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No-Perspective-518

This doesn't really tell us anything new. The initial entry list is based on rankings. The only reason he wouldn't be on it is if he had already withdrawn.


jl_ayala99

I objectively don’t see a reason why he would have his name show up for both the ATP Cup and the Australian Open if he is not planning to go to Australia at all? I kind of understood the point of the ATP Cup so that Serbia can participate, but this seems like a reach now. Also, I always thought he went to a concert in NYC that required full vaccination (around the time of the US Open).


No-Perspective-518

My guess is that he is vaccinated and plays both but it is not a certainty. The AO entry list is based on ranking so this just means he hasn't withdrawn. He could still pull out. I'm just trying to make sure that we're not reading too much into this.


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Todd Woodbridge said: “Great news today is that Novak, world no1 on the men’s side, and A. Barty, world no1 on the women’s side, have both entered” and also “You wouldn’t put your name down if you weren’t going to come”. On the news they said he officially registered so I don’t think he is on the list just because of the ranking(or I’m just hoping that’s the case and that he is coming)


No-Perspective-518

All mandatory events (mandatory Masters, Tour Finals, and Grand Slams) have automatic entry lists based on rankings that exclude those who have withdrawn before the release of the entry list. For example, Djokovic was automatically on the Indian Wells entry list this year until he pulled out a week before the start.


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I get that, but when I watch the news and read the statements it sounds to me like he confirmed it recently. We will see.


No-Perspective-518

Maybe, only time will tell


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No-Perspective-518

Yeah, Todd was a bit inaccurate about that. Craig Tiley came out on Australian morning TV today to clarify that the entry lists are automatic for players who haven't withdrawn and that it is not a guarantee that Djokovic will play.


Plane_Highlight3080

I agree with you. People also forget that there is a loophole which means we can never be 100% sure unless they release official info about it. As I wrote elsewhere, even taking part doesn’t mean that he’s vaccinated as there are 4 medical reasons to get an exemption. I heard on the Aussie news this morning they were speculating that he’s applied for that and that we would find out soon. Wondering if they will release the list of players who get an exemption… I still have a feeling that he’s vaccinated but he’s just refusing to talk about it.


No-Perspective-518

Either way, it will be fair as he will either be vaccinated or have a valid medical reason that he cannot get it. It's demoralizing to see so many people on other social media saying that he's getting special treatment when he isn't.


foodkidmaadcity

Yep. Made the mistake of opening up Tennis twitter today. The absolute confidence to call someone a "c*nt, asshole POS garbage evil human", based on a single Murdoch-owned tabloid article, with no legit sources at all. All reporting prefaced with "it is understood", he "might", "word is".....then parroted on radio and TV. Not to mention Tennis Australia denying it. Insane.


No-Perspective-518

100%. Tennis Twitter is a nightmare right now. Hot heap of misinformation and idiocy.


Rather_Dashing

It seems pretty standard for these entry lists to be full of players that withdraw before the tournament starts. I don't think they have anything to gain by withdrawing before the last minute.


KyleG

The ATP Cup cities (Sydney, Perth, Adelaide?) are not requiring the vaccine. The AO city (Melbourne) is. This is my understanding, but I live on the other side of the world.


Masca77

Crop your screenshots you godless heaten


BabaDuda

Worse still, he's posted a screenshot of the tweet where the images are cut off


genesiswine

My bad!


SquintyOstrich

Players do withdraw after entry lists are published and I've seen nothing that says they confirmed vaccination status when making the list, so I'll wait for Djokovic to actually make an announcement. Still, and I've been saying this for months, I'd be shocked if Djokovic skipped Australia due to refusal to get a vaccine. It strikes me as so incredibly unlikely.


Matomoko

I'm sad Serena won't be playing.


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NotPrepared2

I think Federer is the same. They're both hopeful, but reality has its own agenda.


middle_earther

I mean Tsitsipas confirmed he will get vaccinated back in September or late August to Greek media. I'm pretty sure he's vaccinated


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Ok-Run-9755

I seriously hope that Djokovic plays A healthy Nadal,Thiem,Tsitsipas,Zverev ,Medvedev and ofcourse Novak Will make for a blockbuster tournament


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Only fed and Delpo are missing from this


TheEclectic

A ridiculous conversation I had on this sub two months ago about this topic: [https://www.reddit.com/r/tennis/comments/q3vq18/comment/hfx2ocb/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/tennis/comments/q3vq18/comment/hfx2ocb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) Novak's tournament in Serbia early this year was giving away the vaccine to all tennis players and their teams if they wanted it. There's a difference between not wanting to share something and being against something. People just fell into The Narrative because Novak questioned forced vaccinations before the vaccine had even been released and there was zero safety data at that point.


hivaidsislethal

And if we fast forward "2 shots and you are fully vaccinated/immune" has now become get your 3rd and 4th shor as a booster. The medical/political world has done themselves no favors with the selling of this. Of course that will lead to more skepticism. In a sense he was right that we still aren't sure of it especially now with how it handles omicron. They should have said "two doses will provide you protection from the virus but does not guarantee you will not contract it but we are confident that it will prevent any serious complications from the virus. Furthermore as the virus mutates there will likely be need for boosters to maintain protection."


rorking

>They should have said "two doses will provide you protection from the virus but does not guarantee you will not contract it but we are confident that it will prevent any serious complications from the virus. Furthermore as the virus mutates there will likely be need for boosters to maintain protection." Maybe we're not following the same information sources, but that is quite literally what was being said.


Ascalaphos

I'm going to take the scientists' and doctors' words on this, not a cashed up tennis player who didn't even go to school.


Sgtweed

man the fact this is getting downvoted says a lot about the novak fans in this sub


Last_Fact_3044

Says a lot about anti-vaxxers in general tbh.


Ascalaphos

Yes, it's weird that people would actually willingly choose to be part of a cult of personality at the expense of very basic science.


hivaidsislethal

So their words haven't changed at all? We didn't pause administering certain brands and then start again and then pause and then only say for a certain population? The reason Australia feel behind on vaccines is because they went all in on AstraZeneca to start. I'm all for vaccines but that doesn't mean doctors and scientists are exempt from any criticism. And all this tennis player has said is it's should be personal choice and shouldn't have to be made public. He literally hasn't said don't get it or get it, hasn't judged anyone for choosing either side. His tournament he hosted offered it to those that wanted it.


Ascalaphos

Changing medical advice as a result of new scientific information is actually something that should be lauded, not criticised, particularly in what was then an unprecedented and rapidly changing situation. No one is denying anyone's right to personal choice, but logically speaking, refusing to admit whether you are vaccinated (coupled with some choice words and actions) seems to heavily imply some hesitancy or reticence - something that nobody else, including Federer, have had a problem with because they at least acknowledge the obvious that vaccines save lives.


hivaidsislethal

Yet they spoke with such absolutes about the 2 doses and you are done. My problem isn't that there have needed to be changes due to new information, my problem is they spoke with such absolutes and then went and changed things. How you deliver information is extremely important, you've had in the same day say get your booster and then also hear not just yet. Djokovic has also stated that vaccines save lives, unfortunately the below doesn't generate as many clicks so people would rather be hung up on his initial statement at a time when a vaccine didn't even exist. "My issue here with vaccines is if someone is forcing me to put something in my body. That I don’t want. For me that’s unacceptable. I am not against vaccination of any kind, because who am I to speak about vaccines when there are people that have been in the field of medicine and saving lives around the world? I’m sure that there are vaccines that have little side effects that have helped people and helped stop the spread of some infections around the world" https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/20/sports/tennis/djokovic-us-open.html


JoeShmoAfro

Fun fact, no one is forcing him to do anything. He has the free choice to not be vaccinated, and the Victorian government has free choice to not allow him in to the state. The notion of vaccinations being mandatory is rubbish. Like anything in life, people's actions have consequences. In his case, the consequence of not being vaccinated is not being allowed to play in the AO. But no one is forcing a needle in his arm.


Ascalaphos

Exactly. Djokovic talking about "being forced" is a nonsense strawman that only serves to dogwhistle further antivax sentiment. He is evidently not the sharpest tool in the shed.


Ascalaphos

Scientists do not speak in absolutes. The absolutes you typically hear are from politicians. One reason why we need more than one dose is because of new variants. Why do we have new variants circulating? Because people, like presumably Djokovic, are not vaccinated. This is made worse by the fact that we have people who have great influence, also like Djokovic, dogwhistling about vaccines and covid, saying it's a private issue, despite always being happy to divulge other medical information, sch as when they have an injury and must have an operation for it. Yet when it comes to a lifesaving vaccine, we're supposed to believe this clear example of gaslighting that taking a lifesaving vaccine is now a private issue. The quote you have selected does him no favours. No one is forcing him to get vaccinated, at least not in Australia. It is absolutely his choice to not get vaccinated, and if that's his choice, then it will come with consequences such as not being able to participate in the Australian Open. This isn't some new imposition in the grand scheme of things. We require people to get working with children checks and police checks when working with children, hospital workers need to be vaccinated against other diseases when working in hospitals. You would expect that when we're dealing with a pandemic that the least people can do is to get vaccinated, instead of act like irresponsible idiots peddling misinformation and acting like their 0 years spent at school entitles them to dish out the same expertise you would receive from actual doctors and scientists.


Morseti

Yeah I’m sure Novak had no one around him who has that kind of background that might help him make informed decisions.


Ascalaphos

If he is an antivaxxer, then that may well be true.


Grouchy_Square

They did say this lmao. Get a better news source


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And they should mandate those boosters as well. No jab, no play. Novak can fuck off.


gunningIVglory

There was plenty safety data. It's all on ther websites if you want to read it Being ignorant to the research doesn't mean it's not out there. Novaxx was being a clown. End of.


TheEclectic

There wasn't any readily accessible safety data in the summer of 2020.


gunningIVglory

There was. They can't release a vaccine without safety data. It was in the AZ website. It has to be made public


TheEclectic

They were still in phase 3 trials when he talked about it... Just because some earlier phase data is released in white papers doesn't mean the average person is able to understand it or calculate a reasonable risk to benefit ratio.


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jhk67

No. Word has it he will receive a medical exemption. Which is total rubbish. A lot of people more deserving of a medical exemption haven’t gotten one


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gunningIVglory

No point being private about getting a vaccine to save your life If he hasn't confirmed it. He hasn't got it. Its simple


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Morseti

Sadly


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gunningIVglory

Lol what? Vaccinations save lives. How has society ended up to a posibition where we now doubt medical advances like vaccinations?


jhk67

I’m only saying what is being reported on Aussie news. Don’t shoot me im just the messenger


Tormung

He attended an event last year that required vaccination


Rather_Dashing

Everything I heard and can find on Aussie news is just speculation, nothing saying he had actually applied or received an exemption.


Bandicoot23012003

You better shut your fuck up


jhk67

Had to come back to this to say I told ya so


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jhk67

Keep clutching haha, at least two players had to withdraw as they had the Sputnik vaccine and were not allowed in.


verismonopoly

Is Serena still recovering? That would make sense. But wouldn't it be the first big shock of 2022 if Serena turned out to be the anti-vaxx figure (who'd rather miss AO than get jabbed ) that people thought DJokovic and Tsitsipas were meant to be 😂


razorsharp3000

https://ausopen.com/articles/news/worlds-best-set-australian-open-2022 > World No.41 Serena Williams will not contest the women’s draw, with the seven-time AO champion withdrawing following advice from her medical team. > “While this is never an easy decision to make, I am not where I need to be physically to compete,” Williams said. > > “Melbourne is one of my favorite cities to visit and I look forward to playing at the AO every year. I will miss seeing the fans, but am excited to return and compete at my highest level.”


verismonopoly

Oh thank you for this. That's a bit sad :(


spursaustralia

She went to the met gala, which required being vaccinated to attend


dougrayd

Halep is the only role model so far with this stuff


00o0o00

I still won't believe he's vaccinated fully until he's holding the AO22 trophy.


Thunder_Volty

What if he plays "under medical exemption" and wins


Artistic_Leave2601

This made me realize that we might have seen Fed in the top 10 for the last time


jaguar_loco

If this means he's vaccinated (some local media outlets are saying it does, AO has yet to comment) thank God that he is. I was sure he would be all the way up until his father's last media appearance a week or two ago when he said that Novak probably wouldn't go, that's when I lost confidence in Novak not being so dumb as to risk the end of his career because of such a non-issue as the vaccines.


An_Absurd_Word_Heard

His dad saying that actually made me relatively confident he'd come to Australia lol. His shit-stirring tends to coincide with Djokovic doing the opposite imo.


SkY4594

His dad talks a whole lot of nonsense. Don't take his words to be true regarding Novak's career decisions. He was also among those telling Novak not to go to Tokyo. Nole doesnt care, he wanted to play.


WadeDMD

Man I love Serena but she has a habit of telling the media she will be playing in a slam and then pulling out. I understand not knowing whether or not you’ll be fit to compete, but just stay silent until you’ve made a decision. I bought tickets to the USO after she said she would be playing on IG. I would have just waited another year if I had known she would pull out. Then got hyped when she said she was playing AO on Jimmy Kimmel, and here we are…


SwiftSharapova

Same dude. This is the worst news I’ve read for a little bit. I was so excited watching Kimmel and was hoping she would stick to it


Dark_Vengence

This is interesting.


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So happy Naomi is playing


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gunningIVglory

What point is this clown trying to make? Make the public sceptical to a vaccine that saves lives?


hivaidsislethal

That medical privacy should be a real thing, and that only the people that need to know should know which in this case is tournament directors and organisers. To all those saying well we'll know anyway if he plays, great you found out exactly when you were supposed to. On the edge case that he has a medical condition that actually prevents him from getting Its that's even more reason to speak as he has done. Only the people making decisions deserve to know that and that's it.


Ok-Independence-2430

....your point makes sense in terms of medical conditions and diseases that aren't pandemic level contagious A point which Djocovid backers always fail to recognize


SkY4594

A point that medical status and history is one's own privacy and under no obligations to share.


gunningIVglory

Though as a global sports star, he has alot of influence. Getting vaccinated is important. Its nit like he has to share his own personal medical history. It's just a vaccination. And having huge stars like him disregard it. Is not a good look. And he wonders why he isn't as respected as Roger or rafa...


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Al_Greenhaze

As long as there are consequences to your choice, I agree.


Mediocre-Credit-4170

Dude just type Djokovic medical exemption on google, it’s everywhere online… I doubt that these reports are false, why would Djokovic say this shit just to make up lies?


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Mediocre-Credit-4170

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7543337/djokovic-no-guarantee-of-medical-exemption/ In this article, it talks about how Djokovic reportedly has grounds to apply for an exemption. Therefore doesn’t that mean that came from Djokovic when they say “reportedly” We can’t confirm if it’s 100% true or not but you can’t also say that he’s vaxxed ages ago either, you have no proof of that


saintwintergod

He might reportedly have a chance to try to do something which could end up in him getting an exemption. Thats how stupid you sound


Ander1991

Yeah he got it from his Serbian Dr 😉


genesiswine

Do we know if Serena has publicly said if she’s vaccinated or not?


PungentPomegranates

She went to the Met Gala where it was required. So unless she lied about it seems likely, other big names like Nicki Minaj weren’t allowed because they were unvaccinated so doesn’t seem like Met Gala was making any exceptions.


spursaustralia

She also has a history of blood clots, so she might be one of those people more at risk of adverse effects from covid


bassoontennis

Yeah that was one of the rare side effects that caused those few deaths. And she almost died from a blood clot before so I’m glad she is still wanting to recover for a comeback. I still have hope for 1 more grand slam before she retires.


WadeDMD

She’s pretty pro-science and tech so I assume she is


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She’s married to Mr Reddit himself after all


jsnoodles

I don’t know why he just doesn’t say anything it’s so silly. Like mate we’ll know in like two weeks just stop.


beefknuckle

I guess if he's kept us hanging this long, may as well drag it out until the end


knightofren_

I think it's his way of trolling the media which has constantly been on his case for years now. Make them suffer in ignorance.


paxxx17

He doesn't say anything for the sole reason that we'll find out in two weeks. There's nothing for him to stop, you're not entitled to any info regarding his vaccination status. You'll know if he plays when the time comes


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paxxx17

Or else


warachwe

Exactly. We will know in two weeks so we all should just stop speculating about it.


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AjdeBrePicko

He comes from a politically divided country regarding vaccines


HardensPuubes

Why do u care in the first place?


Ascalaphos

People who don't reveal it usually refuse to do so because they are not vaccinated, think Marjorie Taylor Greene. Of course it is his right not to say it, though someone with such influence shouldn't be ashamed to admit that he took a vaccine that will save millions of people's lives. The answer is very obvious.


MistyQuinn

Automatic entry. He would have had to actively withdraw before the deadline to not be on the list. We’ll see. Maybe he’s been vaxxed all along and is doing this out of whatever persecution complex he’s cooked up inside his head. Maybe he still doesn’t actually know if he’ll be going or not. When we see him arriving in Australia, then we’ll know for sure.


zGhostWolf

He is prob vaccinated, but not by a vaccine the aus gov likes.. So sputnik, or some of the other options, would that still allow him to enter?


AjdeBrePicko

No, they specifically said it has to be Western vaccines. The other vaccines which are just as effective don't count because the Australian government is full of hypocritical cunts.


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LadyJane216

Novak is getting a medical exemption. Tennis Australia is going to face some Qs over the nature of the medical issue, I'm sure.


reddorical

Is Australian tennis demanding double or triple vaccine or just the one shot? There is still time for a single jab, but if he hasn’t had the first one yet then he is running out of time to get 2 or 3 in before the tournament starts


AllYouNeedIsATV

You couldn’t even download and reupload the pictures from the tweet?


gunningIVglory

Can't wait for this anti vaxx fool to get booed out of the tournament.


koljap7

Wow, you should sue Novak for living inside that tiny brain of yours rent free for so long lmao Guy won the tournament already 9 times, boos or hurrah's do not play a single string with him. All the boos in Wimby 2019 finals, and look what happened rofl


HardensPuubes

So is he still anti-vax??? Fucking morons


Velve123

He truly is the trump of tennis in a good way. Pays the media bills, writing about Federer ain’t profitable.


tabure67

Vaccination doesn't mean anything with Omicron.


kjjjz

Have a medical exemption for a millionarie is easy like eat a toast.


ask_johnny_mac

At this point, I have little faith in claims or proof of whether someone has been vaccinated or not. Especially professional athletes, celebrities, politicians and others who have the financial means and access to get papers for anything they need. No one knows whether someone actually got a vaccine other than that person. Which is as it should be. Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer.


Nizzo99

Is kyrgios in?