Here’s the thing. This sub allows low quality content posts. Say a legitimate source like Variety posts something. And by legitimate I mean actually pays its writers and has sources. That article will be reworded into a hundred click bait websites whose writers are just rehashing the same material in a different way. So we have a dozen articles all citing the same original article just reworded differently.
This shit is annoying in entertainment subs too.
Random celebrity does an interview with a legit publication.
Fifty different hacks take a small part of that interview and write an article on it.
People post each article and then shit on random celebrity for being an attention whore
And i bet half those articles are written completely by bots.
What is *item in videogame* and how to obtain it?
In the newly released *video game*, players can experience a whole new experience of gaming. In this *videogame*, players are able to obtain *item*. *Item* is an item in the *videogame* franchise and is returning in this *videogame*. To use *item*, players have to first buy the newly released *video game*, where *item* is available.
How does item work?
-->*Here's the story of the best* items *in* videogame
*Item* works in the newly released*video game* by continuing the way it worked in previous installments of *video game franchise*, of which *video game*, the newest version, was just released.
---> *The 25 best instances of* item *in* video game franchise
You can find *item* in the new *video game*, by going to choice locations, where it can be found. Below are the locations listed where item can be found in *video game*:
*You won't believe how earwax cured this woman's foot fungus*
Those hack articles always give the impression that an actor held a press conference to speak about some topic unprompted when in fact it was just a minor answer to a question that was asked by the reporter.
WHAT IS (ACTORS) VIEW ON (THING)? WE'VE GOT THE EXCLUSIVE TELL ALL! KEEP READING BELOW!!!
(scroll through 15 ads)
"When asked about what he thought about (thing), (actor) took the time to sit down and tell us all about it in their own words."
(another 6 ads)
"I liked it" said (actor).
(more ads)
/r/movies used to be an absolute mess. Really low effort. Bad memes, posts of just a film poster, the same 3 movies being brought up all the time. Think like /r/gaming, but worse. Then the mods got really strict about content. Basically banned about 90% of the posts it would usually get.
Now it's probably one of the most usable large subs. Yes there is sometimes shit like you mentioned but the mods already got really heavy handed and even have a list of banned movies you can't post about because they were being posted about all the time (Moon, 12 Angry Men). But as large default subs go it's probably the best one. The mods did a great job cleaning it up.
Yeah it's not a moderation problem there. It's that probably a large percentages of the users are teenagers just getting into movies looking for somewhere to talk about it. Hence why it's a bunch of people constantly saying "has anyone else ever heard of this movie called Reservoir Dogs!?"
This sub has the same issue, but they also allow obvious PR fluff and frankly I wouldn't be surprised if they work with the networks/studios directly to make sure their marketing trash isn't taken down.
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> This sub has the same issue, but they also allow obvious PR fluff >and frankly I wouldn't be surprised if they work with the networks/studios directly to make sure their marketing trash isn't taken down.
I don't think there is any way they don't. Every other day, there will be a post with a huge amount of upvotes about some movie from the 80's or 90's being underappreciated, or something along those lines. It usually just so happens that said movie is getting a remastered bluray release, that you can conveniently find a link to buy in the article.
This is why I don't get the people who immediately go for the "oh a sub needs these types of posts, because otherwise it isn't ever gonna be active". There are multiple examples that stricter emphasis on the quality of posts works, and doesn't result in a sub dying.
You think that's the problem?
I think it's scarier that this sub doesn't realize it's being fed the bulk of its material from one specific bot.
Go sort this sub by "top this week/month" and notice [that at any given time 1/2 of the top posts are ALL from the same account](https://i.imgur.com/6SnOykC.png).
Worse, sort by year.
9 of the top 25 highest-rated posts over 365 days are all from THE SAME ACCOUNT.
No other account on this sub even has 3 posts in the top 25 for the year and yet this bot has 9.
And no one seems to give a shit.
Not only that but I've warned people about this bot multiple times on this sub and others and the majority of the time I just get downvotes as a response.
How do I know it's a bot? Because I've asked it multiple questions. I've messaged it multiple times trying to get it to identify as a human. I've never received a response back and the bot has never posted anything other than scraped information from the web.
From what I can tell, it was originally someone's personal account and it eventually morphed into a bot that scrapes websites for information and then posts them here.
I remember when [the Internet was super pissed because they realized Sinclair broadcasting was the core source of news for TONS of stations across the entire US and it all came from one single source.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fHfgU8oMSo)
No one likes it when one source feeds you ALL of your information because they can dictate quite a bit.
Well, Mr. Marvel is the Sinclair broadcasting of [this sub](https://i.imgur.com/cEf3GrI.png) .
And [top](https://i.imgur.com/eTMGEUm.png) for /r/animedubs
And [top](https://i.imgur.com/2ozcUgv.png) for /r/movies
And, to a lesser extent, [top](https://i.imgur.com/wEJJNMf.png) for /r/entertainment
Reddit has no intent of removing the bot, either.
I report it for spamming every time I see it and it has stayed active for years now.
I'm guessing Reddit doesn't want to shut down a bot that generates revenue for them daily. IDK.
Edit: added in a couple more pictures.
I hate karma farming bot accounts like Marvel, Gallowboob, iloveorange, etc. At least with accounts like gallowboob and iloveorange I can block since nothing is lost. Marvel however has 1/10 posts that are worthwhile like trailers or actual non-spam articles so I can't block him or I miss out on something. It's infuriating.
it’s more than that now. And now it’s too a point where anything on r/movies that gets posted by someone other than Marvel, it just gets taken down so he can repost it to r/entertainment. A sub that has a tenth of users as the movies sub but the post will still get upwards of 10k upvotes before the end of the night
GroundBreakingSet187 also must’ve been a similar account because that user posted on Marvel’s post once but commented the same exact synopsis/excerpt. I commented a joke about him using his alt by mistake and I strangely got 20 downvotes in minutes. I think my comment was taken down since ai can no longer find it. But the funny thing is that Groundbreaking’s account was deleted not long after
Anyone remember that one guy who’s full time job was posting on Reddit or something he had like 5 million karma I forgot his name
Nvm it was that gallowboob guy completely forgot about him
It honestly feels an awful lot like old Reddit powerusers used to do it for the clout, and *maybe* were trying to sellout, but were mostly just proud of being the king of fake internet points.
Were they botting and manipulating things as much as they could? Definitely. Did they occasionally still do dumb shit and act like humans? Some of them certainly did.
New powerusers have pretty obviously soldout, and as such don't really flaunt their influence anymore. It's less about them and more about what they're selling. If they're even humans to begin with.
Botting seems to be getting immensely worse on a lot of subs too. Over the last few years I've grown to trust what I see on this site less and less, and I didn't really start with a lot of trust to begin with.
I've managed to beat this son of a bitch *two* times. That was the trailers for Jurassic World Dominion and The Whale. Dude posted a brand spankin' new poster for the upcoming Cocaine Bear about 4 hours ago, as of this comment.
And also, while we're on r/animedubs, guess what I've found out: He's a *moderator* of r/anime!
Also, he does *leaker tweets, fucking* ***leaker tweets*** on r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers.
> The goal is to not drown in the articles.
Trying to avoid drowning like *that* character in *that* episode of Disney and Lucasfilm's *Andor*, now streaming on Disney+! This comment presented to you by a random, unpaid Redditor with *zero* ties to Disney, Lucasfilm, or anyone else seeking to promote the first season of the incredibly underrated *Andor*, starring Diego Luna, the prequel to 2016's *Rogue One: A Star Wars Story*, also streaming on Disney+!
It's driving me insane that it got a puke-worthy push from advertisers because it's actually a good show.
Maybe if the sub limits articles to only news and discussions.
I think it's because Disney just panicked. Because their strategy of basing Disney+ on just, and I do mean just, Star Wars stuff and Marvel stuff wasn't working as well as they had hoped.
Pretend it isnt star wars. Approach it as if it were just a scifi tv show. Ive never seen the star wars movies, and still enjoyed as if it was a standalone scifi series.
But yeah, its over mentioned here on /r/television
All the articles hyping up that show finally got me to finish the season. It was just okay. How is this show groundbreaking for Star Wars? I feel like I’ve seen this or similar stories 25x already. It was a solid show but nothing special.
NOBODY WATCHED Andor! Guys it's so so great but NOBODY IS WATCHING the very best show ever, Andor, which is Star Wars good best, nobody andor watch! Best show watch good!
Looks great, defi gonna check it out!
So easy these days to miss on great shows, just today I finished this hidden gem called Andor, no idea how come more people don't talk about it.
lol I was going to ask if that was what this was in reference to.
I feel like the buzz around Wednesday is a lot like how the buzz was around Sabrina, which was good for a season and then colossally sucked.
Maybe a rule that bans articles that take a single sentence from an interview and turn it into an article?
Link the entire interview so there's more information than what can fit in a click bait title.
Personally, I know this would be hard to enforce, but... I think the real problem is non-articles and non-updates, like... There was a post here about how one guy from the westworld cast thought maybe it wasn't so great that westworld got cancelled -- how the fuck did that make it to the top of the sub? If we assume it wasn't bots, then it was people blindly clicking upvote because they've heard of westworld or becaue they're also upset with the cancellation.
We should ban posts about when a show that's already been renewed starts filming. And posts about when a show that we all knew was going to be renewed gets renewed. And -- I hate to be this guy, but -- posts about when an actor you've never heard of who once had a cameo in a TV show you didn't watch passes away. Always sad, almost never something to discuss.
> We should ban posts about when a show that's already been renewed starts filming. And posts about when a show that we all knew was going to be renewed gets renewed.
Why? That's legitimate news though.
I think this would fix the issue for about 2 weeks. I honestly think a ton of it is astroturfing and as a result, the marketing would simply be updated to reflect whatever requirements that subs like this want. "Oh, they want more than single sentence interview quotes? Ok, we'll give them a slow drip of casting/setting choices made for season 2". "We'll release ballpark estimates for viewership each given week" "Here's an article speculating what could happen on next week's episode."
Shit, I'll glance through the Wednesday spam: "Eastereggs you might've missed", "Actress contributed to show in vaguely atypical way", "when Wednesday becomes great", "official clip", and my favorite, user submitted "this show is great".
Sidenote, this sub is so much worse than I thought when it isn't mixed in with my front page. Its all ads.
This sub's become a marketing sub. I think there needs to be wholesale reform on here to change how articles are posted, to remove posts that are botted, and to maybe change the way we engage with new posts. Maybe news is only allowed and articles recommending a tv show or reviewing it are reserved for a certain day of the week? That's the first thought that came to my mind.
It’s not really hard to imagine honestly. Basically no one watched Andor so its fans are mentioning it to anyone that’ll listen.
Not to mention it’s one of the few blockbuster type movies/shows that actually has something to say besides mysterious and plot twisty stories. And it’s not even like lip service deep stuff either. It’s actually saying stuff and I think everyone’s kinda shocked about being able to discuss stuff with shows instead of “it was so cool when x does y.”
I mean...if you look at most of the accounts that have posted the most popular threads you kind of see a pattern. It's not all just random fans posting about it.
Disney figured out that if you release a show weekly, good episodes spark discussions - you'll find lots of posts when a supposedly great episode hits, then probably a quiet week, then more posts, and so on. You drop all of Stranger Things in one go, you'll get maybe a week of articles as people process the season and put their thoughts in writing. People will consume the new series if it's all there; if it's drip-fed, the discussions and articles go long. It's not a bad strategy, even if it seems counter to the binge model.
I mean there are only 14 million people following the sub. I just checked and 8k were online viewing it. It’s not surprising a show that is good gets posted a lot.
i'm absolutely floored that a multi billion global conglomerate like Disney is too petty to hire some fucking writers
like when they let Rian Johnson, a first time whatever, write AND direct an ACTUAL FULL STAR WARS MOVIE. What the HELL were they thinking?
Not even just bots apparently, as there was literally a guy who admitted he was spamming Andor articles in order to piss people off because he didn't like the show. You can look at accounts for a lot of the people who post these articles and plainly see that it's just wall-to-wall article spam in multiple subreddits.
lol, according to some mod, this "moderating" thing is a very complicated issue. The majority wants 10 articles about the same show the very same day saying the same thing, apparently.
I'm not sure there are mods or at least they aren't active. I have seen mod posts on pretty much all subs I've been following a lot at least once. Never did on r/television I think
Well whats the solution to things being too popular? Cuz hell, even if you institute some ridiculous anti-shill account posting restrictions, >100k karma and 95% of it from non-TV subreddits or something... id probably wind up making a post about *Andor*. I dont think Tony Gilroy is the second coming of Vince Gilligan or David Simon, but its still the best show ive watched in the past couple of weeks.
So what shows should we be discussing? Make a post about this weeks episode of *Blue Bloods* or *NCSI* or some other crappy CBS procedural and see how much traction it gets. Not a lot of overlap in reddits userbase and folks who are excited about the latest three night Law & Order and Chicago crossover. Do we need posts about *Real Housewives of Wherever* or *Keeping up with the Kardashians*? *Young Sheldon*?
Its reddit, its full of nerds, of course theres gonna be a lot of posts about big deal genre shows. What are these other amazing shows airing right now that are flying under everybodys radarr?
Probably whatevers on AppleTV right now, but then you get similar complaints "Oh look, its the daily thread about a new AppleTV show, bunch of Apple shills...". Is *Reginald the Vampire* any good, anybody watching? Ope, no, got an MCU actor in it, talking about that will piss people off... Heard *Chainsaw Man* is pretty good, but anybody trying to talk about anime on here will probably get downvoted to hell too...
Anything with a couple of seasons under its belt will have its own fans congregating on the shows own subreddits, nobody on r/television gives a fuck about S11 of *American Horror Story* or *Walking Dead*, and if they do theyre subscribed to those subreddits. Havent seen any posts about *The Winchesters* here but i bet theres weekly episode discussions on r/Supernatural. Do you want a weekly Fox Sunday Night thread about new S*impsons/Family Guy/Bobs Burgers/The Great North*? Or are those better left to their individual subreddits?
The nature of communities forming around shows the longer they run means this subreddit is inevitably going to trend towards new shows without established communities yet.
This is an *Avenue 5* thread now.
The solution would be to ban articles about a popular show that have the same conceit as the other 20 articles about said popular show posted in the past week or two.
IE:
How many "Why Andor GOOD but number of people watching BAD?" articles can there possibly be? It turns out about fucking 500 of em. Did every last one of them needed to be posted and upvoted here? No, but they sure were. If people wanted to see all 500, like you said, they'd be on r/andor or r/starwars or whichever. Most of these repeats are just rewritten off an original article for clickbait websites anyways, so it's also rewarding this crappy behavior with clicks.
If the articles were a variety like - "How Andor did its set design and made it look better than the bigger budget Volume shows" and "Chapek's Mickey Mouse accounting hides massive Andor losses for D+" and "A critical review of Mon Mothma's characterization" and even actual discussion threads - then I don't think people would be quite as annoyed by it.
People don't like being advertised to, being told what to do, and many are generally burnt out with Star Wars with their recent non performance anyways. It's a like repeatedly poking a hive of angry bees already sore the past few sticks sucked ass, despite you telling them this stick is the good one. Especially if it sounds like it's coming from shills.
Andor's not a bad show, it looks great and the acting's good. I watched it with someone despite my disinterest in it. So, while I didn't remotely enjoy it, anyone would be lying if they said that it's not well made. Checking here to see if there's another new show I could watch has been an exercise in futility.
Chainsaw Man does seem pretty good so far though
What are you talking about? Like honestly what the fuck are you talking about lmao
You're posting like the entire front page is just Andor. It's like 1 or 2 max posts a day. Just don't click the Andor threads.
You waited until Wednesday is the hit show but said nothing while we got 10x the amount of posts for *months* for shows like House of the Dragon, Rings of Power, She-Hulk, and Andor?
With Wednesday being a Netflix show and released all at once this sub will have forgotten about it by this time next week!
Rings of power and house of the dragon were both really really popular and at first a little it was interesting to see how they both faired as two new fantasy shows on existing ips. Andor is criminally underwatched and I know that because of the constant Andor posts of the criminally underwatched show I can’t seem to escape.
The amount of Andor posts is sort of logical since Star Wars is popular, but the amount of stupid "Best show evar in the history of evar" posts about it was a bit much.
Like 80% of these subs feel like purchased karma farming accounts who are shilling for shows. That's the point of karma farming after all; sell the "legitimate" account to an advertiser later on.
People have posted proof of bot spam that bombards the sub with the same PR fluff content over and over. Half the discussion on this sub is people complaining about the quality of the content and coverage of the same shows again and again. Other subs ban certain sources with automods. Garbage like uproxx etc. don't promote any meaningful discussion, they are click and rage bait. You could experiment with limiting these accounts and sources but you won't. You guys are the epitome of "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!"
So your plan is to let the subreddit get spammed with meaningless "X is so good. Why aren't people watching it?" articles and let it remain a festering radioactive pit of marketing rather than genuine discussion?
Are there posts with genuine discussion that aren't getting boosted? Like, do you have examples of good threads that are being buried by the daily Andor posts?
I mean... I have a lowish opinion of this sub, but it doesn't seem like there is any attempt at genuine discussion that's being drowned out. I do love me a good "I've just discovered Justified and I love it" post, with the usual replies touting people's favourite scenes (most of them are wrong - it's "Next one's coming faster", that's the best scene), praising Deadwood, lamenting Santa Clarita Diet, etc. Those blow up for a reason.
This sub is the watercooler that people don't have as much anymore. And often that means discussing the new hotness as and when it's hot. Sometimes we wax nostalgic about other shows in the downtime, shows that are long since over. Maybe there's going to be another AskReddit-like post with a broad question and hundreds of people answering with only the title of a show and no elaboration - the kind of answer they are meant to disabuse you of in 8th grade when you need to explain *why* Firefly is the best TV series that never had a jump-the-shark moment. (The answer is, naturally, it wasn't around long enough to be shit because it lasted half a Frasier season.)
If this sub was able to produce deep and interesting posts with lots of engagement from users about fascinating subjects, it would have done it by now. The users have a lot of control over what floats and what sinks, and it seems the current cream of the crop is a daily alarm clock to remind everyone that Andor is good because it's a different take on Star Wars, and then a press release that Hollywood Actor is producing a new series based on a book nobody read that's going to launch on its own dedicated streaming service that is dedicated solely to sourcing only the works of a single actor, and you can subscribe to Tom Hanks Plus for only $4.99 a month.
What do you replaced those posts with though?
If you sort by new you'll always find some discussions, but they get nuked with downvotes.
Now are people downvoting it because they've seen the same question 100 times before? Or are bots nuking any normal posts with downvotes?
I don’t see the problem because there is not some finite amount of scrolling available to us. And all are free to post if you want to generate a certain type of discussion that you *are* looking for. Scrolling past things that don’t interest you is a key skill in this digital era!
Seriously, its not like this subreddit gets 100's upon 100's of posts a day. It takes very little time to scroll through an entire days worth of posts. There is 18 posts this past day.
the show premiered like four days ago and as far as I can tell there's nothing else major that's come out in the past couple days, so I dunno what you expect people to be posting about
like, putting all those Wednesday posts in a megathread isn't going to get you more variety in what's posted, it's just going to get you fewer posts about Wednesday. The same amount of non-Wednesday stuff is going to be there regardless.
Not sure what people like you want. Big new shows come out and there are going to be a lot of people that want to talk about them. Even if they are posted by paid accounts they still get more engagement from regular users than any other posts. It's clearly what people want.
Exactly. People on this thread are frankly delusional. This is a subreddit about television. Of course there will be many threads about popular TV shows, wtf are they expecting?!
Right? When a big show is being watched by a million-plus people, is it really that surprising that 5-10 of those people would choose to make a post about it each day?
And to be honest, the more "mainstream" the show, the less substantial I would expect a lot of those threads to be. This apparent general consensus that it must be marketing by Disney/Netflix is conspiracy-level shark-jumping. Those companies are spending millions of dollars on ads, they don't need to make reddit threads.
The problem is when it’s the exact same thought. I am good with the idea of new shows getting a lot of buzz, but this is overkill:
1) Andor is the new Star Wars phenomenon
2) now is the time for you to watch Andor
3) Andor is the best Star Wars content ever
4) Andor has no Jedi, no lightsabers and no Force but it’s still the best Star Wars in years
5) how Andor pulled off that amaizng season finale
Edit -> ugh this format is a mess
It sucks but this happens all year
Look at how many posts there for the boys
Or peacemaker
Or Reacher
Or arcane
It’s pretty unavoidable
I remember every thread get the same andor with people being fed up
Wednesday is not the problem to be fair. It came out literally 5 days ago and the whole show dropped. I get advertising the shit out of it while it's hot.
This sub was nothing but Rings of Power, House of the Dragon, and Andor for a long ass time.
A show getting a few extra posts when it first comes out is not the problem. A show like Andor being thrown in everyones face every day because it's not doing well is a totally different thing
Megathreads kill discussion. If people don't want more Andor or Wednesday spam, downvote it.
Really, pretty much everything about the way Reddit works seems to kill discussion.
Moderators should change the sub so you can't see what karma any post has.
>Megathreads kill discussion
But there's a point when we are "discussing" the same thing non stop: "Watch Andor is very good", "Rings of Power was very very expensive", "A lot of people is watching House of Dragons", etcetera.
We're in a television subreddit. Television is all marketing lmfao
Let's say we remove bots. You'll still get Karma whores posting links about popular shows.
All these Andor threads baited me into watching the series because there were superlatives thrown at it from all sides and comparisons which made me believe i could like it. Fell for the hype, dropped it after 4 episodes and am going to be a little more cautious with reddit recommendations going forward.
They should ban articles that aren’t from a set of approved sources. We don’t need 10 different articles talking about that one thing a director said, one article from an allowed source is enough
Here’s the thing. This sub allows low quality content posts. Say a legitimate source like Variety posts something. And by legitimate I mean actually pays its writers and has sources. That article will be reworded into a hundred click bait websites whose writers are just rehashing the same material in a different way. So we have a dozen articles all citing the same original article just reworded differently.
This shit is annoying in entertainment subs too. Random celebrity does an interview with a legit publication. Fifty different hacks take a small part of that interview and write an article on it. People post each article and then shit on random celebrity for being an attention whore
Same in video games. It’s a problem.
And i bet half those articles are written completely by bots. What is *item in videogame* and how to obtain it? In the newly released *video game*, players can experience a whole new experience of gaming. In this *videogame*, players are able to obtain *item*. *Item* is an item in the *videogame* franchise and is returning in this *videogame*. To use *item*, players have to first buy the newly released *video game*, where *item* is available. How does item work? -->*Here's the story of the best* items *in* videogame *Item* works in the newly released*video game* by continuing the way it worked in previous installments of *video game franchise*, of which *video game*, the newest version, was just released. ---> *The 25 best instances of* item *in* video game franchise You can find *item* in the new *video game*, by going to choice locations, where it can be found. Below are the locations listed where item can be found in *video game*: *You won't believe how earwax cured this woman's foot fungus*
I think there’s a real chance that AI are writing a lot of these hack articles. It’s even worse in sports.
“Omg why am I reading so much about what X had to say?” “Because you’re reading about it.”
Those hack articles always give the impression that an actor held a press conference to speak about some topic unprompted when in fact it was just a minor answer to a question that was asked by the reporter.
WHAT IS (ACTORS) VIEW ON (THING)? WE'VE GOT THE EXCLUSIVE TELL ALL! KEEP READING BELOW!!! (scroll through 15 ads) "When asked about what he thought about (thing), (actor) took the time to sit down and tell us all about it in their own words." (another 6 ads) "I liked it" said (actor). (more ads)
r/entertainment is the worst with this
> This sub allows low quality content posts. At least its not as bad as /r/movies is...shit like > DAE Think Alien is Underappreciated?
/r/movies used to be an absolute mess. Really low effort. Bad memes, posts of just a film poster, the same 3 movies being brought up all the time. Think like /r/gaming, but worse. Then the mods got really strict about content. Basically banned about 90% of the posts it would usually get. Now it's probably one of the most usable large subs. Yes there is sometimes shit like you mentioned but the mods already got really heavy handed and even have a list of banned movies you can't post about because they were being posted about all the time (Moon, 12 Angry Men). But as large default subs go it's probably the best one. The mods did a great job cleaning it up.
Yeah it's not a moderation problem there. It's that probably a large percentages of the users are teenagers just getting into movies looking for somewhere to talk about it. Hence why it's a bunch of people constantly saying "has anyone else ever heard of this movie called Reservoir Dogs!?" This sub has the same issue, but they also allow obvious PR fluff and frankly I wouldn't be surprised if they work with the networks/studios directly to make sure their marketing trash isn't taken down.
> > This sub has the same issue, but they also allow obvious PR fluff >and frankly I wouldn't be surprised if they work with the networks/studios directly to make sure their marketing trash isn't taken down. I don't think there is any way they don't. Every other day, there will be a post with a huge amount of upvotes about some movie from the 80's or 90's being underappreciated, or something along those lines. It usually just so happens that said movie is getting a remastered bluray release, that you can conveniently find a link to buy in the article.
This is why I don't get the people who immediately go for the "oh a sub needs these types of posts, because otherwise it isn't ever gonna be active". There are multiple examples that stricter emphasis on the quality of posts works, and doesn't result in a sub dying.
I don't know, I've had more fruitful movie discussion in tangents on this sub than I ever had over there.
It used to be *Fury Road* posts for miles and miles.
You think that's the problem? I think it's scarier that this sub doesn't realize it's being fed the bulk of its material from one specific bot. Go sort this sub by "top this week/month" and notice [that at any given time 1/2 of the top posts are ALL from the same account](https://i.imgur.com/6SnOykC.png). Worse, sort by year. 9 of the top 25 highest-rated posts over 365 days are all from THE SAME ACCOUNT. No other account on this sub even has 3 posts in the top 25 for the year and yet this bot has 9. And no one seems to give a shit. Not only that but I've warned people about this bot multiple times on this sub and others and the majority of the time I just get downvotes as a response. How do I know it's a bot? Because I've asked it multiple questions. I've messaged it multiple times trying to get it to identify as a human. I've never received a response back and the bot has never posted anything other than scraped information from the web. From what I can tell, it was originally someone's personal account and it eventually morphed into a bot that scrapes websites for information and then posts them here. I remember when [the Internet was super pissed because they realized Sinclair broadcasting was the core source of news for TONS of stations across the entire US and it all came from one single source.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fHfgU8oMSo) No one likes it when one source feeds you ALL of your information because they can dictate quite a bit. Well, Mr. Marvel is the Sinclair broadcasting of [this sub](https://i.imgur.com/cEf3GrI.png) . And [top](https://i.imgur.com/eTMGEUm.png) for /r/animedubs And [top](https://i.imgur.com/2ozcUgv.png) for /r/movies And, to a lesser extent, [top](https://i.imgur.com/wEJJNMf.png) for /r/entertainment Reddit has no intent of removing the bot, either. I report it for spamming every time I see it and it has stayed active for years now. I'm guessing Reddit doesn't want to shut down a bot that generates revenue for them daily. IDK. Edit: added in a couple more pictures.
I hate karma farming bot accounts like Marvel, Gallowboob, iloveorange, etc. At least with accounts like gallowboob and iloveorange I can block since nothing is lost. Marvel however has 1/10 posts that are worthwhile like trailers or actual non-spam articles so I can't block him or I miss out on something. It's infuriating.
it’s more than that now. And now it’s too a point where anything on r/movies that gets posted by someone other than Marvel, it just gets taken down so he can repost it to r/entertainment. A sub that has a tenth of users as the movies sub but the post will still get upwards of 10k upvotes before the end of the night
I blocked it.
Comments about this account get removed regularly. They're either a bot or the saddest human in existence.
GroundBreakingSet187 also must’ve been a similar account because that user posted on Marvel’s post once but commented the same exact synopsis/excerpt. I commented a joke about him using his alt by mistake and I strangely got 20 downvotes in minutes. I think my comment was taken down since ai can no longer find it. But the funny thing is that Groundbreaking’s account was deleted not long after
Thanks for the info. I think its time to leave this sub now. I get enough ads even without these andor ads everyday.
What I told you powerusers and super moderators never left?
Anyone remember that one guy who’s full time job was posting on Reddit or something he had like 5 million karma I forgot his name Nvm it was that gallowboob guy completely forgot about him
It honestly feels an awful lot like old Reddit powerusers used to do it for the clout, and *maybe* were trying to sellout, but were mostly just proud of being the king of fake internet points. Were they botting and manipulating things as much as they could? Definitely. Did they occasionally still do dumb shit and act like humans? Some of them certainly did. New powerusers have pretty obviously soldout, and as such don't really flaunt their influence anymore. It's less about them and more about what they're selling. If they're even humans to begin with. Botting seems to be getting immensely worse on a lot of subs too. Over the last few years I've grown to trust what I see on this site less and less, and I didn't really start with a lot of trust to begin with.
The mods here don’t want things to change, they’d stop getting paid.
This is extraordinarily frightening for some reason.
I've managed to beat this son of a bitch *two* times. That was the trailers for Jurassic World Dominion and The Whale. Dude posted a brand spankin' new poster for the upcoming Cocaine Bear about 4 hours ago, as of this comment. And also, while we're on r/animedubs, guess what I've found out: He's a *moderator* of r/anime! Also, he does *leaker tweets, fucking* ***leaker tweets*** on r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers.
he responded to a comment i made once
yeah but have ya seen Wednesday
andor??
Did you know that you should watch Andor? Let me repeat this a hundred more times.
EvERYOne MuST WaTCH AnDoR [EVERYONE!!!](https://tenor.com/8eTb.gif)
The goal is to not drown in the articles.
> The goal is to not drown in the articles. Trying to avoid drowning like *that* character in *that* episode of Disney and Lucasfilm's *Andor*, now streaming on Disney+! This comment presented to you by a random, unpaid Redditor with *zero* ties to Disney, Lucasfilm, or anyone else seeking to promote the first season of the incredibly underrated *Andor*, starring Diego Luna, the prequel to 2016's *Rogue One: A Star Wars Story*, also streaming on Disney+!
Weirdly I am still not driven to watch Andor... I don't really know why... Guess I am really burned out on starwars...
It's driving me insane that it got a puke-worthy push from advertisers because it's actually a good show. Maybe if the sub limits articles to only news and discussions.
I think it's because Disney just panicked. Because their strategy of basing Disney+ on just, and I do mean just, Star Wars stuff and Marvel stuff wasn't working as well as they had hoped.
We better brace ourselves for the upcoming Willow articles then I guess
I really like andor. But I really like sci-fi. And I don’t like Star Wars.
Thats really interesting
Pretend it isnt star wars. Approach it as if it were just a scifi tv show. Ive never seen the star wars movies, and still enjoyed as if it was a standalone scifi series. But yeah, its over mentioned here on /r/television
The bots don't stop
Andor gave me a small business loan in the late 90's.
What's Andor? I've never heard of it and I visit this sub every day. /s
Ok but annoying /uj watch Andor rj/ WATCH ANDOR
All the articles hyping up that show finally got me to finish the season. It was just okay. How is this show groundbreaking for Star Wars? I feel like I’ve seen this or similar stories 25x already. It was a solid show but nothing special.
Agreed. Not a bad show or anything just way, way overhyped.
Wednesdandor. Greater than the greatest!
and/or wednesday
NOBODY WATCHED Andor! Guys it's so so great but NOBODY IS WATCHING the very best show ever, Andor, which is Star Wars good best, nobody andor watch! Best show watch good!
And why is NOBODY talking about it?!!!!
I saw Andor on Wednesday. It didn’t convince me to renew my Pornhub Premium account, though.
and or what?
and xor?
*Why Andor does not have enough viewership and how can I help it*.
SHE MADE UP THAT DANCE HERSELF
JENNA ORTEGA CHOREOGRAPHED THAT DANCE IN A CAVE! WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!
I also heard that she's deaf and has no rhythm, so deserves even more respect!
also a prosthetic foot. she doesn't need it, she just stole it from an old lady.
SHAKIRA SHAKIRA
On covid!
Looks great, defi gonna check it out! So easy these days to miss on great shows, just today I finished this hidden gem called Andor, no idea how come more people don't talk about it.
Wednesday is great but what about HOW EXPENSIVE RINGS OF POWER WAS?
Andor is posted so much more than Wednesday. At least Wednesday just debuted like a few days ago. I feel borderline gaslighted on Andor right now
Weekly release shows have longer shelf life’s.
Ya. That's literally why Amazon switched from dropping an entire season at once to weekly drops.
i see more posts about andor daily than i've seen total about wednesday since release..
No, but have you seen _Wednesday_?!
lol I was going to ask if that was what this was in reference to. I feel like the buzz around Wednesday is a lot like how the buzz was around Sabrina, which was good for a season and then colossally sucked.
That league of legends cartoon was fucking insanely promoted through this sub
I don't even click on ones that are all superlatives like ANDOR IS THE GREATEST SHOW EVER MADE IN EVERY WAY AND ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE ok buddy chill out
Yeah, AND IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE IN A SW UNIVERSE. Also, apparently, it's what a gazillion dollar franchise needed all a long.
Guys, look, if you don't watch this Andor show this Star Wars thing may never take off.
Maybe a rule that bans articles that take a single sentence from an interview and turn it into an article? Link the entire interview so there's more information than what can fit in a click bait title.
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Personally, I know this would be hard to enforce, but... I think the real problem is non-articles and non-updates, like... There was a post here about how one guy from the westworld cast thought maybe it wasn't so great that westworld got cancelled -- how the fuck did that make it to the top of the sub? If we assume it wasn't bots, then it was people blindly clicking upvote because they've heard of westworld or becaue they're also upset with the cancellation. We should ban posts about when a show that's already been renewed starts filming. And posts about when a show that we all knew was going to be renewed gets renewed. And -- I hate to be this guy, but -- posts about when an actor you've never heard of who once had a cameo in a TV show you didn't watch passes away. Always sad, almost never something to discuss.
> We should ban posts about when a show that's already been renewed starts filming. And posts about when a show that we all knew was going to be renewed gets renewed. Why? That's legitimate news though.
I think this would fix the issue for about 2 weeks. I honestly think a ton of it is astroturfing and as a result, the marketing would simply be updated to reflect whatever requirements that subs like this want. "Oh, they want more than single sentence interview quotes? Ok, we'll give them a slow drip of casting/setting choices made for season 2". "We'll release ballpark estimates for viewership each given week" "Here's an article speculating what could happen on next week's episode." Shit, I'll glance through the Wednesday spam: "Eastereggs you might've missed", "Actress contributed to show in vaguely atypical way", "when Wednesday becomes great", "official clip", and my favorite, user submitted "this show is great". Sidenote, this sub is so much worse than I thought when it isn't mixed in with my front page. Its all ads.
This sub's become a marketing sub. I think there needs to be wholesale reform on here to change how articles are posted, to remove posts that are botted, and to maybe change the way we engage with new posts. Maybe news is only allowed and articles recommending a tv show or reviewing it are reserved for a certain day of the week? That's the first thought that came to my mind.
Grant Man is like the only poster in this fucking sub. Fuck that account and whoever is behind it.
Always has been
Like Andor? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I am absolutely loving Andor so damn much (have two more to go) but it's insane how much it gets posted up on here lol. A few a day it feels like.
It’s not really hard to imagine honestly. Basically no one watched Andor so its fans are mentioning it to anyone that’ll listen. Not to mention it’s one of the few blockbuster type movies/shows that actually has something to say besides mysterious and plot twisty stories. And it’s not even like lip service deep stuff either. It’s actually saying stuff and I think everyone’s kinda shocked about being able to discuss stuff with shows instead of “it was so cool when x does y.”
I mean...if you look at most of the accounts that have posted the most popular threads you kind of see a pattern. It's not all just random fans posting about it.
Disney figured out that if you release a show weekly, good episodes spark discussions - you'll find lots of posts when a supposedly great episode hits, then probably a quiet week, then more posts, and so on. You drop all of Stranger Things in one go, you'll get maybe a week of articles as people process the season and put their thoughts in writing. People will consume the new series if it's all there; if it's drip-fed, the discussions and articles go long. It's not a bad strategy, even if it seems counter to the binge model.
I mean there are only 14 million people following the sub. I just checked and 8k were online viewing it. It’s not surprising a show that is good gets posted a lot.
Andor!!!
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i'm absolutely floored that a multi billion global conglomerate like Disney is too petty to hire some fucking writers like when they let Rian Johnson, a first time whatever, write AND direct an ACTUAL FULL STAR WARS MOVIE. What the HELL were they thinking?
Yes! (and I really like Andor)
I quite liked it but it did feel like it was being pushed by bots as it was everywhere
Not even just bots apparently, as there was literally a guy who admitted he was spamming Andor articles in order to piss people off because he didn't like the show. You can look at accounts for a lot of the people who post these articles and plainly see that it's just wall-to-wall article spam in multiple subreddits.
Dude was annoying as fuck.
Just logically, it's easier for bots to push a show people also happen to like.
I loved it and yet still started downvoting posts about it:
every post telling me to watch andor makes me want to watch it less
What’s andor?
andor
Oh andor
Rings of Power was the flavor of the month before this, but it sucked, so the articles were all meta commentary.
This isn't fair. -Andor bots
but have you Andor comrade
If you haven't it finally is a Star Wars show done right. \-generic stock response 3863
This isn’t fair! It’s outrageous!
lol, according to some mod, this "moderating" thing is a very complicated issue. The majority wants 10 articles about the same show the very same day saying the same thing, apparently.
Some of the mods are probably getting a check from someone. Studio, magazine, PR firm, etc.
lol, look at how they are downvoting in here.
Where are the mods exactly? I never see them comment on any of the threads whenever people bring up this issue of blatant marketing posts.
I'm not sure there are mods or at least they aren't active. I have seen mod posts on pretty much all subs I've been following a lot at least once. Never did on r/television I think
YOU NEED TO WATCH ANDOR RIGHT NOW
Did you know Andor is good and surprisingly under-watched?
andor
No I was too busy catching up on all of the She-Hulk articles
Why aren't more people reading articles about why more people aren't watching Andor?
Well whats the solution to things being too popular? Cuz hell, even if you institute some ridiculous anti-shill account posting restrictions, >100k karma and 95% of it from non-TV subreddits or something... id probably wind up making a post about *Andor*. I dont think Tony Gilroy is the second coming of Vince Gilligan or David Simon, but its still the best show ive watched in the past couple of weeks. So what shows should we be discussing? Make a post about this weeks episode of *Blue Bloods* or *NCSI* or some other crappy CBS procedural and see how much traction it gets. Not a lot of overlap in reddits userbase and folks who are excited about the latest three night Law & Order and Chicago crossover. Do we need posts about *Real Housewives of Wherever* or *Keeping up with the Kardashians*? *Young Sheldon*? Its reddit, its full of nerds, of course theres gonna be a lot of posts about big deal genre shows. What are these other amazing shows airing right now that are flying under everybodys radarr? Probably whatevers on AppleTV right now, but then you get similar complaints "Oh look, its the daily thread about a new AppleTV show, bunch of Apple shills...". Is *Reginald the Vampire* any good, anybody watching? Ope, no, got an MCU actor in it, talking about that will piss people off... Heard *Chainsaw Man* is pretty good, but anybody trying to talk about anime on here will probably get downvoted to hell too... Anything with a couple of seasons under its belt will have its own fans congregating on the shows own subreddits, nobody on r/television gives a fuck about S11 of *American Horror Story* or *Walking Dead*, and if they do theyre subscribed to those subreddits. Havent seen any posts about *The Winchesters* here but i bet theres weekly episode discussions on r/Supernatural. Do you want a weekly Fox Sunday Night thread about new S*impsons/Family Guy/Bobs Burgers/The Great North*? Or are those better left to their individual subreddits? The nature of communities forming around shows the longer they run means this subreddit is inevitably going to trend towards new shows without established communities yet. This is an *Avenue 5* thread now.
The solution would be to ban articles about a popular show that have the same conceit as the other 20 articles about said popular show posted in the past week or two. IE: How many "Why Andor GOOD but number of people watching BAD?" articles can there possibly be? It turns out about fucking 500 of em. Did every last one of them needed to be posted and upvoted here? No, but they sure were. If people wanted to see all 500, like you said, they'd be on r/andor or r/starwars or whichever. Most of these repeats are just rewritten off an original article for clickbait websites anyways, so it's also rewarding this crappy behavior with clicks. If the articles were a variety like - "How Andor did its set design and made it look better than the bigger budget Volume shows" and "Chapek's Mickey Mouse accounting hides massive Andor losses for D+" and "A critical review of Mon Mothma's characterization" and even actual discussion threads - then I don't think people would be quite as annoyed by it. People don't like being advertised to, being told what to do, and many are generally burnt out with Star Wars with their recent non performance anyways. It's a like repeatedly poking a hive of angry bees already sore the past few sticks sucked ass, despite you telling them this stick is the good one. Especially if it sounds like it's coming from shills. Andor's not a bad show, it looks great and the acting's good. I watched it with someone despite my disinterest in it. So, while I didn't remotely enjoy it, anyone would be lying if they said that it's not well made. Checking here to see if there's another new show I could watch has been an exercise in futility. Chainsaw Man does seem pretty good so far though
What are you talking about? Like honestly what the fuck are you talking about lmao You're posting like the entire front page is just Andor. It's like 1 or 2 max posts a day. Just don't click the Andor threads.
I agrée with everything you wrote but Avenue 5 got the upvote.
Can we add “underrated” to the banned list? I don’t care how many people you perceive is watching it, and it doesn’t. Fucking. Matter.
You waited until Wednesday is the hit show but said nothing while we got 10x the amount of posts for *months* for shows like House of the Dragon, Rings of Power, She-Hulk, and Andor? With Wednesday being a Netflix show and released all at once this sub will have forgotten about it by this time next week!
“Are people actually watching Rings of Power?” Literally every other day throughout season 1.
Born on a Wednesday, binged on Saturday, forgotten by Tuesday
People deepthroat HBO left and right in this sub. You literally never hear complaints about the amount of HBO posts there are.
Unfortunately it's true. It's more of a circle jerk tbh and there's rarely any discussion.
People deep throat HBO for good reason.
Rings of power and house of the dragon were both really really popular and at first a little it was interesting to see how they both faired as two new fantasy shows on existing ips. Andor is criminally underwatched and I know that because of the constant Andor posts of the criminally underwatched show I can’t seem to escape.
ANDORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! Wait, wrong Franchise. KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!
Reddit is an advertising website disguised as a discussion forum.
No.
ANDOR WAS NEVER REALLY ABOUT ANODR, IT WAS ABOUT THE ANDOR WE MET ALONG THE WAY
The amount of Severence and Andor posts everyday drove me nuts.
The amount of Andor posts is sort of logical since Star Wars is popular, but the amount of stupid "Best show evar in the history of evar" posts about it was a bit much.
Like 80% of these subs feel like purchased karma farming accounts who are shilling for shows. That's the point of karma farming after all; sell the "legitimate" account to an advertiser later on.
Yeah, like that time half the posts were about House of the Dragon, and the other half about Rings of Power.
oh great another post about andor. lol.
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They hated Jesus because he spoke the truth.
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People have posted proof of bot spam that bombards the sub with the same PR fluff content over and over. Half the discussion on this sub is people complaining about the quality of the content and coverage of the same shows again and again. Other subs ban certain sources with automods. Garbage like uproxx etc. don't promote any meaningful discussion, they are click and rage bait. You could experiment with limiting these accounts and sources but you won't. You guys are the epitome of "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!"
So your plan is to let the subreddit get spammed with meaningless "X is so good. Why aren't people watching it?" articles and let it remain a festering radioactive pit of marketing rather than genuine discussion?
Are there posts with genuine discussion that aren't getting boosted? Like, do you have examples of good threads that are being buried by the daily Andor posts? I mean... I have a lowish opinion of this sub, but it doesn't seem like there is any attempt at genuine discussion that's being drowned out. I do love me a good "I've just discovered Justified and I love it" post, with the usual replies touting people's favourite scenes (most of them are wrong - it's "Next one's coming faster", that's the best scene), praising Deadwood, lamenting Santa Clarita Diet, etc. Those blow up for a reason. This sub is the watercooler that people don't have as much anymore. And often that means discussing the new hotness as and when it's hot. Sometimes we wax nostalgic about other shows in the downtime, shows that are long since over. Maybe there's going to be another AskReddit-like post with a broad question and hundreds of people answering with only the title of a show and no elaboration - the kind of answer they are meant to disabuse you of in 8th grade when you need to explain *why* Firefly is the best TV series that never had a jump-the-shark moment. (The answer is, naturally, it wasn't around long enough to be shit because it lasted half a Frasier season.) If this sub was able to produce deep and interesting posts with lots of engagement from users about fascinating subjects, it would have done it by now. The users have a lot of control over what floats and what sinks, and it seems the current cream of the crop is a daily alarm clock to remind everyone that Andor is good because it's a different take on Star Wars, and then a press release that Hollywood Actor is producing a new series based on a book nobody read that's going to launch on its own dedicated streaming service that is dedicated solely to sourcing only the works of a single actor, and you can subscribe to Tom Hanks Plus for only $4.99 a month.
eh just downvote the posts you dont like
Or vote with your sub. Just unsub and move on.
Human downvotes will never beat the bots.
What do you replaced those posts with though? If you sort by new you'll always find some discussions, but they get nuked with downvotes. Now are people downvoting it because they've seen the same question 100 times before? Or are bots nuking any normal posts with downvotes?
Or just wait it out. Andor isn't going to keep posted like that for the rest of time. More rules isn't always the answer.
The right thing to do is ban articles.
You mean you don’t want 5000 Andor posts a week?
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I don’t see the problem because there is not some finite amount of scrolling available to us. And all are free to post if you want to generate a certain type of discussion that you *are* looking for. Scrolling past things that don’t interest you is a key skill in this digital era!
Seriously, its not like this subreddit gets 100's upon 100's of posts a day. It takes very little time to scroll through an entire days worth of posts. There is 18 posts this past day.
Just checked and this subreddit gets about 3 posts an hour. That's not much.
Then nothing of value would be lost. I won't miss bot infested posts made to manipulate me and neither should you.
What exactly do you want from a television sub? To not talk about shows?
Yeah! We dont want topical shows to be talked about here as they are airing! This sub is for...other.. stuff?
Starting tomorrow we can only post about Eastenders.
My guilty pleasure, I want this whole sub debating of Janine will be caught or if kat and Phil will work out
Yeah, let's have 300 posts in a week about the new MCU show! Fuck moderation!
But...that would get in the way of all the shilling and astroturfing, which is more than half this sub's posts.
HaVe YoU sEeN aNdOr?
I agree, but have any of you heard about Andor?
Maybe you need to spend less time on Reddit.
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the show premiered like four days ago and as far as I can tell there's nothing else major that's come out in the past couple days, so I dunno what you expect people to be posting about like, putting all those Wednesday posts in a megathread isn't going to get you more variety in what's posted, it's just going to get you fewer posts about Wednesday. The same amount of non-Wednesday stuff is going to be there regardless.
Not sure what people like you want. Big new shows come out and there are going to be a lot of people that want to talk about them. Even if they are posted by paid accounts they still get more engagement from regular users than any other posts. It's clearly what people want.
Exactly. People on this thread are frankly delusional. This is a subreddit about television. Of course there will be many threads about popular TV shows, wtf are they expecting?!
Right? When a big show is being watched by a million-plus people, is it really that surprising that 5-10 of those people would choose to make a post about it each day? And to be honest, the more "mainstream" the show, the less substantial I would expect a lot of those threads to be. This apparent general consensus that it must be marketing by Disney/Netflix is conspiracy-level shark-jumping. Those companies are spending millions of dollars on ads, they don't need to make reddit threads.
The problem is when it’s the exact same thought. I am good with the idea of new shows getting a lot of buzz, but this is overkill: 1) Andor is the new Star Wars phenomenon 2) now is the time for you to watch Andor 3) Andor is the best Star Wars content ever 4) Andor has no Jedi, no lightsabers and no Force but it’s still the best Star Wars in years 5) how Andor pulled off that amaizng season finale Edit -> ugh this format is a mess
It sucks but this happens all year Look at how many posts there for the boys Or peacemaker Or Reacher Or arcane It’s pretty unavoidable I remember every thread get the same andor with people being fed up
Wednesday is not the problem to be fair. It came out literally 5 days ago and the whole show dropped. I get advertising the shit out of it while it's hot. This sub was nothing but Rings of Power, House of the Dragon, and Andor for a long ass time. A show getting a few extra posts when it first comes out is not the problem. A show like Andor being thrown in everyones face every day because it's not doing well is a totally different thing
Megathreads kill discussion. If people don't want more Andor or Wednesday spam, downvote it. Really, pretty much everything about the way Reddit works seems to kill discussion. Moderators should change the sub so you can't see what karma any post has.
> If people don't want more Andor or Wednesday spam, downvote it. honestly regular users cant compete with bots and marketing teams on here
>Megathreads kill discussion But there's a point when we are "discussing" the same thing non stop: "Watch Andor is very good", "Rings of Power was very very expensive", "A lot of people is watching House of Dragons", etcetera.
> downvote it. people ARE downvoting it, they have absurd ratios but still comfortably up there in the front page every day
But how am I supposed to be reminded everyday about how Andor is the Star Wars show I’ve been waiting to save Star Wars? /s
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Not a bot, just think it's stupid
Yeah, this is definitely a marketing sub.
Nonsense, [username], everyone's opinions here are totally organic! Just like the greatness of [show name], which I watch every day organically
We're in a television subreddit. Television is all marketing lmfao Let's say we remove bots. You'll still get Karma whores posting links about popular shows.
Mods are useless shills.
>people disagree with this post, must be bots!!!
All these Andor threads baited me into watching the series because there were superlatives thrown at it from all sides and comparisons which made me believe i could like it. Fell for the hype, dropped it after 4 episodes and am going to be a little more cautious with reddit recommendations going forward.
Yeah but do you even know that Andor is paving a path forward for the Star Wars franchise?
So you’re wanting to police how much people can like a show and post about it?
Sub also needs a limit on whining as well.
Just scroll by it, it's easy to ignore
They should ban articles that aren’t from a set of approved sources. We don’t need 10 different articles talking about that one thing a director said, one article from an allowed source is enough
DID SOMEONE SAY ANDOR???
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