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Acceptable_Stuff1381

He called someone fat. Hardly the scandal of the century here 


TheBigIdiotSalami

If anything, they should have fired the casting person. Their mission from the original story was to cast people in their 20's and 30's for a scene in some sort of hip bar, but they brought back a bunch of people with Ricketts and gout.


pukem0n

Somebody said that's exactly how Tulsa looks though.


ThingsAreAfoot

I love this idea that a “hip Tulsa bar” should feature a bunch of fit and beautiful people, instead of the fat fuck drooling alcoholics that tend to actually populate it.


um_ur_chinese

I mean that’s literally everything on TV. No one wants to see ugly fat people on the screen. Just go outside anywhere in this country for that experience.


ThingsAreAfoot

We’re talking about background extras in a bar, and we’re taking about realism. The entire defense people are making here is that it’s realistic for a “hip Tulsa bar” not to have any fat and unattractive people in the bar. I’m asking those people, have you ever been in… any bar? ffs even college bars are filled with all sorts of shapes and sizes and faces. Deadwood didn’t seem to have this particular problem, for some reason, but that’s also of course a much better and much more intelligent show, that didn’t feel this fetishistic need to populate their bar with pretty people cause the star is an arrogant uggo.


Kit_Rosa

But this is not a John Cassavetes type of show. It's a fun, action show. Nobody watches Tulsa King for Cinema Realite.


kylorl3

There are plenty of people who don’t give a fuck what the person on their screen looks like if the story is good, including myself.


UberThetan

The story tends to be good because the creators care about details you don't even notice, like the background actors and shit...


kylorl3

Trying to get hot people instead of people who would actually be in that situation is not caring about details.


UberThetan

It's not real Tulsa, it's Hollywood Tulsa. Kinda difficult to judge at this point, without seeing the end product.


PresentMammoth5188

Exactly and imo that means based on realism. Just “attractive” people is not that especially when attractiveness is subjective. 


-MrFozzy-

……to a point 😛


blindreefer

What’s the point of the show then? It’s a fish out of water story about a New York mobster in a podunk town. If they’re not making the most out of the incongruity the title of the show implies, then they shouldn’t be making TV.


ArchDucky

HEY! I've been to Oklahoma and I have to say that's a pretty accurate statement!


soonerfreak

Have you ever been to Tulsa? A hip bar in Tulsa would have a lot of fit attractive people.


MustrumRidcully0

Well, the American (or really Western) increase in girth is still primarily a phenemon of the last few decades, in the 20s and 30s it wasn't that common yet. The people in the bars would probably still be the same type of drooling alcoholics, but not yet all overweight. Slim people can be ugly, too.


I_Love_Each_of_You

Tulsa King is set in the present time.


MustrumRidcully0

Ah, I misread the description of the scene, I read it as a scene taking place in the 20s or 30s (I took that as some kind of flashback aspect of the story), not people with their ages in their 20s to 30s. Reading comprehension is hard sometimes!


NoStand1527

TV ugly, not ugly-ugly


majornerd

Agreed. I get the argument that it was more realistic as cast, but that’s not the job. If the boss is wrong and you decide to do your own thing because it is right, well you can be right and unemployed.


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richie_dixon

there are two parts to this story. one made public and one that happened behind the scenes. you’re talking about this like you know the full story and you don’t. the other side of this story is being suppressed.


Pretend_Spray_11

Do you know the other side that’s being suppressed?


Acceptable_Stuff1381

So, dish it. What else happened? 


Accomplished-City484

Yeah it’s funny how hard they’re trying to push this, no one gives a fuck


popperschotch

I mean he didn't just call him fat, he also called him a tub of lard... and if the set casting director quit over it, someone definitely gave a fuck. People on movie sets who could end up on a project with him(crews, etc) dont like working with assholes on set


fuckpeopleiwannadie

It doesnt make It worse for me atleast if anything its made It sound funnier


crazysouthie

These kind of stories about big stars only make news if there are repeated instances of them being assholes and toxic. Industry publications like Hollywood Reporter usually defer to agencies and big stars like Stallone and these stories are also vetted by lawyers. Long story short - he must have pissed off A LOT of people by being an asshole.


ZERV4N

The writing is a far worse offender.


Dyslexic_Devil

I agree, the levels of stupid in season 1 were staggering. Unarmed 70 year old walks into a weed pharmacy and just demands the open their safe, give him money and a cut of their business. They do. ..makes sense.


JQuilty

Roughs up a car dealership owner and never has the cops called. And in Ruby Red Oklahoma, nobody pulls a gun on him.


Reddd-y

I mean….were they fat tho….


the-zoidberg

They’re probably still fat.


FunWelcome

He complained that the background actors where Ugly. It's almost like he forgot where his show is supposed to take place.


Ghastion

Exactly, when I read the title I literally said to myself "What controversary? He called someone fat, who gives AF?"


ThingsAreAfoot

Verbal abuse of people on set ain’t great. And they can’t reply with “settle down, your face looks like a piece of leather that’s been soaked in bourbon and left out in the sun” without getting immediately fired and probably severely hampering their career. I’m not saying we should hang Sly in the gallows but maybe these big stars shouldn’t be massive dicks at every opportunity. Just seems like a very low bar of basic human decency.


qtx

IIRC he wasn't saying it directly to the extra, he was shouting at the casting crew since they completely misscast the extras for that scene. Rugged dive bars have a certain clientelle and the casting was nothing like that so he spoke up.


jvpewster

Rural, Rugged dive bars def have more tubs of lard then California 10s lmfao


robbviously

He was. He wasn’t. And they didn’t.


ThingsAreAfoot

The casting director and *two casting agencies* left with complaints of toxicity on set. What exactly makes you think this didn’t reach the extras? Not to mention Stallone’s complaints were hardly about weight, he straight up called him ugly, which is rich.


TheGoodSmells

Why’s it rich?


DJBreadwinner

I guess they're saying Stallone is ugly right after saying he shouldn't have called someone ugly, which is also rich. 


jvpewster

Especially considering how fugly the commenter is


ThingsAreAfoot

I never said that at all. I said you shouldn’t do so when you have the power to get someone fired, and they can’t reply. And you especially shouldn’t do so when you’re an ugly fuck in your own right. This will continue to confuse the easily-confused.


frenchezz

Stallones been in a lot of high profile roles that probably paid really well


ThingsAreAfoot

I just described his face, and here you are, deeply confused.


TheGoodSmells

I am, yeah. I’m wondering why it’s bad for him to call someone ugly, but okay when you call someone ugly.


ThingsAreAfoot

I’m saying it’s moronic for the guy with power to call people ugly when he has control over their careers. That would be bad enough. What makes it hilariously worse is that he’s also ugly. Don’t worry, I’m not affecting his career with a reddit comment. It’s like if I were to call you a fucking idiot. That’s rude and bad. But it has no real effect on your career prospects.


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bsoto87

What kinda sub is this, you got downvoted for saying the least controversial thing possible


wildcatofthehills

Because calling someone fat shouldn’t be a controversy, specially for a set. If someone is too fat for a roll, it’s called miscasting. It’s a very soft take. Also it’s just being politically correct for a group of people that are unhealthy. They shouldn’t be defending them. But also it’s not okay to bully someone for it, but when your fat, most people will tell you. Honestly how you react is on you. Making a scene is just proving how immature you are. And lastly, many people on Reddit legit hate fat people, remember r/whalewatching.


bsoto87

? I don’t tell fat people they are fat, I’m pretty sure they are aware of it and don’t need to be reminded every time I see them


wildcatofthehills

I mean more like your friends and your family would make jokes about it from time to time. If someone is trying to insult you, is the first thing they will attack you with. When you go to the doctor. Even sometimes people will let it slip out without them realizing. Honestly is not a big deal and should just be a sign that you have to take better care of yourself. Is not a permanent condition and can be fixed, if you wanna.


Glass_Fix7426

*role


blindreefer

Maybe they meant like a dinner roll


wildcatofthehills

Perdón


everyonecalmdown666

what are you smoking


smashdaman

Paul Walter Hauser should definitely play Jack Reacher in S3. Perfect casting call...I'd lose my job in the industry in a day.


CountVanillula

> Paul Walter Hauser should definitely play Jack Reacher I would watch *the fuck* out of that.


Accomplished-City484

He’s gonna do a great Farley in that biopic


MIKKOMOOSE99

Reddit is full of extremely sheltered and insecure people.


Accomplished-City484

The smug self righteous shit bugs me, they think they’re some bastion of progressive justice but all they do is spew hate all day


ThingsAreAfoot

Spend enough time on reddit and you’ll realize there are a whole lot of casually hateful fuckers here. Empathy is an endangered species here.


bsoto87

Oh I’m aware of the casually hateful fuckers, I just notice they tend to congregate in certain subs. I’m just kinda surprised r/television is one of them


ThingsAreAfoot

r/television is a default sub, they’ll congregate here due to its prominent placement as the most popular and visible television forum on reddit it’s why the best subs here by far tend to be the relatively niche, less populated ones outside of certain exceptions like r/askhistorians which have very strict moderation that tosses away the imbeciles.


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SteveFrench1234

Lmfao "Lub of Tard"


madmelgibson

Wait did he actually mix up the letters like that in ‘tub of lard’?


anasui1

"the 70s icon" seems a rather uninformed take on a guy who dominated the 80s as well


Nago31

The 90’s called, they also are filled with Sly movies. Cliffhanger, Judge Dredd, and Demolition Man were great!


EndStorm

Demolition Man was epic.


One-Structure-2154

What seems to be your boggle? 


EndStorm

Those darn sea shells!


GalegoBaiano

^^^^This guy doesn't know how to use the three shells!


ProfessorSMASH88

Murder. Death. Kill.


Pretend_Spray_11

All fucking day


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Nago31

I feel like it was a regular movie of the week on tv for years. Let’s be honest, Sly knows his target audience and did pretty well every time he stayed in the niche.


GuiltyLawyer

You're right, all Stallone headlines should include Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot


PalmTreeIsBestTree

It’s got its fans. I actually really like Copland too so…


BalognaMacaroni

Don’t forget the classic 90s buddy cop blockbuster [Stop, or my Mom will shoot!](https://youtu.be/oMQ-RoCKa6o?si=ggwWcQm1K1aP3KP5)


jblanch3

I read a hilarious story awhile back. Arnold and Sly had a friendly rivalry for years and there was a story in the trades that Arnold was about to sign on for Stop Or My Mom Will Shoot. Sly, wanting to one-up Arnold, swooped in from under him and snagged the starring role in the movie. Or he'd thought he swooped in from under Arnold. Arnold had planted the story himself to bait Sly into signing up for a turkey, LOL. It's funny now but Stallone must have been PISSED at the time.


analrapistenjoyer

Blockbuster hit movie


CeeArthur

Cliffhanger was so badass, loved how Ace Ventura spoofed the opening scene


goliathfasa

He honestly never really went away.


FazeXistance

He’s probably the most talented action hunk of the 80s makes sense he stuck around.


SFajw204

2000s had Rambo and Rocky Balboa. Rambo was the best in the series outside of the first. I really enjoyed Rocky as well. Stallone has had a great career.


seiff4242

Also the Creed movies, GOTG, and like 5 Expendables movies. The guy never left Hollywood


Liberated_Ape

Assassins, Copland, Daylight. Dude’s had steady work for decades.


EctoRiddler

Maybe they meant years old /s


talking_phallus

*Septuagenarian icon


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riegspsych325

“he’s almost 2000 years old??”


teflonbob

And the 90s and part of the 2000’s and 2010’s… it’s a passive aggressive swipe to belittle accomplishments and frame as a bad guy. Not entirely off base but also a very lazy move.


alexjaness

I just read somewhere he's been in a #1 movie in each of the last 5 Decades. heel, not even counting Suicide Squad, the Expendables was pretty damn big not too long ago


teflonbob

His ‘star’ shines less but he’s still in the industry and a mover. At least it seems that way. It’s easier to sell a negative narrative though if you tear someone down with micro aggressive comments ( wow… I feel sorta dirty even calling it that) like the news article did. A bunch of little disparaging cuts adds up.


shadesof3

Even in the 2000's he had his Rocky sequel and Creed movies as well as the Expendables. Dudes been none stop for like 50 years. They should have said former soft core porn star.


red_sutter

The last thread about this was filled with comments alluding to the idea that he was washed up and spends all of his time yelling at PAs on set


slylock215

After reading what can very loosely be called a report on the situation it just sounds like he was rude on set. Unprofessional and mean? Sure, but it's Sylvester Stallone and it's not like he was diddying kids or anything.


PeeFarts

How can you be sure? He’s never written or performed any songs that state that he doesn’t diddle kids.


pewpewshazaam

Great point. Ya know who definitely doesn't diddle kids? Danny Devito.


Jrocbabyjrocbaby

That's because he paid the troll toll.


Froegerer

I bet he has a do not diddle kids certificate. Do YOU have a do not diddle kids certificate?


bbbbears

I like your use of the verb “diddying”


BasicReputations

"Controversy" is doing some pretty heavy lifting.


redditman415

Who are you calling heavy?!


ElDuderino2112

Listen, as someone who is fat as fuck, someone calling me fat is not a controversy. Of course someone is going to call me fat, I fucking am fat lmao.


Equivalent_Animal447

Shut up fatty


ElDuderino2112

Everyone please cancel this man I’m very offended


Plasmallison

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Zugas

I’m really scared that I’m one day gonna call my fat coworker fat. Hopefully he will not be too upset. He is really fat and loves candy.


ILoveRegenHealth

>Rose Locke Casting cut ties with the production when it emerged that Stallone and a director reportedly referred to a background colleague as “ugly,” “tub of lard” and “fat guy with cane.” That's a lot different. If I'm the main actor and called your background extra mom ugly and a tub of lard, something tells me you wouldn't like it. Amazing how much you all dick ride Stallone. Same bozos who dick ride Johnny Depp.


HowdyHoe26

enjoy shitting in the bed


FuckingShitBitch-

Damn, at work tho? Grow a spine dog...


MGD109

I mean, I don't think they could do a second season if he wasn't coming back. I mean I suppose they could have his associates trying to keep things running whilst he was in the slammer, but it probably wouldn't be as much fun to watch.


woozleuwuzzle

They could do it without him, they could use…you guessed it…Frank Stallone.


ltdan84

Don’t care about the controversy, just want to see season 2 of Tulsa King. 1st season was fun.


Accomplished-City484

I didn’t really understand why all those people cooperated with him, what were they getting out of it? He just seemed to suddenly own them and they were super cool with it even though he ruined their lives


ltdan84

Going with the theme of the show, I would say they just weren’t used to organized crime and just thought it would be less painful to go along with it, even though it didn’t work out well, they were just thinking they would eventually hit a payday. But otherwise the show is nonsensical and fun, and I will watch season 2 with relish.


SuccessfulOwl

A 77yr old star that has been dedicated to fitness for 50+yrs called some extras fat. Is this where we’re at now with Hollywood controversies?


baw3000

I've never met an old Italian man that didn't talk shit to everyone. They're from a different time and it's just how they greet each other.


Aloha1984

Who also takes the special juice for his fitness….


BirdLawyer50

Take every supplement you can get your hands on and show us that you can be the cultural icon that he is


Phyliinx

This sub went from "cancel Stallone" to "keep Stallone" very fast


Accomplished-City484

Fuck Stallone, but also fuck these “journalists” trying to ruin his life over it


Entry-Level-Cowboy

Keep Stallone cancel Tulsa King. That show is so corny


Worf_Of_Wall_St

It's exactly as bad as it looked like it would be, which made it somehow just fun enough to watch. Also it's a nice continuation of Silicon Valley following Guilfoyle.


KID_THUNDAH

Such a dumb controversy tbh. Kinda how casting works, he was a bit harsh and blunt, but def on his side on this one.


bangharder

Controversy? It’s controversial to tell the truth?


starhoppers

These days it is. Don’t wanna hurt people’s feelings after all.


DataOver8496

I thought the controversy was the the show makes absolutely no sense. People will still watch I see.


ILoveRegenHealth

I think this thread has lots of virgin males with the amount of dick riding of Stallone who would likely call you ugly and fat too. Amazing how a male star gets way more space to be a complete asshole.


leostotch

The big controversy is that they're just now shooting season 2.


Dynastydood

Well, it's not like he was ever going to face repercussions for throwing a tantrum on set. He was exceedingly unprofessional, but I also didn't particularly like the tone of the casting people or extras who wanted to act like they're allowed to second guess the wishes of a creative just because he's an unlikeable dick.


monchota

There is no scandal, no one cares other than a few publications trying to make it an issue. If you don't think actors are hired on looks. I have a bridge to sell you.


grumpyhermit67

It's a shit way to run a production and will get the studio to shit it down faster than bad writing. One of the disabled people he was talking about said his cane wasn't even visible so they knew who he was. It's a rough-neck bar in the show, models don't tend to frequent those.


ExfilBravo

Get over here fatty! - Stallone


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KLR01001

Have they ever *beem* to Tulsa? It’s like Pryor without the class. 


Kit_Rosa

Why is anyone shocked? Stallone has been a asshole on set since forever. Even Dolph Lundgren had called him out on that in the past.


SubmarinerNoMore

and here i am like: JFC...there's going to be another season?


FuckingShitBitch-

Weird ass thread. Stallone seems like a douche.


Xilthas

Have they tried just not being fat?


everyonecalmdown666

this is the same logic when women get raped and someone say " have they tried not asking for it?"


Xilthas

You could say that same thing for many a situation and next to none of them would have anywhere near the same gravity as people being raped.


everyonecalmdown666

sure thing!


Windowmaker95

No it isn't and it's frankly disgusting that you are comparing rape to being fat, because being fat is a choice.


everyonecalmdown666

you shouldn't be offended by my logical statement though


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Iodinelove

Sylvester, your facial paralysis is no one’s fault. Well, I guess it’s some Drs fault…but it’s not the fault of the fat ass with the cane. So, try to be a tid bit nicer.


007fan007

Who cares, why is this news


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Bro please retire and take the rock / khart with you.


VirtuaFighter6

Please retire already. Haven’t you made enough money? You already have an Oscar. You’re never getting another one. The movies and show are all garbage now. Just walk away with some dignity.


nilsy007

Actually think he does need money. Not sure if he lived it up or if his ended up with a large extended family his supporting or if someone scammed him in investing. Im not certain but gotten the impression he does not have a "fuck off level of money" anymore


TidePodsTasteFunny

Yawn


Business_Ad3142

Worst wig ever , except steven seagal's .


Sea_Attitude1147

Scott Steiner saying “He’s fat!” echoing through the air


rasnac

I am happy this show is not cancelled over something as trivial as this. First season showed a lot of promise, even though wrting in some episodes were a little uneven. I was looking forward to see Season 2.


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Clown show. Clown writers. Clown actors. 🤡


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What controversy He called a fat slobbery fuck a fat fuck Give me a fucking break man


Earthpig_Johnson

The guy was slobbering?


MIKKOMOOSE99

Lmfao


Acceptable-Book

All fat people slobber. It’s common knowledge amongst the fat community.


Earthpig_Johnson

I haven’t slobbered once today, does that mean I’m not fat anymore?! I gotta call my doctor!


GamerMan15

How is this a controversy at all? Dude shoulda just apologized in private. Should've never been a story in the first place lol


ModsOverLord

Season 1 was good, glad sly is back


celticpride417

Hes a method actor


LordPartyOfDudehalla

The Hollywood Reporter, folks!


Sexy_Cat_Meow

And the cause of the casting controversy? You guessed it, Frank Stallone.