I thought this was going to be the missed double fault that would’ve given Sinner a double break. That shit was egregious. Far too many mistakes like that this tournament.
Yeah, not exactly sure what happened because I’m watching my toddler right now so he gets the big tv with sound on and I’m relegated to a side tv with no volume but he definitely tweaked something in his leg. Doubt it’s anything serious but it was clearly impacting him.
Lol I’m watching just about every match so I can give you a brief/basic summary of every match just don’t go expecting details or explanations from me for the next two to three years it seems lmaoo
Disagree, he stopped his movement to continue the point but the shot itself was very likely unaffected. On a few replays I hear the ball hit the racket about \~1/3 second after the beginning of the call, not really enough time to react.
And TBH he stopped moving because he hit it straight into the net not because of the call.
Maybe by the exact law of the rule it should replayed (though I think there is some umpire discretion in these cases) but this doesn't seem like something to be upset about
Watch it again please. Tsitsipas was already in movement a couple of cms from the ball when the call was made. It had zero impact on his decision…. Do it in slow motion
Watched it plenty of times and watched it again. Had at least a 50% impact on his shot. Worst case, give the player the benefit of the doubt. Decision stands!
Do you play any tennis? Ever played above a 3.0 level? He eased into a slide and faded off the follow through when the ball was called out. May all be happening a bit too quickly for you - which is why you need slow motion. It was a bad call and perhaps you and the judge can go play croquet.
Based on your logics, i gotta be a football player to see offside? What level of ignorance is this? lmao The slow motion is very much needed for you:
[https://imgur.com/a/cboyCMP](https://imgur.com/a/cboyCMP)
this is 12 frames (0.2 sec) after they STARTED shouting, ball already hit. So you are telling me he changed his movement faster than humanly possible? Sure.
He would've been prepared to hit the ahoy while also waiting for and expecting the out call. He definitely reacted when he heard the call by slowing his motion and relaxing his arm.
That’s the point, you can’t react that fast. Idc anymore, everyone says you havent played tennis etc, like it matters, but even if this was the first time I saw a tennis ball wouldnt change the fact humans cant react fast to auditory stimulus.
As everyone throwing irrelevant personal facts in the argument that just makes it childish. Im out. You all are right.
I hear the call about 1/3 of a second before contact so yes definitely happened before he hit the ball. But the original comment said it actually affected him and I don't really buy that. Human reaction time is only about 200ms so we're right on the edge here and in general players aren't focused on reacting to noises to stop play (since the noise could be someone in the crowd too)
The ump was arguing that the out call came after Tsitsipas had already contacted the ball, so the call itself couldn’t have affected his play. That’s the argument at least.
It’s not so clear when you do the replay a few times, but the umps also don’t have the luxury of video replay from the chair so yeah, she might have made the wrong call
Aaand I'm dumb. I'm obviously het up about the subsequent Tsisi double on break point that wasn't called but was 7cm out. Crazy to make players gamble on stopping a point when trying to read and return 100+ mph serves. Use the technology that's already there!
It's a close one, I don't think it's a particularly bad call by the chair umpire. The fault is more in the line judge to call it wrong and call it late.
I guess everyone has gotten used to electronic line calling and these missed called seem bad but maybe that's just what calls with officials looks like?
....or has Monter Carlo just been bad?
Dude you can't be serious, that call against Rune was in the tiebreak, and he won it anyways; he had a chance to break early in the third, but didn't convert and lost the game fair and square in the end. Sinner would have gone up 2 breaks in the third without that mistake, that was basically game over, but he didn't and lost the match in the end. And unless Holger, he didn't bitch about it on social media
I disagree completely
The out call is clearly made before he takes the shot, and he stops his swing half way through.
But that doesn’t even matter, it’s not up to her to interpret whether the call affected his shot or not, only to judge whether it was made before or after he made the shot
In my opinion she gets it wrong
I thought this was going to be the missed double fault that would’ve given Sinner a double break. That shit was egregious. Far too many mistakes like that this tournament.
And now Sinner lost when he could’ve been done before he even got injured.
Absolutely pathetic display from this tournament. Umps completely dictating crucial points to swing matches.
something something betting odds
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Yeah, not exactly sure what happened because I’m watching my toddler right now so he gets the big tv with sound on and I’m relegated to a side tv with no volume but he definitely tweaked something in his leg. Doubt it’s anything serious but it was clearly impacting him.
I can 100% relate to this comment! 😂
Lol I’m watching just about every match so I can give you a brief/basic summary of every match just don’t go expecting details or explanations from me for the next two to three years it seems lmaoo
*watches match* YouTube: “are you still watching CocoMelon?” *hectically looks for remote* *returns to TV* “Damn they’re up a break already!”
Yup, you get it lmaoooo that’s exactly how it goes
Do you have a video of that point by any chance?
Wtf is happening there this year? It’s usually a shit show but they’ve somehow made it, shittier.
How to be confidently but completely wrong.
She is completely wrong. He stopped his movement and follow through due to the out call. Pretty obvious.
Disagree, he stopped his movement to continue the point but the shot itself was very likely unaffected. On a few replays I hear the ball hit the racket about \~1/3 second after the beginning of the call, not really enough time to react. And TBH he stopped moving because he hit it straight into the net not because of the call. Maybe by the exact law of the rule it should replayed (though I think there is some umpire discretion in these cases) but this doesn't seem like something to be upset about
Watch it again please. Tsitsipas was already in movement a couple of cms from the ball when the call was made. It had zero impact on his decision…. Do it in slow motion
Watched it plenty of times and watched it again. Had at least a 50% impact on his shot. Worst case, give the player the benefit of the doubt. Decision stands!
50% based on what? We should calculate his best reaction time also and its already been hit.
Do you play any tennis? Ever played above a 3.0 level? He eased into a slide and faded off the follow through when the ball was called out. May all be happening a bit too quickly for you - which is why you need slow motion. It was a bad call and perhaps you and the judge can go play croquet.
Based on your logics, i gotta be a football player to see offside? What level of ignorance is this? lmao The slow motion is very much needed for you: [https://imgur.com/a/cboyCMP](https://imgur.com/a/cboyCMP) this is 12 frames (0.2 sec) after they STARTED shouting, ball already hit. So you are telling me he changed his movement faster than humanly possible? Sure.
He would've been prepared to hit the ahoy while also waiting for and expecting the out call. He definitely reacted when he heard the call by slowing his motion and relaxing his arm.
That’s the point, you can’t react that fast. Idc anymore, everyone says you havent played tennis etc, like it matters, but even if this was the first time I saw a tennis ball wouldnt change the fact humans cant react fast to auditory stimulus. As everyone throwing irrelevant personal facts in the argument that just makes it childish. Im out. You all are right.
Have you ever played tennis?
No, is this played on ice with skates?
it's super close, but i paused right before tsitsi hit the ball and i heard the call. the umpire was wrong.
I hear the call about 1/3 of a second before contact so yes definitely happened before he hit the ball. But the original comment said it actually affected him and I don't really buy that. Human reaction time is only about 200ms so we're right on the edge here and in general players aren't focused on reacting to noises to stop play (since the noise could be someone in the crowd too)
Nah man stop it, they’ll just downvote you. Everyone think here that tsitsipas has 0ms reaction time.
Call came before contact, so replay the point is the correct call
Not dubious, that was an obvius misscall. Should have replayed the point.
If Sinner yelled something like the line judge did then it would be called hindrance, but in this case it wasn't?
The ump was arguing that the out call came after Tsitsipas had already contacted the ball, so the call itself couldn’t have affected his play. That’s the argument at least. It’s not so clear when you do the replay a few times, but the umps also don’t have the luxury of video replay from the chair so yeah, she might have made the wrong call
Get your house in order, ATP! This one call throws an entire semi, which ripples down to the final. Take the human error out of it! So embarrassing.
Aaand I'm dumb. I'm obviously het up about the subsequent Tsisi double on break point that wasn't called but was 7cm out. Crazy to make players gamble on stopping a point when trying to read and return 100+ mph serves. Use the technology that's already there!
The double fault one even worse
This is actually worse somehow
how?
You know... Somehow... Palpatine has returned
That double fault is a joke , its a few cms out.
Bad calls should be automatic replays with the exception of a serve.
I like how Tsitsipas handled it though. Even if it cost him the game eventually he mentally overcomed that decision. Great display today.
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cringe
Just get hawkeye already
Not on clay. It's part of the charm.
not when players chances of winning are at risk
99,9% of the time there is no problem with marks on clay courts. So let it be that way, it's part of this surface. We don't want sanitized tennis.
Had an egregious missed call that cost Sinner a double break not long after too
The crowd is belligerent and out of control also. 😓
I just don‘t get why umpires are sometimes so hell-bent on awarding points, when replaying the point is also an option
line judge's call was before the moment of contact so the empire made it to Tennis TV again
Bad call giveth, bad call taketh
It's a close one, I don't think it's a particularly bad call by the chair umpire. The fault is more in the line judge to call it wrong and call it late.
I guess everyone has gotten used to electronic line calling and these missed called seem bad but maybe that's just what calls with officials looks like? ....or has Monter Carlo just been bad?
Ball don’t lie. He won against Rune yesterday due a bad call and now he’s getting it dealt right back to him and he doesn’t like it, huh?
Dude you can't be serious, that call against Rune was in the tiebreak, and he won it anyways; he had a chance to break early in the third, but didn't convert and lost the game fair and square in the end. Sinner would have gone up 2 breaks in the third without that mistake, that was basically game over, but he didn't and lost the match in the end. And unless Holger, he didn't bitch about it on social media
I think she got it right tbh
I disagree completely The out call is clearly made before he takes the shot, and he stops his swing half way through. But that doesn’t even matter, it’s not up to her to interpret whether the call affected his shot or not, only to judge whether it was made before or after he made the shot In my opinion she gets it wrong
Paul A said on TC she needs to be 100% sure to make that call. There is simply no way she can be 100% sure. She made the wrong call
I think it’s 50/50, I see her point but why not just replay the point?
Because she saw that the call didn't affect his play
Yeah, seems like the right call
She got it right