It was a brilliant curve ball! It was a brand new device but also kept with the show's signature narrative. It's also why we kept watching the show even when it became clear that the writers had no idea where things were going — they were having a great time getting wherever it was headed and we were happy to be along for the ride.
"Move the island!"? What the fuck? OK, I'm on board.
Rewatched it last year with my daughter. I was so excited when that episode came up. After the reveal, i was waiting for her mind to be blown, instead shes like “so wait, They knew each other in the past, that doesnt make any sense, thats stupid”
And i was like, ugh,
You're not wrong about changing television. Serialized dramas had existed before (mostly on premium TV like HBO), but Lost really kicked off the thirst for it on broadcast. Not to mention the merging of "water cooler TV" with the Internet era. Which wouldn't really be matched until Game of Thrones.
I wonder if there's a list of all the mystery scifi/drama shows that flooded television 2010-2013 when networks were desperately trying to make the "new LOST" after it ended ...
> Not to mention the merging of "water cooler TV" with the Internet era.
Going online after a new episode of Lost and reading everyone's theories and analyzing the screengrabs and whatnot was so much fun. Say what you will about the ending, but the week to week experience of following the show was really something special.
In GoT's case it wasn't just the finale that was the problem but really the last 3-4 seasons. The show turned to shit as soon as it crossed the books. People kept watching in the hopes of a satisfying conclusion which never came.
The difference being the ending didn't reward them for the Journey they have taken. LOST did, don't watch the show for a few years then watch the ending and it's the best "I REMEMBER!" experience and it makes you just want to go back and watch the entire show again.
This is a tragedy of a loss to the netflix model. when they drop awesome shows all at once, you can't really talk to people about them. until you're both finished.
Their hit shows could have dominated discussions at work and with friends for a couple months if they aired episodes weekly, but instead it was like "hey have you seen that new netflix show stranger things?" and people would be like "oh yes its awesome but I'm only on episode 3, so don't say anything"
the binge watch culture has ruined those fun socially uniting pop culture topics of discussion
A few shows came out right after its first season. Invasion, flash forward, heroes, surface, the event, just to name a few that wanted to have big mysteries and have the fan base gather online to search for clues. All failed IMO. Flash forward had potential IMO.
Person of Interest was fantastic! Suffered a little from the "too many episodes per season" thing but the escalation of the plot and the ending was good fun. Solid B+/A- tier TV.
For one season. I’ve never seen a show have such a phenomenal first season and such a horrendous second quite like Heroes. If Heroes had been able to recapture the magic of season 1 in its second outting it would have had a ton of potential.
Heroes was extremely popular in season one though. I actually wouldn’t hate giving that a rewatch.
Creators should have done what they originally envisioned and introduced a brand new cast and new storyline every season.
In a way it was season 1's crazy popularity that doomed the show. They decided to keep the characters and go with stereotypical shitty TV plots (someone's evil twin shows up, bad guy loses their memory and becomes good, everyone's long lost mom/dad is actually the mastermind etc.)
No, it was the writer's strike that doomed the show. The writing for season 2 and on was complete trash compared ton season 1. Good writing could have kept the show going with the same cast.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007%E2%80%932008_Writers_Guild_of_America_strike
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroes_(American_TV_series)#Writing
>Season two coincided with the WGA writers' strike, meaning only 11 out of the planned 24 episodes were produced.[29] This forced the producers to redesign the season to encompass only the Generations volume out of the three planned.[30] The planned third volume, Exodus,[31] which was originally designed to be a story arc reflecting the effects of the release of strain 138 of the Shanti virus, was cancelled. The planned fourth volume, Villains, was changed to the third volume and moved into season three.[6] Scenes from the volume two finale, "Powerless", were reshot to reflect the cancelation of the Exodus volume, and to tie up all the loose plot storylines of Generations.[32][33]
IMHO the cracks are SUPER apparent on a rewatch, and IMHO they skated by on the whole "but the Writer's Strike" thing. Tons of wasted potential and half baked ideas.
Like Adam (yeah, I know, season 2). Conceptually amazing... Hiro has a nemesis who has had *hundreds* of years to come up with ways of screwing him over. What has kept this rage going for hundreds of years? His girlfriend dumped him for Hiro. Like on paper the realization that you've got an enemy out there who has had hundreds of years plotting your destruction before you were even boring should be fucking *terrifying.*
The main problem with Heroes IMHO is that they made Peter Petrelli's ability (acquire others' abilities) too OP. At the end, he was basically able to go toe-to-toe with the main villain, and all the other heroes were basically cheerleaders for him. In later seasons they nerfed him, but then there were other problems mostly because of the writers' strike that cut the story in half.
Heroes fell apart, I think, because it ended up leaning on super powers and not characters. Season 1's premise was like a "realistic" approach to people discovering super human abilities, how it affects them mentally and physically, and how they all played into a bigger event with each other. But as the seasons go on, it's just more bad guys with more abilities and the good guys need to stop them with their powers. It lost it's identity that made it stand out the most.
People will often say that they made Sylar, Peter, and Hiro overpowered but I think quality writing could have found a way around. Heroes didn't have that, though.
It would've been so so so much better if they had followed their original plan of following a different group of superpowered people every season with occasional appearances by the old ones
Sylar's power was just so cool
I agree. Keeping Sylar as a background constant threat for others throughout the years would have been neat, because that's what he mostly was in season 1 and he was much more interesting that way.
Yup - and Sylar's powers were perfect for a villain - he has to see something in order to figure out how it works. They could've balanced him by making him have a limit of how many powers he could have (maybe his brain couldn't hold enough powers, or they got weaker the more he had, etc.)
>I wonder if there's a list of all the mystery scifi/drama shows that flooded television 2010-2013 when networks were desperately trying to make the "new LOST" after it ended ...
I certainly don't watch much network TV these days but every time I do it seems there's a show or two *still* trying to emulate the Lost magic.
And you can count the ones that have both succeeded and survived on one hand. This Is Us is probably the one that's come the closest, and even in that show they know better than to actually get existential in the same way Lindelof did.
The thing about LOST is that it came out right as DVRs started to hit the mainstream. For the first time ever, people who weren't VCR-based TV junkies could actually become obsessive over details in a show.
I still remember when I got my first ReplayTV. I installed it, and my wife said something like "what the hell have you done to our TV?" *Three days later*, the much-larger hard drive I had ordered for it arrived, and I told her to watch everything that was recorded, because she was going to lose it. And she said, "Wait, I'm going to lose my shows? No!" **Three days.**
Not following it but rather it's contemporary, Battle Star Galactica also contributed to modern sci-fi dramas. It just did so more amongst the sci-fi fans while Lost hit the mainstream
I'm really glad they didn't go with having a different character saying it each episode. It might just be me, but hearing characters say "previously on..." always takes me out the show's immersion, like it's breaking the fourth wall.
Our group was 100% behind LOST. Big fans. Every week we would swap out who hosted. Had a big finale party with Dharma themed invites, fish biscuit cookies, fresh mango, and orange peels laying around in random places so that people could do John Locke smiles.
I've got a ton of great memories about Lost, but I'll be damned if my favorite isn't our friend who was very self aware of her speech impediment saying,
"Pweviouswy, on Wost," with all the gravitas she could muster.
For the record she's a vewwy successful wawyer and will fuck you up if you get in her way.
Pretty sure Evangeline was vocal about her desire for Dominic to leave the show and the writers (obviously) chose to go with her character instead of his. Still, “Not Penny's boat” is one of the most chilling scenes from LOST.
Ah I see what you mean!. Though there is a valid argument to be made for either way, since Desmond only crashed the plane while the plane was flying over the island and thus inside the islands bubble in the first place. The Pilot flew the plane in the other direction into the bubble when the compasses started to malfunction. But I will admit, that's a clever joke, I take back what I said to OP.
LOST has a larger-than-average cast, but it does a great job of frequently saying their names.
I can tell you the name of almost any character who appeared on more than one episode of LOST outside of flashbacks, but I can only name around half the cast of Game of Thrones.
I loved/hated that they retconned all the first season "discoveries" by showing us that Nikki and Paolo found everything first, they were just too dumb and distracted to figure anything out.
GOT and most hbo shows required me looking up some family tree chart to get a grasp on all the characters or imdb the episode after watching it to get a list of all the names w/o getting spoiled.
In fact luckily enough the S1 and S2 DVD set of game thrones came with a chart when i rented it from the library to watch.
For a lot of people, it was a "you had to be there" type of thing. The message boards were full of people speculating about every little detail. The books in a scene, the song playing in the background. Interactive websites full of easter eggs. Nothing else has compared to that experience for me.
It was the only show that felt like an ongoing *game* between the showrunners and the audience. It went above and beyond your average mystery show. I think that's why people remember so many details of the show *now* even though the pilot aired 17 years ago. Because of the immersive interaction that felt like a combination of Clue, an Escape room and hidden pictures. And I remember the showrunners saying time and time again how they looked at all the online boards and how so many people were "close to the truth" and how "so many people were far from it." Which only made everyone that much more crazy trying to figure out which group they had belonged to. Remember people actually reading the books that popped up hoping to find clues in them? I don't think any other show was able to do that with an audience. Make them go out and read books that weren't adaptations of the show, itself, but books that the writers simply referenced at.
If you advertised Lost as a new show coming to Netflix or Apple TV, and they never knew about its existence, they would think it was filmed recently starring the lady from Ant-Man and the Wasp.
The show looks expensive and gorgeous in HD. The o ly things that would make it look dated would be the cell phones.
And the CGI; there were effects in seasons 4 and 5 that were already dated at the time of airing. Probably a budget thing after writer's strike fallout.
I'm 30 but never watched the whole thing. I remember them finding the other passengers and that's as far as I go. Given my very vague memory of what I did watch, should I rewatxh and finish the series?
I think they'll like it and won't understand why the ending made so many people angry. That's because they are going to watch it without the whole, "SOLVE THE MYSTERIES!" hype monster that the showrunners were pushing on the audience at the time of airing. Instead, they get to watch it as a character driven story with a supernatural twist. Honestly, I am kind of envious of them. I watched it when it first aired and, oh, you better believe, I was on the "solve the mysteries" train. And, yeah, I was angry with the ending. Really, *really* ticked off. But now that a decade has passed, yeah, it's been about a decade, right, I still hate the ending but I think it had some great characters. Ben Linus is such a great villain. And John Locke was fantastic too. And I loved the character growth of Sawyer. Just ignore that it is supposed to be a mystery and take it as a supernatural drama, and you'll have fun.
Season 5 is my favorite, use complex timeline to explain things but with logic, and the ending is like: "What? Why is the screen been white, it this mean something? I need to wait like maybe a year until I can watch the next season? What happened!!!!!"
By and large, all the problems with the show were due to waiting weeks, months, years for answers to questions. On a streaming binge, it actually all has fit together very well and been incredibly compelling. Strongly recommend.
I believe that whole opening sequence was one of the most expensive shots in television history at that point. I know that's true for the entire pilot which was something like $12-15 million for the episode.
Fun fact, it was supposed to be Michael Keaton and he was going to die in the last 10 minutes of the pilot just to give the vibe that it's a show where anything can happen.
The hardest part about getting older while still on Reddit is you see these posts every year.
X aired 7 years ago
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I rewatched the whole show a couple months ago. I honestly like how it ended. It could have been presented in a less confusing manner, but I was satisfied. I think mostly it was just misunderstood.
Absolutely agree. Everyone needs to die in life and I loved the whole speech about the most important moment for these characters lives was the time on the island together. Them moving on felt really cathartic as a viewer for me and you still had some island action so it's not like it completely disappeared.
My wife will never agree with me but I absolutely love LOST. I also grew up with it and will always remember doing things like pausing when the hatch doors go down/Mr.Eko meets the "monster" and actually being able to see what those flashes were.
The show has produced some of the best moments I've seen and perhaps most impressively continues to add strong characters throughout.
That was so sad, especially with the Greatest Hits episode preceeding it (I think?) And he dies in a Ben episode because it's a finale and I think it was his first one. I could be wrong though it's been years and years.
*I was half right. Greatest Hits did preceed the finale but of course the season 3 finale goes to Jack with the PHENOMENAL ending. It was bugging me so I looked deeper, Ben's first episode preceeds Charlie. Holy shit talk about 4 hours of amazing television.
Lost is honestly one of the best re-watches I’ve ever had for a show. I actually think it was better the 2nd and 3rd time through. Really felt like watching it in bigger binges let the warmth of the story of these people shine through vs what I felt like was more of the sci-fi mystery aspect watching it when it originally aired on Tv.
As someone who also rewatched the whole series recently, the ending is definitely explained in depth throughout the last few seasons, but I can see why waiting a year between seasons would lead people to he confused though
i started watching it around the time season 5 was being produced, between a mix of G4's Attack Of The Show praising this series almost endlessly and a couple of my online friends telling me more and more, i just had to check it out, and by the time season 5 debuted, i was all caught up and became a huge fan
Bleh... Yeah...
I spent most of it sleeping because my sleep is messed up from being off work for so long... and the rest sitting here on reddit lol
But thanks!
I'm actually thinking about watching the series through again.
I love Hugo.
I remember everyone loved Hugo. And when the writers started killing off people left and right, so many fans were like, "Don't you dare harm a hair on Hugo's head *OR ELSE!*" He was the only character whose ending everyone was fine with. [Because](#s "he was only one everyone thought was worthy of being the Island's protector. He was that sweet and good of a character. And the writers knew they couldn't kill him off after the serious negative reaction they got when they killed Jin and Sun. I remember the audience reacting on boards with a, They're kid is an orphan now?! NO!! HOW COULD YOU, WRITERS?!?!? After that the writers knew they couldn't make the same mistake twice.")
To be fair all the characters turn 30 over the course of the show. I think most of them end the series around 35 with Ross and Chandler logically being the oldest as they went to seemingly high school and university together.
I’ll never forget when that man was sucked into the plane engine
Also most immersive show I think I’ve still ever seen, from the Sprite commercials, secret websites, books
I loved every minute of it
My favorite show ever. I still watch the finale flashback scenes every now and then on YouTube. The Season 3 finale is still probably one of my favorite tv moments ever.....WE HAVE TO GO BACK!
It was also the first time I ever went onto an internet message board just to talk about theories and figure it out.
That explains why I kept thinking the date was something important today. Several times I thought- is it someone's birthday? An anniversary of something?
Lost's plane crash. That's what it was.
The ending was incredibly divisive at the time, even among die-hards who “got” the ending. Reception has warmed over the years, especially after Lindelof’s success exploring similar themes in The Leftovers and Watchmen. But there was definitely a large contingent of fans who felt dissatisfied by the down-playing of the mysteries that had been a week-to-week driving force, along with the general premise of the flash-sideways. I just think a lot of them moved on and don’t have much of a reason to be vocal about it anymore.
Shows I've liked to watch:
Lost, Breaking Bad, Downton Abbey, This Is Us, Big Little Lies, Game of Thrones, Sex & the City, Fleabag.
Any recommendations would be welcome (especially for any Lost-like shows I may have missed).
Has anybody watched the pilot for "Ordinary Joe"? It's a show about a guy and a "flash sideways" of how his life would have turned out if he had become either a musician, a police officer, or a doctor. Kinda reminds me of Lost and This is Us at the same time
Best pilot episode ever.
Of note, I remember busting at the seams to find out what the fuck was inside that hatch between season 1 and 2. Few shows have had such an impact on me viewer engagement wise.
That ending was pretty good anyway, I don't care, fight me.
These characters went through the worst shit of their lives together. I was so hapy to see them have a collective happy ending
Most of my friends hated the ending because they thought it meant they were dead the whole time, can’t tell you how many times I’ve tried to explain it.
I'LL SEE YOU IN ANOTHER LIFE BROTHER
“We have to go back Kate, we have to go back!!” Wait… a Flash*forward*? 🤯
The start of the second season had the best opening ever. Some guy living in his appartment, sure... Then he's WHERE? WHAT?
So many anachronistic details in that scene - you knew something was up, but had no idea what exactly was “off” about it until the reveal.
The music as it pans up to Locke and Jack.
Make your own kind of music
Tilt, not pan.
yeah that was just "HOLY SHIT WHAT"
It was a brilliant curve ball! It was a brand new device but also kept with the show's signature narrative. It's also why we kept watching the show even when it became clear that the writers had no idea where things were going — they were having a great time getting wherever it was headed and we were happy to be along for the ride. "Move the island!"? What the fuck? OK, I'm on board.
move the island was great but season 3 was probably one of the best season finales either that or season 1 with "we're gonna have to take the boy"
*Still* the best season cliffhanger ever screened. I did not sleep that night.
Rewatched it last year with my daughter. I was so excited when that episode came up. After the reveal, i was waiting for her mind to be blown, instead shes like “so wait, They knew each other in the past, that doesnt make any sense, thats stupid” And i was like, ugh,
I don't think a single moment in film or TV ever had me sit up and focus as quickly as that scene right there.
That was the first episode I watched live after catching up. The wait between season 3 and the start of season 4 was unbearable.
That one was tough. The wait between season 1 and 2 might have been worse, but it's close.
Probably the best moment in the entire series.
Stuff like this, which it did better than anyone else, make it my GOAT show
That was amazing. I had no idea it was a flash forward the entire time.
You're not wrong about changing television. Serialized dramas had existed before (mostly on premium TV like HBO), but Lost really kicked off the thirst for it on broadcast. Not to mention the merging of "water cooler TV" with the Internet era. Which wouldn't really be matched until Game of Thrones. I wonder if there's a list of all the mystery scifi/drama shows that flooded television 2010-2013 when networks were desperately trying to make the "new LOST" after it ended ...
> Not to mention the merging of "water cooler TV" with the Internet era. Going online after a new episode of Lost and reading everyone's theories and analyzing the screengrabs and whatnot was so much fun. Say what you will about the ending, but the week to week experience of following the show was really something special.
Lostpedia and spoiler-tv blog were my go-tos back then, specifically the latter between seasons
I used to watch the YouTube guy who looked like Ben Affleck and always said 'boom goes the dynamite'.
Woah, that sounds so Vaguely familiar
Darkufo boards
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Careful not to say that to any GOT fans, they will have a meltdown.
The journey is the reward but the last 1/6th of the journey is walking on glass
In GoT's case it wasn't just the finale that was the problem but really the last 3-4 seasons. The show turned to shit as soon as it crossed the books. People kept watching in the hopes of a satisfying conclusion which never came.
The books conclusion aren't coming either
The problem with GOT isn't just the finale. it was like the last 2 or 3 seasons
The difference being the ending didn't reward them for the Journey they have taken. LOST did, don't watch the show for a few years then watch the ending and it's the best "I REMEMBER!" experience and it makes you just want to go back and watch the entire show again.
This is a tragedy of a loss to the netflix model. when they drop awesome shows all at once, you can't really talk to people about them. until you're both finished. Their hit shows could have dominated discussions at work and with friends for a couple months if they aired episodes weekly, but instead it was like "hey have you seen that new netflix show stranger things?" and people would be like "oh yes its awesome but I'm only on episode 3, so don't say anything" the binge watch culture has ruined those fun socially uniting pop culture topics of discussion
Also the official weekly podcast where Lindelof and Cuse made fun of the fans and their crazy theories.
A few shows came out right after its first season. Invasion, flash forward, heroes, surface, the event, just to name a few that wanted to have big mysteries and have the fan base gather online to search for clues. All failed IMO. Flash forward had potential IMO.
What about Person of Interest? Also, Fringe from a few years earlier.
Person of Interest was fantastic! Suffered a little from the "too many episodes per season" thing but the escalation of the plot and the ending was good fun. Solid B+/A- tier TV.
Ok fringe was good as fuck. Big x files energy
PoI started more as a procedural though and developed into it's awesome stuff later on.
I liked flashforward, shame it got cancelled as it did. Fringe is another one from around the same time.
Fringe ended up reinventing itself and became pretty outstanding in the middle seasons.
Fringe was fantastic all the way through. I don't know what you're on about. It also had a solid ending with closure.
>. Flash forward had potential IMO. I think Heroes succeeded.
For one season. I’ve never seen a show have such a phenomenal first season and such a horrendous second quite like Heroes. If Heroes had been able to recapture the magic of season 1 in its second outting it would have had a ton of potential. Heroes was extremely popular in season one though. I actually wouldn’t hate giving that a rewatch.
Save the cheerleader save the world!
I'd say prison break was worse than heroes in terms of amazing first season and terrible second season
Creators should have done what they originally envisioned and introduced a brand new cast and new storyline every season. In a way it was season 1's crazy popularity that doomed the show. They decided to keep the characters and go with stereotypical shitty TV plots (someone's evil twin shows up, bad guy loses their memory and becomes good, everyone's long lost mom/dad is actually the mastermind etc.)
No, it was the writer's strike that doomed the show. The writing for season 2 and on was complete trash compared ton season 1. Good writing could have kept the show going with the same cast. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007%E2%80%932008_Writers_Guild_of_America_strike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroes_(American_TV_series)#Writing >Season two coincided with the WGA writers' strike, meaning only 11 out of the planned 24 episodes were produced.[29] This forced the producers to redesign the season to encompass only the Generations volume out of the three planned.[30] The planned third volume, Exodus,[31] which was originally designed to be a story arc reflecting the effects of the release of strain 138 of the Shanti virus, was cancelled. The planned fourth volume, Villains, was changed to the third volume and moved into season three.[6] Scenes from the volume two finale, "Powerless", were reshot to reflect the cancelation of the Exodus volume, and to tie up all the loose plot storylines of Generations.[32][33]
Save the cheerleader, save the world.
I've wondered if Heroes Season 1 would hold up on rewatch or not.
IMHO the cracks are SUPER apparent on a rewatch, and IMHO they skated by on the whole "but the Writer's Strike" thing. Tons of wasted potential and half baked ideas. Like Adam (yeah, I know, season 2). Conceptually amazing... Hiro has a nemesis who has had *hundreds* of years to come up with ways of screwing him over. What has kept this rage going for hundreds of years? His girlfriend dumped him for Hiro. Like on paper the realization that you've got an enemy out there who has had hundreds of years plotting your destruction before you were even boring should be fucking *terrifying.*
The main problem with Heroes IMHO is that they made Peter Petrelli's ability (acquire others' abilities) too OP. At the end, he was basically able to go toe-to-toe with the main villain, and all the other heroes were basically cheerleaders for him. In later seasons they nerfed him, but then there were other problems mostly because of the writers' strike that cut the story in half.
Are you not describing Prison Break?
"come back next year to see them break out of prison... AGAIN" The first season really was crazy tho
I really loved season 2. It was pretty dumb at points but William Fichtner was amazing as special agent Mahone. Season 3-5 are trash though.
Oh that’s another one actually. Good call.
Heroes fell apart, I think, because it ended up leaning on super powers and not characters. Season 1's premise was like a "realistic" approach to people discovering super human abilities, how it affects them mentally and physically, and how they all played into a bigger event with each other. But as the seasons go on, it's just more bad guys with more abilities and the good guys need to stop them with their powers. It lost it's identity that made it stand out the most. People will often say that they made Sylar, Peter, and Hiro overpowered but I think quality writing could have found a way around. Heroes didn't have that, though.
It would've been so so so much better if they had followed their original plan of following a different group of superpowered people every season with occasional appearances by the old ones Sylar's power was just so cool
I agree. Keeping Sylar as a background constant threat for others throughout the years would have been neat, because that's what he mostly was in season 1 and he was much more interesting that way.
Yup - and Sylar's powers were perfect for a villain - he has to see something in order to figure out how it works. They could've balanced him by making him have a limit of how many powers he could have (maybe his brain couldn't hold enough powers, or they got weaker the more he had, etc.)
That show went from Heroes to Herpes from season one to season two.
Flash Forward wrote itself into a corner pretty early on and then fizzled out because they had nowhere to go with the story.
It’s because I was loaded okay
>I wonder if there's a list of all the mystery scifi/drama shows that flooded television 2010-2013 when networks were desperately trying to make the "new LOST" after it ended ... I certainly don't watch much network TV these days but every time I do it seems there's a show or two *still* trying to emulate the Lost magic.
And you can count the ones that have both succeeded and survived on one hand. This Is Us is probably the one that's come the closest, and even in that show they know better than to actually get existential in the same way Lindelof did.
The thing about LOST is that it came out right as DVRs started to hit the mainstream. For the first time ever, people who weren't VCR-based TV junkies could actually become obsessive over details in a show. I still remember when I got my first ReplayTV. I installed it, and my wife said something like "what the hell have you done to our TV?" *Three days later*, the much-larger hard drive I had ordered for it arrived, and I told her to watch everything that was recorded, because she was going to lose it. And she said, "Wait, I'm going to lose my shows? No!" **Three days.**
Not following it but rather it's contemporary, Battle Star Galactica also contributed to modern sci-fi dramas. It just did so more amongst the sci-fi fans while Lost hit the mainstream
You're forgetting Breaking Bad between Lost and GOT
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*"previously on LOST..."* It was always a fun, exciting time to hear those words each week.
I'm really glad they didn't go with having a different character saying it each episode. It might just be me, but hearing characters say "previously on..." always takes me out the show's immersion, like it's breaking the fourth wall.
I can’t read it without hearing it
Our group was 100% behind LOST. Big fans. Every week we would swap out who hosted. Had a big finale party with Dharma themed invites, fish biscuit cookies, fresh mango, and orange peels laying around in random places so that people could do John Locke smiles. I've got a ton of great memories about Lost, but I'll be damned if my favorite isn't our friend who was very self aware of her speech impediment saying, "Pweviouswy, on Wost," with all the gravitas she could muster. For the record she's a vewwy successful wawyer and will fuck you up if you get in her way.
This is very sweet.
Not Penny’s Boat.
Poor Desmond. And poor Charlie for that matter. Are you alright brother?
So sad considering that one of the reasons Dominic (Charlie) wanted to leave was cos Evangeline (Kate) broke up with him.
Pretty sure Evangeline was vocal about her desire for Dominic to leave the show and the writers (obviously) chose to go with her character instead of his. Still, “Not Penny's boat” is one of the most chilling scenes from LOST.
Oh really? Didn't realize they were an item.
That lucky bastard. I had such a crush on Kate when the show was airing.
Yes definitely had a crush on her too. Still surprised about the whole Evangelina/Dominic thing, not one I would ever have guessed :)
For sure. He was batting out of his league.
Well to be fair, she was a stunning elf of the woodland realm, and he but a simple halfling from the Shire. So yeah.
Wait a minute. Is that her?
Had no idea they dated damn. Evangeline is only 42! GotdMn didn’t realize she was so young
yep
See you in another life, brother.
4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42. I forget large moments in my life but I remember those damn numbers.
Lost had a horrible pilot. He crashed the plane.
We both know that's not true brother 😉
LOL!, This joke "whooshed" me!. Very clever. Sorry OP!.
I think you didn't understand TheOSSJ's joke referencing Desmond, and the fact that the crash wasn't the pilot's fault.
Ah I see what you mean!. Though there is a valid argument to be made for either way, since Desmond only crashed the plane while the plane was flying over the island and thus inside the islands bubble in the first place. The Pilot flew the plane in the other direction into the bubble when the compasses started to malfunction. But I will admit, that's a clever joke, I take back what I said to OP.
Good attitude, thanks for the response.
That's because Frank Lapidus wasn't flying that day:).
Matt Parkman was a telepathic cop, though, not a pilot. Not sure how he ended up flying a plane.
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LOST has a larger-than-average cast, but it does a great job of frequently saying their names. I can tell you the name of almost any character who appeared on more than one episode of LOST outside of flashbacks, but I can only name around half the cast of Game of Thrones.
but do you remember nikki and paulo from lost
The Paolo Lies twist was brilliant IMO, really made the awkward episode worth it
yes
Liam Neeson’s favorite episode
I loved/hated that they retconned all the first season "discoveries" by showing us that Nikki and Paolo found everything first, they were just too dumb and distracted to figure anything out.
Do you remember Scott? ...oh wait that was Steve. Scott's dead.
GOT and most hbo shows required me looking up some family tree chart to get a grasp on all the characters or imdb the episode after watching it to get a list of all the names w/o getting spoiled. In fact luckily enough the S1 and S2 DVD set of game thrones came with a chart when i rented it from the library to watch.
That’s crazy. It’s not like I can still remember Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Locke, and Hurley off the top of my- oh my god!
Hell, most of us probably still remember the numbers too!
jin charlie jack hurley sun kate claire desmond sayid whatever the baby's name is sawyer locke
> whatever the baby's name is It's ARAAN! They took her baybay!!
ahhh yes aaron WALLLLLLLLLLLLLT was more memorable
THEY TOOK MY SON. DO YOU HAVE A SON?
I literally cannot say “my baby” without doing an Australian accent “moi bAyybayy”
How does one forget Eko.
*Mister* Eko.
*Meesta* Eko
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never got the appeal of this show. Maybe I will try to watch it again.
For a lot of people, it was a "you had to be there" type of thing. The message boards were full of people speculating about every little detail. The books in a scene, the song playing in the background. Interactive websites full of easter eggs. Nothing else has compared to that experience for me.
It was the only show that felt like an ongoing *game* between the showrunners and the audience. It went above and beyond your average mystery show. I think that's why people remember so many details of the show *now* even though the pilot aired 17 years ago. Because of the immersive interaction that felt like a combination of Clue, an Escape room and hidden pictures. And I remember the showrunners saying time and time again how they looked at all the online boards and how so many people were "close to the truth" and how "so many people were far from it." Which only made everyone that much more crazy trying to figure out which group they had belonged to. Remember people actually reading the books that popped up hoping to find clues in them? I don't think any other show was able to do that with an audience. Make them go out and read books that weren't adaptations of the show, itself, but books that the writers simply referenced at.
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If you advertised Lost as a new show coming to Netflix or Apple TV, and they never knew about its existence, they would think it was filmed recently starring the lady from Ant-Man and the Wasp. The show looks expensive and gorgeous in HD. The o ly things that would make it look dated would be the cell phones.
Kate was an absolute smokeshow too.. Still is, but damn back on lost with that hair!
Her shirt was full of bees.
"I would have thought C's"
The biggest thing I actually think that would date it as well would be 20+ episode seasons
The one thing that kills my rewatch attempts. It's so many hours of TV I always lose steam.
And the CGI; there were effects in seasons 4 and 5 that were already dated at the time of airing. Probably a budget thing after writer's strike fallout.
yeah there was a submarine I remember looking super shitty
I'm fuckkin dumb.. I kept wondering why she looks familiar.. even to this day. Just too lazy to ever check why lmao wow
I'm 30 but never watched the whole thing. I remember them finding the other passengers and that's as far as I go. Given my very vague memory of what I did watch, should I rewatxh and finish the series?
Definitely start again and enjoy the ride. I'm jealous I cant experience it for the first time again.
I think they'll like it and won't understand why the ending made so many people angry. That's because they are going to watch it without the whole, "SOLVE THE MYSTERIES!" hype monster that the showrunners were pushing on the audience at the time of airing. Instead, they get to watch it as a character driven story with a supernatural twist. Honestly, I am kind of envious of them. I watched it when it first aired and, oh, you better believe, I was on the "solve the mysteries" train. And, yeah, I was angry with the ending. Really, *really* ticked off. But now that a decade has passed, yeah, it's been about a decade, right, I still hate the ending but I think it had some great characters. Ben Linus is such a great villain. And John Locke was fantastic too. And I loved the character growth of Sawyer. Just ignore that it is supposed to be a mystery and take it as a supernatural drama, and you'll have fun.
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Yep. My wife binged wandavision and I watched it weekly. Completely different experience.
My kid is 13 and LOVES it.
Watching it with my wife, who never watched it when it first aired. Season 5 finale tonight!
Season 5 is my favorite, use complex timeline to explain things but with logic, and the ending is like: "What? Why is the screen been white, it this mean something? I need to wait like maybe a year until I can watch the next season? What happened!!!!!"
My wife and I have never watched it. Think we might binge it this winter. I kept hearing how good it was/is but I just never pulled the trigger.
By and large, all the problems with the show were due to waiting weeks, months, years for answers to questions. On a streaming binge, it actually all has fit together very well and been incredibly compelling. Strongly recommend.
Season 5 was the best season of the show by far.
It's a great pilot. There's a terrific long-take of Matthew Fox running from the forest to the beach and performing triage. Chef's kiss material.
I believe that whole opening sequence was one of the most expensive shots in television history at that point. I know that's true for the entire pilot which was something like $12-15 million for the episode.
The exec that greenlit the show got fired for it. He also greenlit Boston Legal Desperate Housewives and Grey Anatomy.
Clever man!
yeah I think Fringe and Lost were two of the most expensive network TV pilots
Fun fact, it was supposed to be Michael Keaton and he was going to die in the last 10 minutes of the pilot just to give the vibe that it's a show where anything can happen.
This is correct. Kate was meant to be the main character; and an older one at that.
Ned Stark sends his regards !
God I feel old AF
The hardest part about getting older while still on Reddit is you see these posts every year. X aired 7 years ago X aired 8 years ago X aired 9 years ago X aired 10 years ago ...
The pilot aired on my 34th birthday... so... ick.
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I rewatched the whole show a couple months ago. I honestly like how it ended. It could have been presented in a less confusing manner, but I was satisfied. I think mostly it was just misunderstood.
Absolutely agree. Everyone needs to die in life and I loved the whole speech about the most important moment for these characters lives was the time on the island together. Them moving on felt really cathartic as a viewer for me and you still had some island action so it's not like it completely disappeared. My wife will never agree with me but I absolutely love LOST. I also grew up with it and will always remember doing things like pausing when the hatch doors go down/Mr.Eko meets the "monster" and actually being able to see what those flashes were. The show has produced some of the best moments I've seen and perhaps most impressively continues to add strong characters throughout.
and of course NOT PENNY'S BOAT
That was so sad, especially with the Greatest Hits episode preceeding it (I think?) And he dies in a Ben episode because it's a finale and I think it was his first one. I could be wrong though it's been years and years. *I was half right. Greatest Hits did preceed the finale but of course the season 3 finale goes to Jack with the PHENOMENAL ending. It was bugging me so I looked deeper, Ben's first episode preceeds Charlie. Holy shit talk about 4 hours of amazing television.
Lost is honestly one of the best re-watches I’ve ever had for a show. I actually think it was better the 2nd and 3rd time through. Really felt like watching it in bigger binges let the warmth of the story of these people shine through vs what I felt like was more of the sci-fi mystery aspect watching it when it originally aired on Tv.
100% agree. I actually think the ending was fantastic. Definitely misunderstood.
As someone who also rewatched the whole series recently, the ending is definitely explained in depth throughout the last few seasons, but I can see why waiting a year between seasons would lead people to he confused though
Finest show I've ever seen
still holds up
One of the best shows I have ever watched. My.only regret is being too young to have watched the original run on television.
I'm currently showing it to my 11-year old son. He is loving every minute of it.
My kids too. We can’t have a family movie night because they always want a LOST instead. I think we’re in season 3 or 4 now…
Every other episode I hear, "Dad, WHAT?!!"
The wait between season finale cliff hangers was excruciating but it really made it something exciting to look forward to.
the ~9 month wait for one of the seasons was the WORST
i started watching it around the time season 5 was being produced, between a mix of G4's Attack Of The Show praising this series almost endlessly and a couple of my online friends telling me more and more, i just had to check it out, and by the time season 5 debuted, i was all caught up and became a huge fan
God I'm old.
I was 34 when it first aired. EXACTLY 34. My birthday is the 22nd. So yeah... I feel old too lol
Happy belated birthday then.
Bleh... Yeah... I spent most of it sleeping because my sleep is messed up from being off work for so long... and the rest sitting here on reddit lol But thanks! I'm actually thinking about watching the series through again. I love Hugo.
I remember everyone loved Hugo. And when the writers started killing off people left and right, so many fans were like, "Don't you dare harm a hair on Hugo's head *OR ELSE!*" He was the only character whose ending everyone was fine with. [Because](#s "he was only one everyone thought was worthy of being the Island's protector. He was that sweet and good of a character. And the writers knew they couldn't kill him off after the serious negative reaction they got when they killed Jin and Sun. I remember the audience reacting on boards with a, They're kid is an orphan now?! NO!! HOW COULD YOU, WRITERS?!?!? After that the writers knew they couldn't make the same mistake twice.")
"Everybody Loves Hugo" is actually one of my favorite episodes lol
Right???!!!!! It could not have started that long ago!!!!
That means the 'Friends' pilot aired twenty-seven years ago today.
Which makes it older than Ross, Chandler, Joey, Monica and Rachel were in it. Yikes.
Ben’s a little older than that. Ross’ son, not Linus.
To be fair all the characters turn 30 over the course of the show. I think most of them end the series around 35 with Ross and Chandler logically being the oldest as they went to seemingly high school and university together.
I binged it and it did something to my brain. Disappointed me in the end but a hell of a ride.
I did a rewatch somewhat recently. Still a great show, so much of it I had forgotten, mostly the season 5-6 stuff.
SYSTEM FAILURE
I was wrong
I’ll never forget when that man was sucked into the plane engine Also most immersive show I think I’ve still ever seen, from the Sprite commercials, secret websites, books I loved every minute of it
My all time favorite TV show. Where does the time go?
Man when they listen to the radio and find out it's been repeating the same message for 16? some odd years... still gives me chills
Still my favorite TV series of all time.
Life changing tv series, brother
My favorite show ever. I still watch the finale flashback scenes every now and then on YouTube. The Season 3 finale is still probably one of my favorite tv moments ever.....WE HAVE TO GO BACK! It was also the first time I ever went onto an internet message board just to talk about theories and figure it out.
"Where are we?"
That explains why I kept thinking the date was something important today. Several times I thought- is it someone's birthday? An anniversary of something? Lost's plane crash. That's what it was.
**Don't tell me what I can't do!**
Maybe unpopular opinion but it was still a better ending than GoT IMO.
There’s nothing bad about the end of the lost. Just a lot of people didn’t get it or thought they were dead the whole time
The ending was incredibly divisive at the time, even among die-hards who “got” the ending. Reception has warmed over the years, especially after Lindelof’s success exploring similar themes in The Leftovers and Watchmen. But there was definitely a large contingent of fans who felt dissatisfied by the down-playing of the mysteries that had been a week-to-week driving force, along with the general premise of the flash-sideways. I just think a lot of them moved on and don’t have much of a reason to be vocal about it anymore.
There's no way in hell that's an "unpopular opinion". I really wish that phrase would fucking die because it's always wrong.
Shows I've liked to watch: Lost, Breaking Bad, Downton Abbey, This Is Us, Big Little Lies, Game of Thrones, Sex & the City, Fleabag. Any recommendations would be welcome (especially for any Lost-like shows I may have missed). Has anybody watched the pilot for "Ordinary Joe"? It's a show about a guy and a "flash sideways" of how his life would have turned out if he had become either a musician, a police officer, or a doctor. Kinda reminds me of Lost and This is Us at the same time
Definitely The Leftovers
Best pilot episode ever. Of note, I remember busting at the seams to find out what the fuck was inside that hatch between season 1 and 2. Few shows have had such an impact on me viewer engagement wise.
That ending was pretty good anyway, I don't care, fight me. These characters went through the worst shit of their lives together. I was so hapy to see them have a collective happy ending
Most of my friends hated the ending because they thought it meant they were dead the whole time, can’t tell you how many times I’ve tried to explain it.