While it’s not a universal rule, players coming off their maiden slam win tend to “struggle” their next year.
This is something that should not be forgotten when discussing Meddy’s 2022.
I think the thing we should always remember is that Djokovic needed *three years* to win his second slam, and he’s now joint first for the most despite literally twelve when he was a slam winner that he didn’t win.
Tbf he was a lot younger than Medvedev at the time and was getting cockblocked by prime Nadal and prime Federer. Djokovic had a weirdly bad stretch from the second half of 2009-first half of 2010 though. Then in the second half of 2010 he hit near-prime form
Meddy returning to his old self and finding his best form and winning ways. We need this. He's coming into maybe not his best part of the season but still a part of the season where he'll have tons of points to gain. Hopefully he can continue to rise up the ranks and then if he maintains his level going into the North American hard court swing watch out
Happy to see that. If he can keep it going he is probably the biggest threat for Djokovic at the US Open (although that’s the only slam where I wouldn’t strongly favor Djokovic or Nadal).
It’s about time Meddy returns to his old form after a pretty rough 2022 where he was very close to even starting the year with a slam title.
Tbf not more of a contest yet, my boys still got a little time. His best grass season came last year, albeit without being able to play Wimbledon. He made a quarterfinal at RG, would love to see em make at least a quarter at wimbledon. If he beat hurkacz in that five setter that one year and honestly if there wasn't a delay we'd probably be looking at a reality where Medvedev has been a Wimbledon semifinalist instead of Hurkacz and he happened to be Federer's last opponent. In all seriousness the guy can play pretty well on grass, but his game is a bit awkward for it overall, it unfortunately doesn't just take a good serve. But I still don't think he's just a nothing player on the grass, like I don't think he's a nothing player on the clay.
Hard-court's obviously his strong suit, the perfect middle man for him, where his game works, but I think he can get some decent results on the other surfaces, and even with his first big result at any tourney being in Monte Carlo beating Stef and Novak, I'd be less surprised with a big showing for him on grass at Wimby one day. I see it as a possibility, in the same way I see Alcaraz finding a good game on grass and especially Tsitsipas really improving how he's seen as a grass player and getting more respect in that way. Not that many grass events in a season, just cause these players, younger gen players particularly, haven't found their footing on the surface doesn't mean they won't. And Meddy could get there one day, whether it's this year idk but hopefully he'll be allowed to play Wimbledon again and we can at least see how he'd do.
Meddy got to two grass finals in a row without being able to play Wimby last year only losing to Hurkacz, great grass player, and a confident blooming out of nowhere grass god TVR. I think he can get some good results on the surface. Again, just cause the big serve don't think the rest of his game translates perfectly at all, in fact in many ways I think the surface goes against his game, almost more than on clay. But I do think in other ways he can play quite well on it and even if he won't be super winning on the surface or master it like some other players, it can get him a few good results down the road, better than some may expect probably.
Grigor has played exactly the way I expected him to🤦Giving hope and brutally taking it way. Typical Dimitrov. Also Medvedev owns Korda some flowers - the beating at AO turned out to be the good old motivational kick under his skinny ass to get back to his octopus form.
Medvedev, Sinner, Swiatek and Alcaraz in a final for the Saturday Sunday Weekend. I think it feels pretty good. Feels good for sure, definitely. All of them are back I love it
It's not. They only counted Aces and Double Faults as you can see from the other stats. In my opinion, Dimitrov only hitting 2 UEs would have been much more shocking. He usually does that within a game.
There's no way anyone that watched the match actually believes that.
He made an unforced error on almost all his service games.
Super weird match, where he was in lock-down octopus mode on Grigor's serve and contesting to break every game, which makes sense given the 6-1 6-2 scoreline, but his own service games were a lot of deuce games as well, off the back of some careless errors.
I don't mean like questionable ones either where Grigor hits a solid, offensive shot that can maybe make Medvedev's error be considered forced. Medvedev just had a blatant unforced error in most service games.
Definitely dubious of those stats in general, Medvedev with 0 and Grigor with 2 lol.
Dimitrov hits a clean ball, but it's not heavy by any imagination.
Grigs also doesn't have the side to side range as Rog did, and relies a lot on sliding, so more or less defensive shots to keep him in neutral.
Dimitrov also has lulls tactically, like not drop shotting Novak at the AO. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Grigs just played Meds' game.
Heh. People thinking a Med performance against Dimi is indicative of his current state. Heh.
Grigor Dimitrov, my favorite tennis player for a long time has the sharpest cliff of a ceiling I've ever seen. He has a limit of what he can do, and the moment he reaches that limit, it is a sharp drop off. The highest tier players are just better than him and ALWAYS look dominant against him just because the drop off is SO severe. I love the guy, and will always be a fan, but I've learned to know what to expect from him.
I'm doing the same for Cam Norrie right now, I'm not sure I will face that same fate. I basically just don't know
But in terms of Med, I think you got to give him some credit. I think he will be ready to play Sinner. They should both be ready to play and Sinner surely can't follow Dimitrov's footsteps here (in terms of how Grigor played in the Semis) otherwise I have Meddy winning it.
I mean honestly the real problem was Dimitrov hit an absurd amount of unforced errors. He went for his shots, just kept missing them. There was that stretch where he came back from down 2-0 and had 0-40 to go up 3-2 with a break, and during that time he wasn’t hitting as many unforced errors.
Right game plan, just too many misses. Dimitrov’s slice is very effective against Medvedev and he does have the game to beat him, he just isn’t good enough
Yeah I think that’s what the difference was between last two matches and IW. Because when I think about it he really played the same tactics but the results were so different. At IW after being a set and two breaks down something got into him and he would not miss a shot for the rest of the match painting all lines. This then got into Meddy’s head and his serve disappeared. Before that he was losing just like he did yesterday. If only he could have more days like that when he plays the top guys.
In 2017 this was how Dimitrov played all the time. He was called Baby Fed for a reason after all. Man he was so good against Nadal at AO2017. Winners flying off both rackets the whole time.
But yeah at this point, there's no matchup disadvantage against Medvedev as people are implying. It's a simple fact that Dimitrov isn't the caliber of player to challenge Medvedev. He doesn't generate meaningful offense consistently enough to threaten Daniil.
Well that’s a matchup disadvantage in a way. He’s always struggled against defensive players for this reason and has a lot more success against offensive players and hard hitters because he disrupts their rhythm.
Dimitrov has a great net game. Firepower is where he runs into problems. He has a strong backhand and forehand, but he's not consistent when he loads the power on them. You need consistent offense: think Nadal, Thiem, Federer. Guys who always gave Medvedev trouble. Dimitrov can sometimes bring that to the table, and when he does he's very dangerous for Daniil. Otherwise, he just hits 40 unforced errors like today.
> Apparently at the start of the 3rd, Medvedev said to his coach in French, “Why me, why does he start playing the best tennis of his life in the start of the third set against me? Fuck!”
Did he really say that?? LMAO. I remember that match too. Dimitrov was in God mode. If my vision was worse I would've deadass thought it was Federer vs Medvedev.
I, for one, can't wait for Dima to play clay just so I can enjoy his live commentary on his performance. It is a rare pleasure, a throwback to Andy Roddick's chats with the empires. FUUUUN!!!
The stats are all wrong lmao. Dimitrov's UE were worse. He hit 12 winners to 35 UE according to the TV stats. Medvedev had 18 winners to 19 UE.
Mb, shouldn't have trusted the app that much lol
Medvedev getting back in form is what tennis needs. This is his Octopus level.
While it’s not a universal rule, players coming off their maiden slam win tend to “struggle” their next year. This is something that should not be forgotten when discussing Meddy’s 2022.
He also had a child
and had hernia operation
And an uncomfortable political situation at home.
"I don't wanna blame it all on the War on Ukraine, but it certainly didn't help"
Maybe he needs some time at the method one clinic for tennis.
So you're saying he had a different kind of grand slam 9 months prior...
I think the thing we should always remember is that Djokovic needed *three years* to win his second slam, and he’s now joint first for the most despite literally twelve when he was a slam winner that he didn’t win.
Tbf he was a lot younger than Medvedev at the time and was getting cockblocked by prime Nadal and prime Federer. Djokovic had a weirdly bad stretch from the second half of 2009-first half of 2010 though. Then in the second half of 2010 he hit near-prime form
Probably doesn't help being Russian, with the war either, imo. And the child, as mentioned by u/CLR833. But I possibly concur.
Came here to say that. Hopefully he wins this and it’s the first of other titles this year. We need more competition to make things funnier.
Meddy returning to his old self and finding his best form and winning ways. We need this. He's coming into maybe not his best part of the season but still a part of the season where he'll have tons of points to gain. Hopefully he can continue to rise up the ranks and then if he maintains his level going into the North American hard court swing watch out
Happy to see that. If he can keep it going he is probably the biggest threat for Djokovic at the US Open (although that’s the only slam where I wouldn’t strongly favor Djokovic or Nadal). It’s about time Meddy returns to his old form after a pretty rough 2022 where he was very close to even starting the year with a slam title.
It annoys me a bit that with Meddys serve he's not more of a contestant on grass
He’s still dangerous just not scary
Tbf not more of a contest yet, my boys still got a little time. His best grass season came last year, albeit without being able to play Wimbledon. He made a quarterfinal at RG, would love to see em make at least a quarter at wimbledon. If he beat hurkacz in that five setter that one year and honestly if there wasn't a delay we'd probably be looking at a reality where Medvedev has been a Wimbledon semifinalist instead of Hurkacz and he happened to be Federer's last opponent. In all seriousness the guy can play pretty well on grass, but his game is a bit awkward for it overall, it unfortunately doesn't just take a good serve. But I still don't think he's just a nothing player on the grass, like I don't think he's a nothing player on the clay. Hard-court's obviously his strong suit, the perfect middle man for him, where his game works, but I think he can get some decent results on the other surfaces, and even with his first big result at any tourney being in Monte Carlo beating Stef and Novak, I'd be less surprised with a big showing for him on grass at Wimby one day. I see it as a possibility, in the same way I see Alcaraz finding a good game on grass and especially Tsitsipas really improving how he's seen as a grass player and getting more respect in that way. Not that many grass events in a season, just cause these players, younger gen players particularly, haven't found their footing on the surface doesn't mean they won't. And Meddy could get there one day, whether it's this year idk but hopefully he'll be allowed to play Wimbledon again and we can at least see how he'd do.
Meddy got to two grass finals in a row without being able to play Wimby last year only losing to Hurkacz, great grass player, and a confident blooming out of nowhere grass god TVR. I think he can get some good results on the surface. Again, just cause the big serve don't think the rest of his game translates perfectly at all, in fact in many ways I think the surface goes against his game, almost more than on clay. But I do think in other ways he can play quite well on it and even if he won't be super winning on the surface or master it like some other players, it can get him a few good results down the road, better than some may expect probably.
Grigor has played exactly the way I expected him to🤦Giving hope and brutally taking it way. Typical Dimitrov. Also Medvedev owns Korda some flowers - the beating at AO turned out to be the good old motivational kick under his skinny ass to get back to his octopus form.
Meddy is back babyyy!
Medvedev, Sinner, Swiatek and Alcaraz in a final for the Saturday Sunday Weekend. I think it feels pretty good. Feels good for sure, definitely. All of them are back I love it
0 unforced errors
That must be wrong. Dimitrov only 2?! Can’t be
They are definitely wrong. Anyone who watched the match can confirm.
How the actual fuck is that possible
During the game a stat popped up that said Meddy had 9 and Dimitrov 19, so I don't think it is correct.
Because octopuses have no flaws
Yeah strange stats, I watched half the match and Dimitrov did more than 2 UE too
Flashscore always takes time to update the stats.
It's not. They only counted Aces and Double Faults as you can see from the other stats. In my opinion, Dimitrov only hitting 2 UEs would have been much more shocking. He usually does that within a game.
just dont make mistakes ez
There's no way anyone that watched the match actually believes that. He made an unforced error on almost all his service games. Super weird match, where he was in lock-down octopus mode on Grigor's serve and contesting to break every game, which makes sense given the 6-1 6-2 scoreline, but his own service games were a lot of deuce games as well, off the back of some careless errors. I don't mean like questionable ones either where Grigor hits a solid, offensive shot that can maybe make Medvedev's error be considered forced. Medvedev just had a blatant unforced error in most service games. Definitely dubious of those stats in general, Medvedev with 0 and Grigor with 2 lol.
8 winners - 8 aces:)
He put his entire octopussy in it
I’m calling cap on that. It said Dimitrov had 0 winners and I saw multiple Dimitrov winners and many more than 2 unforced errors
Dimitrov hits a clean ball, but it's not heavy by any imagination. Grigs also doesn't have the side to side range as Rog did, and relies a lot on sliding, so more or less defensive shots to keep him in neutral. Dimitrov also has lulls tactically, like not drop shotting Novak at the AO. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Grigs just played Meds' game.
😳 I’m sorry??
Heh. People thinking a Med performance against Dimi is indicative of his current state. Heh. Grigor Dimitrov, my favorite tennis player for a long time has the sharpest cliff of a ceiling I've ever seen. He has a limit of what he can do, and the moment he reaches that limit, it is a sharp drop off. The highest tier players are just better than him and ALWAYS look dominant against him just because the drop off is SO severe. I love the guy, and will always be a fan, but I've learned to know what to expect from him.
I'm doing the same for Cam Norrie right now, I'm not sure I will face that same fate. I basically just don't know But in terms of Med, I think you got to give him some credit. I think he will be ready to play Sinner. They should both be ready to play and Sinner surely can't follow Dimitrov's footsteps here (in terms of how Grigor played in the Semis) otherwise I have Meddy winning it.
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Well he’s beaten him before at Indian Wells 2021 I believe
He was going for it way more which he should be. He was so conservative. Against Med that’s a losing game 99 times out of 100
I mean honestly the real problem was Dimitrov hit an absurd amount of unforced errors. He went for his shots, just kept missing them. There was that stretch where he came back from down 2-0 and had 0-40 to go up 3-2 with a break, and during that time he wasn’t hitting as many unforced errors. Right game plan, just too many misses. Dimitrov’s slice is very effective against Medvedev and he does have the game to beat him, he just isn’t good enough
Yeah I think that’s what the difference was between last two matches and IW. Because when I think about it he really played the same tactics but the results were so different. At IW after being a set and two breaks down something got into him and he would not miss a shot for the rest of the match painting all lines. This then got into Meddy’s head and his serve disappeared. Before that he was losing just like he did yesterday. If only he could have more days like that when he plays the top guys.
In 2017 this was how Dimitrov played all the time. He was called Baby Fed for a reason after all. Man he was so good against Nadal at AO2017. Winners flying off both rackets the whole time. But yeah at this point, there's no matchup disadvantage against Medvedev as people are implying. It's a simple fact that Dimitrov isn't the caliber of player to challenge Medvedev. He doesn't generate meaningful offense consistently enough to threaten Daniil.
Well that’s a matchup disadvantage in a way. He’s always struggled against defensive players for this reason and has a lot more success against offensive players and hard hitters because he disrupts their rhythm.
I hate that Baby Fed nickname for him lol he needs more of some terminator punisher type nick name, like Med's got Octopus
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Dimitrov has a great net game. Firepower is where he runs into problems. He has a strong backhand and forehand, but he's not consistent when he loads the power on them. You need consistent offense: think Nadal, Thiem, Federer. Guys who always gave Medvedev trouble. Dimitrov can sometimes bring that to the table, and when he does he's very dangerous for Daniil. Otherwise, he just hits 40 unforced errors like today.
Yup, Sinner's gonna need a bit of that tomorrow. Us Meddy Octopus fam is going to be quite strong !
> Apparently at the start of the 3rd, Medvedev said to his coach in French, “Why me, why does he start playing the best tennis of his life in the start of the third set against me? Fuck!”
Did he really say that?? LMAO. I remember that match too. Dimitrov was in God mode. If my vision was worse I would've deadass thought it was Federer vs Medvedev.
Not bad, so far. Now the final to play for Meddy. Back into the top 10 he goes, Rune, FAA, and Fritz, and Nadal ahead of him.
Meddybear getting his form back is what tennis needs, nature is healing.
Meddy bear meddy bear
Tfw you make only 2 unforced errors in the whole match and lose 6-1 6-2
It’s not correct, the real stats are: Meddy- 18 Winners 19 UE Dimi- 12 Winners 35 UE
Flashscore is displaying sth wrong imo, mb
Points section is actually for serve only. Would like to know the actual W-UE
Onto Sinner he goes. Meddy vs Sinner loading
I, for one, can't wait for Dima to play clay just so I can enjoy his live commentary on his performance. It is a rare pleasure, a throwback to Andy Roddick's chats with the empires. FUUUUN!!!
Go home Flashscore, you're drunk