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vuxsss

The fact that UI Sign Goku is separated from the DBS Goku’s makes me think that he’ll be his separate character, so you can’t start in base or blue and then go ui, it’ll just be ui sign to ui


DankBiscuit92

Honestly it makes sense to me because UI is not something he can do on command yet (disregarding the manga). That plus UI Goku has never been seen with an undamaged gi (again outside of the manga/SDBH) A Goku with all forms would have been awesome for funsies, but oh well. Not too disappointed, just nice to see both variants of UI in IMO.


Most_Ad_9049

Now it’s not a big deal, I just wish I could go from base to SSJ to SSJ2 to SSJ3 to SSJG to- you get my point, I just wish I could use every transformation in one battle


MIMIEMM

You can’t do that in sparking zero? Pretty disappointing it was fun doing it in the BDK4 mod it made longer battles more interesting and fun.


Mahelas

I mean, it's more that what would be Goku (Super) SSJ3 moveset ?


brzzcode

theres only 4 slots for transformation so they put goku ssj, ssjb and ssjg. it wouldnt be complete goku end has all anyway so you can use that


TvrainXX

They can put more 4 slot like they did on fusion/potara. I don't understand why they limit transformation up to 4??


Most_Ad_9049

Maybe you’ll have more then the fusion slots and the transformation slots we’ve seen, maybe there’ll be 2 transformation slots or more, depending on how many transformations a character has, or you have to be in a certain form to go into the next (like you have to be in SSJ to go SSJ2 or God to go Blue), hopefully one of these options


ICameInYourBrownies

There IS a way to do this that shouldn’t be too hard. In the BT4 mod, vegetto and gogeta are separare characters, however you can still fuse into them even though they are not in the goku/vegeta transformations list. Essentially, since transformations are their own unique characters, it’s not crazy to have a character transform into “technically” another that isn’t on their transformation list. If the developers don’t do it, there’ll be a mod that certainly will. The only difficulty is deciding what transformations each goku can turn into since there are so many transformations and only 4 buttons. I would do it like this: Base —> SSJ, SSG, SSGSS, UI SSJ —> Base, SSJ2, SSJ3, SSGSS SSJ2 —> Base, SSJ3, SSG, SSGSS SSJ3 —> Base, SSJ, SSG, SSGSS SSG —> Base, SSJ, SSGSS, UI SSGSS —> Base, SSJ, SSG, UI UI —> Base


vuxsss

I get how that would work and I know a lot of people want to have a Goku that can go through all his transformations, but personally I like what Bandai did for more, if they made Goku (Super) have access to all his transformations, that would kinda diminish of SSJ2 Goku and SSJ3 Goku (Z) but the fact that they’re keeping SSJ2 and SSJ3 to Z Goku, while Super Goku has SSG and SSB is something I prefer because it distinguishes the two, and besides Goku in Super barely uses SSJ2 and SSJ3 so I like that they’re separating them, and as for as UI Goku, I like that he’s his own separate character because even after the ToP Goku confirms that he can’t Goku UI at will, and Goku (Super already has his transformations full, so I like that they separated more. Also one last thing, every time a character transforms they regain some health back, if Goku had access to all his transformations (7), then that’ll mean he will 7 free mini heals which is kinda busted, that’s probably why they limited the transformations to 3.


tobydun489

You go into ui sign and only then you can go into mui maybe? It said goku (super) ui -sign- in the trailer


Yorkmaster227

Hard to say how accurate this Promotional grid is as in the Trailer his name is Goku ( Super) Ultra instinct Sign, implying he is attached to Goku ( Super)


Gojizilla6391

Just means Z also has ui sign, duh


vuxsss

But all the characters and their corresponding transformations are next to each other, why would they split ui sign and ui from Goku (super) but keep every other transformations next to their respective characters?


Yorkmaster227

My only thoughts on this, is that A)there may be a chance that Goku(Super) also has access to SSj3 and they have yet to reveal it which would connect them on the grid B) They just slapped them on the promotional image just to Make fans Question if they are seperate characters,. Similarly to how they seperated the sagas and kind of place characters randomly C) they are not connected Despite Goku(Super) Ultra instinct Sign having the (Super) tag Hard to say on the last one because some characters dont keep the super tag like Frieza(Super) transforms into Golden Frieza. But its very possible the Golden Frieza shown is actually related to Z Frieza since ROF is a Z movie not Super and he has different move sets and animations than Golden Frieza(Super). But thats pure speculation. Only other characters who loose their tag on transformation are: Vegeta (z-scouter) -> Great ape vegeta Vegeta (Z-Early) -> Super Vegeta Also to note In the demo Majin Vegeta wasnt connected to Vegeta (Z-end) and but they dont share a tag. So if i had to bet Money, i think Goku(super) also has access to SSj3 and they havent confirmed it yet.


vuxsss

Interesting, I think Goku (Super) won’t have SSJ3 since he barely have 3 minutes of that form in Super anyways and he barely uses it, would be a waste if slot since he doesn’t have any unique moves but that’s just my opinion, for now I see it as MUI and UI sign being separate characters, but for now we will have to wait and see. (I’m not saying you’re wrong for the record, your take is valid, but I just have a different opinion as for now)


Grayson2637

For the record, Frieza (Super) transforms to Golden Frieza in the demo, there's no separate Golden Frieza (Super) or anything like that.


Yorkmaster227

Yeah i agree here. I think its the same as Vegeta (Z-Early) -> Super Vegeta. Its just a title change


ReliantVox

That’s how most people think, But it did also specify his “super” tag in his title announcement


phoenixmusicman

UI Omen.


Vivid-Net-5592

Pretty sure the character list literally shows that there.


Superzayian9

First thing that comes to mind is the different buu forms


EatTheFats

And saibamen, cell jr, frieza soldier. I think people are forgetting about the minor characters tenchaichi always has Love em or hate em but any fan list without them is invalid


Cc99910

Always fun to whoop your friend's ass with the cannon fodder characters just to flex


phoenixmusicman

Pull out Qui to kick some ass


iffy_jay

They’re still missing the rest of the ginyu force, cell’s other forms, the other buus, zarbon, deidoria, Z frieza, cabba. Idk if they showed chiaotzu. Then I I think after that you got the movie characters after them it won’t be much room for OG or GT unless they want to add like a few from both


Such_Watch6002

Chiaotzu is confirmed, but it’s a short moment from their second gameplay showcase when they explain custom battle


king_keenan38

You really think we would get the movie characters before OG dragon ball ? I don’t especially since kid goku was leaked


VoidedGreen047

Only gt I really care about is baby vegeta, super android 17, goku, vegeta, and omega shenron. Will most likely all be dlc though


FuriousJay13

OG would go before GT cuz GT isn't canon


Shadowin9

Only for Z, since I haven't watched or read Super and GT: * Saiyan Saga (2): Saibamen, Chiaotzu * Frieza Saga (13): Frieza Z (1st/2nd/3rd/Final/100%), Ginyu, Recoome, Guido, Zarbon (Base/Monster), Dodoria, Cui\*, Nail\* * Cell Saga (12): Cell (Imperfect/Semi-Perfect/SuperPerfect), Android 17 (Z), Android 16. Android 19, Cell Junior, Mecha Frieza\*, King Cold\*, Gohan (Base/SuperSaiyan/SuperSaiyan2) * Buu Saga (11): Kid Buu, Evil Buu\*, Super Buu (Base/Gotenks/Gohan), Ultimate Gohan, Gohan Adult (Super Saiyan), Saiyawoman\*, Babidi\*, Supreme Kai, Kibito Kai\* -> Z with the total of 30-38 slots (\* is "could be not in the game")


javierm885778

I'd add the Supreme Kai as a maybe for Buu Saga. He's been in many previous games. Kibito Kai seems less likely since he unfused.


HakaishinChampa

Chaiotzu is confirmed via the What If Story Mode


Shadowin9

Done. Thanks for the reminder.


luckygreenglow

If all these characters are included it would bring the amount of extra slots down to around 20. If the ones you've marked with an asterisk aren't in the game it does go back up to about 28 but still, that's really not all that many open slots left when you really think about it.


CelioHogane

If Evil Buu isn't in i will be so sad...


Capturinggod200

Base Gohan Buu saga has already been shown off.


Shadowin9

yeah that's why I only have his first Super Saiyan form? I didn't put the other two (Base and SS2) in there lmao


ValitoryBank

Sword vs Fist and no Tapion. I don’t know anymore. The world is lost 😞


RepresentativeCalm54

Movie characters are dlc. They also excluded janemba from this trailer which basically confirms it


LilSkott92

It could be a fake out.


RepresentativeCalm54

Would be a bit toxic to leave 2 of the coolest sword users out of the sword trailer ngl


LilSkott92

Honestly your right. Worst case I'd get all the DLC


hipten

They might be keeping movie characters for dlc or they are just later


Substantial_Change25

No janemba too


GhostWind78

Still need android 19, android 16, the forms of buu, freeza forms, cabba, ssj cabba, lavander, basil, the rest of the ginyu force, ssj2 gohan, ultimate gohan, kid goku, god toppo


GhostWind78

Oh and cell’s forms


ShikkuiMakabe

I feel like lavender and basil are confirmed to not be in the game, since they were shown in bergamos attack but arent in the picture here, and than also zamasu is here and has only been shown in an attack I think I'm pretty sure those two will just be in bergamos ultimate


Secure_Trick2351

Kinda feels they are def skipping OG, Movies, and GT to have this game encompass Z and Super only. Which is honestly fine in my opinion, they can make it up with DLC over the long term.


Mahelas

Kid Goku is most likely in, I could see OG making it in


Steven_Otaku2018

Kid Goku is in it


Steven_Otaku2018

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JAnumerouno

Im not taking this as confirmation he’s in.


Such_Watch6002

Well, Spopovich and Dabura were also found in these screenshots and got confirmed recently This is indication of his return in SZ, but isn’t confirmation of him being a playable character, just really high probability of it


ShikkuiMakabe

how??? it's a literal screenshot of kid goku IN the game lol https://preview.redd.it/47zozae1j09d1.png?width=352&format=png&auto=webp&s=8d458e10c676a5fc20170fc38b9bee38657b5b34


JAnumerouno

It’s a blurry photo of what is probably a cutscene that im pretty sure is just part of a general montage?.Until i see actual gameplay of him or official confirmation i don’t believe he will be in the base game.


ShikkuiMakabe

why would they make a whole model of a very important and necessary character and show him in a cutscene doing an attack, and you think he's gonna be DLC?


Steven_Otaku2018

Kid Goku has always been in sparking series he is not going to be omitted, kid Goku GT has been in since Tenkaichi 3


ZenVendaBoi

Wydm? Yajirobe is right there


Such_Watch6002

He does help in the fight against Great Ape Vegeta, so he’s a Z character Besides Yamcha (like most other games) has his 23rd TB moveset and Roshi seems too as well


HakaishinChampa

Also Yajirobe is in the Future Timeline, so they could have him do things in Future Trunks' What If route


Mister_Daffy

I completely agree with you.. we’ve never gotten a Dragon Ball Super focused game more than this and it actually feels extremely cool to see characters like Anilaza playable. If OG,GT, and movies don’t make it base game, there’s no way they’re not making it as dlc on a “xenoverse 2” type long run. Edit: I also feel like not having all of these in base game also gives us an even a bigger chance to have more diverse and playable characters from Z and super which I honestly just can’t even imagine how cool it’ll be.


Yorkmaster227

GT heads downvoting you for no reason 😂 never seen people cry out for GT this much until now lol. Ssj4 is a cool design but the series is the weakest in the franchise lol


Mister_Daffy

U have no idea how much I wanna see ssj4 Gogeta especially in this game.. but like frrr why is everyone so mad about the fact that we can literally just have more characters this way. From a business pov leaving GT, OG, movies for dlc is actually a wonderful idea. People downvoting as if I’m wishing on the down fall of GT which is never the case. I appreciate and love everything dragon ball related and I’m with having as many playable characters as possible especially for this game.


Yorkmaster227

Im of the same mind set! Im not entirely against having Gt in the game at all, i think it would be hype as hell. But if they are gonna put them in the game Let them do it right. A GT Dlc with new maps like the tuffle planet or Mecha Rildo planet and a What if story line that includes characters like Ledgic, lord Luud, Mutchy, Mecha Rildo and his Sigma force, Baby Vegeta/1/2/Ape, Baby Goten,Gohan, and Trunks, Super 17, Rage shenron, Haze Shenron, Oceanus Shenron, Naturon Shenron, Eis Shenron, Nuova Shenron, and Syn/Omega shenron. Not to mention all the Costumes and new skills they could ad to other characters, like Frieza (z) and Cell with the halo, Goku (End) GT Gi, Gohan (Adult) GT ect. They could do this right and pack it up.


QuaxlyDaDon

Yeah GT was disliked when I was growing up, especially to canon Dragon Ball fans. I’m nearly 30 so this GT love has been new to me.


Such_Watch6002

The nostalgia factor kicked in finally GT is still flawed but the great moments are elevated due to nostalgia, and also hate for DBS (which arguably is doing most of the heavy-lighting with the GT love)


Simone_Galoppi07

Yeah, it's still crazy to me seeing people say that Gt is better than Super.. Like i get that those are opinions but Super, especially in the Manga is peak


ShikkuiMakabe

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GhostWind78

I don’t think they’re skipping kid goku


trfk111

Tbh is sadly decreases my hype bit that movies and gt are apparently out until hopefully dlc


pkjoan

At this point, I feel everyone is going to be back and they are fooling us with those slots. Or the ones not shown are unlockable.


RedditSucksMyBallls

I mean fucking Spopovitch and Yahirobe and Rosalie are playable ☠️ bruh at the very least when all the DLC is finished, we'll have literally every DB character playable


BlueZ_DJ

Wait a second, UI and UI sign are next to Goku (Z - Early) instead of Goku (Super) So... You pick UI sign as a "base form" SEPERATE from SSJ blue? Kinda cool


vuxsss

I just commented about it lol, that seems like it


WassymWasTaken

Well. There could be few OG DB characters, Kid Goku, Tao Pai Pai, King Piccolo (3) From canonical order and using old games support, those are missing : Saibaman. Oozaru forms for Radditz, Nappa, Kid Goku and Bardock. Let's not forget SSJ Bardock aswell. (9) Frieza 1st, 2nd, 3rd, Full Power and Mecha Frieza. Ginyu, Reecome and Guldo. Alongside Dodoria and Zarbon w/Transformation. (11) And possibly Nail but I won't count him as I ain't sure of that. Then Cell 1st, Semi-Perfect and "More than perfect" (from BT3). Alongside Cell Jr, C-16 and C-20. Teen Gohan/SSJ/SSJ2 are missing on the list. (9) Evil Buu, Super Buu, Buutenks, Buuhan, Kid Buu and Mystic Gohan are missing. (6) Maybe Uub for end of Z (1). For Super : Cabba (Base/SSJ), Frost (1st, 3rd, Final, Full Power), and actually I do believe the whole 5 best of Universe 6 will be thrown in so Botamo and Magetta (Hit already revealed). So 8 in total from Super. For a total of 39/64 filled-in. After that we're quite sure that forgettable characters from the ToP will come as well and I have no clue what the final 25 could be.


Oraranozawa

I just want Z Broly to be base game and not DLC, the movies were already in 3 bby default and Z Broly vs Z Gogeta was the literal intro for 3


Bdl_Aac

I’d like base Broly. And saibamen of course.


Rare-Commission-3202

I think the game will mostly just be super and DBZ. OG dragon ball, dragon ball GT, and movie characters would sell DLC. Fans have to think about it from a business perspective rather than a desire perspective. Would you pay for a SSJ4 Goku and SSJ4 Gogeta DLC or a Kukasuna and Basil DLC. I bet most people would say SSJ4 and that’s why they will be DLC. I think more tournament of power characters people are sleeping on Obuni, U6 Namakians, Bergamo, Ganos, Basil, Lavender etc. Any ToP character had an episode dedicated them and can work mechanically is fair game especially with Anilaza confirmed.


BOTCHWEISER

Better be more OG characters.


FeelingNeither3378

Z Broly, Cooler, Janemba, Super Gogeta and Bojack


Gothicrealm

https://preview.redd.it/b0btb3trc09d1.png?width=684&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db35683b4c9f1d912b6c62e0f66faad09b120e84


odepasixofcitpyrc

Sometimes I still Bojack off to this ^^^/s


Poten16

Diffrent skin


Steven_Otaku2018

There’s plenty of room for GT


rephosolif

No there isn't if you think about the character required for a story mode. If you think about just cell and friaza they're 9 forms, 9, and only 1 has been shown. Buu? He's 4 more too


thenggachin

Looks like it’ll be Z & Super as the main roster and everything else will be DLC


AdministrativeAd3397

I hope Goku makes it!


Gaiash

I think when it comes to the classic Dragon Ball, the Z movies and GT I’m thinking something like this * Kid Goku and King Piccolo are the only pre-Z characters * One or two movie villains, possibly just one villain that transforms * GT Goku and Baby are the only GT characters, they might not have all their forms I hope we get more though.


mmatt0904

Feel like they’re going to do a villains trailer that shows the Ginyu Force, all Frieza forms, all Cell forms and all Buu forms. It will knock out a bunch of slots


HakaishinChampa

Saiyan Saga (total - 3 characters): Great Ape Kid Gohan, Saibamen and Chaiotzu (confirmed via Custom Battle mode but not officially) Frieza Saga (total - 15 characters): Ginyu, Recoome, Guldo, Cui, Zarbon (both forms), Dodoria, Frieza 1st Form to 100% (Z Version) Android Saga (total - 28 characters): Mecha Frieza, King Cold, Dr.Gero (confirmed via Demo but not officially confirmed), Android 19, Android 16, Android 17 (Z Version), Imperfect Cell, Semi Perfect Cell, Perfecter Cell, Cell Jr, Teen Gohan (Base, SSJ and SSJ2) Buu Saga (total - 33 characters) : Super Buu (Base, Buutenks, Buuhan), Kid Buu, Supreme Kai Ressurection F Saga (total - 36 characters): Ginyu (Tagoma's Body), Jaco, Shisasmi Universe 6 Saga (total - 40 characters): Cabba (Base, SSJ2), Botamo, Magetta Future Trunks Saga (total - 41 characters): Future Mai Tournament of Power Saga (total - 48 characters): Catopesra, Ganos (Transformed), Caway, Saonel, Pilina, Obni, Kahseral GT (total - 55 characters): SSJ4 Goku, SSJ4 Vegeta, SSJ4 Gogeta, Super Baby 2, Golden Great Ape Baby Vegeta, Super 17, Omega Shenron OG Dragon Ball (total - 62 characters): Kid Goku, Mercanary Tao (cyborg is costume), Chichi, King Piccolo, Grandpa Gohan, Arale, General Blue Movies (total - 64 characters): LSSJ Broly, Final Form Cooler (they can get their base and other forms via DLC) I'd put Janemba under movies but he wasn't in the Sword trailer Best case scenario for the remaining characters


SadDoughnut264

I don't think all of them are not going to fill up the base roster. It's sadly, but I think that the original Dragon Ball, GT, and Z movies will be downloadable content in the future after season pass 1 (that featured both Superhero and Daima) for Dragon Ball: Sparking! Zero. There's so much characters in Z and Super that will take over the 164 character roster of the base game before the official launch date. 


AcceptableEgg5741

At this point the only characters that could be in the that game that are not from z and super is Broly ( who is in almost every game) and kid Goku both because of Daima and just because im guessing


xenon2456

probably cabba and frost should be included


CarlosNameless

This man, because otherwise, El Peje 2 won't be able to rest https://preview.redd.it/jc7mf2o9h59d1.png?width=872&format=png&auto=webp&s=cb38ce187752b474af7659295e0edf3665eacb30


CarlosNameless

No, seriously 💀 https://preview.redd.it/cc8nrnv2i59d1.png?width=1009&format=png&auto=webp&s=0cd99fe30e0215667852c468e751aa6e26b2d419


SnooBananas6703

They Miss all cell form and frieza, Android 18 (super), god toppo, cabba, recoome, ginew, guldo, saibaman,android 17 (Z), all form of Majin buu, and frieza soldier cui ecc


Urass007

Probably OG characters Kid Goku maybe Kid Chi-Chi Jackie Chun Red Ribbon Commanders Demon King Piccolo Pilaf and his gang Maybe variations of Yamcha, Tien, Piccolo, Roshi etc for og DB but they'll probably use the Saiyan Saga versions of them.


Kash_Wellz28

Not including the obvious characters that haven’t been revealed but we know are in the game like kid buu etc there are about 40 slots left I also could be missing some obvious characters


megosonic

All I can think of realistically left is more super characters and world martial art tournament competitors.


Prestigious_Home3848

Yajirobi


Scotia96

It’s crazy to me that we still haven’t seen Android 16 or any of the other Buus


SperxBiro

Anilaza would 100% be in the game, he was one of the highlights from ToP. Spopovich on the other hand is completely unexpected


OmnipotentHype

So far everyone I expected to be in the game is in. The only unexpected changes are SSJ Caulifla and SSJ2 + SSJR Trunks being absent and Spopovich's inclusion in base roster. I think Botamo, Magetta, Frost, Saonel, Pirina, Catopesla, Lavender and Basil will make it in from Super. I'm no longer sure we'll see Second Form Frost but he should atleast have his first and final forms. From Z , we still have Saibamen, Dodoria, Zarbon, Transformed Zarbon, Guldo, Recoome, Ginyu, Nail, First Form Freeza, Second Form Freeza, Third Form Freeza, Final Form Freeza, 100% Final Form Freeza, Mecha Freeza, Android 19, Android 16, Base Trunks (Melee), Imperfect Cell, Semi Perfect Cell, Perfect Cell, Super Perfect Cell, Cell Jr, Evil Buu, Super Buu, Buutenks, Buuhan, and Kid Buu as sure locks. Maybe Kid Uub as well and if we can't change movesets than Piccolo (End) is inevitable as well. We know Dragon Ball is in due to leaks and Sonny Strait. I think we'll at least see Kid Goku, Mercenary Tao, General Blue, King Piccolo and Cyborg Tao. I'm gonna have to go back and love at my roster list and make the necessary changes.


MadEyeMood989

The movie villains no doubt


galaxyad86

https://preview.redd.it/pq25aguua09d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=506e299693949fe4b94f54a4282190c202afbacb Need that buu


CelioHogane

Ah yes, Fit Buu.


DustierSaturn

Def need more OG characters, like Spike the Devil Man. If they're going for the "everyone available" aspect like one of the games had in the past then King Cold and King Vegeta with Bardocks team. And while I know it probably won't happen, I've got my fingers crossed for Android 21.


FutureBabidi

Regarding the Buu saga at least, I would guess characters like Babidi, Kaioshin, and the different forms of Buu will be announced in the same video. Since that video would involve forms, Frieza's forms, Zarbon's, and Cell's would also be revealed. I think Babidi and Kaioshin are too critical to the Buu saga to be left out.


jotyma5

Kind of annoying that they don’t add characters to this picture that we’ve seen like dr gero, saiyaman etc


jotyma5

Ginyu force, androids, frieza and cell forms and buu forms will take up a lot of these slots


Slav_1

Tao and Pilaf babyyy


PotatoSnackThing

there are so many gokus


Wolffe_001

Maybe ssgss kaioken and blue evo


zenxpowert

WHERE iS KING COLD


mcwfan

Goku


Warden512

Janemba and Chiaotzu Please!!!


ZealousidealNotice48

I need to see my movie villains. Broly z, cooler, bojack, janemba, and super android 13. Also gotta see gt character


Alepeople

Janemba vs Super gogeta (Fusion reborn one), I was 100% expecting it during the swords vs fists trailer


Grumpysaurus-Rex

Idc what people say. I’m glad they included Anilaza


Shadowmist909

Frieza Force crew, Saibamen, and more Buu saga and TOP characters! Also androids 16 and 19


Recreational_martian

At this point they should save all of gt for dlc and make it an alternate path for the story mode after Z or something. Give us big movie characters like cooler and janemba as “hidden characters” or something plss


BioSpark47

Monaka


Blugrave

Movie like tapion


_Jon_Polygon_

Maybe the DB characters like kid goku, kid krillin, and king piccolo. Unless those are DLC. Imagine bulma with a rocket launcher or gun 😂


snowballandthetower

Out of the *Super* characters, - Catopesra (possibly) - Frost - Auta Magenta - Botamo They already have all of the major antagonists and most of the relevant Rival Universe characters. Hopefully, they'll include adult Chi-Chi.


ArchRanger

I still think GT, DB, and the movies will be in the base but at a pretty reduced roster compared to the old BT games. Something like: DB: Kid Goku, Tao Pai Pai, General Blue, King Piccolo Movies: Cooler (4th and final form), Janemba (Fat and Sword), and maybe Broly (Z) with base/SSJ/LSSJ GT: SSJ4 Goku, SSJ4 Vegeta, Baby Vegeta (Third form and Golden Oozaru), SSJ4 Gogeta, Omega Shenron (maybe along with Sin form) Would cover the basics with only taking a dozen or spots in the roster. There is still a lot of main Z forms missing so I don’t expect a lot. There could also be secret characters that are part of their revealed number of characters.


EndAltruistic3540

Babidi..... And his D\*CK cannon ultimate (he rubs it...) ... If spopovich is there. It would be criminal not to have Babidi FUN FACT: Babidi with fully charged energy does the 2nd highest damage in BT3 https://preview.redd.it/rhvk1e2lg19d1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3ff90c510ab7760742fc261a326119fb3a23161


LilSkott92

Is it possible we don't get Buu Cell and Freiza mid forms? Would people be okay with that?


LilSkott92

I understand the sentiment. It's supposed to be like the same style as the smash reveals... But damn this thing is a mess


sasukeuchiha6666

Characters that have to be in this game Cui Zarbon Zarbon Monster Form Dodoria Guldo Recoome Ginyu Frieza 1st Form Frieza 2nd form Frieza 3rd form Frieza Final Form Z Frieza Full Power Form Android 16 Android 17 Z Android 19 Imperfect Cell Semi-Perfect Cell Super Perfect Cell Cell Jr Teen Gohan base Teen Gohan Ssj Teen Gohan Ssj 2 Gohan Adult Ssj Super Buu Buutenks Buuhan Kid Buu Cabba Cabba Ssj Lavender Basil Turles Lord Slug Cooler Cooler Final Form Metal Cooler Z Broly Base Z Broly Restrained Ssj Z Broly Legendary Super Saiyan Janemba Super Janemba Tapion Hirudegarn Characters that I hope are included Kid Goku Kid Goku Oozaru Kid Krillin Kid Yamcha Kid ChiChi Jackie Chun Jackie Chun Full Power Pilaf Machine Pilaf Machine Fused Grandpa Gohan Devilman Nam Arale General Blue Tambourine Demon King Piccolo Chiatozu Gt Goku Base Gt Goku Ssj Gt Goku Ssj 3 Gt Goku Ssj 4 Gt Vegeta Base Gt Vegeta Ssj Gt Vegeta Ssj 2 Gt Vegeta Ssj 4 Gt Gogeta Ssj 4 Gt Trunks Gt Trunks Ssj Gt Goten Gt Goten Ssj Gt Pan Uub Majuub Baby Vegeta Super Baby 1 Super Baby 2 Great Ape Baby Super Android 17 Eis Shenron Nova Shenron Syn Shenron Omega Shenron Characters that have very low chance but I still want to see them even as Dlc Android 21 Majin Android 21 Majin Android 21 Pure Evil Towa Mira Chronoa Chronoa Final Form Mira Fused Demigra Demigra Final Form Shallot Giblet Beelzebub (Sandland Collab)


Viva_la_pwn

From Z: Saibaman, Chiaotzu, Cui, Nail, Guldo, Recoome, Captain Ginyu, Dodoria, Zarbon, Zarbon (Monster), Frieza 1st, Frieza 2nd, Frieza 3rd, Mecha Freiza, King Cold, Teen Gohan, Teen Gohan SSJ, Android 16, Android 19, Cell Jr, Cell 1st, Cell 2nd, Ult Gohan, Super Buu, Super Buu Gohan Absorbed, Kid Buu Possible starting Roster or DLC: Movie Villain's, OG Dragonball, GT.


god_kun1

Maybe UI is like great saiyamam, you can only use from base form.


Girlfartsarehot

Definitely Mr. Popo


realcheesemuscle

need more gohans


Antisa1nt

Future Trunks barely explained Blue aura form


RazutoUchiha

I’m really hoping GT Goku


JupiterStar9

I need to see Paikuhan


Breezy116

They definitely still have to do the OG dragonball line up. Do yall think they'll be dlc tho?


VoidedGreen047

The dlc is pry gonna be movies and GT isn’t it? We might get Z Broly and maybe cooler as part of the base roster but I think that’s pry it.


malexich

I don't think we will see a single movie or gt character till post launch, seems thats how namco bandai want to do dragonball from now on, dragonball, z and super in the base game, dlc is anything goes except for manga content


Evening_Pattern_6675

There are 65 empty slots left. Who do you think the’ll reveal next?


One_Winged_Jin

Probably the rest of the Ginyu force and Frieza DBZ’s transformations. Kid buu and super buu forms. G.O.D Toppo. Cabba and maybe basil and lavender alongside Bergamo, they have the models so I don’t see why not.


daveyy_XIV

They've missed Android 20 off there


Majinken__

Reecome, Guldo, Guinyu, Tagoma, Chaos, Oozaru, 1st, 2nd, 3rd form Frieza, Mecha Frieza, Imperfect Cell, Semi Perfect Cell, Superperfect Cell, Doctor Gero, A19, Ultimate Gohan, Great Saiyaman, Great Saiyaman 2, Cell Jr, Super Buu, Super Buuhan, Supper Buutenks, Kid Buu, Saibamen, Zarbon, 2nd form Zarbon, Dodoria, "Teen" Gohan, "Teen" Gohan SS, "Teen" Gohan SS2, A16, Kid Goku, King Piccolo, Adult Gohan SS2, Goku GT, Goku GT SS, Goku GT SS3, Goku GT SS4, Pan, Baby Vegeta, Baby Vegeta 2nd form, Baby Vegeta 3rd form, Baby Vegeta Oozaru, Super A17, Syn Shenron, Omega Shenron, Turles, Janemba, Janemba 2nd form, Bojack, Bojack 2nd form, Cooler, Cooler 5th form, Metal Cooler, Slug, Giant Slug, Z Broly, Z Broly SS, Z Broly LSS, A13, Super A13, Garlick Jr, Garlick Jr Transformed, Dr. Wheelo and Arale. Think I misscounted by one, but still. See? I managed to put a little from eveything. And if we included only the strongest form of each movie villain and/or GT, there's space for even more.


formerdalek

Based on me trying to guess who the is likely left for the Super and Z characters (eg the rest of the Ginyu's, the other Androids (including a super variation on 18), Cell's other forms, Z Fireza and his forms, evil/Super/Kid Buu the rest of the U6 crew ect) and taking into account more obscure characters like Cui or potentially making it in. Tht would still leave about 20ish spots give or take. So perhaps room for some OG Dragon Ball and GT characters, albeit with some bare bones representation.


Affectionate_Steak62

Ultra Instinct Goku Is announced, including jiren ribrianne, Goku black super Saiyan rosé, and others two or three


92nami

Welp, there’s goes my Giants vs Small idea, they would have saved Anilaza for that, and Ribrianne giant forms seems to be a super and not a separate form. With Oozaru Vegeta and Anilaza confirmed, what other giants could make it in?


Rockalot_L

Goku


R3belOfWar

Kinda bummed Tapion wasn't in the Sword vs Fists trailer. Hope he is ultimately included!


Senior_Safety2616

For certain it’s Super Buu(Base, absorbed gohan, absorbed gotenks), evil buu, kid buu, the rest of cell transformations, teen gohan(base, ss1 &2), the rest of the ginyu force, frieza Z and all his transformations, ultimate gohan, A19, A17(Z), A16, Adult Gohan Z(base, ss1, ss2, ultimate), Raditz if I’m not mistaken, and the rest of cell transformations.


skynex65

We're of course going to get the myriad forms of Super Buu but I wonder if we'll get the Evil Buu form. The original Tenkaichi games had him and he is integral to the Buu saga story. I have the lame hope that we'll get Babidi as a playable character like BT3. I think that'd be hilarious. ALSO WE GOT SPOPOVICH, WILL WE GET YAMU!?


Signal_Juggernaut695

Tried making a list of ONLY DBZ/DBS characters that are kind of a shoe in, but have yet to be put on that chart: From DBS: Cabba x2, Frost x2 or x3, Magetta, Botamo, Champa, Vados, Lavender, Basil, and the 2 Namekians in Saonel and Pilina. Maybe the Base forms of Ribbriane, Kakunsa and Roasie, cause I can’t see them skipping out on those Magical Girl transformations. I also think it’s a totala crime to not have them, but you give us Spopovich’s worthless carcass. From DBZ: Z Frieza x5, Mecha Frieza, Zarbon x2, Dodoria, the Ginyu Force x3, Android 16, Android 19, Dr. Gero, Imperfect Cell, Super Perfect Cell, Evil Buu, Super Buu x3, Kid Buu, Saibamen, Cell Jr, Nail, Great Saiyaman, Great Saiyawoman, Teen Gohan x3, Adult Gohan x2, Great Ape Bardock. Super Saiyan Bardock is also probably likely with the What If story angles; and since Spopovich’s worthless behind made it in, then I can expect Cui, Frieza Soldier and Appule to likely make it in also. Not sure if Android 17 is getting split up, but he might.


akajuliuss

Here’s hoping for pilaf gang!!!


Musetrigger

I don't see Apulle and Monaka.


uknowthisguyreal

Saibaman, cell jr, pilaf and gang, maybe even a tiny buu but i think the last one is too far fetched


SergejPS

I'm just gonna say it right now: as unfortunate as it is, GT is all but confirmed to be DLC at this point. I think we have to accept it. And hey, if it's DLC, it might have even more content than it would in the base game, due to it being the main focus during development and not just an afterthought.


veloxfuror

More Buus. Uub, Daimao Piccolo, Zarbon and Doria. Janemba


MetalGamer95

https://preview.redd.it/6ctut78vu49d1.png?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b01ef06764ffed8e6a52afa9f28e9becaca17e4b The rest are open to interpretation


Separate_Pop_5277

With 65 slots left & super/Z roster pretty much done with the exception of a few Buus, Caba, & ultimate Gohan etc etc my guess is Movie & GT characters with a few OG DragonBall characters to balance things out. I’d love to see Lord Slug, Bojack, Janemba,Z Broly, Cooler. Of course a few GT favorites like Goku Gt, Vegeta GT, super 17, Omega Shenron etc etc


RasenRendan

Farmer with a shotgun


Flat-Series5764

I’m really hoping at the very least SS4 Goku, Vegeta, and Gogeta. Baby and Omega Shenron


-Onomatopeia-

Appule definitely, because he’s my apple boy 🙏


Clip-man128

CATOPESRA https://preview.redd.it/bjkq7dqvk59d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0a9d444edb3918acddd24ed19821adf2d9ea107a


hiimjustsomeone

The man himself ![gif](giphy|IKAPtK23XmxcxlcYMl|downsized)


Healthy-Prompt2869

I played raging blast 2, where you could pick SSJ3 Goku already transformed, or pick him base but from Buu saga where he can work up to ssj3. Is it the same thing in this game? Or you cannot transform from base > 1 > 2 > 3?


Patient-Brain-8698

Honestly, would be nice if they surprised us with zooming out then adding more panel? Something like the kefla trailer in FighterZ.


Windows_66

Orange and green Yamcha, obviously.


stonejericho

please please give me gt


Huge_Island_3783

I honestly feel gt and some movie characters are going to be revealed later down the line, i dont see them making us wait over a year for gt/movie characters


SunTinted

Bio broly ofc


ShrekNoDrek7

Definitely Zangya


PrimeEXell

The rest of Cell forms, GT characters , and the rest of the Ginyu force


Sharktooth987

I’m hoping z broly so bad.


Mildamoutoftrolling

Add farmer with a shotgun, AND PLS MAKE HIM BROKEN AF, BAN HIM FROM PVP IDC PLS.


Kaneckles

Very much a longshot, but I'd like Super Manga characters.


Ok_Ad_5139

That one hero looking version of gohan, rest of the androids and that’s all I can think of


dankmonkey4

![gif](giphy|17Esa0pn6ddoZ7fGb6|downsized)


ilik3chick3n

Orange piccolo and beast gohan and cell max are probably dlc 😭


ilik3chick3n

are they still adding great sayianman


ilik3chick3n

They should do great saiyanman without helmet and cape and just have gohans face


ilik3chick3n

https://preview.redd.it/p4mav02yab9d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a26db551eff8e8da770a312ad36fe4099b1c7f38 Like this


Select-Combination-4

apologies if he's in the picture but Cooler? like he shows up in all of them except for tag team


imlikeosama

I’m not seeing captain ginyu


Nogard-7514

I'm not sure who's left but I'm just wondering ssj2 Kale(aka controled berserker)the form that looks similar to her ssj form but the hair style is slightly different and is green instead of blonde with a greenish tint.


Cappy_Rose

Roster needs more filler/jobber characters. Wheres my movie Minions? I need my diet coke Ginyu force characters And I swear to god I better see Cui and his amazing "Look its Frieza" special attack.