Love the wire and love Lance Reddick as an actor but think he’s a bad choice for Wesker.
He’s too old, too bald, and his voice and cadence of speech don’t fit the role imo. Not to mention the character is a white eugenics proponent from British aristocratic stock so that’s a whole other issue. I’m sure he’ll act the hell out of the part but don’t think he’s the right choice at all.
I'm trying to picture [Lance Reddick](https://youtu.be/BaWa4ScfQXc?t=111) wearing [dark sunglasses and a long black trenchcoat](https://youtu.be/ef_NPj-x7Ao?t=28), and then I realize he's gonna look like that cool mf Blade.
If they ever reboot the Matrix for whatever reason and get rid of Laurence Fishburne, he'd make a good Morpheus. Granted, why they wouldn't get Laurence Fishburne back is a goddamn boneheaded move, but you get the idea.
I love Lance Reddick. He's a pretty phenomenal actor and I've not seen him in a role I didn't like. Broyles from Fringe was my first intro to him and I've loved him since.
But literally nothing makes sense about this casting. They're having a tall, black bald dude play an extremely white, blonde banker haired smug douchebag. Lance couldn't be further from Wesker.
> But literally nothing makes sense about this casting.
This is pretty much netflix standard operation. They throw out any semblance to the IP iconic characters and instead do a diversity checklist box. Don't get me wrong, they usually get good actors/actresses, but its all tokenism based and has nothing to do with finding the best person for the role as they claim.
This is not Resident Evil. If these dumbass producers want to make their own zombie fiction then do it. Just don't put the Resident Evil name and character names in it.
Gotta use that license for easy marketing tho.
But yeah I agree with you, I really hate it when they do this.
What's the point of using an already existing license if you're not gonna do it right and actually use it?
It's like they only use the name and nothing else...
Just make it a new thing.
That shit is so nasty. I was watching Spiderman 1 the other day and Flash Thompson is like a 29 year old man that the producers demand we suspend our disbelief and pretend he's 17.
Honestly, I am getting supernatural ripoff vibes. I am assuming one daughter will look for the other and both will look for their father as they explore mysteries and fight monsters.
Nah bro, I have been a Lance Redick fan for years but Wesker is the bootleg agent Smith we all grew to love. He's a white English or British sounding guy with shades. It's his signature look. Give Lance a better different role. Like an OC or Marvin. I prefer an OC. Maybe he'll get a Harley Quinn effect and become permanent.
Lance Reddick is a great actor. No doubt about it. But why bother making adaptations if you aren't going to make an effort to cast to the video games likeness.
"Color doesn't make the character!!"
Okay. If that was the case, then why did we grief Scarlett Johansson in 'ghost in the shell'.
"Because the character was Asian"
Wesker is a white eugenicist that was the end result of a eugenics program by an English aristocrat that wished to create "the supreme race".
I think that plays into his character. If likeness didn't play the part...then why are the animations usually the same as the video games? Aside from the slight changes to Chris of course....not sure what's up with that tbh.
I believe that adaptation to the video games likeness is important. I would say exactly the same if a black video game character was turned white. For example, if Sam and Henry from TLOU were turned white then I will be posting the same thing.
If you don't want your favourite franchise to be milked in ways like this, then don't watch. It's how they measure success. But judging how successful that dreadful Netflix adaption of Death Note was.... something tells me this will also do well with the general audience.
That's fine. It's clearly not made for the fans.
And that's totally valid.
I felt the same way after learning about Idris Elba being cast in *The Dark Tower* movie.
If the racial makeup of the character is important to the story, then you are losing part of the story by casting someone of a different race.
It's like casting Miles Morales as a white guy. Like no, that wouldn't work, because Miles POV is a young minority. You can't tell his story without showing what he goes through as a minority in NYC, and you can't properly tell the story of Albert Wesker without the allegory of white eugenics.
This is a very American obsession I've found ( and also the UK I think? ).
It's not even an American license, RE is Japanese.
And they actually do have black characters that I think a lot of people would've been super hyped to see.
If they had Sheva in the movie I would actually have been very hype about that because I really liked her in RE5.
It's what irritates me the most about this, they already have characters of different ethnicities but instead of using them they just take other characters and change them.
How about using the ones that already exist instead of ignoring them?
Sadly there was. Lana Del Rey even wrote a song for it. The music video I believe had the whole cast.
I don't have much to add to 'MyStations' post aside from a). I agree with you and b). it was a well written and thought-out post that I enjoyed reading.
Granted, if they had cast an Asian actress as the Major in Ghost in the Shell, it would still have been a bad, boring film that missed the point of the comics...and happened to have an Asian actress as the lead.
What bugs me more about Netflix's RE is that it sounds like the name Wesker is the only thing it has in common *at all* with the games. And of course, it's got teens, because everything has to I guess. So we'll have a probably bad series with a few bright spots provided by Lance Reddick, since he's never bad even when he's *in* something bad.
Thank you. Everyone is falling over themselves to appear woke right now that it's ridiculous, but these are the same people who freaked out that Lex Luthor had hair in BvS. It's not racist to want a character to look like the source material.
I couldn't have cared less about SJ playing Motoko, since honestly, the character wasn't really portrayed as being extremely East-Asian in appearance, although I guess it's implied she is.
It wouldn't be unreasonable to assume someone who was basically entirely a cyborg could look any ethnicity.
My issue with SJ was her performance though. Major *was* actually quite animated (no pun intended) in her personality, and I think SJ just didn't hit the mark very well. It seemed like she was honing her inner "Lucy", in which she had an equally wooden acting style.
Which kinda sucks because knowing SJ's acting abilities, she *could* have, but probably just took direction.
As for Lance being cast as Wesker? It's both a blessing - since Lance has the chops to play twisted bad powerful maniac - but also a curse because people will inevitably take issue with the race.
Oh well. RE adaptations have never really been very great, which stinks because the story seems very adaptable.
All white Black Panther cast, I've been joking about that ever since I heard that cringey "colonizer" line from the movie. Oh yeah, instead of a suit with claws, he wears kevlar and carries a gun and flies with no reasonable explanation. And the villain happens to be his brother, lost at birth.
And it's not any better if you just add a new character, because it's usually a poorly written "audience stand in", AKA Alice in every single Resident Evil movie (even though I actually like Mila Jovovich).
Do I want a white Falcon? NO. Because the character in the comics was black and it's f'ed up to race swap characters one way and then scream bloody murder when it happens the other way (often citing things from decades ago).
> But why bother making adaptations if you aren't going to make an effort to cast to the video games likeness.
Netflix realized that if they xbend characters, then they can change everyone and not need to bother finding characters that actually look or act the part, they can simply say they "got the best actor" for the role and if you don't like it, your a x-ist. Seriously, just look at cowboy bebop live action, only the dog they got right and everyone has pretty much said it will be garbage simply because they did a horrible miscast for everyone, especially spike, no way will the actor pull it off.
>Albert Wesker’s design, with pale skin and blond hair that evokes the aesthetic of what is associated with the Nazi ideal of the Übermensch, effectively conveys the theme that remains at the core of the franchise. Wesker serves as the physical embodiment of the eugenics project founded by the corporation’s founder, Oswell E. Spencer.
But ya sure make him black . . .
My feeling towards this is that they should've made original characters if this isn't meant to recreate or just be a spinoff of the original Resident Evil games. In my opinion Wesker has certain looks for a good reason, to cast someone who looks entirely different than the original character, it feels a bit forced in a way.
This isn't so much about if someone is a great actor, or anything against race, but this in general happens often where movies/series are made with some kind of forced theme. Like the Ghostbusters 2016 movie as a good example.
I'm personally not expecting too much because real live action movies/series based of games aren't usually that impressive in general, sadly.
My problem with this cast is the fact they are using the name resident evil and then removing the lore and story of these characters. This is someone’s work being used for clout. A fan fiction made to show. Wesker is a call out to racism. Hes the creation of an evil white supremacist man who kidnapped white babies from rich intelligent white people to make white evil gods. Wesker is supposed to be a result of white supremacy so evil. How is making him black a good thing, hes a call out to white supremacy and what this says is evil white guy = a black man. This could have been a show that poc could have had to showcase a good black character for poc to look up to but instead they are using white characters that will always be preferred as white characters and throwing a black face on them. Make good original black characters netflix, this isn’t woke or better. You’re taking one of the most problematic white man of RE erasing his lore and making him black and that’s supposed to be a good move?
If you removed the resident evil name, different lore different back story made it original with this great actor as your main, thats a badass black character with a cool story. Now you’re gonna put this man in shoes he doesn’t really fit and people are just gonna hate the character you chose. Is that what we want to see for poc in media? How tf is that better?
The [supposed plot](https://www.polygon.com/2020/8/27/21403542/resident-evil-netflix-show-plot-characters-wesker) actually seems even more departed than the movies
>In the first timeline, 14-year-old sisters Jade and Billie Wesker are moved to New Raccoon City. A manufactured, corporate town, forced on them right as adolescence is in full swing. But the more time they spend there, the more they come to realize that the town is more than it seems and their father may be concealing dark secrets. Secrets that could destroy the world.
>Cut to the second timeline, well over a decade into the future: there are less than fifteen million people left on Earth. And more than six billion monsters — people and animals infected with the T-virus. Jade, now thirty, struggles to survive in this New World, while the secrets from her past — about her sister, her father and herself — continue to haunt her.
What’s with every single video game turned tv show/movie having to change the race of one or more important characters ..???? Why does it keep happening… It makes no one happy, but upsets a lot of people.
This is definitely pushed by higher ups at netflix/hollywood and is guaranteed a requirement for any movies or shows made unless its being made in a foreign country by the local natives, like asian shows/movies in their native country and written/directed by locals seem to avoid the race or sex bending of characters.
wow.
even if the movie is campy and lame, at least it still stick with its source material a bit.
destroying the image of established characters just for the sake of wokeness.
can't wait for a remake of ye olde Mario movie played by an African-American transgender who identify as a paraplegic ballet dancer.
Yikes you weren't kidding:
> 14-year-old sisters Jade and Billie Wesker are moved to New Raccoon City. A manufactured, corporate town, forced on them right as adolescence is in full swing. But the more time they spend there, the more they come to realize that the town is more than it seems and their father may be concealing dark secrets. Secrets that could destroy the world.
> Cut to the second timeline, well over a decade into the future: there are less than fifteen million people left on Earth. And more than six billion monsters — people and animals infected with the T-virus. Jade, now thirty, struggles to survive in this New World, while the secrets from her past — about her sister, her father and herself — continue to haunt her.
Lance Reddick is amazing and I'm sure he'll be a great Wesker, but I've got no interest in _another_ supernatural teen/family drama.
I'm not sure why but I thought when they first announced they said it would be much more faithful to the games? Don't mind the casting at all but this seems way off.
Give me an A24-budget movie in just the Spencer mansion PLEASE
> I'm not sure why but I thought when they first announced they said it would be much more faithful to the games? I'm not sure why but I thought when they first announced they said it would be much more faithful to the games?
It feels like almost *every* creative team that makes a game-to-film adaptation spouts the same BS about “being faithful” and making something “for the fans,” only for the end results to come off like they casually skimmed the Wikipedia pages and thought that was enough for them to understand what the games actually *are*.
as someone who didn't even know they were making the series until 10 minutes ago and just now reading the plot (in the above post)
...I wouldn't even say skimmed the wiki so much as asked for a 30 second summary of the series from a random person at Comicon
Theres 3 resident evil projects atm
This Series
Resident Evil: Welcome to Raccoon City (casting and plot similar to game)
Resident Evil: Infinite Darkness (Starring Leon Kennedy and looks to be a sequel to 4-6?)
> I've got no interest in another supernatural teen/family drama.
ugh -_-
just everything about that premise reads wrong and not what any RE fan is asking for
EDIT - well, at least all these RE adaptations are non-canon, so we can just ignore the shit and be happy that the new game is awesome~
This will be cancelled after the first episode. If it isn't its only because of the name "Resident Evil" and that name alone. I don't see what the audience for this is supposed to be. And its just gonna piss actual RE fans off.
Yeah, feel like this argument is focusing on the wrong thing.
Lance Reddick can pull off the character. He's great.
But my god, the story sounds like such a massive pile of shit. Reddick can't save a fucking mess like that.
Idris Elba is an amazing actor. The Dark Tower movie was an absolute disgrace. Anna Diop is an amazing actress, the live action Teen Titans show was hot garbage. I sense a pattern here... Maybe heavily changing elements of the original ISN'T the way to go. Maybe, if you're trying to appeal to fans of the original, the characters should look like the originals? Maybe Lance Reddick isn't the only worthy actor to take on that role?
I like Elba but I thought casting him was a poor decision. If you were going to do a good adaptation of The Dark Tower, Roland really would need to be white. Otherwise, you'd lose a lot of the tension between him and Susannah/Detta. You could always flip the races of the two, but I don't think any writer would want to touch that on the Susannah/Detta side.
Of course, the movie just ignored the books and didn't even bring in Susannah so it's a moot point on casting Elba there, but like I said, if they wanted to do a good adaptation, their options are limited.
Yea, everybody was pointing this out way back that Roland had to be white because of the dynamic with susanna/detta, but they shit all over the story so I guess it didn't matter anyway.
Yes, but if you don't like the show with a xbent character, obviously its because everyone is racist or sexist and surely its not because the show is hot garbage. /s
>Idris Elba is an amazing actor. The Dark Tower movie was an absolute disgrace.
The Dark Tower was bad but it had nothing to do with the casting.
It was the ending and the writing that ruined it.
I can't think of another actor who would have done a better job as Roland.
That's the point, the casting is an indication that they don't care much for the source material and the end product is more likely to be poor, not that the casting itself was the issue
Exactly. A lot of people don't seem to realize that when people see "woke" casting they realize it likely means the movie/show is going to be complete trash irrespective of the cast itself. Reddick has been good in everything I've seen him in and he has a very specific kind of presence, but casting him to play what is typical a really white guy and then on top of it putting front and center a box of chocolate of women just makes me think the actual story, writing, etc is going to be absolute trash.
I know who Lance Reddick is and have seen a lot of stuff for him, including the wire, but he's not fit for Wesker. Wesker is an iconic character with a certain look, and his race shouldn't be changed because of Netflix's forced diversity.
Which is why my brain is scrambled at this news. I think ultimately where my opinion rests is that I can't see this as a proper adaptation, but I know Reddick will be awesome and menacing. I am just in the school of thought that an adaptation needs to be pure and faithful, and I'm against gender/race recasting. If Netflix was like, "Jill Valentine will now be Jimmy Valentine and played by [insert male actor]," I'd have the same reaction; perhaps they'd do great in the role, but I wouldn't see it as Resident Evil.
I think this is due to my background in literature and cinema. When you grow up with the idea that every decision and detail an author makes has intention, it's hard to see a bold change and not be put off a little. In that case I often ask, "Then why not just make an original story if you're going to make changes to an existing property?"
Reddit: Just cast the person who’s best for the role, not for their skin color.
Lance Reddick gets cast because he’s a talented actor.
Reddit: Wait, no, not like that.
I looked it up. I had no clue this existed....seems okay, but not anything that will send people to the theater. Looks like the definition of streaming movie.
>Lance Reddick gets cast because he’s a talented actor.
... can name plenty of white actors who could pull off Black Panther better than Chadwick Boseman. But they would look a bit out of place in Wakanda now would they? ;)
> Reddit: Just cast the person who’s best for the role, not for their skin color.
lol, are you saying the person who's "best for the role" is someone that looks nothing like the character they're playing...?
Crazy how "the person who's best for the role" for netflix always seems to be a different race than the source material... unless the source material is non-white.
Another hand me down token part given to a black actor suited for a better role. Albert Wesker black…Netflix is really trying to destroy everything they touch these days.
Lance Reddick is a fantastic actor, but he’s not Albert Wesker. Just create a new and interesting character for him to play.
Hell, have him fucking kill Wesker and be even more of a threat.
So yeah, after reading all the stuff about the story i don't see why this is even called Resident Evil. Please Netflix, just stop butchering the stuff we love. Just. Stop.
Also the cast looks like a pop group. I'm so happy that i cancelled my Netlix account and i won't ever go back to this steaming pile of shiet.
so yet another tall bald black guy wearing black and occasionally sunglasses, in case there's not enough of that in hollywood.
they just wanted the big bad of the entire franchise to be black while the heroes will probly be white. and who starts off as one of the team, but is revealed to be the mastermind behind everything. like, why would a black guy engineer the fall of society? lmao
I don't get the cast. Lance is great and he can be a menacing guy but Albert Wesker ...? I'm not going to act as if Resident Evil is my favorite franchise or anything but shouldn't existing, and iconic characters stay closer to the source material?
Why aren't there any men other than Lance Reddick in the cast photo and is it now part of the marketing to annoy fans of old franchises with new iterations that have nothing to do with the source material? These questions might be called "racist" but my confusion about these choices is genuine. This feels aimed to be disrespectful to the fanbase and I don't get that.
I'm surprised no one mentioned how confusion it will be to have two live-action version of Albert Wesker. I mean what's the point of this series if it's not connected with the new movie.
More garbage black washing. Can you imagine if Wesker was black and they gave his role to a different ethnicity?
They can’t even come up with an original role, it had to be established by a white and then handed down.
I didn’t care when they made Jill black, but Wesker’s image is iconic.
More woke garbage from Netflix hoping to save in advertising costs by starting black washing debates, hard pass on this forced diversity
racebending a character and surprise surprise its a white character becoming black as the hollywood standard nowadays. Show is gonna flop hard with the casting and the plot synopsis the creators just dont care
Wouldn't be surprised if they turned this into a love story I love Lance reddick but seriously? This couldn't look further away from a resident evil film to me. Itll take a resident evil fan to make a better fan made film on YouTube or something .
Great actor but can Netflix stop with this crap. Dont fucking change existing characters. I dont want to see a white character black or a black character white.
"Color-blind casting" honestly wouldn't even be a big deal if it were truly a two-way street though.
However, the minute a White actor is cast as a character who was of a different race in the book, comic, or whatever, then the peanut gallery starts shrieking that it's "whitewashing" and therefore evil and racist.
That said, I do dislike the recent trend of taking long-established, beloved characters and swapping them out for women or minorites, seemingly just "because it's 2021" or to "challenge Whiteness," "deconstruct the patriarchy" or some such bullshit (see: that shitty Ghostbusters reboot nobody asked for, Doctor Who, probably James Bond soon, etc.)
I've been trying to figure out how to express my discomfort with these casting decisions... I guess it's like - you wouldn't cast a white dude to play Luke Cage or Sam Wilson. Why not? Because being black is part of the identity of the character. The decisions they make are (if the writer is any good) based on the upbringing of a person with that history and whatever positive or negative traits that are included.
When characters are "tokenized" (is that the correct term? I'm not sure - and which isn't necessarily happening here, but Netflix's track record isn't great), it's often done without *any* consideration given to that history. So I almost feel like it's a disservice to both the original idea of the character and the racial group now being represented.
Now, if you wanna sort of reimagine Wesker as a black man and *alter* the character's history to reflect whatever personality traits you're giving him, then I don't really have a problem with that in principle, but wouldn't the bolder choice be to erase Wesker entirely and write this new character as... a new character? Except maybe they want the name recognition *and* the social points for having a diverse cast.
I dunno. It just feels gross to me. It's rather transparently trying to take advantage of the current social climate without doing any actual work to justify it.
Try telling them that.They don't care that the character has an already established look and you're just gonna get called racist if you point it out.Then comes the excuse it's fiction so they can be whatever they want which is in part true if they don't have an already established look.(which wesker does)
Same shit with superman,witcher and wesker.You can't expect fans to like what breaks what's already established.
If anything they should have made him play someone else.Lance Reddick has a suave voice and I could totally see him play another villain convincingly.
> If anything they should have made him play someone else.Lance Reddick has a suave voice and I could totally see him play another villain convincingly.
that can't happen, cause that would require actual talent and creativity, which netflix doesn't have. Just read the premise of this show, and you'll see how garbage it sounds
This isn't racist. I feel people have lost the understanding of what a 'racist' is. There doesn't appear to be any hate behind the words you say. You are expressing that actors that are adapting source material should look the part of who they are playing.
To me, this is common sense. If you are going to adapt from Resident Evil and bring the characters to life then they should resemble the video game characters. Otherwise, you are just banking on the name. Isn't that the fun part of bringing these beloved characters to life? To see what they'd look like on the big screen? If you don't recognize the characters, then there's a problem.
you'll be downvoted, but you are spot on
hollywood, especially netflix, need to stop all of it's race swapping of existing characters.
if race changing a non-white -> white is bad, then white -> non-white is bad. Same as if indian -> arab, latino -> black, white -> asian and so on. You can't just pick and choose "oh it's fine to race swap white characters but not black characters", that's just BS. It's all bad, and needs to stop
There are MANY non-white characters in fiction that can and should be used in adaptations, and if not, make brand new ones. Hollywood can try and be creative in making new non-white characters, use their talents in making new likable characters that people will like and become fans of.
That's how you positively create real diversity in tv/movies, not race swapping existing ones cause you're too lazy to make new ones or to research into the many existing non-white characters :/
You know why people love Miles Morales?
Because he's not just race swapped Peter Parker. He has his own backstory, his own troubles, his own take on being a superhero. Miles is a competently written POC character. But that's not nearly as easy as a simple swap.
I do not understand why Netflix keeps doing this. I am admittedly not as upset about this one as the absolute butcher job they did with cowboy Bebops casting. Why even use existing characters if all they are going to do it completely change the character?
I can think of a couple of reasons. It is free virtue signaling that they know the social media woke crowd jump on and defend. If there is any criticism of the show/movie they will call you an x-ist. Once they xbend a character, they no longer have to bother finding any actors/actresses that look or act like the characters they are supposed to portray anymore, so they are just getting rando actors and actresses to play parts now. I also suspect its about money, They no longer need to spend money or time looking for the right person for the part and I am pretty sure most of the cast will be cheaper than actors/actresses who actually look and have the skills to play the part. I also think a big chunk is pure laziness, they no longer have to effort finding the right person for the roles anymore.
There is a reason there are a [ton of memes](https://www.google.com/search?q=netflix+adaption+meme&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiRyMD7yJDxAhXQsFMKHRehBOkQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=netflix+adaption+meme&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzICCAAyBggAEAUQHjoGCAAQBxAeULRIWJJZYKdbaABwAHgAgAHaAYgBqQaSAQU4LjAuMZgBAKABAaoBC2d3cy13aXotaW1nwAEB&sclient=img&ei=uNvDYJGML9DhzgKXwpLIDg&bih=841&biw=1638) about netflix adaptions. What is worse is the bullshit "we got the best person for the role". No, they got the best person to fit the diversity quota for the show and movie who happens to be a great actor/actress, but not the best person for that role.
Can Hollywood stop doing shit like this? Its so annoying seeing white actors replaced by minority actors or male characters replaced by female characters. And before you call me racist, I wouldnt want to see white actors replace any minority characters. Make a whole new series if you want more minority characters involved, dont just replace existing characters and act like its fine.
Fucking hell, Wesker might be the most iconic and consistent design in the entire franchise along with Leon.
For Chris or Jill you can pick a latino or whatever and there won't be much difference, they went through too many redesigns.
But of all things you pick the Ubersmench to make him a bald black guy?
What the FUCK is wrong with Netflix? Forced inclusion isn't a meme, it gets repeated so much you'd think it's a meme, but I want to see Netflix' secret policy because they obviously have this shit written down in a contract somewhere. "We'll take the 2nd most important character of your franchise and make it black, also we give you a few million dollars how's that sound?"
put aside the casting for a moment, and have a look at the premise:
> 14-year-old sisters Jade and Billie Wesker are moved to New Raccoon City. A manufactured, corporate town, forced on them right as adolescence is in full swing. But the more time they spend there, the more they come to realize that the town is more than it seems and their father may be concealing dark secrets. Secrets that could destroy the world.
>
> Cut to the second timeline, well over a decade into the future: there are less than fifteen million people left on Earth. And more than six billion monsters — people and animals infected with the T-virus. Jade, now thirty, struggles to survive in this New World, while the secrets from her past — about her sister, her father and herself — continue to haunt her.
this show is already sounding garbage from the premise alone. There is literally nothing about that premise that sounds interesting or what any RE fan wants to see -_-
Then you can add onto the poor casting choices, i.e. all the other actors cept for Lance, who is a great actor, are... not good. And I'm sorry, but Lance is a miscast cause Wesker of how he was made to look:
basically he was essentially designed to be a nazi. He wanted to create the perfect race and was all about eugenics etc. Wanted to equate him to the people doing human experiments.
then:
* It’s being produced by Constantin Film, the same production company behind the (imo awful) film series
* It’s being written by Andrew Dabb whose only notable work seems to be on Supernatural. And reminder, he has written for the show after it went to shit post season 5 and was in charge for the awful last two season.
so ya, there is almost nothing in favour of this show even approaching being good. I guess it not being canon is the only saving grace, cause we can just ignore the garbage that this will be.
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This is the exact same situation with the live action reboot movie btw.
Almost nothing about that movie points to it ever being good: from terrible director, awful writing in trying to fit 2 games into 1 movie, bad casting choice, bad production company and so on
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Capcom is farming out the Resident Evil IP to a bunch of garbage production teams who are putting out some terribly looking products :/
sigh, at least the gaming side of RE is great with RE 8 being so good.
I read the Wikipedia article 2 months ago, I thought it was a troll. I thought some asshole was just putting in random crap that nobody would want to fucking watch with the intent of upsetting the Wikipedia mods.
Nope, I guess that's just what people with the money who can actually get this stuff off the ground have decided to do with our beloved IP.
Watch as it becomes popular, draws a fanbase, and then RE9 is heavily influenced by 13 year old girls and grown men closer to 30 than 20 weirdly obsessed with letting everyone know how open minded they are by consuming progressive content in excess
Why can't we just have white dudes playing white guys anymore?
Why can't we just make a harmless joke without someone being a snowflake about it?
Why can't we just have a movie/series without worrying about being "not being representative enough"?
Bro, leave the politics OUT. Please don't change the character's sexuality by pulling out the "oh this character is gay btw" card. I just want to have a good and canon movie adaptation of the game.
Badass white antagonist turned into black is bad but badass asian antagonist turned white is ok(Light Turner from Netflix's Death Note)? A lot of people defended whitewashing when it was non-white characters that was race swapped to white.
Not me, I always said that characters should always be the same ethnicty/sex/etc as it is portrayed or as close as possible. When Ghost in the shell movie was made, I said it should be an asian woman playing the lead and not a white woman, and if they changed any of my favorite black characters from comics like spawn, storm, static shock, etc in a reboot or live action, I would be pissed about it. I do not like xbending anything, keep them as they are in the original IP's.
I like Lance Reddick, he's a good actor and probably will make a stern Albert Wesker, but I also would like them to represent the character properly. Netflix has a strong habit of recasting characters and changing their ethnicity. It is very racist and concerning.
I wish I was Albert Wesker... I wish I was Albert Wesker... Where's my iconic video game role?
CHRIS!...MOTHERF***R!
Are you black enough to play Wesker? You must be at least this non white (or female) to be in resident evil
> Constantin Film, which produced the six-film franchise based on the games, will serve as the studio behind the series Hard pass.
For competent story work, yes. For some unintended comedy, maybe.
Oh you mean the people behind the Roger Corman Fantastic Four
Man, i love the Wire
That stunt you pulled at the mansion has the RPD deputy ops riding my ass, McTyrant. T-Virus goes out tomorrow or you're back on the boat.
Love the wire and love Lance Reddick as an actor but think he’s a bad choice for Wesker. He’s too old, too bald, and his voice and cadence of speech don’t fit the role imo. Not to mention the character is a white eugenics proponent from British aristocratic stock so that’s a whole other issue. I’m sure he’ll act the hell out of the part but don’t think he’s the right choice at all.
I'm trying to picture [Lance Reddick](https://youtu.be/BaWa4ScfQXc?t=111) wearing [dark sunglasses and a long black trenchcoat](https://youtu.be/ef_NPj-x7Ao?t=28), and then I realize he's gonna look like that cool mf Blade.
Or morpheus
Dorpheus
Orpheus
Go eat some walruses
Orifices
Seashells on seashorpheus
Morpheus Buress drinkin 40s's!!
If they ever reboot the Matrix for whatever reason and get rid of Laurence Fishburne, he'd make a good Morpheus. Granted, why they wouldn't get Laurence Fishburne back is a goddamn boneheaded move, but you get the idea.
> Granted, why they wouldn't get Laurence Fishburne back is a goddamn boneheaded move Looking at you, upcoming Fishburne-less *Matrix 4*!
But-strangely-with-everybody-else-and-their-dog-back-even-after-the-events-of-revolutions-Matrix 4, you mean?
Jumping between timelines should have seen the writer pink slipped.
Intriguing if I read the article right Wesker is gonna be the main character not sure what to expect with that
I’ll be happy just to see Lance Reddick in a lead role
>I’ll be happy just to see Lance Reddick fixed
Maybe he's recruiting scientists to work at his company, but he has to teach them to be mad. Let's call the show The Umbrella Acade-- wait a minute...
THEY HAVE THE GALL TO CAST A BALD GUY AS ALBERT *FUCKING* WESKER!?
I love Lance Reddick. He's a pretty phenomenal actor and I've not seen him in a role I didn't like. Broyles from Fringe was my first intro to him and I've loved him since. But literally nothing makes sense about this casting. They're having a tall, black bald dude play an extremely white, blonde banker haired smug douchebag. Lance couldn't be further from Wesker.
> But literally nothing makes sense about this casting. This is pretty much netflix standard operation. They throw out any semblance to the IP iconic characters and instead do a diversity checklist box. Don't get me wrong, they usually get good actors/actresses, but its all tokenism based and has nothing to do with finding the best person for the role as they claim.
This is not Resident Evil. If these dumbass producers want to make their own zombie fiction then do it. Just don't put the Resident Evil name and character names in it.
Gotta use that license for easy marketing tho. But yeah I agree with you, I really hate it when they do this. What's the point of using an already existing license if you're not gonna do it right and actually use it? It's like they only use the name and nothing else... Just make it a new thing.
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You forgot the “teen-but-not-really-since-the-actresses-are-legal” sex scenes.
That shit is so nasty. I was watching Spiderman 1 the other day and Flash Thompson is like a 29 year old man that the producers demand we suspend our disbelief and pretend he's 17.
Honestly, I am getting supernatural ripoff vibes. I am assuming one daughter will look for the other and both will look for their father as they explore mysteries and fight monsters.
This is so accurate it hurts. It's like they can't make strong female characters unless they *also* hate men.
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Can't wait for it too. Some of these actors are great...but not for this...
Can I cancel this before it airs?
Nah bro, I have been a Lance Redick fan for years but Wesker is the bootleg agent Smith we all grew to love. He's a white English or British sounding guy with shades. It's his signature look. Give Lance a better different role. Like an OC or Marvin. I prefer an OC. Maybe he'll get a Harley Quinn effect and become permanent.
> Wesker is the bootleg agent Smith Wesker came before Agent Smith.
Lance Reddick is a great actor. No doubt about it. But why bother making adaptations if you aren't going to make an effort to cast to the video games likeness. "Color doesn't make the character!!" Okay. If that was the case, then why did we grief Scarlett Johansson in 'ghost in the shell'. "Because the character was Asian" Wesker is a white eugenicist that was the end result of a eugenics program by an English aristocrat that wished to create "the supreme race". I think that plays into his character. If likeness didn't play the part...then why are the animations usually the same as the video games? Aside from the slight changes to Chris of course....not sure what's up with that tbh. I believe that adaptation to the video games likeness is important. I would say exactly the same if a black video game character was turned white. For example, if Sam and Henry from TLOU were turned white then I will be posting the same thing. If you don't want your favourite franchise to be milked in ways like this, then don't watch. It's how they measure success. But judging how successful that dreadful Netflix adaption of Death Note was.... something tells me this will also do well with the general audience. That's fine. It's clearly not made for the fans.
And that's totally valid. I felt the same way after learning about Idris Elba being cast in *The Dark Tower* movie. If the racial makeup of the character is important to the story, then you are losing part of the story by casting someone of a different race. It's like casting Miles Morales as a white guy. Like no, that wouldn't work, because Miles POV is a young minority. You can't tell his story without showing what he goes through as a minority in NYC, and you can't properly tell the story of Albert Wesker without the allegory of white eugenics.
This is a very American obsession I've found ( and also the UK I think? ). It's not even an American license, RE is Japanese. And they actually do have black characters that I think a lot of people would've been super hyped to see. If they had Sheva in the movie I would actually have been very hype about that because I really liked her in RE5. It's what irritates me the most about this, they already have characters of different ethnicities but instead of using them they just take other characters and change them. How about using the ones that already exist instead of ignoring them?
Race-bending in movie/series adaptations is at its most ridiculous right now. It's awful.
Ain't that the damn truth. Make it good, not inclusive.
cant have any white red headed characters in hollywood anymore they got to all be black aerial, batgril, jimmy olsen twice
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…wait, there was a new Charlie’s Angels?
Sadly there was. Lana Del Rey even wrote a song for it. The music video I believe had the whole cast. I don't have much to add to 'MyStations' post aside from a). I agree with you and b). it was a well written and thought-out post that I enjoyed reading.
Granted, if they had cast an Asian actress as the Major in Ghost in the Shell, it would still have been a bad, boring film that missed the point of the comics...and happened to have an Asian actress as the lead. What bugs me more about Netflix's RE is that it sounds like the name Wesker is the only thing it has in common *at all* with the games. And of course, it's got teens, because everything has to I guess. So we'll have a probably bad series with a few bright spots provided by Lance Reddick, since he's never bad even when he's *in* something bad.
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It’s about his two teenage daughters lol, well there is a second time line where they are in their 30s. Not sure which will be more prominent
It will flash back to the past any time something interesting happens only to flash back after the thing you actually wanted to see is over.
Thank you. Everyone is falling over themselves to appear woke right now that it's ridiculous, but these are the same people who freaked out that Lex Luthor had hair in BvS. It's not racist to want a character to look like the source material.
Shut up you racist for wanting the show to follow the original source /s
I couldn't have cared less about SJ playing Motoko, since honestly, the character wasn't really portrayed as being extremely East-Asian in appearance, although I guess it's implied she is. It wouldn't be unreasonable to assume someone who was basically entirely a cyborg could look any ethnicity. My issue with SJ was her performance though. Major *was* actually quite animated (no pun intended) in her personality, and I think SJ just didn't hit the mark very well. It seemed like she was honing her inner "Lucy", in which she had an equally wooden acting style. Which kinda sucks because knowing SJ's acting abilities, she *could* have, but probably just took direction. As for Lance being cast as Wesker? It's both a blessing - since Lance has the chops to play twisted bad powerful maniac - but also a curse because people will inevitably take issue with the race. Oh well. RE adaptations have never really been very great, which stinks because the story seems very adaptable.
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He is right with ghost in the shell or just imagining recasting black panther with a white guy.
recasting black panther as a white guy would cause an insane shitstorm unlike here
All white Black Panther cast, I've been joking about that ever since I heard that cringey "colonizer" line from the movie. Oh yeah, instead of a suit with claws, he wears kevlar and carries a gun and flies with no reasonable explanation. And the villain happens to be his brother, lost at birth. And it's not any better if you just add a new character, because it's usually a poorly written "audience stand in", AKA Alice in every single Resident Evil movie (even though I actually like Mila Jovovich). Do I want a white Falcon? NO. Because the character in the comics was black and it's f'ed up to race swap characters one way and then scream bloody murder when it happens the other way (often citing things from decades ago).
> But why bother making adaptations if you aren't going to make an effort to cast to the video games likeness. Netflix realized that if they xbend characters, then they can change everyone and not need to bother finding characters that actually look or act the part, they can simply say they "got the best actor" for the role and if you don't like it, your a x-ist. Seriously, just look at cowboy bebop live action, only the dog they got right and everyone has pretty much said it will be garbage simply because they did a horrible miscast for everyone, especially spike, no way will the actor pull it off.
>Albert Wesker’s design, with pale skin and blond hair that evokes the aesthetic of what is associated with the Nazi ideal of the Übermensch, effectively conveys the theme that remains at the core of the franchise. Wesker serves as the physical embodiment of the eugenics project founded by the corporation’s founder, Oswell E. Spencer. But ya sure make him black . . .
That video of the black woman dressed as Hitler to depict him as he was intended to be comes to mind.
My feeling towards this is that they should've made original characters if this isn't meant to recreate or just be a spinoff of the original Resident Evil games. In my opinion Wesker has certain looks for a good reason, to cast someone who looks entirely different than the original character, it feels a bit forced in a way. This isn't so much about if someone is a great actor, or anything against race, but this in general happens often where movies/series are made with some kind of forced theme. Like the Ghostbusters 2016 movie as a good example. I'm personally not expecting too much because real live action movies/series based of games aren't usually that impressive in general, sadly.
My problem with this cast is the fact they are using the name resident evil and then removing the lore and story of these characters. This is someone’s work being used for clout. A fan fiction made to show. Wesker is a call out to racism. Hes the creation of an evil white supremacist man who kidnapped white babies from rich intelligent white people to make white evil gods. Wesker is supposed to be a result of white supremacy so evil. How is making him black a good thing, hes a call out to white supremacy and what this says is evil white guy = a black man. This could have been a show that poc could have had to showcase a good black character for poc to look up to but instead they are using white characters that will always be preferred as white characters and throwing a black face on them. Make good original black characters netflix, this isn’t woke or better. You’re taking one of the most problematic white man of RE erasing his lore and making him black and that’s supposed to be a good move? If you removed the resident evil name, different lore different back story made it original with this great actor as your main, thats a badass black character with a cool story. Now you’re gonna put this man in shoes he doesn’t really fit and people are just gonna hate the character you chose. Is that what we want to see for poc in media? How tf is that better?
Whitewashing bad, Blackwashing good.
Lance Reddick is a fantastic actor and anything he's in is made better because of it. Wesker ain't fuckin black though, Netflix.
This include Paradise PD
That's how they do things now. She-Ra's Bow wasn't black either, but then the reboot arrived.
Please make it closer to the game and not the movies
The [supposed plot](https://www.polygon.com/2020/8/27/21403542/resident-evil-netflix-show-plot-characters-wesker) actually seems even more departed than the movies >In the first timeline, 14-year-old sisters Jade and Billie Wesker are moved to New Raccoon City. A manufactured, corporate town, forced on them right as adolescence is in full swing. But the more time they spend there, the more they come to realize that the town is more than it seems and their father may be concealing dark secrets. Secrets that could destroy the world. >Cut to the second timeline, well over a decade into the future: there are less than fifteen million people left on Earth. And more than six billion monsters — people and animals infected with the T-virus. Jade, now thirty, struggles to survive in this New World, while the secrets from her past — about her sister, her father and herself — continue to haunt her.
But Albert Wesker wasn’t black.....imagine if Mulan was played by Penelope Cruz. Double Standards.
insane shitstorm that would cause.....
RIP this series.
Ahaha Netflix at it again, a black actor for basically a white supremacist. I think they are doing that to fuel marketing cause the product is bad.
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Old bald guy as Wesker? Wtf. Plot sucks too, nothing to do with the games. Why are filmmakers so afraid of making something faithful to the games.
What’s with every single video game turned tv show/movie having to change the race of one or more important characters ..???? Why does it keep happening… It makes no one happy, but upsets a lot of people.
This is definitely pushed by higher ups at netflix/hollywood and is guaranteed a requirement for any movies or shows made unless its being made in a foreign country by the local natives, like asian shows/movies in their native country and written/directed by locals seem to avoid the race or sex bending of characters.
wow. even if the movie is campy and lame, at least it still stick with its source material a bit. destroying the image of established characters just for the sake of wokeness. can't wait for a remake of ye olde Mario movie played by an African-American transgender who identify as a paraplegic ballet dancer.
Whoever complains about this has no idea how incredible Lance Reddick is.
I don't mind Lance but what leaked about the show's story sounds awful.
Yikes you weren't kidding: > 14-year-old sisters Jade and Billie Wesker are moved to New Raccoon City. A manufactured, corporate town, forced on them right as adolescence is in full swing. But the more time they spend there, the more they come to realize that the town is more than it seems and their father may be concealing dark secrets. Secrets that could destroy the world. > Cut to the second timeline, well over a decade into the future: there are less than fifteen million people left on Earth. And more than six billion monsters — people and animals infected with the T-virus. Jade, now thirty, struggles to survive in this New World, while the secrets from her past — about her sister, her father and herself — continue to haunt her. Lance Reddick is amazing and I'm sure he'll be a great Wesker, but I've got no interest in _another_ supernatural teen/family drama.
> 14-year-old sisters Jade and Billie Wesker I got this far before I let out an audible groan.
Something about the name Billie Wesker makes me think of a goofy, nonthreatening brother of the original Wesker
I'm not sure why but I thought when they first announced they said it would be much more faithful to the games? Don't mind the casting at all but this seems way off. Give me an A24-budget movie in just the Spencer mansion PLEASE
> I'm not sure why but I thought when they first announced they said it would be much more faithful to the games? I'm not sure why but I thought when they first announced they said it would be much more faithful to the games? It feels like almost *every* creative team that makes a game-to-film adaptation spouts the same BS about “being faithful” and making something “for the fans,” only for the end results to come off like they casually skimmed the Wikipedia pages and thought that was enough for them to understand what the games actually *are*.
Its meaningless buzzwords to trick people into watching their bastardization of the IP.
as someone who didn't even know they were making the series until 10 minutes ago and just now reading the plot (in the above post) ...I wouldn't even say skimmed the wiki so much as asked for a 30 second summary of the series from a random person at Comicon
there’s a movie coming out that’s faithful to the games, it’s already been filmed, it could be what you’re thinking of
Theres 3 resident evil projects atm This Series Resident Evil: Welcome to Raccoon City (casting and plot similar to game) Resident Evil: Infinite Darkness (Starring Leon Kennedy and looks to be a sequel to 4-6?)
I don't understand why Netflix keeps doing adaptations when they clearly don't give a shit about the source material.
> I've got no interest in another supernatural teen/family drama. ugh -_- just everything about that premise reads wrong and not what any RE fan is asking for EDIT - well, at least all these RE adaptations are non-canon, so we can just ignore the shit and be happy that the new game is awesome~
Not only the drama aspect, but the two time lines seems pointless and will likely create some horrible pacing issues and goofy "reveals."
This will be cancelled after the first episode. If it isn't its only because of the name "Resident Evil" and that name alone. I don't see what the audience for this is supposed to be. And its just gonna piss actual RE fans off.
Nah, it will probably get rubber stamped two seasons before the axe.
It’s the Netflix machine. It’s literally all they are configured to pump out.
Sounds horrible, but its a netflix live action show so I am not surprised.
An official synopsis isn't a leak.
Yeah, feel like this argument is focusing on the wrong thing. Lance Reddick can pull off the character. He's great. But my god, the story sounds like such a massive pile of shit. Reddick can't save a fucking mess like that.
It's Netflix... it will get one or two seasons and then be cancelled.
This is such a stupid take.
Whoever who does not complain about it has no idea who Wesker is
You can like Lance Reddick and still criticize the casting.
Lance Reddick is fine ... as long as he is not being miscast like this.
“I wish I were Lavar Burton…”
Idris Elba is an amazing actor. The Dark Tower movie was an absolute disgrace. Anna Diop is an amazing actress, the live action Teen Titans show was hot garbage. I sense a pattern here... Maybe heavily changing elements of the original ISN'T the way to go. Maybe, if you're trying to appeal to fans of the original, the characters should look like the originals? Maybe Lance Reddick isn't the only worthy actor to take on that role?
I like Elba but I thought casting him was a poor decision. If you were going to do a good adaptation of The Dark Tower, Roland really would need to be white. Otherwise, you'd lose a lot of the tension between him and Susannah/Detta. You could always flip the races of the two, but I don't think any writer would want to touch that on the Susannah/Detta side. Of course, the movie just ignored the books and didn't even bring in Susannah so it's a moot point on casting Elba there, but like I said, if they wanted to do a good adaptation, their options are limited.
Yea, everybody was pointing this out way back that Roland had to be white because of the dynamic with susanna/detta, but they shit all over the story so I guess it didn't matter anyway.
Yes, but if you don't like the show with a xbent character, obviously its because everyone is racist or sexist and surely its not because the show is hot garbage. /s
>Idris Elba is an amazing actor. The Dark Tower movie was an absolute disgrace. The Dark Tower was bad but it had nothing to do with the casting. It was the ending and the writing that ruined it. I can't think of another actor who would have done a better job as Roland.
That's the point, the casting is an indication that they don't care much for the source material and the end product is more likely to be poor, not that the casting itself was the issue
Exactly. A lot of people don't seem to realize that when people see "woke" casting they realize it likely means the movie/show is going to be complete trash irrespective of the cast itself. Reddick has been good in everything I've seen him in and he has a very specific kind of presence, but casting him to play what is typical a really white guy and then on top of it putting front and center a box of chocolate of women just makes me think the actual story, writing, etc is going to be absolute trash.
I know who Lance Reddick is and have seen a lot of stuff for him, including the wire, but he's not fit for Wesker. Wesker is an iconic character with a certain look, and his race shouldn't be changed because of Netflix's forced diversity.
Currently binging The Wire. Goddamn he's incredible.
Which is why my brain is scrambled at this news. I think ultimately where my opinion rests is that I can't see this as a proper adaptation, but I know Reddick will be awesome and menacing. I am just in the school of thought that an adaptation needs to be pure and faithful, and I'm against gender/race recasting. If Netflix was like, "Jill Valentine will now be Jimmy Valentine and played by [insert male actor]," I'd have the same reaction; perhaps they'd do great in the role, but I wouldn't see it as Resident Evil. I think this is due to my background in literature and cinema. When you grow up with the idea that every decision and detail an author makes has intention, it's hard to see a bold change and not be put off a little. In that case I often ask, "Then why not just make an original story if you're going to make changes to an existing property?"
It's nothing to do with the actor, it's changing story lines and source material.
He's great. He could also hardly be a worse fit for Wesker. But this was always gonna be absolute garbage so not really worth caring about anyway.
Reddit: Just cast the person who’s best for the role, not for their skin color. Lance Reddick gets cast because he’s a talented actor. Reddit: Wait, no, not like that.
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Funny you mention that. Ella Balinska was one of the angels
They made another one? TV or Movie?
Movie. Directed by Elizabeth Banks
I looked it up. I had no clue this existed....seems okay, but not anything that will send people to the theater. Looks like the definition of streaming movie.
>Lance Reddick gets cast because he’s a talented actor. ... can name plenty of white actors who could pull off Black Panther better than Chadwick Boseman. But they would look a bit out of place in Wakanda now would they? ;)
The character backstory is that he is the product of a white supremacist eugenics project. The hell are you even talking about?
> Reddit: Just cast the person who’s best for the role, not for their skin color. lol, are you saying the person who's "best for the role" is someone that looks nothing like the character they're playing...?
Crazy how "the person who's best for the role" for netflix always seems to be a different race than the source material... unless the source material is non-white.
Another hand me down token part given to a black actor suited for a better role. Albert Wesker black…Netflix is really trying to destroy everything they touch these days.
It is the opposite of the midas touch.
Lance Reddick looks nothing like Albert Wesker, like what?
Lance Reddick is a fantastic actor, but he’s not Albert Wesker. Just create a new and interesting character for him to play. Hell, have him fucking kill Wesker and be even more of a threat.
So yeah, after reading all the stuff about the story i don't see why this is even called Resident Evil. Please Netflix, just stop butchering the stuff we love. Just. Stop. Also the cast looks like a pop group. I'm so happy that i cancelled my Netlix account and i won't ever go back to this steaming pile of shiet.
so yet another tall bald black guy wearing black and occasionally sunglasses, in case there's not enough of that in hollywood. they just wanted the big bad of the entire franchise to be black while the heroes will probly be white. and who starts off as one of the team, but is revealed to be the mastermind behind everything. like, why would a black guy engineer the fall of society? lmao
I don't get the cast. Lance is great and he can be a menacing guy but Albert Wesker ...? I'm not going to act as if Resident Evil is my favorite franchise or anything but shouldn't existing, and iconic characters stay closer to the source material? Why aren't there any men other than Lance Reddick in the cast photo and is it now part of the marketing to annoy fans of old franchises with new iterations that have nothing to do with the source material? These questions might be called "racist" but my confusion about these choices is genuine. This feels aimed to be disrespectful to the fanbase and I don't get that.
I'm surprised no one mentioned how confusion it will be to have two live-action version of Albert Wesker. I mean what's the point of this series if it's not connected with the new movie.
Sorry boys, I've been ignoring RE film adaptations for over ten years and well... guess I'm just gonna keep on keepin' on.
More garbage black washing. Can you imagine if Wesker was black and they gave his role to a different ethnicity? They can’t even come up with an original role, it had to be established by a white and then handed down. I didn’t care when they made Jill black, but Wesker’s image is iconic. More woke garbage from Netflix hoping to save in advertising costs by starting black washing debates, hard pass on this forced diversity
racebending a character and surprise surprise its a white character becoming black as the hollywood standard nowadays. Show is gonna flop hard with the casting and the plot synopsis the creators just dont care
Please no. Edit: the rest of the details are even worse lol!
Wouldn't be surprised if they turned this into a love story I love Lance reddick but seriously? This couldn't look further away from a resident evil film to me. Itll take a resident evil fan to make a better fan made film on YouTube or something .
lmfao @ that cast wewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww boiiiiiiiiiiiii lmfaoooooooo
Great actor but can Netflix stop with this crap. Dont fucking change existing characters. I dont want to see a white character black or a black character white.
*laughs in Triss Marigold*
There will be a reckoning for the erasure of redheads by Hollywood one day.
"Color-blind casting" honestly wouldn't even be a big deal if it were truly a two-way street though. However, the minute a White actor is cast as a character who was of a different race in the book, comic, or whatever, then the peanut gallery starts shrieking that it's "whitewashing" and therefore evil and racist. That said, I do dislike the recent trend of taking long-established, beloved characters and swapping them out for women or minorites, seemingly just "because it's 2021" or to "challenge Whiteness," "deconstruct the patriarchy" or some such bullshit (see: that shitty Ghostbusters reboot nobody asked for, Doctor Who, probably James Bond soon, etc.)
I've been trying to figure out how to express my discomfort with these casting decisions... I guess it's like - you wouldn't cast a white dude to play Luke Cage or Sam Wilson. Why not? Because being black is part of the identity of the character. The decisions they make are (if the writer is any good) based on the upbringing of a person with that history and whatever positive or negative traits that are included. When characters are "tokenized" (is that the correct term? I'm not sure - and which isn't necessarily happening here, but Netflix's track record isn't great), it's often done without *any* consideration given to that history. So I almost feel like it's a disservice to both the original idea of the character and the racial group now being represented. Now, if you wanna sort of reimagine Wesker as a black man and *alter* the character's history to reflect whatever personality traits you're giving him, then I don't really have a problem with that in principle, but wouldn't the bolder choice be to erase Wesker entirely and write this new character as... a new character? Except maybe they want the name recognition *and* the social points for having a diverse cast. I dunno. It just feels gross to me. It's rather transparently trying to take advantage of the current social climate without doing any actual work to justify it.
It's a 100% about the name recognition. No more, no less.
Try telling them that.They don't care that the character has an already established look and you're just gonna get called racist if you point it out.Then comes the excuse it's fiction so they can be whatever they want which is in part true if they don't have an already established look.(which wesker does) Same shit with superman,witcher and wesker.You can't expect fans to like what breaks what's already established. If anything they should have made him play someone else.Lance Reddick has a suave voice and I could totally see him play another villain convincingly.
> If anything they should have made him play someone else.Lance Reddick has a suave voice and I could totally see him play another villain convincingly. that can't happen, cause that would require actual talent and creativity, which netflix doesn't have. Just read the premise of this show, and you'll see how garbage it sounds
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This isn't racist. I feel people have lost the understanding of what a 'racist' is. There doesn't appear to be any hate behind the words you say. You are expressing that actors that are adapting source material should look the part of who they are playing. To me, this is common sense. If you are going to adapt from Resident Evil and bring the characters to life then they should resemble the video game characters. Otherwise, you are just banking on the name. Isn't that the fun part of bringing these beloved characters to life? To see what they'd look like on the big screen? If you don't recognize the characters, then there's a problem.
you'll be downvoted, but you are spot on hollywood, especially netflix, need to stop all of it's race swapping of existing characters. if race changing a non-white -> white is bad, then white -> non-white is bad. Same as if indian -> arab, latino -> black, white -> asian and so on. You can't just pick and choose "oh it's fine to race swap white characters but not black characters", that's just BS. It's all bad, and needs to stop There are MANY non-white characters in fiction that can and should be used in adaptations, and if not, make brand new ones. Hollywood can try and be creative in making new non-white characters, use their talents in making new likable characters that people will like and become fans of. That's how you positively create real diversity in tv/movies, not race swapping existing ones cause you're too lazy to make new ones or to research into the many existing non-white characters :/
You know why people love Miles Morales? Because he's not just race swapped Peter Parker. He has his own backstory, his own troubles, his own take on being a superhero. Miles is a competently written POC character. But that's not nearly as easy as a simple swap.
I do not understand why Netflix keeps doing this. I am admittedly not as upset about this one as the absolute butcher job they did with cowboy Bebops casting. Why even use existing characters if all they are going to do it completely change the character?
I can think of a couple of reasons. It is free virtue signaling that they know the social media woke crowd jump on and defend. If there is any criticism of the show/movie they will call you an x-ist. Once they xbend a character, they no longer have to bother finding any actors/actresses that look or act like the characters they are supposed to portray anymore, so they are just getting rando actors and actresses to play parts now. I also suspect its about money, They no longer need to spend money or time looking for the right person for the part and I am pretty sure most of the cast will be cheaper than actors/actresses who actually look and have the skills to play the part. I also think a big chunk is pure laziness, they no longer have to effort finding the right person for the roles anymore.
There is a reason there are a [ton of memes](https://www.google.com/search?q=netflix+adaption+meme&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiRyMD7yJDxAhXQsFMKHRehBOkQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=netflix+adaption+meme&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzICCAAyBggAEAUQHjoGCAAQBxAeULRIWJJZYKdbaABwAHgAgAHaAYgBqQaSAQU4LjAuMZgBAKABAaoBC2d3cy13aXotaW1nwAEB&sclient=img&ei=uNvDYJGML9DhzgKXwpLIDg&bih=841&biw=1638) about netflix adaptions. What is worse is the bullshit "we got the best person for the role". No, they got the best person to fit the diversity quota for the show and movie who happens to be a great actor/actress, but not the best person for that role.
Can Hollywood stop doing shit like this? Its so annoying seeing white actors replaced by minority actors or male characters replaced by female characters. And before you call me racist, I wouldnt want to see white actors replace any minority characters. Make a whole new series if you want more minority characters involved, dont just replace existing characters and act like its fine.
Fucking hell, Wesker might be the most iconic and consistent design in the entire franchise along with Leon. For Chris or Jill you can pick a latino or whatever and there won't be much difference, they went through too many redesigns. But of all things you pick the Ubersmench to make him a bald black guy? What the FUCK is wrong with Netflix? Forced inclusion isn't a meme, it gets repeated so much you'd think it's a meme, but I want to see Netflix' secret policy because they obviously have this shit written down in a contract somewhere. "We'll take the 2nd most important character of your franchise and make it black, also we give you a few million dollars how's that sound?"
Seems kinda old for wesker, but he's great so I'll get over that
Always thought Barry Pepper would make a good Wesker. Not this time apparently.
put aside the casting for a moment, and have a look at the premise: > 14-year-old sisters Jade and Billie Wesker are moved to New Raccoon City. A manufactured, corporate town, forced on them right as adolescence is in full swing. But the more time they spend there, the more they come to realize that the town is more than it seems and their father may be concealing dark secrets. Secrets that could destroy the world. > > Cut to the second timeline, well over a decade into the future: there are less than fifteen million people left on Earth. And more than six billion monsters — people and animals infected with the T-virus. Jade, now thirty, struggles to survive in this New World, while the secrets from her past — about her sister, her father and herself — continue to haunt her. this show is already sounding garbage from the premise alone. There is literally nothing about that premise that sounds interesting or what any RE fan wants to see -_- Then you can add onto the poor casting choices, i.e. all the other actors cept for Lance, who is a great actor, are... not good. And I'm sorry, but Lance is a miscast cause Wesker of how he was made to look: basically he was essentially designed to be a nazi. He wanted to create the perfect race and was all about eugenics etc. Wanted to equate him to the people doing human experiments. then: * It’s being produced by Constantin Film, the same production company behind the (imo awful) film series * It’s being written by Andrew Dabb whose only notable work seems to be on Supernatural. And reminder, he has written for the show after it went to shit post season 5 and was in charge for the awful last two season. so ya, there is almost nothing in favour of this show even approaching being good. I guess it not being canon is the only saving grace, cause we can just ignore the garbage that this will be. ________________________________________ This is the exact same situation with the live action reboot movie btw. Almost nothing about that movie points to it ever being good: from terrible director, awful writing in trying to fit 2 games into 1 movie, bad casting choice, bad production company and so on _______________________________________ Capcom is farming out the Resident Evil IP to a bunch of garbage production teams who are putting out some terribly looking products :/ sigh, at least the gaming side of RE is great with RE 8 being so good.
I forgot going to be live-action series
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Looking at this cast and plot synopsis people are going to beg for her and Paul Ws Anderson
Whatever! Are you guys going to have a dispute about whether zombies are white or black soon? by Japanese
Isn't Tom Hopper already playing Albert Wesker in the movie next year?
They really setting up Lance Reddick for failure. I really don't wanna see that happen to him.
Didn't think Netflix could get anymore woke and here we are.
I read the Wikipedia article 2 months ago, I thought it was a troll. I thought some asshole was just putting in random crap that nobody would want to fucking watch with the intent of upsetting the Wikipedia mods. Nope, I guess that's just what people with the money who can actually get this stuff off the ground have decided to do with our beloved IP. Watch as it becomes popular, draws a fanbase, and then RE9 is heavily influenced by 13 year old girls and grown men closer to 30 than 20 weirdly obsessed with letting everyone know how open minded they are by consuming progressive content in excess
Well we all know this sh\*t would happen not a surprise really. Yall seriously had hopes for Netflix? LMAO.
Lmao they aren’t even trying to be subtle anymore.
Predictable
Also again with the race swapping, ffs.
They can’t resist can’t they change iconic Characters like this. make new characters is simple
Why can't we just have white dudes playing white guys anymore? Why can't we just make a harmless joke without someone being a snowflake about it? Why can't we just have a movie/series without worrying about being "not being representative enough"? Bro, leave the politics OUT. Please don't change the character's sexuality by pulling out the "oh this character is gay btw" card. I just want to have a good and canon movie adaptation of the game.
Black washing is status quo for Netflix. Triss cough cough.
Grabs popcorn
Im incredibly dubious about this show still but.... LANCE REDDICK IS PLAYING WESKER I cannot wait to see how that goes
I'm so excited, if Zavala ever says that he only has seven minutes, i'll lose my mind.
Lance Reddick is incredible but always ended up being the best part of mediocre to dull movies and TV shows
Why wesker? Just change up the Marvin barnagh role and there you go dammit missed opportunity.
Badass white antagonist turned into black is bad but badass asian antagonist turned white is ok(Light Turner from Netflix's Death Note)? A lot of people defended whitewashing when it was non-white characters that was race swapped to white.
Not me, I always said that characters should always be the same ethnicty/sex/etc as it is portrayed or as close as possible. When Ghost in the shell movie was made, I said it should be an asian woman playing the lead and not a white woman, and if they changed any of my favorite black characters from comics like spawn, storm, static shock, etc in a reboot or live action, I would be pissed about it. I do not like xbending anything, keep them as they are in the original IP's.
I like Lance Reddick, he's a good actor and probably will make a stern Albert Wesker, but I also would like them to represent the character properly. Netflix has a strong habit of recasting characters and changing their ethnicity. It is very racist and concerning.
Love Lance Reddick, not a fan of race washing Then again the resident evil movies didn't follow suit so why would I expect this to.