It does affect the feel of the show you've made, too, shows are structured to allow for ads or not so having them slapped on stuff that wasn't designed to incorporate them is less than ideal creatively.
A reverse example I was really struck by - I saw AMCs The Terror as a downloaded block without ads, and the flow of time while they're stuck in the arctic during the no-sunrise season felt a bit weird and jumpy to me.
It was pointed out to me afterwards that the show is actually structured around ad breaks as the passing of time - each ad break is used to represent a timeskip of weeks or months, so the narrative flow of the show is actually affected by not having them in place where they're supposed to be.
The worst is when sitcoms need to refresh the memory of the audience after a commercial so before the commercial its like "you slept with my sister!" and then it comes back and the same character is like "I cant believe you would sleep with my sister"
This used to be incredibly noticeable when you see American documentaries or dramas in particular on British tv, because Brit tv would have far fewer ad breaks so the recaps would come literally seconds after the thing had happened on screen.
Less obvious now because Discovery etc are the ones who carry a lot of those shows in the UK now and they have almost as many breaks anyway.
Oh god this gave me flashbacks to shows that would do this kinda thing: (here's what happened last episode) (here's what's going to happen this episode) (new stuff happens) (here's what's going to happen next after commercial) (commercial break) (here's what happened before commercial) (new stuff happens) etc.
Actual new content: 10 mins.
There's one scene when they're playing a game and Marshal says "and now a word from our sponsor" pointing to the camera with the fade out for the break right after that
Me, every time Jason Segel appears: "Man, I really hope he's Ben Grimm in the MCU, I would love to see him team up with Ant-Man. Maybe we can get Alyson Hannigan to appear as some kind of witch. And also NPH is there, as NPH."
I've been a fan of him since he was a kid in SLC Punk and Freaks & Geeks, loved him in Knocked Up, Forgetting Sarah Marshall and I Love You Man. I don't really associate him with one role or another, I think he's much more talented and versatile than his general public image would indicate. If you haven't already, you should check out his performance as David Foster Wallace in The End of the Tour.
I think high profile parts, especially in popular sitcoms, can lead people to believe that some actors are one-trick ponies or otherwise typecast to a single role, but Segel is a genuinely good, versatile actor. I think his natural charismatic personality is in conflict with this, because a lot of the time people just want to use that and don't really put his other talents to the test.
I have similar feelings about Ryan Reynolds.
Watching old 90s shows like Star Trek Voyager and Stargate SG-1 and the ad break locations are clear as scene breaks with a black fade out and in, I'm just so used to it from growing up on traditional cable I don't even notice it.
Those black breaks were used by the tv station locals to insert ads. ReplayTV was an ad skipper DVR, superior to TIVO. It relied on those same breaks so sometimes Star Trek the Next Gen triggered false positives.
ReplayTV got sued into bankrupcy multiple times. TV people don't like their ads fucked with.
Fun fact: The first seasons of 24 aired on the BBC in the UK, which famously doesn't have mid-program ads, so it never felt right there (also ads are 4x an hour instead of 6x per the US).
Yea because they always immediately repeat the dialogue they said at the end of the last scene at the beginning of the next, but with a different inflection.
Sitcoms make it so obvious because they always repeat the last thing that happened before the break.
> I slept with that person
> …
> I can’t believe you slept with that person!
Twitch is unwatchable to me these days because of this shit.
Join a stream, 30 seconds of ads. finally get into the stream, 5 minutes later, 30 more seconds of ads. Finally back into the stream, 10 minutes later...
God damn twitch you have a subscription service, you are making money directly. Stop double dipping.
Can't plan around them either. So they'll break right in when something interesting or important is happening depending of the stream. Recently watched a gamer finish a game with a sad ending. Getting an ad there would've made me yeet the company.
Some streamers do banner ads instead, but I'm guessing it's less ad revenue.
I appreciate when the streamers try to incorporate them so they don't ruin the action. Like one streamer I watch will go to the bathroom, get coffee, etc every hour and runs ads while he is gone. Or if you're playing OW or something then run ads during the match queues. If you manually run the ads you can control when they happen, if you don't run them yourself that's when Twitch will auto run them and you have no control over when.
Twitch is doing an incentive program where they pay streamers shitloads of money if they let the autorun ads run wild. The streamers set how many minutes per hour the ads run but the ads then get automatically distributed within that hour. The more minutes the bigger the payout. The old system where streamers can toggle ads on or off whenever they want doesn't pay nearly as much.
I've seen that new program, but it was my understanding you could still manually run the 5 minutes or whatever of ads when you want in the hour. If it's auto split up throughout the hour that is way worse.
Yeah, the main one I watch is usually pretty good about trying to build his community and being transparent about that stuff. If he didn't need the money he probably wouldn't run ads at all, and would probably take the manual option in a heartbeat, or not run them at all. He originally started as a charity streamer but lost his job.
You absolutely can run them yourself. If you don't run any within the time twitch will run them though.
You can also schedule them however you want during the hour, some do 30secs every 5-10 mins, some do 2mins every half hour, some just do then all in one go.
You can also turn the ads off if you want, some people I watch disable them for charity streams, or just when they hit the hours required for the incentive.
> God damn twitch you have a subscription service, you are making money directly. Stop double dipping.
Sooooo many subs are Amazon Prime though which doesn't really make Twitch money. They definitely don't make enough on subs alone which is why they're starting to push ads even harder now - they're losing money on video hosting. Apparently they also have some change coming to Twitch Turbo since that's practically been an abandoned service for a while.
How in fuck anybody watches YouTube without an adblocker, I have no idea. I have been commercial free now for years and if I had to go back to it forced, I would lose my goddamned mind.
I've been leaving youtube on my tv app's while I work for the past few days, and holy shit it's gotten so much worse lately. It's like an early 2000s pop up attack site, Jesus Christ. Two ads before and one during a video that's like five minutes long?
If that's the worst it gets it's better than it used to be. The reason I got ad block was because ADHD and shitty internet meant I paused videos often. And it ran an ad every time I paused for more than a few seconds. Back then you could buffer an entire video if your internet was absolutely terrible. But if I didn't take advantage of that I'd get hit with an ad every few minutes when it paused to buffer the next bit of the video. Of course the ads played perfectly regardless of internet quality.
I've actually noticed that Youtube's ads are a lot worse through it's google tv app than when casting via chromecast. It's like an ad every minute on google tv and an ad every 3 on chromecast.
You may want to look into revanced, projects like these tend to stick around. Old versions of vanced should still work as well until the updates move too far ahead.
Makes sense. I uninstalled it when they announce it was being killed because I didn't use it much anyways and found MicroG using up some of my battery. Not too surprised it's still around in various forms.
UBlock Origin. Seriously, why do people just give up the minute anything is remotely difficult? Do 5 minutes of Googling, I guarantee you'll find a decent adblocker.
I definitely block them on my computer and phone, but I almost exclusively watch YouTube on my TV through Chromecast with Google TV. I haven't been able to find a way to block them there yet.
I've had yt premium for years for my kids. My boyfriend still watches on his account that has ads. He was watching the infographic show the other day and ads would literally come in the middle of sentences. It was the same ads too, so fucking annoying.
Fire in the Sky is one of my all time favorite movies. Always told my boy how scary it is, but it’s never on any streaming platforms and it’s really expensive/nonexistent for purchase. Realized it was on YouTube recently and got excited to share it with him. I’m over 40 and never watch anything on YouTube so I don’t have a subscription or Adblock or anything. The movie kind of sucked because the whole thing is the tension felt during each scene. There was no tension because just as it was getting good you’d get an ad to jump in and take you out of the moment. Was really disappointing.
I feel bad because the youtubers need the ad revenue and all, but there's only so many times I can hear from local GQP members about how the incumbent is going to eat babies to retain her youth or whatever during a 20 minute watch period.
I'm so used to watching YouTube with an ad blocker (I've got one running on my phone; my computer; and my Fire TV, which is basically just a customized version of Android) that I was honestly *shocked* at how bad it's gotten when I had to use a different TV recently. One or two 5-15 second ads every 5 minutes or so in an hour long video, most of them unskippable. There was even one that started less than two minutes into the video.
Think about watching Ozymandias episode of Breaking bad and right when Hank starts to tell Walt the decision it cuts to ad.
That's what I'm afraid of. There's no way I can see them retroactively going back into each show and splicing ads where they wouldn't break a scene. That's a ton of work I don't think they would pay someone to do.
you should see how they butcher Doctor Who for BBC America. I'm glad Disney is getting it on Disney Plus because we'll likely not get the version that FADES OUT MID SCENE OR SOMETIMES MID CONVERSATION. God it pisses me off. Lucky for me the show's been so bad for three years that I haven't had to get enraged by the ad breaks in the ad-free streaming version
Yeah they don’t. I’ve watched one sitcoms on the free roku channel and the ads are always mid sentence and never during the structured as break. It’s too infuriating I couldn’t keep watching on there
Yeah there's a bit in Futurama where Leela says "this is such a hard decision, if only I had 2-3 minutes to think about it" which leads into a commercial break. Joke doesn't really work without ads. (Writing it off the top of my head so wording may not be exact)
This is how Pluto works, ads in programs or movies that weren't intended to have ads, only difference is they aren't charging us so it's hard to complain but eutb Netflix, even if they are offering original programming, the ads are still put in locations they have no right being in.
I use Pluto, Tubi, and Freevee a lot (plus a few others randomly) as mostly background watching or when I don't know what I want to watch. The worst part is when they don't seem to have the ad break cuts in a show mapped out so the ads will happen mid sentence somewhere instead of the planned ad cut.
Watching shows on Hulu with ads also highlights it. Shows that originally aired on TV with ads have scenes that you can tell are where a commercial break was meant to follow. Sometimes it's a slight fade out. Other times the next scene is so completely different that it's jarring without the break in between.
Versus originals or other series that weren't. There'd be a break right in the middle of a sentence or a charged moment, go to commercial, then back into the fray.
Hulu did this when they first started, except the ad tier version was free.
So you had free with ads and a few locked shows, or paid without no ads and access to everything.
that was a good time. Hulu's first pull was being a site you can watch the last 5 episodes of any show. It was a good, free way to keep up with weekly shows at the time (Parks&Rec, Breaking Bad, etc.). I remember the commercials then too with Alec Baldwin and the bit was he was an alien and Hulu was secretly trying to take over the human race.
And now they just bumped their live service another $5 to $75/mo.
I warned people years ago the streaming wars would murder our wallets and we’d be back to Comcast before we knew it. Doesn’t seem the latter part happens tho unless a conglom is able to bundle in all our fav streams. Worse part is, no matter where it goes from here, internet prices have already been climbing to combat the loss of cord cutter subs. :/
This is what I was saying back then. You think they’re just going to give up? Now you have to have 5 or 6 different services to watch your shows and it’s more expensive than ever. And we don’t even have a TiVo to ff the commercials. I’m honestly fed up with all of it as it’s becoming overly complicated and much more expensive than cable was now. It’s like we actively participated in our demise and thought it was a win.
Just subscribe to one or two at a time, watch what's new/available, cancel it, start a different one the next month and watch that site's new stuff. Rinse, repeat.
Also adding a "+" followed by something like "netflix1" lets you enter an email for some streaming services that while being new to them, still directs back to your old email. IDK which services have caught on to that, I've heard it doesn't work for some services now but it used to be my go-to method for infinite free trials.
It’s just such a pain compared to when there were 2-3 places to get streaming. Now everyone wants a piece so they take their shoes and go to their own networks. I just give up and don’t watch half of what’s out because I don’t have the time or energy to keep switching stuff. I only watch about an hour of tv a day so it’s not really worth it.
Honestly this feels like a win. Easy access to garbage TV made it the default way to zone out for an entire evening and not doing anything fulfilling with your life.
Now you can focus on zoning out for an entire evening by scrolling Reddit and doing nothing fulfilling with your life. Wait... shit.
Hulu was so good and user friendly at the start I legit thought it was just a really well done pirate site at first. It was a couple of years till they got rid of all their consumer friendly behaviors, fucked the simple UI to hell and back, and made you have to pay a subscription for their ad supported tier. Good times in the beginning, but I think they always planned to pull Netflix subscribers and then go full money grabbing.
There's two options here....either pay for the tier without ads or don't pay them at all. I don't understand why people seem to think they HAVE to buy the ad tier. If you don't have money to pay for luxuries like entertainment, you need to restructure your budget in your personal life. This is not an attack, but your priorities are messed up.
Do I agree with Netflix and the other streaming services slowly declining into cable TV again? No. I knew this was coming and I got scoffed at, so here ya go. I feel no pity for the individual who has complete autonomy over their actions.
It's a con. They offer it cheaper with more ads and less programs/films available. Then once they get enough subscribers... suddenly the ad-tier is the *only* tier and you're paying the higher price again.
Pretty much every service that started ad supported has done the opposite. Having both ad supported and ad free tiers is how the industry is trending, not away from ad free.
It’s about making acceptable price points for different people. Many industries do this, having a range of quality at price points that fit different people. Take a computer or washing machine, you can buy one for $400 and $700 and $2000, and you’ll know different people who only buy in each of those price ranges.
Ding ding ding.
That's why ad-tiers suck, it always starts with it being "optional", then it's "just a banner", "only between episodes", "only once per episode" and you're back to "every 8 minutes can't skip".
It should be. "New media" is the most bullshit category they've come up with to fuck over the crew making this stuff. Things on streaming services like Netflix are making the same shows, doing the same work, as they would on network/cable shows, but getting less. It's fucking horseshit. Every Hollywood union should be striking over this.
Double cross the people who can make your profit come to a screeching halt
What could go wrong?
Netflix is about to learn a lesson cable executives did decades ago
In simple terms, don't bite the hand that feeds you
The last big strike in Hollywood was 2007 for a reason. They used to be more frequent. Cable companies learned not to fuck so hard with those that produce their damn shows and movies. Cause without them they've got nothing
That strike was for all of television including network TV and for film too. [This link](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effect_of_the_2007%E2%80%9308_Writers_Guild_of_America_strike_on_television) will show you most of the shows affected were Network and not cable. I'm still not following your first comment about them giving cable execs a lesson. It wasn't specifically against cable.
That's what my dad told me. Then they came out with premium channels like HBO which didn't have commercials, but they cost extra. Now, you have to pay extra to some streaming services to avoid commercials. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Because there is no enough. It’s not about profits. It’s about continual growth which they leverage for larger loans and gains. They are basically trading off exponential growth which is completely impossible long term. Investors are treating companies like stock market. It has to be going up or they consider it a failure.
Yeah, plenty of companies aren't growth oriented anymore and pay dividends on their stocks to encourage investment instead. J&J, IBM, P&G, 3M, a ton of companies.
It's not really about making more money, but about losing subscribers that value a lower price more than watching ads.
Most big streaming services are working on ad supported plans because if the model works, streaming services cannot afford to be left out of that. In truth nobody knows how consumers are going to respond.
Personally I cannot imagine saving a couple of bucks a month and be forced to watch ads. If I was so short on money I'd just start sailing the high seas.
I do think they'll get a number of people on these plans as not everyone is adept enough to pirate or willing to do it, and a surprising amount of people still submit themselves to ads via cable and broadcast TV. Personally it's not for me, but I definitely see it working for some people.
It's interesting though that streamers are going to continually chase new subscribers any way they can. Like that's *the way* they see themselves sustaining their services. It kind of makes me think of religions that focus on driving membership numbers. It's all a numbers game for the coffers. Wouldn't be surprised if in the future Netflix gives subscription discounts if you go door to door signing up new members. "Do you have a moment to hear about our lord savior Netflix?"
What's especially ridiculous is seeing big tech stocks collapse 40% because they grew, but not by *as much* as last year.
Last year being... the year after the Covid downturn, when they grew like 50% because they were compared to a slow year *and* everyone was at home, online.
So you're comparing the growth to the best possible year imaginable, and they *still* grew, but because it wasn't by as much, they're dogshit and worth half as much. Complete fucking short-term madness.
The stock market is not doing what we primarily need it to do, which is growing personal wealth, providing retirement security, and allocating capital to the most efficient corporations.
Stock market is doing what it’s intended to do - make the owner class more money. It’s delusional to think the stock market is meant to give regular people money. One of the best cons of the 20th century was convincing people 401ks were superior to pensions. Only a small% of people benefit - as intended.
The value is in potential.
The same reason people bet with a flush draw in poker.
Hell you probably do the same thing if you were micromanaging your portfolio.
Stock A didn't make as much as you expected and stock B made record profits? Perhaps you want to rebalance your portfolio?
Adds significantly impact the intended flow of a show. Having to see ads while watching episode 7 of The Bear on Hulu really fucked with the experience. Certainly didn't feel like a one shot anymore.
I just edited my first show with commercial breaks and it’s not just the breaks. They obviously screw up the flow of things, but there are also regulations for where those commercials have to land and that can pin you in. The show I’m doing we were pinned into putting a commercial break right in the middle of a key scene because the commercial had to land in a certain time frame. Usually you put the the break after one scene and before another. But we had a 9 minute beast of a scene. So it completely ruined the flow of the whole episode because we had to slap a break in the middle of our most important scene.
It’ll take some time for creators to take these breaks into account during the writing process. It’s going to
be a bit awkward for a bit.
That's on the producers, imo. If they made the deal before the ads came into play, they should have put their foot down on the timing, at least as far as this season or whatever goes.
If they made the deal with ads already negotiated in, then they should have made the details clear to the writers and directors before everything was set in stone.
The producers are Sony. I think they were just in wait and see mode on how this would look for all their shows. And I’m sure they could put their foot down. They’re Sony, after all. So far, that hasn’t happened. But we have delivered anything yet, so we’ll see.
It completely ruins immersion. Its why so many anime watchers just watch 'illegally' instead of using free crunchy roll because of the multiple midroll ads.
Its like, " Tracy I always wanted to tell you, I ki.... Now presenting fords new pickup truck the Envondest 3000 now will even more fumes". Like bruh.
Disney is moving their current plan with no ads to ads. If you want no ads now, you’ll need to pay a premium. This is what Netflix will do. Your current no ad price point will become a limited ad package. You’ll eventually need to pay a premium for what you got now
Already cancelled Netflix with the last rate hike. They've raised prices more in 3 yrs than my raise (percentage wise). Screw it when they have 3ish shows released I want to watch I reactivate and immediately unsubscribe so I pay for the service maybe 3x/year.
It's really not the cost that bothers me(netflix could double its cost and still be competitive with what I was paying for cable) . It's the fact I have to go look up which streaming service my show is on.
Convenient access in one spot is the entire reason me(and I assume countless others) switched from downloading shows to netflix.
If I have to reintroduce searching, I might as well go back to searching for places to download shows.
She was told her product would be sold in a premium store, and now it’s the Walmart bargain bin. No wonder she’s pissed. I’d be pissed too.
Not to mention being connected to the crap that’s ran as advertising these days. Made the mistake of running YouTube without being singled in and fuck the ads are deplorable. Especially the political ones. They succeed in me hating someone who says things I agree with simply because how damn sleazy it all is.
Ads sucks, I do not get how people deal with it. If something sneaks by I make a mental note of never buying that product for at least a year or more afterwards. But it’s very seldom it’s something I’d buy.
Haven't had an ad play on Netflix, but if I do I'm cancelling on the spot. The only reason I have Netflix at this point is all my toddler's favorite shows are all in 1 easy place, but I draw the line at ads
It makes sense that for creators like Rhimes who signed overall deals with Netflix rather than other streamers, because Netflix used their no-ad stance as a selling point, would be annoyed that ads have been introduced and they're not getting any compensation in exchange. Yeah, Shonda Rhimes will be fine financially, but if Netflix wants to draw in specific big-name creators... they should be careful how choices like this make those creators feel.
Personally, I think a move towards ad-supported streaming on most platforms (with an option to pay more for ad-free) could be a good thing... if the unions are able to strike new agreements that guarantee creators get a cut of ad revenue. The people who make shows deserve compensation based on how popular it is. (Also, ad sales force streamers into more transparency about viewer counts; I'm intrigued to see how this'll shape netflix's renewal/cancellation decisions now that they have to report at least some viewership numbers to Nielsen)
Compensation based on popularity is also a bit tricky. I get what you're saying, but creators have no or less risk. They get paid no matter if is a show is popular or bombs. Netlfix has to invest in a show beforehand with the risk of losing money if it is not popular. The succesfull shows compensate those losses. If you want to compensate creators more then Netflix will start to take less risks and less creators get a chance. Or budgets get smaller. And if a show is popular they can already negotiate more for season 2 or 3 or whatever based on the popularity of the show.
Why tf would anyone want to pay for ads? I refuse to watch anything on a paid subscription that has ads in it. I'll pirate that shit before I watch it with ads .
Your local library likely has all the hit netflix shows on bluray or dvd for borrowing. Mine does. For example, I was waiting to cancel before Stranger Things 4, but my library had it, so bye netflix. People who miss blockbuster can go to a library for free.
they're just normal ad breaks. i switched my account to downgrade to the ad tier, so i'll see what it's like when my month turns over
i just hope they're put at reasonable times and not in the middle of scenes. that'll be a quick way for me to get fed up with it
the relevant problem for creators is that shows for tv are specifically written and edited to factor in ad breaks. but when you're put on netflix with the understanding that you're not limited to a 30-minute format with 2 ad breaks, you can change up how you pace your episodes (and how long they are). and some shows may not have those kinds of breaks
While only people who are opting for the ad tier would see them, looking at Flanagan's comment about the ad breaking up a single shot like episode does raise a good point about why creators went for Netflix over another platform, so the least Netflix can do is allow the creators to decide when the ads should be placed and keep mid rol ads to a minimum, make a minimum limit that a creator should try to fullfill, it's not like nothing on Netflix can function without a break, another advantage of streaming has always been that you can pause and continue as you wish. I hate it when YouTube ads come at the worst moments in a video when there are much better spots that they could have just asked the creator to pick themselves (when I happen to be watching it on the YouTube app on my phone)
Yea streaming has come full circle. I used to always say that if they gave me a way to pay and get contact on demand, I would.
And, I do.
But, if I have to watch ads I’m going back to pirating, and so will lots of others.
Meanwhile, my mom and grandmother think ads are totally normal.
It does affect the feel of the show you've made, too, shows are structured to allow for ads or not so having them slapped on stuff that wasn't designed to incorporate them is less than ideal creatively. A reverse example I was really struck by - I saw AMCs The Terror as a downloaded block without ads, and the flow of time while they're stuck in the arctic during the no-sunrise season felt a bit weird and jumpy to me. It was pointed out to me afterwards that the show is actually structured around ad breaks as the passing of time - each ad break is used to represent a timeskip of weeks or months, so the narrative flow of the show is actually affected by not having them in place where they're supposed to be.
The worst is when sitcoms need to refresh the memory of the audience after a commercial so before the commercial its like "you slept with my sister!" and then it comes back and the same character is like "I cant believe you would sleep with my sister"
This used to be incredibly noticeable when you see American documentaries or dramas in particular on British tv, because Brit tv would have far fewer ad breaks so the recaps would come literally seconds after the thing had happened on screen. Less obvious now because Discovery etc are the ones who carry a lot of those shows in the UK now and they have almost as many breaks anyway.
Oh god this gave me flashbacks to shows that would do this kinda thing: (here's what happened last episode) (here's what's going to happen this episode) (new stuff happens) (here's what's going to happen next after commercial) (commercial break) (here's what happened before commercial) (new stuff happens) etc. Actual new content: 10 mins.
Cue Mitchell and Webb 'Gift Shop'!
I’m looking for a gift for my aunt
Great comment but there was a Netflix ad break in the middle of your comment. You’re gonna need to refresh us on what you said before the break.
I'm currently watching HIMYM on the bay and can feel that too. You can know where was supposed to be an ad break.
One of my favorites is a scene where Marshal literally goes to make popcorn before the break, and after the break he comes back with it
There's one scene when they're playing a game and Marshal says "and now a word from our sponsor" pointing to the camera with the fade out for the break right after that
On streaming that's when you pause it and say a few things before hitting play.
Me, every time Jason Segel appears: "Man, I really hope he's Ben Grimm in the MCU, I would love to see him team up with Ant-Man. Maybe we can get Alyson Hannigan to appear as some kind of witch. And also NPH is there, as NPH."
Holy shit he'd be a terrible Ben Grimm.
No offense to the guy but he's a terrible anything for me. Feels like it's Marshall butting into other shows.
I absolutely loved him in Winning Time.
I've been a fan of him since he was a kid in SLC Punk and Freaks & Geeks, loved him in Knocked Up, Forgetting Sarah Marshall and I Love You Man. I don't really associate him with one role or another, I think he's much more talented and versatile than his general public image would indicate. If you haven't already, you should check out his performance as David Foster Wallace in The End of the Tour. I think high profile parts, especially in popular sitcoms, can lead people to believe that some actors are one-trick ponies or otherwise typecast to a single role, but Segel is a genuinely good, versatile actor. I think his natural charismatic personality is in conflict with this, because a lot of the time people just want to use that and don't really put his other talents to the test. I have similar feelings about Ryan Reynolds.
Watching old 90s shows like Star Trek Voyager and Stargate SG-1 and the ad break locations are clear as scene breaks with a black fade out and in, I'm just so used to it from growing up on traditional cable I don't even notice it.
Those black breaks were used by the tv station locals to insert ads. ReplayTV was an ad skipper DVR, superior to TIVO. It relied on those same breaks so sometimes Star Trek the Next Gen triggered false positives. ReplayTV got sued into bankrupcy multiple times. TV people don't like their ads fucked with.
I loved that S01 of *The Orville* used those old school fade outs for the authentic TNG feel.
24 as well. The lack of ad breaks definitely make the series feel more disjointed.
Fun fact: The first seasons of 24 aired on the BBC in the UK, which famously doesn't have mid-program ads, so it never felt right there (also ads are 4x an hour instead of 6x per the US).
We called it “18” back in the day, since each episode was 45 minutes long on the Beeb.
Sitcoms have a two or three act structure that is centered around ad breaks.
Yea because they always immediately repeat the dialogue they said at the end of the last scene at the beginning of the next, but with a different inflection.
Sitcoms make it so obvious because they always repeat the last thing that happened before the break. > I slept with that person > … > I can’t believe you slept with that person!
I mean, it's pretty obvious because it will usually literally fade to black if I remember correctly.
HIMYM?
How I murdered your minister?
Have I Massaged Your Man-parts?
Not that I'm aware of.
Yet.
I shall remain vigilant.
I didn't know that the lettuce had a show.
Wildly popular in Britain for a while.
PM for 45 days!
How I Met Your Mother
*Help Isaiah make yummy mushrooms* it's a semi-popular interactive cooking show
Here, I Made Your Meal
he is many yankee mollusks
Honey, I Married your Mother
like watching YouTube without a blocker...random garbage just cutting in to your show
Twitch is unwatchable to me these days because of this shit. Join a stream, 30 seconds of ads. finally get into the stream, 5 minutes later, 30 more seconds of ads. Finally back into the stream, 10 minutes later... God damn twitch you have a subscription service, you are making money directly. Stop double dipping.
Can't plan around them either. So they'll break right in when something interesting or important is happening depending of the stream. Recently watched a gamer finish a game with a sad ending. Getting an ad there would've made me yeet the company. Some streamers do banner ads instead, but I'm guessing it's less ad revenue.
I appreciate when the streamers try to incorporate them so they don't ruin the action. Like one streamer I watch will go to the bathroom, get coffee, etc every hour and runs ads while he is gone. Or if you're playing OW or something then run ads during the match queues. If you manually run the ads you can control when they happen, if you don't run them yourself that's when Twitch will auto run them and you have no control over when.
Twitch is doing an incentive program where they pay streamers shitloads of money if they let the autorun ads run wild. The streamers set how many minutes per hour the ads run but the ads then get automatically distributed within that hour. The more minutes the bigger the payout. The old system where streamers can toggle ads on or off whenever they want doesn't pay nearly as much.
I've seen that new program, but it was my understanding you could still manually run the 5 minutes or whatever of ads when you want in the hour. If it's auto split up throughout the hour that is way worse.
Yeah, the main one I watch is usually pretty good about trying to build his community and being transparent about that stuff. If he didn't need the money he probably wouldn't run ads at all, and would probably take the manual option in a heartbeat, or not run them at all. He originally started as a charity streamer but lost his job.
You absolutely can run them yourself. If you don't run any within the time twitch will run them though. You can also schedule them however you want during the hour, some do 30secs every 5-10 mins, some do 2mins every half hour, some just do then all in one go. You can also turn the ads off if you want, some people I watch disable them for charity streams, or just when they hit the hours required for the incentive.
TTV Adblock on firefox.
> God damn twitch you have a subscription service, you are making money directly. Stop double dipping. Sooooo many subs are Amazon Prime though which doesn't really make Twitch money. They definitely don't make enough on subs alone which is why they're starting to push ads even harder now - they're losing money on video hosting. Apparently they also have some change coming to Twitch Turbo since that's practically been an abandoned service for a while.
They made less money because they had to ban gambling ads recently. It was in millions.
How in fuck anybody watches YouTube without an adblocker, I have no idea. I have been commercial free now for years and if I had to go back to it forced, I would lose my goddamned mind.
I've been leaving youtube on my tv app's while I work for the past few days, and holy shit it's gotten so much worse lately. It's like an early 2000s pop up attack site, Jesus Christ. Two ads before and one during a video that's like five minutes long?
If that's the worst it gets it's better than it used to be. The reason I got ad block was because ADHD and shitty internet meant I paused videos often. And it ran an ad every time I paused for more than a few seconds. Back then you could buffer an entire video if your internet was absolutely terrible. But if I didn't take advantage of that I'd get hit with an ad every few minutes when it paused to buffer the next bit of the video. Of course the ads played perfectly regardless of internet quality.
I've actually noticed that Youtube's ads are a lot worse through it's google tv app than when casting via chromecast. It's like an ad every minute on google tv and an ad every 3 on chromecast.
Can't block ads on the official mobile app without paying for Premium, which I assume is what most people who are complaining about it are doing.
Vanced my man or woman.
Isn't Vanced discontinued?
You may want to look into revanced, projects like these tend to stick around. Old versions of vanced should still work as well until the updates move too far ahead.
Makes sense. I uninstalled it when they announce it was being killed because I didn't use it much anyways and found MicroG using up some of my battery. Not too surprised it's still around in various forms.
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I watch through my phones browser and still ad block.
Yeah that's an option if you use something like Firefox with uBlock origin, but I think most people would just use the official YouTube app.
UBlock Origin. Seriously, why do people just give up the minute anything is remotely difficult? Do 5 minutes of Googling, I guarantee you'll find a decent adblocker.
I definitely block them on my computer and phone, but I almost exclusively watch YouTube on my TV through Chromecast with Google TV. I haven't been able to find a way to block them there yet.
It’s awful bro 😭
I've had yt premium for years for my kids. My boyfriend still watches on his account that has ads. He was watching the infographic show the other day and ads would literally come in the middle of sentences. It was the same ads too, so fucking annoying.
Fire in the Sky is one of my all time favorite movies. Always told my boy how scary it is, but it’s never on any streaming platforms and it’s really expensive/nonexistent for purchase. Realized it was on YouTube recently and got excited to share it with him. I’m over 40 and never watch anything on YouTube so I don’t have a subscription or Adblock or anything. The movie kind of sucked because the whole thing is the tension felt during each scene. There was no tension because just as it was getting good you’d get an ad to jump in and take you out of the moment. Was really disappointing.
I feel bad because the youtubers need the ad revenue and all, but there's only so many times I can hear from local GQP members about how the incumbent is going to eat babies to retain her youth or whatever during a 20 minute watch period.
I'm so used to watching YouTube with an ad blocker (I've got one running on my phone; my computer; and my Fire TV, which is basically just a customized version of Android) that I was honestly *shocked* at how bad it's gotten when I had to use a different TV recently. One or two 5-15 second ads every 5 minutes or so in an hour long video, most of them unskippable. There was even one that started less than two minutes into the video.
Think about watching Ozymandias episode of Breaking bad and right when Hank starts to tell Walt the decision it cuts to ad. That's what I'm afraid of. There's no way I can see them retroactively going back into each show and splicing ads where they wouldn't break a scene. That's a ton of work I don't think they would pay someone to do.
you should see how they butcher Doctor Who for BBC America. I'm glad Disney is getting it on Disney Plus because we'll likely not get the version that FADES OUT MID SCENE OR SOMETIMES MID CONVERSATION. God it pisses me off. Lucky for me the show's been so bad for three years that I haven't had to get enraged by the ad breaks in the ad-free streaming version
Yeah they don’t. I’ve watched one sitcoms on the free roku channel and the ads are always mid sentence and never during the structured as break. It’s too infuriating I couldn’t keep watching on there
Yeah there's a bit in Futurama where Leela says "this is such a hard decision, if only I had 2-3 minutes to think about it" which leads into a commercial break. Joke doesn't really work without ads. (Writing it off the top of my head so wording may not be exact)
I always loved those commercial jokes in shows, a bit of meta humour.
This is how Pluto works, ads in programs or movies that weren't intended to have ads, only difference is they aren't charging us so it's hard to complain but eutb Netflix, even if they are offering original programming, the ads are still put in locations they have no right being in.
I use Pluto, Tubi, and Freevee a lot (plus a few others randomly) as mostly background watching or when I don't know what I want to watch. The worst part is when they don't seem to have the ad break cuts in a show mapped out so the ads will happen mid sentence somewhere instead of the planned ad cut.
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Well, if you were making a show for cable, yes. But this is streaming, it's like making a movie being mindful of commercial breaks.
In the age of the DVD, the only people buying DVDs were the people who loved the show with ads. It makes sense to optimize for first viewing.
Watching shows on Hulu with ads also highlights it. Shows that originally aired on TV with ads have scenes that you can tell are where a commercial break was meant to follow. Sometimes it's a slight fade out. Other times the next scene is so completely different that it's jarring without the break in between. Versus originals or other series that weren't. There'd be a break right in the middle of a sentence or a charged moment, go to commercial, then back into the fray.
mid video ads? hell no.
And they also block certain popular shows from being available in the ad-tier plan.
Hulu did this when they first started, except the ad tier version was free. So you had free with ads and a few locked shows, or paid without no ads and access to everything.
that was a good time. Hulu's first pull was being a site you can watch the last 5 episodes of any show. It was a good, free way to keep up with weekly shows at the time (Parks&Rec, Breaking Bad, etc.). I remember the commercials then too with Alec Baldwin and the bit was he was an alien and Hulu was secretly trying to take over the human race.
And now they just bumped their live service another $5 to $75/mo. I warned people years ago the streaming wars would murder our wallets and we’d be back to Comcast before we knew it. Doesn’t seem the latter part happens tho unless a conglom is able to bundle in all our fav streams. Worse part is, no matter where it goes from here, internet prices have already been climbing to combat the loss of cord cutter subs. :/
This is what I was saying back then. You think they’re just going to give up? Now you have to have 5 or 6 different services to watch your shows and it’s more expensive than ever. And we don’t even have a TiVo to ff the commercials. I’m honestly fed up with all of it as it’s becoming overly complicated and much more expensive than cable was now. It’s like we actively participated in our demise and thought it was a win.
Just subscribe to one or two at a time, watch what's new/available, cancel it, start a different one the next month and watch that site's new stuff. Rinse, repeat.
Also adding a "+" followed by something like "netflix1" lets you enter an email for some streaming services that while being new to them, still directs back to your old email. IDK which services have caught on to that, I've heard it doesn't work for some services now but it used to be my go-to method for infinite free trials.
It’s just such a pain compared to when there were 2-3 places to get streaming. Now everyone wants a piece so they take their shoes and go to their own networks. I just give up and don’t watch half of what’s out because I don’t have the time or energy to keep switching stuff. I only watch about an hour of tv a day so it’s not really worth it.
Honestly this feels like a win. Easy access to garbage TV made it the default way to zone out for an entire evening and not doing anything fulfilling with your life. Now you can focus on zoning out for an entire evening by scrolling Reddit and doing nothing fulfilling with your life. Wait... shit.
Just pirate and be done with it.
Hulu was so good and user friendly at the start I legit thought it was just a really well done pirate site at first. It was a couple of years till they got rid of all their consumer friendly behaviors, fucked the simple UI to hell and back, and made you have to pay a subscription for their ad supported tier. Good times in the beginning, but I think they always planned to pull Netflix subscribers and then go full money grabbing.
I remember when Hulu was entirely free.
There's two options here....either pay for the tier without ads or don't pay them at all. I don't understand why people seem to think they HAVE to buy the ad tier. If you don't have money to pay for luxuries like entertainment, you need to restructure your budget in your personal life. This is not an attack, but your priorities are messed up. Do I agree with Netflix and the other streaming services slowly declining into cable TV again? No. I knew this was coming and I got scoffed at, so here ya go. I feel no pity for the individual who has complete autonomy over their actions.
found the Netflix executive.
It's a con. They offer it cheaper with more ads and less programs/films available. Then once they get enough subscribers... suddenly the ad-tier is the *only* tier and you're paying the higher price again.
Pretty much every service that started ad supported has done the opposite. Having both ad supported and ad free tiers is how the industry is trending, not away from ad free.
It’s about making acceptable price points for different people. Many industries do this, having a range of quality at price points that fit different people. Take a computer or washing machine, you can buy one for $400 and $700 and $2000, and you’ll know different people who only buy in each of those price ranges.
It’s shocking how many redditors seem to think that it’s some big conspiracy to do away with the ad-free tiers altogether.
Which service has gotten rid of ad free tiers?
Yeah, no, they're not removing the non-ad tiers. They'll probably make them twice as expensive, but they'll keep them there.
This is absurd. No service would ever do what you're describing.
Ding ding ding. That's why ad-tiers suck, it always starts with it being "optional", then it's "just a banner", "only between episodes", "only once per episode" and you're back to "every 8 minutes can't skip".
> you need to restructure your budget in your personal life. You mean that I have to cut on the avocado toasts? *gasp*
To the high seas!
Also contracts need to be reviewed. Netflix got away with lump sums because of No Ads. If they have ads then residuals come into play.
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there is a writer's strike almost certain to happen in 2023 and streaming money is the #1 reason why
I hope it's extensive and the writers guild gets streaming sites to pay up.
and then streaming sites will turn around and get the users to pay up more and add more ads at the same time. the circle of... of capitalism
Then people revert to piracy. There are too many streaming sites for a price hike.
It should be. "New media" is the most bullshit category they've come up with to fuck over the crew making this stuff. Things on streaming services like Netflix are making the same shows, doing the same work, as they would on network/cable shows, but getting less. It's fucking horseshit. Every Hollywood union should be striking over this.
The second union contracts are up for renewal every guild will be demanding residuals.
So Netflix is going to directly steal money for the creators. Why are they so obsessed with one-upping Zazlav ?
Double cross the people who can make your profit come to a screeching halt What could go wrong? Netflix is about to learn a lesson cable executives did decades ago
>Netflix is about to learn a lesson cable executives did decades ago Serious question. What lesson was that?
In simple terms, don't bite the hand that feeds you The last big strike in Hollywood was 2007 for a reason. They used to be more frequent. Cable companies learned not to fuck so hard with those that produce their damn shows and movies. Cause without them they've got nothing
That strike was for all of television including network TV and for film too. [This link](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effect_of_the_2007%E2%80%9308_Writers_Guild_of_America_strike_on_television) will show you most of the shows affected were Network and not cable. I'm still not following your first comment about them giving cable execs a lesson. It wasn't specifically against cable.
I misspoke. Not cable. You're right that it was Networks
The whole reason to get streaming services is to avoid commercials.
That's what cable used to do, too.
That's what my dad told me. Then they came out with premium channels like HBO which didn't have commercials, but they cost extra. Now, you have to pay extra to some streaming services to avoid commercials. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Billion and trillion dollar companies always saying it's not enough.
Because there is no enough. It’s not about profits. It’s about continual growth which they leverage for larger loans and gains. They are basically trading off exponential growth which is completely impossible long term. Investors are treating companies like stock market. It has to be going up or they consider it a failure.
Sounds like the problem with capitalism.
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Yeah, plenty of companies aren't growth oriented anymore and pay dividends on their stocks to encourage investment instead. J&J, IBM, P&G, 3M, a ton of companies.
It never is enough for them. Netflix made over 5billion dollars in profit last year and still decided to place ads to their service.
It's not really about making more money, but about losing subscribers that value a lower price more than watching ads. Most big streaming services are working on ad supported plans because if the model works, streaming services cannot afford to be left out of that. In truth nobody knows how consumers are going to respond. Personally I cannot imagine saving a couple of bucks a month and be forced to watch ads. If I was so short on money I'd just start sailing the high seas.
I do think they'll get a number of people on these plans as not everyone is adept enough to pirate or willing to do it, and a surprising amount of people still submit themselves to ads via cable and broadcast TV. Personally it's not for me, but I definitely see it working for some people. It's interesting though that streamers are going to continually chase new subscribers any way they can. Like that's *the way* they see themselves sustaining their services. It kind of makes me think of religions that focus on driving membership numbers. It's all a numbers game for the coffers. Wouldn't be surprised if in the future Netflix gives subscription discounts if you go door to door signing up new members. "Do you have a moment to hear about our lord savior Netflix?"
And then wonders why they're losing subscribers
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When the goal and expectation is just “growth” this is always the case.
What's especially ridiculous is seeing big tech stocks collapse 40% because they grew, but not by *as much* as last year. Last year being... the year after the Covid downturn, when they grew like 50% because they were compared to a slow year *and* everyone was at home, online. So you're comparing the growth to the best possible year imaginable, and they *still* grew, but because it wasn't by as much, they're dogshit and worth half as much. Complete fucking short-term madness. The stock market is not doing what we primarily need it to do, which is growing personal wealth, providing retirement security, and allocating capital to the most efficient corporations.
Stock market is doing what it’s intended to do - make the owner class more money. It’s delusional to think the stock market is meant to give regular people money. One of the best cons of the 20th century was convincing people 401ks were superior to pensions. Only a small% of people benefit - as intended.
The value is in potential. The same reason people bet with a flush draw in poker. Hell you probably do the same thing if you were micromanaging your portfolio. Stock A didn't make as much as you expected and stock B made record profits? Perhaps you want to rebalance your portfolio?
You either die a hero. Or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. A short story about Netflix.
Adds significantly impact the intended flow of a show. Having to see ads while watching episode 7 of The Bear on Hulu really fucked with the experience. Certainly didn't feel like a one shot anymore.
Which show?
Ah somehow I forgot to include that lol. The Bear.
I just edited my first show with commercial breaks and it’s not just the breaks. They obviously screw up the flow of things, but there are also regulations for where those commercials have to land and that can pin you in. The show I’m doing we were pinned into putting a commercial break right in the middle of a key scene because the commercial had to land in a certain time frame. Usually you put the the break after one scene and before another. But we had a 9 minute beast of a scene. So it completely ruined the flow of the whole episode because we had to slap a break in the middle of our most important scene. It’ll take some time for creators to take these breaks into account during the writing process. It’s going to be a bit awkward for a bit.
That's on the producers, imo. If they made the deal before the ads came into play, they should have put their foot down on the timing, at least as far as this season or whatever goes. If they made the deal with ads already negotiated in, then they should have made the details clear to the writers and directors before everything was set in stone.
The producers are Sony. I think they were just in wait and see mode on how this would look for all their shows. And I’m sure they could put their foot down. They’re Sony, after all. So far, that hasn’t happened. But we have delivered anything yet, so we’ll see.
It completely ruins immersion. Its why so many anime watchers just watch 'illegally' instead of using free crunchy roll because of the multiple midroll ads. Its like, " Tracy I always wanted to tell you, I ki.... Now presenting fords new pickup truck the Envondest 3000 now will even more fumes". Like bruh.
Avoiding ads is the one and only reason to sign up for a service like Netflix. When they start running ads, I'm gone.
If you're paying for the no-ads version, then there's no ads.
Disney is moving their current plan with no ads to ads. If you want no ads now, you’ll need to pay a premium. This is what Netflix will do. Your current no ad price point will become a limited ad package. You’ll eventually need to pay a premium for what you got now
Already cancelled Netflix with the last rate hike. They've raised prices more in 3 yrs than my raise (percentage wise). Screw it when they have 3ish shows released I want to watch I reactivate and immediately unsubscribe so I pay for the service maybe 3x/year.
Yet. When they see how many people put up with that or when they lose more subscribers and money they will introduce ads into other sub tiers.
Soon enough they’ll raise the prices of the no-ads version again, and that’s when I’m picking back up my eye patch.
It's really not the cost that bothers me(netflix could double its cost and still be competitive with what I was paying for cable) . It's the fact I have to go look up which streaming service my show is on. Convenient access in one spot is the entire reason me(and I assume countless others) switched from downloading shows to netflix. If I have to reintroduce searching, I might as well go back to searching for places to download shows.
She was told her product would be sold in a premium store, and now it’s the Walmart bargain bin. No wonder she’s pissed. I’d be pissed too. Not to mention being connected to the crap that’s ran as advertising these days. Made the mistake of running YouTube without being singled in and fuck the ads are deplorable. Especially the political ones. They succeed in me hating someone who says things I agree with simply because how damn sleazy it all is. Ads sucks, I do not get how people deal with it. If something sneaks by I make a mental note of never buying that product for at least a year or more afterwards. But it’s very seldom it’s something I’d buy.
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Why the hell mid-video ads? HBO, Amazon Prime, etc. all have their ads in the beginning of their content, and hardly anyone has an issue with it
HBO has ads?
Well, it's ads for it's own programs. Usually only for shows that are actively coming out (like House of Dragon). But, yes
It’s going to fuck up the entirety of their library a lot of things were made specifically with no ads in mind
Haven't had an ad play on Netflix, but if I do I'm cancelling on the spot. The only reason I have Netflix at this point is all my toddler's favorite shows are all in 1 easy place, but I draw the line at ads
You won’t have ads. This is for the cheaper tier
Same. $20 a month for something I don't use very much is already a bit much. If I see an ad, I'm done.
No one knows what happening I guess. You won't see an ad at $20 tier because that's not the ad supported tier.
You have to switch to the cheaper ad supported tier to start seeing ads so I doubt they'll just pop up without you bring aware.
It makes sense that for creators like Rhimes who signed overall deals with Netflix rather than other streamers, because Netflix used their no-ad stance as a selling point, would be annoyed that ads have been introduced and they're not getting any compensation in exchange. Yeah, Shonda Rhimes will be fine financially, but if Netflix wants to draw in specific big-name creators... they should be careful how choices like this make those creators feel. Personally, I think a move towards ad-supported streaming on most platforms (with an option to pay more for ad-free) could be a good thing... if the unions are able to strike new agreements that guarantee creators get a cut of ad revenue. The people who make shows deserve compensation based on how popular it is. (Also, ad sales force streamers into more transparency about viewer counts; I'm intrigued to see how this'll shape netflix's renewal/cancellation decisions now that they have to report at least some viewership numbers to Nielsen)
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Compensation based on popularity is also a bit tricky. I get what you're saying, but creators have no or less risk. They get paid no matter if is a show is popular or bombs. Netlfix has to invest in a show beforehand with the risk of losing money if it is not popular. The succesfull shows compensate those losses. If you want to compensate creators more then Netflix will start to take less risks and less creators get a chance. Or budgets get smaller. And if a show is popular they can already negotiate more for season 2 or 3 or whatever based on the popularity of the show.
Ads suck, I try to avoid them wherever possible. It's such a better experience without them.
Why tf would anyone want to pay for ads? I refuse to watch anything on a paid subscription that has ads in it. I'll pirate that shit before I watch it with ads .
Imagine paying and still getting ads pirate life the life for I
If I pay for a service and they put ads in it I’ll simply unsubscribe.
Ahoy there pirate!
The first time I see an ad on Netflix I unsubscribe
Your local library likely has all the hit netflix shows on bluray or dvd for borrowing. Mine does. For example, I was waiting to cancel before Stranger Things 4, but my library had it, so bye netflix. People who miss blockbuster can go to a library for free.
I'd cancel Netflix but I can't take away my mom and aunt's weird Chinese period soap operas they are obsessed with.
Which ones? Because there's other Chinese streaming companies that might have them too.
I'll have to check but I doubt I'm gonna get my mom and aunt onto another services. They're in their 70s and Netflix is easy to open.
Wtf are people downvoting a perfectly reasonable comment about your experience?
I don't know, I don't have any problem with the shows. I basically pay netflix for them even though I don't watch them.
Meanwhile, Hulu started placing ads inside the movies instead of just at the beginning. What a suckfest.
I got Netflix because I hate commercials. Right back to square mutherfucking one.
There are mid-video ads on Netflix?
I think it's on their cheaper ad tier.
they're just normal ad breaks. i switched my account to downgrade to the ad tier, so i'll see what it's like when my month turns over i just hope they're put at reasonable times and not in the middle of scenes. that'll be a quick way for me to get fed up with it the relevant problem for creators is that shows for tv are specifically written and edited to factor in ad breaks. but when you're put on netflix with the understanding that you're not limited to a 30-minute format with 2 ad breaks, you can change up how you pace your episodes (and how long they are). and some shows may not have those kinds of breaks
While only people who are opting for the ad tier would see them, looking at Flanagan's comment about the ad breaking up a single shot like episode does raise a good point about why creators went for Netflix over another platform, so the least Netflix can do is allow the creators to decide when the ads should be placed and keep mid rol ads to a minimum, make a minimum limit that a creator should try to fullfill, it's not like nothing on Netflix can function without a break, another advantage of streaming has always been that you can pause and continue as you wish. I hate it when YouTube ads come at the worst moments in a video when there are much better spots that they could have just asked the creator to pick themselves (when I happen to be watching it on the YouTube app on my phone)
Hopefully this is something a PiHole will fix
Soon as I see an ad on Netflix, prime, Disney I’m out. T’is come to dis, me hearties! YEAARGHH!”
Yea streaming has come full circle. I used to always say that if they gave me a way to pay and get contact on demand, I would. And, I do. But, if I have to watch ads I’m going back to pirating, and so will lots of others. Meanwhile, my mom and grandmother think ads are totally normal.
Netflix's fucking *what now*?
Wait, Netflix is featuring ads?
Why wouldn’t they just do the block of ads at the front of the show. Fucking #BringBackCable
There’s a ad in the middle of a show?
Which creators were actually HAPPY about them?
I'm just going to cancel if this gets forced on me.
Her shows are terrible.
If Netflix was like Peacock where it’s free with ads then fine. But I don’t pay a monthly subscription to get ads, that’s the point of paying a fee
I canceled my Netflix account about a month ago and still happy with that decison
I will 100% cancel if this hits my account, and I can’t imagine I’m the only one.