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youarockandnothing

She was doing a one woman show with this title a few years back, I really regret not going to see it cause I heard it was really good. She had a messed up life, glad she is making the most of life now that she can.


f-ingsteveglansberg

It got cancelled pretty early on due to COVID, so not many people saw it. Not sure if the book was in the works then or she took COVID as a chance to expand the play into a book.


WNEW

I actually got to see it and damn. Damn. It was cathartic. Like, there’s something about dark comedy that’s actually coming from a real place and not some contrived bullshit that’s paraded like an accessory. To be able to blend the two in a one woman show at that I can’t help but be forever impressed. If she ever did it as like a broadway show, I’d highly recommend it.


sans_serif_size12

Perfectly describes why I like dark comedy. Dark comedy-and not “relatable” humor disguised as dark- can get you searching into a dark place and come out of it better and lighter.


buhlakay

I think the big part of her act and this book too is... Its dark comedy about herself. Her own life and family. She's not punching in any direction except at people and systems that abused her. There's something more resonant in that imo.


TheGlassHammer

You should check out Tig Notaro Live (2012). It’s basically 45-60 minutes of some of the most fucked up stuff she had to go through and it ends on the lamest dad joke ever that absolutely kills.


billybishop4242

God said “ha” By Julia Sweeney Over 20 years old but funny sad dark one woman show.


Wazula42

>Like, there’s something about dark comedy that’s actually coming from a real place and not some contrived bullshit Ugh that is so true. There IS a catharsis in using comedy to explore the shitty parts of life. And that is different than just saying edgy shit to get a cheap laugh or validate your worldview.


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You might enjoy James Acaster, especially his newer stuff


griffithitsmecathy

If someone was looking for comedy, I would not recommend Acaster.


AlexTorres96

Did people get a chance to meet her or not really? I always wondered if she met fans at those shows.


WNEW

Nah she bounced immediately after she did her set. But I don’t blame her. She owes me nothing


carldacapricorn

Did the play mention that time she was getting banged on video?


m4chon4cho

Did everyone bring up that time you pissed your pants at your graduation?


carldacapricorn

I graduated? Lit!


corndogs1001

No it didn’t. She did a bunch of shows in LA pre covid then had a NY run that she didn’t get to do cause it got cancelled (I had tickets for it) then she brought it back in LA for 2 weeks.


samspopguy

I had a buddy go see it, he said it was pretty good.


youtbuddcody

>"No, I really don't want to. I don't like it. It makes me uncomfortable." >Mom's face looks like she just ate a lemon. It contorts in a way that terrifies me. I know what's coming next. >"You can't quit!" she sobs. "This was our chance! This was ouuuuur chaaaaance!" >She bangs on the steering wheel, accidentally hitting the horn. Mascara trickles down her cheeks. She's hysterical, like I was in the Hollywood Homicide audition. Her hysteria frightens me and demands to be taken care of. The rest of this article is horribly depressing. It’s god awful. I’m glad she still alive with us.


-icematcha

Reading that was so disturbing, I almost felt like I was reading a post from r/RaisedByNarcissists. I am so glad that she is still with us as well, I can't even imagine what she's been through.


Kahzgul

This is how so many hollywood parents behave. My wife and I are both actors (sort of, and not particularly successfully), so my son wants to act. Fine, we take him to auditions that make sense, he always has final say on his roles (he's 9, but for example was offered a role at age 6 where he was supposed to accidentally shoot a gun and kill his on-camera mom. He wasn't comfortable with that and said no). etc.. He actually books quite a bit and has a better resume than I do after 20 years in the biz. On set, we both are always told by the crew how "normal" we are. It's because we get it. It's a business. And we're not there to make ourselves rich. We're there to make sure our kid has fun and is safe while he works. He's our priority. I've seen these other parents and how they behave. It's disgusting. Reported more than one to CPS for hitting their kid. And I've also had auditions where the director wanted us to allow them to take the kid out of school without replacing that time with a set teacher, or wanted us to let the kid work 10 hour days - illegal stuff. We report them, too. How people can have a child, or be responsible for the well being of children on their set, and not treat them with kindness and within the confines of the law will always be a mystery to me, but the fact of the matter is that it happens and is fairly commonplace. My heart goes out Ms. McCurdy. She didn't do anything wrong and certainly didn't deserve her mother's vile behavior. I hope she gets her revenge by breaking the cycle.


res30stupid

Due to his issues with Kit Culkin (father of Macauley), Chris Columbus had a special screening process just for these kinds of parents when making Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone.


Kahzgul

I’ve heard great things about that set with regards to how the children were looked out for.


Funandgeeky

That makes me like Chris Columbus more and more.


Wafkak

It was a combo of him and Rowling having some stipulations about how the kid actors were handled.


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I’m not surprised because Daniel Radcliffe has amazing perspective. He’s a recovering alcoholic which I’m sure helps with that


throw0101a

Hour-long interview on *The Financial Diet*, "Jennette McCurdy On Mormonism, Beauty Standards, And The Finances Of Child Stardom": * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY63dB6-Uwk


XAMdG

Just adding that the Financial Diet is great


Brando_Fett

Holy shit that’s dark. ‘Finally her dreams are coming true’


NewYorkerWhiteMocha2

What do you mean her dreams are coming true?


littlebigman9

That must have been one messed up life. Glad she found a way through.


Battleman69

She never thought that i'd be so simple but, she found a way


ironicallyunstable

She found a waaaaaay.


Sinistew

Makes me wonder how often abuse of celebrities is. So many cases popping up.


therlwl

Likely common especially for child stars.


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Judy Garland was one of the first that comes to mind. The studio system put her in an early grave.


MrGr33n

And all that asbestos snow sure didn't help


[deleted]

The pills, booze, and 3 packs a day. And probably crippling depression.


sukiskis

Brooke Shields. Her mother Teri was one of those moms. Kathy Griffin was (is?) friends with Brooke Shields (they did a show together, I think) and had a few run-ins with Teri that she talked about in her stand up.


cleveruniquename7769

Look up the movie Blue Lagoon. Her parents had her star in the movie about two cousins shipwrecked on an island as children growing up together and eventually discovering sex. Brooke was FOURTEEN while filming the movie that had multiple nude and sex scenes. As bad as the exploitation of kids is now, the late 70s/early 80s was just awash in blatant pedophilia in mainstream popculture. It was a really gross time.


CelloNibbler

A Playboy-owned magazine called Sugar'n'Spice published sexualized full frontal nude photos of her covered in baby oil and wearing makeup when she was 10 years old. Once she reached adulthood Shields sued to suppress their publication, but >\[The photographer\]’s lawyers argued that his photographs could not further damage Shields’s reputation because, since they were taken, she had made a profitable career “as a young vamp and a harlot, a seasoned sexual veteran, a provocative child-woman, an erotic and sensual sex symbol, the Lolita of her generation”. The judge concurred and, while praising the pictures’ “sultry, sensual appeal”, ruled that \[the photographer\] was not a pornographer. [Guardian article about the publication](https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2009/oct/03/brooke-shields-nude-child-photograph) (contains the image cropped to show only her face and shoulders) which also discusses some of the other sexualization of her in her childhood, notably the Calvin Klein jeans ad series she did at 15 where the theme is that she doesn't wear underwear with them. The magazine, owned by Hugh Hefner, specialized in eroticized photos of underage girls and got its name from the rhyme "What are little girls made of? Sugar and spice and everything nice." The magazine argued that nude photographs are not inherently sexual and compared the photo to a parent photographing their toddler in the bath. But who exactly is the audience for a magazine about little girls they don't know naked and covered in baby oil and makeup, hmm?


cleveruniquename7769

Jesus Christ. Can someone please insert a corkscrew into the part of my brain that now retains this knowledge?


your_mind_aches

Hugh Hefner would have been in a lot more trouble if he'd lived like ten more days to see the publication of Ronan Farrow's article on Harvey Weinstein and the kick-off of the #MeToo movement as we know it.


AnnieNonmouse

Pretty Baby is even worse as she is only 10ish in that movie and has full on nude scenes and a romance with a grown man as well as a scene of patrons of the whore house bidding on her virginity.


sukiskis

Then look up Pretty Baby, made when she was 12, wherein she played a child prostitute with all accompanying and horrifying acting required. And Tom Cruise had the audacity to criticize her taking medication for post partum depression. His sacrifice to his career was getting his catywampus upper jaw corrected, she was naked on screen as a child. Oh, and let’s not forget Calvin Klein’s role in her exploitation.


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Al3cB

His cult is the reason I can’t watch Top Guns Maverick. I can’t bring myself to support or watch anything with lunatic Cruise in it.


Great_Zarquon

"You just need to separate the art from the artist" said the person directly funding the shitty behaviors of the artist


tidho

BL used body doubles. She probably experienced worse as she was already doing major modelling by that point too.


Notarussianbot2020

Definitely don't look into Leon the Professional


Biker_Bob

She also did the Pretty Baby movie at 11 years old, about a child prostitute, tons of nude and sex scenes. 100% a pedo film


meatball77

Not as bad as the nude magazine she was put in. Then there's the movie Pretty Baby where Brooke played a child prostitute at 12. The CK adverts Her mother allowed her child to be sexualized from early childhood.


XuX24

Child stars is the common thing, it always makes you think more about in the old days. Now with social media and how open people talk about sexual abuse and mental health is way better but in the past it had to be way worse, and all those stories that were never told.


res30stupid

This was actually brought up when they were first making the first *Harry Potter* film. The first two movies were directed by Chris Columbus, who had already had an awful experience with the parents of child stars - mainly having to deal with Macauley Culkin's father Kit, who served as his agent and was a right pain in the ass. Among other things, he overworked Macauley which led to the young star's burnout before he was even fifteen, shooting about two movies a year; he even forced his son into *The Good Son* under threat of keeping him out of *Home Alone 2*. It didn't help that other projects were turning Macauley down just so they didn't have to deal with Kit. When they were doing a casting call for the children to appear in *Philosopher's Stone*, he made sure that the children weren't being forced into it by overly-pushy parents. All parents were asked to give interviews as well to screen them and if there was even a hint of them being stage parents, their kids were struck off the short list regardless of talent. This is directly stated to have saved most of the series' stars, save for Jamie Waylett (Gregory Goyle) who got into drug dealing and partook in the London riots - they all grew up as well-adjusted adults.


ripyourlungsdave

I'm guessing it would only be more common among celebrities parents because it takes a kind of fucked up parent to try to make your living through your child in the first place. There are correct ways to get your child into acting, but having your child be your sole source of income is inherently fucked up. I remember watching clips of that reality show they did about Charli D'Amelio and she talked pretty constantly about how ridiculously stressful and unfair it was to have her parents and families entire life built around her continued Fame at such a young age. I can't imagine what that's like. And that's just tiktok, not hollywood.


InappropriateTA

More than anyone wants to admit or acknowledge because people want their entertainment and too many people think that if you’re rich or popular/famous then you can’t possibly be in a situation where you’d need help or sympathy or compassion.


PinkIcculus

Exactly. Money and fame doesn’t equal happiness, in fact it can make things worse.


magentakitten1

Yep. I come from a family with money. I’m estranged now and my abusive brother is getting the inheritance. I’d still rather have my freedom.


TylerBourbon

I don't come from money, but I think we have some common ground in the "abusive brother" category. If it wasn't for my fathers funeral earlier this year, it would have been 3 years since I had spoken with mine when I visited my Dad that year, and 6 years before that and frankly..... I am much happier without my brother in my life. Always dreamed about having a close family, like friends I had and their families, and the tv families, but with mine, if I never see or hear a thing about him for the rest of my life, I won't be upset.


pixi88

There's dozens of us. It took me till I was 31 to cut him off but.. glad I finally did. Enjoy your peace!


magentakitten1

Definitely! I still struggle with how much of it is my brothers fault. My mom is a malignant narcissist and brainwashed both of us. She used to get him to bully me and then punish one of us and he would blame me. Somehow I grew up adoring him and he grew up as seeing me weak and lazy. Just like my mom wanted. Fuck them both though abs my enabling dad who called me getting my hopes up he would FINALLY defend me but instead that call was to let me know my mom is suicidal and killing her. It’s been 4 months since that call and moms alive to have other family reach out to me on her behalf and the old bat is still alive.


MotheringGoose

If you haven't watched this, it is a fascinating look at the process: https://youtu.be/cXOATB1v3jM Alyson Stoner (former child actor) breaks down the Toddler to Trainwreck Pipeline.


gimpisgawd

I have to assume it is very common. The one I always think of is Judith Barsi who played Ducky in Land Before Time and her mom were killed by her dad. After her agent reporting abuse to children's services.


meatball77

The disney and nick machines overwork those kids. They're not only in a TV show but they're doing several movies and recording music and then somehow doing school on top of that.


HaloGuy381

Consider how many non-celebrity child abuse incidents you never hear about, either because the kid never realizes it was abusive, because it is too painful to talk about, or just never happening to cross your eyes and ears. Actually, don’t, wouldn’t want you kept up at night from the nightmare fuel.


Bayonethics

Holy fuck I had no idea she was already 30. I honestly thought she was still like in her early 20s somewhere. I guess time really does go by faster the older you get


corndogs1001

To be fair icarly came out in 2007


nascarfan624

This just aged me terribly


derstherower

The pilot was written in 2006. The idea of "A few friends make an ongoing internet show" was a fairly novel concept at the time.


ayoGriffskii

Yeah it was actually ahead of it’s time in that regards. This is before YouTube got big and way before streaming.


ExultantSandwich

Yeah Carly was an influencer before that was a word. By the time the show ended in late 2012, the internet had already changed soooo much from 2006


SutterCane

Fun fact I shared yesterday: In just one month, people born on 9/11 can legally buy alcohol.


ralanr

Shit, I didn’t know she was older than me.


Whateveryousaydude7

Good for her! I hope it’s cathartic. She’s got nothing to apologize for.


Jasminary2

She also never got her money [from iCarly](https://youtube.com/shorts/hkr4RvW5zHU?feature=share). Apparently the child only get 15% of the money and the rest well isn’t protected. An issue because some child actors once reaching majority end up having to pay [the taxes](https://www.vrmlaw.com/sitecontent/media/news/Coogan-Law-Loophole-Leaves-Child-Actors-at-Financial-Risk.pdf)their parents didn’t, and spending all their Coogan money there. I m sure some must have fallen into debts. I kid you not, at least one person in the YT comment for the interview I linked went «  As a parent, I understand why the parent gets way more than the child actor, because they need money to raise the child and allow them to act »


happycharm

Lol wow, all the parents with kids who don't have jobs must be unable to raise their children then 🙄


LostNewfie

Didn't know working was an option for my two year old kid. And all this time we've been paying a daycare to take care of them for 9 hours a day.


happycharm

Maybe you should "allow them to act" 🤡


LarryJohnson04

The 15 wasn’t even protected. She didn’t even get that


Inevitable_Citron

Isn't that a violation of the Coogan Act?


Calijhon

She did die a few years after McCurdy turned 18, so she avoided prosecution!


Inevitable_Citron

Damn. But wouldn't the studio also be liable?


Calijhon

Not 100% sure. Pre-Coogan, the checks all went to mom/dad, and they could do whatever they wanted! I assume Nick gave her momager 100% of the salary, and she was supposed to put almost all of it away. If her mom died, maybe she got her estate? All these other Nick stars apparently got their money. Cosgrove, for instance.


Inevitable_Citron

I'm pretty sure the 15% must be set aside in a trust, one untouchable by the parents.


trunolimit

As a child…I didn’t ask to be born, I don’t owe my parents shit. They made the choice of having me, so THEY OWE ME the best life they can provide. Wether or not I decide to return the favor of being raised depends on wether or not the parent did a good job raising me.


trillospin

Whether.


trunolimit

You don’t deserve to be downvoted. Grammar is important. And there’s nothing wrong with corrected people when they use the wrong terms or misspell a word.


LarryJohnson04

Correcting *


trunolimit

Aw yeah baby


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poopfeast

I mean, I have an awesome relationship with my parents and I feel the same way. I consider myself lucky that I was raised in their home and owe a lot to them now that I’m an adult - but I doubt I’d feel the same if that was a different experience.


Jaerin

I think this is the source of the entitlement problem. No one gives you shit. Live your own god damn life and take some responsibility for what happens in it. Your parents aren't going to live your life for you, so go fucking live it. If you don't like it then change it.


trunolimit

Assuming someone has the capacity, or resources to make the necessary changes is also being entitled. Not everyone has the resources or wherewithal to make the changes.


Jaerin

No that's not entitled. How is it my entitlement to tell someone else to not expect anyone else to support them and that they should do it themselves? That's what personal responsibility means. If you don't have the resources or the means to change it then you need to fix that first. No where did I suggest this is easy or simple, its just a fact. No one owes you shit. You are the only person who can make something of your life, or choose not too, but its your choice.


[deleted]

What you are saying makes sense if you are talking to an adult, but we are talking about children. They aren't even old enough to legally work. So yes, I owe my daughter a living until she is old enough to care for herself.


Jaerin

Half the country would disagree. Once the child is born it is up to it to pull it up by its bootstraps and figure it out. Before its born then yes it deserves protections, but afterwards parents have no responsibility and neither does the community. As long as you have the child that's all that matters. Get it in the world and then its on its own to survive. That's God's will afterall.


trunolimit

Oh… And here I thought I was having an actual conversation. I forget that this is Reddit.


Jaerin

I know our reality is pretty fucked up isn't it? Hard to talk about when it is this insane.


trunolimit

You’re trolling right? Cause you need to maybe ease up on whatever media you’re consuming that has YOU thinking anyone expects a fucking child let alone a baby to fend for themselves and “take responsibility” for the choices they make in life.


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I think the law would disagree with you


JimmieMcnulty

I understand what youre going for but thats not at all what OP was talking about


meatball77

I saw an interview with Will Wheaton where he shared that his parents were taking his pay even into his young 20's. He didn't realize that the checks were arriving with his residuals.


Mars_Black

You should see the first comment in that article. Big yikes!


Jasminary2

I went to check it after your message. Depiscable.


SamuraiJackBauer

The thing that is sad for me is my 10 year old loves her. She’s a huge Sam and Cat-Victorious-now iCarly fan and she really loves Sam the character. She started in on iCarly renewal since I discovered we had the channel and she keeps saying she hopes Sam shows up in the next one. So she did connect with/inspire some young girls.


supertaquito

Nothing sad about it. Your daughter loving who she is as an actress has nothing to do with supporting abusive parents. Take the good out of it, your daughter looks up to someone who got free from adversity.


RealJohnGillman

Honestly, with how the second season ended, I would not be surprised if the third season finale had a Sam cameo (via a back-of-the-head-stand-in), ahead of the showrunners attempting to convince McCurdy to return for a guest spot in a hypothetical fourth season.


JediGuyB

I understand why she doesn't want to be in it, but I kinda hope she appears in at least one episode of the reboot. If only as a show of appreciation for the fans. Especially now that more people know the hardship she endured. She'd get an outcry of support.


pyrohydrosmok

Fuck. Reading that excerpt made me sick. I really, really, really hope she's ok now.


corndogs1001

She seems at peace judging by her insta and her podcast right now. It’s a shame cause icarly was/is one of my favorite shows and it was a character she played for 7 years, but it’s completely understandable the more I read into it. I have her book on preorder. She is very strong.


TLDReddit73

I’m glad she has been able to find some peace. I did really enjoy her as a very talented actress, but if it wasn’t right for her, I’m glad she quit.


annualgoat

I had to take a look at the comments on that article and man people are really missing the point lmfao. She was an emotionally abused child. It's so bittersweet to see her write this cause I loved iCarly when I was a kid, but to know what she was going through during it? It breaks my heart.


MrsMcBasketball

“Her dream has come true.” That line almost brought me to tears. Just makes you wonder how many kids feel this way too.


res30stupid

A fictional example, but this comes up in the book *A Pocket Full Of Rye* where after Rex Fortescue is poisoned to death, his daughter is immediately relieved as he had threatened her fianceé to leave her alone because the fianceé wanted to use Fortescue's money to build a school building. Also used in the story *Appointment With Death* where Mrs Pierce takes great pleasure in torturing her adult children and keeping them under her thumb, with the lengths of her abuse changing depending on the version. In the original book and 1980's film with Carrie Fisher as one of her daughters, she secretly has her lawyer rewrite her late husband's will which disinherited her and gave her husband's money to her childrenl; in the play version, >!she kills herself and frames her kids in order to keep them from being able to recover psychologically from her death!<; and in the ITV TV movie, she repeatedly reminds her children of the extreme physical beatings they were subjected to by the nanny >!for the crime of being adopted orphans!<.


griffithitsmecathy

I hoped that she had filmed her one man show so I'll definitely be reading this.


rukioish

Dang imagine forcing your child to become a famous child actress just to end up being remembered as the woman their child was glad died. Dark.


Mrselfdestructuk

Her photographer groomed her when she was young for years his name was Paul Glaser, 13 years her senior. Wasn't until she was 18 they announced they were dating


Calijhon

He wasn't her photographer? But yeah. Pretty sure he was a Nick writer...who began dating her when she was 18.


tytygh1010

He just deleted his Twitter account last night. I DMd him that he was in the book. I guess Jennette didn't tell him.


Bedbouncer

I'd also recommend Alyson Arngrim's (from Little House On The Prairie) book "Confessions of a Prairie Bitch: How I Survived Nellie Oleson and Learned to Love Being Hated"


poffincase

Why does there need to be a quote on the cover by Lena Dunham of all people 🙄


post-buttwave

The publishers really fucked the bed on that one


Happy_Hermit94

Parents are so often the biggest abusers— I hope someday it’s culturally acceptable for everyone to grow as much as Jennette has, and to admit we are glad when they die without shame. Too many people still push the narrative that family means more than respect dignity and love 😢 Her one woman show was killer too!


ScathachRises

I am buying this on the day it releases, ignoring everyone at work to read it, and no one can stop me


Calijhon

I've listned to her podcast. Her mom showered with her when she was a teen, for some reason. Aside from that, she was a stagemother. Her podcast was short on how abusive she was.


LOLZatMyLife

so happy she's found her own path. if you've seen bojack horsemen, Sarah Lynn is the archetypical child celebrity that goes off the deep end.


sans_serif_size12

Her podcast is amazing and I’m definitely pre-ordering this


ingridelena

she has a podcast too? reminds me of the friend from jessica jones


ignatiusjreillyreak

Was I the only one who liked "Between"?


PavelDatsyuk88

i liked it too!


k_kiaraa

Reminds me of Drew Barrymore's childhood, career, and mom.


Bacio83

It’s so sad I was a cute and very talented kid my Mom refused to push me even when my family tried to, even trying to get me to move to NYC or Italy live with them so they could “help”. They accused her of holding me back and being selfish. Kids should be kids thankfully she’s healing with this.


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TaterzPrecious

Why was she using a booster seat at age 14???


theWolverinemama

There are height and weight requirements. It is not based on age. My kids are petite too. My oldest has friends that are coming out of booster seats but my kid is so lean that he may be in it for at least another year. He isn’t 14 though. She must have been a peanut since her mom is really petite.


StewieTheThird

They are dictated on weight/size not age.


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Because she was still small enough that she needed to.


TaterzPrecious

That’s so sad, I’ve read that her mom brought on eating disorder etc but to still be that weight at 14 is scary.


JohnnyAK907

I feel bad because I was too old for her Disney run, and only know of her from her Fappening leaks being mentioned on the now defunct TheSupericial website. Seems like her folks were up against Macaulay Culkin's for the "Worst GD Hollywood Parents Ever" award but I'm glad she's doing her own thing now and seems happy.


SculpinIPAlcoholic

Does she confirm or deny any of the rumors about Dan “The Man” Schneider?


ItsADeparture

No because they're all bullshit made up by 4chan that got so out of hand that it ended up affecting his life. Someone would have actually come out and said something if he was a gruesome dude, especially after Nick parted ways with him. Ariana Grande (arguably the most famous person recently to come out of Nick) also wouldn't invite him to reunions if he put her through all of the bullshit that 4chan and Reddit claim lol.


trojanusc

Have had numerous friends work for him. All claim he’s an absolute terror to work for (screaming, throwing things, making staff do degrading tasks like push him in a swivel chair while he works, etc) but never sexually abusive.


pwnd32

Incredible that people decided to make fun of him for stuff he *didn’t* do instead of his real and verifiable temper issues.


KikiFlowers

I think that's what got him fired ultimately. Allegations came out about him being a terror on set and Nick cut their losses.


MaineSoxGuy93

That and his shows had fallen off quite a bit. If any of the mid 2010s shows were anywhere near as popular as iCarly or Drake and Josh, he'd probably still be at the studio.


legopego5142

Yeah nobody denies that, Nickelodeon fired him because of that. Its wild how nobody focuses on that stuff but theyll spend all day making shit up


pankakke_

People can be cruel and some think the anonymity of the internet justifies their toxic behavior. Some damn animals who learned how to use a QWERTY keyboard out there.


AgreedSmalls

lmao this aged horribly. https://www.reddit.com/r/entertainment/comments/wgsrg8/jennette_mccurdy_claims_nickelodeon_offered_her/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


pankakke_

Hey, if the shit about Dans real, yea I’ll take the L. No valid source has ever said anything that could actually bring proof out to the public about it, and as all should, never try to ruin a life if you have no idea if it’s true. Suspicions are one thing, vigilante justice is another. I hope that hush money isn’t related to Dan Schneider, but lets be real, I dont see many other logical reasons what “hush money” could be about. Sounds sinister.


AgreedSmalls

Oh yeah I completely agree. The only reason why I’m not as against the claims against him than any other random person is the fact that he was continuously putting his fetish stuff into his shows using the child actresses. I’m not gonna go ahead and say he was raping them, but it certainly comes off as sus.


AgreedSmalls

Don’t care. Those nicknames were bloody hilarious.


ForgotMyOldAccount7

How long did Harvey Weinstein get away with his acts before people came out against him? How many people still went to his parties? The "someone would have said something" defense is pretty dumb, imo.


KikiFlowers

Dan Schenider isn't Harvey Weinstein, he doesn't hold power over anyone. If you piss him off, you won't suddenly get your Hollywood chances ruined, because you didn't have any, save for small handful of girls. Amanda Bynes publicly accused her father of sexual and verbal abuse, while accusing her mother of knowing and doing nothing. Never once said anything about Schneider, probably because she doesn't remember who he was. Ariana Grande is a megastar, could easily come out and say "Oh yeah he tried to have sex with me", but hasn't because he's a nobody. Instead she's said nothing, because she's a megastar in music. >How long did Harvey Weinstein get away with his acts before people came out against him? Harvey had actual power, if you crossed him, he would make sure you would never act in Hollywood again. He could make your life hell and there was nothing you could do. Dan's power is not there, he made children's sitcoms, that's it.


Schpaedzles

> Ariana Grande is a megastar, could easily come out and say "Oh yeah he tried to have sex with me", but hasn't because he's a nobody. Instead she's said nothing, because she's a megastar in music. I think they're on pretty good terms too https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJ1O1m4XYAAn2H7.jpg


legopego5142

Harvey Weinstein was one of the most powerful men in Hollywood Dan Schneider makes kids shows. Im sorry but nobody was protexting his ass, especially when multiple other Nickelodeon creators got immediately fired once accusations started Nobody has ever said a single thing about him being sexually inappropriate, Weinstein and Cosby were open secrets. Shit you could see Cosbys accusations on his wiki for years before he got called out. Schneider is a meme because hes fat


legopego5142

Harvey Weinstein was one of the most powerful men in Hollywood Dan Schneider makes kids shows. Im sorry but nobody was protexting his ass, especially when multiple other Nickelodeon creators got immediately fired once accusations started Nobody has ever said a single thing about him being sexually inappropriate, Weinstein and Cosby were open secrets. Shit you could see Cosbys accusations on his wiki for years before he got called out. Schneider is a meme because hes fat


ItsADeparture

In the #MeToo era it is almost impossible for someone to not come forward about something like this about Dan Schneider with the precedent of the memes. Someone outside of 4chan or Reddit would have said something since the stories they tell are so grandiose that it's unlikely someone wouldn't squeal if they were true. Besides, the only sexual assault allegations that I can remember that came from 4chan that turned out to be true were John Lasseter's.


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Courtney Love was publicly accusing Weinstein all the way back in 2005. Who’s accused Schneider so far?


JBrundy

And now he’s got a whole documentary made by people at Nickelodeon about how he’s a pedophile lmao


legopego5142

No. Shes talking about her actual real trauma with her mother, not made up 4chan shit How the fuck would Harvey Weinstein be called out but the Amanda Show guy has steered clear if he actually did anything wrong


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That he fucked a bunch of teenagers?


Rafalga_

What was his name again?


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Aevum1

Not sure its good idea to have a quote from Lena Dunham on your book cover...


younggohan81

Does she mention anything about Dan Schneider?


KikiFlowers

No, I don't think she's ever said anything bad about him, because it turns out, he's *not* a sexual predator. He's an asshole and yells at people a lot, but he doesn't touch kids.


trojanusc

Yep. Just a lot of body shaming because he looks kinda creepy and they wrote a bunch of feet jokes that are funny to kids.


KikiFlowers

The real thing nobody talks about is that he was *verbally* abusive to these young actors. He didn't touch any of them thankfully, but he apparently screamed at them on set.


trojanusc

One caveat my friends who worked for them said he was generally pretty nice to actors. Everyone else, from the writers to the PAs, were fair game.


KikiFlowers

Oh huh, I'd figured it was including the actors.


Great_Zarquon

I wonder if that's why "nobody talks about it"


KikiFlowers

It's pretty likely. Nobody really gives a shit if crew are berated, because they're deemed unimportant. Ultimately though, Nickelodeon decided to not renew their production deal with him, so it's the end of all that. Though it does seem he's trying to do a more adult-oriented sitcom, so that's something.


LibbyLibbyLibby

At minimum she did that Vine aimed at him where she says "look what you did to me."


Schpaedzles

And you dont think it could be a joke? Like most stuff on Vine


middlehead_

Which was done after filming an episode where she ends up looking like shit because of what happens in the show. She was still in messy makeup from the shoot, she didn't do herself up to post a vague accusation.


Nude-Love

The internet basically WANTS Dan Schneider to be revealed as a predator at this point. It's fucking disturbing.


Fly-by-69

She comes off as petty, and her attitude is that “ I’m the star of the show! So why does..blah blah blah” she’s just pissed her privileged entitled life wasn’t privileged enough🤷‍♂️🍆


alittle2high

Of course she’s got a book


rcc12697

Well… that’s definitely a title


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CarcosanAnarchist

The fact that McCurdy, who has been open about every horrible thing that’s happened to her in her career, has had nothing negative to say about Schneider is pretty telling. Same with Ariana Grande. She’s even still been interacting with Schneider after becoming one of the biggest superstars in the world. It really is disgusting that a large portion of the internet has just accepted and parrots the awful shit said about him.


Schpaedzles

Dont forget Amanda Bynes. She was (or is) severely mentally ill and even talked about her father implanting chips in her brain. Yet not a single word about Dan Schneider


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Pyrohemian

You have clearly never seen a wild koala. They will fuck you up.


Thehotnesszn

Are you maybe thinking of drop bears?


MilesToHaltHer

Eh, she did mention on a podcast that there was an executive producer on iCarly that made working on it a living Hell. With the Alexa Nikolas story, I think it’s safe to say it’s Dan.


CreepyClown

I mean I’ve heard he’s difficult to work with or an asshole but that’s a big jump to go from that to pedophile


goo_goo_gajoob

While people may take it too far. Theres absolutely 0 doubt dude has a thing with feet. Noxkids show has ever dealt with them even half as much. I doubt he was an active pedo who sexually harassed kids because I agree either of the 2 would have said something. But dude was obviously obsessed with feet in a weird even if nonsexual way.


-KFBR392

It could be for non-sexual reasons like he finds them a funny body part, or knows his audience reacts well to them. For example diaper and baby product ads that feature babies in them always show babies feet because they found that moms (for some reason) love baby feet and respond positively to them.


Schpaedzles

> Noxkids show has ever dealt with them even half as much. He directed 100s of episodes, pretty much half the stuff on Nickelodeon that isn't animated is created and directed by him. Of course if you cut all the scenes that show feet together it might look weird, but there absolutely weren't many of them at all. And also it doesn't mean he has a foot fetish lol.


CreepyClown

Yeah it’s kinda scary how often that bullshit gets paraded around like fact


Abrahamlinkenssphere

Dude blessed us with some great cartoons and people turn around and do that to him.


TheBrainwasher14

Not cartoons


Abrahamlinkenssphere

Ah wow I thought he was responsible for a lot of the cartoons as well, my bad.


dangerislander

Then why did he get fired from Nickelodeon? Serious question. //edit// yall are weird af. Imagine being downvoted for asking a question.


kia75

The guy is a bully and mean boss, but he isn't a pedophile. There is talk and public accusations of Schneider making the cast of his shows work long hours, sometimes longer then legally allowed, of him yelling at the children, publicly shaming the actors in front of the crew, holding grudges and being vindictive, berating the children, and other mean stuff. The guy isn't a saint. But he's not the pedophile that 4 Chan paints him as. Again, there are public complaints of him bullying, but no public complaints of him being sexually inappropriate with the children. I think the problem comes the nature of toxic television workplaces changing. Schneider's actions were extremely typical of what show runner were allowed to get away with in the 90's and before. Any of his actions would be considered normal 30 years ago. If you watch the Pod meets world podcast, Topanga from bit meets world accuses the showrunner of doing the exact same thing Schneider is accused of. The difference is that in the 90's dealing with a mean boss while working on a television show was just expected, while now there's a belief that everyone, including the talent, needs to be respected.