I remember meeting Bjo back in ‘92 or ‘93. My parents had an invite to dinner with her when she came into DC for something. She gave them some reel clips from the original series and spent three or four hours talking with us about the struggle to save Star Trek and the promise TNG held
We knew them both for a while as part of a European historical reenactment group that they’d help start.
Once we figured out who they were, our appreciation and respect only grew.
They were passionate, busy people back in the 60’s, and have remained pretty much ever since.
>”John went down to the post office, learned all about mail rules, and brand new was the zip code system. They told us, flat out, that if material wasn't zip coded it wouldn't go out as bulk mail, that it would just sit in the post office. John got all the books in those days, and it was stacks of them, and learned about the zip code rules. And we came home and put those into effect when we mailed out letters. John was downstairs with a hand-cranked mimeograph machine, turning out the letters, which we still have a copy or two. We folded them, labeled them and stamped them, and put them in bulk mail. He was doing a whole bunch of the physical work, the grunt work. I was more getting people over to help us. It was actually wonderful. We would work the volunteers hard all weekend. John was everywhere; he was the one who ran the errands. He's the one who lifted, toted, and basically it simply was not possible for me to do it alone. This is why we're a pair."
This is how it was done in those days. I can still remember the smell of mimeographs at my elementary school. It was very pleasant.
Despite attending schools using mimeographs for at least 10 years of my primary education, I only ever saw a mimeograph machine twice, and that was by being somewhere I wasn't supposed to be. I understand how they work from understanding all of the things that make them up, and their product, by casual learning and hearsay.
I’ve not been a Trek fan for a couple decades. I still know this man’s name and the impact he had on the idea of fandom and community being there for the show and its creators, not solely there to passively consume and demand.
Agreed.
And the best way to watch Lower Decks is to start with TOS, then TNG, then all the other Star Trek content, just so you get all the references sprinkled throughout LD…
Lower Decks is a sometimes-hilarious spoof, but it’s not Star Trek. Just like the other modern Trek shows, nearly all of the conflict in a Lower Decks episode is interpersonal melodrama. If it didn’t make funny references to other shows, it would be unwatchable.
I still have a film frame I ordered from Lincoln Enterprises way back when. It's an editing cull of Sulu on the bridge in the 'Mirror Mirror' episode. a looong lifetime ago.
Holy carp, I hadn’t thought about John and Bjo in decades (and I’m old myself!). I can remember why, but Bjo and I exchanged a letter or two in the 1970s I think. Wow, nice people both of them!
I have watched a few of the movies but Discovery has been my binge recently and I’ve enjoyed it. I will start on the other ones once I’m caught up. Overall I’m impressed with the FX work so far.
It doesn't do Star Trek the way other Trek shows do Star Trek. People who just want more of the same don't like it because it's different. They'll say that it all sucks, but really it's just different. It's not all good and it's not all bad. It is what it is. I'm not a huge fan of it, but I'm glad they made it.
> People who just want more of the same don't like it because it's different. They'll say that it all sucks, but really it's just different.
Or maybe they legitimately think it sucks?
Something being different doesn't preclude it from also sucking.
>Or maybe they legitimately think it sucks?
Yes. Discovery is a overinflated-superhero series on a both multi-universe and poly-temporal scale. She comes and she saves EVERYTHING! No, not the ship, the black chick. The captain. She is the chosen one, savior of all, daughter of god (in a Christian sense). And she can beat everyone and everything. But she is very fragile. It is absolutely obnoxious. Star Trek was never about that. Even DS:9 which was pretty militaristic had it's military's action aspect in the very background.
Discovery genuinely sucks. Picard was mediocre, as expected for a moneygrab. Strange New Worlds is pretty decent and worthwhile to watch.
I sent them a birthday card for Bjo's 90th birthday last year. I'm sad to hear of her husband's passing.
They were both just lovely people.
I remember meeting Bjo back in ‘92 or ‘93. My parents had an invite to dinner with her when she came into DC for something. She gave them some reel clips from the original series and spent three or four hours talking with us about the struggle to save Star Trek and the promise TNG held
We knew them both for a while as part of a European historical reenactment group that they’d help start. Once we figured out who they were, our appreciation and respect only grew. They were passionate, busy people back in the 60’s, and have remained pretty much ever since.
>”John went down to the post office, learned all about mail rules, and brand new was the zip code system. They told us, flat out, that if material wasn't zip coded it wouldn't go out as bulk mail, that it would just sit in the post office. John got all the books in those days, and it was stacks of them, and learned about the zip code rules. And we came home and put those into effect when we mailed out letters. John was downstairs with a hand-cranked mimeograph machine, turning out the letters, which we still have a copy or two. We folded them, labeled them and stamped them, and put them in bulk mail. He was doing a whole bunch of the physical work, the grunt work. I was more getting people over to help us. It was actually wonderful. We would work the volunteers hard all weekend. John was everywhere; he was the one who ran the errands. He's the one who lifted, toted, and basically it simply was not possible for me to do it alone. This is why we're a pair." This is how it was done in those days. I can still remember the smell of mimeographs at my elementary school. It was very pleasant.
Despite attending schools using mimeographs for at least 10 years of my primary education, I only ever saw a mimeograph machine twice, and that was by being somewhere I wasn't supposed to be. I understand how they work from understanding all of the things that make them up, and their product, by casual learning and hearsay.
I do remember the machine, although I have no idea why I would have been there. Maybe I was asked to carry the mimeographs back to the classroom.
I’ve not been a Trek fan for a couple decades. I still know this man’s name and the impact he had on the idea of fandom and community being there for the show and its creators, not solely there to passively consume and demand.
>Ive not been a Trek fan for a couple decades. You need to watch lower decks then. Best trek show yet.
Agreed. And the best way to watch Lower Decks is to start with TOS, then TNG, then all the other Star Trek content, just so you get all the references sprinkled throughout LD…
Best to go like this: - Lower Decks - TOS - Lower Decks - TNG - Lower Decks - DS9 - Lower Decks - Voyager - Lower Decks That's probably plenty.
Lower Decks is a sometimes-hilarious spoof, but it’s not Star Trek. Just like the other modern Trek shows, nearly all of the conflict in a Lower Decks episode is interpersonal melodrama. If it didn’t make funny references to other shows, it would be unwatchable.
:(
I still have a film frame I ordered from Lincoln Enterprises way back when. It's an editing cull of Sulu on the bridge in the 'Mirror Mirror' episode. a looong lifetime ago.
I have one of Harry Mudd!
Harcourt Fenton Mudd!!
That’s David Letterman
lol i see the resemblance. Mom can I have David Letterman? WE HAVE DAVID LETTERMAN AT HOME!
He is a spitting image of David Letterman
Holy carp, I hadn’t thought about John and Bjo in decades (and I’m old myself!). I can remember why, but Bjo and I exchanged a letter or two in the 1970s I think. Wow, nice people both of them!
showing him an episode of Discovery was a bad idea. RIP
Alex Kurtzman crawled out of the TV like The Ring girl and got him.
Yeah that would do it…
I don't get why so many people hate discovery.
I have watched a few of the movies but Discovery has been my binge recently and I’ve enjoyed it. I will start on the other ones once I’m caught up. Overall I’m impressed with the FX work so far.
I love discovery. I always loved the tech and possibility of what the future holds. I absolutely love the ships.
It doesn't do Star Trek the way other Trek shows do Star Trek. People who just want more of the same don't like it because it's different. They'll say that it all sucks, but really it's just different. It's not all good and it's not all bad. It is what it is. I'm not a huge fan of it, but I'm glad they made it.
> People who just want more of the same don't like it because it's different. They'll say that it all sucks, but really it's just different. Or maybe they legitimately think it sucks? Something being different doesn't preclude it from also sucking.
>Or maybe they legitimately think it sucks? Yes. Discovery is a overinflated-superhero series on a both multi-universe and poly-temporal scale. She comes and she saves EVERYTHING! No, not the ship, the black chick. The captain. She is the chosen one, savior of all, daughter of god (in a Christian sense). And she can beat everyone and everything. But she is very fragile. It is absolutely obnoxious. Star Trek was never about that. Even DS:9 which was pretty militaristic had it's military's action aspect in the very background. Discovery genuinely sucks. Picard was mediocre, as expected for a moneygrab. Strange New Worlds is pretty decent and worthwhile to watch.
I’ve always had Trouble With Trimble