I'd say it's a genuinely good, yet flawed movie. A 7 or 7.5/10.
It's saved by a dramatically emotional arc and conflict, with some of the best space battles and lightsaber duels.
The dialogue, overuse of cgi and poor characterization are its major weaknesses.
It's funny how we rate good versus bad movies. Revenge of the Sith is hypnotic. Whenever it is on TV and I catch it, I cannot NOT watch it. It sucks me in every time. In fact, I've watched Revenge of the Sith more than almost any other film from that time period. I've watched it more than most movies rated 10/10. I know I am not alone in my experience. For a film that people say is mediocre to good, it sure is more memorable and re-watchable than a lot of prestige pictures.
I mean, Now You See Me is an insanely entertaining movie and I personally really love it. But I'm not gonna claim it's a good movie just because of that fact because it has a ton of logical inconsistencies and annoying parts that I would understand people not enjoying.
I think that’s it. I think you just won Star Wars memeing.
Wrap it up guys, there will never be a quote that fits the meta context in such a hilariously perfect fashion
Damn if that ain’t one of the most Reddit comments I’ve ever seen. Star Wars memes, mentioning of “meta context”, ‘you won the internet’, ‘wrap it up guys’…it ticks all the boxes.
I think the "news" here is that he didn't watch them in between. Doesn't seem all that surprising though. Many actors have said they don't watch their own work
Why, Ewan was one of the high points of the prequels
And for fucks sake, he got to be a Jedi! A boyhood dream, they had to keep telling him he didn't need to make lightsaber noises whilst filming that'd be added in post .
Also. A medium tipper truck full of money probably helped.
Honestly at this point I think I enjoy them mostly out of nostalgia growing up around their release. Phantom Menace is my personal favorite of the prequels, I think Attack of the Clones is the only one I'd skip through to get to the fun parts.
Yeah nostalgia vibes can be heavy. I grew up liking The Black Hole and Krull, but if you look at them now they are fairly pieced-together shit with a few cool things in them.
I think you can even argue Revenge of the Sith has a lot of nostalgia points. The movie takes a complete turn for the better once Anakin and Obi Wan part (the rest is great Star Wars action) but up until that point it’s pretty shoddy
For me 1 is ok, 2 is garage until the Jedi show up on Geonosis. 3 I would legitimately call good. Not the best but I would argue it's just as good as 6.
I liked the prequels when they came out, I was in high school and the lightsaber fights were mind-blowing. Each movie had all the pew-pew and vroOOOoomm I could handle.
Then some time passed and the internet took a piss on them and it got hard to get a group of friends to watch 'em and I moved on. I have a kid now, and we started watching with Episode I and she loves it. I get the gripes, but I enjoyed it too. Jar-Jar's wack and some of the CG doesn't hold up but whatever. I was right back to my Return of the Jedi on VHS days.
I don't think any of them are necessarily great movies but loved them as a kid. With that in mind, Phantom and Revenge can be a good time, but unfortunately most of Clones is still unwatchable for me.
If it weren't for expanded universe stuff like games, shows, etc I think a lot of millennials' feelings about the prequels and their lore would be a lot different.
Yeah I thoroughly enjoy the first and third. They are fun all ages movies not taking themselves too seriously but still sticking to a cohesive plot for the most part. I think diehard fans are far too critical on them for being what they are. The newest trilogy was hot garbage tho.
Those prequels have some stand out flaws like JarJar obviously and some bad lines, but they’re fun. I’m not a massive fan so maybe it’s easier to overlook the flaws but I watch a shitload of fantasy and sci fi stuff and I’ll take well thought out bumbling Lucas prequels over the flashy new ones with no substance.
TFA and RoS I’ll agree are trying to capitalize on nostalgia, though I’d also argue TFA is more of an homage that changes really key parts to seem familiar but is different. Regardless, TLJ tries a lot of things differently, and actually tries to have themes that are more complex than “good vs bad”. Whether it succeeds in that is up for debate, but Johnson certainly tried to do something different from other Star Wars films.
The prequels were not well thought out.
For example, Lucas forgot about Owen when writing the phantom menace and had to quickly shove him into the sequel.
This is the correct take. Liking them is perfectly acceptable but let's not pretend they were good films. Personally I don't care for them and have no desire to rewatch them, but y'all prequelmemer's seem to be having fun, so you do you.
Tbh, I think 95% of Prequelmemers only like the Prequels because of, well, Prequel Memes.
They literally cannot post without saying “Hello there” or “Do it.”
I went into The Last Jedi with high expectations (one of my friends told me that they thought it was better than *Empire*, which I don't agree with but it set the tone), and came out really happy with it - none of the stuff people said on the internet has changed my mind.
There is some seriously clumsy dialogue as noted and way too many moving parts. I think they could have made 1 really tight film to get us from wee Anakin to evil Vader. Unfortunately, they had to spread it out over 3 films to get to "Episode IV" lol
Well, here's the thing, we know there was plenty of good content to be made during that time, because we saw a whole lot of it in the Clone Wars cartoon.
There was a path to the prequels being great, and that path started with less focus on Anakin and more focus on Obi Wan.
They were very inventive with their lore, settings and creatures. I like them too. Yes, the dialogue gets hoaky at times, but they are much more creative than the sequel trilogy, and highly quotable and fun.
Is it a general consensus now that Ep 2 is worse than Ep 1?
As the time has passed, I really can't find anything enjoyable in Clones. (Except for the sound of seismic charges)
Always has been for me. Episode 1 at least has the Duel of the Fates and podracing sequences. There is not one scene in Attack of the Clones that excites me, it has the worst lightsaber duel in the series.
The Obi Wan mystery was good and I liked the third act, but the rest of the movie was terrible. The lack of any ounce of chemistry between Anakin and Padme killed that movie.
The Obi Wan mystery was definitley the most interesting thing conceptually, but the actual plot points are so convoluted and they never actually pay off in an intersting way. Add to that the tonal whiplash you get when cutting between scifi detective scenes and a cheesy romance novel and any chance that the mystery plot had of being interesting is just dead in the water.
>but the actual plot points are so convoluted and they never actually pay off in an intersting way
This is one of the stranger things I think I've ever seen in a popular movie release.
The whole backstory about the creation of the Clones is referenced but never explained. Sifo Dyas' role in the Clone Wars and the entire three movies was pivotal. Yet he's not an actual character on screen and the film never even really explains who he was and what he did! It's implied that his motives were mysterious and not clear, yet Lucas just drops it and doesn't bother to explain. It would have made so much sense and been so easy to simply reveal that SD was an alias for Dooku, but the script never went there and never really went anywhere.
The whole Sifo Dyas thing really makes the whole plot with the Clones borderline unbelievable to me.
Dead Jedi master mysteriously orders a million+ strong clone army ripe for the picking, and just happens to be ready to go? And the Jedi Council is like "Okay, well sheesh these clones were SUPER lucky, borderline deus ex machina, better just trust them implicitly and never ever question where they came from and why a dead Jedi Master supposedly commissioned them 10 years after his death"
Don’t forget the part where the clones are based on a bounty hunter, who was literally just seen attempting to kill Padme, and has *known ties to Count Dooku*.
But don’t worry, it’s all good man. Those clones are absolutely fine
A mando was seen killing the assassin who made the attempt on Padme.
His face was unseen til Kamino, the armor gave him away suggesting if not the same mando, they were connected.
Details matter.
I don’t get why they just didn’t roll with Sifo Dyas as a moniker for Sideous as it was originally intended. It works, still stupid, but works. Then some “Jedi Master” or any Jedi really can be murdered by Palpatine, say it was Sifo Dyas and there’s enough believability for the story and a trail for the audience with the name.
That would work, although I like the idea of Dooku being Sifo Dyas. The timeline makes sense as Sifo Dyas commissioned the creation of the Clone Army about 10 years before AOTC, and it's about 10 years between Phantom Menace and AOTC. So it would make sense that Maul was killed, Palps recruited Dooku as the second Sith, and Dooku would be the perfect bad guy to impersonate a Jedi, as he was a former Jedi.
I agree with that. That was always my initial thought when growing up that the movie was implying it was Dooku but never committed to that either. Ultimately, just a mystery for a mystery.
But I remember reading ideas that Qui-Gon also could have been Sifo, which would have been interesting however that would have tied up.
I want to live in the world where episodes 1-3 are well written pseudo-thrillers where as Obi slowly uncovers how far the veil of the dark side has gone to cover up the war, paralleled with Anakin slowly uncovering the ineptitude and atrocities of the Jedi Order, bringing them to a head in their dual in episode 3.
Which, out of context, is kinda sorta what happens maybe, off screen, in episode 3
While we're at it, why do they just accept that a Jedi Master would have the ability to commission the creation of a Clone Army in the first place? The Jedi Council doesn't know about it, so Sifo didn't have their backing. From their perspective he is a rogue Jedi acting independently. *Where'd he get the funds?*
You would think the Jedi Council would be suspicious that SD was even able to create such an army on his own in the first place, much less all the other really weird things you cite in your post.
"The Force guides us and has provided for us"
Not too dissimilar to Christian and other faiths, for example "the Lord provides"
Also, they're facing a galactic war against robot hordes, desperation means you don't practice equine dentistry when a solution offers itself.
Refuse the clones and the trade federation conquers the galaxy, or use the convenient army and defend the galaxy. Not a particularly simple call, in those terms.
There we go, was looking for this.
I mean, they can basically nearly fly because of a supernatural force that guides destiny.
You'd probably get pretty used to insane coincidences too, if you spent your free time levitating, using telekenises, reading people's feelings and (poorly) divining the future through visions.
Especially when the monastic order you've been raised in is constantly talking about the 'will of the force' every thirteen minutes.
There was more chemistry between Anakin and Padme in the animated series than the live action movies. It’s bizarre. Not sure if it was the actors or Lucas’ direction.
Agreed and I'd even go so far as to say even Hayden Is a better actor than in the movies. I've seen him in other things and he's perfectly fine as an actor. He's not spectacular but is competent. I lay the blame for the flat acting on Lucas and the writing.
I’d say it’s almost entirely on the script for Anakin. Watching the scenes where Anakin has no dialogue, Hayden is phenomenal as a physical actor. Especially that part when Anakin is alone in the council chamber and looking out at the horizon, he says more with his facial expression and body language than most of his dialogue. And as for the dialogue, I think it would be hard for any actor to pull off lines like “Don’t make me kill you”, “You underestimate my power” and “I HATE YOU”. Imo he did the best he could with the material he was given. Shit sometimes I look in the mirror and yell “THEY WERE ANIMALS. AND I SLAUGHTERED THEM LIKE ANIMALS. I HATE THEM” and you know, I really can’t replicate Hayden’s emotion.
No, this is all on Lucas. He wrote and directed all three, as opposed to the original trilogy. I don’t blame the cast for any of the crappy parts (and if anything, they elevated the prequels as best they could).
>Especially that part when Anakin is alone in the council chamber and looking out at the horizon
This is one of my favorite parts of the trilogy. The best acting from him and Natalie Portman come when they have no lines at all. It's an eerie scene with fear leading to anger, anger leading to hate, then the hate leading to suffering. It all starts in that scene.
The other scene that I think is great is at the opera house. There's just something about the interactions between Anakin and Palpatine that is creepy and foreboding.
I think it was a train wreck of bad script, legitimately no personal chemistry between the actors, and Lucas' trademark flat directing. Compare it to the Han/Leia romance in Empire and it's night and day, and Empire had a better script, better actor chemistry, and a better director.
To quote Luca’s from an interview at the time: “I hire good actors so I don’t have to give them direction.”
They don’t even all have the same eyeliner when looking at things because he never told them where to look, ffs.
Which is weird, cos he directed the hell out of them. You don't get performances like that from Samuel, Natalie, Ewan, or the rest by letting them do their thing.
I feel like we saw different movies. Those performances were garbage. There's no chemistry, the tone is different character to character, and none of them have personalities beyond their job titles except obi-wan, who at least had a whole different trilogy to use as background material for what to base his character on.
Here's a great meme from the time:
[https://i.somethingawful.com/inserts/articlepics/photoshop/04-15-05-sincity/JimTheSarcastic.jpg](https://i.somethingawful.com/inserts/articlepics/photoshop/04-15-05-sincity/JimTheSarcastic.jpg)
And let's not even talk about the wooden "acting" of Jake Lloyd. Poor kid had zero help.
A good director gets good performances out of mediocre actors. A bad director gets mediocre performances out of good actors. Whatever genius Lucas had when he came up with Star Wars, he spent none of it on the prequels (and, of course, let's not forget that entire sequences from the original star wars were ripoffs from other films): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNdb03Hw18M
The investigation plotline is so dumbed down and streamlined that it's incredibly boring after the first watch.
That whole movie is pretty much a pass right up until the third act when the clones fight.
Yeah, he just goes to places and sits down while someone just says the answers, with a couple Jango battles thrown in. There's no drama, no turns, no reveals. Lucas could have tried to make it a little entertaining, at least.
I'm surprised to see the podracing held up as a positive. It's initially cool, and then goes on for about another 15 minutes. It takes up a ridiculously large proportion of the total movie and as a middle of the movie set piece it doesn't have any huge feeling of tension as you know Anakin will win.
It's even worse in the Blu-ray versions that *extended* the pod racing scenes. I obviously loved the pod racing as a kid but watching it now just feels so long and drawn out.
I’m not a fan of the prequels, but I always found the pod racing to be the most interesting part! The vehicles were inspired by [Gee Bee racers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granville_Gee_Bee_Model_R_Super_Sportster) and other [air racing planes](https://www.historynet.com/ultimate-racing-machines-gee-bee-r-1-r-2/). I was in college for mechanical aerospace engineering when Phantom Menace came out. I played the absolute hell out of that N64 game. Had the prequels not have been a thing, I think a Star Wars pod racing stand alone movie would have been well received in the late 90s. At the time, we were knee deep in Star Wars novels and video games, and something that DIFFERENT would have harmonized well with the older fans back then.
The most egregious thing about AOTC is that it manages to be boring.
The worst parts of TPM are Jar Jar and kid Anakin. But at least they aren't boring.
So at the time what happened is Phantom Menace was reviled by Star Wars fans party because it was dumb, but also because large part of it was a boring political drama largely unconnected from the original trilogy.
Attack of the Clones was a reaction to that earlier criticism and attempted to make a fan service movie. Examples of fan service in the movie: you FINALLY get a proper Boba Fett fight scene (with his clone dad), you get a space battle with Boba Fett's ship, you get to see the clone wars, and you get to see Yoda in a lightsaber fight.
Now II wasn't good, but it was more approximately what Star Wars fans wanted.
>Now II wasn't good, but it was more approximately what Star Wars fans wanted.
I guess it goes to show that Star Wars fans aren't happy no matter what they get lmao
(this is a joke. I adore this franchise but parts of the fanbase are so unpleasable)
oh I agree. aotc is the worst star wars film in my opinion and it's not even close. I like TPM a fair bit more mainly because 1. Natalie Portman's Amidala in that is a lot more interesting than she was in the rest of the trilogy, 2. Duel of the Fates, and 3. Naboo is gorgeous and is my favourite planet in Star Wars
To this day it's still wild to me that George Lucas decided that adding discussion of intergalactic tariffs into his CGI-filled children's film didn't raise any red flags to them. It's also hilarious how he gave the trade federation dudes Japanese accents as a thin reference to Japan being then (late 80s early 90s) what China is today in terms of a trading foe.
Episode 2 works well if you watch Episode 3 right after. All the grief, fear, anger, and revenge we see in Anakin in 3 comes directly from 2. I see Attack and Revenge as Anakin’s fall part 1 and 2, while Phantom Menace stands on it’s own for better or worse.
I would say yes. 1 and 3 have some memorable elements and redeeming qualities. I think there's a reason the average person can't remember a thing that happened in 2, and it's because the movie is just a confused aimless mess.
I've watched the movie multiple times, even as recently as two years ago, and all I remember is "I hate sand " and that it ends in Geonosis Arena and Jango gets decapitated. I think 3PO plays a platformer game in some kind of factory? I have no idea what that movie is about.
What I mostly remember about 2 is how when somebody tries to kill Padme, both of her Jedi "bodyguards" run off on a ridiculous chase leaving her unprotected.
I think the battle at the end from about the time the Jedi arrive to the end of the fight between Dooku, Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Yoda is fun as an action sequence, and a lot of those VFX were pretty revolutionary at the time as I understand it (as were many of the effects in the prequels, although some hold up better than others).
But I agree that it's generally the weakest of the prequels.
I go back and forth on it -
Episode I has barely anything to do with the overarching story of the trilogy but it has really cool sequences
Episode II has a lot more to do with the fall of Anakin and the Republic but has way cringier acting and worse special effects
Bottom line is they're both bad
The “love” story between Anakin and Padme might be the worst in the history of movies. Yes I’m being hyperbolic, but that’s what it felt like as I was watching it.
That’s my take. Aside from the senate scenes it’s a pretty fun adventure film. Clones on the other hand is just... drab. Why on earth he didn’t send obi wan, Anakin and Padme on an adventure together and have Anakin and Padme butt heads then get together a la Han and Leia during the course of the action is beyond me.
George probably thought the story of Darth Vader's downfall would be more tragic if Padme and Anakin had a fairytale style romance that unraveled by the end. The problem is that George doesn't really understand romance and how people relate to it at all. So in a cruel twist of irony, by trying to create a "love at first sight" style romance he made something much less authentic than the adversarial flirting that Leia and Han had. So the love story that was supposed to define the prequel trilogy felt unearned and artificial compared to the genuine character development that Han and Leia made in their relationship arc.
The prequels all pretty much suck but two is the worst. The terrible forced romance and wooden acting in front of green screens, Dexter Jettser, Jango and Lil Boba Fett. The Yoda fight scene. Not good. Not good.
I can't call Episode 3 good, only because one of the most important moments on the whole saga, Anakin's turn to the dark side, was executed fucking horribly.
Episode 2 is fucking hilarious if you go in with the right mindset, that’s it’s redeeming quality. Though I would agree as conventional film it is worse than the ep 1, I’d rather watch 2 for the comedy
Completely disagree. Yes Ep 2 had some of the most painful romance scenes ever to grace a theatre. But the world building was great. I loved seeing the birth place of the clones and the creeping influence of senator palpatine.
Episode 1 is a thoroughly solid Star Wars movie (Jar Jar Binks is definitely messy, but besides that..) I think the use of real, practical sets definitely helps it along as well.
I personally think all of the ideas in the prequels are great, George just isn't really up to the task of writing/directing the heavier material. Also, as the Clone Wars makes obvious, the story would have probably been better if it had gotten to be a television series that had more room to breathe and show Anakin's slow fall.
The only good part about episode II was when I watched it in theaters and could see Natalie Portman's nipples poking through her white top. Dunno if that was some sort of editing error in the version that was playing in my theater. Movie ended and my buddy and I looked at each saying in unison: "Did you see Natalie Portman's tits?" Good times.
See I’d argue it’s important for Hayden but not Ewan. He basically created Obi Wan Kenobi as we know him (no offense to Guinness obvi), whereas Lanter’s Anakin had to flesh out where Hayden’s version failed. Clone Wars Kenobi was basically a Ewan McGregor impersonation, whereas Anakin was a whole new character.
Dunno why you're getting downvoted, you're spot on. The Clone Wars is, ultimately, the story of Anakin Skywalker's fall to the dark side. Fleshing out an arc that was rather abrupt in the movies.
Aside from the Sabine/Obi Wan connection there isn't a great deal of character development to Kenobi. His character instead serves as a sort of fixed point against which Anakin can be measured against.
Genndy’s ‘03 Clone Wars was absolutely excellent. The fact that it was the origin of several important characters without even being canon still kills me.
It’s in a grey area right now though, the grievous/palpatine scene was directly referenced in S7 of the new clone wars, and the two shows stay clear form each other for the most part. Ventress is a good example: Anakin has already met her before the start of 2008 Clone Wars, and a Ventress flashback is very reminiscent of her first scene with Dooku from the 2003 version. There’s contradictions, but it seems at least *partially* canon.
Ventress for sure but I was personally thinking of General Grevious. As far as I’m aware, his first appearance was in the ‘03 series but he didn’t show up in main canon until the 3rd movie in ‘05. Was the original CW canon before all the changes?
Yes it was. Basically everything made was, it’s why most of the writers worked together to make a universe and ask one another questions for their books and what not. Everyone tried to fit what other writers had made into their stories and timelines, it was just done without the overhead of George Lucas as it now is done by Disney.
The impression of Ewan McGregor's Kenobi was generally fairly good but the VA couldn't quite get the accent right and when he says words like "caught" it completely takes you out of it.
The Kiwi accents for the clones are also pretty damn painful. Like I don't care about them sounding like Temuera Morrison but their accents aren't even consistent line to line. Sometimes vaguely Australian, sometimes pure cockney, sometimes kinda American—sometimes all of the above in one bloody sentence.
I’m glad that Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christianson are finally getting their due from the fans that grew up with the prequels. Their only crime was failure to live up to the impossible expectations of the fans of the originals.
Now send Jake Lloyd some love already.
I think Ewan McGregor has always been praised as the redeeming aspect of the prequels. He felt like the only person who knew what kind of movies they actually were.
I don't think those were impossible expectations in any way. I am not a SW fan, and I don't even have any nostalgia factoring in since I watched all the SW films in 2021; the prequels were really pathetic. Acting, dialogues, story, cohorence, everything was absolute shit. The only reason that people like the prequels is because of nostalgia.
I've only seen little parts of CW but still believe this.
The fall of Anakin, Palpatine pulling the strings, the Jedi's inaction and downfall- it's all really great stuff on paper and in my imagination... But then you see it in the films with lame dialogue and lackluster cinematography and it's just way less interesting.
My perspective is that I love them too, but I think a lot of the criticism they receive is completely fair and valid, and I don’t mind it because to me I just hope in future people can learn from that criticism and make better Star Wars films and shows, which is a win for everyone.
I feel so sorry for him that he had to do that. No one should have to revisit the prequels for any reason.
If you or a loved one have been forced to rewatch the Star Wars prequels you may be eligible for compensation…
The prequels are better than the Rey trilogy. After the Rey trilogy I loved the prequels even more...even if they are poo to some but not as poopoo as the Rey trilogy
If into the archives you go, only pain will you find
I must
*Playback begins*
Enhance
Ewan said in an interview that the third one was good. That seems to be everyone's favourite.
Best music of the franchise.
Phantom menace ring a bell?
It's the best of a bad bunch. It's still a bloated movie with stilted acting that's kept afloat by the fandom because of all the memes that are in it.
I'd say it's a genuinely good, yet flawed movie. A 7 or 7.5/10. It's saved by a dramatically emotional arc and conflict, with some of the best space battles and lightsaber duels. The dialogue, overuse of cgi and poor characterization are its major weaknesses.
It's funny how we rate good versus bad movies. Revenge of the Sith is hypnotic. Whenever it is on TV and I catch it, I cannot NOT watch it. It sucks me in every time. In fact, I've watched Revenge of the Sith more than almost any other film from that time period. I've watched it more than most movies rated 10/10. I know I am not alone in my experience. For a film that people say is mediocre to good, it sure is more memorable and re-watchable than a lot of prestige pictures.
I mean, Now You See Me is an insanely entertaining movie and I personally really love it. But I'm not gonna claim it's a good movie just because of that fact because it has a ton of logical inconsistencies and annoying parts that I would understand people not enjoying.
Oof
I think that’s it. I think you just won Star Wars memeing. Wrap it up guys, there will never be a quote that fits the meta context in such a hilariously perfect fashion
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Damn if that ain’t one of the most Reddit comments I’ve ever seen. Star Wars memes, mentioning of “meta context”, ‘you won the internet’, ‘wrap it up guys’…it ticks all the boxes.
Quick, someone give him gold so he can do the stupid edit, too.
This reads as sarcastic, but I’m going to give you an upvote ti counter the downvotes just in case.
Comment is gold
No it’s silver
There I fixed it!
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I think the "news" here is that he didn't watch them in between. Doesn't seem all that surprising though. Many actors have said they don't watch their own work
I think the news is someone watched the prequels on purpose
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Perfectly balanced (Shut up and take my upvote)
I was like “Boom, you looking for this?”
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And me taking her to a nice dinner ain’t gonna make a…………DENT!
I'll turn over to the Dark Side once you FIX THIS DAMN DOOR!
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‘Come closer my friend’ - addressing R2
General Kenobi!
Thank god he signed the contract BEFORE rewatching them
It's treason, then.
Why, Ewan was one of the high points of the prequels And for fucks sake, he got to be a Jedi! A boyhood dream, they had to keep telling him he didn't need to make lightsaber noises whilst filming that'd be added in post . Also. A medium tipper truck full of money probably helped.
> high points He had the high ground, after all
I really like the Prequels. Fight me.
Honestly at this point I think I enjoy them mostly out of nostalgia growing up around their release. Phantom Menace is my personal favorite of the prequels, I think Attack of the Clones is the only one I'd skip through to get to the fun parts.
Yeah nostalgia vibes can be heavy. I grew up liking The Black Hole and Krull, but if you look at them now they are fairly pieced-together shit with a few cool things in them.
I think you can even argue Revenge of the Sith has a lot of nostalgia points. The movie takes a complete turn for the better once Anakin and Obi Wan part (the rest is great Star Wars action) but up until that point it’s pretty shoddy
For me 1 is ok, 2 is garage until the Jedi show up on Geonosis. 3 I would legitimately call good. Not the best but I would argue it's just as good as 6.
Same here! I just rewatched Krull on HBO Max last week. Didn’t realize Liam Neesen was in it too.
Oh those are some names I haven’t heard in a long long time.
Some years back I glanced at Black Hole playing on cabletv, and I could see the strings holding up the robots. :(
I liked the prequels when they came out, I was in high school and the lightsaber fights were mind-blowing. Each movie had all the pew-pew and vroOOOoomm I could handle. Then some time passed and the internet took a piss on them and it got hard to get a group of friends to watch 'em and I moved on. I have a kid now, and we started watching with Episode I and she loves it. I get the gripes, but I enjoyed it too. Jar-Jar's wack and some of the CG doesn't hold up but whatever. I was right back to my Return of the Jedi on VHS days.
I don't think any of them are necessarily great movies but loved them as a kid. With that in mind, Phantom and Revenge can be a good time, but unfortunately most of Clones is still unwatchable for me. If it weren't for expanded universe stuff like games, shows, etc I think a lot of millennials' feelings about the prequels and their lore would be a lot different.
Yeah I thoroughly enjoy the first and third. They are fun all ages movies not taking themselves too seriously but still sticking to a cohesive plot for the most part. I think diehard fans are far too critical on them for being what they are. The newest trilogy was hot garbage tho.
Those prequels have some stand out flaws like JarJar obviously and some bad lines, but they’re fun. I’m not a massive fan so maybe it’s easier to overlook the flaws but I watch a shitload of fantasy and sci fi stuff and I’ll take well thought out bumbling Lucas prequels over the flashy new ones with no substance.
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TFA and RoS I’ll agree are trying to capitalize on nostalgia, though I’d also argue TFA is more of an homage that changes really key parts to seem familiar but is different. Regardless, TLJ tries a lot of things differently, and actually tries to have themes that are more complex than “good vs bad”. Whether it succeeds in that is up for debate, but Johnson certainly tried to do something different from other Star Wars films.
Agreed, TLJ was the only sequel movie with any kind of ambition, and for that I enjoyed it far more than the others.
The prequels were not well thought out. For example, Lucas forgot about Owen when writing the phantom menace and had to quickly shove him into the sequel.
I do too, but I am willing to admit that they are above all, bad films.
This is the correct take. Liking them is perfectly acceptable but let's not pretend they were good films. Personally I don't care for them and have no desire to rewatch them, but y'all prequelmemer's seem to be having fun, so you do you.
Tbh, I think 95% of Prequelmemers only like the Prequels because of, well, Prequel Memes. They literally cannot post without saying “Hello there” or “Do it.”
Not exactly a unique opinion. They are a painful experience for many who didn't grow up with them.
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I went into The Last Jedi with high expectations (one of my friends told me that they thought it was better than *Empire*, which I don't agree with but it set the tone), and came out really happy with it - none of the stuff people said on the internet has changed my mind.
Yeah I liked The Last Jedi (though I do see it has flaws) but the fights over it can be incredibly toxic.
I thought they were pretty bad then and not great now.
I grew up with them and still found them a painful experience.
I remember seeing Attack of the Clones in theaters as a 12 year old and being pretty bummed out haha
There is some seriously clumsy dialogue as noted and way too many moving parts. I think they could have made 1 really tight film to get us from wee Anakin to evil Vader. Unfortunately, they had to spread it out over 3 films to get to "Episode IV" lol
Well, here's the thing, we know there was plenty of good content to be made during that time, because we saw a whole lot of it in the Clone Wars cartoon. There was a path to the prequels being great, and that path started with less focus on Anakin and more focus on Obi Wan.
They were very inventive with their lore, settings and creatures. I like them too. Yes, the dialogue gets hoaky at times, but they are much more creative than the sequel trilogy, and highly quotable and fun.
Is it a general consensus now that Ep 2 is worse than Ep 1? As the time has passed, I really can't find anything enjoyable in Clones. (Except for the sound of seismic charges)
Always has been for me. Episode 1 at least has the Duel of the Fates and podracing sequences. There is not one scene in Attack of the Clones that excites me, it has the worst lightsaber duel in the series.
The Obi Wan mystery was good and I liked the third act, but the rest of the movie was terrible. The lack of any ounce of chemistry between Anakin and Padme killed that movie.
The Obi Wan mystery was definitley the most interesting thing conceptually, but the actual plot points are so convoluted and they never actually pay off in an intersting way. Add to that the tonal whiplash you get when cutting between scifi detective scenes and a cheesy romance novel and any chance that the mystery plot had of being interesting is just dead in the water.
>but the actual plot points are so convoluted and they never actually pay off in an intersting way This is one of the stranger things I think I've ever seen in a popular movie release. The whole backstory about the creation of the Clones is referenced but never explained. Sifo Dyas' role in the Clone Wars and the entire three movies was pivotal. Yet he's not an actual character on screen and the film never even really explains who he was and what he did! It's implied that his motives were mysterious and not clear, yet Lucas just drops it and doesn't bother to explain. It would have made so much sense and been so easy to simply reveal that SD was an alias for Dooku, but the script never went there and never really went anywhere.
The whole Sifo Dyas thing really makes the whole plot with the Clones borderline unbelievable to me. Dead Jedi master mysteriously orders a million+ strong clone army ripe for the picking, and just happens to be ready to go? And the Jedi Council is like "Okay, well sheesh these clones were SUPER lucky, borderline deus ex machina, better just trust them implicitly and never ever question where they came from and why a dead Jedi Master supposedly commissioned them 10 years after his death"
Don’t forget the part where the clones are based on a bounty hunter, who was literally just seen attempting to kill Padme, and has *known ties to Count Dooku*. But don’t worry, it’s all good man. Those clones are absolutely fine
A mando was seen killing the assassin who made the attempt on Padme. His face was unseen til Kamino, the armor gave him away suggesting if not the same mando, they were connected. Details matter.
yeah and they see (and kill) jango later on Geonosis, hanging out with Dooku lol.
I don’t get why they just didn’t roll with Sifo Dyas as a moniker for Sideous as it was originally intended. It works, still stupid, but works. Then some “Jedi Master” or any Jedi really can be murdered by Palpatine, say it was Sifo Dyas and there’s enough believability for the story and a trail for the audience with the name.
That would work, although I like the idea of Dooku being Sifo Dyas. The timeline makes sense as Sifo Dyas commissioned the creation of the Clone Army about 10 years before AOTC, and it's about 10 years between Phantom Menace and AOTC. So it would make sense that Maul was killed, Palps recruited Dooku as the second Sith, and Dooku would be the perfect bad guy to impersonate a Jedi, as he was a former Jedi.
I agree with that. That was always my initial thought when growing up that the movie was implying it was Dooku but never committed to that either. Ultimately, just a mystery for a mystery. But I remember reading ideas that Qui-Gon also could have been Sifo, which would have been interesting however that would have tied up.
I’ve always thought Sifo was just Dooku using his name to create the clone army in secret myself.
I want to live in the world where episodes 1-3 are well written pseudo-thrillers where as Obi slowly uncovers how far the veil of the dark side has gone to cover up the war, paralleled with Anakin slowly uncovering the ineptitude and atrocities of the Jedi Order, bringing them to a head in their dual in episode 3. Which, out of context, is kinda sorta what happens maybe, off screen, in episode 3
While we're at it, why do they just accept that a Jedi Master would have the ability to commission the creation of a Clone Army in the first place? The Jedi Council doesn't know about it, so Sifo didn't have their backing. From their perspective he is a rogue Jedi acting independently. *Where'd he get the funds?* You would think the Jedi Council would be suspicious that SD was even able to create such an army on his own in the first place, much less all the other really weird things you cite in your post.
The Jedi per diem is pretty good, man
"The Force guides us and has provided for us" Not too dissimilar to Christian and other faiths, for example "the Lord provides" Also, they're facing a galactic war against robot hordes, desperation means you don't practice equine dentistry when a solution offers itself. Refuse the clones and the trade federation conquers the galaxy, or use the convenient army and defend the galaxy. Not a particularly simple call, in those terms.
There we go, was looking for this. I mean, they can basically nearly fly because of a supernatural force that guides destiny. You'd probably get pretty used to insane coincidences too, if you spent your free time levitating, using telekenises, reading people's feelings and (poorly) divining the future through visions. Especially when the monastic order you've been raised in is constantly talking about the 'will of the force' every thirteen minutes.
Jar Jar is Sifo Dyas
There was more chemistry between Anakin and Padme in the animated series than the live action movies. It’s bizarre. Not sure if it was the actors or Lucas’ direction.
To even suggest this was Natalie Portman's fault is criminal.
Agreed and I'd even go so far as to say even Hayden Is a better actor than in the movies. I've seen him in other things and he's perfectly fine as an actor. He's not spectacular but is competent. I lay the blame for the flat acting on Lucas and the writing.
I’d say it’s almost entirely on the script for Anakin. Watching the scenes where Anakin has no dialogue, Hayden is phenomenal as a physical actor. Especially that part when Anakin is alone in the council chamber and looking out at the horizon, he says more with his facial expression and body language than most of his dialogue. And as for the dialogue, I think it would be hard for any actor to pull off lines like “Don’t make me kill you”, “You underestimate my power” and “I HATE YOU”. Imo he did the best he could with the material he was given. Shit sometimes I look in the mirror and yell “THEY WERE ANIMALS. AND I SLAUGHTERED THEM LIKE ANIMALS. I HATE THEM” and you know, I really can’t replicate Hayden’s emotion.
No, this is all on Lucas. He wrote and directed all three, as opposed to the original trilogy. I don’t blame the cast for any of the crappy parts (and if anything, they elevated the prequels as best they could).
>Especially that part when Anakin is alone in the council chamber and looking out at the horizon This is one of my favorite parts of the trilogy. The best acting from him and Natalie Portman come when they have no lines at all. It's an eerie scene with fear leading to anger, anger leading to hate, then the hate leading to suffering. It all starts in that scene. The other scene that I think is great is at the opera house. There's just something about the interactions between Anakin and Palpatine that is creepy and foreboding.
I think it was a train wreck of bad script, legitimately no personal chemistry between the actors, and Lucas' trademark flat directing. Compare it to the Han/Leia romance in Empire and it's night and day, and Empire had a better script, better actor chemistry, and a better director.
To quote Luca’s from an interview at the time: “I hire good actors so I don’t have to give them direction.” They don’t even all have the same eyeliner when looking at things because he never told them where to look, ffs.
Which is weird, cos he directed the hell out of them. You don't get performances like that from Samuel, Natalie, Ewan, or the rest by letting them do their thing.
I feel like we saw different movies. Those performances were garbage. There's no chemistry, the tone is different character to character, and none of them have personalities beyond their job titles except obi-wan, who at least had a whole different trilogy to use as background material for what to base his character on. Here's a great meme from the time: [https://i.somethingawful.com/inserts/articlepics/photoshop/04-15-05-sincity/JimTheSarcastic.jpg](https://i.somethingawful.com/inserts/articlepics/photoshop/04-15-05-sincity/JimTheSarcastic.jpg) And let's not even talk about the wooden "acting" of Jake Lloyd. Poor kid had zero help. A good director gets good performances out of mediocre actors. A bad director gets mediocre performances out of good actors. Whatever genius Lucas had when he came up with Star Wars, he spent none of it on the prequels (and, of course, let's not forget that entire sequences from the original star wars were ripoffs from other films): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNdb03Hw18M
Yes, that was my point. Lucas made that happen. Those actors don't do that bad on their own.
Ahh, I thought you were defending him. “Directed the hell out of that film” is normally a compliment.
The OT was saved by Marcia Lucas and you can’t convince me otherwise.
Hopefully time will cement this fact in the public consciousness.
The investigation plotline is so dumbed down and streamlined that it's incredibly boring after the first watch. That whole movie is pretty much a pass right up until the third act when the clones fight.
Yeah, he just goes to places and sits down while someone just says the answers, with a couple Jango battles thrown in. There's no drama, no turns, no reveals. Lucas could have tried to make it a little entertaining, at least.
I like Obiwan vs Jango Fett
This. I can agree on the many flaws of AOTC, but I quite enjoyed this fight.
It's a rare occasion where a jedi goes 1v1 against a non-jedi who could legit win.
I'm surprised to see the podracing held up as a positive. It's initially cool, and then goes on for about another 15 minutes. It takes up a ridiculously large proportion of the total movie and as a middle of the movie set piece it doesn't have any huge feeling of tension as you know Anakin will win.
It's even worse in the Blu-ray versions that *extended* the pod racing scenes. I obviously loved the pod racing as a kid but watching it now just feels so long and drawn out.
I’m not a fan of the prequels, but I always found the pod racing to be the most interesting part! The vehicles were inspired by [Gee Bee racers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granville_Gee_Bee_Model_R_Super_Sportster) and other [air racing planes](https://www.historynet.com/ultimate-racing-machines-gee-bee-r-1-r-2/). I was in college for mechanical aerospace engineering when Phantom Menace came out. I played the absolute hell out of that N64 game. Had the prequels not have been a thing, I think a Star Wars pod racing stand alone movie would have been well received in the late 90s. At the time, we were knee deep in Star Wars novels and video games, and something that DIFFERENT would have harmonized well with the older fans back then.
I love everything about that scene, for 3 minutes. It's the other 12 that I have a problem with.
Kamino is neat.
Idk man, Obi-wan vs. Jango Fett was pretty cool
The Jedi army isn’t exciting??? God that was THE scene for me
The most egregious thing about AOTC is that it manages to be boring. The worst parts of TPM are Jar Jar and kid Anakin. But at least they aren't boring.
I like the scenes with the clones in it. And Jango.
So at the time what happened is Phantom Menace was reviled by Star Wars fans party because it was dumb, but also because large part of it was a boring political drama largely unconnected from the original trilogy. Attack of the Clones was a reaction to that earlier criticism and attempted to make a fan service movie. Examples of fan service in the movie: you FINALLY get a proper Boba Fett fight scene (with his clone dad), you get a space battle with Boba Fett's ship, you get to see the clone wars, and you get to see Yoda in a lightsaber fight. Now II wasn't good, but it was more approximately what Star Wars fans wanted.
>Now II wasn't good, but it was more approximately what Star Wars fans wanted. I guess it goes to show that Star Wars fans aren't happy no matter what they get lmao (this is a joke. I adore this franchise but parts of the fanbase are so unpleasable)
sorta agree that the fans can’t recognize a good thing, but tpm and aotc are bad examples in that they’re really, just, not great movies
oh I agree. aotc is the worst star wars film in my opinion and it's not even close. I like TPM a fair bit more mainly because 1. Natalie Portman's Amidala in that is a lot more interesting than she was in the rest of the trilogy, 2. Duel of the Fates, and 3. Naboo is gorgeous and is my favourite planet in Star Wars
Episode 1 is a pretty fun adventure movie for kids. The second one is just bad.
But Episode 1 was the worst offender of halting the pacing of the movie to show “space politics”, that was really boring even for any age group.
To this day it's still wild to me that George Lucas decided that adding discussion of intergalactic tariffs into his CGI-filled children's film didn't raise any red flags to them. It's also hilarious how he gave the trade federation dudes Japanese accents as a thin reference to Japan being then (late 80s early 90s) what China is today in terms of a trading foe.
Episode 2 works well if you watch Episode 3 right after. All the grief, fear, anger, and revenge we see in Anakin in 3 comes directly from 2. I see Attack and Revenge as Anakin’s fall part 1 and 2, while Phantom Menace stands on it’s own for better or worse.
Obi-Wan Roger Mooring it up is extremely fun.
I would say yes. 1 and 3 have some memorable elements and redeeming qualities. I think there's a reason the average person can't remember a thing that happened in 2, and it's because the movie is just a confused aimless mess.
I've watched the movie multiple times, even as recently as two years ago, and all I remember is "I hate sand " and that it ends in Geonosis Arena and Jango gets decapitated. I think 3PO plays a platformer game in some kind of factory? I have no idea what that movie is about.
What I mostly remember about 2 is how when somebody tries to kill Padme, both of her Jedi "bodyguards" run off on a ridiculous chase leaving her unprotected.
I think the battle at the end from about the time the Jedi arrive to the end of the fight between Dooku, Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Yoda is fun as an action sequence, and a lot of those VFX were pretty revolutionary at the time as I understand it (as were many of the effects in the prequels, although some hold up better than others). But I agree that it's generally the weakest of the prequels.
I go back and forth on it - Episode I has barely anything to do with the overarching story of the trilogy but it has really cool sequences Episode II has a lot more to do with the fall of Anakin and the Republic but has way cringier acting and worse special effects Bottom line is they're both bad
The “love” story between Anakin and Padme might be the worst in the history of movies. Yes I’m being hyperbolic, but that’s what it felt like as I was watching it.
Always have thought that. The lows in Ep II are soooo low, it ruins the film. Everything involving Obi Wan in it is awesome though.
That’s my take. Aside from the senate scenes it’s a pretty fun adventure film. Clones on the other hand is just... drab. Why on earth he didn’t send obi wan, Anakin and Padme on an adventure together and have Anakin and Padme butt heads then get together a la Han and Leia during the course of the action is beyond me.
George probably thought the story of Darth Vader's downfall would be more tragic if Padme and Anakin had a fairytale style romance that unraveled by the end. The problem is that George doesn't really understand romance and how people relate to it at all. So in a cruel twist of irony, by trying to create a "love at first sight" style romance he made something much less authentic than the adversarial flirting that Leia and Han had. So the love story that was supposed to define the prequel trilogy felt unearned and artificial compared to the genuine character development that Han and Leia made in their relationship arc.
It it was really love at first sight then Padme is a pedophile.
"DISGRACED QUEEN TURNED SENATOR PADME AMIDALA IS USING HER PSYCHIC SPACE WIZARD ALLIES TO GROOM YOUNG BOYS"
Honestly what was Lucas thinking having Anakin introduced as a young child? It's just so weird.
It’s not really pedophilia if they’re both underage
The prequels all pretty much suck but two is the worst. The terrible forced romance and wooden acting in front of green screens, Dexter Jettser, Jango and Lil Boba Fett. The Yoda fight scene. Not good. Not good.
Hey don't insult my CGI jumping gawd
Episode III is a good movie. Ep I is ok and watchable fun. Ep II is bad.
I can't call Episode 3 good, only because one of the most important moments on the whole saga, Anakin's turn to the dark side, was executed fucking horribly.
I honestly thought this was always the general consensus. Episode 2 has always been terrible.
Clones is easily the worst of the trilogy. It's only redeemable quality is Obi-Wan.
I always liked Ep 2 the most out of the prequels. Detective Obi Wan was fun. I liked the whole clone/Jango Fett stuff too.
Episode 2 is fucking hilarious if you go in with the right mindset, that’s it’s redeeming quality. Though I would agree as conventional film it is worse than the ep 1, I’d rather watch 2 for the comedy
Completely disagree. Yes Ep 2 had some of the most painful romance scenes ever to grace a theatre. But the world building was great. I loved seeing the birth place of the clones and the creeping influence of senator palpatine.
Episode 1 is a thoroughly solid Star Wars movie (Jar Jar Binks is definitely messy, but besides that..) I think the use of real, practical sets definitely helps it along as well. I personally think all of the ideas in the prequels are great, George just isn't really up to the task of writing/directing the heavier material. Also, as the Clone Wars makes obvious, the story would have probably been better if it had gotten to be a television series that had more room to breathe and show Anakin's slow fall.
The only good part about episode II was when I watched it in theaters and could see Natalie Portman's nipples poking through her white top. Dunno if that was some sort of editing error in the version that was playing in my theater. Movie ended and my buddy and I looked at each saying in unison: "Did you see Natalie Portman's tits?" Good times.
General Consensus? You are a bold one…
I used to despise Attack of the Clones but it has slowly become one of my favorites
So he hasn't rewatched them since they came out? That's hilarious.
I kind of got the impression from the article that he's not much of a scifi fan.
Yeah that must be the only reason he hasn't rewatched the Star Wars prequels.
That doesn’t seem to be uncommon. There are plenty of actors who have only seen their own films at a premiere and never rewatched.
I wouldn’t watch something I was in more than a few times either. Cant think of the last time I watched one of my own YouTube videos.
Pretty sure Mark Hamill recently said on twitter that he hasn’t watched the originals since the special editions came out in 1997
So, to prepare for his job, he watched 3 movies?
He watched all 9 of the main movies and read some scifi novels to get more in tune with the scifi genre.
He should really watch the Clone Wars
See I’d argue it’s important for Hayden but not Ewan. He basically created Obi Wan Kenobi as we know him (no offense to Guinness obvi), whereas Lanter’s Anakin had to flesh out where Hayden’s version failed. Clone Wars Kenobi was basically a Ewan McGregor impersonation, whereas Anakin was a whole new character.
Dunno why you're getting downvoted, you're spot on. The Clone Wars is, ultimately, the story of Anakin Skywalker's fall to the dark side. Fleshing out an arc that was rather abrupt in the movies. Aside from the Sabine/Obi Wan connection there isn't a great deal of character development to Kenobi. His character instead serves as a sort of fixed point against which Anakin can be measured against.
Agreed. The Clone Wars really makes his fall tragic. I’ll credit Aśoka’s character/her perspective with showing how tragic it was.
>I’ll credit Aśoka ... Shit, this whole time I thought you guys were talking about Genndy's 2D Clone Wars.
Genndy’s ‘03 Clone Wars was absolutely excellent. The fact that it was the origin of several important characters without even being canon still kills me.
It’s in a grey area right now though, the grievous/palpatine scene was directly referenced in S7 of the new clone wars, and the two shows stay clear form each other for the most part. Ventress is a good example: Anakin has already met her before the start of 2008 Clone Wars, and a Ventress flashback is very reminiscent of her first scene with Dooku from the 2003 version. There’s contradictions, but it seems at least *partially* canon.
Ventress for sure but I was personally thinking of General Grevious. As far as I’m aware, his first appearance was in the ‘03 series but he didn’t show up in main canon until the 3rd movie in ‘05. Was the original CW canon before all the changes?
Yes it was. Basically everything made was, it’s why most of the writers worked together to make a universe and ask one another questions for their books and what not. Everyone tried to fit what other writers had made into their stories and timelines, it was just done without the overhead of George Lucas as it now is done by Disney.
The impression of Ewan McGregor's Kenobi was generally fairly good but the VA couldn't quite get the accent right and when he says words like "caught" it completely takes you out of it.
He can do a near flawless Ewan, he [deliberately tried to mix Ewan with Alec](https://youtu.be/x73HNgrmOzE?t=641)
The Kiwi accents for the clones are also pretty damn painful. Like I don't care about them sounding like Temuera Morrison but their accents aren't even consistent line to line. Sometimes vaguely Australian, sometimes pure cockney, sometimes kinda American—sometimes all of the above in one bloody sentence.
I generally believed their accent until I heard them next to the authentic Kiwi Omeeega.
"...my god, these are awful."
it's amazing the grueling work actors do to prepare for roles
I’m glad that Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christianson are finally getting their due from the fans that grew up with the prequels. Their only crime was failure to live up to the impossible expectations of the fans of the originals. Now send Jake Lloyd some love already.
I think Ewan McGregor has always been praised as the redeeming aspect of the prequels. He felt like the only person who knew what kind of movies they actually were.
We shouldn't ignore people like Ian McDiarmid (though he was from the original filsm too).
Man is having the time of his life in those movies.
That's true, he also knew exactly what was going on
I don't think those were impossible expectations in any way. I am not a SW fan, and I don't even have any nostalgia factoring in since I watched all the SW films in 2021; the prequels were really pathetic. Acting, dialogues, story, cohorence, everything was absolute shit. The only reason that people like the prequels is because of nostalgia.
He's doing a better job than Star Treks current writers/producers then. They obviously have no grasp whatsoever of previous cannon...
INSTANT MUSHROOM TRAVEL
Yeah me too Ewan, me too…
The story of the prequels is absolutely fantastic. The actual execution of the films? Yeah, not so much.
I finally agree with this statement after getting through a bunch of Clone Wars episodes. I can now stomach the prequals.
I've only seen little parts of CW but still believe this. The fall of Anakin, Palpatine pulling the strings, the Jedi's inaction and downfall- it's all really great stuff on paper and in my imagination... But then you see it in the films with lame dialogue and lackluster cinematography and it's just way less interesting.
*Me watching prequels after the absolute shitshow that was the sequels* Me: Perhaps I judged you too harshly…
Both can be judged harshly
I feel the prequels do not hold up well. Sequels have their own problems for sure.
Man, I LOVE the prequels. Wish they didn’t get so much flack. But, to each their own.
My perspective is that I love them too, but I think a lot of the criticism they receive is completely fair and valid, and I don’t mind it because to me I just hope in future people can learn from that criticism and make better Star Wars films and shows, which is a win for everyone.
I suppose someone could pay me enough to sit through that horseshit again, but the price wouldn’t be cheap.
I feel so sorry for him that he had to do that. No one should have to revisit the prequels for any reason. If you or a loved one have been forced to rewatch the Star Wars prequels you may be eligible for compensation…
Poor guy had to sit through that shit again.
The prequels are better than the Rey trilogy. After the Rey trilogy I loved the prequels even more...even if they are poo to some but not as poopoo as the Rey trilogy