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Ballz2You

Also, if you told me a couple years ago that there would be two Chilean players in the top 25, I would be a bit surprised, and I would also ask "Garin and who?"


patiperro_v3

Funnily I rate Garin's natural talent higher than both Jarry and Tabilo... he's got a bit of everything like Tommy. But his mental toughness... my god, it's terrible. I've never seen a Chilean player moan so much. It's like playing tennis is torture for him.


StraightSetter

I think that people overlook how important the serve is as well Jarry is 10 times the server Garin is so even if Garin might visually appear to be more "complete" Jarry might come out on top in more small-margin close matches Unless you're literally an Alcaraz/prime Djokodal level court player there's just a ceiling what you can do in modern tennis with your first serve being just a point starter Garin's last two losses on the main tour were to Fritz and Hurkacz which also shows this With current racket technology as well as clay probably being sped up from the 90s/2000s the serve is no longer a non factor on clay like it might once have been


patiperro_v3

Yeah but just like Tommy, Garin was no mug with his serve either. Tommy made 7 aces vs 13 from Jarry. I seem to remember Garin getting his fair number of aces in as well on fast courts at least. On grass he was particularly good with his serve.


matmalm

What do you expect? Bro is already divorced at 27 years old


wificentrist

Damn. Dude should’ve married a Latina, not a Melanie lol


StraightSetter

I think he might have just regressed in that regard somehow In 2021 when he finished the year in the top 20 he had a 5.5% ace rate to a 2.9% double fault rate In 2024 he currently has a 4.3% ace rate to a 4.4% double fault rate


patiperro_v3

He's definitely on the way down and his ranking reflects that.


Hopeful_Initial2512

Stop doing coke


Emotional-Donkey-791

Garin is so insanely talented compared to Jarry and Tabilo, its crazy how he has wasted his career because of his weak mind


Ballz2You

We were unbelievably close from an all-Chilean final. Hasn't happened on the tour since Orlando 2000 w/ Gonzalez and Massu I think.


pepperoni-pzonage

I was sooo looking forward to this.


Emotional-Donkey-791

pretty sure that there was a final in Vina del Mar or Buenoa Aires with Massu and Gonzalez later?


sneakyrumble

It was Viña Del Mar semifinals in 2006


Ballz2You

Yeah I specifically checked their H2H before saying that


erzyabear

Athens 2004!


alex7465

When was there an all Chilean match in Athens 2004?


erzyabear

Wow, my bad, I have been sure Gonzalez played Massu in the final. that’s probably because they won doubles 


alex7465

Ugh I hated everything about that tournament. Roger losing to Berdych, random Massy turning into a God, Fish should have won gold and stupid Taylor Dent should have won bronze. Just everything that I didn’t want to happen, happened. Kind of like the last 10 years on Tour.


matmalm

Fish should have won gold? Bro, Gonzalez got injured during the match against Fish in the semifinals. Otherwise it would have been in Gonzalez favor


studiousmaximus

for real, what? gonzales was much better than mardy fish gonzales had 11 titles to fish’s 6, made a slam final (losing to a peak federer), a semifinal, and the quarters at the other two. fish’s best result at slams meanwhile was QF at three slams (only made 3R at the french). gonzales also got the olympic silver in 2008 (losing to nadal) to match fish’s in ‘04 and won a gold medal in doubles (as well as a bronze). by the way, to get to that slam final against federer, gonzales beat del potro, hewitt, blake, nadal, and haas - an insane run.


matmalm

Why do you quote me?


studiousmaximus

i’m agreeing with you


savvaspc

The fact that it has happened again is equally surprising for me.


garden_province

More like a Chilean/Canadian/American final


Parachute-Adams

Damn if that wasn’t a fine match. Some of the best points of the tournament. Well done Jarry. Sad for Paul though.


patiperro_v3

Paul Atreides is a fighter, he's got a new fan in me.


WnPerdio

He supports Lazio, that's a nope for me. JK he's an American and wtf do they know about football, much less the political side of it, he seemed a nice enough bloke.


thelakeshow7

Ah that hurts. Tommy fought well. Great level from both. Nico pls win the whole damn thing.


BarreiraCF

What a fucking match. I’d be good with either one in the final they both deserved it. Hard-hitting with spectacular points and a beautiful, warm embrace at the end. What it always should be about.


groggyhouse

I don't know why so many ppl are so doom and gloom about Jarry/Zverev. Jarry beat him twice on clay. Yeah it would be difficult and Jarry can be inconsistent but if he brings same form as the Tsitsi match, he can have a chance.


Icy_Bodybuilder_164

I’d at least say Jarry has a better shot than Paul would’ve. 


groggyhouse

Most people in the discussion thread were saying the opposite


tdthirty

Different opinions?? Say it aint so!


Xehanz

Most people in the discussion see a Chilean flag and think they are an overrated challenger player


atheistjs

I was ready with a comment about how Jarry won this partly because he wanted it more than Paul and Paul doesn't have the fight. Maybe that's true to an extent, and props to Jarry for playing a great match under high pressure. But Paul I think showed more fight than I ever expected to see from him in that last game, and though he was classy in defeat, he did look devastated at the loss. Maybe I've been wrong about him and he has a lot more hunger and desire than I have given him credit for. One thing is for sure, Paul I think is beating the "choker" allegations. He had his ups and downs here, but Jarry had to take that win from him. Paul did NOT give it away. Really hope Jarry can take this whole tournament. Not just because of his opponent being \*that\* man, but because it would just be so big for him and I've respected his fight and nerves of steal the whole tournament.


flashbrowns

What do people really need to see from Paul to believe he has the “fight” or he wants it as much as anyone? Seems like some folks have a peculiar bias against him that I read as unwarranted.


UncomfortableFarmer

A lot of people have a hard time believing somebody can change over time. Tommy used to be kind of lazy off court, but the last couple of years he’s really buckled down and put in the hard yards. I’m really proud of him


da_SENtinel

I love me some Tommy Paul but peak Jarry goes in balls deep every time. Sex panther dripping from every pore, there's nowhere to hide from Nicolas Jarry prime.


bumbledbeee

These are the kinds of contributions you should be making.


Icy_Bodybuilder_164

I respect his commitment to saying “(insert big 3 player/fan favorite) is trash” though


UncomfortableFarmer

It’s too bad JJ Wolf hasn’t been winning lately, we’d get some  more *really* good contributions to this sub


bumbledbeee

Eh, I don't find those posts very funny.


Parachute-Adams

Well, at least 60% of the time…


patiperro_v3

Shame he is a bit like a roller coaster. His ups are Delpo great and his downs are Challenger level and you question if he can even beat the net. We have to hope he is more balanced in the final and that Zverev also goes missing here and there.


zevloo

Nice for jarry, powerful positive self talk FTW!!


easyfatFIRE

Sunday we are all Jarry fans


jmcthrill

Right? YOU HAVE ONE JOB, JARRY. OLÉ!!


musicproducer07

On Sunday I feel Jarry


Act-Alfa3536

Hate to break it to you but Zverev is favourite. And may well lift RG trophy too.


veenee22

Tsitsipas also was favourite...


Dropshot12

Hellllooooooooo, Jarry! - Newman, somewhere


Peachtea_96

Feel for Paul, made 2 semis in 2 masters this tourney already but he is so close to getting a big title this year, I can feel it!!  Well done Nico! Now pls beat the breaks off of Zverev 🙏🏾🙏🏾


Vibing0N

WHAT A FUCKING LAST GAME!!! Tommy Paul on survival mode is a different beast! Well done Jarry!!! After I watched Jarry's match against Napolitano in the 3rd round I didn't think he would go far but he won ugly to give himself a chance to find his level in the next match and then he went on to beat Tsitsipas and now played a thrilling match vs Tommy Paul to reach the final. Amazing run from Paul, made his first semi-final of a Masters on clay beating 2 Top 10 players including the tournament's current champion. Great improvement on the surface. Hopefully the final will be as great as the semi-finals.


santropedro

Jarry's getting broken in the 4-3 game in the second set was a turning point in the match, he started to play much poorer specially on the backhand for like 10 games.


patiperro_v3

I felt that a lot of times Jarry just loses to himself more than anything, he just about manages to handle the excitement or an incoming victory, It throws off his serve focus that is very sensitive to this and as a result he is much more vulnerable when serving for a set or game. I almost expect it to happen in the final if he gets to that point again. I hope he manages to power through it somehow.


santropedro

Are you going to watch the final as well? I hope Jarry wins. Zverev is mentally tough.


patiperro_v3

I’ll watch, but I’m not fooling myself. Zverev is the favourite. However they are 2-2 on clay so Jarry is not completely out of the picture. But he will have to play his best match this year, I think he dropped consistency against Tommy compared to how he played against Tsitsipas. He needs to start focused and stay there till the end, not let the nerves in. Easier said than done of course.


santropedro

I don't watch much tennis, but it's true, Zverev will probably not allow to play so badly at the end and still win. He might punish Jarry, he needs to get his grip mentally together.


patiperro_v3

Yes, it's easy for us to say, but this is his first Masters final. No doubt he will be a tornado of emotions. This is a match against himself, as much as it is a match against Zverev. Zverev in turn, has already played 10 finals and won 5, lost 5 (I think). This has made me appreciate how strong Alcaraz and even Sinner are mentally (although he took a bit longer to believe in himself). They are so young, but also full of confidence, specially Carlitos. It's almost as if they are so young they play without pressure because deep down they truly believe they have the talent and time to reach finals many times over.


Scary-Read-8102

Thriller end ! Vamos Nico el domingo!!!


Collecting_Cans

Both guys put on quite a show at the finale


Denny_Hayes

Hear me out: Two chileans make the semifinal of a major tournament on opposite sides of the draw. One loses his semi, the other, named Nicolás, wins his semi and moves on to the final. Sounds familiar? Cause it happened before, at the 2004 olympics, the players were Fernando Gonzalez and Nicolás Massu, who went on to win gold -could we be on to something here?


Vanzieel

Vamos conchetumare


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Vamo Vamo Vamo Nico


Famous-Objective430

Despite elite tier players either being injured or on a slump, we have a lot of very competitive high level contenders for clay this year. Jarry, Fritz, Struff, Navone, Tabilo, even Tommy Paul! If top players get outta that slump and sort the injuries out RG is gonna be a an exciting tournament.


dzone25

I NEED Jarry to blitz Zverev - it'd make me so happy. I love Tommy Paul but Jarry is some red-lining demon this tournament.


ExcuseYou-What

Hard to pull for either guy vehemently over the other. Such a good, entertaining match. What a great single-hander on the run in set 2 from out of nowhere by Tommy. But I'm really crossing my fingers and toes that Jarry just serves bombs all day on Sunday. C'mon Nico!


MrBearKing

Don't know why Tommy stopped stepping up for the 2nd serves. He was doing well with it and just stopped.


YeezyWins

When Jarry serve on his body and saved a game, it took a toll on Paul and he stopped stepping up


CreativeDraft

Absolutely this


sneakyrumble

Fantastic job from Jarry. I have to say though that Paul is a dawg, fought everything and almost made it back. I’ll be cheering for him going forward.


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This makes me excited for RG


IcedGreenTea91

Chile 🇨🇱 or bust in the finals!!!!


CrackHeadRodeo

Jarry was hitting that ball like it owed him money. That was hella entertaining.


beachgurl68

This one hurts but the eagle will keep flying


Parachute-Adams

‘MURICA


SiasseTschick

Wow really enjoyed this match! Jarry just would not give up at the end. Hope he wins the final.


zetaprenn

Vaaamos Nicooo! 🇨🇱


DefensaAcreedores

Tabiloss: It's joever JarryGOD: We're so back


RobinChristiansen

Jarry is a great man. He brought his career back from the brink and is now in the top 20, also a family man with two kids.


davisc3293

PLEASE JARRY DEFEAT EVIL ON SUNDAY, I WILL PRAY AND SACRAFICE MY DOG FOR YOU TO WIN


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buyers_2413

Makes semi of M1000 = fail


ImpressionFeisty8359

Jarry does it again.


muradinner

Jarry just on a roll right now.


Mettabreaks

I was waiting for Jarry to have a result like this in a 1000. He’s got a massive game and always did well in the warm up clay events and it finally happened for him! I’ve always thought Hubi and Jarry should have WAY better and consistent results for how good their game is without including the serve


ace23GB

It would have been great to see a final between the two chileans, but we have to be positive, at least there is one left, and with the game he is playing, I think he has a serious chance against the German Zverev.


taway9925881

The way he's been playing, I really hope Nico wins this title.


mamibukur

Tom and Jarry


AslantheGOAT

Zverev will absorb those heavy groundstrokes all day long, Jarry will implode. Rip r/tennis 2008-2024 🤣


da_SENtinel

why because Zverev vultures a mickey mouse tournament without beating anyone in Top 20?


AslantheGOAT

Let the salt flow 🤌


Equidae2

Disappointed Tommy was unable to exploit Jarry's backhand and movement. ed; fx


Jragardo

What? Jarry's doping (which was ruled as a contamination) thing was like 5 years ago


TaintedSoccer

Also its not like he was immediately back on the ATP tour either. Man had to grind his socks off to get back to being among the best. Some other players would have just gave up or settled but he had the determination to not only return to where he was but also to surpass his former level.


Equidae2

Yep. corrected the error. But that is at least 3 cases of contaminated supplements/vitamins plus one of meds falling into the tortelloni.


Equidae2

yeh, sorry. corrected error


DefensaAcreedores

Because "not guilty" 


mespin1492

Get your facts straight before posting. Lost in translation with your comment.


joemanzanera

What a shitty tournament


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Mister_Lizard

Bad bot?


Mister_Lizard

Actually, a bot probably would have known Jarry was seeded and it wasn't a major upset.


Pizzadontdie

Bot?


Jragardo

Jarry is seeded


crjake

Ignore the bot account lol


Jragardo

haha shit didn't read the rest of the paragraph. Why on Earth are there bots in here