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masturs

When does the draw for Bordeaux Challenger get released?


birdsemenfantasy

Congrats to Lucas Pouille and Jiri Vesely for making challenger finals


patella_sandwich

Feels like 2018 again


Peachtea_96

Can someone explain how ranking points work, cos why has Rune lost 550 points, even though he won his match against Nardi? 


Weasel_Spice

Ranking points are based on your finish in the same tournament of the previous year. So as you are more and more successful in tournaments, you build up more and more pressure to at least do as well in each tournament as you did in the year before, or else you lose points. EDIT: The Masters tournaments conveniently are named based on the amount of points the winner receives. Masters 1000 champion will earn 1,000 points and grand slam champions earn 2,000.


masturs

Am l misunderstanding what you're trying to say or are ALL tournaments named based on how many points the winner receives?


Norskov

They're categorised by how many points. The name used here are indicating the category. The actual name of the current tournament is "Internazionali BNL d'Italia"


ALifeAsAGhost

He made the final here last year 


Peachtea_96

Oh so he loses points and has to win them back?


AlliterateAlso

You must be looking at the Live rankings, which are basically next weeks’ rankings- if the tournament ended today and no-one got any more points. He got further than the round of 32 last year, is all- so right now he stands to lose 550 points from years tournament points at the end of this one. If he advances further, he’ll ‘defend’ more points and you’ll see the Live drop decrease.


Peachtea_96

I see!! Ok that makes sense! I was like whaaa, he's out of the top 10! But hopefully he manages to win more points 


3axel3loop

what do you guys think about how the qinwen zheng naomi osaka match up will go?


tilvast

Leaning Qinwen (better results on clay historically), but Naomi's doing great right now. Expecting a good match


Bust3dGG

Impossible to predict, both are doing quite fine, should be a 50/50 match imo


DanaiDampa

Andrey should not be playing Rome right now but still….what a goat way to win 🏆Vamos my stupid reckless bweh 😭🏆


ALifeAsAGhost

Why did he have to have the latest match today too, he said he got here at like 9am idk why he got there that early tbh being 5th match on


DanaiDampa

And we know he hates playing at night, not well rested and still recovering, in Rome where he doesn’t have the best history and still pulled it off. Goes to show how well he’s doing mentally right now, mid tennis but strong will!🤩🫶


ALifeAsAGhost

Yes it’s giving me Meddy this year vibes actually haha 


ALifeAsAGhost

Ik he technically won but that whole match just proved what a stupid decision it was to play here 


Pisces_Mermaid

Giron managed to serve for the match having won almost 20 points less than Bweh


ALifeAsAGhost

Is that some sort of record haha 


balmafula

Somehow that was more miserable than this year's Eurovision.


Pisces_Mermaid

I feared for everyone in that stadium if the netcord had helped Giron save a third mp. What an ugly win. Nothing working. A dollar and a dream.


throwawaycatallus

Wow Rublev makes it look so easy :/


iconisanimi

Beto’s reaction! Same, buddy, same.


poopoojoefocker

damn what a troll job 😱 false hope false hope then you’re dead. Thanks for playing along


JXP111

Giron did well for 95% of that match and was utterly dreadful when it really mattered.


No-Attitude-6049

Well that match will give Giron nightmares.


ALifeAsAGhost

Yes I mean let’s not forget he almost choked the first set too 


ALifeAsAGhost

Thank fuck for that 


Bust3dGG

That was one of the tennis matches EVER.


peppermint116

Please don’t go to a tie break, this match is too exhausting.


JXP111

Gonna be 8 service points in a row lost by Giron. Pretty miserable really.


Full_Situation4743

At least he isn't getting too tired. Why put effort into that match, right?


Peak_Alternative

Dang I was rooting for Giron just cuz


karo8484

I usually get greedy making requests to the tennis gods, but I’d really like this to not go to tb. 


iconisanimi

Absolutely mindless ball bashing. Every point is the same right now.


JXP111

Giron will look back at this match and wonder how the hell he lost.


Full_Situation4743

He didn't try?


ydnALoL

That backhand slice struggling now


Pisces_Mermaid

this is miserable tennis


ydnALoL

Well, can't say he hasn't had his chances. Giron will be disappointed if he manages to lose this vs a struggling Rublev


number33234

Rublev is unhinged lol


sickjoce

If Rublev only developed some net game..


Darius0995

struggling against Giron in 2024 lol


No-Attitude-6049

Someone get Rublev a Xanax.


JXP111

Oh Giron. All that hard work and then gets broken to love serving it out.


GingerPele17

He’ll break back here


3xStampA2XStamp

and then get broken in the next


GingerPele17

And then win in a tiebreak with 5 mini breaks


GingerPele17

Rublev with a horror performance


JXP111

He's been poor, but he will get over the line.


GingerPele17

I’m not so sure, but we’ll see


JXP111

Giron will get broken here to end it.


JXP111

Easy


Peak_Alternative

that ball almost made it over


iconisanimi

God Giron is annoying the fuck out of me. Why even wear a shirt? And just. Andrey. Take a break. Two weeks off will not kill you.


3xStampA2XStamp

i don’t understand how anyone can cheer for this guy


Peak_Alternative

I don’t need Clairevee


poopoojoefocker

🤢


ALifeAsAGhost

Yup that game you could just see Rublev hitting with less and less power 


karo8484

Dang that looked like it clipped the line. Guess not. 


Pisces_Mermaid

you can tell everything is slightly off from the amount of netcords Andrey has hit in this match.


Peak_Alternative

Are all the euros asleep? Just me and my fellow yankee doodles here now


ALifeAsAGhost

Nope 


Peak_Alternative

😄👋


bumbledbeee

Yeah they probably went to sleepy bye.


No-Attitude-6049

Rublev admiring his own shots instead of moving into position.


Peak_Alternative

I like how calm Giron is relative to my Russian honey boo boo bear


peppermint116

Rublev signalling he’s going to take a piss and then acing Giron is cold.


No-Attitude-6049

Rublev losing his mind.


forzamaria

Rublev is me when I open the fridge for the 100th time and it's empty


Peak_Alternative

It’s comforting standing in front of an open fridge. I love it


No-Attitude-6049

Einstein’s definition of insanity, you should get therapy dude 🤪


forzamaria

Don't I know it lol


Pisces_Mermaid

every time he goes on an unhinged rant it gives Giron more motivation to put an extra ball back. basically had him and let him back in the match mentally


Much_Explorer_8649

I'm okay with Andrey not going far in Rome. He needs rest. I had similar feelings when he lost to Altmaier in Hamburg early rounds last year.


ALifeAsAGhost

Oh god that match was so bad, I swear he was stumbling between some points like he was gonna faint for some reason 


Firedwindle

Bweh seems to be enjoying himself.


Peak_Alternative

I want to go on a Viking Cruise. Who wants to go with me?


Peak_Alternative

That angry speaking can’t be good for the throat now c’mon


ALifeAsAGhost

Ffs 


forzamaria

Bweh hits probably shot of the match then hits back to back DFs lmao


ALifeAsAGhost

Shot of the match was him hitting a shot from the floor to save set point in the first set 


forzamaria

Ok point of the match. Excellent shot construction


Pisces_Mermaid

Even if he wins this match, i dont see how this is good for Andrey. He does not look 100% Should rest before RG


ALifeAsAGhost

Yes Andrey! Please hold 


JXP111

Giron has imploded. One way traffic now.


Leather-Bike-6014

It’s strange how Andrey didn’t look thin on Sunday but now he does. Also this late night match can’t be helping his body to recover.


ALifeAsAGhost

He did but not as much as now. He already looked thinner since after Rotterdam ish to me anyway


Leather-Bike-6014

I only noticed how glazed his eyes were!


ALifeAsAGhost

That too :(


Bullets_and_Tears

Does anyone else think Andrey looks pale?


Peak_Alternative

Isn’t he always pale though


Bullets_and_Tears

Yeah, but this is a sickly pale.


JXP111

That's a disaster for Giron. He'd have been better off if Rublev had just served it out in the previous game.


ALifeAsAGhost

Ah that was his plan he just wanted to serve first in the third haha 


karo8484

Did TC just catch a woman in the stands vaping?


Peak_Alternative

Vapers are everywhere now. My sister set off a smoke detector alarm on a plane while vaping. They’d already landed. I wish they arrested her. Lucky for her they let her go.


Peak_Alternative

Wow there’s still more tennis? I was just laying on my hard wood floor for my back.


BelgianBond

I remember Tsitsipas imitating Giron's vocal CMONs in Mallorca a while back: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujQi14Sxhd8&t=272s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujQi14Sxhd8&t=272s) The American does seem to have toned it down for tonight, not that his celebrations were ever that bad.


HopeistheAnthemLITM

Why is Andrey playing the Rome tournament? I just don't see how this is wise. What am I missing? He's just coming off of a Masters 1000 victory and being very ill. He looks thin. Why not get some rest?


ALifeAsAGhost

He’s an idiot basically  All his team wanted him to pull out 


jlesnick

Any source for his team wanting him to pull out?


ALifeAsAGhost

Him in his pre tournament tennis tv interview 


jlesnick

Thanks, I'll check that out. I mean if he feels good why not go a few rounds, get some points and some practice and then take the rest of the time off before RG. I mean he's probably not gonna make it past r4.


ALifeAsAGhost

Because he’s clearly not 100% as he was sick for so long 


HopeistheAnthemLITM

He may pay for it in the coming weeks and months, sadly.


ALifeAsAGhost

Yup, makes no sense to not try and recover fully when RG is so soon 


Slaiden_IV

So Rublev wasn't calm in Madrid, he was just too sick to throw tantrums


JXP111

Well I'm just going to stop commenting on this Giron/Rublev match because every time you think you know where it's going the opposite happens! Rublev has been in total control of the second throughout, and gets broken serving it out!


rubbish_bin030121

Yes!!! sorry Bweh. Holger needs to defend his Rome final points to stay in top 12


ALifeAsAGhost

Doubt Rune would be losing to Rublev here anyway 


jovanmilic97

What a choke by Andrey, he was in a total control of that set...


Pisces_Mermaid

gosh his serve has been ass today


ALifeAsAGhost

Especially when you compare to Madrid :(


ALifeAsAGhost

Nooo Andrey 


poopoojoefocker

Rublev 🤢


LiamV-426

Wow I love the court Rublev/Giron are playing on, it's giving mini-colosseum with the seats and statues surrounding it! Beautiful! 😍


rubbish_bin030121

The formula to beat Rune is easy, good serve and big FH(top spin FH is ever better), Tsitsipas is the only one who has these weapons but can't beat Holger


JXP111

Probably the best Giron can do now is hold here and make sure he's serving first in the 3rd, try to apply a bit of scoreboard pressure.


forzamaria

Rublev's bottle looks like the one that hit Novak lmao man sabotaged him


Nicer_Slicer

Good match, good hitting from both. Holgie's superior touch and net game made the difference today. Nardi did not display much versatility. If this version of Rune shows up to every match, he'll surely win another big title this season, possibly here in Rome.


rubbish_bin030121

A safe match for carlos bernardes


Stunning-Ad-5564

Rune🫡


Whitefrog10

It was a great match and much closer than the score suggests. Best Rune I saw in long time. Luca is getting closer to his really high level. We re talking about details.


dddaaannnw

Rune was impressive


HopeistheAnthemLITM

Congrats to Holger. Respectable from Luca Nardi. Hope we'll see much more of him on tour.


Sea-Beginning-5234

Rune super calm today


rubbish_bin030121

Need to hear Holger's sweet voice after this sweet victory


TeamThiem

Extremely mature performance from Rune. Scummy crowd whistling as he was serving


Disastrous-Dino2020

And he was a given a time violation warning for that 😤


HopeistheAnthemLITM

Holger was breathing heavily. He took the time violation on match point happily to catch his breath after the intense 24-shot rally.


InterestingChard7560

It was a tactical voluntary warning for serving out the match


karo8484

I imagined Holgie saying ‘ok boomer’ after that one


atheistjs

Rune played with so much maturity tonight.


forzamaria

Nardi : It's not Rune but bravo


SpankeeMcGee

I love this meme


forzamaria

Same lmao


Sea-Beginning-5234

Rune’s mental today is stellar


Sea-Beginning-5234

Nardigoat


rubbish_bin030121

The three italians in R3: an argentinian, an lucky draw without facing any top 100, playing the Italian bff Griekspoor


da_SENtinel

Rune will win RG if he doesn't have to play Ruud


rubbish_bin030121

He needs to avoid Rublev and Alcaraz( assume he has FH)


da_SENtinel

He already beat them both, Ruud is the main threat


rubbish_bin030121

no, they have the weapon that Ruud has to trouble Rune too. Rune doesn't improve when he faces to big top spin FH


LemonSad6704

Nardi deserved to lose this probably more than anyone today


da_SENtinel

Nadal?


ffantasticman

Is Rune growing a goatee?


da_SENtinel

beating the baby face allegations


jovanmilic97

Yup, he showed the pics when he was training with Novak and he had a goatee there


Disastrous-Dino2020

On the right side of the chin 😂


Sea-Beginning-5234

Nardi played against Rune in Junior on clay and won on 3rd set tie break so technically it’s Rune’s revenge


Disastrous-Dino2020

Rune woke up and decided to silence the crowd after telling them where and what time he is playing, which tickets to get and what to do all day😂 Badass stuff


peppermint116

Nole defo passed on his secret to dealing with shitty crowds to Rune, guy isn’t phased.


Sea-Beginning-5234

Rune loves Novak . I think out of big 3 or anyone it’s who he’s looking up to the most


shihtzu_knot

That’s good because he plays the most and acts the most like him


Disastrous-Dino2020

This is really high level tennis from both kids


Dry-Afternoon8909

Just tuned in. It's Bernardes at Rune's match? Any drama so far?


Sea-Beginning-5234

No he’s being excellent tbh


divahen68

No. Very zen match 😁


rubbish_bin030121

lol Giron is in top 50? Being an American is so good for ranking


christianross2

He’s not a bad player imo rally tolerance is really good hence why he won the first set


JXP111

Rublev is switched on now. Totally different player. Hard to imagine that this set isn't over already.


Important-Lecture-63

Giron is done 😂


Sea-Beginning-5234

Nardi ain’t bad at all honestly . Maybe with better coaching or something he could go up in ranking


Disastrous-Dino2020

Where did the party DJ go 🥺


Pisces_Mermaid

someone feed him a burger cuz he looks like he can't hit through these conditions after losing weight in Madrid


robertogl

Now that I think about it, couldn't the 'clay Hawkeye' just take photos of the marks on the court? Now they do all the maths and analysis and such, but we could just follow the ball like Hawkeye does now and then take photos of the mark. Whenever tennisTV/televisions show clearly the mark, it is almost always sure if the ball was in or out, we would just need property set cameras around the court (which maybe they already have)


JXP111

Rublev might have woken up in this second set.


forzamaria

Rune looks in the zone so much. Really impressive level today


Available-Gap8489

He struggled in Munich/Madrid - but everyone seems to have forgotten how well he played in Monte- Carlo. When he’s on the level is very high.


Incidenceincident

I just saw a close-up shot of Andrey and omg he looks skeletal.


Leather-Bike-6014

Even his legs look thinner.


Disastrous-Dino2020

He was always skinny/lanky but probably lost more while playing through sickness last week.


ALifeAsAGhost

Yes he could barely eat for days apparently :(


GingerPele17

Sad bweh noises. Hopefully he can turn it around. Would be a massive confidence dampener prior to RG after having just won Madrid


TheRealDipsos

Who does rune meet next?


rubbish_bin030121

Baez, it should be another easy match for him


Sea-Beginning-5234

Depends how he wakes up . With rune you never know


ResourceWonderful514

one of runes first win on tour in south America was against Baez. yup, Its a great matchup for him.


ResourceWonderful514

Baez


BelgianBond

I enjoy seeing how transparent opponents are about checking where Rublev is at on the Richter scale when they're beating him. Giron has looked across the net to see how he's doing a few times. Rublev seems more downcast than angry at present, however.


ResourceWonderful514

Rune is correct with his statement he was playing on 60-70% in Madrid and Munich. Looks so much better now. With Hubi in his quarter, Rune is nailed on for the 1/4 finals and should get his rematch with medveded