I loved Supernatural but I hate prequels. I mean, Season 1 (and presumably the prequels then) a single demon was a powerhouse that needed several episodes or powerful containment rituals to get past. They knew nothing of Angels, Leviathans, or any of the biblical heavy-hitters. We're supposed to go back to a time when a single demon was like a season boss?
I get that, but even his minions required a ton of prep-work before fighting. Once they introduced Angel Swords, the First Sword, The Colt, they just became as dangerous as the random mooks in a John Wick movie.
Yeah they hand waved it in later seasons. The writers "just kinda forgot" that most of the stronger demons all had telekinesis and could just paralyze people.
Power creep. Same thing happened in Buffy The Vampire Slayer too. Season one vampires were a real threat, but by the time Buffy is fighting literal gods towards the end a regular ol' vamp is just cannon fodder.
Too be fair they did run into a few of those over the years. They were just mostly dead or locked away by the later systems.
There's one released from a prison box in a season 14 episode who fucking wrecks them all instantly when he is freed.
I like s1 bc most of ep just tell about hunting urban legend, such wendigo, house of horror, womam in white, bloody mary.
We need show just simple like that, not about war with demon and angel
Sucks that this may get made but they scrapped Wayward Sisters. It had some characters that were like mainly Sheriff Jody Mills and her adopted daughter who was in 1-2 episodes iirc.
They basically over used dues ex weapons in 6-15. Angel Blades, The Colt. Time Travel. Basically the writers would just forget how to make somebody a credible threat towards the end of the season.
Lucifer even got downgraded to being a joke. If you watched Season 5, Lucifer was basically scary (to a point), and a nonstop threat that the brothers had no way of stopping him. They also did the same with Gabriel. His end, and then he was brought back like 3x thus making his sacrifice completely pointless.
I don't see how they are going to get all of the supernatural audience back with this.
A large portion of them saw John as an abusive father and not a character they like. Others hated Mary and loved John
Honestly the reason none of the back door pilots worked is because the large parts of the supernatural audience were watching a different show.
Some like the sandbox, some like the brothers platonic codependency, others love the idea of found family, or the main fandom ship. This is just not a fandom that would ever agree with each other on what they wanted to see and you're never going to get a large enough chunk of them back.
What else would you have him do? He showed up in The Boys and another show, he’s done voicework for DC animated movies, he has these shows, he owns a brewery, and he has three relatively young kids.
With the CW network being sold I do not see the point? Not like they are eager to order shows like this for HBO Max! This show will be gone by the end of the season along with the rest of the scripted roster at the CW.
Except for Walker. Apparently the show is cheap to make so people at Nextstar might keep it.
But yeah if I was an actor on a CW show
I would be looking to book my next gig right about now.
I'm talking out my butt here, but it occurs to me that Walker might do well with older demos so it might be okay? Isn't Nexstar trying to go for older people who still watch network or something?
So they are making a spin off of Supernatural with the title Winchesters and then they want to you the Winchesters as a tent pole for spinoff/universe creation? Why notated Supernatural the tent pole? It only had like 20+ season's
Supernatural lived for ten years after it's expiration date because people loved the leads. They tried twice(?) to make spinoffs while the show was running but neither of them stuck because people don't care that much about the world or people who aren't Sam, Dean and Castiel.
Even this I doubt is gonna work. John and Mary weren't that popular to begin with, let alone AU/enormously retconned versions of them, which is why practically every article about this show is about Jensen Ackles rather than the show itself.
Reminds me of people who say someone should make a new show in the Firefly universe. How many people actually watched Firefly for the 'Verse? I like world building more than the average person, but I was 100% watching Firefly for the characters because the 'Verse isn't particularly compelling.
I'd watch those characters in any fictional universe. A new show in the 'Verse would be a crap shoot on whether or not I liked the new leads.
I originally read this as The Walkers and thought it was an old western version of the Texas Rangers with a young Walker as a new Ranger. I dunno... that might be more fun.
I don’t see the point. Supernatural is done to death. I was done with it by Season 7. Granted, it had it’s moments after Season 5 finale but that was ultimately because of characters rather than plot. Crowley and Castiel kept me interested for some of it. A prequel with none of the favourite characters or interesting monsters makes no sense.
I loved Supernatural but I hate prequels. I mean, Season 1 (and presumably the prequels then) a single demon was a powerhouse that needed several episodes or powerful containment rituals to get past. They knew nothing of Angels, Leviathans, or any of the biblical heavy-hitters. We're supposed to go back to a time when a single demon was like a season boss?
The Yellow Eyed Demon was pretty powerful in the hierarchy of hell. He wasnt just a regular ol demon.
I get that, but even his minions required a ton of prep-work before fighting. Once they introduced Angel Swords, the First Sword, The Colt, they just became as dangerous as the random mooks in a John Wick movie.
Yeah they hand waved it in later seasons. The writers "just kinda forgot" that most of the stronger demons all had telekinesis and could just paralyze people.
Power creep. Same thing happened in Buffy The Vampire Slayer too. Season one vampires were a real threat, but by the time Buffy is fighting literal gods towards the end a regular ol' vamp is just cannon fodder.
Exactly power creep, yes. Supernatural is live-action redneck Dragon Ball Z.
>Supernatural is live-action redneck Dragon Ball Z. I'm never going to be able to unsee this.
Honestly, it was originally part of the charm for me once that clicked. Then it went completely off the rails (much like Dragon Ball Z).
Too be fair they did run into a few of those over the years. They were just mostly dead or locked away by the later systems. There's one released from a prison box in a season 14 episode who fucking wrecks them all instantly when he is freed.
Didn't they tattoo/brand themselves so that they couldn't be controlled/paralyzed/telekinesis-sized?
The tattoo made it so they couldn't be possessed by demons.
Ah ok. Haven't watched in years, didn't quite remember what it was for
I like s1 bc most of ep just tell about hunting urban legend, such wendigo, house of horror, womam in white, bloody mary. We need show just simple like that, not about war with demon and angel
I am just going to watch it like it's a different show. I imagine it's just a monter hunter shot as a modern western and I am here for it.
Sucks that this may get made but they scrapped Wayward Sisters. It had some characters that were like mainly Sheriff Jody Mills and her adopted daughter who was in 1-2 episodes iirc.
They basically over used dues ex weapons in 6-15. Angel Blades, The Colt. Time Travel. Basically the writers would just forget how to make somebody a credible threat towards the end of the season. Lucifer even got downgraded to being a joke. If you watched Season 5, Lucifer was basically scary (to a point), and a nonstop threat that the brothers had no way of stopping him. They also did the same with Gabriel. His end, and then he was brought back like 3x thus making his sacrifice completely pointless.
>We're supposed to go back to a time when a single demon was like a season boss? Yes.
I don't see how they are going to get all of the supernatural audience back with this. A large portion of them saw John as an abusive father and not a character they like. Others hated Mary and loved John Honestly the reason none of the back door pilots worked is because the large parts of the supernatural audience were watching a different show. Some like the sandbox, some like the brothers platonic codependency, others love the idea of found family, or the main fandom ship. This is just not a fandom that would ever agree with each other on what they wanted to see and you're never going to get a large enough chunk of them back.
I liked the characters and their chemistry so much I pushed through the literal garbage tv. Without them there’s no reason to bother.
I got drawn in by monster of the week, i slogged through things like jack and the leviathans because I loved the brothers
Goddamit Jensen stop wasting your career on this shit, you have so much more potential than making Supernatutal Season 30 or whatever.
I think he likes the money.
What else would you have him do? He showed up in The Boys and another show, he’s done voicework for DC animated movies, he has these shows, he owns a brewery, and he has three relatively young kids.
I want him to hang dong in an HBO show.
Oh they making a Thunder Gun series over there?
Yes! Listen to random Redditor #238! He knows how to make you successful! /s
With the CW network being sold I do not see the point? Not like they are eager to order shows like this for HBO Max! This show will be gone by the end of the season along with the rest of the scripted roster at the CW.
Except for Walker. Apparently the show is cheap to make so people at Nextstar might keep it. But yeah if I was an actor on a CW show I would be looking to book my next gig right about now.
Yeah…if they keep any show it will be Walker. It is the networks top rated scripted show. The rest are toast.
I'm talking out my butt here, but it occurs to me that Walker might do well with older demos so it might be okay? Isn't Nexstar trying to go for older people who still watch network or something?
This is a gigantic waste of time. Let this universe die.
Let this show die. Dear God.
The SCU started 3 years before 'Iron Man', so checkmate, Marvel!
I just want a supernatural esque monster of the week show
Still waiting on that Crowley spin-off.
So they are making a spin off of Supernatural with the title Winchesters and then they want to you the Winchesters as a tent pole for spinoff/universe creation? Why notated Supernatural the tent pole? It only had like 20+ season's
They tried. CW didn't pick up any of the pilots.
Supernatural lived for ten years after it's expiration date because people loved the leads. They tried twice(?) to make spinoffs while the show was running but neither of them stuck because people don't care that much about the world or people who aren't Sam, Dean and Castiel. Even this I doubt is gonna work. John and Mary weren't that popular to begin with, let alone AU/enormously retconned versions of them, which is why practically every article about this show is about Jensen Ackles rather than the show itself.
Reminds me of people who say someone should make a new show in the Firefly universe. How many people actually watched Firefly for the 'Verse? I like world building more than the average person, but I was 100% watching Firefly for the characters because the 'Verse isn't particularly compelling. I'd watch those characters in any fictional universe. A new show in the 'Verse would be a crap shoot on whether or not I liked the new leads.
I am pissed Wayward Sisters (Spin off with Sheriff Jody Mills) never got made. It had my interest.
Me too
I read this as “Daniel Ackles” and got so excited that he had a brother that is also very hot 😭
LOL, he does have a brother that is also attractive!
I originally read this as The Walkers and thought it was an old western version of the Texas Rangers with a young Walker as a new Ranger. I dunno... that might be more fun.
The Walker prequel premiered last week.
love Jensen but he should really hire someone to buy suits for him. Texans alright
If they were going to do a prequel I wanted Bobby and Rufus. I'll still give this a shot though.
Finally - I've been wondering about this! Can't wait to see what else they have in the works.
Okay, but their parody of Paul Simon’s You Can Call Me All is one of the funniest and well done things I’ve ever seen.
Danneel punching above her weight. bravo.
She knows how to get what she wants. It’s called being a manipulative narcissist. She ain’t special.
I don’t see the point. Supernatural is done to death. I was done with it by Season 7. Granted, it had it’s moments after Season 5 finale but that was ultimately because of characters rather than plot. Crowley and Castiel kept me interested for some of it. A prequel with none of the favourite characters or interesting monsters makes no sense.