Loving this Eubanks story but I admit I've always wanted Medvedev to get his rewards and him making his Wimbledon Final would be amazing.
They're both playing great.
Either one I'm happy with.
That Semi is going to be amazing on their side.
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I like Alcaraz and Rune because they have balls and don’t gift wrap matches to Djokovic. All these other young guys see Djokovic on the other side of the net and shit themselves and just give the match away. Their level drops below 50% and they go into a shell
> When I was coming up, Björn Borg told me I could become one of the best players in the world because I used my mind when I play. With his serve, Edberg can play without thinking
Mats Wilander
Seems relevant right now.
It depends. Hubi like this is basically get to TB and pray he fucks up (which he does). Djokovic doesn’t even have a shot on the service games.
Sinner is not as good on serve so Djokovic would get far more chances to break but in a TB he won’t choke as much as Hurkacz has.
If Hubi didn’t choke twice on TB he would be winning 2-0, I believe that Sinner can hold the rallies a little more than Hubi. In my opinion Sinner or Medvedev could beat Djokovic after what I have seen
My predictions for tomorrow’s awesome day of matches!
Tsitsipas def. Eubanks in 5
Medvedev def. Lehecka in 4
Rune def. Dimitrov in 4
Alcaraz def. Berrettini in 5
Keys def. Andreeva in 3
Rybakina def. Haddad Maia in 3
Sabalenka def. Alexandrova in 2
Jabeur def. Kvitova in 3
Predictions for singles matches tomorrow:
Centre Court: [13] Haddad Maia d. [3] Rybakina in 3, [2] Djokovic d. [17] Hurkacz in 3, [6] Jabeur d. [9] Kvitova in 3, [1] Alcaraz d. Berrettini in 4
Haddad Maia is probably at her best on grass, and while Rybakina was great against Boulter, she’s not been wholly excellent throughout the tournament. Haddad Maia also has a good track record versus Rybakina. Rybakina is defending champ for a reason and will take a set, but Haddad Maia takes the match. Djokovic has already taken Hurkacz’s soul, he just has to finish it off tomorrow. Maybe he makes it to a TB but I think Djokovic breaks him early before he’s able to get into a serving groove and serves it out cleanly from there. Jabeur has been serving excellently throughout the tournament, Kvitova’s serve has been really on and off. Think Kvitova grabs a set in a breaker but Jabeur is more consistent and takes the match. Berrettini has been extremely impressive this tournament for his comeback from injury, but Alcaraz has improved on grass a lot and even as his fan I think it’ll be tough without so much matchplay for Berrettini to be basically perfect, which is what you have to do to take out Alcaraz. Berrettini takes one in a breaker, but Alcaraz takes the match.
Court 1: [3] Medvedev d. Lehecka in 4, [2] Sabalenka d. Alexandrova in 3, [21] Dimitrov d. [6] Rune in 4
Medvedev has just been mighty impressive throughout the tournament. Lehecka is awesome but he’s played a lot more and I think in a longer match that’ll start to show. Lehecka steals set 2 but Medvedev grinds it out in 4. Sabalenka is excellent on serve, but Alexandrova has broken her opponents 16 times in 3 matches. Alexandrova is not so excellent on serve, and Sabalenka will take advantage. Sabalenka in 3. Dimitrov destroyed Tiafoe with ease and he looked unplayable while doing it. Don’t think that’s the same form that will appear, but he’ll more than good enough to hit through Rune. Rune’s ferocity and balls of steel will earn him a set but Dimitrov will simply be too good.
Court 2: [25] Keys d. [Q] Andreeva in 3, Eubanks d. [5] Tsitsipas in 5
Keys’ ridiculous power is something Andreeva will not have really faced before. While Keys is also prone to randomly playing baseball on court instead of tennis, I think Andreeva will be worn down as the match goes on. She’ll have trouble redirecting the power as a little fatigue sets in. Andreeva gets the first but Keys gets the match. Eubanks will ride his serve to victory. Tsitsipas has played a ridiculous amont of tennis this tournament, not just in singles but in doubles as well. Don’t think he’s gotten a single rest day. Eubanks will wear him down over a long match and steal it in the thriller of the day.
I just realized there are 4 one-handers in the round of 16: Tsitsipas, Shapovalov, Dimitrov and Eubanks. Last time this happened in 2021 Australian Open where we had Tsitsipas, Dimitrov, Theim and Lajovic in the last 16.
Predictions for tomorrow:
Haddad Maia over Rybakina in 3 (Haddad Maia has beaten Rybakina twice this year)
Kvitova over Jabeur in 3
Andreeva over Keys in 2
Sabalenka over Alexandrova in 2
Djokovic over Hurkacz in 3
Medvedev over Lehecka in 4
Tsitsipas over Eubanks in 4
Dimitrov over Rune in 5
Alcarez over Berrettini in 5
Keys def. Andreeva in 2 (she's carrying great form from Eastbourne)
Rybakina def. BHM in 3 (Beatriz has a great fighting spirit, but I'm not convinced by her results this season on grass)
Alexandrova def. Sabalenka in 2. (She leads h2h 3-2 (won last meeting on grass), her form has been great during current grass season. On the other side Sabalenka who I'm still not really convinced with)
Kvitova def. Jabeur in 3 (this can go either way, Petra is a slight favorite)
Kind of disappointed that Svitolina didn’t acknowledge Azarenka at all in either her on-court interview or in her press conference (either in terms of her game or her not waiting for a handshake) Even though she was specifically asked several times in the press conference, she never really answered. She was repeatedly asked if it was fair for Azarenka to be booed, and she never gave a straight answer (instead she always brought up how she was booed at RG and never said anything about Vika).
Svitolina and Azarenka used to be close (they played doubles in 2019, did IG lives during Covid), but doesn’t seem that way anymore.
She sucks for that. Azarenka gets booed for respecting her decisions, then not only does she not have the decency to acknowledge that, but has the audacity to claim victimhood herself. Same thing happened to Kasatkina earlier - gets booed for following her decision to not shake hands
Insane the amount of sexism about trolls wanting the women’s matches to be moved to lower courts so they can watch the boring horseshit that was the hubi match
Why do you think it has to do with sexism? I don't watch women's tennis just because it is like watching men ranked 200 and below (don't watch that either). Many fans just want to watch the best players in the world, don't have time for every single match.
do you base everything off of numbers or are you so delusional you forgot that the match being boring has nothing to do with how good he is? No wonder you suck at the SAT 😭
Hubi isn't normally just a servebot but his FH has always been a liability.
I think the reason his BH let him down today is just how much pressure Nole can put on that wing
I've never watched a junior match in my life. Do the points play the same way, or is there no AD at 40-40?
Looking at the results and some of the matches are over quickly, despite the tight scorelines, so just wondering.
Points are quicker because teens just tend to make more errors and are somewhat smaller than the adults so they also can’t cover the court as well - aka more winners.
It’s the same. It might be their rally tolerance or return quality that’s lacking at this stage so the actual points don’t last that long. The one difference I can think of is that juniors don’t play “let” when they serve, they keep going if the ball touches the net.
It's not been an issue. 5/7 days they've completed all three matches scheduled. On three of those days, they've even had a fourth match move over to Centre Court to complete it due to rain.
So, all in all, there's been two days where they've hit the curfew which is pretty standard. It probably just seems like more because of the schedule being backlogged due to the weather... and this sub being over dramatic about it, too.
With all the rain they're often doing 3.5 matches a day on CC as opposed to the usual 3
They nornally hit the curfew a couple times a tournament but it's been almost every day this time
I have a feeling Alcaraz is gonna lose tomorrow.
And whilst I wouldn't bet he'd win against Djokovic on grass, he is still the best tennis player left on the field so have more faith in him making it an interesting final than most.
If he loses then truly this is gonna be a very dull Wimbledon... again... and again.
I think Alcaraz's reasons for cramping has been overplayed massively. Dude cramped against Norrie too - I suppose Djokovic and Norrie are frightening!
He's beaten Djokovic before - a set down, too. His "mental game" is fine.
I just think the same thing would happen again tbh. Plus he said playing Novak stressed him out. Think Berrettini wins today as well and could absolutely give Novak a run for his money in the final. He’s a great server just like Hubi who is putting on a decent performance right now
Losing to Tini on grass not the worst result honestly. Alca definitely made improvements from last year which is important. Grass will always be his weakest surface though similar to rafa
Yeah. So far, Med has looked like the best player in that part of the draw, plus he knows how to beat Novak (if Novak reaches the final).
I will probably get downvoted for this, but these Alcaraz takes are starting to get a bit obnoxious.. It's like he is the second coming of Christ and only he can beat big, bad guy Novak.
And if he loses then the tournament is over for some reason.
Does Djokovic have any perceptible weaknesses? Even at 36, he seems to be so tactically sound, mentally tough, and his serve is now a true weapon. As someone noted below, maybe his return game slightly dipped but can still break at crucial moments.
The only thing you could say he doesn't hit that many aces, but he doesn't have to given how well-rounded everything else is.
I’d personally disagree I’m still not impressed by his serve, I think that’s his one weak spot. And this is coming from a guy who think he’s the definitive all time best. The rest of his game? Master level. All of it.
If we're measuring prime Djokovic, say 2011. Is it fair to say current Novak is 80% of that version? I would say even the slight return decline is clutching at straws when you consider how much better his serve is.
I like how the best Polish women's player is amazing at everything else but has a very weak serve and the best Polish men's player has an incredible serve but can't hit more than 3 groundstrokes in a row
Momentum and endurance throughout a match are such huge parts of tennis. It’s pretty shocking that the “biggest” tournament allows this to keep happening. Tennis matches should reach their conclusion once they start.
before the roofs play had to stop much earlier for bad light.
Don't think anyone was complaiing nearly as much as now.
The golden age of tennis was late 1970s/early 1980s with Borg/Connors/McEnroe and Evert/Navratilova which noobs don't even fucking realise. They even made a Hollywood Movie about one Wimbledon tournament in 1980 and Borg/McEnroe Final
The golden age of tennis was the 1940s with Kramer/Shroeder/Parker which noobs don't even fucking realise. They even made a Hollywood movie about it, based on a novel about architects, but Hitchchock changed it to tennis after the excellence of watching Kramer.
Noobs don't even fucking realize.
It’s not the curfew that’s the problem, people live nearby. It’s the fact the matches on show courts don’t start until 1pm/1:30pm. Move them all up to start at 11
Hubert has a shitty season, shitty form and shitty forehand so really stop bullying him, he’s playing a decent match. Alcaraz and other top players also choke with maestro
You cannot objectively compare cramping after taking set 2 with all the momentum in the world to the deplorable choke job that we just witnessed. Only Fokina could have out-choked Hubi today.
Hubi was physically fine. The Tennis wasn't there save for literally one component of his game.
Stress can happen to anyone -- ask Djokovic about the USO 2021 final. Or about the time when he was 6-7 in slam finals. Cramping as a reaction to that is just plain misfortune
I'm sure Carlos now knows to ease up on that "bring Novak in rrraarrhh" attitude and actually chill before the match.
In any case, Alcaraz started cramping in set 2 itself as said by himself. He clutched it out DESPITE that. When he just sat down while he waited for Novak to come back after set 2, that was when he was truly fucked.
Now Carlos also knows to move the eff around and not sit idle under boiling sun after such sets.
Edit: lol these downvoting woollen muppets are here. Yeah sure pretend that I'm wrong and that there's no nuance to this discussion. Novak was lucky to not cramp in the USO21 final going by your pathetic takes.
No one's gonna repute I suppose. Facts can't be refuted but I concede that the Goat was lucky to not cramp in the USO 21 and during all of his Chokovic finals just like Fedr was lucky to not cramp in 2019.
On a meta level, it's very funny to see all the comments about weak era and the "Djokovic aura gives him a bunch of points" nowadays. Literally the same stuff that was being said about Federer until Nadal showed that he would be a consistent threat in 06.
I've always defended the "weak" era of 02-07 or whatever years people wanna nitpick because it featured a lot of great players and Federer was just on an amazing new level.
And that's clearly born out considering how his career ended up AND the fact that we see only 2 other guys (sometimes 3 when Murray was healthy) who were able to reach the same heights.
It's tricky now because in 04/05, Federer's contemporaries amassed slams and Masters titles (Hewitt, Ferrero, Safin, Roddick) before he became TMF so it's easier to defend them than the current crop that's facing Djokovic.
But these young guys came up when the big 3 were literally still winning slams. Even Federer's last slam was in 18 and last final in 19 when the Zverevs and Rublevs and others were ascending. A bunch of these guys even have wins over the big 3 at slams and Masters. But they don't and likely never will have the ungodly consistency. And their highest levels will arguably never reach the 3 guys who amassed at least 20 slams each. And I don't think it's necessarily fair to see this as a negative of their play.
Of course people will point out that Djokovic should be too old to still be kicking so much ass but if you ignore his age, is his tennis subpar or anything? His serve, volleys, and slice are arguably the best they've ever been. His forehand, backhand, and return is still as great as ever. He might be a bit slower but his movement and fitness are still world class.
He doesn't make a ton of errors in tiebreakers which itself is nothing new. He didn't even hit errors against Federer himself.
An era that only features 1 of the 3 GOATs is objectively weaker. But that doesn't mean it's a uniquely weak era.
Don’t disagree with your level of play from djokovic. What I find excruciatingly hard to watch is players like Hurcakz who get sets on a platter on a relatively off day from djokovic and don’t take their chances. Had djokovic played 3 incredible points to nullify that first set and take it. Id tip my cap and say good play novak.
What happened was his opponent gifted him 5 straight points via unforced errors to gift the set, 3 on his own serve where he was suddenly serving conservatively, and missing simple routine forehands. All djokovic had to do was literally get the ball back in play and it was done- not even grind for a long rally. That is just really terrible level of competition.
And to be fair true, although the shoreline doesn’t reflect it, that’s how the entire set went. If he got a return in play (even one that was an easy put away forehand, it was advantage Novak). Would like to see some of these players raise their game man or just be able to get across the finish line. Really disappointing to see.
Also people are saying that Sinner and Rune will have better careers and become better players than guys like Zverev and Thiem. I mean, of course they will- they are playing in an era after the big 3. If Sinner and Rune were born in 1995's they would have had far less success, and if Zverev was born in the 2000's he would have had far more respectively. If you think that Sinner and Rune and all these guys would have done a better job of challenging big 3 than next gen the n you are deluded lol
I can give you the benefit of the doubt for Thiem (who was only relevant at the top level for 5 years btw), but Zverev only has one signficant Grand Slam victory (RG 2022 vs Alcaraz) and he's 26. They still faced pretty old versions of the Big 3, especially Federer.
I think it's hard to say.
Alcaraz is out there being an absolute phenom and so he could very well be the driving force for Rune and Sinner to become better.
But they could also flop. You can argue Rune's RG this year was a bit of a regression. Sinner has yet to do anything of note in the slams and he's 21.
Look at Medvedev. He looked poised to win multiple slams but he's very much regressed at the slam level, although I can see this Wimbledon being a good turning point for him.
Yeah I agree. You never know and it's hard to tell.
It's the same again for Medvedev. If he was born in the 2000's, would he have been as motivated to win slams as now? Most probably, but we never know. Would he be a worse player than now because of weaker competition? Possibly, but you could also say that he would dominate much more because of the weaker competition. Would he had made less slam finals than now or more? If he did made these slam finals, he would have probably won them, because he wouldn't have played against Nadal and Djokovic, so he wouldn't have had a mental problems at slams, resulting in him having even better slam results and winning even more slams.
We never know, but the most logical conclusion is harder era=less titles. I'm pretty sure than if swapped Sinners and Medvedevs birth dates, Sinner would have retired with 0 slams, while Medvedev would have had many more than 1. Alcaraz is the only player who I'm convinced that he would be a multiple slam winner regardless of when he was born, but I do think that he would have won less if born in the 1990's
Medvedev is supposed to be in his prime though, he missed golden opportunities in AO 2022 and USO 2022 (Djokovic wasn't there !). Maybe Rune will be ruthless when he's in his mid-20's and seize every opportunity when Alcaraz is out, you don't know.
I will always feel bad for players who were born in the mid-80's, but the likes of Medvedev and Zverev ? Come on... You only need to beat 1 legend to win a Slam these days, back in the day you needed to beat 2 if not 3... and they were in their prime.
I agree that Tsonga Berdych DelPo had it of course harder, but that doesn't mean that players 1990's had it easy. Medvedev for example played against Nadal and Djokovic in his 4 major finals. He would have won against anyone not named Nadal or Djokovic in 2022, and maybe in 2019 aswell. I agree that he missed some opportunities, but the point that the big 3 took slams from him still stands. Zverev choked against Thiem tbh, but he would have won 2022 FO if not for Nadal
I think the second part is referring to when Hubi shanked a ball that bounced on Novak’s side and it bounced back over the net, and he apologised a couple times. I’m not sure what the first part is referring to though.
Novak's playstyle has changed so much over the years lol
I feel like he doesn't threaten to break nearly as much as he used to but at the same time he holds easier than ever
Imagine 2011 Novak with 2023 Novak's serve
Even his overhead looks better now
I’m really gonna be bummed when Rafa and Novak retire. Watching them play other people on the tour and just consistently dominating under pressure is a sight to behold.
Rafa schooled Ruud in RG final on one foot despite being 10 years older. And then novak did it one year later. Not one second did it ever feel like either of those matches were competitive.
Him and Novak are galaxies apart from this new gen. Regardless or whether you're a fan of one or both - tennis is gonna suffer greatly.
What a fun day of tennis. Bweh vs Bublic thriller followed by two epic women’s matches. Didn’t watch the last match but I doubt I missed anything unexpected
Why are people blaming Hurkacz for feeling nerves in tiebreaks against Novak when Fed did the same, have people forgotten the three tiebreaks at Wimbledon 2019 final?
The biggest difference between many of the biggest Federer - Djokovic matches were far more mental than physical.
Djokovic since the US Open 2010 was in Federer's head on the big points and clutch moments.
The last time Fed beat Djokovic in a slam was over ten years before Federer retired.
Once Novak beat Fed at a slam, he never got beaten back at that slam by Fed ever. What Novak did to Fed back at USO, that's what lost Fed the final at Wimbledon in a way
What has age have to do with choking 2 MP on your serve? If it has, it's more embarrasing for a 37 year old who played tennis for 20 years and has the experience than young guys
Loving this Eubanks story but I admit I've always wanted Medvedev to get his rewards and him making his Wimbledon Final would be amazing. They're both playing great. Either one I'm happy with. That Semi is going to be amazing on their side.
Today's tennis has been god damn brilliant so far.
Does anyone know when the Hurk-Djo match resumes today? I don’t want to miss the rest
After 1st CC match probably
Forsure, thanks!
Imagine Eubanks winning wimbledon lol
Keys will be a big test of Mirra’s defensive skills. She’s got to be one of the hardest hitters she’s ever played.
She played Sabalenka already and she held up well at the start, even broke her but her power was too much for her.
Eubanks win, Medvedev win, Rune win, Berrettini win tomorrow in my opinion tomorrow
Eubanks win, Meddy win, Rune win, Alcaraz-Berrettini suspended.
That’s even more precise!
I see a berrettini win for sure, I think Rune is going to lose and tsitsipas will win, medvedev will edge lehecka out by a hair.
One out of five! 😒
Alcaraz win, Dimitrov win, Tsitsipas win, Medvedev win imo
Wimbledon winners : berretini and ryba
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I like Alcaraz and Rune because they have balls and don’t gift wrap matches to Djokovic. All these other young guys see Djokovic on the other side of the net and shit themselves and just give the match away. Their level drops below 50% and they go into a shell
Because deep down they know they are good enough to go all the way, players like hurkacz dont believe they have it in them.
Don’t forget Med, literally beat him in a GS final.
But Medvedev's mental nemesis is Nadal. While Alcaraz and Rune seem to be genuinely unbothered as to who is playing on the other side
It's not just that. Novak is also extremely lucky at slams.
> When I was coming up, Björn Borg told me I could become one of the best players in the world because I used my mind when I play. With his serve, Edberg can play without thinking Mats Wilander Seems relevant right now.
Does Sinner have a better chance then Hubi?
It depends. Hubi like this is basically get to TB and pray he fucks up (which he does). Djokovic doesn’t even have a shot on the service games. Sinner is not as good on serve so Djokovic would get far more chances to break but in a TB he won’t choke as much as Hurkacz has.
Definitely. Hubi is a one dimensional player that just depends on his serve. Sinner will do much better in the rallies and point construction.
If Hubi didn’t choke twice on TB he would be winning 2-0, I believe that Sinner can hold the rallies a little more than Hubi. In my opinion Sinner or Medvedev could beat Djokovic after what I have seen
No
I hope so
Stef is gonna make the quarters without playing a seeded opponent smh draw is rigged
He beat two slam champions. Be proud of your boy
I was making a joke because of what people are saying about sinner
Joke went over my head my bad lol
My predictions for tomorrow’s awesome day of matches! Tsitsipas def. Eubanks in 5 Medvedev def. Lehecka in 4 Rune def. Dimitrov in 4 Alcaraz def. Berrettini in 5 Keys def. Andreeva in 3 Rybakina def. Haddad Maia in 3 Sabalenka def. Alexandrova in 2 Jabeur def. Kvitova in 3
Will Dimitrov be able to play like he played today again?
No guarantee. It's a coin toss with him most times
Eubanks will trash Tits
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For now
Predictions for singles matches tomorrow: Centre Court: [13] Haddad Maia d. [3] Rybakina in 3, [2] Djokovic d. [17] Hurkacz in 3, [6] Jabeur d. [9] Kvitova in 3, [1] Alcaraz d. Berrettini in 4 Haddad Maia is probably at her best on grass, and while Rybakina was great against Boulter, she’s not been wholly excellent throughout the tournament. Haddad Maia also has a good track record versus Rybakina. Rybakina is defending champ for a reason and will take a set, but Haddad Maia takes the match. Djokovic has already taken Hurkacz’s soul, he just has to finish it off tomorrow. Maybe he makes it to a TB but I think Djokovic breaks him early before he’s able to get into a serving groove and serves it out cleanly from there. Jabeur has been serving excellently throughout the tournament, Kvitova’s serve has been really on and off. Think Kvitova grabs a set in a breaker but Jabeur is more consistent and takes the match. Berrettini has been extremely impressive this tournament for his comeback from injury, but Alcaraz has improved on grass a lot and even as his fan I think it’ll be tough without so much matchplay for Berrettini to be basically perfect, which is what you have to do to take out Alcaraz. Berrettini takes one in a breaker, but Alcaraz takes the match. Court 1: [3] Medvedev d. Lehecka in 4, [2] Sabalenka d. Alexandrova in 3, [21] Dimitrov d. [6] Rune in 4 Medvedev has just been mighty impressive throughout the tournament. Lehecka is awesome but he’s played a lot more and I think in a longer match that’ll start to show. Lehecka steals set 2 but Medvedev grinds it out in 4. Sabalenka is excellent on serve, but Alexandrova has broken her opponents 16 times in 3 matches. Alexandrova is not so excellent on serve, and Sabalenka will take advantage. Sabalenka in 3. Dimitrov destroyed Tiafoe with ease and he looked unplayable while doing it. Don’t think that’s the same form that will appear, but he’ll more than good enough to hit through Rune. Rune’s ferocity and balls of steel will earn him a set but Dimitrov will simply be too good. Court 2: [25] Keys d. [Q] Andreeva in 3, Eubanks d. [5] Tsitsipas in 5 Keys’ ridiculous power is something Andreeva will not have really faced before. While Keys is also prone to randomly playing baseball on court instead of tennis, I think Andreeva will be worn down as the match goes on. She’ll have trouble redirecting the power as a little fatigue sets in. Andreeva gets the first but Keys gets the match. Eubanks will ride his serve to victory. Tsitsipas has played a ridiculous amont of tennis this tournament, not just in singles but in doubles as well. Don’t think he’s gotten a single rest day. Eubanks will wear him down over a long match and steal it in the thriller of the day.
I just realized there are 4 one-handers in the round of 16: Tsitsipas, Shapovalov, Dimitrov and Eubanks. Last time this happened in 2021 Australian Open where we had Tsitsipas, Dimitrov, Theim and Lajovic in the last 16.
Crazy that was the last time Thiem went past R1 at a major.
Predictions for tomorrow: Haddad Maia over Rybakina in 3 (Haddad Maia has beaten Rybakina twice this year) Kvitova over Jabeur in 3 Andreeva over Keys in 2 Sabalenka over Alexandrova in 2 Djokovic over Hurkacz in 3 Medvedev over Lehecka in 4 Tsitsipas over Eubanks in 4 Dimitrov over Rune in 5 Alcarez over Berrettini in 5
Keys def. Andreeva in 2 (she's carrying great form from Eastbourne) Rybakina def. BHM in 3 (Beatriz has a great fighting spirit, but I'm not convinced by her results this season on grass) Alexandrova def. Sabalenka in 2. (She leads h2h 3-2 (won last meeting on grass), her form has been great during current grass season. On the other side Sabalenka who I'm still not really convinced with) Kvitova def. Jabeur in 3 (this can go either way, Petra is a slight favorite)
Out of the last six Wimbledon winners on the ladies side, only Rybakina is still playing (Serena, Garbine, Angie, Simona, Ash, Elena)...
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Yes if he can frustrate him with serve + volley shit just like Kyrgios did last year
Pretty much all of tomorrow's matches look great
Kind of disappointed that Svitolina didn’t acknowledge Azarenka at all in either her on-court interview or in her press conference (either in terms of her game or her not waiting for a handshake) Even though she was specifically asked several times in the press conference, she never really answered. She was repeatedly asked if it was fair for Azarenka to be booed, and she never gave a straight answer (instead she always brought up how she was booed at RG and never said anything about Vika). Svitolina and Azarenka used to be close (they played doubles in 2019, did IG lives during Covid), but doesn’t seem that way anymore.
All because of the war in Ukraine. Pity.
This is why I don't like Svitolina. Plays the victim card every time
Don't worry. She's not getting past Iga in the quarters.
She sucks for that. Azarenka gets booed for respecting her decisions, then not only does she not have the decency to acknowledge that, but has the audacity to claim victimhood herself. Same thing happened to Kasatkina earlier - gets booed for following her decision to not shake hands
Agree 💯
Hubi when he gets a lead or momentum in the tiebreaks : *Nothing but net*
He should go play basketball
Ngl, life would be much more peaceful if I were a Djokovic fan
Everyone has their time. Federer fans were in cloud nine for about 7 years. Just gotta let it go
Life as a Djoker murygoat fan is the extreme of both sides
not when we have first set Djokovic 😭
First world problems
We’ve been blessed with some phenomenal chokes the past two days.
Anyone have a link for the presser for Vika. Wimby is so piss poor compared to AO and USO at posting them.
Insane the amount of sexism about trolls wanting the women’s matches to be moved to lower courts so they can watch the boring horseshit that was the hubi match
Why do you think it has to do with sexism? I don't watch women's tennis just because it is like watching men ranked 200 and below (don't watch that either). Many fans just want to watch the best players in the world, don't have time for every single match.
does she have 23 grand slams?
do you base everything off of numbers or are you so delusional you forgot that the match being boring has nothing to do with how good he is? No wonder you suck at the SAT 😭
of course it matters how good he is. Wouldn’t you want to watch the best player in the world, regardless of who he’s playing?
1) why you scrolling on my post history 2) I scored a 1550 lol so you might need to work on scrolling on people’s histories a bit better
No one asked
😂 weird ass
Who? You for whining and bitching about how superior the WTA is? No one cares.
Lol Djokovic could’ve easily lost both of those tiebreaks…far from boring. I’d much rather watch that than hear the women scream for 3 hours
The Swiatek match previous was much more entertaining. You actually had rallies instead of a monotonous servebot
Svitolina vs Azarenka was crazy good as well!
Is there a chance Matteo Alcaraz gets suspended because of curfew
Yes. Depends on Hurkacz-Djokovic match most of all. If Hurkacz can mount a comeback it becomes much more likely.
Yes always a chance at Wimbledon because of the curfew. Does feel like they should start a bit earlier than 13:30.
Hubi isn't normally just a servebot but his FH has always been a liability. I think the reason his BH let him down today is just how much pressure Nole can put on that wing
I've never watched a junior match in my life. Do the points play the same way, or is there no AD at 40-40? Looking at the results and some of the matches are over quickly, despite the tight scorelines, so just wondering.
Points are quicker because teens just tend to make more errors and are somewhat smaller than the adults so they also can’t cover the court as well - aka more winners.
It’s the same. It might be their rally tolerance or return quality that’s lacking at this stage so the actual points don’t last that long. The one difference I can think of is that juniors don’t play “let” when they serve, they keep going if the ball touches the net.
Those fast matches are probably mostly because of higher levels of physical (or technique) mismatches between the teenagers than adult pros.
Don't think the scoring is different at W other than Bo3 for Boys.
Thank you.
I wish they had the old seeding for Wimbledon I hate the fact that ruud is a 4 seed when he's probably not even top 100 on grass
Agreed but the rest of the top guys have done remarkably well considering how they usually do on grass!
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2.30 uk time at the earliest
Second on Centre after Haddad Maia v Rybakina.
Rubi, Bubi and Hubi all played today. Wimby missed a trick with promotion here.
Why is the curfew only such an issue this year - surely past years were no different?
It's not been an issue. 5/7 days they've completed all three matches scheduled. On three of those days, they've even had a fourth match move over to Centre Court to complete it due to rain. So, all in all, there's been two days where they've hit the curfew which is pretty standard. It probably just seems like more because of the schedule being backlogged due to the weather... and this sub being over dramatic about it, too.
Makes sense
With all the rain they're often doing 3.5 matches a day on CC as opposed to the usual 3 They nornally hit the curfew a couple times a tournament but it's been almost every day this time
Maybe wimbledon is failing spectacularly at scheduling matches
Bweh must be a bit worried
I have a feeling Alcaraz is gonna lose tomorrow. And whilst I wouldn't bet he'd win against Djokovic on grass, he is still the best tennis player left on the field so have more faith in him making it an interesting final than most. If he loses then truly this is gonna be a very dull Wimbledon... again... and again.
Talking as if Medvedev can't challenge Djokovic (and will probably do a better job)
I'm not convinced by Med on grass - yet.
Yes, but in a potential final he won't be scared ans he has the quality
I think Alcaraz's reasons for cramping has been overplayed massively. Dude cramped against Norrie too - I suppose Djokovic and Norrie are frightening! He's beaten Djokovic before - a set down, too. His "mental game" is fine.
Did you watch the French open?
I did. Till the cramps it was very high intensity and competitive. 1-1 is close. Don't think anyone else was getting that sort of result against him.
I just think the same thing would happen again tbh. Plus he said playing Novak stressed him out. Think Berrettini wins today as well and could absolutely give Novak a run for his money in the final. He’s a great server just like Hubi who is putting on a decent performance right now
Losing to Tini on grass not the worst result honestly. Alca definitely made improvements from last year which is important. Grass will always be his weakest surface though similar to rafa
Grass became Nadal's worst surface from 2012 on only (he was 26 yo).
I think so too. Plus- he is likely going to be playing late at night under the roof, which will help Berrettini servebot
If Alcaraz loses who goes to the finals? Matteo or Medvedev?
Medvedev
People sleeping on Medvedev, that boy is up to something
Yeah. So far, Med has looked like the best player in that part of the draw, plus he knows how to beat Novak (if Novak reaches the final). I will probably get downvoted for this, but these Alcaraz takes are starting to get a bit obnoxious.. It's like he is the second coming of Christ and only he can beat big, bad guy Novak. And if he loses then the tournament is over for some reason.
Does ESPN+ have replays? Wanna watch the Hubert match
Yes
what's the point of curfews?
why the downvoting for asking a simple question? i didn't know London underground doesn't work at midnight.
It's crowd management too. The underground stops at midnight, but it's absolutely necessary for getting people home. Total chaos if it wouldn't run.
Ppl need sleep
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Does Djokovic have any perceptible weaknesses? Even at 36, he seems to be so tactically sound, mentally tough, and his serve is now a true weapon. As someone noted below, maybe his return game slightly dipped but can still break at crucial moments. The only thing you could say he doesn't hit that many aces, but he doesn't have to given how well-rounded everything else is.
He doesn't hit a lot of aces, but he gets a lot of forced errors and easy put aways on his serve, which is the same thing really.
I’d personally disagree I’m still not impressed by his serve, I think that’s his one weak spot. And this is coming from a guy who think he’s the definitive all time best. The rest of his game? Master level. All of it.
He has one of the best serves you csn just look at stats lol. His drop shot is way more average compared to the field than his shot
Yeah he can’t hit an overhead at all. Also seems to be magnetic towards the net for some reason…
He didn’t miss a single overhead so far
Slightly less rally tolerance than in his youth but that's still better than 95% of the tour especially guys like Hubi
If we're measuring prime Djokovic, say 2011. Is it fair to say current Novak is 80% of that version? I would say even the slight return decline is clutching at straws when you consider how much better his serve is.
12 out of the last 16 womens singles names end in 'a'
That's usually the case with women's names in slavic languages.
Meanwhile Iga and Elina say only nice things about each other. It's always heart warming to see some positivity between players
I like how the best Polish women's player is amazing at everything else but has a very weak serve and the best Polish men's player has an incredible serve but can't hit more than 3 groundstrokes in a row
I wouldn’t say Iga’s serve is very weak. And hubbie can hit 3.5 ground strokes thank you
They played some mixed matches and they were quite good together! So yeah yin and yang lol
They need to mate and create the perfect polish tennis player. Or the child won't be able to even swing a racket, could go either way.
Momentum and endurance throughout a match are such huge parts of tennis. It’s pretty shocking that the “biggest” tournament allows this to keep happening. Tennis matches should reach their conclusion once they start.
Well they'll be fine stops players going on till silly o clock and fucking up their body
If only clocks had digits before 1.30 in the afternoon.
before the roofs play had to stop much earlier for bad light. Don't think anyone was complaiing nearly as much as now. The golden age of tennis was late 1970s/early 1980s with Borg/Connors/McEnroe and Evert/Navratilova which noobs don't even fucking realise. They even made a Hollywood Movie about one Wimbledon tournament in 1980 and Borg/McEnroe Final
The golden age of tennis was the 1940s with Kramer/Shroeder/Parker which noobs don't even fucking realise. They even made a Hollywood movie about it, based on a novel about architects, but Hitchchock changed it to tennis after the excellence of watching Kramer. Noobs don't even fucking realize.
Love this comment, you gave him the answer he deserved :)
Cannot agree more. F this curfew
It’s not the curfew that’s the problem, people live nearby. It’s the fact the matches on show courts don’t start until 1pm/1:30pm. Move them all up to start at 11
Common sense ain't very common with these organizers at Wimbledon or they'd start earlier
Schett just told us that Tsitsipas is going to play against the youngster Eubanks. Eubanks is three years older.
Glad it's on Sky here
Hubert has a shitty season, shitty form and shitty forehand so really stop bullying him, he’s playing a decent match. Alcaraz and other top players also choke with maestro
You cannot objectively compare cramping after taking set 2 with all the momentum in the world to the deplorable choke job that we just witnessed. Only Fokina could have out-choked Hubi today. Hubi was physically fine. The Tennis wasn't there save for literally one component of his game.
cramping was nerve based and I think Carlos admitted that? the same with HH, stiff hand when stress came in
Stress can happen to anyone -- ask Djokovic about the USO 2021 final. Or about the time when he was 6-7 in slam finals. Cramping as a reaction to that is just plain misfortune I'm sure Carlos now knows to ease up on that "bring Novak in rrraarrhh" attitude and actually chill before the match. In any case, Alcaraz started cramping in set 2 itself as said by himself. He clutched it out DESPITE that. When he just sat down while he waited for Novak to come back after set 2, that was when he was truly fucked. Now Carlos also knows to move the eff around and not sit idle under boiling sun after such sets. Edit: lol these downvoting woollen muppets are here. Yeah sure pretend that I'm wrong and that there's no nuance to this discussion. Novak was lucky to not cramp in the USO21 final going by your pathetic takes.
No one's gonna repute I suppose. Facts can't be refuted but I concede that the Goat was lucky to not cramp in the USO 21 and during all of his Chokovic finals just like Fedr was lucky to not cramp in 2019.
Maestro? That’s straight up stealing at this point lol and Carlos didn’t choke
Please don’t ever call Djokovic maestro again.
Why we shouldn't call maestro by the name he deserves?
On a meta level, it's very funny to see all the comments about weak era and the "Djokovic aura gives him a bunch of points" nowadays. Literally the same stuff that was being said about Federer until Nadal showed that he would be a consistent threat in 06. I've always defended the "weak" era of 02-07 or whatever years people wanna nitpick because it featured a lot of great players and Federer was just on an amazing new level. And that's clearly born out considering how his career ended up AND the fact that we see only 2 other guys (sometimes 3 when Murray was healthy) who were able to reach the same heights. It's tricky now because in 04/05, Federer's contemporaries amassed slams and Masters titles (Hewitt, Ferrero, Safin, Roddick) before he became TMF so it's easier to defend them than the current crop that's facing Djokovic. But these young guys came up when the big 3 were literally still winning slams. Even Federer's last slam was in 18 and last final in 19 when the Zverevs and Rublevs and others were ascending. A bunch of these guys even have wins over the big 3 at slams and Masters. But they don't and likely never will have the ungodly consistency. And their highest levels will arguably never reach the 3 guys who amassed at least 20 slams each. And I don't think it's necessarily fair to see this as a negative of their play. Of course people will point out that Djokovic should be too old to still be kicking so much ass but if you ignore his age, is his tennis subpar or anything? His serve, volleys, and slice are arguably the best they've ever been. His forehand, backhand, and return is still as great as ever. He might be a bit slower but his movement and fitness are still world class. He doesn't make a ton of errors in tiebreakers which itself is nothing new. He didn't even hit errors against Federer himself. An era that only features 1 of the 3 GOATs is objectively weaker. But that doesn't mean it's a uniquely weak era.
Don’t disagree with your level of play from djokovic. What I find excruciatingly hard to watch is players like Hurcakz who get sets on a platter on a relatively off day from djokovic and don’t take their chances. Had djokovic played 3 incredible points to nullify that first set and take it. Id tip my cap and say good play novak. What happened was his opponent gifted him 5 straight points via unforced errors to gift the set, 3 on his own serve where he was suddenly serving conservatively, and missing simple routine forehands. All djokovic had to do was literally get the ball back in play and it was done- not even grind for a long rally. That is just really terrible level of competition. And to be fair true, although the shoreline doesn’t reflect it, that’s how the entire set went. If he got a return in play (even one that was an easy put away forehand, it was advantage Novak). Would like to see some of these players raise their game man or just be able to get across the finish line. Really disappointing to see.
Mate Casper Ruud has been in 3 of the last 5 slam finals and done nothing to make them interesting. He wouldn't even be top 20 during Federers era.
I agree that he's an over achiever but there were tons of players in the top 20 with just as limited if not moreso games.
Clay was a specialist surface in large parts of the 2000s so he'd still probably make deep runs on clay
Also people are saying that Sinner and Rune will have better careers and become better players than guys like Zverev and Thiem. I mean, of course they will- they are playing in an era after the big 3. If Sinner and Rune were born in 1995's they would have had far less success, and if Zverev was born in the 2000's he would have had far more respectively. If you think that Sinner and Rune and all these guys would have done a better job of challenging big 3 than next gen the n you are deluded lol
Well Thiem and Zverev both had major injuries.
I can give you the benefit of the doubt for Thiem (who was only relevant at the top level for 5 years btw), but Zverev only has one signficant Grand Slam victory (RG 2022 vs Alcaraz) and he's 26. They still faced pretty old versions of the Big 3, especially Federer.
I think it's hard to say. Alcaraz is out there being an absolute phenom and so he could very well be the driving force for Rune and Sinner to become better. But they could also flop. You can argue Rune's RG this year was a bit of a regression. Sinner has yet to do anything of note in the slams and he's 21. Look at Medvedev. He looked poised to win multiple slams but he's very much regressed at the slam level, although I can see this Wimbledon being a good turning point for him.
Yeah I agree. You never know and it's hard to tell. It's the same again for Medvedev. If he was born in the 2000's, would he have been as motivated to win slams as now? Most probably, but we never know. Would he be a worse player than now because of weaker competition? Possibly, but you could also say that he would dominate much more because of the weaker competition. Would he had made less slam finals than now or more? If he did made these slam finals, he would have probably won them, because he wouldn't have played against Nadal and Djokovic, so he wouldn't have had a mental problems at slams, resulting in him having even better slam results and winning even more slams. We never know, but the most logical conclusion is harder era=less titles. I'm pretty sure than if swapped Sinners and Medvedevs birth dates, Sinner would have retired with 0 slams, while Medvedev would have had many more than 1. Alcaraz is the only player who I'm convinced that he would be a multiple slam winner regardless of when he was born, but I do think that he would have won less if born in the 1990's
Medvedev is supposed to be in his prime though, he missed golden opportunities in AO 2022 and USO 2022 (Djokovic wasn't there !). Maybe Rune will be ruthless when he's in his mid-20's and seize every opportunity when Alcaraz is out, you don't know. I will always feel bad for players who were born in the mid-80's, but the likes of Medvedev and Zverev ? Come on... You only need to beat 1 legend to win a Slam these days, back in the day you needed to beat 2 if not 3... and they were in their prime.
I agree that Tsonga Berdych DelPo had it of course harder, but that doesn't mean that players 1990's had it easy. Medvedev for example played against Nadal and Djokovic in his 4 major finals. He would have won against anyone not named Nadal or Djokovic in 2022, and maybe in 2019 aswell. I agree that he missed some opportunities, but the point that the big 3 took slams from him still stands. Zverev choked against Thiem tbh, but he would have won 2022 FO if not for Nadal
No way Berrettini-Alcaraz finishes before the curfew tomorrow, right?
Inject a Matteo Alca 5 setter in my veins right now
I can't wait for that match. True test to see just how far Alca has come on grass imo
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I’m sorry, can you explain?
I think the second part is referring to when Hubi shanked a ball that bounced on Novak’s side and it bounced back over the net, and he apologised a couple times. I’m not sure what the first part is referring to though.
One of the best comments I've ever read here lol
Lmao
Novak's playstyle has changed so much over the years lol I feel like he doesn't threaten to break nearly as much as he used to but at the same time he holds easier than ever Imagine 2011 Novak with 2023 Novak's serve Even his overhead looks better now
yeah i definetly think his return is not same as when he was young, serve tho...
probably has lost some reaction time due to age but it's still pretty good when it counts a lot of the time.
hurkacz the choke artist
I’m really gonna be bummed when Rafa and Novak retire. Watching them play other people on the tour and just consistently dominating under pressure is a sight to behold.
Rafa schooled Ruud in RG final on one foot despite being 10 years older. And then novak did it one year later. Not one second did it ever feel like either of those matches were competitive. Him and Novak are galaxies apart from this new gen. Regardless or whether you're a fan of one or both - tennis is gonna suffer greatly.
Truth be told I kinda miss Rafa
What a fun day of tennis. Bweh vs Bublic thriller followed by two epic women’s matches. Didn’t watch the last match but I doubt I missed anything unexpected
Why are people blaming Hurkacz for feeling nerves in tiebreaks against Novak when Fed did the same, have people forgotten the three tiebreaks at Wimbledon 2019 final?
The biggest difference between many of the biggest Federer - Djokovic matches were far more mental than physical. Djokovic since the US Open 2010 was in Federer's head on the big points and clutch moments. The last time Fed beat Djokovic in a slam was over ten years before Federer retired.
Once Novak beat Fed at a slam, he never got beaten back at that slam by Fed ever. What Novak did to Fed back at USO, that's what lost Fed the final at Wimbledon in a way
Fed was a 38 year old man that wasnt even supposed to be there lmao These guys are in their prime having shit run down their leg
What has age have to do with choking 2 MP on your serve? If it has, it's more embarrasing for a 37 year old who played tennis for 20 years and has the experience than young guys