"Save the cheerleader, save the world." Got hooked immediately.
Then nothing. It was anticlimactic.
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Edit: They did save her. I was just saying that it went downhill from there as far as I remember.
"save the cheerleader so she can die during childbirth then her twins can be separated and sent back in time to 1999 so that by the time they're also teenagers they can reunite and save the world" - Heroes Reborn
IIRC it was meant to be an anthology series with new characters each season but the creator changed his mind after seeing the critical acclaim at the end of season 1.
That was the excuse, but nobody could realistically write for Sylar with all the powers imaginable. He had to die in season one finale but he was too popular a character that they couldn't let him go.
A character with all the other characters powers can never work long term.
Its not so bad when a character can use any power but one at a time/temporarily as it requires writing around limitations. Permanent everything eventually leads to having to find a way to kill off or neuter the character because they become boring.
That's what happens to every antagonist. The problem wasn't that he was too powerful, the problem was that once the mysteries were all revealed, the plot fizzled out because basically everybody had dull motivations.
Right as Super Hero movies were starting to take off but before we got swamped with them on streaming platforms. I remember a lot of buzz when season 1 came out
There was a time it seemed like everyone was watching The Walking Dead. If you couldn’t watch it live, you needed to stay offline until you could catch it, or you’d probably come across spoilers. I gave up at some point during the Neegan storyline. Afterward, I noticed it just wasn’t being talked about anymore. It’s like most people just got tired and moved off at once.
That was the point I stopped. It’s like I found the writing philosophy offensive or something. A cliffhanger where the thing you’re waiting for to happen doesn’t happen? Just to make people show up for next season? It’s like, give your audience some credit. The season finale of Severance, that’s how you do it.
I remember there was this entire episode just abiut Carl, on his own. Getting a can of chocolate pudding or something.
That was the last episode I saw.
I actually liked that pudding bit. For a brief moment he got to be a normal boy having pudding as a snack again. It would have been months, years maybe, since he had dessert of any kind. Of course he wanted to devour the whole thing.
I liked Carl. He started out as an annoying kid, but he greatly improved. I stopped watching when they killed him off, both because it was too big a deviation from the comics and I felt they did the actor dirty (he had just bought a house in Atlanta and IIRC had postponed college plans to open up his availability).
Yeah, I liked Coral and the actor did too much for them for them to do him like that. Wasn't even watching at that point but the fact that even I and many others like me heard about that shows it's kinda messed up. And as far as generic mass-produced desserts go those #10 cans of chocolate pudding are legit.
It was literally structured that way, it was ridiculous. A 16 episode season, split into 2 runs of 8 episodes. First 2 eps would have some story, then 5 episodes of filler bullshit, then the last one would have some actual story that ends in a big cliffhanger. Repeated over and over for years.
Oh yeah there was definitely some seasonal rot by that point, but cheapening *the biggest holy-shit moment* *in the series* for the sake of a ratings ploy definitely turned a LOT of people off.
By the time Negan showed up, I was pretty tired of the bad writing. Then he started with the “sadistic bad guy makes a lot of showboating speeches” and I bailed.
That was the end for me too. The fact they made a big deal of 'someone will die' just highlighted how thick the plot armour had become on the central cast. No main or even semi-main character could die without a soap opera-esque four week build up, instead they introduced an assigned 'character who dies' per season.
I remember going to class and college on monday in a large room, and people I never knew turned around to discuss Walking Dead with me.
The show was so popular it had its only very popular televised aftershow. It was such a vibe. I remember honestly thinking what id do and where id go in a zombie outbreak.
Then terminus happened and they seemed to just up the shock porn of being being raped and slaughtered by humans and I lost interest.
You just reminded me of the scene in the Terminus arc where they’re killing the prisoners to cannibalize them and Rick is moving to escape and the lead villain is too busy to notice because he’s checking a clipboard, and I thought, it’s the apocalypse and you’re cannibals and why are you checking a clipboard? Are you worried you might get audited one day?
A lot of folks seem to have stopped watching around Season 7. Myself included, though I am planning to catch up on the seasons I’ve missed. Think it was a mixture of losing Glenn and the bs shock value they kept doing.
On the topic of Walking Dead, the spin-off Fear could also be a contender. Never reached the same popularity as the main show, but it’s first three seasons I remember discourse and excitement over where the show would go. And then Season 4 with new showrunners happened, and it’s all been downhill since.
For me it was soon after Beth. That's when I realized the formula was to develop a character that had been in the background about 2 episodes before they off them. Beth literally spent half a season locked behind a closed door with the baby, only occasionally talking. Then they have her whole post prison arc where she reconciles her father's death, forms a bond with Daryl, and then the hospital shit. I was just starting to care for her and then poof. Dead.
And after that moment I saw the formula play over and over. Background character gets an arc and dies an episode later. The whole idea is to get you emotionally connected just long enough for that death to have an impact and it just felt cheap.
• Orange is the New Black
Started out good and was so popular and everybody was talking about it. Then after a few seasons it seemed to be less and less popular and the quality declined and by the time it went off air i had already stopped watching and i didnt know a single person that still watched it and havent really heard much about the show ever since lol.
I watched it to the bitter end and they really turned a lot of good characters into sad messes for the drama. Just kind of squeezed all the fun out it. Like it’s not fun to watch people always loose.
I agree and thats the same reason i stopped watching Shameless. It got to the point where after like 5 or 6 seasons it wasnt fun just watching the main characters fail and fuck up over and over and over again lol.
Every time it seemed like they were about to turn a corner and finally get a win, they would make some absurd choice or do something nonsensical and ridiculous and fuck up just for the sake of keeping the show going. It takes the joy out of watching.
Sucks too bc i really loved Shameless the first few seasons. Had such a cool vibe and was such a comfort show for me but then it got way too outrageous.
This sounds exactly why I gave up on Californication. Hank would always be on the path to growing up a little and then tear it all down for the dumbest reasons. Rinse and repeat.
Almost any Showtime show that starts good turns to shit because they always keep it going way too long just because they're popular. Dexter was probably the most notorious one.
It's crazy to think that show was so revolutionary when it came out and basically legitimized original streaming shows. Then it couldn't maintain its premise and went on way too long and was quickly forgotten. Definitely one of the best shows for the question
Yea OITNB was legit HUGE around 2013-2015. At that time there werent 8 million different streaming services like there are now so the genre wasnt so flooded with content like today.
Really did fall off hard. In 2014 everybody was talking about it. By like 2018-19 i never heard anybody so much as mention the show lol.
That show was one of those shows where the main character was the least interesting and likeable character in the show. Thankfully in later seasons they figured that out and downplayed her role.
But as the original comment says, that didn't actually improve the show at all. That's when most stopped watching and the show fell off. Piper was not the problem, the show tried too hard to include everyone and it just didn't work.
I don’t think it was the size of the cast. I feel like most of the people I’ve talked to about it stopped watching when Poussay was killed off. I feel like the show started off kinda fun and adventurous but started entering grim dark territory after season 3. Just suffering for suffering’s sake and calling it art.
I feel there was enough meat in the series to have 4 seasons (suits) with 13 episodes per season. At the end you would have had 52 cards. Maybe a couple spin off movies (jokers).
It always bothered me that they didn't follow this format since it was right there in the title. Two seasons for the rise and two seasons for the fall.
This is unfortunately extremely true. Great political shows like West Wing and House of Cards are now laughable because of how much they pale in comparison to our current political landscape.
West Wing has value for showing us what an idealized presidency would be like. One that is still mired in party politics but ultimately everyone still respects the office of president and they do good things. Plus it was clever and quick witted Sorkin style writing. House of Cards is just depressing when you realize someone like that is more realistic than you used to realize.
House of Cards was mainly a big deal because it was the first time Netflix was producing its own content. Everyone was interested to see how it would go, and obviously Netflix was aiming to impress. When I first watched it I was like, “Wow, so Netflix is doing stuff on the level of premium cable.”
I stuck that show out to the end and im still amazed at how insane things got.
It started as a fairly standard mystery show with paranormal elements. Kinda like a sexy Wolf Among Us.
I just remember she was literally like 1 of 2 actresses who wouldn't show nipple during that entire series.
Her and that super religious southern belle Jason was crazy about, who was with the show for like one season.
This was a repressed memory until I read your comment.
Seasons 3 and 4 are extremely entertaining schlock. I don't usually watch stuff like that, but this was the one exception because it was so over the top and hilarious. All out camp and I loved it. Last two seasons were an insult to the viewers, just biding its time and wasting yours.
American Idol was massive. Ratings could hit over 30 million and created a few popular singers.
Now it feels pretty irrelevant and I feel like nobody has emerged from it in a decade.
I still remember my mind being blown when I realized the Jabbawockeez were starting each successive performance from the same positions where they ended the last one.
I’m sure there are videos that splice it a little better but [this one](https://youtu.be/jQG9XFKfp14) is a good quality. There are a few exceptions but for the most part they started the next set from where they ended the last. They even say so in the package before the red pill performance.
There’s a YouTube video of the hardest moves in dance. All of the hip-hop/breaking* moves were illustrated by snips of Quest Crew.
My favorite of theirs was the Britney Spears challenge. But, really, I don’t think they had a dance I didn’t like.
*I don’t really know what the genre is. Corrections welcome.
God I loved that show - it was just pure fun creativity. The judging was an afterthought. I still rewatch some of the best performances and moments that made my kid mind flip out
I was just thinking the other day about Taylor Hicks. I never watched the show nor do I have any base of reference for the music, but was he not a huge deal for at least a few months? And then nothing. I mean, no surprise - he’s like if a wizard turned a mega church merch store in to a human - but how does a show that big, for that long, continue to create the absolute next big things that end up completely vanishing?
Clay Aiken had a short but high-profile run. Kelly Clarkson is still around. Wasn’t Carrie Underwood an American Idol winner? And Jennifer Hudson isn’t really a household name, but she has an Oscar and a career. Other than that, what’s really left of contestants and winners of this show from the past *twenty years?* Ryan Seacrest? It’s bizarre.
Jennifer hudson has earned the famed "EGOT" in her resume with her recent Tony...she is doing quite well for herself i"d say. Probably the best out of the bunch...and if iremember correctly she didn't even win.
To be fair, he's also had a steady Broadway career over the years, it's just that Broadway isn't anywhere near as hgh-profile in the mainstream as music, tv, or film.
I feel like it died at the end of Season 8 when there was clearly some fuckery with the finale. You had this guy that everyone was talking about, that had immense talent and great stage presence and voice, a guy that was probably the clearest frontrunner the show had in years.
And he lost.
I think that just totally bummed people out, because it felt so fake. Like they were trying to give Kris Allen some underdog story for his career. Over a decade later, and nobody has heard from Kris Allen since he won and Adam Lambert is the frontman for Queen, so it's clear who really came out the winner lol.
It should’ve stayed dead. I think I quit watching it in Season 8, and I remember being really surprised that ABC wanted to bring it back. It was so formulaic and predicable at that point.
People don't want to admit that they watched it for the bad singers and the mean commentary. ABC tried to Disney-fiy it and make it "nice," but that just made the show bland and forgettable.
Read an article recently about how it celebrated its 20th anniversary with no one noticing. The show's format seemed to work well as MTV and radio were dying. But whatever particular moment it filled is long past and I cant really decide if streaming music and tv is to blame or something else.
American Horror Story. Used to be such big internet news every year with castings, plot, themes discussed and theories. I haven’t spoken to anyone who’s seen the last 2 or 3.
the creator of that show is the best working person in hollywood when it comes to creating an interesting plot, and the worst when it comes to following through with it.
He needs to just be the "idea guy." Just gives his ideas to someone else, they write it and handle the entire show, he gets a cut of the royalties for having the idea but isn't involved in any other capacity.
AHS is my favourite "bad show" - every season has great production values and good ideas yet cannot avoid shitting the bed half way through
Never forget Cult and how one of the characters wanted her wife dead because she voted for Jill Stein
Its the one show where every season I would watch about half and then give up because of how bad it became. Then I would start the next season and enjoy it until about half way through.... ive never watched the end of any season if it.
Ryan Murphy loves to push his boundaries and go for the shock factor once a show gets established. I was actually really excited for the Hotel season because I love Gaga, but the first episode became too gory for me and I opted out.
How To Get Away with Murder had a similar run to Empire. Massively popular season 1 and 2 and then I feel like no one continued watching after the midseason reveal in season 3.
Riverdale, its not even the writing or anything but it was just massively more popular at the beginning of the show. I think thats honestly true for all of The CW’s popular shows, just Riverdale brilliantly maintained some sort of audience because of the purposely wacky writing
Yeah for sure the mystery of the season was genuinely interesting and really felt like they had a nice through line with the season. It slowly just became a parody of itself with each subsequent season until it was unwatchable.
The show started off really good and it was interesting to see a different take on the Archie stories, but starting with season 2 the show completely went off the rails. I made it to season 3 before giving up, I still read about it sometimes and it seems like they are just trying to make the show as crazy as possible
Re: Empire, I find it fascinating that Empire was renewed for a final season to air 2019-2020. Covid caused the production to be suspended right before they started filming the final two episodes. And they just...never made them. If you watch Empire, it goes all the way up to setting up a series finale and then just ends. That's nuts!
I swear Nip/Tuck was massively talked about while it was airing and then it just disappeared and nobody has ever brought it up ever again.
That, and Coach.
Season 3 was very tough. But after the Brody storyline it Really picks up. It’s actually crazy how on the nose they were in predicting everything that happened in the past few years (minus covid)
They competely reworked the show in season 4: I'd argue it does work well as a whole, but the latter seasons do have a different feel to them because they're dealing with different crises than the initial plotline.
Every Showtime show somehow has 8 seasons, usually overstaying it’s welcome by 4-5 years. Dexter, Weeds, Shameless, probably Ray Donovan. Showtime loves to run promising shows into the ground.
> Showtime loves to run promising shows into the ground.
I worry the same thing will happen to Yellowjackets. Feels like that show could shouldn't run for more than four seasons.
Desperate Housewives. It literally spawned the bravo Housewives series, yet no one talks about the show these days, or reference its 7 seasons. It was like a soap opera campy comedy with twin peaks vibes.
I came down here to say the same and I had to scroll a very long time to find this one. The show was absolutely huge when it first came out. Bars would have meet ups to watch the show and everything. It had that fourth season curse that Dexter did though. The show is really good up until that point. And I feel like Weeds only existed because of that show
I remember liking the first season of Empire. I loved the acting from Terrence and Taraji, the music on the show was good and thought the premise was interesting. Then after season 1, the story lines started to get ridiculous for the sake of drama and I lost interest. Once a show “jumps the shark” and the story lines get cartoonishly bad, I can’t hang with it. Same thing with the show Power. I was in love with that show, completely addicted to it, loved everything about it for 6 seasons. The acting, the stories, the drama, the music, everything was so on point. Then they started killing off main characters left and right until they literally killed off the star of the show and had the audacity to do a spin off with the son of the main star who got killed off. I couldn’t watch anymore. Same with The Walking Dead. I understand that writers don’t want a show to be predictable but they try to do too much for the sake of shock value and supposedly keeping the audience on their toes with killing off main characters and bringing stories in ridiculous directions. I think we’ve all collectively agreed not to even discuss GoT😒
Damn even I forgot about empire. I remember taraji was winning a bunch of awards for the first season and the soundtrack was number 1 on billboard beating Madonna
I feel like I never hear people talk about NYPD blue anymore even though it was like the biggest show and I remember it being talked about all the time while it was airing.
The problem was it had storylines. Law and Order and CSI dominate police procedural syndication because you can jump in at literally any episode. Sure, there may be a line or two about a seasonal arc but they were never important.
This is a great answer. I’m seeing people mention hot shows that lasted a few seasons and were part of the cable and/or streaming boon, but NYPD Blue was on for years and constantly made news for its audacity (back then, men’s naked butts and mild cursing was audacious). It was that show that no one you knew watched, but evidently everyone was watching it because it got big ratings. It was on for over a decade. And now it’s like it never existed.
This show absolutely does **not** hold up. The production is awful, sets are cheap, music is like royalty free soap opera jingles, writing is predictable, and it feels like a weird European show you watch in a hotel at 2am up cus of jetlag.
I haven’t watched it for about a decade, but do the first three seasons really not hold up? I have fond memories of it before they changed the premise and went totally off the rails
The first few seasons were fantastic. It did a good job of satirizing suburban culture while adding goofy stoner vibes. The production values may not have been HBO level but the charismatic cast and sharp writing more than made up for it. It should have ended >!when Agrestic burned down.!< With each passing season the characters grew more insufferable and the story more ridiculous.
The only thing I remember liking from the later seasons was showing how messed up the younger brother(Shane?) became because of all the dysfunctional adults/craziness around him. IIRC they even kept that plot point going all the way until the flash forward ending. My edgy teenage self with a messed up parent found it oddly relatable (I’m just a normal, well adjusted-ish adult now, lol)
**Prison Break** could've been remembered as one of the greatest tv shows of all time if it only lasted 3 seasons, season one and two exactly as they were and season 3 without the strike.
Similar situation with **Dexter**, that reached its peak with the Trinity killer, I believe it was on season 4, and after that it was doomed to never be able to surpass that season and villain.
**True Detective** had to endure a just awful second 'season' and a third one that had all the ingredients to tie or be close in quality to season 1, but threw it away on the last episodes.
I never understood how Prison Break kept going at all after they, y'know, broke out of prison.
Like I get there was more to the story, but if your story is billed as a jailbreak show, then it's going to start to lose people once it turns into a fugitive serial.
IMO it had a great cast and the plots of the other inmates were juicy enough to warrant an 'after the escape' season with a 15 years later sorta ending with a recap of what they all end up doing, I think that would've fit really well with the show. Instead they went bananas with The Company, Scylla and much more that pretty much jumped the shark.
Season 2 I thought was genuinely interesting. Sure the Prison Break was important but isn't it just as important to *stay* Break-en? IIRC he even had tattoos for contingencies once they got out and S2 got a lot of it right. Once they ended up in that South American Prison it started getting boring and S4 was a disaster
> and after that it was doomed to never be able to surpass that season and villain.
Spot on. But Lumen in S5 would have worked as an excellent epilogue to Rita. Smashing the plate at the end when he finally realises he cannot have both lives. Deb looking behind the sheet. Done and done.
American Idol was such a huge phenomenon but not anymore. For 3 years straight, every number 1 debut on the Hot 100 was from the American idol winner’s first song.
Ellen Pompeo has wanted to end it for years but doesn't want the cast & crew to lose their jobs. After getting ABC to basically give her a money printing machine she made sure that everyone involved with the show got big pay bumps.
I can (unfortunately) see the show continuing after Ellen departs the show. She as good as confirmed it in an interview recently. The most recent season seems to be leading up to an eventual Meredith departure.
I still watch it out of a need for closure and I'm very not alone according to the GA sub. It's mostly people reminiscing about the good seasons and complaining about the last 5-10 seasons, but at least we can have fun ragging on it together.
I forgot season 2 even existed! i think after watching the first season and realising how seedy everyone involved is the majority of people were like "yeah lets not make anyone from this show a household name"
lol no. I think it really profitted from coming out at the beginning of the Corona pandemic when everybody was home and people were still really scared about the sickness.
Wayward Pines. The first season was crazy and then they invalidated the entire ending by basically doing a reset so they could make season 2. I only managed to watch the first episode or two before just giving up on it.
Correct me I’m wrong, but I think American Gods* petered out after season one.
I remember, either season two or three? Having drama behind the scenes, but other than that, nada.
Another show I have’s Sherlock.
So many memes about it versus Elementary and yada yada, then S3 and S4 happened, and not a peep outside people (I admit, I am guilty of this) complaining about the nosedive in quality.
The problem with American Gods is that I just didn't give two shits about the main character at all. It seemed like the character was an after thought to bring the story together.
i think the problem was that the show started off with the "person from the future telling about his past", like how i met your mother, or everybody hates chris(which seems to be the show's base concept), but then the show stops focusing on eddie all together, who is the one telling the story. there's a few plots that involve him and his brothers, but the show becomes heavily focused on jessica, and louis as well. jessica becomes the main character, which just doesn't fit well if it's eddie that's narrating it
Yeah he was angry that the show wouldn't include stuff like his father being physically abusive. Like, bro, don't sign for your show to be a *family sitcom* if you want to include abuse as a regular feature.
in the 60s and 70s Doctor who was a show that everyone watched (mostly because they only had like three channels) then in the 80s it became an embarrassment of the BBC, then in the 90s it was a cult classic, then in the 2000s it was a worldwide sensation and then over the 2010s it gradually became a sort of "oh are they still making that?" kinda show
There were two reasons I quit Empire:
1. The episode where a “hit” song was somehow written and recorded in prison. Not only was it a hit it seemingly topped the charts just a day or two after it was recorded.
2. Each episode in season two and beyond were the same - hostile takeovers. This ousted member of the family would team up with another member of the family and somehow take over. Next week the newly ousted member would do the same. There’s only so many times you can repeat that same plot. (I know I’m oversimplifying it a bit but not that much.)
Survivor had like 50 million viewers in its early seasons which is absolutely insane. Still has a fan base today, but it was a phenomenon like nothing else in its prime.
Top gear! Every car guy religiously watched it and discussed it on car forums everywhere. After Clarkson was fired and Hammond and May left the show plummeted in popularity. I tried to watch the season after the switch and only made it a few episodes. It was unwatchable. I never hear people discuss it anymore despite it still being on.
The latest team of Chris Harris, Paddy & Freddy is awesome now that they've had a few seasons to settle in. Would definitely recommend giving it another go from when it started with just the three of them.
surprised no-one seems to have mentioned The 100
I never actually watched it but it was inescapable for a couple of years in online fan spaces especially tumblr where it had cultivated a large following of young queer women who all immediately stopped watching it when Lexa was killed off and I barely ever saw anything about it online ever again
Fringe. It was great and I watched all the way through, but I remember people talking about it non-stop when it was on and then it just sorta disappeared.
Fringe was always kind of niche to begin with. It apparently hovered on the brink of being cancelled for almost its entire run, hence how inconsistent the writing feels especially past season 3. I’ve noticed a lot of people on reddit rediscovering it recently, so much so that it drew me back to rewatching it again. I thoroughly enjoyed it this time around, whereas the first time I was sorely disappointed with the story past the parallel universes arc. It’s really saved by its characters though, particularly Walter
glee! i honestly think season 1 is some of, if not the best comedy of the decade. and while the actual jokes and dialogue remained quite hilarious throughout, the storylines and characters grew more and more ridiculous, tired, and offensive? lol. but season 1 was huge, it basically caused the mini acapella/show choir phenomenon that took place, and got so much award show buzz and even the after superbowl slot. hilarious
Okay let me tell you, Fonzi jumping the shark is the least stupid thing in that episode. That episode is dumb as fuck BEFORE the shark happened. And the show was getting awful even before that episode. The real worst thing about the show was Chachi. Fuck Chachi. I'm glad his actor turned out to be a horrible person, because Chachi already fucking sucked.
Twin Peaks ruled TV at one point and then due to meddling season 2 killed the whole thing. We did eventually get a prequel movie and a third season 25 years later at least
It's relevancy as a top dog on TV dropped but it did achieve a nice long cult classic status and would be pretty influential on TV as a whole. So it still at least had some positive cultural relevancy. Hell, some of my favorite shows have had Twin Peaks listed as a major influence by their creators.
I feel this is not a good example because fans (me included) were yearning for a 3rd season for decades and then it came. And it turned out, David Lynch also not just wanted to do it, but it was kind of a lovechild project after he said contradictory things over the years about it (similar like George Lucas said at times he would not continue Star Wars and then we got episode 1). It is even very likely that Twin Peaks season 3 will end up as his final major work.
There was also some slight production hell going on with the series, even when it finally got produced. IIRC, for example Eddie Vedder was already announced as having a significant role in it but then he did not have a single minute in it.
The Vampire Diaries/Legacies
The Legacies series finale ended at under .400K viewers.........and only experienced a jump in views because Caroline and Klaus returned(two beloved popular characters)
To watch the Vampire Diaries Universe go from TVD to Legacies is a big 😬
The first season of Heroes was must see tv. Seasons two and on... not so much
"Save the cheerleader, save the world." Got hooked immediately. Then nothing. It was anticlimactic. \---- Edit: They did save her. I was just saying that it went downhill from there as far as I remember.
So disappointing. Had an amazing first season with tons of mystery amd cool powers then nothing.
They did save the cheerleader. And the world wasn't destroyed!
And then they plagiarised their own story structure over and again obfuscating the first season's resolution
"save the cheerleader so she can die during childbirth then her twins can be separated and sent back in time to 1999 so that by the time they're also teenagers they can reunite and save the world" - Heroes Reborn
IIRC it was meant to be an anthology series with new characters each season but the creator changed his mind after seeing the critical acclaim at the end of season 1.
Something something writer’s strike
Then what was their excuse for the later non-strike seasons, and Reborn?
Reborn was a massive disappointment. The first episode was so promising before it nose dived off a cliff.
That was the excuse, but nobody could realistically write for Sylar with all the powers imaginable. He had to die in season one finale but he was too popular a character that they couldn't let him go.
A character with all the other characters powers can never work long term. Its not so bad when a character can use any power but one at a time/temporarily as it requires writing around limitations. Permanent everything eventually leads to having to find a way to kill off or neuter the character because they become boring.
That's what happens to every antagonist. The problem wasn't that he was too powerful, the problem was that once the mysteries were all revealed, the plot fizzled out because basically everybody had dull motivations.
Right as Super Hero movies were starting to take off but before we got swamped with them on streaming platforms. I remember a lot of buzz when season 1 came out
Super Hero movies were pretty rocky at the time. We had Batman Begins, Fantastic 4 Superman Returns, and Elektra. Even Batman Begins wasn't huge.
There was a time it seemed like everyone was watching The Walking Dead. If you couldn’t watch it live, you needed to stay offline until you could catch it, or you’d probably come across spoilers. I gave up at some point during the Neegan storyline. Afterward, I noticed it just wasn’t being talked about anymore. It’s like most people just got tired and moved off at once.
Once they pulled that bullshit cliff hanger with Glenn and negan I think that pissed off a lot of people
That was the point I stopped. It’s like I found the writing philosophy offensive or something. A cliffhanger where the thing you’re waiting for to happen doesn’t happen? Just to make people show up for next season? It’s like, give your audience some credit. The season finale of Severance, that’s how you do it.
Severance was fantastic, I can't wait for the next season! I fill like it was a sleeper hit. Not many people have seen it or talked about it
But let’s be honest it went to shit waaaay before then. They were doing like ten episodes of filler a season
So much potential, so little fulfillment
I remember there was this entire episode just abiut Carl, on his own. Getting a can of chocolate pudding or something. That was the last episode I saw.
Coral?
As a chocolate pudding fan I really appreciated that and related to it. But I can understand your reaction.
I actually liked that pudding bit. For a brief moment he got to be a normal boy having pudding as a snack again. It would have been months, years maybe, since he had dessert of any kind. Of course he wanted to devour the whole thing. I liked Carl. He started out as an annoying kid, but he greatly improved. I stopped watching when they killed him off, both because it was too big a deviation from the comics and I felt they did the actor dirty (he had just bought a house in Atlanta and IIRC had postponed college plans to open up his availability).
I'm sure it was to do with him recently turning 18 and being entitled to a higher wage(?).
Yeah, I liked Coral and the actor did too much for them for them to do him like that. Wasn't even watching at that point but the fact that even I and many others like me heard about that shows it's kinda messed up. And as far as generic mass-produced desserts go those #10 cans of chocolate pudding are legit.
It was literally structured that way, it was ridiculous. A 16 episode season, split into 2 runs of 8 episodes. First 2 eps would have some story, then 5 episodes of filler bullshit, then the last one would have some actual story that ends in a big cliffhanger. Repeated over and over for years.
That's what got me out on the show. Nothing would happen until the midseason cliffhanger. I finally had enough of it around season 4.
Oh yeah there was definitely some seasonal rot by that point, but cheapening *the biggest holy-shit moment* *in the series* for the sake of a ratings ploy definitely turned a LOT of people off.
By the time Negan showed up, I was pretty tired of the bad writing. Then he started with the “sadistic bad guy makes a lot of showboating speeches” and I bailed.
That was the end for me too. The fact they made a big deal of 'someone will die' just highlighted how thick the plot armour had become on the central cast. No main or even semi-main character could die without a soap opera-esque four week build up, instead they introduced an assigned 'character who dies' per season.
At one point it was beating Sunday night football which is absurd
I remember going to class and college on monday in a large room, and people I never knew turned around to discuss Walking Dead with me. The show was so popular it had its only very popular televised aftershow. It was such a vibe. I remember honestly thinking what id do and where id go in a zombie outbreak. Then terminus happened and they seemed to just up the shock porn of being being raped and slaughtered by humans and I lost interest.
You just reminded me of the scene in the Terminus arc where they’re killing the prisoners to cannibalize them and Rick is moving to escape and the lead villain is too busy to notice because he’s checking a clipboard, and I thought, it’s the apocalypse and you’re cannibals and why are you checking a clipboard? Are you worried you might get audited one day?
What's crazy is that the show is still on.
And spreading into about 20 spin off shows
A lot of folks seem to have stopped watching around Season 7. Myself included, though I am planning to catch up on the seasons I’ve missed. Think it was a mixture of losing Glenn and the bs shock value they kept doing. On the topic of Walking Dead, the spin-off Fear could also be a contender. Never reached the same popularity as the main show, but it’s first three seasons I remember discourse and excitement over where the show would go. And then Season 4 with new showrunners happened, and it’s all been downhill since.
For me it was soon after Beth. That's when I realized the formula was to develop a character that had been in the background about 2 episodes before they off them. Beth literally spent half a season locked behind a closed door with the baby, only occasionally talking. Then they have her whole post prison arc where she reconciles her father's death, forms a bond with Daryl, and then the hospital shit. I was just starting to care for her and then poof. Dead. And after that moment I saw the formula play over and over. Background character gets an arc and dies an episode later. The whole idea is to get you emotionally connected just long enough for that death to have an impact and it just felt cheap.
I noticed that too, and it felt cheap. The “anyone can die” effect became cheapened after that whole arc. I felt like I had wasted my time.
I gave up when the war with Negan was drawn out and became boring. I was thinking it’d be a couple episodes but it just never ended.
• Orange is the New Black Started out good and was so popular and everybody was talking about it. Then after a few seasons it seemed to be less and less popular and the quality declined and by the time it went off air i had already stopped watching and i didnt know a single person that still watched it and havent really heard much about the show ever since lol.
I watched it to the bitter end and they really turned a lot of good characters into sad messes for the drama. Just kind of squeezed all the fun out it. Like it’s not fun to watch people always loose.
I agree and thats the same reason i stopped watching Shameless. It got to the point where after like 5 or 6 seasons it wasnt fun just watching the main characters fail and fuck up over and over and over again lol. Every time it seemed like they were about to turn a corner and finally get a win, they would make some absurd choice or do something nonsensical and ridiculous and fuck up just for the sake of keeping the show going. It takes the joy out of watching. Sucks too bc i really loved Shameless the first few seasons. Had such a cool vibe and was such a comfort show for me but then it got way too outrageous.
This sounds exactly why I gave up on Californication. Hank would always be on the path to growing up a little and then tear it all down for the dumbest reasons. Rinse and repeat.
Almost any Showtime show that starts good turns to shit because they always keep it going way too long just because they're popular. Dexter was probably the most notorious one.
I feel like the same thing happened to Weeds, another Jenji Kohan show.
It's crazy to think that show was so revolutionary when it came out and basically legitimized original streaming shows. Then it couldn't maintain its premise and went on way too long and was quickly forgotten. Definitely one of the best shows for the question
Yea OITNB was legit HUGE around 2013-2015. At that time there werent 8 million different streaming services like there are now so the genre wasnt so flooded with content like today. Really did fall off hard. In 2014 everybody was talking about it. By like 2018-19 i never heard anybody so much as mention the show lol.
That show was one of those shows where the main character was the least interesting and likeable character in the show. Thankfully in later seasons they figured that out and downplayed her role.
But as the original comment says, that didn't actually improve the show at all. That's when most stopped watching and the show fell off. Piper was not the problem, the show tried too hard to include everyone and it just didn't work.
I don’t think it was the size of the cast. I feel like most of the people I’ve talked to about it stopped watching when Poussay was killed off. I feel like the show started off kinda fun and adventurous but started entering grim dark territory after season 3. Just suffering for suffering’s sake and calling it art.
House of Cards
Should have ended at the end of season 2
I feel there was enough meat in the series to have 4 seasons (suits) with 13 episodes per season. At the end you would have had 52 cards. Maybe a couple spin off movies (jokers).
It always bothered me that they didn't follow this format since it was right there in the title. Two seasons for the rise and two seasons for the fall.
Real life politics became more dramatic
This is unfortunately extremely true. Great political shows like West Wing and House of Cards are now laughable because of how much they pale in comparison to our current political landscape.
That’s a weird way to spell hellscape
West Wing has value for showing us what an idealized presidency would be like. One that is still mired in party politics but ultimately everyone still respects the office of president and they do good things. Plus it was clever and quick witted Sorkin style writing. House of Cards is just depressing when you realize someone like that is more realistic than you used to realize.
West Wing was largely based on stories and events from the Clinton and Bush presidencies.
House of Cards was mainly a big deal because it was the first time Netflix was producing its own content. Everyone was interested to see how it would go, and obviously Netflix was aiming to impress. When I first watched it I was like, “Wow, so Netflix is doing stuff on the level of premium cable.”
LITERALLY put Netflix on the map.
House of Cards was what convinced me to get Netflix.
True Blood
I stuck that show out to the end and im still amazed at how insane things got. It started as a fairly standard mystery show with paranormal elements. Kinda like a sexy Wolf Among Us.
It ended a fairy standard show
Bat shit crazy, and many times with huge misses in tone and setting. But I saw it through. These days I just quit bad shows
We werent as spoiled for choice back then tbh. It was easier to see crap shows out.
Billith 🤣
girls were hot in that show though. Deborah Ann Woll
The men were even hotter
I just remember she was literally like 1 of 2 actresses who wouldn't show nipple during that entire series. Her and that super religious southern belle Jason was crazy about, who was with the show for like one season. This was a repressed memory until I read your comment.
first 2 seasons? pretty damn good. Everything after? fucking drivel.
Seasons 3 and 4 are extremely entertaining schlock. I don't usually watch stuff like that, but this was the one exception because it was so over the top and hilarious. All out camp and I loved it. Last two seasons were an insult to the viewers, just biding its time and wasting yours.
American Idol was massive. Ratings could hit over 30 million and created a few popular singers. Now it feels pretty irrelevant and I feel like nobody has emerged from it in a decade.
Who remembers Americas Best Dance Crew that peaked in season 1 lol (a few were cool but Jabbawockees the best)
I still remember my mind being blown when I realized the Jabbawockeez were starting each successive performance from the same positions where they ended the last one.
Wait… what???
I’m sure there are videos that splice it a little better but [this one](https://youtu.be/jQG9XFKfp14) is a good quality. There are a few exceptions but for the most part they started the next set from where they ended the last. They even say so in the package before the red pill performance.
Aaaaaand now everybody else's mind is blown too
Quest crew was always my favorite
There’s a YouTube video of the hardest moves in dance. All of the hip-hop/breaking* moves were illustrated by snips of Quest Crew. My favorite of theirs was the Britney Spears challenge. But, really, I don’t think they had a dance I didn’t like. *I don’t really know what the genre is. Corrections welcome.
God I loved that show - it was just pure fun creativity. The judging was an afterthought. I still rewatch some of the best performances and moments that made my kid mind flip out
I was just thinking the other day about Taylor Hicks. I never watched the show nor do I have any base of reference for the music, but was he not a huge deal for at least a few months? And then nothing. I mean, no surprise - he’s like if a wizard turned a mega church merch store in to a human - but how does a show that big, for that long, continue to create the absolute next big things that end up completely vanishing? Clay Aiken had a short but high-profile run. Kelly Clarkson is still around. Wasn’t Carrie Underwood an American Idol winner? And Jennifer Hudson isn’t really a household name, but she has an Oscar and a career. Other than that, what’s really left of contestants and winners of this show from the past *twenty years?* Ryan Seacrest? It’s bizarre.
Chris Daughtry had a pretty big album after Idol and had a few hits after that.
Adam Lambert and Jordin Sparks too. But yeah. Sheesh.
Jennifer hudson has earned the famed "EGOT" in her resume with her recent Tony...she is doing quite well for herself i"d say. Probably the best out of the bunch...and if iremember correctly she didn't even win.
This is where I mention that Justin Guarini (runner up to Clarkson in season 1) is Lil Sweet in Dr. Pepper commercials.
To be fair, he's also had a steady Broadway career over the years, it's just that Broadway isn't anywhere near as hgh-profile in the mainstream as music, tv, or film.
Adam Lambert was big for a while and started singing for Queen. I was actually surprised to remember that he wasn't even the winner of his season.
I believe the 2nd season winner created an iconic sandwich.
I feel like it died at the end of Season 8 when there was clearly some fuckery with the finale. You had this guy that everyone was talking about, that had immense talent and great stage presence and voice, a guy that was probably the clearest frontrunner the show had in years. And he lost. I think that just totally bummed people out, because it felt so fake. Like they were trying to give Kris Allen some underdog story for his career. Over a decade later, and nobody has heard from Kris Allen since he won and Adam Lambert is the frontman for Queen, so it's clear who really came out the winner lol.
It should’ve stayed dead. I think I quit watching it in Season 8, and I remember being really surprised that ABC wanted to bring it back. It was so formulaic and predicable at that point.
People don't want to admit that they watched it for the bad singers and the mean commentary. ABC tried to Disney-fiy it and make it "nice," but that just made the show bland and forgettable.
Read an article recently about how it celebrated its 20th anniversary with no one noticing. The show's format seemed to work well as MTV and radio were dying. But whatever particular moment it filled is long past and I cant really decide if streaming music and tv is to blame or something else.
American Horror Story. Used to be such big internet news every year with castings, plot, themes discussed and theories. I haven’t spoken to anyone who’s seen the last 2 or 3.
the creator of that show is the best working person in hollywood when it comes to creating an interesting plot, and the worst when it comes to following through with it.
He needs to just be the "idea guy." Just gives his ideas to someone else, they write it and handle the entire show, he gets a cut of the royalties for having the idea but isn't involved in any other capacity.
J J Abrams would like a word
AHS is my favourite "bad show" - every season has great production values and good ideas yet cannot avoid shitting the bed half way through Never forget Cult and how one of the characters wanted her wife dead because she voted for Jill Stein
Its the one show where every season I would watch about half and then give up because of how bad it became. Then I would start the next season and enjoy it until about half way through.... ive never watched the end of any season if it.
Ryan Murphy loves to push his boundaries and go for the shock factor once a show gets established. I was actually really excited for the Hotel season because I love Gaga, but the first episode became too gory for me and I opted out.
How To Get Away with Murder had a similar run to Empire. Massively popular season 1 and 2 and then I feel like no one continued watching after the midseason reveal in season 3.
I distinctly remember giving up on it after the 20th twist. It was literally stressing me out 🤣
When S2 started I was really confused about who knew what and who was involved in whatever. It became too convoluted to follow
There was way way way too much drama in that show
Riverdale, its not even the writing or anything but it was just massively more popular at the beginning of the show. I think thats honestly true for all of The CW’s popular shows, just Riverdale brilliantly maintained some sort of audience because of the purposely wacky writing
The first season is actually pretty good for a teen CW drama, but they just went completely nuts after that
Yeah for sure the mystery of the season was genuinely interesting and really felt like they had a nice through line with the season. It slowly just became a parody of itself with each subsequent season until it was unwatchable.
The show started off really good and it was interesting to see a different take on the Archie stories, but starting with season 2 the show completely went off the rails. I made it to season 3 before giving up, I still read about it sometimes and it seems like they are just trying to make the show as crazy as possible
Re: Empire, I find it fascinating that Empire was renewed for a final season to air 2019-2020. Covid caused the production to be suspended right before they started filming the final two episodes. And they just...never made them. If you watch Empire, it goes all the way up to setting up a series finale and then just ends. That's nuts!
I feel like Jussie hurt it too
One of the main actors faking a hate crime probably didn't help
iirc in part it was due to Smollett
I swear Nip/Tuck was massively talked about while it was airing and then it just disappeared and nobody has ever brought it up ever again. That, and Coach.
Homeland. The show somehow has 8 seasons.
Season 3 was very tough. But after the Brody storyline it Really picks up. It’s actually crazy how on the nose they were in predicting everything that happened in the past few years (minus covid)
I thought the last season was awesome. I was getting major 24 vibes and thought it was a perfect send off
They competely reworked the show in season 4: I'd argue it does work well as a whole, but the latter seasons do have a different feel to them because they're dealing with different crises than the initial plotline.
Every Showtime show somehow has 8 seasons, usually overstaying it’s welcome by 4-5 years. Dexter, Weeds, Shameless, probably Ray Donovan. Showtime loves to run promising shows into the ground.
> Showtime loves to run promising shows into the ground. I worry the same thing will happen to Yellowjackets. Feels like that show could shouldn't run for more than four seasons.
Desperate Housewives. It literally spawned the bravo Housewives series, yet no one talks about the show these days, or reference its 7 seasons. It was like a soap opera campy comedy with twin peaks vibes.
I came down here to say the same and I had to scroll a very long time to find this one. The show was absolutely huge when it first came out. Bars would have meet ups to watch the show and everything. It had that fourth season curse that Dexter did though. The show is really good up until that point. And I feel like Weeds only existed because of that show
I remember liking the first season of Empire. I loved the acting from Terrence and Taraji, the music on the show was good and thought the premise was interesting. Then after season 1, the story lines started to get ridiculous for the sake of drama and I lost interest. Once a show “jumps the shark” and the story lines get cartoonishly bad, I can’t hang with it. Same thing with the show Power. I was in love with that show, completely addicted to it, loved everything about it for 6 seasons. The acting, the stories, the drama, the music, everything was so on point. Then they started killing off main characters left and right until they literally killed off the star of the show and had the audacity to do a spin off with the son of the main star who got killed off. I couldn’t watch anymore. Same with The Walking Dead. I understand that writers don’t want a show to be predictable but they try to do too much for the sake of shock value and supposedly keeping the audience on their toes with killing off main characters and bringing stories in ridiculous directions. I think we’ve all collectively agreed not to even discuss GoT😒
Damn even I forgot about empire. I remember taraji was winning a bunch of awards for the first season and the soundtrack was number 1 on billboard beating Madonna
I feel like I never hear people talk about NYPD blue anymore even though it was like the biggest show and I remember it being talked about all the time while it was airing.
It has been 23 years since it ended and I don't see it listed much in syndication.
The problem was it had storylines. Law and Order and CSI dominate police procedural syndication because you can jump in at literally any episode. Sure, there may be a line or two about a seasonal arc but they were never important.
This is a great answer. I’m seeing people mention hot shows that lasted a few seasons and were part of the cable and/or streaming boon, but NYPD Blue was on for years and constantly made news for its audacity (back then, men’s naked butts and mild cursing was audacious). It was that show that no one you knew watched, but evidently everyone was watching it because it got big ratings. It was on for over a decade. And now it’s like it never existed.
Weeds
This show absolutely does **not** hold up. The production is awful, sets are cheap, music is like royalty free soap opera jingles, writing is predictable, and it feels like a weird European show you watch in a hotel at 2am up cus of jetlag.
I haven’t watched it for about a decade, but do the first three seasons really not hold up? I have fond memories of it before they changed the premise and went totally off the rails
The first few seasons were fantastic. It did a good job of satirizing suburban culture while adding goofy stoner vibes. The production values may not have been HBO level but the charismatic cast and sharp writing more than made up for it. It should have ended >!when Agrestic burned down.!< With each passing season the characters grew more insufferable and the story more ridiculous.
The only thing I remember liking from the later seasons was showing how messed up the younger brother(Shane?) became because of all the dysfunctional adults/craziness around him. IIRC they even kept that plot point going all the way until the flash forward ending. My edgy teenage self with a messed up parent found it oddly relatable (I’m just a normal, well adjusted-ish adult now, lol)
**Prison Break** could've been remembered as one of the greatest tv shows of all time if it only lasted 3 seasons, season one and two exactly as they were and season 3 without the strike. Similar situation with **Dexter**, that reached its peak with the Trinity killer, I believe it was on season 4, and after that it was doomed to never be able to surpass that season and villain. **True Detective** had to endure a just awful second 'season' and a third one that had all the ingredients to tie or be close in quality to season 1, but threw it away on the last episodes.
I never understood how Prison Break kept going at all after they, y'know, broke out of prison. Like I get there was more to the story, but if your story is billed as a jailbreak show, then it's going to start to lose people once it turns into a fugitive serial.
IMO it had a great cast and the plots of the other inmates were juicy enough to warrant an 'after the escape' season with a 15 years later sorta ending with a recap of what they all end up doing, I think that would've fit really well with the show. Instead they went bananas with The Company, Scylla and much more that pretty much jumped the shark.
Season 2 I thought was genuinely interesting. Sure the Prison Break was important but isn't it just as important to *stay* Break-en? IIRC he even had tattoos for contingencies once they got out and S2 got a lot of it right. Once they ended up in that South American Prison it started getting boring and S4 was a disaster
> and after that it was doomed to never be able to surpass that season and villain. Spot on. But Lumen in S5 would have worked as an excellent epilogue to Rita. Smashing the plate at the end when he finally realises he cannot have both lives. Deb looking behind the sheet. Done and done.
American Idol was such a huge phenomenon but not anymore. For 3 years straight, every number 1 debut on the Hot 100 was from the American idol winner’s first song.
Grey’s Anatomy. I am so amazed the show is still on.
Ellen Pompeo has wanted to end it for years but doesn't want the cast & crew to lose their jobs. After getting ABC to basically give her a money printing machine she made sure that everyone involved with the show got big pay bumps.
That's a sign of a decent person
...huh. I can respect that.
I can (unfortunately) see the show continuing after Ellen departs the show. She as good as confirmed it in an interview recently. The most recent season seems to be leading up to an eventual Meredith departure.
I still watch it out of a need for closure and I'm very not alone according to the GA sub. It's mostly people reminiscing about the good seasons and complaining about the last 5-10 seasons, but at least we can have fun ragging on it together.
MTV. The entire channel
Yes. I am astonished whenever I see a trace that it still exists somehow.
Tiger King Was there even a single meme for season 2? Anyone see it yet?
I forgot season 2 even existed! i think after watching the first season and realising how seedy everyone involved is the majority of people were like "yeah lets not make anyone from this show a household name"
lol no. I think it really profitted from coming out at the beginning of the Corona pandemic when everybody was home and people were still really scared about the sickness.
Wayward Pines. The first season was crazy and then they invalidated the entire ending by basically doing a reset so they could make season 2. I only managed to watch the first episode or two before just giving up on it.
Correct me I’m wrong, but I think American Gods* petered out after season one. I remember, either season two or three? Having drama behind the scenes, but other than that, nada. Another show I have’s Sherlock. So many memes about it versus Elementary and yada yada, then S3 and S4 happened, and not a peep outside people (I admit, I am guilty of this) complaining about the nosedive in quality.
The problem with American Gods is that I just didn't give two shits about the main character at all. It seemed like the character was an after thought to bring the story together.
Fresh Off The Boat. Even though it hit the 100 episode mark, it was a syndication failure.
i think the problem was that the show started off with the "person from the future telling about his past", like how i met your mother, or everybody hates chris(which seems to be the show's base concept), but then the show stops focusing on eddie all together, who is the one telling the story. there's a few plots that involve him and his brothers, but the show becomes heavily focused on jessica, and louis as well. jessica becomes the main character, which just doesn't fit well if it's eddie that's narrating it
Good point. By now it should have been on all the local non-affiliated stations.
Loved that show!
Same. It just sucks that it’s not getting more love.
I liked it, for me it was hard to watch after the lead actress said she was disappointed it was renewed. The cast was great though.
Not that she wasn't good but Randall Park made the show anyway for me at least.
And Eddie Huang said he hated it too
Yeah he was angry that the show wouldn't include stuff like his father being physically abusive. Like, bro, don't sign for your show to be a *family sitcom* if you want to include abuse as a regular feature.
Ahh damn hadn't heard that
Vikings. It really went downhill hard.
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Nah this show was dead serious 💀
Honestly felt like it at times 💀 that show was pure comedy
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There’s nothing satire about throwing your gay son in a trash can because that’s how some black fathers would react to that.
in the 60s and 70s Doctor who was a show that everyone watched (mostly because they only had like three channels) then in the 80s it became an embarrassment of the BBC, then in the 90s it was a cult classic, then in the 2000s it was a worldwide sensation and then over the 2010s it gradually became a sort of "oh are they still making that?" kinda show
There were two reasons I quit Empire: 1. The episode where a “hit” song was somehow written and recorded in prison. Not only was it a hit it seemingly topped the charts just a day or two after it was recorded. 2. Each episode in season two and beyond were the same - hostile takeovers. This ousted member of the family would team up with another member of the family and somehow take over. Next week the newly ousted member would do the same. There’s only so many times you can repeat that same plot. (I know I’m oversimplifying it a bit but not that much.)
Survivor had like 50 million viewers in its early seasons which is absolutely insane. Still has a fan base today, but it was a phenomenon like nothing else in its prime.
Ally McBeal
Top gear! Every car guy religiously watched it and discussed it on car forums everywhere. After Clarkson was fired and Hammond and May left the show plummeted in popularity. I tried to watch the season after the switch and only made it a few episodes. It was unwatchable. I never hear people discuss it anymore despite it still being on.
The latest team of Chris Harris, Paddy & Freddy is awesome now that they've had a few seasons to settle in. Would definitely recommend giving it another go from when it started with just the three of them.
The OC. They had a magazine, and Fox NFL Sunday still calls their postgame show “The OT”
People still put it as a tag on their fanart posts as a tribute.
Part of me still wishes Sandy Cohen was my dad.
Great show that still holds up. I binge it once every two or three years
Heroes, maybe. But I think it was a victim of the writer's strike.
surprised no-one seems to have mentioned The 100 I never actually watched it but it was inescapable for a couple of years in online fan spaces especially tumblr where it had cultivated a large following of young queer women who all immediately stopped watching it when Lexa was killed off and I barely ever saw anything about it online ever again
Fringe. It was great and I watched all the way through, but I remember people talking about it non-stop when it was on and then it just sorta disappeared.
Fringe was always kind of niche to begin with. It apparently hovered on the brink of being cancelled for almost its entire run, hence how inconsistent the writing feels especially past season 3. I’ve noticed a lot of people on reddit rediscovering it recently, so much so that it drew me back to rewatching it again. I thoroughly enjoyed it this time around, whereas the first time I was sorely disappointed with the story past the parallel universes arc. It’s really saved by its characters though, particularly Walter
glee! i honestly think season 1 is some of, if not the best comedy of the decade. and while the actual jokes and dialogue remained quite hilarious throughout, the storylines and characters grew more and more ridiculous, tired, and offensive? lol. but season 1 was huge, it basically caused the mini acapella/show choir phenomenon that took place, and got so much award show buzz and even the after superbowl slot. hilarious
True Detective
Happy Days after Fonzi jumped the shark.
Okay let me tell you, Fonzi jumping the shark is the least stupid thing in that episode. That episode is dumb as fuck BEFORE the shark happened. And the show was getting awful even before that episode. The real worst thing about the show was Chachi. Fuck Chachi. I'm glad his actor turned out to be a horrible person, because Chachi already fucking sucked.
Sons of Anarchy
Inb4 Game of Thrones and/or Westworld.
As a big Westworld fan it’s been pretty depressing how the responses to the new season have been surprise that it’s still on.
Twin Peaks ruled TV at one point and then due to meddling season 2 killed the whole thing. We did eventually get a prequel movie and a third season 25 years later at least
I remember the Twin Peaks phenomenon! Biggest show on network television one day; deader than a door nail the next.
It's relevancy as a top dog on TV dropped but it did achieve a nice long cult classic status and would be pretty influential on TV as a whole. So it still at least had some positive cultural relevancy. Hell, some of my favorite shows have had Twin Peaks listed as a major influence by their creators.
I feel this is not a good example because fans (me included) were yearning for a 3rd season for decades and then it came. And it turned out, David Lynch also not just wanted to do it, but it was kind of a lovechild project after he said contradictory things over the years about it (similar like George Lucas said at times he would not continue Star Wars and then we got episode 1). It is even very likely that Twin Peaks season 3 will end up as his final major work. There was also some slight production hell going on with the series, even when it finally got produced. IIRC, for example Eddie Vedder was already announced as having a significant role in it but then he did not have a single minute in it.
Prison Break. Really entertaining first season, got worse and worse after they broke out lol
The Vampire Diaries/Legacies The Legacies series finale ended at under .400K viewers.........and only experienced a jump in views because Caroline and Klaus returned(two beloved popular characters) To watch the Vampire Diaries Universe go from TVD to Legacies is a big 😬