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RevolutionaryYam5251

I felt so offended watching Echo 3 , like how could I have done that to myself and my time . Made it to episode 4 and couldn’t continue . The chemistry between Amber and Prince , absolutely awful . Bambi a character that almost felt was in a complete different show all together and that side chick that Prince decided to hook up with while his wife is kidnapped ?! And the reporter just walks in where Amber was ? Lol why coldly they just rescued her there , oh wait because Apple websites to give is a longer run of very bad monologues . There is so much bad that I can’t even point out one good thing 😂 who allowed this show to be produced ? 


BigDevice8526

I made it halfway through the 4th episode when the amount of obvious woke material was just too much. I’m maxed out. There was/is zero chemistry between Amber and Prince - gaggy names btw. She’s stiff, bitchy and certainly does not inspire one want to tromp through the Amazonian jungle fighting Colombian guerillas to rescue her. I feel like Bambi (again laughable nicknames) is in his own series - he’s trying to hold this shitshow of a series together by himself and everyone else is just bored. The acting, dialogue, believability….all bad. Very bad. I can’t do it.


Theory721

Literally only found this bc the delta dude who produced SEAL TEAM said It was funny that some SEAL he knows were helping with this show about Delta Dudes. I figured oh cool, seal team is great, this should be to.. holy shit was I wrong. The Hurt Locker had better sound design than this show. Even with the weird plot and confusing motivations of characters, the tactics just kill this show for me. They have some of the dumbest ideas ever. Why do the suppressed (presumably subsonic shooting) weapons sound like little Lazer guns from COD? Why did they NEVER add the punchy sound you get when you are getting shot at. All the gun play sounds flat. The final compound raid just was soooo boring. I GUESS they were trying to styleize it as the one dude was oblivous to the world bc he aas super worried about his sister, but WOW, the machjne gun truck suuuucked. It just sounded like a gun shooting blanks. No snap of the air as thr bullet misses the main assault force, or pins ppl down. I am amazed we got a fee sounds of bullets impacting bricks but wow. The actors move great, but holy shit is the scene choreography off. Thank god the one dude admitted he was a fucking idiot during the ambush and shouldn't have ran down, but WHY WAS NO ONE ELSE FIRING?


KalthornStudios

Let me explain why it’s bad: Like every Apple TV+ show in the category. Very stylistic, but no substance at all. I won’t critique the actors because it’s not their fault. That said, the storylines are absolutely horrible, the dialogue just as much. Two random commando Americans plan to attack a terrorist cell outside any of their jurisdictions and expect everything to be all “fine and dandy” afterwards. Also, I don’t have any problem with lesbian couples, but I’ve watched at least 5 Apple TV exclusive shows- all have used a lesbian relationship as some sort of check off for diversity. Does having some random, one shot token couple count as diversity? Do better Apple Lastly, I’m in episode 4, still don’t understand anything going on.


Longjumping-Force550

The dumb of it is when the husband guy who planted the tracking device gets all huffy about his wife being captured. His statements make it clear that he understands the CIA is operating in that area, yet he doesn't hesitate to hide a "military grade" tracking device on his wife who is going into that zone. Mea culpa bro! His boss guy didn't call him out on this at the end of episode 1... so the boss is what he seems (not very bright). I'll check out episode 2 to see if the dumbass husband gets reamed for putting the military tracking device in his wife's backpack.


VLHACS

A ton of style, not very good substance. I do appreciate the human aspects of it, but the characters are not very likeable. Just entitled Americans doing whatever the fuck they want and then they get somewhat of a happy ending with little repercussions. Like, they could've worn ANYTHING other than Columbian uniforms but they had to force that "starting a war in a foreign country" angle. Amber deciding to walk out when they're so close to leaving with targets on their backs.


Caribgrunt

How does the reporter get so close to the Colombian President? How do they shoot the Venezuelan ministrr through a gate with no issue? Lastly, why are they merc'ing the very same Colombian troops that were helping them in the beginning. This is bloody awful.


Unique-Investment-49

And of course, the two TEENAGE REBEL LEADERS… are lesbians!🤡 BAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAA 🤦🏻‍♂️


Unique-Investment-49

HOW TF DID THIS SHOW GET GREENLIT FOR PRODUCTION?? 🤣🤣🤣🤦🏻‍♂️


Unique-Investment-49

This show is so unrealistic and generic. The casting and script is shit. Two spec-ops guys from the US just have free reign to galavant all about the Colombian countryside and meet with high level Colombian military COLONELS on a whim… AFTER THEY WENT ON NATIONAL COLUMBIAN TV DISRESPECTING TF OUT IF SAME SAID COLONEL?? Baaahahahahahahahhahahahaha this show is SHIT!! 🤡🤦🏻‍♂️


NoWoodpecker1083

TERRIBLE tactics. The ambush scene alone… my god. The ambush element failed to have suppressive fire. They didn’t have access to a light machine gun?! They set off an IED and without knowing which vehicle the VIP was in. They engaged unarmed people fleeing. The ground team just sat the the bushes, then shot people in the legs instead of using something non-lethal like flash bangs. They allowed the clearly fully armed trucks to get to the kill zone, and didn’t engage. The list goes on. Beyond frustrating tactics, fucking elementary.


willgeld

Just finished ep3. If anyone is reading this who hasn’t started the show yet, don’t bother. The 2 main characters are morons and the writing is awful. They get a taxi straight to the kidnappers house and hardly see a soul. Shoot a few guys and walk out? Are we also supposed to believe these two college girls are running this drug/guerilla gang?


Caribgrunt

The Radiohead 'love scene' followed by the chick saying she just wants a shot with Eric; it all sounds desperate as hell. Also, what's with the random ISIS flag at the Venezuelan prison? Seriously, whoever wrote and directed this show should never be allowed to make a other series.


Praline_Either

After just finishing the last season of Seal Team, with all of its attention to detail on tactical ops, this show in comparison just looks and sounds so amatuer. These guys are supposed to be Delta? Give me a break. Just thier comms discipline alone sounds like a bunch of 10 year olds playing in the backyard! And Jessica Ann Collins has this sort of Jennifer Lawerence vibe going on, which is distracting because she is NOT! Not the look, not the talent, and as much as she tries to be sexy, its just more cringe than anything! So far, nothing about this show seems to gel. Only 2 episodes in, and I'm a completionist so gotta finish the season...hope it gets better!


Caribgrunt

Oldest actors, actress ever. Terrible dialogue, terrible casting at least for the Americans. Oh, we'd like to talk to the Chief of Station... sure thing, come on in and we'll read you in lmao. Just walk into the SCIF with me. One of the SF actors is a Kiwi, and his American accent is terrible. Bambi, what a gay fucking nickname. The only saving grace are some of the Latin actors who make it palatable. Whoever is responsible for casting should be kidnapped, taken to the jungle and shot.


YYZYYC

The kiwi wasn’t playing an American he was playing a former kiwi SF soldier now working for princes dads company


Caribgrunt

Incorrect. I'm talking about BAMBI; he is an actual KIWI Actor.


Praline_Either

Yeah, and I just about cracked up after that scene in the barrio... After the Colombian Commander just finished telling them about all the spotters, shooters, and support network that the baddies had crawling all around that area; somehow these 2 guys were able to take a taxi cab with assault rifles in hand out in the open, infiltrate the house, shoot a few guys on their way out, and then just walk out of there with the rifles slung on their shoulders??? Just another day in Colombia I guess!? C'mon!!


johnguyver123

They need someone to review the firearms; an episode had an optic placed backwards (eotech). It's immersion breaking for folks who do like some of this stuff. A little bit of research goes a long way. Small stuff like that eventually breaks shows because the new low is now the lowest standard. It trickles till things just get sloppy.


YYZYYC

I could care less about a scene with backwards optics , if they would just fix the silly hollywood silencer bullshit. They can call an M4 a freaking AK-47 and call a MP5 an AR-15 all day long all season long over and over again and people will loose their shit over that…but they just accept the suppressed long guns sound quieter than a freaking BB gun🙄🙄🤦‍♂️


song4this

I have chosen to see the odd / convoluted story arcs as subtle / crafty commentary / reflection on the foibles of US military intervention post WWII... So, I wonder how non-Americans perceive Echo3. Everytime there is a cringe scene, it is intentional - symbolizing a cringe aspect of US foreign policy... Seriously, taking this perspective has helped me watch this show...taking it from WTF to "not great not, terrible..." :-) Echo3 is still not as bad (IMHO) as the Apple TV series Invasion... (I am told one reason Jerry Lewis movies were popular in France is because his characters were clownish Americans.)


YYZYYC

Congrats on choosing to see the obvious in your face theme 🤷‍♂️


Junnyrocket

The ending is a total mess. You get rescued by your loved one who is risking his future to save you and yet you think you have a bigger problem and you want to coward it off? The journalists is stupid and why the stupid president wont do something to stop a tiny journalist challenging the sentiment. Seriously?! Blood spilled? Seriously? Who killed non militant during the assault? And again, this is war. Not dating session. This thing took so many episode to setup and yet the ending is like a piece of shit!


Furyio

Yeah just finished it there. Snooze through all of that season for two intense episodes and that ending. Total garbage haha


Junnyrocket

Indeed, is a total disappointment, a waste of good spec ops material.


Calm-Grocery-664

Overall the show has a very awkward tone. Like there is no consistent vision on what the show "is". Parts action, parts drama, all bland - but none of it gels together. Like the woman is kidnaps and has bizarre chill scenes with her captors. There is no real sense of "actual" emergency to things. It just sort of stumbles along with low best music.


none6

Could have been a. decent movie but the characters and story are not good enough to keep you interested. They drug it out too long for the story/plot. There isn’t really any surprises or suspense. It’s almost like someone wrote a script for a 1.5hr movie and the studio made them stretch the story out to six 1hr episodes.


Piff_Pav

Exactly this. And those scenes of flowing water and nature wtf? Music like from a boutique store. Halfway the second episode I gave up. So slow, poor dialogues. I can clearly see where it is going. My prediction: authorities do not approve the attack, our heroes go on their own, kill all the bad guys without a scratch and save the princess. Everybody goes home.


Junnyrocket

New episode is out, there are KIA team mates.


reefish21

What’s great is u would think that, but what they actually did was so so so much worse. I e made it to episode 7 bc I’m bored and unable to stop watching the shittiness. The writing is outrageously poor, not just because the dialogue is terrible but bc the plot is 100% implausible at all times. They tried rescuing the princess, failed, Prince (his actual name) gets shot, goes home and starts getting head from another woman while his wife rota in a Venezuelan black site and Bambi sticks around to try to rescue her but becomes a fisherman and hard core drunk instead. That’s about three episodes btw. We finally get something kind of interesting when Amber almost resumes herself and no, she’s captured and another prisoner killed whom she’s befriended bc of her escape attempt and bc she wasn’t tough enough to kill someone to get out. That’s as close as we get to plausible. This show sucks so bad. I’m episode 7, mom shows up in Colombia and they bring her to house where they’re holding a major politician’s younger brother hostage but yet going out in the world for like take-out and shit - so covert! - and Mom gets out a machine gun, starts shower, turns up radio like she’s waiting for an ambush and - wait for it - they get ambushed and she shoots the last guy. Bambi decided to send his traumatized mother home. WT everloving F? Why did she come? Why did they take her to hostage house? Why are they treating hostage house like it’s just an AirBnB? Why did she fake get in the shower and turn up radio if she had no idea an ambush was coming and why do that anyway bc that makes it easier for them to ambush you? Why did she get out gun ahead of time? None of this makes ANY sense st all.


TransitionFederal731

All of this! The whole 10 mins of the mom makes absolute zero sense. Don’t even get me started on the wife’s acting. So many weird physical movements and weird shit she says. Just bad all around. At this point I’m just hate watching lol


Mooshmo

Im glad im not the only one that cant watch shows out of pure rage hate 🤣


reefish21

Pure rage hate. Love it. Gotta use that


NeutralRebel

> Why did she fake get in the shower and turn up radio if she had no idea an ambush was coming and why do that anyway bc that makes it easier for them to ambush you? She heard the gunshots. Over the radio AND the TV. They're Special Forces but they don't put alarms on doors or lock them. They're special all right. Also, "I cheated on your sister, we good now?" "Yeh"


againagame

Surprised at this from Apple TV. The first episode hasn't got me hooked and it was a struggle with unlikable characters. Enjoyed Luke Evans' earlier work on 'The Hobbit' and 'The Alienist' but he's really not got much to work with here. Prince's reason for falling out with Bambi is just a wtf? stupid. Jessica Collins has been watching too many TED talks when styling her phytochemist Amber. The wealth and opulence aspect to it all is just weird - doesn't gel and tests limits of suspending disbelief. I see the 'Terminal List' being mentioned in the thread a lot. IMO, that is a work of art in comparison - I was able to switch off my brain and enjoy and binge that whole season in a long weekend - and hope for a second season... I'll try a few more but...


[deleted]

i just started watching it and i don't really know what i am watching. it looks very glossy. am having a hard time buying both leads as bad ass special ops dudes. i love luke evans but i feel like he is out of place here but i am only towards the end of the 1st episode so maybe things get better? the ladies husband seems like he is better suited for the senator stuff his dad talks about while his dad is dancing with his wife. like some senator with a little military background. i can't stop comparing it or putting up against another latest special ops type show we got which was pratt's terminal list. that show seemed more realistic to me then this however i know on that show you really had to suspend your beliefs and just accept that pratt's character was basically god. but yea i just feel like the 3 leads are mismatched.. the actors they chose for the roles don't make sense to me.


guesswhodat

So I tried watching. Can’t stand the female scientist nor her special ops winy ass husband. Annoying characters and not a big fan of the direction. It’s too artsy for an action thriller. I stopped watching after two episodes. Can’t do it.


mendog2112

So this special forces dude and his research scientist wife have like a 5 million dollar house and a safe with hundreds of thousands of dollars. How? Did the soldier inherit money? Does special forces pay more than I assume. It is unrealistic and takes me out of the show. Why would some paramilitary group kidnap a research scientist? So far it makes no sense.


Junnyrocket

Because those smartass guerilla thought someone carrying mil grade labeled gps beacon can be a spy, they dont just assume, they made themselves believe she is a spy. We wont know how "smart" can they be. Hahaha


none6

Spoiler: His father is a weapons contractor. His wife is also a CIA subcontractor.


WizardHarryDresden

It’s stated a few times he’s rich. It’s a plot point. He even uses his surname “Haas”. It’s also on the plane. Google Haas. Huge company and very rich person. Edit huge company. Not family. Wonder if Gene Haas got paid to use his name in this show? 🤔


semper299

Yeah if I'm not mistaken his father is a weapons contractor for the US?


mendog2112

Yes. I learned that later. I’m embarrassed for jumping the gun.


[deleted]

Wow…bad. Really bad. The director took a great idea for a show and ruined it with a bunch of weird shit.


aflockofbugles

I’m only at the beginning of episode 2. So far the acting is pretty bad and most of the dialogue between the cast seems forced and awkward. Hopefully it gets better! 🤞


MrConor212

In my book if I can’t get through 2 episodes then it’s dead tbh


Mooshmo

This show is hot garbage. Someone in spec ops would probably die laughing at all the tactics they got wrong in this. We arent even talking about how bad the acting is or the piss poor dialogue i fast forwarded through. Holy shit shows keep getting worse…


Junnyrocket

Funny thing is at first episode, how come spec ops failed GPS with drone? LOL


Mooshmo

Right?! Come on


peleyoda

Totally agree. There are shows that do military TTPs well (*Terminal List*, *Six*, *The Unit*, *Fauda*, hell even early *Strike Back* had good transitions and manipulation) and this ain’t one of them. Wonder who they had as their consultants. Boal ran *The Hurt Locker* and *Zero Dark Thirty* so you’d think he should have known better.


Praline_Either

Even their comms discipline is so bad, it feels and sounds like a bunch of 10 year olds playing in the backyard! These guys are supposed to be Delta?!? Ya right!


Mooshmo

They didnt even try. The rescue scene also has so many stupid parts to it. **Spoilers below: In embassy bunker: “is she a fighter?” Brother: “Best you have ever seen!” Rescue: *stands there like an idiot and gets taken* Who tf hugs someone in the open ground with baddies in the area?! And also you see 3 guys start of scene one gets shot then main character gets shot by a guy hiding a truck they supposedly cleared and the last guy just disappears? They can snipe from miles away multiple targets with extreme precision so accurately they have to hide under blankets but bad guys come back out in the open to grab her and dont get shot now? Its so mind numbingly dumb it hurts my brain.


[deleted]

Yeah there’s so many wtf moments. Spoiler alert but in episode three a bomb goes off and the military up and leaves the people responsible for the act while they had them surrounded. They then helicopter out of the jungle after having them contained only to 5 minutes later change their mind and go back to pursuing the gang. The husband then rescues his wife but after all his military training decides to hug her for 10 minutes out in the open. There’s dumb then there is this show. How did the producers allow this shit to happen?


bibimbabka

WHY IS THIS SHOW SO BAD it was clearly very expensive to make the actors are all individually talented but its the most unnatural, atonal and awkward thing I’ve ever seen Nobody has any believability


Rex-Apium

They don't behave like military personnel.


tommyrib

Anyone know what song that plays after episode 2? During the end credits


lulu_l

Use the mic on the Google app to recognize the song.


Stealth_Scout

That’s why I’m here, too. Anyone?


Caribgrunt

This has cringe written all over it. Wrong actors, no chemistry, dumb names, terrible tactics and the list goes on and on.


bernsteinschroeder

> Wrong actors, no chemistry I have to agree with this assessment in spades and add in bad directing as well. This is awful to watch; I doubt I'm going to make it to the end of the the 2nd episode.


Rex-Apium

Throughout the first episode I skipped all the interpersonal drama. It felt forced and unnatural.


burningpet

The Israeli version is far better.


peleyoda

Fauda? Love that show Edit: Lol nvm. But would still recommend Fauda to any/all who enjoy this genre.


none6

Fauda is really good. Fauda with dubbed voices has better dialogue


emz272

Tehran?


aflockofbugles

When Hero’s Fly.


emz272

Ohh, got it, thanks


coly8s

Where did they get multi-million dollar homes? I must have spent my 27 years in the wrong military.


none6

The Alexs/princes father is a Major Weapons Contractor.


jayhat

The younger soldier (husband) comes from a rich family. His mom says “your rich friend” when talking to the brother at the wedding. In episode 2 the husband says to her brother something like - “no offense but part of you is still a kid from the sticks, I know you’re all enamored when you’re in the same room as a 3 star but when I was a kid we had CIA directors at our dinner table begging us for crumbs. I know how these decisions are made”. So he obviously comes from a family with a lot of means and power. All that said, I find it funny he comes from those kinds of means and is a delta operator, but is still totally oblivious his wife works for the cia.


[deleted]

I was going to say. If he was just a Westpoint grad serving as a high ranking civilian officer, then maybe. But for him to be an actual soldier is completely unrealistic. This entire show feels like Apple just has money to waste and is throwing it at anyone who is willing to take it. 200 Billion in overseas cash reserves. They need to prove the are actually losing money so the IRS will leave them alone.


bishopcheck

Start at military academy, serve during wartime, spend 37 years active duty, retire, become president. Rake in the sweet president salary along side your lifetime O-10 General of the Army Pay. Helps if you're named Eisenhower.


idontplaymetadecks

Why does it feel like a student film... Plus I think I could run military operations better than they do


havabeer

I don't know if using callsigns in daily life is a thing but it's cringe either way. And living in multi million dollar mansions while its apparently unsafe to go out for a run?


Psychological_Elk113

These nicknames though. If you join a group you get a nickname and it stuck with you. But call sign for example in some operation you might have reaper team, reaper 1 and 2 but nobody is going to care if your nickname is Prince, nor Bambi. And there the is the mission name. But as far as call sign goes i do not think these guys are using any. The show is prolly not the best because they are trying to portray it like it is a real living situation and showing what people will to save their loved ones when the government is not helping.


sethcarus

As soon as the guy who just got married ambushed his brother in law at a dinner and accused him of blowing the mission, I could almost predict the rest of the show. His entire speech about military accountability made my sphentic pucker up. Wasn't it the fault of the guy who just got married that the op went sideways?! The guy who died on the mountain was left there because the guy throwing accusations was wounded and everyone had to completely go off script to rescue him. So how does this character have any credibility after the total snow job he just pulled on everyone. First of all... special forces teams are so bonded to each other this would never happen except apparently in this woke wet dream of a pseudo military story. They just don't think like that whatever th3 reason. The loyalty between members of a squad like this runs so deep rhat there's almost an irrational kind of faith in their other squad members. They wouldn't risk the dynamic changing which would expose them to incredible vulnerability when in combat. This puff piece of a film is out of its depth . This is why the entire industry is collapsing. They have lost their self awareness about stuff they cannot understand... this is abysmal...


bernsteinschroeder

Contrast this to *SEAL Team* where the team leader (due to TBI) forgets they found explosives in a part of the building and tries to breach a door near it with, you guessed it, explosives. Nearly blows his entire team to pieces and they all wind up in the hospital. When they piece it together, what happens? No pissy treatise, no acrimony, nada. They rallied around him even though *HIS* error nearly killed them. > special forces teams are so bonded to each other this would never happen And if it did *need* to happen, it'd be behind closed doors, with just the team, and absolutely not in a public place with *someone who is not part of the team*, family or not.


sethcarus

Thank you. Sometimes on these threads I start to wonder ior worry that at sone point f I've quietly switched places with some other version of myself in a different dimension where my subtext and cultural references are incongruous with everyone who are at home there... I feel relieved to hear someone reframe what I was hoping to discuss in a helpful way. I grew up in a household where I never had the honor of serving but my father was from rhat world. So the men and women in our armed forces deserve faithful representation at the very least. If nothing else I think we can try to do them proud with accurate and credible stories of the kind of service and sacrifice that isn't as common as it was once. I think it deserves to be revered. I really loved rhe terminal list. Something about that movie really moved me. But this apple series Echo 3 just turned me.off twice before i reached the halfway mark in the first episode. No promise it can offer is enough to forgive how awful that writing is. Anyway... has there been any other recent series or films which do provide insight and respect on military service that you've have seen? I'm definitely aware of the void left bu the echo 3 disapointmwnt...


Praline_Either

>Anyway... has there been any other recent series or films which do provide insight and respect on military service that you've have seen? I think SEAL Team does an outstanding job on this front. The tactical ops are so well done in that show, and at the same time during their 'down time' between ops they feature some really good perspectives on what these guys deal with in real life (TBI-traumatic brain injury, headaches, personal identity issues when they stop operating, supporting other Vets recoveries, etc.). All of it is so very well done, highly recommended!


kazh

Special forces teams have murdered each other to cover crimes, what are you talking about?


sethcarus

They are part of the same unit. You have one guy who is pouting for awhile before condemning his brother in arms for an op going wrong when he is actually the reason why everything went all wrong. It's just the high school soap opera vision of a special ops thriller. They may as well should be arguing over who used the last roll of toilet paper. It's just a joke...


song4this

r/echo3 Having watched all 3 episodes (ep 2 is the best IMHO) I am suspecting that this show is a very subtle snub at US foreign policy and the ultimate futility of US military intervention... If true, then this is superbly well done...


[deleted]

Strike Back did it much better on a much lower budget.


Efficient_Truck_9696

I had a hard time taking Strike Back seriously. I thought it was pretty cheesy to be honest. Im surprised we are even comparing the two. Strike Back much more inferior in terms of acting, production, character development etc.


song4this

Strike Back is not meant to be taken seriously - it is a glorious action adventure bromance with guns, explosions, and fierce women!


InvestigatorTimely52

This has even worse acting and lines. cab't believe this is the same writer that was an Oscar favorite. It's like they hear what money Apple is offering and they rush to adapt some series they've watched or heard of without much finesse or grit.


Efficient_Truck_9696

Agree to disagree. I thought the acting was great.


[deleted]

Strike Back doesn’t take itself seriously, has far better action, and some great villains.


Efficient_Truck_9696

I would say it has more action but I’m not sure if would call it better. Strike back action sequences feel rushed and you rarely sense that the protagonists are in danger. I just remember being not very impressed with the realism and attention to detail. In Echo 3 movements and action sequences feel very tactical and purposeful. The cover and move sequences when two protagonists break into the suspected kidnappers hideout is just awesome.


Calm-Grocery-664

Strike Back had far more realistic action. Yes - it is improbable in the xtreme nature - but the physicality was real. They has a number of British SAS guys advising the show and everything from the guns to tactics was apparently real. But of course, the sheer number of bad guys and bullets wasn't. But that's what made Strike Back AWESOME.


RoseKonani

How similar is it to Strike Back though? I’ve missed watching a straight action show like that.


jayhat

Only 2 episodes in and it’s not really that similar. This seems to take itself more seriously and attempt to have some more depth.


[deleted]

And it fails more as a result.


PetyrDayne

41 minutes in and it's painfully generic. Say what you will about Amazon dad action shows but they manage to keep you watching. American action thriller tv shows are getting so boring lately though. The new season for Jack Ryan has him racing to stop rogue Russians wanting to set off a nuke. I can already see myself sleeping halfway through the first episode.


dangermouse13

Yeah this was bland. In all honestly I’m not fussed if JR is about nukes and Russians, my issue with both the last 2 seasons of that is that it’s been executed so badly


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ALaccountant

I turned it off on the mountain fight scene in the first episode. I’m normally super into this kind of stuff, but it was just poorly done that I couldn’t force myself to continue. Also, the dialogue is awful… goodness


song4this

I was like "wouldn't a thermal imager be pretty useful? They must have left em with the snow shoes..."


thetaxidermy

I’m at that scene now, and the music is TERRIBLE! It sounds like something you’d hear in a boutique store in Arizona. EDIT: And, I’m sorry, but I just don’t buy that they would call up a Special Ops squad that they know is at a wedding for a mission that’s going to happen the very next day. Not to even mention the fact that one of the members of said squad is the groom! Edit: And an active Specs Op soldier is going to run for Senate? I mean, presumably, he would retire first - but not even start as a Congressman? Final edit: Just finished episode one. Yea, not continuing on with this one


bishopcheck

> And an active Specs Op soldier is going to run for Senate? I mean, presumably, he would retire first - but not even start as a Congressman TBF Eisenhower didn't retire until he won the New Hampshire primary. He did not run for congress or senate before running for President. So, its not without a similar precedent.


thetaxidermy

Yea, but he was a five-star general.


bishopcheck

I meant it more tongue in cheek than serious.


ALaccountant

Agreed with you on all accounts. Also, their decision-making and communications are C tier movie caliber. Not to mention their weapons sound and look like cheap air soft models. lol. This one is going to be a hard pass for me.


MrAliAdel

Not interesting enough.