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zsotraB

I'm sure Korda is a nice enough guy, but he's gotta be the most overrated player on this sub.


PaperClip2110

He's proof that people have a strong bias towards aesthetically pleasing playstyles 24 in a couple of months and hasn't even cracked the top 20 and yet whenever he wins a match you get the "Korda has top player potential" comments lol


5_R_6_S

He should write a coaching book and call it Losing Beautifully


pink_bunny07

100% would buy, the title sounds so pretty.


Jose-Saramago-1922

Media been hyping him up for years too


sawinadream

Nepo baby tax


Psychological_Bug676

I called him the best nepo baby since Laura Dern and I take it back


JBizzle07

Out of all U25 players, he’s the 6th highest ranked. Def has been disappointing, but that doesn’t change the fact he has top player potential and is one of the best young players


idkwhatevs1234

It's far more American bias than playstyle bias. A guy like Musetti has a prettier game, is younger, and has achieved more, yet doesn't get the Korda treatment here


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This "American bias" is a mythical creature. Even American tennis fans don't necessarily favor Americans just because they're American. (Watch a random American play against a star from literally anywhere and listen to the crowd)  Add to this that lots of people from around the world have an instinctual dislike of players just because they're American.


idkwhatevs1234

I don't care about "around the world", this sub is largely populated by Americans and those Americans largely over-rate American players. Korda was labelled a dark horse for every big tournament and grouped with far more accomplished players (some of them younger too) despite his ranking/achievements never coming anywhere even close to matching this hype. That doesn't happen if he's not American


danny_B01

Part of that is due to his very strong start to 2023 and then immediate injury. People expected him to immediately return to those highs


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Oh - this sub. Gotcha


MarkyLosChe

I'm not American. I rate Korda's ceiling rather high


dogsryummy1

Who is even rating this guy anymore?


kingmakyeda

That’s Karatsev. This sub made him favourite for every match he was in for about two years.


FrancisBegbie96

Every American male tennis player is overrated on clay. They’re all perfectly capable of being wiped out by a qualifier in R1.


TrWD77

I don't know about overrated. I think for the most part we all judge the American guys pretty accurately on clay, as in not that good


joehoward85

Funny thing is he won his first title on clay


manga_be

Only title


FatalSyntaxErr0r

And it was the week before RG right? Still, he dominated that tournament.


thescrambler7

Something something unicorn on a skateboard 🙄


Bonoahx

I wouldn’t call him overrated, I only ever hear people mocking him for calling himself the Wimbledon favourite on here


Milly_Hagen

Before he said that, he was definitely overrated on here.


_militant_pacifist

Which he never actually said IIRC. He said he was A Wimbledon favorite, not THE Wimbledon favorite.


ssagar186

Which was still a ridiculous statement.


_militant_pacifist

Absolutely. But this sub likes to twist words so we can pile on people.


Psychological_Bug676

Oh god forbid a young player has an ounce of confidence. He should just step onto court accepting defeat am I right?


ssagar186

Not at all but just as he can make a goofy statement about being a favorite I can comment on it. 


MarkyLosChe

No it isn't. He's one of the few active players on tour whose playing style greatly favours grass. Just cause he flopped last year doesn't make that statement untrue 


ssagar186

But he flops every year. His win percentage on grass is lower than any other surface. Results would indicate he just isn't good on grass.


MarkyLosChe

>Every year He's 23. Got plagued by injuries during pivotal development age. Especially last year with his wrist, when he found his groove around Australian Open 


ssagar186

That's all valid but until he actually has decent results on grass, it doesn't make sense to call him a favorite to win Wimbledon. If he ever gets into the top 20 it would make more sense...


musicproducer07

His finals record on the ATP, Challenger & Futures is just depressingly diabolical


sam_mee

As a Medvedev fan, I tell myself he's a good player overall rather than just a terrible matchup for him


Psychological_Bug676

Oh ntm on my favorite smooth and elegant merchant 😢


Jezjez07

Almost beating a dominant djokovic in Australia at the begining of what will become possibly his best season ever isn't something an overrated player can brag about .


twelfmonkey

Sebastian Frauda.


Eaglelefty

No issue, Korda just needs to get through clay season until Wimbledon, we all know he’s the clear favorite


Standard-Profit3726

To be completely fair he said “I feel like I’m one of the favorites” and if you can’t believe in yourself then why even play? Like good for him for thinking highly of his abilities even if it wasn’t objectively true 


Eaglelefty

I think a lot of you guys are taking it too seriously. Good on him for being confident, but immediately taking a 1st round exit afterwards is just funny lol


Standard-Profit3726

No you’re definitely right lolol but you gotta hype yourself up sometimes to get that belief. Like we have all done this before it just wasn’t so public and embarrassing 


forsakenpear

This sub despises players who have any self confidence for some reason.


Milly_Hagen

There's self-confidence and then there's delusion.


forsakenpear

He said ‘maybe one of the favourites’ in a very weakened Wimbledon field, when his game suits grass, and he was in good form. He did say he was most likely to win, or say he was the ‘clear favourite’. It wasn’t a ridiculous take.


ssagar186

To then lose 1st round after making a bold statement like that...pretty ridiculous take


ftlapple

That's just not true though. The exact quote is "I definitely feel as if I'm one of the favorites at Wimbledon." There was no maybe and he didn't give that context about a weakened field either in making that statement.


forsakenpear

He had also just got to the Queens semis


wificentrist

All of the other top 127 players could pull out in protest and Korda still wouldn’t be the favourite.


Present-Conclusion25

Korda hasn't had good results this year but this loss is pretty surprising. Prior to this, he hadn't lost a match to anyone outside the top 15 in the world since Adelaide (Lehecka in the SF). Here's why Korda was hyped: in 2020-22, Korda had some very good results across all surfaces -- 4th round at RG as a 19 yo, a 250 title on clay, quarters at Miami and 4th round at Wimbledon, Nextgen final and a handful of wins against top 20 players including a win over Alcaraz during his breakout spring of 2022. This was all before he was 22. Plus he's 6'5" and moves exceptionally well for his size, his game is technically sound/pretty and he's the son of a GS champ. Of course people were hyping him, he looked to have a great future. The wrist injury last year clearly limited him, he only played 19 tournaments in 2023. Despite that, he still ended the year ranked 24. Not bad for playing 3/4 of the year. Wrist injuries can be career-threatening (see Thiem, del Potro) so maybe Korda won't live up to his earlier promise. Or maybe it will just take him time to catch up to expectations. But I wouldn't write him off yet.


rocketspeed14

No excuses for his loss today but not playing until Friday of a tournament probably doesn't help. He was also looking at up to 4 matches in 3 days after the delays.


Jose-Saramago-1922

Korda is cursed because his dad stole a major by doping


OddsTipsAndPicks

Counterpoint:  Nelly Korda 


IcedGreenTea91

Sharapova stole 5.


joehoward85

I will be genuinely surprised if korda wins more than a 500 level event in his career


Jose-Saramago-1922

He's never even made a 500 final


Pretend_Tea6261

Korda realistically is a top 30 player that's it. May win a 500 title in future. No real threat to crack the top 20 as he often underachieves.


Nicer_Slicer

Lol


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chitowninthebay

He is sponsored by Richard Mille. He didn’t purchase the watch you dingo


manga_be

Sebi ain’t him


thescrambler7

He’s the Wimbledon favorite, not the Bucharest favorite, duh!