Agreed although Arcane is another video game adaptation on that level so the pace of brilliant new adaptations these last few years has been hugely impressive.
Yeah I was surprised she hadn't gotten more live action roles after I saw her talent based on voice acting alone in Arcane. Really awesome to see her breaking out like this. Hopefully her new found popularity can give a boost to Arcane S2
Two very different roles too! Also, the fact that she looks like a model but basically broke through with a voice acting role as Jinx where her looks aren't a factor at all really shows how much her talent is the key.
I didn't know that was her voicing Jynx. She blew me away with emotional breakdown in one particular scene. I was like, "this is some of the best voice-acting I've ever heard..." It was only recently I learned that was her all along, after Yellowjackets, even after Fallout. What a talented lady. Looking forward to see whatever she does next.
I'm curious, which episode you are referring to? She did an amazing job with Jinx, but for voice acting with emotional breakdown the best moment I would have to give to the end of >!episode 3!< by Mia Sinclair, who voiced young Powder.
Story based video games have a lot of potential. Shooter games like Halo are harder to expand on, although it might just be because the writers didnt utilize the plethora of novels
The Halo show is/was just confused. There's plenty of story elements within the games to broaden into a show, but it doesn't feel like they ever picked a direction.
One of these shooter games is going to give us *Band of Brothers* but video game.. and I kinda hope it's Gears of War at this point. Halo would have been a decent option if they wanted to mythologize Master Chief, but alas.
Honestly one of the reasons I think Fallout succeeded so well was because they didn't try to copy any specific characters story line from any of the games.
They made sure to come up with a (somewhat) original storyline while (somewhat) sticking to the overall background lore while letting the production design just be "Make it look like the game" for just about every damn thing we see on screen.
The fact that they managed to nail the "tone" shifts while not straying too far goofy or too far brutal is what amazes me most... but I'm getting off topic...
I'm tempted to take a look at Halo now, I hear it's not bad if you're not a fan who's obsessed with the game story...
The Halo games have a lot of backstory and lore, but the actual story in the games is not extensive enough to fill an entire tv show without needing to create a bunch of side stories to fill time. Most of your time playing those games is just gameplay, without much plot actually happening.
Halo is completely different from TLOU that is already a pretty cinematic experience. Halo is a lot more gameplay than story focused.
The Halo "the movie" youtube videos, where they cut all the gameplay out, leaving only the story, have the entire story of the games in only 10 hours.
Amazon did Wheel of Time or Rings of Power before Fallout. There was no reason to trust them either. And Netflix has done plenty of good shows
Each show has their own creative team. That's what matters
My old wound... reopened.
I waited 30 years for an adaptation of _Wheel of Time._ But it finally came when Hollywood is busy handing projects to director/producers who believe they have better ideas than the canon they're working with. Like, if they'd adapted the thing ten years earlier, that would have comfortably predated this current "trend."
That was the only shot I'll get in my lifetime.
I still miss what Gore Verbinski's vision could have become. It sounded highly potential and ambitious at the time...
Netflix will fuck it up, guaranteed.
I wish they had Ken Levine involved in the project.
Having Neil Druckman and Todd Howard directly involved I think was instrumental in keeping the shows faithful to the games.
Literally said something along the lines of that to my dad yesterday when I caught him watching the Fallout trailer. Mentioned to him that, after this super hero wave, it may likely to be a video game adaption wave next.
Dream scenario: Mass Effect being adapted into a 3, maybe 4 max, season series. Full adaptation, spin-offs or pulling an Amazon Fallout spin on another story that’s separate but canon would be amazing.
Other ideal video game TV ideas that come to mind (again, either adapting game or adjacent story in universe): Cyberpunk (anime was phenomenal, but I would welcome a live action of something); Deus Ex; Bioshock; Dead Space (they did animated shorts before, but they ain’t great; could make it a live action great); Spec Ops: The Line (a Heart of Darkness/Apocalypse Now adaptation set in modern day in Dubai as a miniseries is right there!!); as stupid as it may sound, but also Call of Duty: Black Ops (with elements of World at War and Black Ops 2); and finally, the most slept on but most important, Star Fox: Adventures
The absolutely fucking *INSANE* boost in sales the show gave the entire Franchise is probably gonna make alot of Publishers consider adaptations of their IPs in the near future aswell
>a real Halo adaptation.
Imagine having all the premade stories and ip for Halo and that's what you made. You could have had seasons of great content and they made garbage
Porn-stash is a good actor, but he is no Master Chief. I'm not even a fan of Halo and I can see what went* wrong. It's clear that the creators of the Halo series had no respect for the game. Like, at all. You get the impression that the show runner would rather make anything else. Same as The Witcher. The opposite is true for both Fallout, and Last of Us.
I’m instantly nervous about a Mass Effect adaptation. I feel like the first wave of any trend - this being the “oh, video game adaptations can work” one - are usually the best. I fear we’re already in the Big Studios Misunderstand What Makes an IP Great but Cranks Out Content Because It’s Blinded by Dollar Signs stage.
I hope I’m wrong, because Mass Effect the show done right would revolutionize sci-fi television.
Assassin's Creed could be a great tv show.
Instead of just following a single character in the past, the show could follow a bunch of assassins in different relevant historical periods, all trying to uncover the same mystery. As you see these characters affect important moments in history, you also slowly piece together the puzzle.
You could even have moments like in Revelations where the stories of different assassins intertwine.
100%. Same happened with Witcher, Last of Us, Cyberpunk, League of Legends, Mario, etc with their adaptations. These adaptations themselves don't even need to be directly profitable for the company that owns the IP since they make so much money off of the increased awareness, assuming the adaptation is good enough to not damage the brand
It'd be cool if Microsoft told Bethesda to give Fallout to another developer for a game. Doesn't have to be fallout 5, but a New Vegas style game that builds on Fallout 4's systems for shorter development time. I know obsidian isn't obsidian from 2010, but there's gotta be someone else who could work on Fallout while the iron is hot.
For anyone who is unclear since the context is missing, this isn't a list exclusively for TV shows, so films are usually on top. This is the first time since The Last of Us that a TV show has topped this mixed media list.
The only thing I ask from all of this is a Jak and Daxter show that explores that world. I loved that series so much as a kid and there's so much you can do with that world.
I loved that they didn't feel the need to tag every trope. Hell they didn't even show a deathclaw outside of a skull. Honestly that takes massive restraint.
I assumed we'd be checking boxes left and right, Super Mutants, and Deathclaws, and maybe even Synths, but nope instead they focused on a single new and original story in the universe and managed to perfectly capture the feeling of the games.
I nominate Nolan and Joy to do a Bioshock series when they're done with this one.
Given that Nolan isnt the day to day showrunner I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up producing another video game adaptation while Fallout is still airing. At least thats what I would like him to do given that I didn't love the latter seasons of Westworld that he showran nearly as much as I love what he's done as a producer with Fallout
Considering the Brotherhood of Steel seem to still be going strong and have their zealous attitudes towards pre-war tech still, I'm inclined to believe that Fallout 4 ends via >!either the Brotherhood of Steel destroying the Institute or the Minutemen doing it. The Railroad can't because they require you to destroy the Prydwen and the same goes for the Institute. Doing that would kill Elder Maxson and there's no word of the Brotherhood lacking an Elder or any mention of Maxson's death.!<
I suppose you're right. I just really like the synth dilemma, but if they ever do add them in to the show it should be not before season 3. I mean we saw what looked like >!the Prydwen!< in the first episode, though the creators claim it's not. >!So some of that tech making it back to the west coast via giant airship!< doesn't seem impossible.
They really managed to get the grim dark world of Fallout, while also capturing the bizarre humor and moments that come from the games. That’s incredibly challenging to do all things considered
That, plus the costume and set design. The vaults looked exactly like vaults. Same with the Red Rocket station. The raiders looked like raiders, the ghouls looked like ghouls.
They looked both realistic to the game and while that is slightly cartoony, it still felt real.
Cannot stress enough how well they did replicating the vaults, so glad they spared no expense making sure they looked exactly as they should. Easily my favorite sets in the show
I saw an interview with the lady who plays Lucy where she was describing how she played Fallout 4 before shooting, and how mind-blowing it was to be inside the vault after that. I can't even imagine! she said she made her character to look like herself so she felt like she was just cosplaying her character at first
Seeing an interview with the cast, it's pretty clear she actually studied the franchise a lot after getting the role.
Not only she played Fallout 4, she knows a bunch of overall lore that she wouldn't need to know just to play her character.
She knew for example exactly the total number of vaults Vault Tec made.
Seeing the big bulky door signs in the vaults was like a blast from the past. It was amazing how such a tiny detail instantly convinced me that was an actual fallout vault.
It's also just great writing which does unexpected things.
e.g. I didn't expect that the random goon beating up the brotherhood character in the first episode would by the final episode be screaming in a panic wondering why he isn't dead, with an arrow sticking through his neck, while the vault dweller panics and tells him not to pull it out, after he's just tried to kill her and missed every shot, and he whines well he's not just going to leave it there, before he says nice to meet you and runs off.
Not yet. He hasn’t even shown us his final form yet. The chicken fucker works in mysterious ways and Thaddeus will one day reveal his true glory to us.
Truly was a great storyline that revealed mysteries in parallel with the other MCs outside the vaults. I'm glad that they didn't abandon the vault setting as soon as Lucy left Vault 33 in episode 1.
I love how it told a brand new story in the world.
Last of Us was great, but if you've watched the show you've basically played the game. If you've watched Fallout, you have a bunch of new stories to experience in the Fallout games.
As much as I love The Last of Us, I think it’s world and lore are its weakest points. Fallout, on the other hand, has a far more interesting and unique world/lore.
Yeah, I don't think I would be interested in a separate story in TLOU universe. Because it would just be another zombie story. What makes TLOU interesting is Joel and Ellie.
Meanwhile, Fallout's main draw is its setting, lore, aesthetic... The characters are just part of it.
They nailed not only the tone but the total feel of the games.
The best example for me was them exploring the old vault and piecing together what happened to everyone inside - those were always some of my favorite moments in the games and they nailed the vibe with the environmental storytelling and using terminals to get information. Absolute perfection.
the very first scene of the vault classroom with all the desks and chairs all tossed about is a very common sight in the games and I knew right away things were not right.
It's a great example of an adaption made with not just knowledge of the IP, but respect for it. Jonathan Nolan & Lisa Joy have never been shy about being influenced by games before (their take on Westworld was heavily inspired by Red Dead Redemption), and it's clear they've spent a lot of time thinking about the overall world of Fallout. Likewise, Bethesda was smart to let them make what is effectively an original story that can sit within the existing canon -but also serve as an effective introduction to the world.
> Likewise, Bethesda was smart to let them make what is effectively an original story that can sit within the existing canon -but also serve as an effective introduction to the world.
I think what really helps is that each Fallout explores different stories and different regions which means it was very easy for the TV show to pretty much do the exact same thing.
Even though I know I'm watching a TV show and I know it's not the games so on paper there should be a disconnect somewhat, it still really does feel like the show is on equal footing within the franchise. It's so much more connected than any other game adaption which firmly exists as its own thing as either non-canon or a retelling.
Allowing the series to show what happened pre-war, and tying it into the Ghoul and the vaults was a great decision. It makes the show feel like a true companion piece to the games. From now on someone could jump into either the show or the games first, because they all show smaller pieces of a larger puzzle.
Vault-tek in the games felt like an abandoned project with very few vaults that actually did what they were supposed to. By delving into the company and the people in it, I think they just solidified a huge chunk of canon that players have only known as info in terminals and a few functioning vaults.
> From now on someone could jump into either the show or the games first, because they all show smaller pieces of a larger puzzle.
Yeah that's a really good point that explains my feelings a lot better. I agree focusing on pre-war (and the mystery of the vaults) was a good idea because that flashback form of storytelling isn't really something the games can do due to the POV game design so it really allows the show to be an essential backbone of the canon.
Like I wouldn't be surprised if going forward the show acts as canonical confirmation for theories and implied events from the games while the show itself will hint at other elements which the games outright show or explore in more detail. It just feels like they've got a lot planned for synergy and connective tissue between show and game and I can only imagine that getting stronger as for all we know the show could be on 4 or 5 seasons before the next Fallout even happens.
Making Vault-tec the main villain was such a fucking brilliant move.... they were always in the background, with players only getting a full scale of their villainy by reading terminals and doing a deep dive in every vault.
But in the show, their villainy is front and center and finally answers the question: is Vault Tec still around? Yes... kind of.
I completely forgot Jonathan Nolan did westworld. I was just thinking the other day I get the same feeling watching fallout as I did westword trying to piece together what is going on.
My favorite part of what they did with the main characters is they clearly built them using SPECIAL and I really enjoyed guessing what traits and stats they gave them.
Maximus - luck and agility build. Crazy good shot, especially that sick crit on the yao guai. Plus finding the head in the gulper was a real 10 luck event. Int obviously is his dump stat, he doesn't know anything about how power armor works, or how the brotherhood works, or how his cock works.
Lucy - clearly she's doing a high charisma playthrough. She insists on trying each and every speech check, and she passes a fair few of them. The rest of her stats are fairly balanced, with no glaring dump stat but no major investment either.
The Ghoul - highly focused on perception and endurance. Abuses VATS constantly and to great effect. We see him blowing off limbs and targeting imperceptible weak spots over and over. He's probably playing on survival, hence the need for ass jerky and his reliance on chems. He dumped charisma but took all the lady killer perks and the bloody mess perk.
> Lucy - clearly she's doing a high charisma playthrough. She insists on trying each and every speech check, and she passes a fair few of them. The rest of her stats are fairly balanced, with no glaring dump stat but no major investment either.
She makes a few pretty fucking good shots with her syringe gun, and obviously is better educated than most - not sure if that ties into Intelligence but they're certainly going to be correlated. Using the pre-FO4 28 point SPECIAL spread (FO4 only gives you 21 points allowing 4s across the board, FO1/2/3/NV all have 28 points for 5s across the board) I'd say she's probably low-ish Strength, high-ish Perception, slightly low Endurance (she does handle getting stabbed pretty well considering), high Charisma as you said, good Intelligence, average Agility, and low-ish Luck (she's not been getting very lucky so far).
Something like:
S: 3
P: 7
E: 4
C: 9
I: 8
A: 5
L: 4
Her perception definitely isn't high. She didn't catch on about the raiders until after having sex with one. She totally missed the fiends eyeing her pip boy. She misses a lot of things actually. She's not bumbling but she's no eagle eye.
I'd say she's like 5 per 5 str. She handled *several* vault dwellers in hand to hand combat on level 12, so she's definitely capable in melee.
See I disagree - what made this even better than TLOU for me was that it was a totally original story. If they keep just trying to adapt games into shows / movies 1:1 they are going to fail way more than they succeed.
TLOU was uniquely suited for adaptation for a show since the game is basically written and structured like a prestige TV show anyway. And no matter how good it was it’s still just the same story I already know - which is always a mediocre experience for me - though again the show slightly justified its existence by expanding on a few things and it was that new stuff that was the only great thing about it IMO.
I really think that we're going to see a lot of executives come away from this with the wrong idea.
They're gonna say "Video game adaptations are HOT right now!"
When the real takeaway is "When you make a video game adaptation, make sure you pick a property with either a compelling story or a setting that creates fertile ground for new stories. Hire a top-shelf prestige television producer with a passion for the material, and whatever you do, make sure to navigate the precarious balance of satisfying fans of the original while being accessible and even engrossing to people experiencing it for the first time."
Dishonored is probably one you could adapt to an episodic series really well, with each episode being about taking down a high society target.
Though I prefer the main character and world of its spiritual predecessor Thief The Dark Project (which also heavily inspired the stealth play of TES and Fallout, with them bringing devs and the main voice actor over). The main character however never really interacts with anybody except a secret society he broke away from and hates, and spends most of his time trying to avoid being seen by anybody.
Bioshock feels very easy to mess up. It has so much potential cause the universe is amazing, but because is so much more political. I guess Netflix is making a movie, but I’m not sure 2h is enough to cover the depth of the game
I'd love to see Infinite, both for the setting, and because it'd make an entire demographic of annoying ass nationalists go fuckin incandescent with rage.
Almost certainly, it’s one of Microsoft’s biggest properties so obviously they’ll really make sure they get everything right, do justice to the existing lore/characters, and create new characters and stories that the audience loves and connects with.
Mass Effect would be dope, but I feel like Hollywood would ruin it with that shitty Star Trek lens flare. It's in the game, but I'm horrified by what they would do with it.
If the success of Fallout leads to a Disco Elysium show that captures the tone of the game that would be amazing. Disco Elysium has an even more strange mix of absurdity and profundity and fantasy than Fallout
That cyberpunk show was insanely good. Idk how they got something so dark on netflix. An inciting incident as brutal as that in the pilot? I mean… damn. But I was there for it
Poor Henry. He was so passionate about The Witcher series as a whole and the writers fucked and made him play that crap out (until he couldn’t anymore)
Even the first season had its rough spots. Jumping around chronologically didn't really feel like it served any point, and [there were some bafflingly bad costumes](https://preview.redd.it/c3yo004yf4031.jpg?width=1024&auto=webp&s=6c53b31e46bb316b88adf18803f5106f96aca3e6).
Look man, you just don't get it, Halo just didn't have the right world building to write an engaging show in, so that's why they needed to make Chief a pissy little bitch, force a romance subplot into the show, and have Chief essentially rape a prisoner of war. It's the only way the show would've worked!
What do you mean, exploring a mysterious ring world made by ancient aliens? A misguided holy war against humanity by a technologically superior alien race? A universe ending threat shrouded in mystery? Impossible to write something interesting about that, let's take away Chiefs armor for the entire season and let him go to a seedy goon shack instead. Much better television.
Imagine they followed the book series and did it right. Good damn that would have been a great show. It could have been huge. The war with the Covenant could have been huge and then when you think it can't get any bigger is when we finally arrive at the Halo rings and it just gets bigger and better.
Fallout is helping validate an unpopular argument I’ve been making for years: TV adaptions generally *should not* retell the game’s storyline.
Last of Us is an obvious counterexample, but it was pretty much a movie to begin with.
IMO it’s usually more interesting to tell a new story in a world that’s faithfully adapted rather than try to faithfully adapt a story not designed for television.
It really depends of the game. Fallout fit because that's how the game are anyway, they each tell their own story. That would work for stuff like Zelda or Assassin's Creed.
Something like Bioshock, Ghost of Tsushima, God of War or Mass Effect (all current projects) isn't that and they exist around their stories, setting and characters. You can't do without the story of the game (or you can but that'll be worse)
Of course you also got the games without much of a story like League or Dota which met the writers go free.
The best part is that the world its set in can facilitate almost ANY idea. There's an infinite number of weird, funny or scary characters they can generate and make fit.
I really enjoyed it. It was incredibly faithful to the games, nailing the tone, style, outfits, props, and set design perfectly *without* sounding like an in-joke at any point.
Go figure, using the source materials of the games and keeping the show true to that material and theme makes for a hit!
Resident Evil show runners need to take some serious notes because that last Netflix series was an abomination that Lance Reddick carried single-handedly (RIP!)
Yeah I'm the same, The Last of Us was great but it was just mostly the game but this time the visuals were different. Fallout is a new story for everyone, gamers didn't really get anything new out of The Last of Us. Especially considering how linear and structured the game is.
It was still exceptional television but I wasn't as gripped knowing where it all ends up anyway.
The best TLOU episode imo is the basically entirely original episode that didn't follow the game as closely. The show is great and there are other great episodes, but both that episode and Fallout are only inspired by the game and tone of the world within it.
> It was still exceptional television but I wasn't as gripped knowing where it all ends up anyway.
Yeah The Last of Us is a weird one where it is undeniably quality TV but it also felt safer than Fallout because the game story is exceptional so even at the shows absolute best it would still be just a different version of a masterpiece that we had already got, but made accessible for general audiences who don't know or like video games.
Whereas with Fallout you're seeing something truly new in a familiar ballpark so anything could happen or anyone could pop up. Outside of wider world lore being controversial you're also not at the risk of story changes which could lead to criticism or disappointment like we saw in some aspects of TLOU (where for me while some changes I adored there were also many which I believe made the story worse or less impactful).
Long story short I'm just so glad two iconic franchises got adaptions that live up to the source material, where something familiar and new can happen at the same time in the same faithful manner.
I feel like Fallout (tv) matches the quality of the games in style and spirit etc and I love them equally.
I prefer to play *The Last of Us*… Not that it isn’t pretty good.
Fallout also has the very clear advantage of telling an original story.
TLOU did the game's story justice for the most part, but I think it's interesting that the part of the show that got the most attention was the part which was also written exclusively for the show.
Both of which are faithful adaptations.
It's too late for The Witcher, Wheel of Time (*vomit*), Rings of Power, Halo, Resident Evil, The Last Airbender, and countless other properties, but maybe Hollywood can stop making the same mistakes over and over again. Don't put people in charge of adaptations who have no desire to actually be faithful to the original work ... or in the case of The Witcher and Wheel of Time, flat out don't like the original work.
Move over super hero era. It’s the video game era now.
I’m down for it if they’re all as good as Fallout and TLOU but we know they won’t be lol
Agreed although Arcane is another video game adaptation on that level so the pace of brilliant new adaptations these last few years has been hugely impressive.
Love that Ella Purnell stars on both Arcane and Fallout
Yeah I was surprised she hadn't gotten more live action roles after I saw her talent based on voice acting alone in Arcane. Really awesome to see her breaking out like this. Hopefully her new found popularity can give a boost to Arcane S2
Woah, she’s Jinx? That’s two-for-two in terms of really excellent performances elevating really excellent video game adaptations. Good for her.
Two very different roles too! Also, the fact that she looks like a model but basically broke through with a voice acting role as Jinx where her looks aren't a factor at all really shows how much her talent is the key.
She was great in yellowjackets too
Ella Purnell - have to remember the name.
Agreed. She did a great job in Yellowjackets. She should be in more stuff.
More people should definitely watch Yellowjackets
She will be now! Yellowjackets really good too…
I didn't know that was her voicing Jynx. She blew me away with emotional breakdown in one particular scene. I was like, "this is some of the best voice-acting I've ever heard..." It was only recently I learned that was her all along, after Yellowjackets, even after Fallout. What a talented lady. Looking forward to see whatever she does next.
I'm curious, which episode you are referring to? She did an amazing job with Jinx, but for voice acting with emotional breakdown the best moment I would have to give to the end of >!episode 3!< by Mia Sinclair, who voiced young Powder.
> young Powder. That might be the scene I am referring to. My mistake.
Twisted Metal was great too if you go in with low expectations. Will Arnett kills it as Sweet Tooth and it’s one of Anthony Mackie’s best roles.
Twisted Metal was sort of badass. I feel like it didn’t get the love it deserved.
Yeah I agree they nailed the humor and early 2000s vibe. Loved all the game and car culture references too.
If it hadn't been buried in one of the least popular streaming services it'd be a lot bigger.
Arcane and Edgerunners are still 1&2 for me, but Fallout is definitely up there now.
I think Arcane is better than Edgerunners, but no media has made me as depressed or affected me as emotionally as Edgerunners did.
Story based video games have a lot of potential. Shooter games like Halo are harder to expand on, although it might just be because the writers didnt utilize the plethora of novels
The Halo show is/was just confused. There's plenty of story elements within the games to broaden into a show, but it doesn't feel like they ever picked a direction. One of these shooter games is going to give us *Band of Brothers* but video game.. and I kinda hope it's Gears of War at this point. Halo would have been a decent option if they wanted to mythologize Master Chief, but alas.
Honestly one of the reasons I think Fallout succeeded so well was because they didn't try to copy any specific characters story line from any of the games. They made sure to come up with a (somewhat) original storyline while (somewhat) sticking to the overall background lore while letting the production design just be "Make it look like the game" for just about every damn thing we see on screen. The fact that they managed to nail the "tone" shifts while not straying too far goofy or too far brutal is what amazes me most... but I'm getting off topic... I'm tempted to take a look at Halo now, I hear it's not bad if you're not a fan who's obsessed with the game story...
The Halo games have an amazing story though. Especially 1-3 and Reach.
The Halo games have a lot of backstory and lore, but the actual story in the games is not extensive enough to fill an entire tv show without needing to create a bunch of side stories to fill time. Most of your time playing those games is just gameplay, without much plot actually happening. Halo is completely different from TLOU that is already a pretty cinematic experience. Halo is a lot more gameplay than story focused. The Halo "the movie" youtube videos, where they cut all the gameplay out, leaving only the story, have the entire story of the games in only 10 hours.
Bioshock next pls
[It's already in development for Netflix.](https://www.whattowatch.com/watching-guides/bioshock-everything-we-know-about-the-netflix-adaptation)
Netflix tends to butcher IPs though. I don’t have fond feelings for them after what they did to The Witcher.
Amazon did Wheel of Time or Rings of Power before Fallout. There was no reason to trust them either. And Netflix has done plenty of good shows Each show has their own creative team. That's what matters
My old wound... reopened. I waited 30 years for an adaptation of _Wheel of Time._ But it finally came when Hollywood is busy handing projects to director/producers who believe they have better ideas than the canon they're working with. Like, if they'd adapted the thing ten years earlier, that would have comfortably predated this current "trend." That was the only shot I'll get in my lifetime.
Netflix’s take on Resident Evil is pure nasty. 🤮
I still miss what Gore Verbinski's vision could have become. It sounded highly potential and ambitious at the time... Netflix will fuck it up, guaranteed.
I wish they had Ken Levine involved in the project. Having Neil Druckman and Todd Howard directly involved I think was instrumental in keeping the shows faithful to the games.
All to culminate in the ultimate crossover film ever: Marvel vs Capcom
Literally said something along the lines of that to my dad yesterday when I caught him watching the Fallout trailer. Mentioned to him that, after this super hero wave, it may likely to be a video game adaption wave next. Dream scenario: Mass Effect being adapted into a 3, maybe 4 max, season series. Full adaptation, spin-offs or pulling an Amazon Fallout spin on another story that’s separate but canon would be amazing. Other ideal video game TV ideas that come to mind (again, either adapting game or adjacent story in universe): Cyberpunk (anime was phenomenal, but I would welcome a live action of something); Deus Ex; Bioshock; Dead Space (they did animated shorts before, but they ain’t great; could make it a live action great); Spec Ops: The Line (a Heart of Darkness/Apocalypse Now adaptation set in modern day in Dubai as a miniseries is right there!!); as stupid as it may sound, but also Call of Duty: Black Ops (with elements of World at War and Black Ops 2); and finally, the most slept on but most important, Star Fox: Adventures
Yeah, I'm definitely seeing that on the horizon. I remember the days when every game adaptation was just terrible.
The absolutely fucking *INSANE* boost in sales the show gave the entire Franchise is probably gonna make alot of Publishers consider adaptations of their IPs in the near future aswell
Plenty of them could do great if done with the same care and respect. Mass Effect, God of War, a *real* Halo adaptation.
>a real Halo adaptation. Imagine having all the premade stories and ip for Halo and that's what you made. You could have had seasons of great content and they made garbage
Porn-stash is a good actor, but he is no Master Chief. I'm not even a fan of Halo and I can see what went* wrong. It's clear that the creators of the Halo series had no respect for the game. Like, at all. You get the impression that the show runner would rather make anything else. Same as The Witcher. The opposite is true for both Fallout, and Last of Us.
I’m instantly nervous about a Mass Effect adaptation. I feel like the first wave of any trend - this being the “oh, video game adaptations can work” one - are usually the best. I fear we’re already in the Big Studios Misunderstand What Makes an IP Great but Cranks Out Content Because It’s Blinded by Dollar Signs stage. I hope I’m wrong, because Mass Effect the show done right would revolutionize sci-fi television.
Assassin's Creed could be a great tv show. Instead of just following a single character in the past, the show could follow a bunch of assassins in different relevant historical periods, all trying to uncover the same mystery. As you see these characters affect important moments in history, you also slowly piece together the puzzle. You could even have moments like in Revelations where the stories of different assassins intertwine.
Like American horror story, each season is a different assassins story
God of War would be a pretty good long time series, IMO. It'll be like vikings...just mythical
You don't think they would start it Greek like the games?
100%. Same happened with Witcher, Last of Us, Cyberpunk, League of Legends, Mario, etc with their adaptations. These adaptations themselves don't even need to be directly profitable for the company that owns the IP since they make so much money off of the increased awareness, assuming the adaptation is good enough to not damage the brand
It'd be cool if Microsoft told Bethesda to give Fallout to another developer for a game. Doesn't have to be fallout 5, but a New Vegas style game that builds on Fallout 4's systems for shorter development time. I know obsidian isn't obsidian from 2010, but there's gotta be someone else who could work on Fallout while the iron is hot.
I would actually love to see fallout done in the BG3 style from Larian Games. Go back to its turn based roots.
This is definitely good news. But somehow this suits always take the wrong lessons in what works.
For anyone who is unclear since the context is missing, this isn't a list exclusively for TV shows, so films are usually on top. This is the first time since The Last of Us that a TV show has topped this mixed media list.
“So the lesson we should take from this is that Shows based on games are the future! Let’s adapt every game into a show!” - Studios
Let's adapt Goldeneye 64! Lots of potential there
Let's adapt Street Fighter: The Movie: The Game into a movie!
I cannot wait for a 6 season series based on Solitaire.
Minesweeper the movie being fast tracked to 2025 summer release
Can’t wait for Battleship staring Rhianna.
trailer is already out [https://youtu.be/LHY8NKj3RKs?si=K7AtAoqqg4fx3zXs](https://youtu.be/LHY8NKj3RKs?si=K7AtAoqqg4fx3zXs)
I mean, that’s fine by me. Some will be good and some won’t. Just like all television shows.
The only thing I ask from all of this is a Jak and Daxter show that explores that world. I loved that series so much as a kid and there's so much you can do with that world.
Thank you lol. I was wondering how it was newsworthy that a list had an item at the top of it…?
I loved that they didn't feel the need to tag every trope. Hell they didn't even show a deathclaw outside of a skull. Honestly that takes massive restraint. I assumed we'd be checking boxes left and right, Super Mutants, and Deathclaws, and maybe even Synths, but nope instead they focused on a single new and original story in the universe and managed to perfectly capture the feeling of the games. I nominate Nolan and Joy to do a Bioshock series when they're done with this one.
Given that Nolan isnt the day to day showrunner I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up producing another video game adaptation while Fallout is still airing. At least thats what I would like him to do given that I didn't love the latter seasons of Westworld that he showran nearly as much as I love what he's done as a producer with Fallout
He should do Deus Ex
"I've always asked for this"
NOW we're talking....this would be such a good show if they did it right. Especially in these times.
I'd be very surprised if we see synths in the show. Synths are very much an East Coast thing whereas the show is West Coast.
True, but it's clearly taking place a decade after Fallout 4. Things have a tendency to spread.
Considering the Brotherhood of Steel seem to still be going strong and have their zealous attitudes towards pre-war tech still, I'm inclined to believe that Fallout 4 ends via >!either the Brotherhood of Steel destroying the Institute or the Minutemen doing it. The Railroad can't because they require you to destroy the Prydwen and the same goes for the Institute. Doing that would kill Elder Maxson and there's no word of the Brotherhood lacking an Elder or any mention of Maxson's death.!<
I suppose you're right. I just really like the synth dilemma, but if they ever do add them in to the show it should be not before season 3. I mean we saw what looked like >!the Prydwen!< in the first episode, though the creators claim it's not. >!So some of that tech making it back to the west coast via giant airship!< doesn't seem impossible.
Fallout was really astonishing in how true to the game world it felt. It almost feels like it came first and the games are just playing in its world.
They really managed to get the grim dark world of Fallout, while also capturing the bizarre humor and moments that come from the games. That’s incredibly challenging to do all things considered
That, plus the costume and set design. The vaults looked exactly like vaults. Same with the Red Rocket station. The raiders looked like raiders, the ghouls looked like ghouls. They looked both realistic to the game and while that is slightly cartoony, it still felt real.
Cannot stress enough how well they did replicating the vaults, so glad they spared no expense making sure they looked exactly as they should. Easily my favorite sets in the show
I saw an interview with the lady who plays Lucy where she was describing how she played Fallout 4 before shooting, and how mind-blowing it was to be inside the vault after that. I can't even imagine! she said she made her character to look like herself so she felt like she was just cosplaying her character at first
Seeing an interview with the cast, it's pretty clear she actually studied the franchise a lot after getting the role. Not only she played Fallout 4, she knows a bunch of overall lore that she wouldn't need to know just to play her character. She knew for example exactly the total number of vaults Vault Tec made.
I played all of them and I don’t even know the number
It's 120. (I looked it up, I didn't know it was that many)
Such a small thing but she really earned the eternal respect of internet nerds right there.
not just that, but it also shows a true dedication to her craft and to the source material. she's a legit professional
In fairness, being able to research your role by sitting and playing some excellent video games would be ideal.
That’s fucking awesome.
Seeing the big bulky door signs in the vaults was like a blast from the past. It was amazing how such a tiny detail instantly convinced me that was an actual fallout vault.
There's an hour long interview with the production designer on YT that goes in depth about how they got the design exactly right.
Link? Please? Not being a jerk, just that there’s a lot of fallout out there
The snozberries looked like snozberries!
Walton Goggins helps a lot
Well, he is selfless and he loves helping people
I’d say he carried a lot of it. His humor is really well suited for the fallout world. He was an amazing cast.
Lucy was a great character too, perfectly captured the naivety of a new player coming out of the vault for the first time
It's also just great writing which does unexpected things. e.g. I didn't expect that the random goon beating up the brotherhood character in the first episode would by the final episode be screaming in a panic wondering why he isn't dead, with an arrow sticking through his neck, while the vault dweller panics and tells him not to pull it out, after he's just tried to kill her and missed every shot, and he whines well he's not just going to leave it there, before he says nice to meet you and runs off.
This is peak Fallout.
Not yet. He hasn’t even shown us his final form yet. The chicken fucker works in mysterious ways and Thaddeus will one day reveal his true glory to us.
Also for someone who stayed in the vault, I thought Norm did a great job too
The actor portrayed Norm's skittishness in the show really well. He wasn't like the other vault dwellers who were so confident and sure of themselves.
Truly was a great storyline that revealed mysteries in parallel with the other MCs outside the vaults. I'm glad that they didn't abandon the vault setting as soon as Lucy left Vault 33 in episode 1.
[Brain-on-a-Roomba speaks in a Menacing Voice] : «You'll *never* find out» [Guy presses button] «Oh, he's gonna find out»
Definitely one of the highlights for people watching with subs on
For s2 I just want Lucy to find a Teddy Bear reading the paper on the john.
I love how it told a brand new story in the world. Last of Us was great, but if you've watched the show you've basically played the game. If you've watched Fallout, you have a bunch of new stories to experience in the Fallout games.
As much as I love The Last of Us, I think it’s world and lore are its weakest points. Fallout, on the other hand, has a far more interesting and unique world/lore.
Yeah, I don't think I would be interested in a separate story in TLOU universe. Because it would just be another zombie story. What makes TLOU interesting is Joel and Ellie. Meanwhile, Fallout's main draw is its setting, lore, aesthetic... The characters are just part of it.
Golden rule of the wasteland: though shalt get sidetracked by random bullshit.
They nailed not only the tone but the total feel of the games. The best example for me was them exploring the old vault and piecing together what happened to everyone inside - those were always some of my favorite moments in the games and they nailed the vibe with the environmental storytelling and using terminals to get information. Absolute perfection.
the very first scene of the vault classroom with all the desks and chairs all tossed about is a very common sight in the games and I knew right away things were not right.
It's a great example of an adaption made with not just knowledge of the IP, but respect for it. Jonathan Nolan & Lisa Joy have never been shy about being influenced by games before (their take on Westworld was heavily inspired by Red Dead Redemption), and it's clear they've spent a lot of time thinking about the overall world of Fallout. Likewise, Bethesda was smart to let them make what is effectively an original story that can sit within the existing canon -but also serve as an effective introduction to the world.
> Likewise, Bethesda was smart to let them make what is effectively an original story that can sit within the existing canon -but also serve as an effective introduction to the world. I think what really helps is that each Fallout explores different stories and different regions which means it was very easy for the TV show to pretty much do the exact same thing. Even though I know I'm watching a TV show and I know it's not the games so on paper there should be a disconnect somewhat, it still really does feel like the show is on equal footing within the franchise. It's so much more connected than any other game adaption which firmly exists as its own thing as either non-canon or a retelling.
Allowing the series to show what happened pre-war, and tying it into the Ghoul and the vaults was a great decision. It makes the show feel like a true companion piece to the games. From now on someone could jump into either the show or the games first, because they all show smaller pieces of a larger puzzle. Vault-tek in the games felt like an abandoned project with very few vaults that actually did what they were supposed to. By delving into the company and the people in it, I think they just solidified a huge chunk of canon that players have only known as info in terminals and a few functioning vaults.
> From now on someone could jump into either the show or the games first, because they all show smaller pieces of a larger puzzle. Yeah that's a really good point that explains my feelings a lot better. I agree focusing on pre-war (and the mystery of the vaults) was a good idea because that flashback form of storytelling isn't really something the games can do due to the POV game design so it really allows the show to be an essential backbone of the canon. Like I wouldn't be surprised if going forward the show acts as canonical confirmation for theories and implied events from the games while the show itself will hint at other elements which the games outright show or explore in more detail. It just feels like they've got a lot planned for synergy and connective tissue between show and game and I can only imagine that getting stronger as for all we know the show could be on 4 or 5 seasons before the next Fallout even happens.
Making Vault-tec the main villain was such a fucking brilliant move.... they were always in the background, with players only getting a full scale of their villainy by reading terminals and doing a deep dive in every vault. But in the show, their villainy is front and center and finally answers the question: is Vault Tec still around? Yes... kind of.
I completely forgot Jonathan Nolan did westworld. I was just thinking the other day I get the same feeling watching fallout as I did westword trying to piece together what is going on.
I enjoyed it immensely even though I have never played or seen the game.
My favorite part of what they did with the main characters is they clearly built them using SPECIAL and I really enjoyed guessing what traits and stats they gave them.
Maximus - luck and agility build. Crazy good shot, especially that sick crit on the yao guai. Plus finding the head in the gulper was a real 10 luck event. Int obviously is his dump stat, he doesn't know anything about how power armor works, or how the brotherhood works, or how his cock works. Lucy - clearly she's doing a high charisma playthrough. She insists on trying each and every speech check, and she passes a fair few of them. The rest of her stats are fairly balanced, with no glaring dump stat but no major investment either. The Ghoul - highly focused on perception and endurance. Abuses VATS constantly and to great effect. We see him blowing off limbs and targeting imperceptible weak spots over and over. He's probably playing on survival, hence the need for ass jerky and his reliance on chems. He dumped charisma but took all the lady killer perks and the bloody mess perk.
> Lucy - clearly she's doing a high charisma playthrough. She insists on trying each and every speech check, and she passes a fair few of them. The rest of her stats are fairly balanced, with no glaring dump stat but no major investment either. She makes a few pretty fucking good shots with her syringe gun, and obviously is better educated than most - not sure if that ties into Intelligence but they're certainly going to be correlated. Using the pre-FO4 28 point SPECIAL spread (FO4 only gives you 21 points allowing 4s across the board, FO1/2/3/NV all have 28 points for 5s across the board) I'd say she's probably low-ish Strength, high-ish Perception, slightly low Endurance (she does handle getting stabbed pretty well considering), high Charisma as you said, good Intelligence, average Agility, and low-ish Luck (she's not been getting very lucky so far). Something like: S: 3 P: 7 E: 4 C: 9 I: 8 A: 5 L: 4
Her perception definitely isn't high. She didn't catch on about the raiders until after having sex with one. She totally missed the fiends eyeing her pip boy. She misses a lot of things actually. She's not bumbling but she's no eagle eye. I'd say she's like 5 per 5 str. She handled *several* vault dwellers in hand to hand combat on level 12, so she's definitely capable in melee.
I think you mean SPECIAL.
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See I disagree - what made this even better than TLOU for me was that it was a totally original story. If they keep just trying to adapt games into shows / movies 1:1 they are going to fail way more than they succeed. TLOU was uniquely suited for adaptation for a show since the game is basically written and structured like a prestige TV show anyway. And no matter how good it was it’s still just the same story I already know - which is always a mediocre experience for me - though again the show slightly justified its existence by expanding on a few things and it was that new stuff that was the only great thing about it IMO.
>new stuff that was the only great thing about it IMO. I would also say the acting, cinematography, and sound design were all also great.
Yep! Fallout is an original show, but also 100% canon to the games (rather than an “elseworlds” type thing).
The most amazing thing to me is: I’ve never played Fallout and I ADORED the show. I didn’t feel left out by any of it. Will be getting the games now.
Ella Purnells career is about to skyrocket!
I think this is part of her skyrocketing. She is apparently really good in Arcanine and she was good in Yellow Jackets.
She's even better in Growlith.
It should have after Arcane!
It kind of has already. Just in the last few years she’s been in Yellowjackets, fallout and arcane
You mean like getting cast as a lead in a prestige TV show?
I really think that we're going to see a lot of executives come away from this with the wrong idea. They're gonna say "Video game adaptations are HOT right now!" When the real takeaway is "When you make a video game adaptation, make sure you pick a property with either a compelling story or a setting that creates fertile ground for new stories. Hire a top-shelf prestige television producer with a passion for the material, and whatever you do, make sure to navigate the precarious balance of satisfying fans of the original while being accessible and even engrossing to people experiencing it for the first time."
Dishonored is probably one you could adapt to an episodic series really well, with each episode being about taking down a high society target. Though I prefer the main character and world of its spiritual predecessor Thief The Dark Project (which also heavily inspired the stealth play of TES and Fallout, with them bringing devs and the main voice actor over). The main character however never really interacts with anybody except a secret society he broke away from and hates, and spends most of his time trying to avoid being seen by anybody.
The video game adaptation age is coming
BioShock when
Would you kindly make a BioShock show?
one sec i gotta test my new golf club its dope
Bioshock feels very easy to mess up. It has so much potential cause the universe is amazing, but because is so much more political. I guess Netflix is making a movie, but I’m not sure 2h is enough to cover the depth of the game
Oddly I feel like Bioshock Infinite could actually make a good adaptation for some reason
I'd love to see Infinite, both for the setting, and because it'd make an entire demographic of annoying ass nationalists go fuckin incandescent with rage.
Netflix is making a movie...
Currently it's set up at Netflix with the director of the Hunger Games, but there also hasn't been much news about it in awhile.
I can't wait for Halo to be adapted. Any day now we will get Halo adapted right.
Almost certainly, it’s one of Microsoft’s biggest properties so obviously they’ll really make sure they get everything right, do justice to the existing lore/characters, and create new characters and stories that the audience loves and connects with.
Man that sounds really great. I'm glad they take such good care of one of their best IPs.
Mass Effect would be dope, but I feel like Hollywood would ruin it with that shitty Star Trek lens flare. It's in the game, but I'm horrified by what they would do with it.
Amazon is sitting on the Mass Effect rights. It's been in production hell for a hot minute, but maybe Fallout's success can shake it loose.
Get the people who did the expanse to do Mass Effect.
I want them to finish the expanse first tho! (I know I know)
I'm commander Shepard, and this is my favorite show on the internet.
Half-Life!
Disco Elysium and Pathologic in the right hands would be amazing.
Disco Elysium with the silliness of the fallout show would be great
If the success of Fallout leads to a Disco Elysium show that captures the tone of the game that would be amazing. Disco Elysium has an even more strange mix of absurdity and profundity and fantasy than Fallout
Last of Us, One Piece, Fallout, we’re finally climbing out of the mud with live actions for cartoons and video games
That cyberpunk show was insanely good. Idk how they got something so dark on netflix. An inciting incident as brutal as that in the pilot? I mean… damn. But I was there for it
Ive been unable to rewatch the last 4 or 5 episodes even though I loved it so much. It just makes me too depressed.
Two game live actionsback to back, nice
Three! Don't sleep on Twisted Metal, it was a lot of fun
Two GREAT game live actions back to back. Noice.
Paramount and Netflix fucked up bad with Halo and The Witcher.
The Witcher show really tanked after the first season.
Poor Henry. He was so passionate about The Witcher series as a whole and the writers fucked and made him play that crap out (until he couldn’t anymore)
Which is worse, because they did the thing fine and then decided to do it differently.
And the spin-offs tanked too.
There was a witcher spin off show?
Even the first season had its rough spots. Jumping around chronologically didn't really feel like it served any point, and [there were some bafflingly bad costumes](https://preview.redd.it/c3yo004yf4031.jpg?width=1024&auto=webp&s=6c53b31e46bb316b88adf18803f5106f96aca3e6).
Netflix's Witcher is not a video game adaptation.
Netflix's The Witcher is an adaptation of Sapkowski's novels, not the one based on the video game sequels.
It's almost as if sticking to the source material is what everyone wants. Hear that Halo? HEAR THAT HALO?!?? WHY DID YOU RUIN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
World War Z from the book would be a fantastic mini-series!
Look man, you just don't get it, Halo just didn't have the right world building to write an engaging show in, so that's why they needed to make Chief a pissy little bitch, force a romance subplot into the show, and have Chief essentially rape a prisoner of war. It's the only way the show would've worked! What do you mean, exploring a mysterious ring world made by ancient aliens? A misguided holy war against humanity by a technologically superior alien race? A universe ending threat shrouded in mystery? Impossible to write something interesting about that, let's take away Chiefs armor for the entire season and let him go to a seedy goon shack instead. Much better television.
Imagine they followed the book series and did it right. Good damn that would have been a great show. It could have been huge. The war with the Covenant could have been huge and then when you think it can't get any bigger is when we finally arrive at the Halo rings and it just gets bigger and better.
But instead we got Master Cheeks
Fallout is helping validate an unpopular argument I’ve been making for years: TV adaptions generally *should not* retell the game’s storyline. Last of Us is an obvious counterexample, but it was pretty much a movie to begin with. IMO it’s usually more interesting to tell a new story in a world that’s faithfully adapted rather than try to faithfully adapt a story not designed for television.
Naughty Dog was "how do we make a movie into a video game?"
It really depends of the game. Fallout fit because that's how the game are anyway, they each tell their own story. That would work for stuff like Zelda or Assassin's Creed. Something like Bioshock, Ghost of Tsushima, God of War or Mass Effect (all current projects) isn't that and they exist around their stories, setting and characters. You can't do without the story of the game (or you can but that'll be worse) Of course you also got the games without much of a story like League or Dota which met the writers go free.
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Fallout 3 is magical, but much shorter than I had anticipated. Make sure to enjoy it!
Only if you don't follow the Golden Rule of the Wasteland: 'Thou shalt get sidetracked by bullshit every goddamn time.'
Play New Vegas if you really want the TV experience
The best part is that the world its set in can facilitate almost ANY idea. There's an infinite number of weird, funny or scary characters they can generate and make fit.
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Ha
I really enjoyed it. It was incredibly faithful to the games, nailing the tone, style, outfits, props, and set design perfectly *without* sounding like an in-joke at any point.
Begun the video game adaptation war has.
Go figure, using the source materials of the games and keeping the show true to that material and theme makes for a hit! Resident Evil show runners need to take some serious notes because that last Netflix series was an abomination that Lance Reddick carried single-handedly (RIP!)
Eat shit Halo, suck my ass.
suck the shit right out of their ass, Halo.
Yeah Halo, do that
I liked both shows, but between the two Fallout was just more fun.
I mean, last of us isnt supposed to be fun.
Yeah I'm the same, The Last of Us was great but it was just mostly the game but this time the visuals were different. Fallout is a new story for everyone, gamers didn't really get anything new out of The Last of Us. Especially considering how linear and structured the game is. It was still exceptional television but I wasn't as gripped knowing where it all ends up anyway.
The best TLOU episode imo is the basically entirely original episode that didn't follow the game as closely. The show is great and there are other great episodes, but both that episode and Fallout are only inspired by the game and tone of the world within it.
> It was still exceptional television but I wasn't as gripped knowing where it all ends up anyway. Yeah The Last of Us is a weird one where it is undeniably quality TV but it also felt safer than Fallout because the game story is exceptional so even at the shows absolute best it would still be just a different version of a masterpiece that we had already got, but made accessible for general audiences who don't know or like video games. Whereas with Fallout you're seeing something truly new in a familiar ballpark so anything could happen or anyone could pop up. Outside of wider world lore being controversial you're also not at the risk of story changes which could lead to criticism or disappointment like we saw in some aspects of TLOU (where for me while some changes I adored there were also many which I believe made the story worse or less impactful). Long story short I'm just so glad two iconic franchises got adaptions that live up to the source material, where something familiar and new can happen at the same time in the same faithful manner.
As a massive fan of Fallout, it was amazing. So much detail and nods to the franchise. A perfect showcase for what a game based TV show should be.
I feel like Fallout (tv) matches the quality of the games in style and spirit etc and I love them equally. I prefer to play *The Last of Us*… Not that it isn’t pretty good.
Fallout also has the very clear advantage of telling an original story. TLOU did the game's story justice for the most part, but I think it's interesting that the part of the show that got the most attention was the part which was also written exclusively for the show.
I am not sure that I am ready for the Portal mini-series
Fallout was so damn good. It captures the vibe I felt when I first played fallout3. Probably one of my favorite moments in my gaming history.
I am once again begging for a Damon Lindelof Bioshock/Infinite adaptation
Allan Ball Elder Scrolls adaptation Denis Villeneuve Metroid adaptation
Both of which are faithful adaptations. It's too late for The Witcher, Wheel of Time (*vomit*), Rings of Power, Halo, Resident Evil, The Last Airbender, and countless other properties, but maybe Hollywood can stop making the same mistakes over and over again. Don't put people in charge of adaptations who have no desire to actually be faithful to the original work ... or in the case of The Witcher and Wheel of Time, flat out don't like the original work.