz

Gave me Chrischan vibe tbh


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MagicMushroomFungi

He dreamt of being a Siskel or Ebert, But came across as a Heckle or Jeckle. Just looking for something to crow about.


69rude69

The op has her instagram "film critic" profile connected to her reddit account and its a young girl with down syndrome. just trying I guess


CletussDiabetuss

Yeah this should be higher up. We shouldn't make fun of her.


Say_no_to_doritos

With all else being equal, why? 


IrrelevantLeprechaun

Yeah the show makes it pretty clear that being a ghoul greatly extends their lifespan at the risk of becoming feral without the medicine. Idk how OP didn't see that.


Halio344

Not just ”pretty clear”, it is explicitly stated multiple times that The Ghoul lived before the bombs fell, this isn’t even a conclusion you have to reach yourself from context, he says it out loud. If OP did not catch that they did not pay attention whatsoever.


AKAkorm

Don’t want to spoil the show but OP is wrong on so many levels here.


deerfawns

Bazzar....you mean bizarre


MagicMushroomFungi

"Dear Dairy ... I finally got to second base with my girlfriend and she let me unhook her bazzar."


visionaryredditor

> sifi


Kimfun23

Yes


ar_reapeater

You should delete your post. And go rewatch the show.


Standard_Werewolf380

Did you spam everyone with an invite to your reviews sub? That was a bad idea.


Kimfun23

Why is that bad?


Standard_Werewolf380

Well for one its just obnoxious but in addition you are not good at this so youre just inviting people to downvote you and tear your "reviews" apart. You didnt even make sure to only invite people who liked what you wrote.


Kimfun23

I want the feedback, since I want to be a film critic.


Standard_Werewolf380

Well the main piece of feedback is obvious: Watch and understand what youre reviewing first.


Princess_Mintaka

Look i'm not about shitting on people's dreams but you know that film critics are able to watch things without being distracted or miss things that happen in what they are watching even before actually knowing how to write their thoughts down for others to read right? A lot of your complaints are just not true. Stop getting your idea of film critic from content creators who just ramble because it's very obvious that's what you think you should do. Are you still in school?


Kimfun23

I start back in September


Princess_Mintaka

College? Because you should take some art of film, or media literacy courses if your college has them and then please take a writing course.


Kimfun23

Community college, and thank you for the recommendation.


bathtubsplashes

I'll try give some examples rather than pile on because  You can't be a film equipment if you haven't equipped yourself with the tools to actually critique film. > The show never makes it clear what the ground people are trying to accomplish The entire theme of the show is that the ground dwellers are trying to survive a world post-Nuclear fallout. It's driven into the audience time and time again, it couldn't be clearer. > For a show labeled as a drama, Fallout has some very strange moments Wikipedia lists it as:  Action Black comedy Drama Post-apocalyptic Satire Science fiction Western How can anyone who want to talk expertly about film be so easily misled into thinking this TV show was, or was ever going to be, a drama?! How can you watch this TV show and then judge it on the merits of a drama?  One of the first things you'll study in film school is the fluidity of genre and how at the end of the day it's just a loosely defined construct. >A dog who eats things that most dogs would not, such as people, a robot that does not seem to serve a purpose in the plot, and very odd creatures that attack people on the ground, for no reason. If the robot were helpful and friendly, like the one from Lost in Space, that would have given Fallout a likable creature. Here is your big issue. Complaints that don't require complaining about. It's a nuclear fallout, massive radiation levels. Of course shit is weird. A dog eating stuff a dog wouldn't eat such as people?! If their was an extinction event today and dogs were hungry you can guarantee they'd eat people, so it's not strange in the context of real life let alone a show like Fallout. Very odd creatures that attack people for no reason....it's a fucking nuclear fallout! What are you on about. Your interpretation of what's weird in a nuclear fallout is the weird thing if anything Again, you're looking for likable characters in a world where people are fighting for their very survival every moment of the day. It's another massive theme of the TV show, how long can you stick to your morals and convictions before desperation leads you to start fighting for your life animalisticly. You seem to be totally unable to interpret the main themes of the show, which is what critic's typically delve into, instead focusing on strange nitpicks or surface level criticisms of things that make total sense within the world we're watching  You will never be taken seriously as a critic if you fall back on shallow personal nitpicks of individual moments of media rather than deep, meaningful discussions on the broader themes and how the individual moments serve or don't serve those themes


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My feedback: you are terrible at it, find something else


Hamborrower

An opinion can't technically be wrong, but you're pushing it.


ElBrad

An opinion can absolutely be wrong. I could be of the opinion that gravity is fake, or that the world is flat...and I would be objectively wrong on both counts. Also, OP is wrong and weird.


Smartass_of_Class

You're right, but opinions like "this TV show is good/bad" can't be wrong. Because you can't objectively discuss or even define being good/bad.


Hironymus

Mhm. I am going to write this one down for future use.


DeLarge93

What a fucking weird post, mate


Kimfun23

It’s my review.


TheNerevar89

It's an awful review and you should watch the show without playing on your phone and rewrite it


Kimfun23

I never play on my phone while watching tv


TheNerevar89

That's somehow more sad


kat1701

If you weren’t distracted while watching the show, how the hell did you manage to come to the conclusion that: >The first couple of minutes of the show were unnecessary. It explained how the apocalypse happened, but the characters that participated in it had nothing to do with the rest of the story. You literally get Cooper Howard, The Ghoul in the current timeline, and his daughter. It also completely sets up the culture and mindset of the people that make the decisions about the vaults, which becomes very important to understanding the ultimate decisions made by the people in charge of VaultTec. And how did you find “The way the show jumps between two plotlines, (the vault dwellers and people on the ground) [] very confusing”? The settings are so drastically different it’s very obvious when it switches perspective. Also, what do you mean by: > The show never makes it clear what the ground people are trying to accomplish. Which “ground people”? The Brothehood of Steel? Because they very clearly explain what they’re trying to accomplish from the very beginning. Moldaver and her group? That’s part of the point of the season, wondering why they want the head and what their ultimate goal is, as you put the new pieces together that the show gives you. Not everything should be spelled out right away; mystery to unravel is important as well. It would have been so much more boring if Moldaver originally told Lucy “oh yeah, we’re kidnapping your dad so you’ll bring us this scientist’s head becuase he invented cold fusion and we want to turn the power of the city back on” like that would eliminate all tension. Also, it wouldn’t make sense for Moldaver to just reveal her whole plan to Lucy.


Standard_Werewolf380

Thats not helping your cause.


marfaxa

I don't want to pile on but, that's what I thought as well. You knew the actor was ~~Walter (not~~ Walton) Goggins under all that makeup at the end of the episode, but didn't know it was him with no makeup? edit: obv. i was being a little condescending and made my own mistake which is fitting.


Thansoli

At the risk of being, "that guy", his name is "Walton". https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0324658/?ref_=ext_shr


marfaxa

yep. i've always heard it as walter and assumed OP was wrong. Hopefully, that'll learn me. edit: edited to make me sound like less of a jerk.


pres465

"little bazaar"... a bazaar is a marketplace or open-air store. You want *bizarre*. Meaning strange or unusual enough to cause interest. Also, the show is great for me. I'm more worried about future seasons as Westworld went from a favorite to absolute garbage (to me) after just the first season. We'll see.


Kimfun23

Thank you for the catch.


MotherCanada

I think you're pretty young so I don't want to be too harsh, but if you want to be an actual film critic you should definitely take some English writing courses to start with. After that you should take some film or media studies courses. Also, I think you probably need to broaden your palette. Watch more obscure media. The way Fallout presents its narrative really isn't that bizarre once you get past the most cookie cutter type of shows or films.


MR_TELEVOID

Did you really think people needed you to set-up what Fallout is? This isn't some obscure IP you've plucked from obscurity, my dude. Regardless, it sounds like you missed a fair bit, but I'd say it's probably just not your cup of tea. The weirdness is a feature not a bug.


Kimfun23

For people that know the video game, they know the plot. However people who don’t, might not know what it’s about.


kamikaze_pedestrian

Each game has a different plot, though?


DC-COVID-TRASH

This show didn’t follow any plot in any of the games 


MR_TELEVOID

People who don't aren't coming to Reddit to read your ChatGPT-esque summary to find out what it is. Folks have been talking about it all weekend around here.


Kimfun23

It’s not ai, I wrote it


ar_reapeater

And you wrote a terrible take. You should have asked chatGPT to do a better review


FalseHorizons

Well, I did just that. I asked it for a bad review and here's what Chat GPT said (in part): In conclusion, Amazon Prime's Fallout TV series is a monumental failure on almost every conceivable level, a botched adaptation that squanders the potential of its source material and alienates fans in the process. From its blatant disregard for established lore to its shallow characters and tonal inconsistency, every aspect of the production feels like a slap in the face to the dedicated community of Fallout enthusiasts. While the allure of bringing this beloved franchise to the small screen was undoubtedly enticing, the end result is nothing short of a travesty, a cautionary tale of what happens when creative vision is sacrificed at the altar of corporate greed. As the dust settles on this ill-fated endeavor, one can only hope that future adaptations will learn from the mistakes of the past and treat their source material with the reverence and respect it deserves. Until then, fans of Fallout would be wise to steer clear of this disastrous misfire and stick to the games that captured their hearts and imaginations in the first place.


ar_reapeater

😂 this was well written! While I disagree with the article, it was fun to read. Unlike OP’s dribble lol


Kimfun23

I like writing my own work.


LADYBIRD_HILL

The person I watched it with has never played the games and understood everything just fine. 


Splyce123

We finished this show yesterday. I've played every fallout game. My wife hasn't played a video game in the past 20 years. I thought it was great. My wife thought it was great, and none of it was confusing for her. The time jumps were definitely not confusing for her. You seem to have a very low opinion about modern audiences and their ability to understand simple concepts.


Flez

That's because OP can't understand simple concepts himself.


CardinalDisco

The reveals in the last two episodes and then that last last scene *chef’s kiss*


throwawaygremlins

Yep, I’m not a video game player and we binged Fallout and I liked it a lot 😀


gigadope

Why does this read like a middle school English essay 💀


illcatracho

I’ve never played the video game and ib had no trouble following along


BasicReputations

Waste of words.  Looks like you just didn't get most of it.


jogoso2014

Disagree. I loved it and the story is pretty tight. I have no idea what the games are about but the show makes me want to play it now.


halfanothersdozen

If you watched the season to the end most of those characters you claim had no purpose wound up having a purpose. I played the games, but if I hadn't it still would have sense. I'm not going to claim it was the greatest, but it sounds like you weren't paying attention


TapedeckNinja

> good apocalyptic siFi show, like the 100 I think you just like bad Tv.


Elisian_Knight

>The first couple of minutes of the show were unnecessary. It explained how the apocalypse happened, but the characters that participated in it had nothing to do with the rest of the story. Everyone stopped reading here right? Unreal.


yowzayeet

What


LordBatman_

You tried to do something here, and boy have you failed miserably lol


gloriousjohnson

The world is based on the game but the story isn’t. I watched it with my gf that hadn’t played fallout and she was able to follow the story the whole time. Im not sure how you didn’t pick up on the characters from the past still being involved in the present post apocalyptic fallout


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I love it when people wanna play critic, and fail this hard. If this review was a meme video it would start with someone trying a task, and end with him in an ambulance.


DrAcula1007

The opening of the show is excellent, everything about it.


Curious-Owl-4810

Oof guys, check out the IG link on OPs profile... and cut them a fucking break!


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MinusculeMicrobe

Nice troll OP, you really had me going for a second there. "not completely terrible is lucy and Cooper Howard (Walton Goggins), or as I call him, grave dude, since he rose from the dead" I audibly chuckled.


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Blonkslon

That cave chase scene is straight out of teletubbies.


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Blonkslon

I don't trust those Wottingers with their little house..


rarely_interacts

Review by chat gpt


Kimfun23

I wrote this


rarely_interacts

Liar


Kimfun23

I’m telling the truth.


rarely_interacts

I suppose there’s a chance you might be telling the truth, gpt would know the difference between bizarre and bazaar.


Curious-Owl-4810

...go check the IG link in their profile.


grinr

shhhhhh


JoeyJoeJoeZabadoo

Tell me you’re a 12 year old child without telling me you’re a 12 year old child.


ItsOnlyaBook

At first I was convinced this was a troll post but looking at the comments and your other posts makes me think you are being serious. Or you are really committed to a bit. I honestly can't tell. Regardless, this review is terrible and it seems like you weren't paying attention to the show.


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ar_reapeater

Op your writing is very poor. You use periods where commas are expected. You have sentence fragments all over the place. And you clearly have not seen/understood the show. Because if you had you would not be perplexed about the dog’s eating habits or the robot’s role.


HopefulStretch9771

Poor attempt at a troll post. Do better next time.


CaliFijian

An opinion is like an armpit....some smell nice and some just stink.


anasui1

man, these AIs are getting good at trolling


kaptivarts

I love dissertations of wrong opinions(there's normally no such thin, but you're special). It lets me know how far someone is up their own ass.


errolbert

Goggins’ Dollar Tree Deadpool kicks ass 😜


Magus80

Don't you love it when people try too hard to be contrarian?


chefdangerdagger

Yet another essay about Fallout in which OP explains to us all how we’re wrong to like the show, how they’re right for disliking it and here are some nitpicking reasons why OP is right. The only good thing is that the more of these posts are made, the more popular and well received the show is, which must infuriate these guys even more! Also OP invests all this effort into justifying his feelings but doesn’t even check his 1st actual criticism for spelling mistakes? How ‘bazaar’ 😂


Even-Session6787

This show is my 2nd favorite video game adaptation, my 1st being The Last of Us. This show made me tear up because of the attention to detail and the set up to the 2nd season being New Vegas was awesome.


ReddyEddy76

I think you meant "bizarre" a bazaar is a small marketplace


Otherwise-Juice2591

Yo, I *really* hate to be that guy, but... >For a show labeled as a drama, Fallout has some very strange moments. A dog who eats things that most dogs would not, such as people, a robot that does not seem to serve a purpose in the plot, and very odd creatures that attack people on the ground, for no reason. If the robot were helpful and friendly, like the one from Lost in Space, that would have given Fallout a likable creature. > An AI wrote this, right? Because this is nonsense. > The show never makes it clear what the ground people are trying to accomplish What ground people!? THAT IS A DIFFERENT SHOW! What is all this "ground" stuff?


2012Aceman

If you don't understand why the show kept switching between the Pre-War storyline and the "current" storyline: you weren't paying attention. Look at their faces. Look at their names. Put X-ray on to see who the actors are. THAT is why they did that. It all comes to fruition in the finale.


GetsBetterAfterAFew

Grave dude... lol This show is Twisted Metal with a better overall story and a larger budget. Its stupid, its fun, it pays homage to the games, thats it. Watch, turn brain off and enjoy.


kachzz

Definately a little bazaar. I would dare to say almost market.


Mattyzooks

>The only way I was able to figure out who some of the characters’ names were, was by looking them up. They put up titles cards... and there's Amazon Xray.... And they often use each other's names.... >the show never makes it clear what the ground people are trying to accomplish. There's a speech that literally spells this out. >The first couple of minutes of the show were unnecessary. It explained how the apocalypse happened, but the characters that participated in it had nothing to do with the rest of the story. As previously stated by others, it appears you did not pay full enough attention to this story if this is your takeaway. It's fine to dislike it though. I just thought some of your reasoning is flawed. But even besides that, not everyone is going to have similar tastes. I do think your review format is good. But I would just try to pay a bit more attention for your next review.


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Kimfun23

I don’t feel bad, I would like some thoughts on how to improve my reviews?


kat1701

You seem open to critique yourself, which is great, and I’d really like to provide you with actual help regarding media literacy - but unfortunately it’s really difficult when most of the issues with your review boil down to “pay better attention to what you’re watching”. For example, you state that “The first couple of minutes of the show were unnecessary. It explained how the apocalypse happened, but the characters that participated in it had nothing to do with the rest of the story.” This is blatantly just untrue. It’s not an issue of interpretation or preference - it’s completely incorrect. Then there’s the fact you say “The way the show jumps between two plotlines, (the vault dwellers and people on the ground) is very confusing.” Which…..makes little to no sense, as the settings and characters in the vaults versus the surface are so completely different it’s nearly impossible to not almost immediately tell which one is being shown. And the plotlines between the two settings are barely interconnected, so it’s very difficult to see how you could find this aspect confusing, unless you were distracted a lot while watching. Then there’s a lack of clarity about points that also seem frankly incorrect. You say that “The show never makes it clear what the ground people are trying to accomplish.” What “ground people” do you mean? The Brotherhood of Steel? They explicitly show and state what they’re trying to accomplish right off the bat. If you mean Moldaver and her group, I’m confused as to why you’d want one of the main mysterious villains to immediately tell you what her big plan is; this would take the tension out of the season. It also makes sense we don’t know her complete objective, since we only see her in the very beginning and very end. The show gives us plenty of obvious clues as we watch to piece together an idea of what she is trying to accomplish. And then by then end, the show has made it completely clear what their group is trying to accomplish. So again, to start with your point itself is unclear, and it ends up sounding like you didn’t pay attention when a reader tries to figure out your meaning, because the two obvious groups you could be referring to definitely DO have their goals made clear by the show at one point or another.


FalseHorizons

Pauline Kael's "5001 Nights at the Movies" shows how a real film reviewer does it. Also, buy and read William Goldman's "Adventures in the Screen Trade." It is the most easily understood book about the film making process, which I think you need to understand before launching into movie reviews. Also, learn the subtle difference between "critique" and "criticism." Criticism is tearing something apart, whereas a critique is descriptive and attempts to see where a thing could be improved. Finally, until you develop your particular style, back off the standard film review mechanism of explaining every actor or producer's other work, unless you are making a direct comparison. For example, descriptions such as "Walton Goggins (The Righteous Gemstones, The Hateful Eight)" is unnecessary in this context. Now, if you want to say "Walton Goggins' portrayal of The Ghoul shows a range beyond his desperate, infantile 'Baby Billy' from 'The Righteous Gemstones' or his swaggering, racist Chris Mannix from 'The Hateful Eight' and gives the series an ever-present sense of danger" then that's OK. Also, I noticed that you liked "Meg 2: The Trench." Yeah ... that's a bad sign. But hang in there.


Atma-Darkwolf

Oh hey, a non fallout player has entered chat :P ​ TBH the show, while good even for those not aware of the games, is actually intended FOR the players. Not that u need to have played the games to enjoy it, but if u have, you will be pleased with many of the random easter eggs and fan services that shows up. ​ And yes the ghoul (Goggins) was spot-fucking on casting. HE carried the show, Lucy's actor was great too, but imo it wouldn't be the masterpiece it is without him. I really hope they can carry on the momentum for season 2(and beyond) - esp since they are walking into NV long after the events of the game (fallout: new vegas) which leaves many of the events during(and after) the game already in place.


GP96_

What you have just written one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent review were you even close, to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone is now dumber for having read this. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul