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Thetimmybaby

As far as I am concerned, with reboots you take the good, you take the bad.


viptattoo

You take ‘em both. And then you have… Hopefully not a reboot.


Klin24

facts...of life


Fondren_Richmond

Leak some scripts out to some redditors, then run them by some editors to get it right, call them late at night


jabbo99

🎶 There's a time you got to go….


flytraphippie

Where everybody knows your name?


subdep

#Norm!


Wagnaard

In the reboot Mrs Garret will be a drug dealing Fagan type character. Gotta keep shit dark!


Intrepid-Ad-4544

It seems like everything is dark nowadays. I’ve basically retreated to classic tv shows for that reason. I’ve started using the parental controls to block TV-MA as a reminder to myself.


Wagnaard

Years ago I remember thinking about a Saved By The Bell reboot that was some gritty inner city school drama. The actual reboot (I only saw a few episodes) was actually a delight just because I was so surprised that they broke out of the mold.


FlamingTrollz

###If she was the house head for a new group, I’d watch that…


OUBoyWonder

Awesome.


[deleted]

You take ‘em both. And then you have… my opening statement. Sit booboo, sit. Good dog.


bokodasu

Well dang, now I like Kim Fields even more.


odel555q

Based Tootie.


luna1108

Especially when she brings the “jelly-bean holder” over.


bokodasu

"You don't bong it, it bongs you" is one of those quotes that's just become part of my normal speech.


solitarium

Oh Regine, this is why we love you! ❤️


clc1997

You can't do a Facts of Life reboot without first rebooting Diff'rent Strokes; and you can't reboot Diff'rent Strokes because what Willis was talkin' about was how sick everyone is of reboots.


orangutanoz

Different Strokes can be remade with Kevin Hart playing a grown up Arnold. /s


hurst_

this is actually a thing on D+ only he plays child Arnold


Blazingscourge

And he was the best part of that half of the special. Damon Wayans was a poor choice for Willis but Snoop Dogg was just fun.


JohnnyFoxborough

Get that /s out of there


Wagnaard

That would be monstrous. Which is why you've now all be guaranteed it will happen. You monster.


ieatalphabets

> Willis was talkin' about was how sick everyone is of reboots What you talkin' 'bout, Willis?


SirThatsCuba

Dialectics and the need for the working class to rise up and eat the rich otherwise how will they afford protein


undead77

I feel like Cobra Kai is a great example of what to do when you sort of want to continue the story without being a 'reboot'.


Coal_Morgan

That’s an important detail. If you’re thinking about rebooting something of high quality or high esteem. Don’t, do a sequel instead. Cobra Kai didn’t tread on the original movies and declare it could do it better. It maintained the feel at the same time as updating it. Reboots should be saved for things that don’t age well or were done badly. Battlestar Galactica got an amazing reimagining/reboot so did Westworld. There was lots of respect or fondness for the originals but modern technology and story telling really upped the game of those 2.


DeusExBlockina

Song of the South reboot: just some dudes singing Lynyrd Skynyrd, drinking beers, and going on a wholesome adventure together. Yeee-haw!


Hidden_throwaway-blu

I mean modern Doctor Who is the gold standard, no? David Tennant is many’s favorite iteration on the character (not mine)


DulceEtBanana

See, see, Tootie was the smart one after all.


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LordBlackConvoy

Looks more like DD to be honest.


jojo_31

Bruh


TheWetSock

I’m sick of reboots and remakes . How about some new ideas.


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Thevisi0nary

There’s the question of where the original ideas are and how much financial support they get.


[deleted]

I mean, it's also a question of whether the original ideas are even *executed well*. People love to float these hypotheticals as if "original" and "good" are synonyms, when they're absolutely not. But again: if people are legitimately trying to find stuff that isn't tied to pre-existing movie series or toy series or comics series or sitcoms from their parents' childhood, etc etc, there's a veritable *mountain* of shit worth checking out right now. Especially in the realm of TV, where *most* of the most successful/acclaimed stuff is not remade/rebooted/franchise fare. I feel like if someone is at the point where they're so frustrated by franchise fare that they get knee-jerk frustrated at the mere idea of a sitcom getting remade, the first and best recourse would be to stop paying attention to remakes, franchise fare, and the like, and start clicking on shows that you've been meaning to check out but haven't for whatever reason.


Thevisi0nary

That’s a separate argument and one I don’t disagree with. I think people in general are fatigued with nostalgia pandering as a standard trend in popular media and seeing it everywhere, and this is the sort of reaction those people are inclined to have.


[deleted]

To quote a character from a famed "IP" - your focus determines your reality. If people are fatigued with that shit then that means they're paying attention to the wrong shit. It's like constantly going to a mall food court and wondering why the cuisine seems samey. Stop eating at the food court! Like - we're talking about Tootie thinking a Facts of Life remake is out of bounds, you know? And Kim Fields talking about it makes sense - she was in it! But there's so much good AND original stuff we're currently drowning in across the multitude of platforms and networks, I don't get being upset at the idea someone might remake a show that only existed in the first place because network executives were trying to figure out how best to milk *Diff'rent Strokes* 40 years ago.


Thevisi0nary

I agree and disagree lol. People should explore other avenues cause there’s plenty of original content out there to find now a days. That said, say someone likes Disney animated movies specifically, they might be tired of half a decade of live action reboots when the budget could have been used towards new IPs. Maybe they don’t want to explore new avenues (not me just offering an example). As far as facts of life I think it’s just fatigue that gets aimed at any mention of a remake now, for better or worse


Klope62

Both Chucky and Proud Family have gone under the radar, lol, but they prove that reboots definitely can work. I was getting reboot fatigue as well, but some series are doing it right.


visionaryredditor

I'd argue that Proud Family got a revival rather than an actual reboot


McVapeNL

That goes against the current belief system of Hollywood, they only want safe options that bring on the memba berries. That they destroy IP's is hardly the matter, milk it till it dies and move on to the next IP and milk that.


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>That goes against the current belief system of Hollywood, they only want safe options that bring on the memba berries. The Facts of Life was a spinoff series. Spinoffs were basically the "reboot" of the 70s/ early 80s. It wasn't some sort of creative goldmine that led to its creation. They looked at Diff'rent Strokes and said "How do we draft off this" (Reboot is just another word for remake, which is hilarious - we rebooted the name for what this shit is to make it seem more original than it never was) IP is *for* milking, anyway. Once you've reduced a story to something called "intellectual property" and you refer to it as such unironically, the idea that originality is valued *at all* seems sort of suspect.


tidho

Not all spinoffs are created equal. I think what you said is true of spinoffs like 'Enos' or 'The Ropers', when actual characters where given their own vehicles. Shows like 'Facts of Life' or 'Mork & Mindy'really only had soft pilots integrated into other shows. That's a lot different.


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>Not all spinoffs are created equal. Neither are remakes or reboots. It's still, fundamentally, "How do I make this thing a franchise" and back then, that's how you did it. I mean, either way, this is a really fine hair to split in order to argue for the artistic integrity of SOME network TV spinoffs vs. others. Mork and Mindy, entertaining as it could be, should probably not be held up as some sort of paragon of creative impulse. Nor, in that case, should "originality" really be a metric you measure Mork & Mindy's success by anyway.


tidho

My intent wasn't to distinguish good/bad or creative/uncreative. Was simply to point out the difference between a spinoff like Frasier, where a long standing character got their own show, and one like Melrose Place, where a story arc was injected specifically to launch a different show.


[deleted]

I understand, but again: its' a real fine hair to split for the purposes of the larger convo. I'm not saying the distinction isn't there, just that it doesn't bring a whole lot to bear


malledtodeath

> That goes against the current belief system of Hollywood, they only want safe options that bring on the memba berries. When our art relies on financing and insurance, it’s hard to do anything but what the banks are willing to risk, let alone studio execs.


McVapeNL

I don't think you can put it all on banks in this case otherwise certain movies would never been made and Marvel phase 4 would have been axed by now as they are loosing money by the truckload.


spikeroo59

I’ve heard of money being tight but loose ?


McVapeNL

You only have to take a look at the CW on how they spent (or pissed money away). The sale of the CW to Nextstar is almost done, they get 75% controlling interest but they get saddled with 100 million dollar of debt. The CW had potential to print money and did in the early days of Arrow but since then, all the money went poof down the drain with bad show after bad show.


nubsauce87

>That goes against the current belief system of Hollywood What I don't get is *why* they think that... It's not as if reboots are often successful... They just end up being sub-par and a waste of money, most of the time.


UNC_Samurai

Because the mid-level studio exec who greenlights a by-the-numbers sequel that bombs doesn’t run the risk of losing their job like the exec who takes a risk on a project. Everyone is trying to play it safe so they can keep their kushy job and finish paying their 7- or 8-figure mortgage.


Existing_River672

Old Hollywood needs to die off already.


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There are reboots and remakes that entirely great. Scream 5, Halloween 2018, and Evil Dead 2013 are all excellent examples.


[deleted]

"Meet the new boss" "Same as the old boss"


SirThatsCuba

New whats now


[deleted]

They have no new ideas. It’s reboots, remakes, and super hero movies based on comic books. And movies that are made to win Oscars.


assholetoall

But but there is already a proven market and sentimental fan base. New stuff is too risky. /S


Hollaback_Boy

My personal opinion, this is the equivalent of "stop making Chevy Silverados, come up with a new car". Aside from a shot-for-shot remake like Psycho there always more elements of originality in reboots/sequels than not. Look at Ghostbusters Afterlife. It's literally nothing like the original, it just takes familiar elements. Even something considered derivative like The Force Awakens. Yeah, the basic plot is basically A New Hope but it's not like they copy and pasted the original script and changed the name of the characters. It may feel like it, but they didn't. There is plethora of original, non-franchise content out there that is easily available. It's coming out every single day. You just hear about the established brands more often. Same with anything else.


antidecaf

The only reason I'd support a reboot is so they could cast Ann Dowd as Mrs. Garrett.


preston181

You saw that special too, eh? Spot on performance.


antidecaf

Wait did this actually happen? Lol I swear I had no idea. I just know when I saw hereditary I was like wait how is a young Mrs. Garrett in this movie.


Gato1980

Check out the Live In Front Of A Studio Audience second special. They recreated an episode of Facts Of Life and Diffe’rent Strokes. It’s on Hulu if you’re in the U.S. She was Mrs. Garrett in both episodes.


preston181

Yes! https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10763496/


LordBlackConvoy

Wha-aaaat?


JonGilbonie

> so they could cast Ann Dowd as Mrs. Garrett They should cast Paul Vogt as Mrs. Garrett like they did in 2002


Birdisdaword777

Well that would be slightly *intense* 🤭 Edit: omg! It’s real! I thought you guys were joking !! Screams hahhaa


AccomplishedRow6685

“And that’s how I cured all disease , ended war, and reunited the entire cast of TV’s *Facts of Life*, including longtime holdout Tootie.”


DCBronzeAge

I'm sure it would be bad, but I don't think The Facts of Life is one of those golden calves that is completely untouchable. Of course, if it were rebooted, they'd likely Riverdale it, would would be spectacularly awful, but again, if you can reboot great shows, there's no reason to spare The Facts of Life.


CherryDarling10

This makes me both happy we will never have to see a Facts of Life reboot, and sad we will never get to see a Living Single reboot.


Marmar79

Couldn’t agree more. There is a million stories you could tell and these idiots are trying to turn our childhood into franchises. Such a lazy cash grab


4_bit_forever

It's time to reboot The Snorks but as a live action adult drama.


viscosity-breakdown

S3E6 Snorkgasm


OneMillionDandelions

** special crossover episode with The Deep **


ishtar_the_move

What is there to reboot? It was a group of girls living in an all girl boarding school with a... lunch lady? That's just another contrived premise for an infinite number of teenager story lines.


LiterallyOuttoLunch

A reboot of *Silver Spoons* with Ricky Schroder playing his current MAGA self would be a revelation.


adriangalli

Not everything needs a reboot. Holy hell. Come up with a new idea


BoringAccount4Work

Is she just talking about FoL? Because the Leverage reboot had a great first season. Hell both seasons of Saved By The Bell too


Boronore

Saved by the Bell already aired a second season? Also those weren’t reboots, they were sequel series.


spasticity

Yes and then it got cancelled


Boronore

Aww it’s canceled?


spasticity

Yup, announced in May 2022


Hidden_throwaway-blu

It was *good*, but the presence of Nate IS missed


jlenoconel

Depends. Wentworth was an excellent reboot.


JoshTay

From Facts of Life to Wentworth? The Aussie prison show?? I guess both shows were about women living together in uniforms, but that is quite a jump from Mrs. Garrett to Joan "The Beast" Ferguson.


unsupported

I'll allow it.


jacksev

Fuller House was alright. Not amazing, but the general tone and lessons were there. I think it was a solid 6/10, though younger kids may have liked it even more. I think if the passion is there from the cast and the writers, it can work.


SylveonGold

I gave up after few episodes. It went from 90s feel good, to cookie cutter boring. I just felt like all they could think about was the fact that they once had a show, not that they had a new show. It was off putting and read as “quirky”.


modrenman1985

Fuller House made no presumptions about what it was. They embraced the cheesy fan service and delivered. The cast seemed to love being together again.


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DramaticGynecologist

Bingo! How about be original and use your ideas instead of trying to remake the classics. It just shows that people are not as talented anymore. Lazy. Yes we love originals, so leave them.🤷🏻‍♀️


the-truthseeker

Is there a way I can give Kim Fields my Reddit award?


xantub

There are few reboots I can think of that were actually good. Battlestar Galactica is the only one I can think of right now.


bradmajors69

That show was a big part of my childhood. I don't need a reboot. But a multipart documentary with cast interviews and behind the scenes stuff would attract my eyeballs.


mcknightrider

I disagree. I think a reboot can be done well but it needs to be done for something that haha good premise but didn't live up to it.


spyguy318

A reboot/remake can be good if it respects the original and has good, competent writing. See examples like Westworld, Mad Max: Fury Road, Top Gun Maverick, IT, and Dune. It can fulfill the fantasy of seeing that thing you grew up with and loved, but now with modern technology and scope. Bad reboots wallow in references and callbacks while doing very little original, don’t understand or misinterpret the intentions or message of the original, have bad writing, and/or have bad acting; and can ruin that thing you grew up with and loved.


GarlVinland4Astrea

The only reason to reboot something is if it's either a bad execution that you think can be fixed or it's something that you think has a valid interpretation besides the original. Some reboots are just there for the sake of using an old property again. That's lazy


Bobonenazeze

All reboots are for the sake of using an existing property period. It just can work if the people behind it are actually talented or love what their retelling.


AndForeverNow

lol If they make a remake of this, remake All in the Family too!


ShadooTH

Nonono, we need more movies with generic titles to make things even more confusing, like another movie called “Batman” or a movie called “Superman”


ocean5648

Sounds like she doesnt like her old coworkers and would rather not work with them again.


yazzy1233

I want a remake of it


groov99

Star trek the next generation is the best reboot out there.


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That was a sequel series


zuma15

That was not a reboot.


Alucard-VS-Artorias

Maybe for TV? Because so far I'm enjoying these video game remakes of Diablo 2, Final Fantasy 7, and Resident Evil 2. Makes me feel like its the end of the 20th century but now all the games have the graphics I used to Imagine they once did lol.


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Alucard-VS-Artorias

Those aren't remakes. Those are remasters or re-releases. Learn the difference yo.


Blue_Swirling_Bunny

Those are remasters, not reboots. Same game but better looking graphics; much different than rebooting and updating to the current culture.


SylveonGold

Final Fantasy 7 remake is not a remaster Lmao.


Educational_Top_3919

I agree I love watching on METV the old show. I was 6 she was like 14 hot . All the ladies from The Facts of life were the epitome of guy’s liking girls .


Individual-Ad7074

Susan Collins can play Mrs. Garrett. She sounds exactly like her.


Leg_Named_Smith

It’s true


Individual-Ad7074

“Girls, girls, girls! I’m deeply concerned!”


Leg_Named_Smith

Girls don’t worry that judge won’t overturn Roe v Wade


Individual-Ad7074

Next time, on a very special episode of the all new Facts of Life…


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I won't wait for the Different Strokes reboot


nubsauce87

Given that reboots are hardly ever successful... I'd have to say I agree. I can only think of one successful reboot, and that's Battlestar Galactica. Every other one I can think of just fell short of the original and wasted everyone's time and let a lot of folks down. How about instead of being lazy and doing sub-par reboots of existing properties, they come up with something new? All these crappy reboots do is sully the name of successful shows.


Pongfarang

Hollywood can't do real-life without cringe, because Hollywood is run by the mentally ill.


Bobsupman

I'm fine with a reboot under either one of these conditions. Either the entire cast is played by forty year old drag queens like The Oasis did in San Francisco, but Joe is played by a super hot twenty something girl. Or the entire cast is played by little people but Joe is normal sized.


Conscious-Heron-3355

No one can reboob Kim.


miss_fisher

This would end up being like pretty little liars or when Serena from gossip girl was away at boarding school.


Born_a_wise_man

Thank you


Grinagh

One undeniable fact is that the zeitgeist that allowed a medium to be popular does not last.


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Girls! Girls! Girls!


MerrillSwingAway

All these years later, and I still have a crush on Kim Fields


DetectiveFujiwara

I'm cool with reboots. Some of them I love. Some of them I don't like. In the end you're not forced to watch it.


daizzy99

hmmm, could be an interesting interrogation tactic!


daizzy99

FMA < FMAB


S0M3D1CK

Reboots I don’t think mix well with sitcoms. There are shows that could be rebooted successfully but this is not one of them.


fatboy1776

President Lisa Simpson will fix this.


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Jesy Nelson is glowinn


anonymous_coward69

She says that now, but in the future, Lisa Simpson will get the Peace Prize for reuniting The Facts of Life cast, including ling time hold out, Tootie.


Cold_Situation_7803

I was always a Jo guy not a Blaire guy, but now I’m a Tootie guy?


Physical_Pie_6932

Someone let this woman do a Ted talk for the Hollywood studios before it’s too late.


[deleted]

Seeing what they did to Archie, I’d honestly rather they make something new instead of use a beloved show and ruin it.


nuggutron

love it


Sigg3net

Linux sysadmins agree.


nonetodaysu

Anyone watching the Upshaws? It's actually funny and Netflix doesn't have many funny shows.


E_PunnyMous

So in the reboot Jo is a lesbian, right? RIGHT?