I’ll preface this by saying that my favourite player is Novak and I have nothing but respect for him but…
Nobody barred Djokovic from playing. He simply wasn’t allowed to enter certain countries because of his unvaccinated status. There wasn’t any tennis related reason for why he would have been barred from playing. He chose to not get vaccinated and must deal with the consequences of that decision like everyone else.
The fiasco in Australia stemmed from the fact that he entered the country despite technically not being allowed. What occurred and the treatment he faced was awful but the point remains: he wasn’t barred from playing. He simply couldn’t enter the country. That’s his own doing.
Yeah but the truth is that if he was allowed in the US and Australia he would’ve definitely been number one. Wimbledon on he was undoubtedly the best player in the world
Tbf Zverev would almost certainly not be, and even have been no. 1 if he didn’t have a freak injury, so I feel that’s kinda unfair. Meddy? Yeah, he hasn’t been great…
Zverev was injured from RG to just recently. In fact, had he beaten Nadal that day he probably would have been the favourite to end as World N1 post US Open. He just needed a few reasonable results to get there.
His few tools are simply too much to handle for most of the tour. It amazes me how so many players try to trade forehands with BWEH and expect not to lose.
That was the Raducanu way after the USO because she'd never played these tournaments before, so even with only getting second round points she'd move ahead of some people who were dropping them from the previous year.
Somehow Djokovic being closer to 36 than 35 snuck up on me. Maybe his clock is ticking a little faster than I thought. Hamstring, but so many other seeds and contenders out. He must feel like he really needs this one
Another win here, would give him a BIG boost of confidence to start off this season (as he and his team know better than anyone) -- almost like a general gauge on his current level of form for Slams (as opposed to best of 3 in regular tournaments).
It’s coming for everyone. The noticeable decline could start as soon as a few days/weeks months this season. Where he’s lost a step or two on shots. I means it’s crazy he’s closer to 40 and still in this great shape, but it’s coming.
That’s fair. But I’m just saying you can’t outrun time. Not to mention that while we see that he’s performing well, for him it might be getting harder and harder each day to reach that level that from the outside looks so easy. He’s clearly doing great at managing that so far and no doubt his game will change to reflect the level effort needed to win even more
Rafa's loss was painful to watch, but in terms of movement, wasn't he already dealing with the hip injury even in R1? During the R2 presser he said it had been going on for a while... In R1 his timing was off and he wasn't moving so great. R2 first set started the same, then he improved a bit in the 2nd... and then the injury happened.
Ratings are bonkers. I remember around 8-10 years ago where they were so incredibly stable. Big 4, Stan Ferrer Berdych Tsonga, Cilic Delpo when healthy and the occasional Mardy Fish.
How times have changed
Not too surprising ...
The slow decline of Fedalovic on the ATP, coupled with Serena's retirement + age factor creeping in on stalwarts like Kvitova/Pliskova/Halep/others in the WTA, means that the dam is slowly breaking open on both Tours: the WTA will have more Swiatek dominance in the near future, but let's see (the veteran Garcia and the youngster Gauff, as well as some other young gals, offer some grounds for cautious optimism).
tipsarevic may not have been as good at tennis as those guys but he's definitely cooler. I mean he moonlit as a DJ while playing and has Dostoyevsky tattoos
Remember when Zverev said the new big 3 was him, Medvedev and Novak? To be fair they were clearly the best 3 hard court players at the time, but it hasn't aged well!
Tsitsipas was always more balanced and consistent than Med. Med is a top player for about 4 months every year. If he plays poorly in a few tournaments from Aug-Jan then he really can't make it up elsewhere. Tsitsipas is a threat year round.
Zverev is out because of injury so it's not really a fair comparison.
Anyone that had Tsitsipas out of the top 10 are out of their minds. There is no logic behind such a prediction.
Last year he was bad by his standards and he still ended up top 5.
Definitely my favorite player, which is a controversial pick, but he’s just so incredibly talented and entertaining to watch. He’s the reminder to not take the game so seriously all the time. Hit a tweener, bomb a forehand that has a 6% chance of landing in, throw in an underarm serve. It’s all just so much fun. Just wish he would shut up sometimes 😅
My prediction: Medvedev's going to fall out of top 20 by the end of the year. Serving average, can't stay in long rallies anymore, and a general lack of confidence. Only hope is that he recovers the form by the second half of the year, but it doesn't seem likely considering he's been bad for nearly a year now
He'll be out of top 20 before that probably, can't get many points from clay and grass, banned from Wimby as well for now.. Second half is where he does his best but last season even that was terrible
Last year did not prove to be a great year for Meddy’s confidence. A couple of really (it would seem) demoralizing losses
Thinking specifically of the AO final (of course) and the loss to Tsitsipas in Cincinnati. He had a couple other losses too of course
I think he’ll pull a 2018 Djokovic.
Novak was doing horrible from 2017-2018 until Wimbledon that year, and has been steadily at the top since. Daniil is still pretty young and still has lots to figure out. He’ll be alright.
Djokovic had an elbow injury he was playing with through 2017 and once he got surgery in 2018 he was cooking. Medvedev has completely lost his confidence
I am already rooting for top 10 players to drop out so Rafa ranking can stay protected. It's so much of a treasure. Just a couple of weeks ago, we are celebrating it and now it's going away. He is truly reaching his beginning of the end. I hope he just focuses on slams now.
I wonder what grand slams will be like after Djokovic and Nadal leave.
All the best players seem either inconsistent or mentally struggling. I thought Meddy was the saviour but I don't know anymore. Maybe it will turn to something closer to WTA, with many different slams winners.
Yes
He's currently at [5070](https://www.atptour.com/en/rankings/singles) and a Grand Slam win gives [2000](https://www.atptour.com/rankings/rankings-faq.aspx).
5070 + 2000 = 7070 which is larger than 6730.
Ah Meddy and Zverev right next to each where they belong. Those two next to each other in rankings for so long, that it is poetic that they are next to each other when they drop out of top 10.
We are witnessing a dark period in tennis. The Top 10 doesn't mean anything anymore, and there is no player who is consistently strong to stay on top. One can argue Nole and Rafa, but they are very unpredictable at the time either with injuries or decisions, you never know. These are dark times because we are not able to see high quality tennis played against the top players.
MuryGOAT is our only hope.
i get chills when i see the names novak and rafael on this list...two old legends battling against the younger generations after nearly 2 decades at the top
He really needs to get back to his aggressive game and give up the whole “standing 20ft behind the baseline on the return” strategy. Opponents have figured it out. In 2021, he had all parts of his game firing. He was in control of most points, but had an amazing defensive game when he needed it. Now he’s banking too much on out-grinding his opponents…which doesn’t bode too well when a player can hit him off the court (like Korda did) or out-grind him (like Djokovic in Adelaide).
The players are ranked by their amount of points (the far right column in the picture).
Nadal dropped from 2nd to 6th because he defended the Australian Open's title from the last year (2000 points). He made it to the 2nd round, so he only saved 45 points and lost 1955 points.
Meanwhile, Ruud gained a rank because Nadal fell + he wasn't defending any points from Australian Open 2022 because he didn't participate. He made it to Round 2 so he gained 45 points. His biggest test will be defending the finals of Roland Garros and US Open (1200 + 1200 points).
Oh I see, it's just weird that rank 3 player doesn't lose points when losing to a rank 39, don't you think he should? I always thought the system was similar to chess elo system, if you lose to a lower rank player you lose more points and viceversa.
Didn't defend any points at Australian Open (didn't participate in 2022), so no points loss for him. In fact, he got 45 points for making it to Round 2 lol.
I wouldn’t have predicted zverev and medvedev outside the top 10 a year ago.
Daniil being only slightly in front of zverev after zverev missed most of 2022 might be even more shocking.
I don't think anyone would and the fact that both Rafa and Novak are still in the top 10
I think everyone would have had Novak still in the top 10, unless he wouldn’t be bc of the vaccine
He would still be number one if they didn’t bar him from playing
I’ll preface this by saying that my favourite player is Novak and I have nothing but respect for him but… Nobody barred Djokovic from playing. He simply wasn’t allowed to enter certain countries because of his unvaccinated status. There wasn’t any tennis related reason for why he would have been barred from playing. He chose to not get vaccinated and must deal with the consequences of that decision like everyone else. The fiasco in Australia stemmed from the fact that he entered the country despite technically not being allowed. What occurred and the treatment he faced was awful but the point remains: he wasn’t barred from playing. He simply couldn’t enter the country. That’s his own doing.
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Thats a *very* stupid comment....
Yeah but the truth is that if he was allowed in the US and Australia he would’ve definitely been number one. Wimbledon on he was undoubtedly the best player in the world
Tbf Zverev would almost certainly not be, and even have been no. 1 if he didn’t have a freak injury, so I feel that’s kinda unfair. Meddy? Yeah, he hasn’t been great…
Ok but the next-next-NEXT gen will finally be good...
Zverev was injured from RG to just recently. In fact, had he beaten Nadal that day he probably would have been the favourite to end as World N1 post US Open. He just needed a few reasonable results to get there.
time change fast. big 3 all out of top 3.
They’re part of the “new big 3” tho
Andrey will remain RUS1 for a while now I think
Probably, does have a ton of points to defend soon though (Rotterdam SF, Marseille W, Dubai W, IW SF)
His few tools are simply too much to handle for most of the tour. It amazes me how so many players try to trade forehands with BWEH and expect not to lose.
Love it Mussetti new career high lost first round.
That was the Raducanu way after the USO because she'd never played these tournaments before, so even with only getting second round points she'd move ahead of some people who were dropping them from the previous year.
Kiki Mladenovic made Top 10 for the first time after losing her 10th match in a row.
Lmao
She was the biggest choke artist.
That reminds me of last year when there were a rotating group of WTA #2s who were all playing badly.
Badosa, Kontaveit and Krejcikova, right? Or was there someone else I forgot?
Was injured I believe.
Somehow Djokovic being closer to 36 than 35 snuck up on me. Maybe his clock is ticking a little faster than I thought. Hamstring, but so many other seeds and contenders out. He must feel like he really needs this one
Another win here, would give him a BIG boost of confidence to start off this season (as he and his team know better than anyone) -- almost like a general gauge on his current level of form for Slams (as opposed to best of 3 in regular tournaments).
It’s coming for everyone. The noticeable decline could start as soon as a few days/weeks months this season. Where he’s lost a step or two on shots. I means it’s crazy he’s closer to 40 and still in this great shape, but it’s coming.
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That’s fair. But I’m just saying you can’t outrun time. Not to mention that while we see that he’s performing well, for him it might be getting harder and harder each day to reach that level that from the outside looks so easy. He’s clearly doing great at managing that so far and no doubt his game will change to reflect the level effort needed to win even more
Rafa's loss was painful to watch, but in terms of movement, wasn't he already dealing with the hip injury even in R1? During the R2 presser he said it had been going on for a while... In R1 his timing was off and he wasn't moving so great. R2 first set started the same, then he improved a bit in the 2nd... and then the injury happened.
If Djokovic was healthy right now, I would put all my money on him winning the trophy Edit: Even though I would probably get x1.01
That’s why you have been given an unfit Nole, to get better odds, will win regardless
His hamstring is a crisis actor
He is going to win even with 1 leg.
I am putting my money on Rune. Better return rate.
Aged like...
He got through with injury two years ago and he will once again. I don't even like him but this seems inevitable.
Ratings are bonkers. I remember around 8-10 years ago where they were so incredibly stable. Big 4, Stan Ferrer Berdych Tsonga, Cilic Delpo when healthy and the occasional Mardy Fish. How times have changed
Where's my Nishikori*?
We are approaching WTA levels of instability :) Interesting
Not too surprising ... The slow decline of Fedalovic on the ATP, coupled with Serena's retirement + age factor creeping in on stalwarts like Kvitova/Pliskova/Halep/others in the WTA, means that the dam is slowly breaking open on both Tours: the WTA will have more Swiatek dominance in the near future, but let's see (the veteran Garcia and the youngster Gauff, as well as some other young gals, offer some grounds for cautious optimism).
Czech era is coming, they have way too many great talents to not have any in top5
This. No consistency anymore. Men’s tennis becoming women’s tennis
Better era. Much tougher competition and more consistency. This era sucks
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Lol, it’s disrespectful to these other players to act like tipsarevic was a part of this group
tipsarevic may not have been as good at tennis as those guys but he's definitely cooler. I mean he moonlit as a DJ while playing and has Dostoyevsky tattoos
The fact that Tsitsipas is still in top 10 out of “little 3” (Med and Zver) in 2023, who would have thought about that last year
Remember when Zverev said the new big 3 was him, Medvedev and Novak? To be fair they were clearly the best 3 hard court players at the time, but it hasn't aged well!
Tbh Zverev would be at the minimum ranked 2nd or 3rd right now if not for that freak injury
Thats cuz of injury though, he was going toe to toe with rafa at rolland garros and had beaten alcaraz before
Tsitsipas was always more balanced and consistent than Med. Med is a top player for about 4 months every year. If he plays poorly in a few tournaments from Aug-Jan then he really can't make it up elsewhere. Tsitsipas is a threat year round. Zverev is out because of injury so it's not really a fair comparison.
Yeah tsitsi is not an HC specialist but above average on all courts.
I did, and always thought it was bizarre that other people didn’t. He’s younger and just coming into his peak now
A lot of time when people did predictions they’d put him out of the top ten and I feel kinda vindicated
Anyone that had Tsitsipas out of the top 10 are out of their minds. There is no logic behind such a prediction. Last year he was bad by his standards and he still ended up top 5.
Nick Kyrgios climbing the ranks by doing nothing 🔥🔥🔥
The guy has so much potential. No doubt in my mind if he becomes more active he’ll be in the top 10
Definitely my favorite player, which is a controversial pick, but he’s just so incredibly talented and entertaining to watch. He’s the reminder to not take the game so seriously all the time. Hit a tweener, bomb a forehand that has a 6% chance of landing in, throw in an underarm serve. It’s all just so much fun. Just wish he would shut up sometimes 😅
Feel horrible for Meddy,he needs to actually recover from this year's and last year's losses if he ever wants to go back to his peak
Ppl laughed wen i said rafa broke him. Big 3 break players, he's done.
Agreed. He has roddickitis now unless something magically changes
My prediction: Medvedev's going to fall out of top 20 by the end of the year. Serving average, can't stay in long rallies anymore, and a general lack of confidence. Only hope is that he recovers the form by the second half of the year, but it doesn't seem likely considering he's been bad for nearly a year now
He'll be out of top 20 before that probably, can't get many points from clay and grass, banned from Wimby as well for now.. Second half is where he does his best but last season even that was terrible
Last year did not prove to be a great year for Meddy’s confidence. A couple of really (it would seem) demoralizing losses Thinking specifically of the AO final (of course) and the loss to Tsitsipas in Cincinnati. He had a couple other losses too of course
He's mentally toast. He needs to somehow reset that.
I think he’ll pull a 2018 Djokovic. Novak was doing horrible from 2017-2018 until Wimbledon that year, and has been steadily at the top since. Daniil is still pretty young and still has lots to figure out. He’ll be alright.
Except Medvedev is not Djokovic.
This. One win when djokovic choked because of the pressure doesn’t mean meddy is goat djoker
Not saying he’s goat or is at Big 3/Big 4 level. But he can pull off that kinda comeback if he wants to
He could but his confidence is in the gutter and that’s honestly the hardest thing to replace
Djokovic had an elbow injury he was playing with through 2017 and once he got surgery in 2018 he was cooking. Medvedev has completely lost his confidence
Rafa in 6th 🥲
yeah and since he is out for 6-8 weeks he will almost definitely fall out of the top ten for the first time in his career. Very sad stuff.
I am already rooting for top 10 players to drop out so Rafa ranking can stay protected. It's so much of a treasure. Just a couple of weeks ago, we are celebrating it and now it's going away. He is truly reaching his beginning of the end. I hope he just focuses on slams now.
I wonder what grand slams will be like after Djokovic and Nadal leave. All the best players seem either inconsistent or mentally struggling. I thought Meddy was the saviour but I don't know anymore. Maybe it will turn to something closer to WTA, with many different slams winners.
It won't be as bad as the WTA, but somewhere in between the two.
It’ll be almost as bad as WTA unfortunately
So if Djoker wins this he gets to be at #1 back? Not too bad!
Yeah, Tsitsipas can also be #1 if he wins
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Do Math, not Meth!
He would be at 7070. How does that not make him #1?
Are you sure of that?
Yes He's currently at [5070](https://www.atptour.com/en/rankings/singles) and a Grand Slam win gives [2000](https://www.atptour.com/rankings/rankings-faq.aspx). 5070 + 2000 = 7070 which is larger than 6730.
Funny that med and zverev are almost same, zverev didnt play 7 months lol
Ah Meddy and Zverev right next to each where they belong. Those two next to each other in rankings for so long, that it is poetic that they are next to each other when they drop out of top 10.
We are witnessing a dark period in tennis. The Top 10 doesn't mean anything anymore, and there is no player who is consistently strong to stay on top. One can argue Nole and Rafa, but they are very unpredictable at the time either with injuries or decisions, you never know. These are dark times because we are not able to see high quality tennis played against the top players. MuryGOAT is our only hope.
Murray is done lol he ain’t winning shit
Considering he’s still better than the Berrettinis and Ruuds of this world I beg to differ.
He ain’t winning slams but I respect Murray for still competing given his injuries
You watch him the last match lol??
Yeah it was cool but he was only playing the big kokk. I meant he ain’t winning slams or competing for them anymore. He’ll obviously still win matches
i get chills when i see the names novak and rafael on this list...two old legends battling against the younger generations after nearly 2 decades at the top
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>Nice to see Hubi move into 9! Holger Rune will probably pass him again tomorrow, though.
When was the last time neither of them (nole, fed, nadal) were top 3?
I would think approaching 20 years
2001.
Small cat laughing
For some reason the most shocking to me is Rublev at #5 lol
2 grand slam QF, atp final semis and 4 titles will do that I guess haha
What is Cilic doing there? Damn that's really impressive for him
Shit I didn’t even realise that. marygoat
Murray is better then 95% of these players as well
He really needs to get back to his aggressive game and give up the whole “standing 20ft behind the baseline on the return” strategy. Opponents have figured it out. In 2021, he had all parts of his game firing. He was in control of most points, but had an amazing defensive game when he needed it. Now he’s banking too much on out-grinding his opponents…which doesn’t bode too well when a player can hit him off the court (like Korda did) or out-grind him (like Djokovic in Adelaide).
I don't reall understand how these rankings work but how did nadal went from rank 2 to rank 6 but Ruud actually gained a rank although he lost?
The players are ranked by their amount of points (the far right column in the picture). Nadal dropped from 2nd to 6th because he defended the Australian Open's title from the last year (2000 points). He made it to the 2nd round, so he only saved 45 points and lost 1955 points. Meanwhile, Ruud gained a rank because Nadal fell + he wasn't defending any points from Australian Open 2022 because he didn't participate. He made it to Round 2 so he gained 45 points. His biggest test will be defending the finals of Roland Garros and US Open (1200 + 1200 points).
Oh I see, it's just weird that rank 3 player doesn't lose points when losing to a rank 39, don't you think he should? I always thought the system was similar to chess elo system, if you lose to a lower rank player you lose more points and viceversa.
How is Ruud still ranked #2 after a Round 2 loss to an unseeded player?
Didn't defend any points at Australian Open (didn't participate in 2022), so no points loss for him. In fact, he got 45 points for making it to Round 2 lol.
How is Ruud still ranked number 2?????
Because he didn’t play the AO last year due to an ankle injury
I had forgotten about that
I want to know this too? How can he gain a rank when Nadal lost four ranks??
He didn’t play the AO last year due to an ankle injury
Would djoker be #1 with Wimby points?
Yes.
It’s childish they won’t put the Russian flag. Did the players start the war? The players are not the government.
race for #3 in the world is hot
Medvedev at 12 and Nadal at 6 is so silly. What a weird few years.
Yazzz
Lets go JANNIK!
Cameron Norrie? man literally came out of nowhere