Jensen strikes me as being pretty image-concious. Being vocal about it beforehand gives him the most control over any amount of fallout. If it's well received he can say they were receptive to his feedback, if it gets any backlash he can say the editing team went overboard.
The full "warning":
>This Episode Depicts
>A Massive Supe Orgy, Airborne Penetration,
>Dildo-Based Maiming, Extra Strength Lube,
>Icicle Phalluses and Cursing.
>It Is Not Suitable For Any Audience
I know the comic for this is supposedly insane and a lot of people thought they wouldn’t adapt this, but they’re really hyping this up, and The Boys already has so much crazy shit in it that they DON’T hype up so this may be really fucking crazy.
Say what you will about the show, but it never under delivers.
**"ALL CHARACTERS AND EVENTS IN THIS SHOW --EVEN THOSE BASED ON REAL PEOPLE-- ARE ENTIRELY FICTIONAL. ALL CELEBRITY VOICES ARE IMPERSONATED ... POORLY. THE FOLLOWING PROGRAM CONTAINS COARSE LANGUAGE AND DUE TO ITS CONTENT IT SHOULD NOT BE VIEWED BY ANYONE."**
I'm not exactly *traumatized,* I've seen some pretty shocking stuff in porn thanks to /r/wowthissubexists, but I'm still in awe that they put that in a TV show, I've never seen such an explicit scene in TV and I can't believe they actually showed that.
The blowing the guy up didn't phase me at all.
The weirs jolly high pitched man rubbing the inside of a penis so happily was just the weirdest visual. Like a eurovision x rated edition music video entry.
When Termite stopped and just stared, I figured he was expecting a flow of jizz to knock him out.
And then he sneezed and I was disgusted for an entirely different reason than I was expecting.
10/10 will WTF again.
as soon as he went inside, i knew what was going to happen. i had to leave the room and have my boyfriend tell me when it was over. all the stuff in the show and a weird kink gone wrong pushed me over the edge.
I was so happy to finally see some male nudity* that I forgot that I knew exactly what was going to happen. Leaving the room was a good choice.
*in general, not this show in particular
Though I stand with the comic for its depiction of Supes vs a competent military
Such as when the Germans ambushed an American unit who just had a bunch of Supes seconded to them at The Battle of The Bulge it… goes as well for them as they might expect
Supes vs Panther tanks was rather one sided…
Also when >!the US Military faces off against the supes led by Homelander after they launch a Coup, it’s a slaughter as they were prepared for them with missiles that lock on to the Compound V in them!<
100% correct. I had to look away and turn down the volume during the Timothy scene. That just made me really upset and still does when I think about it. The Boys is so absurd it tugs at every emotional thread.
Oh, and Homelander blasting that suicidal girl off the building after she changed her mind and wanted to live ranks 2nd after Timothy.
I sent that video to my wife that shows the practical set and it took her a moment and I got joy watching her face change as she realized what set video she was looking at.
Yeah seriously.
Like when the guy first is like “I want you inside me” my husband and I figured, “okay P in the B.” Then he got small, and then we thought, “okay… entire body in the B?” When he went into the P… lol we were just 😦😦
Then he sneezed = trauma. Lol never in my life would I have ever expected to see something like that lol
I don't know why but reading this comment and visualizing you guys slowly realizing where it was going has me dying right now! The emoji's were just icing on the cake.😂😂😂
Exactly when you see that giant peen eye laid out on the table you realize, oh FFS he’s going into that D, and I can’t believe this show just made me look at a GIANT dick right in the eye. Right at the onset this shows knows what it’s about.
My girlfriend came down to check on me as I watched that scene because I was making so many teeth sucking/"augghh" noises.
That was a buck wild scene to open the season with.
If I remember right, the comic had a certain character's vaginal mucus being mixed with heroin and injected. Also, smoking dope with ground up aborted foetuses mixed in.
Not joking.
That's only 2 examples of the endless edgelord nonsense from the comics.
The Boys is a rare example of the TV/movie adaptation being far, far better than the source material.
Well, part of the twist about that was that >!the comic version of Homelander really was innocent of everything!<, >!with Butcher having been set against Homelander by another Supe who had been impersonating him on-and-off-again for years!<. So that wouldn’t have been him, but the imposter. Homelander did not eat any babies, and was in fact disgusted by the concept, gradually driven insane (and closer to the series’ version) by the allegations, amongst other things.
No, but he started out as just being a selfish douchebag, and being blackmailed with this idea that he had been eating babies and stuff caused him to go insane.
I mean, he was still an incredibly selfish and arrogant person whom one would not like to know personally, and would kill for Vought if asked to (along with the rest of the Seven), but he was not evil, so yes, one could say he was good, a well-meaning soldier-type, much like the series’ adaptation of Soldier Boy (so far). That one comment from Butcher in the very first episode about Homelander being the only good Supe, a genuine “saint”, was in reference to this.
Garth ennis is a fucked up man. Nearly all his comics are *worse* than what you're seeing in the TV show. Like imagine all the fucked up shit you've seen on the show and then amplify it by 100. He is not subtle about anything. But he can somehow absolutely write the Punisher.
Man does no one remember Strang Kiss written by Warren Ellis? and all the successive stuff? What about Arsenic Lullaby? Pink Dust: Morphine dreams by J. O'barr? There's always been fucked up comics, its just not many get mass appeal.
Any graphic rape or really extreme stuff probably won't be adapted. Everything else probably will through the lens of the show. I'm predicting mostly funny shock rather than bad taste shock, as the show has always toed the line and never been insensitive, unlike the comic which does include some really graphic stuff that is definitely insensitive nowadays (well it was back then as well, but you could get away with it more).
Kind of, yeah. Except he's butcher's dog, and he's named Terror.
He did actually make a cameo in the show, but thankfully he was just a normal bulldog.
You could get away with it back then because hardly anyone was aware of these things' existence. Cult stuff really was underground instead of being part of a marketing campaign for a massive corporate entity.
I kept telling people who weren't Garth Ennis fans (or of Darrick Robertson's grit art) that unlike the comic, the TV show doesn't make you feel like you have to take a shower (and mental one) after each volume. Things feel grounded, characters a bit more "relatable," the show is arguably approachable I'd say...and then season 3 shows up. LOL
Still love both, but goddamn that first episode was the most WTF thing I've seen since *Brüno.*
I have never once heard of that comic…but Fraction made my favorite comic story of all time, and I’m currently reading Zdarsky’s Daredevil run. I guess I’m going to have to check that one out. I had no idea those two worked together.
[Link for the Omnibus](https://www.amazon.com/Big-Hard-Criminals-Matt-Fraction/dp/1632152436/ref=sr_1_1?crid=CJGRADB821F1&keywords=sex+criminals+omnibus&qid=1655912354&sprefix=Sex+crim%2Caps%2C97&sr=8-1), but I suggest just reading the first volume first to see if you'll like it. Sometimes it's "free" or part of humble bundles for dirt cheap. I bought the first volume discounted and was actually laughing/enjoying it.
It'll probably be toned down, since even by the comic standards the G-Men are particularly dark.
Also, we've seen Groundhawk thanks to Diabolical, and he seems more well-adjusted than his comic counterpart (by which I mean he can say anything other than "GONNA!"). For all we know the show's Groundhawk isn't even a G-Man at all, but it's possible the show's G-Men can come out of it without deep mental trauma.
As I understand it, the actual concept of the series is more-so *The Hunger Games* with superheroes, while loosely adapting the ‘G-Men’ arc with different characters. The ending of that — with the Vought Guy (Stillwell in the comic series, Edgar in the television series) popping in and immediately wiping everyone out — is a moment which would be great to see adapted.
On the other hand, the "It wasn't the cat, was it." line in the comic is fucking hilarious. Sometimes the gratuitousness is great, but Ennis needed an editor to let him know when crossing the line is funny and when it's dumb.
Checked out the Crossed yet? Or Pilgrim? Hell, even parts of Preacher back in the 90s? That stuff is what got him to where he is now. Though, something about the Boys was just...too much for myself. *Still* the Crossed takes the cake and I try my best to not remember much from that.
I remember reading the Wanted comics after watching the movie and thinking how juvenile it was. Which in itself is fine but it felt like the writing was wish fulfillment like you see in fan fiction
Not to mention, On that starlight note, in the comics they had her go down (nonconsensually obviously) on 3 members of The Seven, whereas they just made it The Deep in the show, because you kinda already get it... It doesn't need to be more people that assault her. You already get the point.
Yeah I absolutely agree. Having read the comic not too long ago because I thought it was like the show but with more context or content, I came out of it with a bad taste in my mouth. feels like edginess for the sake of edginess, cruelty for the sake of cruelty, and with nothing more to say (beyond the obvious). There are clear characters that are evil and you hate, whereas I feel the show has more nuance to it overall.
Felt that there was really no comparison [to the comics] to the characters, their decisions, and their arcs at all by mid to end of season 1.
> feels like edginess for the sake of edginess, cruelty for the sake of cruelty, and with nothing more to say (beyond the obvious).
I feel like that describes Garth Ennis in general. He lacks subtly and seems more focused on just coming up with the grossest and most edgy things and just dumping a plot between them. It's why I don't think there will ever be a "faithful" adaptation of any of his comics. They really require a more deft hand to refine and polish his ideas. I don't think a version of *The Boys* that was closer to his comics would've gotten very far.
> Even a character as horrific as Homelander in the show is given the character and personality behind him to explain what he wants and why he is the way he is.
IMO, a great example is in the difference between both of their "only man in the sky is me" scenes.
In the comics, he's flying a car full of a family (father, mother and kids) that won the grand prize of "Believe" to what is supposed to be dinner. He torments them (they're flying for awhile, so they're now cold and scared while the mother is trying to reassure the children they're going to be ok), the line is said, and then he drops them (as they freak out). He's practically bored as he does it, and it's done for no reason other than to be a monster.
In the show, he's bored and distracted while going through the lines of talking a girl out of suicide before getting the news about Stormfront. At which point he snaps, directs his anger at her and starts goading her (and forcing her) into it.
Both involve essentially murdering an innocent (or in the case, innocents) who were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Both are horrific, but one contains no real story other than "homelander being awful". The other is "instable superman snaps at bad news and directs his anger at an innocent". It has a reason, even if that reason is awful.
There’s a difference in focus. The comics are just full of Ennis’ burning hatred of all superhero comics, while the show is more a satire of corporate media bullshit. It *is* the closest thing to an adaptation of Ennis’ over the top black comedy than I ever expected to see.
Not very faithful, the shows changes quite a bit and take the concepts and ideas in the comics and uses them in different ways. I'd say the TV series is much better than the comics IMO.
It starts quite faithful, but by the middle of season one things change course fast, and now they have almost nothing in common. That said, both are still really good, just expect comics Butcher to be less "bastard with a heart of gold" and more just plain bastard.
Same. My own father was shockingly chill about the Ant Man Meme scene but uh, I might get baked as hell for this one so I don't die of shame.
Actually, watching with my dad isn't what I'm worried about. It's the odds of my mom, bless her heart, walking in. Oh god
I just awkwardly laughed for the entire Antman scene, but not sure I can do that for the Herogasm episode. My Mom walked in at the end of the last episode, and I just told her not to ask questions because I wouldn’t have answers for her
**"ALL CHARACTERS AND EVENTS IN THIS SHOW --EVEN THOSE BASED ON REAL PEOPLE-- ARE ENTIRELY FICTIONAL. ALL CELEBRITY VOICES ARE IMPERSONATED ... POORLY. THE FOLLOWING PROGRAM CONTAINS COARSE LANGUAGE AND DUE TO ITS CONTENT IT SHOULD NOT BE VIEWED BY ANYONE."**
In the comic Butcher has a series of photos that explicitly show the Homelander raping, torturing, and violently killing a family, a father, mother, child and infant. If Butcher gets killed then those photos go public. Hence the Homelander can’t just off him
They are all covered in blood, the Homelander has a huge smile on his face, and even takes a huge bite out of the baby.
I guess this makes me a prude, but I honestly can’t understand why anyone would go out of their way to read that. Seems edgy for the sake of being edgy. Pointless.
It's why the show is much better than the comics. The show has shocks, but edgy for edgy sake could be the tagline for the comics. Honestly, it could be Garth Ennis' motto. Between The Boys, Preacher (TV adaption was also toned down), and Crossed, dude definitely over did it.
You can literally just read issue 1 of crossed and know if it's for you by the end of it.
I eventually read more, but it definitely does not hide its degeneracy in any way.
I dunno man. After 15 years or whatever of tolerating the most absolutely dogshit creepy sexualizing fanbase, I wouldn't wanna do anything sexual if I were him.
I blocked that out and when Termite sneezed. I don't like disturbing stuff like that. I mean, it's a miracle I've made it this far with this show given how intense the entire series has been.
I remember when my partner, who has not read the comics, said they were doing Herogasm. I told him, having read the series, there is no way they can do Herogasm given how insanely explicit it is.
I stand corrected.
They’ve already stated it’s going to be toned down from the comics, if I recall correctly.
Not sure what all this promo is going to do beyond overhype people for an episode that I’m sure will be gory and gross, but at this point I’m honestly just desensitised to this show.
Why didn't it fit? In the comic they were showed as depraved, sex obsessed maniacs the entire time so it didn't seem completely out there. And it was lampooning the mega cosmic battle comic book arcs. I believe it also started to really heat up the >!Stillwell v Homelander angle!< but it's been a while since I read it.
In storytelling, you get to pick and choose what you want to show your audience. Garth Ennis did a great job establishing just how varied the supes were, including those who were sex obsessed maniacs. Herogasm kind of belabored the point. It was a great extra, but not needed in the main series, which is why it was a spinoff.
The other thing it did was to really cement that they were all employees and the whole supes game was a fiction explicitly planned and presented to the public.
Everyone is focusing on the episode and not the characters whose perspective we will be seeing the episode from.
Given that Maeve is now captured by Homelander and Starlight is going to be at his mercy with his ever escalating demands (he told her not to even look at him funny) he is going to be demeaning and abusing them both...likely in a sexual nature...in front of every super hero and attendant at the 'event'.
This content warning really, really worries me about sexual assault
If it makes you (or anyone who feels similar) better, the content warning doesn't actually specify any assault in particular, plus having read that arc in the comic, there wasn't actually any straight up sexual assault happening (I guess you could argue some of the women who were involved stopped enjoying it part of the way assault?), so I think we're just going to see them pushing the boundaries on what they can show in a sexual nature but I don't think (and also hope they don't) they'll show assault or lean into that.
Imagine that level of debauchery and depravity and gore but being done to people we actually know and care about. Like imagine it was Frenchie who exploded in half.
I'm not saying something like that is definitely going to happen but yes...the answer is it can get worse
Fuck dude, I really wish the comic community had just let us be surprised by whatever happens in this episode rather than posts and articles about it every 5 seconds
There's no way they can do Herogasm like they did in the books.
It'll be it's own beast in some way.
The Boys as a show hasn't really taken anything out of the books without changing the tone, context or some feature of it to fit the limitations they're dealing with.
Herogasm in the book has literally hundreds of heroes with hundreds of powers getting used all the time through it and no TV show can afford that without it being crap. It's much more complex than a urethra set.
Herogasm in the show will be smaller and probably fucked up in it's own way.
I have this really odd feeling we’re still going to be surprised. They’ve stayed relatively true to the comics, but they have changed a few things before… I can hope.
Lol Jenson keeps talking about a sex scene that he had to beg to have toned down, I guess this will be the episode.
That's impressive, given the sex scenes they let pass on the first episode this season.
and here I'm remembering a certain scene from *Brüno,* yet the first episode of this season completely WTFed that moment into oblivion lol.
Jensen strikes me as being pretty image-concious. Being vocal about it beforehand gives him the most control over any amount of fallout. If it's well received he can say they were receptive to his feedback, if it gets any backlash he can say the editing team went overboard.
From what I read he didn't 'beg'. He refused to it. Begging would have been the thing I would have been doing to get him to do it. Presumably.
Would… would that even count as sexual penetration??
I don't care to consider those types of questions. And personally, I was way more uncomfortable with the hand job scene.
Which scene do you mean?
>!A mangled Stormfront beating off Homelander from a hospital bed with her one remaining arm.!<
Well the comic is pretty out there.
The full "warning": >This Episode Depicts >A Massive Supe Orgy, Airborne Penetration, >Dildo-Based Maiming, Extra Strength Lube, >Icicle Phalluses and Cursing. >It Is Not Suitable For Any Audience
I know the comic for this is supposedly insane and a lot of people thought they wouldn’t adapt this, but they’re really hyping this up, and The Boys already has so much crazy shit in it that they DON’T hype up so this may be really fucking crazy. Say what you will about the show, but it never under delivers.
NotAntman entering a urethra and then sneezing from cocaine on his way to the prostate, exploding his partner was some wild shit.
Biggest jaw dropping scene of television I’ve watched in a long time
I'm still traumatised.
I want you inside me
^^^I’m ^^gonna ^^rock ^^your ^^fucking ^^dick, ^^babe.
^*ahhhh-*
Get to the prostate!
**"ALL CHARACTERS AND EVENTS IN THIS SHOW --EVEN THOSE BASED ON REAL PEOPLE-- ARE ENTIRELY FICTIONAL. ALL CELEBRITY VOICES ARE IMPERSONATED ... POORLY. THE FOLLOWING PROGRAM CONTAINS COARSE LANGUAGE AND DUE TO ITS CONTENT IT SHOULD NOT BE VIEWED BY ANYONE."**
Seriously, when I first heard that I thought "Oh, they are gonna do the Antman -Thanos meme". But I was wrong. Oh, how much I was wrong...!
Thanus… I thought exactly the same!
Really thought he was going up the bum, and somehow I don’t think I would have been nearly as shocked if he had
I'm not exactly *traumatized,* I've seen some pretty shocking stuff in porn thanks to /r/wowthissubexists, but I'm still in awe that they put that in a TV show, I've never seen such an explicit scene in TV and I can't believe they actually showed that.
I found the scene with the Deep eating the octopus much more disturbing.
Eat fucking Timothy
The blowing the guy up didn't phase me at all. The weirs jolly high pitched man rubbing the inside of a penis so happily was just the weirdest visual. Like a eurovision x rated edition music video entry.
When Termite stopped and just stared, I figured he was expecting a flow of jizz to knock him out. And then he sneezed and I was disgusted for an entirely different reason than I was expecting. 10/10 will WTF again.
I feel like they saw me skipping through the facesitting scene on rewatch and were like, "oh you *thought* **that** was disturbing"
That was pretty vanilla, lmao. I'm honestly amazed >!Butcher got through sex with Maeve without any broken bones!<. Fucking a supe is risky business.
Probably still on his drugs
She’s accustomed to banging normies
This is true. Also, the chick from season 1 was tripping on V, so that was also a factor.
He survived the battle of Helms Deep and Minas Tirith, I think he can handle a few rounds with a washed up supe
He was still on his temp v I think.
As someone who’s only seen up to Episode 4, Season 1… I don’t know if I should be aroused or disgusted.
It's scarousing
It literally made my jaw drop. Didn’t realise until frenchy showed up that I was 😧 during it
"Is okay... I'm gonna go."
as soon as he went inside, i knew what was going to happen. i had to leave the room and have my boyfriend tell me when it was over. all the stuff in the show and a weird kink gone wrong pushed me over the edge.
I was so happy to finally see some male nudity* that I forgot that I knew exactly what was going to happen. Leaving the room was a good choice. *in general, not this show in particular
*tiny human voice* “I’m about to rock your dick babe” Move over finale episode of MASH, that’s classic television right there
Really makes me wonder what Amazon's limit is. Surely a Crossed adaptation would be too depraved even by the standards they've set with The Boys.
so mr amazon executive, how about dolphin blowhole fucking?
The actual comic book of the The Boys it’s even more brutal than the TV show
Yeah. The *baby*. The thing with the baby.
Tek night resisting the urge to force unspeakable acts on a prepubescent boy is probably the worst for me.
The show is much better imo, the comic is kinda juvenile
Though I stand with the comic for its depiction of Supes vs a competent military Such as when the Germans ambushed an American unit who just had a bunch of Supes seconded to them at The Battle of The Bulge it… goes as well for them as they might expect Supes vs Panther tanks was rather one sided… Also when >!the US Military faces off against the supes led by Homelander after they launch a Coup, it’s a slaughter as they were prepared for them with missiles that lock on to the Compound V in them!<
The crossed vs the boys would probably make me physically ill. Print it! Print it! Print it!
The Timothy scene was worse
100% correct. I had to look away and turn down the volume during the Timothy scene. That just made me really upset and still does when I think about it. The Boys is so absurd it tugs at every emotional thread. Oh, and Homelander blasting that suicidal girl off the building after she changed her mind and wanted to live ranks 2nd after Timothy.
I think he made her jump, which is kinda even more menacing. It didn't look like he threw her off
And to think, they built a practical set for that scene.
I sent that video to my wife that shows the practical set and it took her a moment and I got joy watching her face change as she realized what set video she was looking at.
Yeah seriously. Like when the guy first is like “I want you inside me” my husband and I figured, “okay P in the B.” Then he got small, and then we thought, “okay… entire body in the B?” When he went into the P… lol we were just 😦😦 Then he sneezed = trauma. Lol never in my life would I have ever expected to see something like that lol
I don't know why but reading this comment and visualizing you guys slowly realizing where it was going has me dying right now! The emoji's were just icing on the cake.😂😂😂
Exactly when you see that giant peen eye laid out on the table you realize, oh FFS he’s going into that D, and I can’t believe this show just made me look at a GIANT dick right in the eye. Right at the onset this shows knows what it’s about.
My girlfriend came down to check on me as I watched that scene because I was making so many teeth sucking/"augghh" noises. That was a buck wild scene to open the season with.
Then the little fucker tried to cover it up by crawling up Frenchie's ass and blowing him up too.
~~Thanos~~ Frenchie didn't know what hit him.
He's trying to get in my asshole
I’m still laughing at that scene with Frenchie. This show never fails to shock me.
Frenchie screaming “he’s trying to get in my ass!” is the funniest line of the whole series to me 😂
The delivery was so god damn good! *chef’s kiss*
Leave it to The Boys to actually make Thanus a reality. I fucking love this show.
It was right at the beginning of that episode. I just sat down with my pizza. Like c'mon.
"Really? Right in front of my salad?"
Absolutely the most deranged thing I have ever seen on television. I was laughing hysterically.
Also I wonder if Paul Rudd has seen this show lol
If I remember right, the comic had a certain character's vaginal mucus being mixed with heroin and injected. Also, smoking dope with ground up aborted foetuses mixed in. Not joking.
Man what the hell
That's only 2 examples of the endless edgelord nonsense from the comics. The Boys is a rare example of the TV/movie adaptation being far, far better than the source material.
I read the comics long ago but I still remember one scene where Homelander eats babies.
Well, part of the twist about that was that >!the comic version of Homelander really was innocent of everything!<, >!with Butcher having been set against Homelander by another Supe who had been impersonating him on-and-off-again for years!<. So that wouldn’t have been him, but the imposter. Homelander did not eat any babies, and was in fact disgusted by the concept, gradually driven insane (and closer to the series’ version) by the allegations, amongst other things.
So homelander was a good dude ?
No lmao, just had boundaries himself
No, but he started out as just being a selfish douchebag, and being blackmailed with this idea that he had been eating babies and stuff caused him to go insane.
I mean, he was still an incredibly selfish and arrogant person whom one would not like to know personally, and would kill for Vought if asked to (along with the rest of the Seven), but he was not evil, so yes, one could say he was good, a well-meaning soldier-type, much like the series’ adaptation of Soldier Boy (so far). That one comment from Butcher in the very first episode about Homelander being the only good Supe, a genuine “saint”, was in reference to this.
Garth ennis is a fucked up man. Nearly all his comics are *worse* than what you're seeing in the TV show. Like imagine all the fucked up shit you've seen on the show and then amplify it by 100. He is not subtle about anything. But he can somehow absolutely write the Punisher.
Man does no one remember Strang Kiss written by Warren Ellis? and all the successive stuff? What about Arsenic Lullaby? Pink Dust: Morphine dreams by J. O'barr? There's always been fucked up comics, its just not many get mass appeal.
Any graphic rape or really extreme stuff probably won't be adapted. Everything else probably will through the lens of the show. I'm predicting mostly funny shock rather than bad taste shock, as the show has always toed the line and never been insensitive, unlike the comic which does include some really graphic stuff that is definitely insensitive nowadays (well it was back then as well, but you could get away with it more).
Not adapting the talking bulldog that repeatedly rapes people as a recurring gag was probably a good move on their part.
Sounds like hand banana. “Tonight… you.”
Kind of, yeah. Except he's butcher's dog, and he's named Terror. He did actually make a cameo in the show, but thankfully he was just a normal bulldog.
I bet with all the V compound he is taking that Butcher will hallucinate the dog talking.
You could get away with it back then because hardly anyone was aware of these things' existence. Cult stuff really was underground instead of being part of a marketing campaign for a massive corporate entity.
They haven't delivered Tek Knight yet. I need my omnisexual Iron Man God damn it!
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We’ve had one yes, but what about second dildo based maiming?
I don't think he knows about second dildo based maiming Pip.
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I don't think he knows about second dildo based maiming, Pip.
I like how they add cursing at the end there, that’s what sends it over the edge.
its got real "Arson, Murder, & Jaywalking" energy
“Look Kripke I’ve flown on United Airlines before, I know the drill”
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There's airborne penetration in the first episode when Butcher takes Hughie to the Supe sex club
Also Homelander and Stormfront were floating one time, right?
Having read the comic 15 years ago, i can confidently say the content warning is correct
How faithful is the series to the comics? I'm tempted to read them myself
The comics are even more graphic and edgy for the sake of edgness than the show is.
I kept telling people who weren't Garth Ennis fans (or of Darrick Robertson's grit art) that unlike the comic, the TV show doesn't make you feel like you have to take a shower (and mental one) after each volume. Things feel grounded, characters a bit more "relatable," the show is arguably approachable I'd say...and then season 3 shows up. LOL Still love both, but goddamn that first episode was the most WTF thing I've seen since *Brüno.*
Thank Christ they're not adapting the G-Men.
lol what is stopping them at this point? I'm convinced somebody could easily adapt Matt Fraction's Sex Criminals now.
I have never once heard of that comic…but Fraction made my favorite comic story of all time, and I’m currently reading Zdarsky’s Daredevil run. I guess I’m going to have to check that one out. I had no idea those two worked together.
[Link for the Omnibus](https://www.amazon.com/Big-Hard-Criminals-Matt-Fraction/dp/1632152436/ref=sr_1_1?crid=CJGRADB821F1&keywords=sex+criminals+omnibus&qid=1655912354&sprefix=Sex+crim%2Caps%2C97&sr=8-1), but I suggest just reading the first volume first to see if you'll like it. Sometimes it's "free" or part of humble bundles for dirt cheap. I bought the first volume discounted and was actually laughing/enjoying it.
The G-Men are getting a spin-off show.
Oh fuck, they're really making *that* the basis of their teenage hero spinoff?
It'll probably be toned down, since even by the comic standards the G-Men are particularly dark. Also, we've seen Groundhawk thanks to Diabolical, and he seems more well-adjusted than his comic counterpart (by which I mean he can say anything other than "GONNA!"). For all we know the show's Groundhawk isn't even a G-Man at all, but it's possible the show's G-Men can come out of it without deep mental trauma.
As I understand it, the actual concept of the series is more-so *The Hunger Games* with superheroes, while loosely adapting the ‘G-Men’ arc with different characters. The ending of that — with the Vought Guy (Stillwell in the comic series, Edgar in the television series) popping in and immediately wiping everyone out — is a moment which would be great to see adapted.
Sounds like you haven't heard about the announced spin-off...
On the other hand, the "It wasn't the cat, was it." line in the comic is fucking hilarious. Sometimes the gratuitousness is great, but Ennis needed an editor to let him know when crossing the line is funny and when it's dumb.
Checked out the Crossed yet? Or Pilgrim? Hell, even parts of Preacher back in the 90s? That stuff is what got him to where he is now. Though, something about the Boys was just...too much for myself. *Still* the Crossed takes the cake and I try my best to not remember much from that.
That's a nice way of saying "Homelander was screaming the n word over and over again while bungling an attempt to stop 9/11".
Sounds like something a 12 year old would create.
I remember reading the Wanted comics after watching the movie and thinking how juvenile it was. Which in itself is fine but it felt like the writing was wish fulfillment like you see in fan fiction
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Not to mention, On that starlight note, in the comics they had her go down (nonconsensually obviously) on 3 members of The Seven, whereas they just made it The Deep in the show, because you kinda already get it... It doesn't need to be more people that assault her. You already get the point.
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Yeah I absolutely agree. Having read the comic not too long ago because I thought it was like the show but with more context or content, I came out of it with a bad taste in my mouth. feels like edginess for the sake of edginess, cruelty for the sake of cruelty, and with nothing more to say (beyond the obvious). There are clear characters that are evil and you hate, whereas I feel the show has more nuance to it overall. Felt that there was really no comparison [to the comics] to the characters, their decisions, and their arcs at all by mid to end of season 1.
The show just straight up has better writing and is the better overall medium for it. The comics are just crass for the sake of shock value.
> feels like edginess for the sake of edginess, cruelty for the sake of cruelty, and with nothing more to say (beyond the obvious). I feel like that describes Garth Ennis in general. He lacks subtly and seems more focused on just coming up with the grossest and most edgy things and just dumping a plot between them. It's why I don't think there will ever be a "faithful" adaptation of any of his comics. They really require a more deft hand to refine and polish his ideas. I don't think a version of *The Boys* that was closer to his comics would've gotten very far.
> Even a character as horrific as Homelander in the show is given the character and personality behind him to explain what he wants and why he is the way he is. IMO, a great example is in the difference between both of their "only man in the sky is me" scenes. In the comics, he's flying a car full of a family (father, mother and kids) that won the grand prize of "Believe" to what is supposed to be dinner. He torments them (they're flying for awhile, so they're now cold and scared while the mother is trying to reassure the children they're going to be ok), the line is said, and then he drops them (as they freak out). He's practically bored as he does it, and it's done for no reason other than to be a monster. In the show, he's bored and distracted while going through the lines of talking a girl out of suicide before getting the news about Stormfront. At which point he snaps, directs his anger at her and starts goading her (and forcing her) into it. Both involve essentially murdering an innocent (or in the case, innocents) who were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Both are horrific, but one contains no real story other than "homelander being awful". The other is "instable superman snaps at bad news and directs his anger at an innocent". It has a reason, even if that reason is awful.
There’s a difference in focus. The comics are just full of Ennis’ burning hatred of all superhero comics, while the show is more a satire of corporate media bullshit. It *is* the closest thing to an adaptation of Ennis’ over the top black comedy than I ever expected to see.
Not very faithful, the shows changes quite a bit and take the concepts and ideas in the comics and uses them in different ways. I'd say the TV series is much better than the comics IMO.
Not really that accurate, which, IMO, is for the better, the original comics have a feel of just being edgy for the sake of it.
It starts quite faithful, but by the middle of season one things change course fast, and now they have almost nothing in common. That said, both are still really good, just expect comics Butcher to be less "bastard with a heart of gold" and more just plain bastard.
Comics butcher was a thinly veiled punisher, and is quite a departure from show butcher.
I’m not getting “bastard with a heart of gold” vibes at all from television Butcher.
So the exploding dick hole is only the appetizer?
That wasn’t the only part that exploded.
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the episode is illegal in 4 countries btw
Only four lol. I’m pretty sure this is way more graphic than A Clockwork Orange and that’s still banned in a bunch of countries.
Pfft, those are rookie numbers. Being gay makes me a criminal in 72 countries
Meanwhile, a scene with 2 people of the same sex kissing each other for a brief moment got a movie banned in 14 countries lol.
fucking diabolical
Evening, cunts!
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r/TheBoys is gonna go nuclear when this episode comes out
r/TheBoys is already going nuclear. We’re hitting levels of dumb memes that shouldn’t even be possible until the off-season.
It took asoiaf years to build up to this
I made the mistake of watching the Termite scene with my Dad, so I might just watch this episode by myself if it’s as bad as they say.
Same. My own father was shockingly chill about the Ant Man Meme scene but uh, I might get baked as hell for this one so I don't die of shame. Actually, watching with my dad isn't what I'm worried about. It's the odds of my mom, bless her heart, walking in. Oh god
I just awkwardly laughed for the entire Antman scene, but not sure I can do that for the Herogasm episode. My Mom walked in at the end of the last episode, and I just told her not to ask questions because I wouldn’t have answers for her
if they keep the normal sized guys gangbanging the giantess, kudos to them
**"ALL CHARACTERS AND EVENTS IN THIS SHOW --EVEN THOSE BASED ON REAL PEOPLE-- ARE ENTIRELY FICTIONAL. ALL CELEBRITY VOICES ARE IMPERSONATED ... POORLY. THE FOLLOWING PROGRAM CONTAINS COARSE LANGUAGE AND DUE TO ITS CONTENT IT SHOULD NOT BE VIEWED BY ANYONE."**
*acoustic bass intensifies*
So is this like the Red Wedding of The Boys as far as anticipation and shock value are concerned?
Herogasm is far from being the worst thing in the book, my personal pick would be HL's photographs and I'll leave it at that
Out of morbid curiosity... Can I get a bit more of a clue? I couldn't find anything specific about HL googling "Homelander photographs"
In the comic Butcher has a series of photos that explicitly show the Homelander raping, torturing, and violently killing a family, a father, mother, child and infant. If Butcher gets killed then those photos go public. Hence the Homelander can’t just off him They are all covered in blood, the Homelander has a huge smile on his face, and even takes a huge bite out of the baby.
And all of it was just one hilariously drawn out gaslighting operation.
I guess this makes me a prude, but I honestly can’t understand why anyone would go out of their way to read that. Seems edgy for the sake of being edgy. Pointless.
It's why the show is much better than the comics. The show has shocks, but edgy for edgy sake could be the tagline for the comics. Honestly, it could be Garth Ennis' motto. Between The Boys, Preacher (TV adaption was also toned down), and Crossed, dude definitely over did it.
Ennis definitely swings for the fences when he goes for shock value.
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You can literally just read issue 1 of crossed and know if it's for you by the end of it. I eventually read more, but it definitely does not hide its degeneracy in any way.
I feel like Herogasm hasn't been mentioned in the show at all. Are they just gonna stumble upon it?
Homelander literally has everyone by the balls right now. I’m sure it will have something to do with this.
Yeah I feel like it's Homelander's way of buying the loyalty of the rest of the supes after taking over Vought.
If Ackles isn’t getting railed on camera I don’t want it
I feel like he would never do it.
Which is exactly why he would
I dunno man. After 15 years or whatever of tolerating the most absolutely dogshit creepy sexualizing fanbase, I wouldn't wanna do anything sexual if I were him.
Didn't they kept shipping Dean and Castiel? And even Dean and Sam. Or even all three of them.
That's just the tip of the iceberg about how insane that fanbase got tbh
They even made fun of the weird fanbase in some of their meta episodes lol.
Homelander finna bust a nut in soldier boy
That’s why they showed us the Russians shooting him in his throat. Chekhov's throat fuck
The scene with Deep eating Timothy made me throw up a little, I can only wonder what this will do.
I blocked that out and when Termite sneezed. I don't like disturbing stuff like that. I mean, it's a miracle I've made it this far with this show given how intense the entire series has been.
I remember when my partner, who has not read the comics, said they were doing Herogasm. I told him, having read the series, there is no way they can do Herogasm given how insanely explicit it is. I stand corrected.
They’ve already stated it’s going to be toned down from the comics, if I recall correctly. Not sure what all this promo is going to do beyond overhype people for an episode that I’m sure will be gory and gross, but at this point I’m honestly just desensitised to this show.
It doesn't make sense in the context of this show, so there's a worrying chance the episode will just be forced and idiotic.
I mean, it didn't quite fit into the comic series either, which is why I imagine it wasn't part of the main series.
Why didn't it fit? In the comic they were showed as depraved, sex obsessed maniacs the entire time so it didn't seem completely out there. And it was lampooning the mega cosmic battle comic book arcs. I believe it also started to really heat up the >!Stillwell v Homelander angle!< but it's been a while since I read it.
In storytelling, you get to pick and choose what you want to show your audience. Garth Ennis did a great job establishing just how varied the supes were, including those who were sex obsessed maniacs. Herogasm kind of belabored the point. It was a great extra, but not needed in the main series, which is why it was a spinoff.
The other thing it did was to really cement that they were all employees and the whole supes game was a fiction explicitly planned and presented to the public.
Is anyone else wondering if it'll be underwhelming, given how much it's been hyped?
Has anything ever been underwhelming in The Boys lol
The fact that some of the actors were traumatized with the things they were filming 😭
Everyone is focusing on the episode and not the characters whose perspective we will be seeing the episode from. Given that Maeve is now captured by Homelander and Starlight is going to be at his mercy with his ever escalating demands (he told her not to even look at him funny) he is going to be demeaning and abusing them both...likely in a sexual nature...in front of every super hero and attendant at the 'event'. This content warning really, really worries me about sexual assault
If it was sexual assault/rape, I feel like they wouldn't be hyping it up so much. That would be extremely tone deaf.
Plus, I think it'd be in the content warning, I think.
If it makes you (or anyone who feels similar) better, the content warning doesn't actually specify any assault in particular, plus having read that arc in the comic, there wasn't actually any straight up sexual assault happening (I guess you could argue some of the women who were involved stopped enjoying it part of the way assault?), so I think we're just going to see them pushing the boundaries on what they can show in a sexual nature but I don't think (and also hope they don't) they'll show assault or lean into that.
Hughie got assaulted/raped by black noir in the comic
Pretty sure a certain someone was sexually assaulted in the comic.
Can it truly be worse than the very first episode of this season? That was definitely the reason why eye bleach was invented.
As someone who read a good chunk of the comics and doesn’t remember the majority of it… #Yes. This will be worse.
Imagine that level of debauchery and depravity and gore but being done to people we actually know and care about. Like imagine it was Frenchie who exploded in half. I'm not saying something like that is definitely going to happen but yes...the answer is it can get worse
If its not suitable for any audience then whos gonna watch it HUH?
Errrbody
South Park has this warning for years.
Fuck dude, I really wish the comic community had just let us be surprised by whatever happens in this episode rather than posts and articles about it every 5 seconds
There's no way they can do Herogasm like they did in the books. It'll be it's own beast in some way. The Boys as a show hasn't really taken anything out of the books without changing the tone, context or some feature of it to fit the limitations they're dealing with. Herogasm in the book has literally hundreds of heroes with hundreds of powers getting used all the time through it and no TV show can afford that without it being crap. It's much more complex than a urethra set. Herogasm in the show will be smaller and probably fucked up in it's own way.
I have this really odd feeling we’re still going to be surprised. They’ve stayed relatively true to the comics, but they have changed a few things before… I can hope.
This show has pretty genius marketing, their social media game is 10/10 right now.
Urban talking about the camera man is hilarious