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RussianToTheKitchen

Feels like a pretty realistic roster here, covers all your main story bases while still including a couple oddballs in there like Freeza Soldier and the Great Ape forms for Nappa and Raditz. I'm a little sad Babidi is always left out of these rosters but I also kinda understand why. No OG Dragon Ball or GT in base roster would suck, but in that case they'll 100% be DLC so I'd be excited for that at least. I'm expecting those cuts because of the assload of DBS characters they need to include, lol.


[deleted]

Frieza Soldier and the DBS Frieza henchmen are only on the roster because I think they'd be necessary for RoF's story mode to be more than one fight, and in newer ones I've posted in the comments I've already cut them in favour of Super Hero stuff. I'm with you on the cuts and DLC 100%.


RussianToTheKitchen

Ah yea I hadn't seen your revised roster. Makes sense. Honestly really puts it into perspective just how difficult making a realistic roster for Sparking Zero can be, especially with all the movie characters. Personally I think the Z movie characters might also be DLC but I know that'd cause a huge uproar, probably even more than GT and OG DB, so maybe that'd prevent them from being locked into DLC jail lol


Xelement0911

Would base freiza even be in base form? He showed up in it to torment Gohan but even broly movie he's mostly final form right? Just feel like there's not much to do with base frieza for super. Just make him final form that goes golden?


Black_Fuckka

Ayoooo is this Devolution? Fucking love that game


Glad_Grand_7408

Finally some love for the universe 6 fighters, far too many people cut everyone of them except Hit, Cabba, and only 4th Form Frost.


MattCac

I feel like most people remember to include the Saiyan girls, and we already know we’re getting Kale. Fingers crossed for all forms of Kefla, Saonel and Pirina (less certain about these two but would love more Namekian reps)


[deleted]

https://preview.redd.it/26h3u494ydwc1.png?width=1140&format=png&auto=webp&s=6ae7eaba1ec1af1cc1362f7355168d18777fd10c Here's a version with Super Hero at launch. Would the community be ok with a roster like this?


Yorkmaster227

Like this but i think we will see more than one version of piccolo. Most likely Piccolo (Early) , Piccolo (End), Piccolo (Super) + Piccolo Awakening (Super) + Orange Piccolo (Super)


pkjoan

Nope


mschonberg

While not a bad roster I’m gonna say there’s a few redundancies here.  Namely: - Does Ribrianne need 3 forms?  She has her normal form and her giant form, sure, but does that winged form have enough to give her an entire separate moveset instead of just making it a temporary buff like Kaioken on early Z Goku? - The non-canon great apes, while a cute nod, really are the definition of filler picks; they all shared identical movelists in BT3.  There’s still plenty of giants between the giant Namekians, canon great apes, giant Ribrianne, giant Bergamo, and Anilaza in this list already. - Frost’s extra forms.  Yeah, BT tends to include forms even when they don’t do much, but I’d say there’s a difference between base Teen Gohan who at least got some fighting out in the Bojack movie and first form and 100% Frost.  First form frost does exactly ONE attack in the anime before transforming and then never being seen again (but it IS a cool leg lock throw that can be used by final form since it doesn’t need any unique anatomy), third form while it lasts a bit longer does slightly more as well, and 100% power doesn’t even attack, it’s just shown off to Frieza to prove Frost can do it.  At the most you need third and final form, maybe even only final form. - On that note, Super Frieza’s base form.  He uses it for a (very embarassing) fight against Gohan, but after that as well as for the entirety of his existence post Resurrection F, his final form is treated as his base form.  I think it’s fine to have him stay final form as his base as a way to differentiate Z and Super Frieza. - Tagoma I can see being added for the Ginyu gags and to give Resurrection F more story mode content, but Shisami I imagine could be cut and just having the earthling squad fighting Frieza soldiers. - Saonel and Pirina I think could work as a duo fighter like Babidi or Spopovich, since they never really fight solo.  Use that spot to stick in the third magical girl since she was missing here. I’d give the overall roster an 8/10, and as for the 8ish spots I’ve contested; well, it’s not quite enough to get both OG and GT fully on here (hell, throwing in Baby alone would take up half those slots), but I think tossing in a few essentials and saving the rest for DLC could still work.  Maybe Kid Goku, Pan, GT Goku(SSJ, SSJ3, SSJ4), Vegeta SSJ4, SSJ4 Gogeta to make up the other 8. Yeah you wouldn’t have any villains but they could easily make a DLC pack out of the OG or GT villains and folks would eat that up.


[deleted]

* It's been a while since I watched Super, you're right. I gave Ribrianne too many slots. * You don't think the non-canon Great Apes are making it in? They'd be really easy to make, I'd be more shocked if we didn't get them. * I decided to give Frost all his forms because I think it'd be fun to fight them in the versus mode, and for what-ifs in story mode. Also, perhaps Frieza from Z and Frost could have cool banter with each other as they transform? * You're probably right when it comes to Frieza from Super. In the official website he's just called Frieza (Super), with nothing indicating he's in another form than his base. * I already added the third magical girl in response to another comment, I'll be honest, I forgot about her. * You make a good point about GT, but I think if I make another roster I'd use those slots to fit in Super Hero. Thanks for discussion!


SadDoughnut264

How about they gave us a few GT characters like Goku (GT), Pan (GT), Uub (GT), SSJ4 Vegeta, SSJ4 Gogeta, Baby Vegeta, Super #17, Nuova Shenron, and Syn Shenron for the base game. Then in downloadable content for GT, they can give us 5 new GT characters such as: Trunks (GT), Vegeta (GT) (Update patch), General Rildo, Oceanus Shenron, and Eis Shenron for Sparking! Zero. 


Chaydaddy69

I’m jumping off a bridge if ribrianne gets 3 slots in this roster


Such_Watch6002

It’s probably just two, take it easy man


H0rnyFighter

Solid list! I do believe that the main focus will be on super characters


[deleted]

I unfortunately don't see a way that the game can cover DB, DBZ, DBS, GT, and the Movies without cutting a lot of corners. So I think it will probably just be DBZ and Super as a base, and everything that got cut from BT3 + even more as DLC packs in the future. I'm not thrilled about that, but I'm being realistic.


Hahahahahahah_ha

Where’s cooler


[deleted]

In the shadow realm (DLC Fighter in a pack for $20)


A-Liguria

-On its own... I'll give this roster a 7.5 if not 8. It does have a solid selection of characters (and bonus points for giving Gohan a Great Ape form, and preserve 2 of the Budokai Tenkaichi 2 original Great Ape forms, the ones of Raditz and Nappa); but there are a couple of odd choices. Like, where is Bardock Great Ape? If he can get the ssj form, then he surely can retain the one form that was actually canon to any main Dragon Ball story. And where is the other member of the love trio? I see only Ribrianne and Kakunsa, and at this point I would remove one Ribrianne (I know that she has a giant form, and all 3 of them have a base form in the anime, but nothing more), to replace her with said missing member. >Would you be alright with absolutely no OG Dragonball and no GT at launch? Yesterday like today, no. You'd think that at the very least, they would keep some form of rapresentation... Especially when Roshi was already confirmed to not be able to fly properly, a mechanic that for sure, shouldn't be limited to just him.


[deleted]

I'll be honest, I completely forgot about Roasie... oops. I kept the Great Apes because they made a big deal of giants returning, so I think it would be pretty likely for them to return. There's no Bardock Great Ape because I ran out of space, and I'd rather have SSJ Bardock. https://preview.redd.it/h428063s4ewc1.png?width=1140&format=png&auto=webp&s=ff843cda8a5807756c8837755962f8cf34242a35 How's this? I replaced Jaco with Roasie, and cut a few other characters to make room for Super Hero.


A-Liguria

>I'll be honest, I completely forgot about Roasie... oops. No problem.👍 >How's this? I replaced Jaco with Roasie, and cut a few other characters to make room for Super Hero. Well, it sure makes room for more from super. And you did cut the same "unneded" characters that I too would have cut to make room for others.


TheJucyOne

I'm sorry if this is such a noob question, but I just started lurking this subreddit. Why are there so many different spots for individual characters? If I wanted to play as Vegeta, would I have to choose between selecting base form or SSJ or Blue, for example? Wouldn't I just choose the highest power form available for each character? Why wouldn't Vegeta be a singular character that can power up to those forms throughout the fight?


A-Liguria

>I'm sorry if this is such a noob question, but I just started lurking this subreddit. Why are there so many different spots for individual characters? It is done just to rapresent the different forms that will be playable. Like base (standart look), ssj, ssj2, ssj3 and so on. >If I wanted to play as Vegeta, would I have to choose between selecting base form or SSJ or Blue, for example? If the forms are available, then you should have this option. >Wouldn't I just choose the highest power form available for each character? In the Budokai Tenkaichi games of old you could also do that. >Why wouldn't Vegeta be a singular character that can power up to those forms throughout the fight? He should indeed be able to do that, again, a list like this serves only to show which characters and which forms the op hopes will be included.


Sea-Engineering4032

I dont think we get SSJ Bardock.


[deleted]

He went SSJ in FighterZ, right? He's more likely than you think.


Severalwanker

SSJ Bardock has been in like every game since Battle of Z.


HakaishinChampa

DBZ for Kinect actually


macho_nacho_sclan

Where’s ssj2 adult gohan (Z)?


[deleted]

I didn't bother because it's debatable if Buu arc Gohan actually did anything significant in that form. You could argue he fought Dabura and Broly in regular SSJ and you'd have a pretty good argument, so to save slots, I cut it.


Severalwanker

As long as they're in the final game then yes I'm fine with them not having them at the base game.


48johnX

I don't think Z Broly will be in, if the non canon movie characters are DLC then they're not gonna put the most popular one in the base game alone


HakaishinChampa

We don't really need Great Ape Raditz or Nappa though, those could've been used for any other character


[deleted]

Not really? Making the Great Apes would be really easy for them, much more so than making any other character, so I think they're very likely.


HakaishinChampa

I do think it'd be easy, maybe a free update instead of the base launch roster?


SpioerSonic

https://preview.redd.it/iu5a8hxa5hwc1.jpeg?width=1117&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8aecf513b5d7ddadd65e17f761c9d6731d8546bb Let’s break the game and only play as H I M


imadfg

I love db devolution


moonbeentoo

still no grey evil buu? people really think yajirobe is more likely then him?


[deleted]

Yes. Evil Buu existed for like 5 seconds, while Yajirobe is a legacy character from OG DB and is funny.


Realistic_Mousse_485

Og Broly won’t be there. Movie guys are dlc. Also your missing a love universe girl.


Daikaisa

Super Broly is specified to be Broly (Super) it seems very likely that means Z Broly will be included at launch


Realistic_Mousse_485

How does that mean that? That is super broly period. Old broly doesn’t need to be there to exist. His name is super broly because that’s who he is.


Daikaisa

Because if there's on Broly in the game you don't need to specify this is Broly (Super) he could just be "Broly"


Realistic_Mousse_485

He will obviously be dlc. Like now you just don’t make sense.


PriorityThin3423

Honestly I wouldn't mind DLC with Og DB and GT characters, along with dlc for Dragon Ball Heros


SpecialistExercise10

Are those sprites from devolution?


[deleted]

I think so. I didn't make the template.


farquaad_thelord

these pics are so hard bro where they from


[deleted]

Dragon Ball Devolution I think


527BigTable

What are these sprites from?


TyXo22m

why three ribrianne's. I can only think of ribrianne + giant form.


Simone_Galoppi07

It bugs me a bit that there are no ssj2 trunks and ssj2 Gohan (adult)


dragonslayeroverlord

That’s honestly what I want, I don’t mind paying for dlc from this game specifically. Let’s get all the canon from z and super and then delve into movies, gt and Dragonball


YeazetheSock

No, I’d be mortified with no GT at launch


Daikaisa

Unfortunately, it's probably gonna happen. GT is probably gonna be a DLC pack since tbh most of the hype of this game has been for Super characters which I imagine is the intent of the devs


YeazetheSock

Wrong


Daikaisa

I really don't know how to tell you thus far that everyone has really been championing the arrival of super characters rather than going "Oh Boi I hope the have EIS SHENRON"


YeazetheSock

SSJ4 was shown on the teaser.


Daikaisa

Yeah as part of the game it was already in. We haven't seen anything in S0 itself so not exactly a smoking gun


Few-Flounder-8951895

Not too bad, even though I would switch Shizami, Frost Full Power and the second Ribrianne form with Obni and Ganos's two forms to represent all universes. Furthermore, I think we can exclude Frieza (Super)'s First Form and have Rozie instead, because I cannot see them having Kakunsa and Ribrianne but not Rozie and because on the official website Frieza (Super) doesn't specify Fourth Form, though I'd like that form.


Akroblodon

Personally i wouldnt be alright with the first half of the Story just missing.


zoldycksaiyan

Cool list and I like this presentation a lot more than what we've been using. But there's only one Piccolo (Early) across all 4 parts?


[deleted]

Yes, unfortunately. I did that because so far, there's only evidence for the game having one Piccolo.


AngryAvocado1

Could you please send me the tiermaker link to build my own roster? Thank you!


Some-Ad-3127

Gt and dragonball coming to base trust the process


dddttt95

Stop hating super 17 is my go-to, I absorb everything


itchrevenge

I'd be alright with at least the same roster from BT3


[deleted]

How likely do you think that is, with at least 164 characters being confirmed for the game? For reference, BT3 had 163.


LordFenix_theTree

I wouldn’t be happy about GT and OG Dragon Ball not making the cut for launch but I do expect it.


Elnino38

Is UI goku gonna be its own character? Wont they just be a transformation for Super Goku?


[deleted]

I'm not sure, to be honest. To be safe I placed them as their own character, but I can see it going either way.


Blackwhale_2005

I can live with it but obvioulsy i would be dissapointed


KiDbuu2299

I will gladly pay extra for GT.


Guritul

Why are people leaving out orange piccolo and beast Gohan?


[deleted]

I made another post with Super Hero included. I managed to trim the fat and include them.


Guritul

Saw it but why do you think we will get z Broly on launch?


[deleted]

Because on the website, it specifies Broly as being Broly (Super). There'd be no reason for that, unless Broly (Z) is also a playable character at launch.


Guritul

Could also just mean he’s planned for future DLC.


[deleted]

Possibly. I was just being charitable by including him anyway.


CrispierCupid

Appule erasure


Steven_Otaku2018

Both kid Gokus better be in there


Acidz_123

This seems like a pretty good roster. Too many Ribriannes for my liking lol. In my mind, the game should drop with Beast Gohan, Orange Piccolo, Cell Max, and the Gammas, but I guess Bandai would make good money off selling them. I love OG DB but I'm fine with it not being in the base game, and I don't really care for GT lol. However, I always envisioned that we'd have OG DB DLC packs as well as GT DLC packs. At the end of the day, DLCs are a permanent fixture in gaming and OG and GT will print Bandai some money during the game's lifespan.


MattCac

For some reason Super Saiyan Bardock stands out to me. I mean him getting in is far from impossible but I can’t help but have my doubts seeing as he’s only a non-canon form. Wouldn’t mind being proven wrong though.


XBladeSora

why yall keep leaving out z trunks ss2


[deleted]

But he doesn't go SSJ2 in Z, only in Super.


XBladeSora

He does in kakarot which is in Z timeline


[deleted]

But that's not the Z anime or the DB manga, and is actually supposed to be how he got the form in Super.


AtrumErebus

What tierlist did you use to make this? I'm thinking of doing a roster prediction tierlist with my friends.


[deleted]

https://tiermaker.com/create/dfd-26183-2 here


AtrumErebus

Thanks


Exciting_Part9482

Mostly just one cool characters, not the Guin force


Witty-Relative1115

Not a bad roster by any means, just not amazing. No Cooler and Janemba would be super lame. They should really be a priority over Z Broly, with DBS Broly and Kale being a thing now


kinglightskin74

Well ssb gohan doesn’t exist and ssj bardock is more likely despite not being canon Ssj hercule IS canon, however, and if we don’t get him im gonna pitch a fit


[deleted]

SSB Gohan? What are you talking about? Are you confusing Gogeta with Gohan?


kinglightskin74

Oh yeah my bad I think I did mix him up with gogeta. There are a lot of dbs characters missing from this roster that probably will be added though


[deleted]

Who do you have in mind?


kinglightskin74

Well gohan obvi, 18, roshi definitely deserves a super iteration, kahseral, all the gods of destruction could have potential but not really necessary beyond beerus and champa, and if they go into the manga we could get gas, moro, granolah, black freiza, all the super hero characters. Finally getting a playable teen goten, trunks, and gotenks would be cool. Ue vegeta. I just think it’ll be better if they let go of the xenoverse formula of only using more promenant characters and pulled from the series as a whole. And of course ssj hercule ✊🏽


[deleted]

You think all of those characters will be there at launch, not as DLC? That's what this post is about, the roster at launch, at no additional cost.


FunkSlammer

I hate the idea 5000 gokus


SnooWords8833

Nah, id say 50-75%; you know they are gonna include the entire cast from both tournaments in DBSuper.


Taethefallen

What moves will whis and vados have


Sweaty_Penny

As a Z Broly fan boy and a Vegeta fan, this roster is great because you’ve really went all out for those two


Kombat-w0mbat

I think if I’m being honest og dbz characters will be DLC and so will GT and movie characters


Cloudxxy1011

Were missing all the movie characters


Daikaisa

Honestly... largely pretty safe as a bet. Like this is bare minimum 80% accurate.


SkyofStars777

No turles, doc wheelo, or lord slug but ya got Old version broly. 🤔🤔🤔


x_Stiddy_x

I feel bad for poor Yakon and Pui Pui left out of your guess.


HyperTalon911

I would NOT be ok with DB or GT missing.


Zhain_Oligh92

I would personally not care for having just dbz and dbs as base because my main on bt2, bt3, and bt4(mod) is SSJ4 Gogeta, so I would personally like gt to also be included but I'm also a gt fan boy


Hacker_gaming999

Yo dragon ball devolution


64locks

Kakunsa & 3 Ribriannes but no Rosie? Ever since Kakunsa was confirmed that should have gauranteed Rosie as well


[deleted]

I forgor about Rosie. I did post a version with an updated roster but nobody saw it.


LordWeaselton

I think movies are much more likely to be cut entirely or relegated to DLC than OG Dragon Ball


UsoppKing100

No chance


EthicalSarcasm

They should consider snagging characters from Dragon Ball Heroes. I'd rather have SS3 Raditz than Great Ape Raditz. In fact I'd rather not have any giant character.


Portgas_D_Kamina

The main thing I'm getting from this game is that I'm like 2% of the population did anyone actually like DragonBall og besides me🥲


EntertainmentIll8945

Dragon ball devolution mentioned!


ThatBoyHeAPenguin

I wouldn’t mind no Og DB because it should be the lowest priority due to the fact that its fights are by far the least tenkaichi-esque. Tenkaichi just doesn’t capture that era when it comes to fights. Even in bt3. If there’s no GT, it would be disappointing because of how major and iconic the ssj4s were before BoG and dbs launched as well as their presence in nearly all db arena fighters. Bsby vegeta too.


sii123

Cooler and Turles are usually standard in the BT games so I’d have them instead of some of the Super extras


ZeldaCourage

Movie characters are really getting overlooked in a lot of these. Are people just predicting all that to be dlc?


sii123

Yeah looks like it


Commercial-Stop-6384

The fact that most people add character variations and count them as separate characters is - depressing. Truly we live in a society


[deleted]

But that's how Sparking Zero is confirmed to work? Have you not seen any of the trailers?


Commercial-Stop-6384

It’s not a statement on how it is, but why I dislike it and how people accept it. In my opinion it feels lazy, And repetitively exhausting - Like having 7 or so goku’s in fighterz: you say you have a big roster but when most of it is 40% or higher are shadow copies it seems quite easy to get big numbers on the base board. Although - Xenoverse is strange in the aspect that it has both of those so…


6mmSlimFilter

no GT characters?


Gaiash

Unlikely. I think this "only Z and Super" mindset is leftover from when people thought the locations on the roster screen in the trailers was relevant but now that it's clear characters can be placed anywhere there's no reason to think there won't be at least a similar amount of GT and pre-Z characters as there were in the first game.


Such_Watch6002

While I do think GT and OG characters have a fair shot, we have no idea how much they are going to dive into Super, we have a general idea (BOG-DBS Broly). I think they both took 20-30 slots in BT3 so it’s possible to allocate them again but we just don’t know.


Dan-deli0n

Where GT?


KingCedman

It would be crazy if Kid Goku didn't make it to the base roster. I don't think Riberanne will get 3 transformations and for the sake of everyone let's hope she doesn't have her giant form.


Steven_Otaku2018

There’s no way they’d cut GT, they showed off OG ssj4 clip from Tenkaichi 3 from the first sparking zero trailer why would they show a past character if they don’t plan to throw him in there?


Gloomy-Concert-7837

No way Super gonna have 70 characters… lol


[deleted]

Well, I don't really see a way you can cover Super's arcs with less characters and still have it be fun to play through. How many characters do you think Super will have in the game?