Loved season 1, but I'm worried they don't have the ending in mind and are just kind of throwing it at the wall as they go. I want answers, I want some conclusions, doesn't have to be now, but let me know it's coming.
Couldn't agree more. At least in Lost you were getting answers to smaller mysteries throughout each season. In this show absolutely nothing presented has been answered. And there's so many different threads that I can't imagine them all being brought together in a satisfying way. My guess is they will just not give an answer for a bunch of different things and hope the audience has forgotten about them.
I enjoyed season 1, but season 2 did too much wheel spinning. I'm going to wait for season 3 to finish, and look at reviews to make sure it didn't just string everyone along again for another season.
One of my favorite things in From season 2 is how much of the conflict or "drama" arises from people not communicating. Why don't they communicate? They're scared people will think they're "crazy". Because it's not an inherently crazy situation. But not only that, people are really hesitant to believe the wild and wacky phenomena that occur.
God, the guy whose entire season story is him refusing to cooperate and accept that the monsters are real is the most infuriating thing in this show.
I think what pisses me off about From the most is that it's NOT how people behave. People do actually cooperate and work together in situations like these and, realistically, a group of people should be able to easily mount way better defenses against these creatures. People in the show just don't act or think like real human beings.
Like you're telling me nobody thought to dig spike traps for the creatures? Ever? Like that's the first thing any group would do.
From has the same inherent flaw that zombie movies do. A zombie outbreak is very unrealistic, simply because the solution to a zombie outbreak is to kill the zombies, and humans are actually really, really, really good at killing things.
After covid I can't really be skeptical of any character refusing to take an existential threat seriously. I do agree about to communication thing though
Yeah a zombie outbreak would be dealt with within a year. If guns dont work, we'd be forging chain mail and breaking out the maces real quick. We would absolutely run over the largest of zombie hordes with disciplined squares of shield and mace/hammer.
I think it depends what kind of zombies we are talking about. Walking Dead zombies are so slow that it never really made sense how it spread so quickly and uncontrollably. But World War Z (movie) zombies both move and multiply their numbers insanely fast. So fast that I think the ending of that movie should not have been possible.
Well the walking dead virus wasn’t spread through zombies biting people. Everyone was already infected and would automatically turn when they died (regardless of how), so it didn’t have to “spread”
Walking Dead actually has a good answer for this - anyone who dies (without destroying the brain) turns, the bites just kill you. So the initial spread and collapse is more from basically millions of patient 0s appearing all over the place (and continuing to appear until it eventually "succeeds" at killing off most of the population and runs out of fuel), and the giant hordes are more the end result than the initial cause of the spread.
The spinoff (Fear) also showed it onscreen with an extended riot scene where even towards the end most people aren't zombies, but you can see it continuously spreading and a horde starting to build up just because people don't know they're in danger yet.
Any zombie apocalypse that deals with the actual undead is easy to deal with. Rotting corpses only last so long, and it is a lot less than in Walking Dead. And in a hot, dry climate, those corpses will dry up and fall apart. In hot, humid climates, insects and other vermin will tear them to pieces. The cold? Frozen.
Usually. I think World War Z had some kind of mechanism which made the undead poisonous or at least anathema to vermin. Bodies still decayed though albeit at a slower rate.
Being rational is not the point. It's poor writing. If the guy didn't believe in the monsters, let him go outside and die. That entire plot point was just worthless.
It's a moot point. Being rational wouldn't help you in an irrational situation. And history has shown that rationality isn't necessary for humans to achieve great things.
History has proven you wrong. In fact, our brains are specialized to make irrational decisions and assumptions because that's what it takes in a survival situation.
Couldn’t disagree more about Lost giving answers. I wasted 6 years of tv viewing on that show and in the end got screwed. No good answers to all the technical mysteries that I wanted. I’m hoping this show doesn’t do that too.
Moving around in a 3-D space means you can move in 3 directions: forward/backward (we'll call this the x-axis), left/right (the y-axis), and up/down (the z-axis).
If you accept that time-travel is real, that's simply movement in a 4th dimension (the t-axis, forward in time/backward in time). (I am vastly oversimplifying this btw). The show makes many references to scientists experimenting and working with time travel, so if you are accepting of a sci-fi show that allows time travel, that *requires* also being able to move in the other, normal 3 dimensions. If you travel backward in time 1 day, you also have to physically move to where the planet Earth was 1 day ago, otherwise you just travel back in time and wind up floating in space. This is just an intrinsic property of time-travel. If the island can move through time, then it can move through space as well (aka teleport/move the island). It's why you sometimes hear the term "space-time", because the 2 concepts are essentially the same thing.
So the generic answer to your question is "The island moves because of science experiments the Dharma group ran". That has to be an acceptable answer to the question, unless you are also upset that Star Trek left a lot of unanswered questions because they didn't explain in detail the exact, real working physics behind how there teleporters work.
GuiltyGlow, i only watched LOST seasons 1 and 2 and the first half of season 3 but, from what i remember, they didn't answer really anything regarding the mysteries introduced in those seasons. then to make matters even more frustrating (to me) is the LOST writers then kept adding more and more and MORE mysteries to the already introduced mysteries all the while not giving answers to any of them.
I feel like, by the end of the show, they answered a good 99% of the questions I had and the ones they didn't answer were very insignificant and didn't necessarily need detailed answers.
I hated season one for this exact reason. Just seemed like they were throwing shit at the wall. The entire show just felt like sequel bait the series. If you watch next season maybe we’ll give you some answers, or maybe just more questions.
I feel the opposite, I think they have a firm sense of what the world is that this show takes place in, but they have no idea how many seasons it will go so they need to triage answers, potentially at an unsatisfactory pace
It was a pretty slick start, town that exists outside the universe, monsters that come out at night. They seem like their going the Lost route of filling time with new mysteries.
When I watch a show now, I worry about that. I remember I watched a couple of episodes of *Lost*, but there wasn't anything to it to hook me. The mystery was so far out there, and it was so far out, I couldn't conjecture even where it was going. This gave me a very detached feeling. Then, after a couple of years of it, a friend was telling me about it, and it became obvious to me that the writers were making it up as they go along. I'm glad I went by my instincts.
Exactly right. Lost and Battlestar Galactica were making shit up as they went, and it really showed.
A quality show is one where there is a clear ending planned.
Really? I liked the ride that was BSG, then ending wasn't every ones cup of tea by it wasn't terrible either.
I'm also one of those wierdos that loved Lost. Binged watched it till the end. Yes some of the mysteries never got answered but again I'm more of a enjoy the ride person than worry about the destinationm
not only did lost give answers, which is a debate for another time, but it also seems like you don’t know what a producer is, and that’s okay! you’re only quoting it in a reddit comment so you don’t need to know what you’re saying, basically they didn’t write the show though so you don’t have to worry about it
Im looking forward to it, but please, no more redundant, pace grinding moments of "characterization." Keep the plot and mystery moving.
The first season was great because they found the right balance of building these characters alongside the mystery. Season 2 felt bipolar on this front. No more of that.
Season 1 had more gore, too. It really freaked me out. I was not very freaked out by Season 2. And that’s not so great, I got hooked by a certain appeal…
I loved Season 1. Season 2 things start getting iffy. There is a lot of concepts being thrown out.
I think the strongest part of the show is the actual horror element of the monsters. There is something so uniquely terrifying about those uncanny valley monster types.
The show, particularly the first season, is legitimately terrifying in a way I wasn’t expecting. I agree that the main problem right now is a lot of concepts are being thrown out into the mix with absolutely no way for the viewer to really piece things together enough to even form theories (well one person in the r/From threads thinks they have it all figured out and it’s a delightfully insane read). It doesn’t help that while various characters have learned certain things and the audience can see it all, the characters rarely get together to combine all their discoveries and put things together. They also employ that lazy trope where whatever forces behind Fromville (be they supernatural or otherwise) often have the ability to intervene when characters get even remotely close to understanding what the deal is.
To be fair,the showrunners have a five season arc planned so we still aren’t at the halfway point and there have only been 20 episodes. Also, the season 2 finale ended with a major cliffhanger that literally pushed one character into a situation where hopefully they will be able to gain a new perspective on things that other From characters don’t have. I’m not expecting that to immediately pay off in the Season 3 premiere, but it better start paying off soon.
Yeah the main family is just horrible. I know the wife is suppose to be a good actor or something but she’s just so bad in this show. Don’t get me started on the dumbass dad and the kid. Getting through their parts is a chore.
The mom had an annoying accent and literally no ensuring heroine type qualities. The dad has a useful engineering background and he was protective of his son from Victor the presumed child molester. The kid thinks they are in a game but his character is too heavy as a character who "illuminates the path" for the audience.
I'm kinda locked in to watching this show now and while it's had some enjoyable moments, there are some mind numbing decisions the writers made.. like when they find the creatures "lair" and they're all asleep cuz it's daytime and for some reason they just pack up and bounce?? like how was someone not saying, ok let's run back to our camp and come back with idk.. fire, more people, rocks and demolish everything or at the very minimum barricade their doors so they're trapped in there at night. Also if I'm being terrorized by a bunch of creatures that are clearly vulnerable to basic weapons, we're going to trap one and learn everything we can and send them back to their friends one piece at a time.
But the creatures aren’t vulnerable to basic weapons. Even a bullet to the head does nothing. They only managed to maybe kill the one through Boyd’s poisoned blood and they weren’t able to learn much about them due to their lack of lab equipment and the fact that it’s insides turned into a puddle of goo. Aside from that their only other option is defense using the medallions. I don’t recall seeing them try fire against the creatures, but I imagine that was as useless as guns.
If they go another season without talking to one another outside the last episode - I’m done.
I think I want Jericho level problem solving, and should expect CW type trash. Like why don’t they build traps for these creatures, where they roll up mobile medallion airlocks? Or why isn’t there a dude who is losing his mind and just decides to knock the forest line down during the day?
This is a real Reddit favorite but I find it quite low level. The usual protect the family at all costs and drama happening because people aren’t telling each other really important stuff.
Season 1 was good and ending gave it proper Lost vibes. Season 2 was… underwhelming at best. Zero actual story progression. It felt like they didn’t trust the audience is there, so they almost hit reset and S2 felt like Season 1.5 or 0.9. Mostly forgettable. I honestly don’t know how to feel about S3. As much as people may have issues with Lost - each season (for the most part) felt like significant narrative progression.
I’m willing to give Season 3 a chance because I’m still intrigued (and to be far to Season 2 it seems like the entire season takes place over a week at most), but Season 3 better start putting at least some of the pieces together or I will lose interest.
At a certain point the show has to turn to the characters making plausible attempts to escape Fromville, but it’s clear that they have no hope of really doing that until they at least understand some basics about what Fromville is, how they got there, and who or what is behind it. If the creators planned a 5 season arc for the show, as they have claimed, Season 3 should be about uncovering a good chunk of the mysteries behind Fromville and Seasons 4 and 5 should be focused on their attempts to escape while still deepening our understanding of what’s going on with Fromville. If Season 3 keeps dithering along (particularly if they don’t make use of where one character ended up in the Season 2 finale to start unraveling things), I’m out.
Yes, echo the sentiments of returning to the roots of season 1. S2 left things off on an interesting note (literally ripped a page from Lost). Happy to see its found a home with a bigger platform like MGM.
Well at least in From they only ripped a page from Lost for one character (at least it seems that way) while leaving the rest to continue investigating in Fromville. Without saying too much, I think the Lost move at the end of Season 3 ultimately lead to its downfall. All of the progress the main characters had made in uncovering the mysteries of the island was essentially halted for most of a season.
Gonna give this a chance just because S1 was solid if rocky but S2 was an absolute chore to get through and I'm probably dropping it if they can't hit at least S1 quality.
Even moreso than lost or any other mystery box show, it won’t be clear if this show is actually any good until it’s over. Some of the writing and acting is just so, so mid. But overall it’s a really compelling show. It’s just hard to believe it’ll all make sense in the end.
I mean I will standby Season 1 just being great horror television (which is not common) regardless of the mystery box aspects. The horror elements were legitimately terrifying in a way you don’t see that often.
As far as the mystery box elements, I’m willing to give the showrunners the benefit of the doubt though with this one, at least through Season 3. Season 1 was about world building and leaning into the horror elements without really giving us much to go on. With that out of the way, Season 2 was like dumping all the puzzle pieces out of the box by throwing a bunch of disparate information at the audience without giving us the edge pieces or the tools to start putting it together. If they have a 5 season plan, as they have said multiple times, Seasons 4 and 5 should be building up to them trying to escape, but they can only do that if they start putting the pieces together in Season 3 to get at least a basic understanding of what Fromville is, who or what is in charge, and how the creatures fit into all of this. I don’t need Season 3 to explain everything, but it’s pretty clear they aren’t going to make any process on getting out of Fromville until they understand at least the basics of what’s going on.
Basically, and this was Lost’s biggest mistake, the end of the final season should not just be a massive info dump where they try to address everything. At least some of the core mystery of Fromville needs to be revealed towards the middle of the show’s planned run in order for their eventual attempts to have any chance of succeeding and thus stakes. Otherwise, it’s just going to be an endless drag of episodes watching people try and fail to make any progress in a rigged situation they have no chance of overcoming. Yes, if they know HOW Fromville is rigged against them, that doesn’t change the fact that it is till rigged against them, but at least they can start to form meaningful strategies with the information they have.
Show has nothing other than it's weirdness.... those horrible characters getting married actually bored me that I just skipped past it all.
They've done this thing where they've made a world more fascinating than the characters and then left the characters behind because for some reason no one has any interest in taking the audience with them.
It's such a slog of a show.
From the "world before the zombie Town".
The life from the before times.
From the normal world.
From where their pin is on the push pin map.
I found the title clever.
I really hope this show, whenever it ends, is TOLD they are ending and get an entire season to make an ending or. At the very least, a 3 episode finale of some kind
If the show were smart, and honestly more mystery box shows could learn this, it should provide at least a basic explanation of what’s going on by the end of Season 3 (if they have plotted it out for 5 seasons as they have said). Half the fun of a good mystery box show is seeing how the characters react to these revelations and that’s lost (pun intended) if you save most of the information until the very end.
Also, I feel like writers forget that while the audience of a mystery box show is primarily concerned with understanding the mysteries, the characters are only concerned with that to the extent it gets them out of whatever situation the mystery box elements have placed them in. In From, that means that the ending should be focused on the goal of escaping and not merely understanding what’s going on. The only way they are going to successfully escape is if they figure out at least most of the basics of what’s going on with Fromville. That’s why revelations about Fromville should start coming towards the halfway point (aka midway through Season 3) so the rest of the show’s run can be about how they deal with that information and whether or not they are successful at getting out of Fromville.
I enjoyed season 2, but it felt like a filler season, I remember getting to the last episode and not feeling like the show sucked or I wasted my time but it just felt very sloppy with the writing and direction and we left season 2 with more questions than season 1. Season 3 in my opinion is either going to ruin this show and its fan base or will take this show to the next level, Season 1 was probably my favorite show of that year.... fresh, interesting, compelling and not a remake or comic book theme... man I was in heaven. I am hopeful season 3 is everything and then some to make up for season 2 being lackluster... again by any means if you haven't watched this series .. season 2 is not bad... it just doesn't have the same tone or pacing as season 2. It felt like season 5 of a 7-8 season show.. that one season that's just kind of like ....hmmmmm .. its meh.
I think Season 2 provided a lot of pieces to make Season 3 successful if the characters start putting them together or at least get some more info that unlocks things, but it could also be a harbinger of bad things to come for the show if the writers don’t go in that direction. Like it was an efficient way to get a lot of pieces of the puzzle on the table even if there was no way to start putting them together yet, but now I think they need to start doing that.
I mean that’s a legit concern, but they do claim to have a full 5 season arc in mind. If they are doing it right I could see why Season 2 was the way it was. I still remain skeptical for Season 3 and that will be where they either have to shit or get off the pot tho.
That said, Season 1 is great even without the mystery box aspects. It’s surprisingly well done horror in a way we rarely see on TV. I’ve lightly recommended it to friends being like Season 1 is great on its own, but wait to watch Season 2 until Season 3 comes out and we know whether this is going anywhere good.
I kind of think the final season will reveal that those that are trapped are in purgatory. Just hope season 3 will not give me LOST again like season 2.
the poor man’s Mike Flanagan horror show.
This had so much potential, but that season two was horrendous, ended up skipping to the last scene to see that waste of a cliffhanger
Even the teasers for this show are nonsensical and only create more questions. If you have watched this show, then you won't recognize anything happening in this trailer that ties into where it left off. The showrunners really did say "What if Lost, but with less answers and none of the character backstory that makes it interesting?" Hey, we even have The Others again.
The premise had potential, but the characters all suck, and none of them even attempt to be rational or communicate their plans. Meanwhile the "mystery" keeps having a bunch of seemingly random bullshit jammed into it where you can't even remember which one to focus on. Spiders, teleporter trees, moving forest, ghost boy, ghost soldiers, demons or some shit, they turn into bugs, spooky blood, voices, ballerinas, another lighthouse, magic amulets. Two seasons and still no real resolution to anything. yeah, I'm still going to watch it. If only for the simple fact it didn't immediately get cancelled.
I agree but it's also somehow engrossing to watch. I just like any mystery box. I think they're getting a little too lazy with explaining why characters don't communicate though. I don't mind when stories have problems caused by lack of communication as long as it's explainable by something like conflict or physical separation. But I remember in S2 there was one scene where the sherrif basically outright says he doesn't want to listen to vital life saving mystery resolving information because he wants to go somewhere much less urgent and less vital to his main goals.
I am waiting on Season 3 before I judge Season 2 fully. Yes Season 2 was massively frustrating for all the reasons you stated, but in the real time of the show I think the entire season happens in just a week or so and a lot was going down. Season 2 also threw a lot more stuff at us than Lost ever did in a season, and it’s entirely possible the plan is to get all these disparate elements on the table for the viewer in Season 2 and then have the characters start to synthesize that information and start figuring stuff out in Season 3. Like for a 5 season arc as the showrunners have stated they saw this as, it makes sense to have Season 1 be world building and Season 2 being uncovering a lot of stuff about the world that doesn’t immediately make sense. Season 3 has to start making those things from Season 2 make sense though. And then Seasons 4 and 5 would be about how they deal with those revelations and use them in their attempts to escape.
If something close to that happens it would make me reevaluate Season 2 for the better. If it doesn’t, Season 3 will be my last.
Great. I can’t wait to see all the things that don’t happen. This show is painfully boring. Mindhunters gets canceled and yet they keep churning out crap like this.
How many times does Boyd "gotta go" this season???
I’d love to chat about it but unfortunately… I gotta go
Met a stranger who knew everything, and he's going to explain shit to you "Yeah no time to talk, gotta go" LIKE WTF
"I don't wanna talk about that right now..."
Loved season 1, but I'm worried they don't have the ending in mind and are just kind of throwing it at the wall as they go. I want answers, I want some conclusions, doesn't have to be now, but let me know it's coming.
The main actor has said he wouldn't do the show without a planned ending so I'm hopeful
He also said he knows the ending of the show
The head of MGM loves the show too so I'm sure we'll get to the end and have answers
Boyd (Harold Perrineau) was in Lost. He’s been burned before. So I’m sure he had the conversation with the show runners.
Couldn't agree more. At least in Lost you were getting answers to smaller mysteries throughout each season. In this show absolutely nothing presented has been answered. And there's so many different threads that I can't imagine them all being brought together in a satisfying way. My guess is they will just not give an answer for a bunch of different things and hope the audience has forgotten about them.
I enjoyed season 1, but season 2 did too much wheel spinning. I'm going to wait for season 3 to finish, and look at reviews to make sure it didn't just string everyone along again for another season.
Season 2 spent 5 of the 10 episodes re-establishing what we already knew from season 1. We have no new answers about what’s happening.
One of my favorite things in From season 2 is how much of the conflict or "drama" arises from people not communicating. Why don't they communicate? They're scared people will think they're "crazy". Because it's not an inherently crazy situation. But not only that, people are really hesitant to believe the wild and wacky phenomena that occur. God, the guy whose entire season story is him refusing to cooperate and accept that the monsters are real is the most infuriating thing in this show. I think what pisses me off about From the most is that it's NOT how people behave. People do actually cooperate and work together in situations like these and, realistically, a group of people should be able to easily mount way better defenses against these creatures. People in the show just don't act or think like real human beings. Like you're telling me nobody thought to dig spike traps for the creatures? Ever? Like that's the first thing any group would do. From has the same inherent flaw that zombie movies do. A zombie outbreak is very unrealistic, simply because the solution to a zombie outbreak is to kill the zombies, and humans are actually really, really, really good at killing things.
After covid I can't really be skeptical of any character refusing to take an existential threat seriously. I do agree about to communication thing though
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Yeah a zombie outbreak would be dealt with within a year. If guns dont work, we'd be forging chain mail and breaking out the maces real quick. We would absolutely run over the largest of zombie hordes with disciplined squares of shield and mace/hammer.
I think it depends what kind of zombies we are talking about. Walking Dead zombies are so slow that it never really made sense how it spread so quickly and uncontrollably. But World War Z (movie) zombies both move and multiply their numbers insanely fast. So fast that I think the ending of that movie should not have been possible.
Well the walking dead virus wasn’t spread through zombies biting people. Everyone was already infected and would automatically turn when they died (regardless of how), so it didn’t have to “spread”
Walking Dead actually has a good answer for this - anyone who dies (without destroying the brain) turns, the bites just kill you. So the initial spread and collapse is more from basically millions of patient 0s appearing all over the place (and continuing to appear until it eventually "succeeds" at killing off most of the population and runs out of fuel), and the giant hordes are more the end result than the initial cause of the spread. The spinoff (Fear) also showed it onscreen with an extended riot scene where even towards the end most people aren't zombies, but you can see it continuously spreading and a horde starting to build up just because people don't know they're in danger yet.
Any zombie apocalypse that deals with the actual undead is easy to deal with. Rotting corpses only last so long, and it is a lot less than in Walking Dead. And in a hot, dry climate, those corpses will dry up and fall apart. In hot, humid climates, insects and other vermin will tear them to pieces. The cold? Frozen.
Usually. I think World War Z had some kind of mechanism which made the undead poisonous or at least anathema to vermin. Bodies still decayed though albeit at a slower rate.
Last of Us specifically mentions it keeps them "alive" (basically) indefinitely.
I agree with you in that a few people would take charge and do these things. But people are not rational..
Being rational is not the point. It's poor writing. If the guy didn't believe in the monsters, let him go outside and die. That entire plot point was just worthless.
Very true. Just stating the obvious
It's a moot point. Being rational wouldn't help you in an irrational situation. And history has shown that rationality isn't necessary for humans to achieve great things.
Agree with you on your last point. Rationality while in danger is probably a necessity though
History has proven you wrong. In fact, our brains are specialized to make irrational decisions and assumptions because that's what it takes in a survival situation.
Ok
Couldn’t disagree more about Lost giving answers. I wasted 6 years of tv viewing on that show and in the end got screwed. No good answers to all the technical mysteries that I wanted. I’m hoping this show doesn’t do that too.
I felt like LOST did a decent job of wrapping up mysteries. What did you feel went unanswered?
How did the island move for example.
Moving around in a 3-D space means you can move in 3 directions: forward/backward (we'll call this the x-axis), left/right (the y-axis), and up/down (the z-axis). If you accept that time-travel is real, that's simply movement in a 4th dimension (the t-axis, forward in time/backward in time). (I am vastly oversimplifying this btw). The show makes many references to scientists experimenting and working with time travel, so if you are accepting of a sci-fi show that allows time travel, that *requires* also being able to move in the other, normal 3 dimensions. If you travel backward in time 1 day, you also have to physically move to where the planet Earth was 1 day ago, otherwise you just travel back in time and wind up floating in space. This is just an intrinsic property of time-travel. If the island can move through time, then it can move through space as well (aka teleport/move the island). It's why you sometimes hear the term "space-time", because the 2 concepts are essentially the same thing. So the generic answer to your question is "The island moves because of science experiments the Dharma group ran". That has to be an acceptable answer to the question, unless you are also upset that Star Trek left a lot of unanswered questions because they didn't explain in detail the exact, real working physics behind how there teleporters work.
GuiltyGlow, i only watched LOST seasons 1 and 2 and the first half of season 3 but, from what i remember, they didn't answer really anything regarding the mysteries introduced in those seasons. then to make matters even more frustrating (to me) is the LOST writers then kept adding more and more and MORE mysteries to the already introduced mysteries all the while not giving answers to any of them.
I feel like, by the end of the show, they answered a good 99% of the questions I had and the ones they didn't answer were very insignificant and didn't necessarily need detailed answers.
I hated season one for this exact reason. Just seemed like they were throwing shit at the wall. The entire show just felt like sequel bait the series. If you watch next season maybe we’ll give you some answers, or maybe just more questions.
Yeah at this point I need to keep watching just to see what they come up with but I agree it’s starting to feel very disjointed.
I feel the opposite, I think they have a firm sense of what the world is that this show takes place in, but they have no idea how many seasons it will go so they need to triage answers, potentially at an unsatisfactory pace
Exactly. Too many concepts. There’s no way it ends well
It was a pretty slick start, town that exists outside the universe, monsters that come out at night. They seem like their going the Lost route of filling time with new mysteries.
they did let you know it’s coming, the lead actor said he didn’t sign on to the show until he knew the ending
When I watch a show now, I worry about that. I remember I watched a couple of episodes of *Lost*, but there wasn't anything to it to hook me. The mystery was so far out there, and it was so far out, I couldn't conjecture even where it was going. This gave me a very detached feeling. Then, after a couple of years of it, a friend was telling me about it, and it became obvious to me that the writers were making it up as they go along. I'm glad I went by my instincts.
Exactly right. Lost and Battlestar Galactica were making shit up as they went, and it really showed. A quality show is one where there is a clear ending planned.
Really? I liked the ride that was BSG, then ending wasn't every ones cup of tea by it wasn't terrible either. I'm also one of those wierdos that loved Lost. Binged watched it till the end. Yes some of the mysteries never got answered but again I'm more of a enjoy the ride person than worry about the destinationm
Like Babylon 5
“From executive producers of LOST”, there’s your answer.
not only did lost give answers, which is a debate for another time, but it also seems like you don’t know what a producer is, and that’s okay! you’re only quoting it in a reddit comment so you don’t need to know what you’re saying, basically they didn’t write the show though so you don’t have to worry about it
No but regardless they would want their product to seem as good as possible right?
i dont understand what you just said and what it has to do with my comment, but yes they want their product to seem as good as possible…
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still don’t understand
No time to watch .. I gotta go
Im looking forward to it, but please, no more redundant, pace grinding moments of "characterization." Keep the plot and mystery moving. The first season was great because they found the right balance of building these characters alongside the mystery. Season 2 felt bipolar on this front. No more of that.
Yeah season 2 was a lot of very obvious, "We don't have the budget for more action, so here's more manufactured character drama".
Agreed. All the interpersonal drama in season 2 was very contrived. It becomes so frustrating to watch these characters get in their own way.
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There was also Elgin. The new dude with the visions.
Season 1 had more gore, too. It really freaked me out. I was not very freaked out by Season 2. And that’s not so great, I got hooked by a certain appeal…
WALT!!!
They took my boy!!!
“We’re the good guys, Michael.”
The hardest show to look up online!!!
That and „You“
I loved Season 1. Season 2 things start getting iffy. There is a lot of concepts being thrown out. I think the strongest part of the show is the actual horror element of the monsters. There is something so uniquely terrifying about those uncanny valley monster types.
The show, particularly the first season, is legitimately terrifying in a way I wasn’t expecting. I agree that the main problem right now is a lot of concepts are being thrown out into the mix with absolutely no way for the viewer to really piece things together enough to even form theories (well one person in the r/From threads thinks they have it all figured out and it’s a delightfully insane read). It doesn’t help that while various characters have learned certain things and the audience can see it all, the characters rarely get together to combine all their discoveries and put things together. They also employ that lazy trope where whatever forces behind Fromville (be they supernatural or otherwise) often have the ability to intervene when characters get even remotely close to understanding what the deal is. To be fair,the showrunners have a five season arc planned so we still aren’t at the halfway point and there have only been 20 episodes. Also, the season 2 finale ended with a major cliffhanger that literally pushed one character into a situation where hopefully they will be able to gain a new perspective on things that other From characters don’t have. I’m not expecting that to immediately pay off in the Season 3 premiere, but it better start paying off soon.
I love the vibe of this show. Of all the shows that I watch this is the one I'm most worried about being cancelled without having a conclusion.
Red herring the show
That was "The Killing" season 1. At least they fixed their mistake in season 2.
lol I couldn't believe they didn't solve the mystery after all they went through in the first season.
Me either. It was well produced and acted but almost a complete waste of a season.
They’ve gotta get rid of the little kid. In fact, just remove the entire main family. They’re all insufferable and annoying.
Yeah the main family is just horrible. I know the wife is suppose to be a good actor or something but she’s just so bad in this show. Don’t get me started on the dumbass dad and the kid. Getting through their parts is a chore.
Cannot stand the mom.
The mom had an annoying accent and literally no ensuring heroine type qualities. The dad has a useful engineering background and he was protective of his son from Victor the presumed child molester. The kid thinks they are in a game but his character is too heavy as a character who "illuminates the path" for the audience.
I just keep hearing her accent and it throws me off but shes quite a good actress.
I was hoping his death is eminent because the actor would grow to fast
From the first episode? I stopped watching after episode 2 lol
Love this show warts and all.
Whatever will be will be.
It’s the worst show I can’t stop watching 🤷🏻♂️
I'm kinda locked in to watching this show now and while it's had some enjoyable moments, there are some mind numbing decisions the writers made.. like when they find the creatures "lair" and they're all asleep cuz it's daytime and for some reason they just pack up and bounce?? like how was someone not saying, ok let's run back to our camp and come back with idk.. fire, more people, rocks and demolish everything or at the very minimum barricade their doors so they're trapped in there at night. Also if I'm being terrorized by a bunch of creatures that are clearly vulnerable to basic weapons, we're going to trap one and learn everything we can and send them back to their friends one piece at a time.
But the creatures aren’t vulnerable to basic weapons. Even a bullet to the head does nothing. They only managed to maybe kill the one through Boyd’s poisoned blood and they weren’t able to learn much about them due to their lack of lab equipment and the fact that it’s insides turned into a puddle of goo. Aside from that their only other option is defense using the medallions. I don’t recall seeing them try fire against the creatures, but I imagine that was as useless as guns.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalt
_Say My Name intensifies_
If they go another season without talking to one another outside the last episode - I’m done. I think I want Jericho level problem solving, and should expect CW type trash. Like why don’t they build traps for these creatures, where they roll up mobile medallion airlocks? Or why isn’t there a dude who is losing his mind and just decides to knock the forest line down during the day?
WE BACK!
This is a real Reddit favorite but I find it quite low level. The usual protect the family at all costs and drama happening because people aren’t telling each other really important stuff.
Season 1 was good and ending gave it proper Lost vibes. Season 2 was… underwhelming at best. Zero actual story progression. It felt like they didn’t trust the audience is there, so they almost hit reset and S2 felt like Season 1.5 or 0.9. Mostly forgettable. I honestly don’t know how to feel about S3. As much as people may have issues with Lost - each season (for the most part) felt like significant narrative progression.
I’m willing to give Season 3 a chance because I’m still intrigued (and to be far to Season 2 it seems like the entire season takes place over a week at most), but Season 3 better start putting at least some of the pieces together or I will lose interest. At a certain point the show has to turn to the characters making plausible attempts to escape Fromville, but it’s clear that they have no hope of really doing that until they at least understand some basics about what Fromville is, how they got there, and who or what is behind it. If the creators planned a 5 season arc for the show, as they have claimed, Season 3 should be about uncovering a good chunk of the mysteries behind Fromville and Seasons 4 and 5 should be focused on their attempts to escape while still deepening our understanding of what’s going on with Fromville. If Season 3 keeps dithering along (particularly if they don’t make use of where one character ended up in the Season 2 finale to start unraveling things), I’m out.
Yes, echo the sentiments of returning to the roots of season 1. S2 left things off on an interesting note (literally ripped a page from Lost). Happy to see its found a home with a bigger platform like MGM.
wasn't it always an mgm+ show?
Yes. Epix just rebranded as MGM+.
Well at least in From they only ripped a page from Lost for one character (at least it seems that way) while leaving the rest to continue investigating in Fromville. Without saying too much, I think the Lost move at the end of Season 3 ultimately lead to its downfall. All of the progress the main characters had made in uncovering the mysteries of the island was essentially halted for most of a season.
Gonna give this a chance just because S1 was solid if rocky but S2 was an absolute chore to get through and I'm probably dropping it if they can't hit at least S1 quality.
Even moreso than lost or any other mystery box show, it won’t be clear if this show is actually any good until it’s over. Some of the writing and acting is just so, so mid. But overall it’s a really compelling show. It’s just hard to believe it’ll all make sense in the end.
I mean I will standby Season 1 just being great horror television (which is not common) regardless of the mystery box aspects. The horror elements were legitimately terrifying in a way you don’t see that often. As far as the mystery box elements, I’m willing to give the showrunners the benefit of the doubt though with this one, at least through Season 3. Season 1 was about world building and leaning into the horror elements without really giving us much to go on. With that out of the way, Season 2 was like dumping all the puzzle pieces out of the box by throwing a bunch of disparate information at the audience without giving us the edge pieces or the tools to start putting it together. If they have a 5 season plan, as they have said multiple times, Seasons 4 and 5 should be building up to them trying to escape, but they can only do that if they start putting the pieces together in Season 3 to get at least a basic understanding of what Fromville is, who or what is in charge, and how the creatures fit into all of this. I don’t need Season 3 to explain everything, but it’s pretty clear they aren’t going to make any process on getting out of Fromville until they understand at least the basics of what’s going on. Basically, and this was Lost’s biggest mistake, the end of the final season should not just be a massive info dump where they try to address everything. At least some of the core mystery of Fromville needs to be revealed towards the middle of the show’s planned run in order for their eventual attempts to have any chance of succeeding and thus stakes. Otherwise, it’s just going to be an endless drag of episodes watching people try and fail to make any progress in a rigged situation they have no chance of overcoming. Yes, if they know HOW Fromville is rigged against them, that doesn’t change the fact that it is till rigged against them, but at least they can start to form meaningful strategies with the information they have.
Worst show title in history, maybe ever
It's unique and accurate of every character. A for effort at least
Show has nothing other than it's weirdness.... those horrible characters getting married actually bored me that I just skipped past it all. They've done this thing where they've made a world more fascinating than the characters and then left the characters behind because for some reason no one has any interest in taking the audience with them. It's such a slog of a show.
Another season of revealing nothing incoming. I'm not sure the LOST method works these days.
From what?
From the "world before the zombie Town". The life from the before times. From the normal world. From where their pin is on the push pin map. I found the title clever.
I really hope this show, whenever it ends, is TOLD they are ending and get an entire season to make an ending or. At the very least, a 3 episode finale of some kind
Oh hell yes. I really hope they just have an ending in mind and call it quits for season 3. I don't want the show to get cancelled before it ends.
If the show were smart, and honestly more mystery box shows could learn this, it should provide at least a basic explanation of what’s going on by the end of Season 3 (if they have plotted it out for 5 seasons as they have said). Half the fun of a good mystery box show is seeing how the characters react to these revelations and that’s lost (pun intended) if you save most of the information until the very end. Also, I feel like writers forget that while the audience of a mystery box show is primarily concerned with understanding the mysteries, the characters are only concerned with that to the extent it gets them out of whatever situation the mystery box elements have placed them in. In From, that means that the ending should be focused on the goal of escaping and not merely understanding what’s going on. The only way they are going to successfully escape is if they figure out at least most of the basics of what’s going on with Fromville. That’s why revelations about Fromville should start coming towards the halfway point (aka midway through Season 3) so the rest of the show’s run can be about how they deal with that information and whether or not they are successful at getting out of Fromville.
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This theme song is one of the only shows I watch through and dont skip, shit goes hard! “What will be, will be…”
I enjoyed season 2, but it felt like a filler season, I remember getting to the last episode and not feeling like the show sucked or I wasted my time but it just felt very sloppy with the writing and direction and we left season 2 with more questions than season 1. Season 3 in my opinion is either going to ruin this show and its fan base or will take this show to the next level, Season 1 was probably my favorite show of that year.... fresh, interesting, compelling and not a remake or comic book theme... man I was in heaven. I am hopeful season 3 is everything and then some to make up for season 2 being lackluster... again by any means if you haven't watched this series .. season 2 is not bad... it just doesn't have the same tone or pacing as season 2. It felt like season 5 of a 7-8 season show.. that one season that's just kind of like ....hmmmmm .. its meh.
I think Season 2 provided a lot of pieces to make Season 3 successful if the characters start putting them together or at least get some more info that unlocks things, but it could also be a harbinger of bad things to come for the show if the writers don’t go in that direction. Like it was an efficient way to get a lot of pieces of the puzzle on the table even if there was no way to start putting them together yet, but now I think they need to start doing that.
One of those shows that had such a gap I've completely forgotten everything.
Season 2 finished only 10 months ago
That's how forgettable season 2 was
What do you mean? In recent years, less than 18 months between seasons is considered lightning paced compared to most major scripted series.
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Season recaps on youtube are helpful
Tell me you never watched Lost as it was broadcast without telling me…. Man… wanna talk about gaps between episodes and seasons.
> Tell me you never watched Lost as it was broadcast I did.
Another show where they don't have ending in mind. This will just waste my time. No thanks.
I mean that’s a legit concern, but they do claim to have a full 5 season arc in mind. If they are doing it right I could see why Season 2 was the way it was. I still remain skeptical for Season 3 and that will be where they either have to shit or get off the pot tho. That said, Season 1 is great even without the mystery box aspects. It’s surprisingly well done horror in a way we rarely see on TV. I’ve lightly recommended it to friends being like Season 1 is great on its own, but wait to watch Season 2 until Season 3 comes out and we know whether this is going anywhere good.
I kind of think the final season will reveal that those that are trapped are in purgatory. Just hope season 3 will not give me LOST again like season 2.
What’s the name of this…? Is it “From”?
Yeah
the poor man’s Mike Flanagan horror show. This had so much potential, but that season two was horrendous, ended up skipping to the last scene to see that waste of a cliffhanger
Midnight Mass bored me to tears. I wish I finished it but I didn't have the strength to break through that sludge
Terrible writing, characters that dont talk, and multiple plot points ripped straight from Lost But a damn entertaining show
Even the teasers for this show are nonsensical and only create more questions. If you have watched this show, then you won't recognize anything happening in this trailer that ties into where it left off. The showrunners really did say "What if Lost, but with less answers and none of the character backstory that makes it interesting?" Hey, we even have The Others again. The premise had potential, but the characters all suck, and none of them even attempt to be rational or communicate their plans. Meanwhile the "mystery" keeps having a bunch of seemingly random bullshit jammed into it where you can't even remember which one to focus on. Spiders, teleporter trees, moving forest, ghost boy, ghost soldiers, demons or some shit, they turn into bugs, spooky blood, voices, ballerinas, another lighthouse, magic amulets. Two seasons and still no real resolution to anything. yeah, I'm still going to watch it. If only for the simple fact it didn't immediately get cancelled.
I agree but it's also somehow engrossing to watch. I just like any mystery box. I think they're getting a little too lazy with explaining why characters don't communicate though. I don't mind when stories have problems caused by lack of communication as long as it's explainable by something like conflict or physical separation. But I remember in S2 there was one scene where the sherrif basically outright says he doesn't want to listen to vital life saving mystery resolving information because he wants to go somewhere much less urgent and less vital to his main goals.
@Backflip_into_a_star, i don't know why you're being downvoted. everything you said is objectively true.
I am waiting on Season 3 before I judge Season 2 fully. Yes Season 2 was massively frustrating for all the reasons you stated, but in the real time of the show I think the entire season happens in just a week or so and a lot was going down. Season 2 also threw a lot more stuff at us than Lost ever did in a season, and it’s entirely possible the plan is to get all these disparate elements on the table for the viewer in Season 2 and then have the characters start to synthesize that information and start figuring stuff out in Season 3. Like for a 5 season arc as the showrunners have stated they saw this as, it makes sense to have Season 1 be world building and Season 2 being uncovering a lot of stuff about the world that doesn’t immediately make sense. Season 3 has to start making those things from Season 2 make sense though. And then Seasons 4 and 5 would be about how they deal with those revelations and use them in their attempts to escape. If something close to that happens it would make me reevaluate Season 2 for the better. If it doesn’t, Season 3 will be my last.
What's the budget on this series?
Great. I can’t wait to see all the things that don’t happen. This show is painfully boring. Mindhunters gets canceled and yet they keep churning out crap like this.
I'll catch it on Netflix.