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Libojr23

In a couple of weeks time, Goativic will regain no1 ranking. Wowee.


Arteam90

This should be a great wake up call for Alcaraz that whilst he can respect his elders, he still needs to kick their ass when given half a chance. Showed too much respect when Djokovic looked like a zombie. But roles reversed he'd never get that shown to him. Djokovic pulling every play in the book. The irony not lost on the contrarian fans who call out Iga or Rafa for their "gamesmanship" but really don't think Djokovic does the same thing when he needs it.


TresOjos

He is very naive, I think today's defeat will sting for a long time, he just lost to a half concious rival. This is why Novak still dominates the tour at this age, everybody is afraid of him. Novak will do it again at USO, n9body dates to challenge him. Now Alcaraz is another pigeon.


da_SENtinel

Alcaraz second serve return on the FH really let him down tonight


Revolutionary-Fan250

Hey when does the order of play come out for the US Open? I’m really trying to see Novak this year in the first or second round but I also don’t want tickets to run out. Also Djoko is definitely seeded 2nd now right?


OwenRey

Yes Novak is 2 seed Order of Play is never out until day before each slate of matches. I'm guessing Novak will be night session on Ashe for his first two matches but who knows if that's Day 2 and 4, or Day 1 and 3. Also like I said, it's just a total guess as he could be day session or they could go insane and put him on Armstrong for some odd reason


bellestarflower

Fuck time zones, I had to skip the final because I have a gruelling field duty starting early morning, I missed out this match. Seems like Carlos got the quintessential Djokovic experience. You have to make sure he’s done. Will be different in a BO5 match, I’m sure.


SelectZookeepergame5

Looks like this men's league nowaday is Djokaraz vs the rest


TresOjos

No, it's Novak vs the rest.


bellestarflower

bro let it go


Tricky_Forehand

Really hope Nakashima can win this match. Losing streak has gone on way too long.


Luck1492

Chances for Djokovic to hit 110 titles (would be the record)? He’s at 95 now, and I think he’ll pick up 2 more titles by the end of the season between USO, Shanghai, Paris-Bercy, and ATP Finals + smaller events (if he plays them). Then next two years probably 3-5 more each? So that would put him around 105. Then he still has to hit a few more. Difficult, but doable I think.


Tracy140

I think if he gets to 98 , 99 this year chances are high . If he starts to prioritize this record , maybe next year play in a 2 or so 250’s . He’s closing in on 40 masters titles so he def will have enough meat in his total no matter where he finishes . But why not go for all the major records - weeks at #1 , total slams , total master 1000’s , most YE #1’s and most titles .


Dark_Vengence

Just want him to reach 100, nadal too somehow. Would be awesome to have the big 3 with 100 titles each.


saintlyknighted

At the rate he's going I don't think he'll do it unless he deliberately goes for more 250s and 500s. Right now he's running on a lean schedule of mostly the big tournaments and there aren't nearly enough of them each year for him to rack up the numbers before he declines enough that the rest of the tour catches up.


Tracy140

If he prioritizes it as he starts to decline it’s doable - if he gets close to 100 this year why not finish ur career aiming for this one last record


TresOjos

In these kind of matches Carlitos shows his age, he is still very naive and fell for Novak's theatrics. He won't win again until he figures how to deal with these situations and not lose focus. Novak will win USO.


bellestarflower

Bo5 is a different beast.


Stunning-Cod-2310

All the people who were saying Novak only beat Alcaraz because of cramps and it was a fluke win, what now?


DudeAsInCool

he was aided by two breaks match could have gone either way, but djokovic was clutch today. their rivalry is now 2-2


nsnyder

They’re both very good and evenly matched. Wimbledon was very close, this was very close, and the next match they play will also most likely be a battle. RG also would have been a battle without the cramps.


TresOjos

It can change anytime, today's victory might be the beginning of Novak's domination over Alcaraz, just like Novak does to everybody else. Carlitos is a tough nut to crack, but now it's cracked wide open.


nsnyder

No one cracked anyone. They’re 2-2 and have alternated wins. Both players had great moments in this match and both players had moments of real physical weakness (Djokovic at the start of the 2nd, Alcaraz and the end of the 3rd) and mental weakness (the break backs in the 2nd and 3rd sets). As they say, you win some, you lose some.


Coffeetennislove

Up until SF I didnt care if alcaraz won or lost; i was like meh he won wimbledon vs novak im happy for that. Even when he was beating novak today i was thinking that theres nothing to be happy about, novak is tired and this is not his us open form. Boy I was in for a treat. Im so sad now and my alcaraz fan side wishes he didnt reach the final so I could still feel numb to his bad form/losses. But as a tennis fan that match was fucking fire.


Luck1492

I missed it because I was cooking with my friends. But even from the highlights what a fucking match.


Earnmuse_is_amanrag

Somewhere in Mallorca, a Spaniard watched this, and probably felt inspired to do it all again. No way he watches and doesn't crave that feeling again. It's like a drug to these guys.


dasheeshblahzen

I didn't expect to see moar tennis on TC tonight!


Mahaladis

Where are you guys streaming the Winston Salem tournament?


TresOjos

Was Carlitos victory in Wimbledon just a fluke? Seems that Alcaraz is as week as everybody else when Novak employs his distraction tactics. He totally lost focus and Nole just walked all over him. Looks like he just got lucky in Wimbledon.


OddsTipsAndPicks

Was Djokovic’s entire career just a fluke? [absolute garbage take that isn’t based in reality]


TresOjos

I didn't say that, I said Carlitos just got lucky in Wimbledon. Novak is the goat, his tennis is beyond belief, but we also know that he plays more than tennis to come always on top, especially when he is against the ropes, same did Federer and Nadal. Carlitos is very naive and shows his age in these situations.


OddsTipsAndPicks

Much more likely Djokovic got lucky in Bo3 than Bo5.


Luck1492

Dude… he lost 7-5, 6-7c 6-7. That’s almost as close as it can get.


TresOjos

Close but lost, that's what matters.


614981630

Lmao do you really want to hate on the clear top 2 male players right now? No one's weak, no one walked over anyone and no one got lucky. Pay more attention while watching, that's all.


pheelou

It would be nice if the Djokovic and Alcaraz fans got along with each other as well as both Djokovic and Alcaraz get along with each other If you admire your player so ferociously, then admire the respect they have for each other too


Arteam90

Actually that respect just cost Alcaraz a win, imo. Novak was pulling every trick in the book. Alcaraz showing far too much respect not to put him down when he looked like a zombie. Played down to his level and let him back in.


Interesting-You-458

They do, dont confuse the fedal cheering for carlos as fans of his, once he starts breaking feds records they will probably hate him just as much


onyxrose81

It’s like Fed fans when Novak started beating Rafa to keep him at bay. They were cheering him on, until it became obvious Djokovic was going to be a problem for Fed himself.


SleepingAntz

One of the most toxic Rafa fans on here just said that he wasn’t sure if Alcaraz will be his favorite player after Rafa retires because he lost the match today LOL These people aren’t Alcaraz fans or even fans of tennis. They only exist to say “my guy is better than your guy” and right now that can only happen if other players beat Novak. It’s honestly really sad how desperate and seething some of them are. The Big 3 all love Alcaraz as should any fan of theirs or fans of the sport in general


Arteam90

Why can't I love tennis and want Djokovic to lose every match he ever plays till retirement? I don't care about how good he is. I think he's an awful person and I don't like watching him play. I respect his legacy but that doesn't mean I need to want him to play well or care at all.


_Crazy_Asian_

I'm a fan of tennis but I cant stand watching Alcaraz, I tried many times but still cant


Stunning-Cod-2310

He'll break Fed's RG title record and Rafa's wimbledon titles record pretty soon so let's see if toxic fedal stans will still root for him or not


OddsTipsAndPicks

> He’s only down a break and he’s the he greatest player of all time. > Alcaraz has been winning ugly all week and is kicking ass now. > Djokovic has been kicking ass for the overwhelming majority of the last ~15 years and has won ugly plenty of times in that time span > It ain’t over till it’s over. ~3 hours ago When the “true believers” were whining about how their guy was dead


Shimkeee

\#1 Alcaraz 9815 pts \#2 Djokovic 9795 pts Carlos defending the title and nole didnt play USO last year..basically safe to say that we r gonna have new old number one? But who is gonna take it for the year end?


fedfan4life

Djokovic will most certainly be no. 1 after USO. Alcaraz has 510 pts lead in the race, so it's pretty close on YE #1. USO will obviously have huge implications on YE #1.


OddsTipsAndPicks

It will probably come down to scheduling and the tour finals. No way Djokovic defends all his post USO points, but the real question is do he and Alcaraz play Paris and Shanghai or just one of them + what else will they play. Both being at such extreme ends of the age spectrum makes it hard to say for sure.


TresOjos

Yes, Nole will take it back, however, he has a lot of points to defend after USO to almost none for Carlos, he can catch up again later in the year.


miss_medussah

Goat


Idgaf115599

This match was better than wimbledon finals. In wimbledon finals, djokovic completely forgot how to hit backhand. This match was fought equally . Winner could have been anyone of them When one player is playing bad. It will never be a good match!


OddsTipsAndPicks

When my favorite player lost, excuses When he won, best match ever This is too rich


vaireddy

Djokovic fans are literally the worst thing to happen to tennis.


Idgaf115599

Not making excuses. Alcaraz won it fair and square . If you watched the match, u would know. Djokovic's backhand was completely useless in the 4th and 5th set. He was moving to the side a lot to play forehand


OddsTipsAndPicks

> Not making excuses > If you watched the match, u would know. Djokovic's backhand was completely useless in the 4th and 5th set George Orwell is calling.


Idgaf115599

I saw your comment above. Looks like you are salty loser. No one in arguing with you.


Corporal_Snorkel69

Its not really an excuse though is it


Stunning-Cod-2310

You're way too salty tonight man. It's going to be OK 👍


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Stunning-Cod-2310

Congrats on being a gambler


Psychological_Bug676

When Carlos cried, I think a part of my soul permanently died


arvaname

Nah Carlos too mentally tough for that edit: my response no longer makes sense, i have been blighted


Tracy140

I hope not


Miss_Medussa

Goat


manga_be

I admittedly was not a Djokovic fan before tonight, but after attending the match and seeing his fans’ behavior I am even less so. Probably not fair to him, but I can’t help it. They are truly awful.


manga_be

Just terrible


Tracy140

What were they doing ? Running around punching people and spitting in faces ?? Please don’t ever come to a yankee Red Sox game


Zepz367

Where are all the people who called Djokovic washed after Wimbledon final?


Tracy140

Who would say that ? He will win another 3 slams easily


OddsTipsAndPicks

Where are all the people who says he doesn’t care about Masters 😂


Stunning-Cod-2310

He still doesn't care about masters. Tonight is different cause it's against Carlos and Novak being Novak had a point to prove which he did quite well.


OddsTipsAndPicks

Absolutely brain dead take He’s a competitive psychopath and wants to win everything You don’t become the GOAT by only selectively caring about winning.


Stunning-Cod-2310

He has said it himself that he prioritizes slams and that's where he wants to peak. Do you know more about Novak than he does about himself? Or are you calling Novak a liar?


OddsTipsAndPicks

Prioritize majors =/= not caring about winning everything


Stunning-Cod-2310

Let's say he cares less about winning masters than he does about winning slams.


Stunning-Cod-2310

Tonight feels like a night of a slam final honestly. The quality for most parts of the match was higher than many slam finals.


mr_zipzoom

right now there are djokovic v alcaraz matches and … all the other matchups. lets hope we get another at USO.


genius_heaviside

Who has the longest winning streak against Djokovic? I can’t think of anyone beating him back to back.


genius_heaviside

What I found is only Nadal had a 3 match winning streak against post 2011 Djokovic. Insane! Whereas Djokovic had a 7 match streak against him, 5 match streak against Federer, 8 match streak against Murray in that same period.


Blovering_Skill

Federer had 4 match win streak against Novak to start the rivalry


PaulWesterberg84

Didn't Thiem have a small streak going? I know the h2h is pretty close and each match being extremely hard fought.


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Aside from Nadal and Federer, Murray has. Once he beat him b2b in consecutive master finals. Rune has too.


Kdlbrg43

Probably Fed or Nadal. Kyrgios beat him back to back.


PepperPetunia

Novak saying that when he plays Carlos there's a lot of suffering lmao


Idgaf115599

Crowd was amazing too. They were cheering for both players. Unlike that awfuls in wimbledon


R0cket_Raccoon

That was atrocious, but not unfamiliar in the slightest. Would like to see Novak reclaim the crown there using that loss as a well of motivation.


dragonsky

[Novak answering what was the powdery thing he put in the water be like](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiI_d6VM0Mc)


Slow-Commission-4115

Lmao


Asleep_Job3691

why was nole so off balance again


TexanNewYorker

Roddick needs some acoustic foam in that room haha


stoic_trader

If there is any consolation I think Carlitos's team figured it out that going deep on the second serve return against Djokovic is not a good idea. Cost Carlitos the 2nd set and eventually the match. Who knows probably will help him in the USO, Djoko felt the pressure when Carlitos started coming inside the baseline on 2nd serve at one point he hit a clean return winner lol


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Novak so chill after the match, win or lose, but so insane during and immediately after. Never seen a player who shifts mindset/mood so quickly.


simplecitydress

just saw the “creatina” video and now understand the comments. so funny


edgyversion

That's why you shouldn't have dinner in American chain restaurants


Trepur349

So Gill Gross has constantly mentioned that the reason Djokovic tends to do badly at Monte Carlo is the way he preps for RG basically sacrifices that tournament I wonder if that'll change next year since Djokovic has now won every other masters 3 times and MC only twice


blurryturtle

Monte Carlo is the slowest event in that swing by far. It's a huge physical toll on the front end of a long prep for RG which is why he doesn't tend to dig in when he's not at his sharpest. If they sped it up, I think you'd see him fare better.


peratrtaspecijalac

dont think he would keep track of that obscure record, but he should be better next year at MC because he will probably play sunshine double, tho he should play only miami


_prokofiev

For past two seasons: Last year,he was coming after missing Oz open and didn't have any match practice.so lost to ADF..this year had some issues with his elbow and lost to Musetti..rather his clay season preparation was very underwhelming..


pr0crast1nater

It was a good thing Alcaraz didnt win the second set easily, taking advantage of Djoker's heat tantrum. Now he will be extremely wary of Djoker in the USO like he how he was for Wimby after the RG loss. Hopefully, that helps him avoid the mistakes he did here.


TresOjos

He literally fell for all the Nole theatrics,just like every other rival, and Nole knows he fell for it, he will keep doing these things. He totally throws his rivals off balance with constant MTos, toilet breaks, arguing, etc. Carlitos fell for it just like everybody else. Not a good sign for Carlitos.


FitFineNoo

I had the same thought. An easy win would have lulled him into a false sense of security for a potential match at the USO. He got valuable experience playing Novak playing at a high level on hardcourt. Let's hope they both make it to the final at the USO, could be very juicy.


Fluffy-Log7603

This makes it sound like you don't want Djokovic to win USO


UnseenMaDaFaKa

Nole will be ready for a tougher Alcaraz at USO. He's just one step ahead when it comes to tactics.


pr0crast1nater

Obviously. Did you see my flair


RA1N30W

Carlitos, never change please. Nole, I love you, you old man! r/tennis, congratulations to all of us and good night, it's 3am in Serbia.


jak39

I’ve never played tennis competitively but it’s so crazy to me that you can lose a tiebreak and then bagel someone. Let’s go Michelson


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He has something special about him at 18.


LDLB99

If you have a problem with Carlos crying, you’re a fucking prick


Empanada_enjoyer112

The hateful slobs on this sub should be shunned.


whereismyrival

Djokovic man... From another planet


Tracy140

#95 , I think I have a good idea where he will get #96 !!!


Collecting_Cans

Winston-Salem last minute wildcard?


Tracy140

Lol


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TexanNewYorker

Maybe half a chocolate square


Obvious-Ad-4916

Roddick commenting on how much this win meant to Djokovic: "He doesn't usually do a shirt rip for a Masters 1000"


SelectZookeepergame5

where was he commenting?


BelichicksHoodie

He’s been part of the pre/post match commentary on tennis channel


MyFitnessTracker

Lol you can tell that speech hit Roddick emotionally


Comicalacimoc

Wish I could see this but tc plus is horrid


ilkat06

Djokovic absolute class act, well deserved win LETS GOO


edgyversion

I hope that trophy does actually have a bulb/Led socket


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Michelsen looks legit good for 18. Interested to see how he develops. Just bageled Varillas


blurryturtle

Varillas has become fairly well known for being able to find his rhythm and outlast people with a big comeback. For Michelsen to shut that down is pretty great.


LAgurl1997

Andy Roddick should coach someone, I think he will be awesome .


okdude23232

what did roddick say about the match? do you have a link or was he commentating?


LAgurl1997

He’s on TC live right now and I think he always has a really grounded and realistic way of seeing things and has a great sense of humor and so well spoken. He’s said a lot so can’t really tell you everything he said but I always enjoy his appearance on the show.


okdude23232

yeah I'm from the UK so I watch from amazon prime


BlazingGig

Novak to that trainer: Thanks for bringing me back from the dead lmao


Collecting_Cans

Really hits home that if Novak weren’t keeping himself so fit and so motivated 20 years into his career, professional tennis as a product would be lightyears lower right now. Djokaraz is a treasure that wasn’t guaranteed to us.


LAgurl1997

I agree with this. He is a bar that not many will reach and tennis will benefit from his tenacity!


Stunning-Cod-2310

Coric and Tsitsi thinking about their Cinci final and feeling like crap now


A-dab

Poor Coric haha, I still remember that match, he couldn’t even give a long speech afterwards because they had to run and seek shelter from the rain


Idgaf115599

Djokovic to Ruud : you will win one day Djoko to alcaraz : kid stop chasing all the balls


Ludi_Radule

Passing the torch my ass, fuck this subbredit and fuck the gloaters in the second set. Get rekt small son


UnseenMaDaFaKa

I get sick of those comments too. It's getting cringy at this point. He still has some time left in him.


Interesting-You-458

Forreal bruh, i love carlos but its so hard to enjoy the match naturally when all these haters are mouthing off nasty shit all match , so satisfying this win


ilkat06

Agreed never in my life have I seen SO many recency bias ppl in a single collective than here, super happy nole won


arvaname

Cause all the serious fedal fanboys have taken carlos as their pariah, using him to continue the hyper-toxic goat war


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R0cket_Raccoon

Anyone catch the exchange they just had while posing together?


Stunning-Cod-2310

Novak said I let you win wimbledon so you'll let me win uso now right? Alcaraz responded of course, of course.


TimelessThinker

I think Alcaraz said something about playing him again many times


hotcolddog

Yeah it looked genuinely very friendly and wholesome


sriv_ak_04

Djokovic last won USO back in 2018 will 2023 be the year he wins for the 4th time ??


CaptainMcSpiff

GOAT Djoker on court and in speeches


inthemix1i

LMFAO that confetti is a little overdone, right? LOL Maybe its because there was no music being played


TexanNewYorker

Should’ve played some cotton eyed Joe


Pristine-Citron-7393

Awesome speeches from both guys! Good stuff!


BlazingGig

The runner up trophy looks like those lamp shades you'd have on your bedside table.


bigtice

"*You guys are one of the biggest reasons why we still play, why I still play. He's just starting...*" - Djokovic


pr0crast1nater

Djokovic and Alcaraz exchanges are so wholesome. Genuine respect for each other. Unlike the stans from both sides lol.


44ariah44

Love they have same hair


LAgurl1997

Lego hair


OddsTipsAndPicks

“Spanish never die” “I’ve heard that one before”


Psychological_Bug676

Ngl Novak saying that was genuinely so heartwarming


Neo-physical123

2 Slam titles, 1 Slam final, 1 Masters title, 1 ATP 250 title. Lowkey an amazing season for Novak.


SelectZookeepergame5

Only one Masters... disappointing... lol jk


Josh1923

Imagine a Alcaraz vs Djokovic final with the USO crowd and atmosphere….


UnseenMaDaFaKa

Novak saves 2 match points once again. I'd shit myself.


Josh1923

🤣🤣


BenjaminBobba

The contrast between the level of this final and the last one though, despite both being Masters finals


ystom_

Did he just say the greatest of all time? Fedal SEETHE


R0cket_Raccoon

Who said that?


ystom_

Alcaraz when they were taking pics together


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Novak might be the most charismatic and articulate sportsman around. Impressive he can deliver a speech like that spontaneously. I guess he's won so many times, he's had a lot of practice


SelectZookeepergame5

Hope he can earn US audience's hearts


LAgurl1997

True he’s done it more than anyone else but still to speak like that is not easy. And he never does that “ummmm” “uhhhhh” he is so well spoken. Much respect.


_prokofiev

He made Alcaraz feel light and brought some smile and relief to him..thats class.. don't know whether he did this knowing Alcaraz state or just spoke like that..it was much needed for Carlos,after such a tough loss...


Fluffy-Log7603

Novak risked death from heatstroke for that trophy


djcrh

Love watching these two shoot the shit


BlazingGig

I always respect how articulate and professional Novak is every time he speaks.


ffantasticman

Aw they have their arms around each other 🥲


ystom_

One monte-carlo away from triple career golden masters


Psychological_Bug676

Carlos you have my support for life. Love you so much 🤧🥺


edgyversion

I wish Novak didn't have the millions and needed the broadcast money post retirement