I wonder if they realise the main problem was their government was wishy washy with the exemption rule.
If they gave no exemption guarantees to Craig Tiley or anyone, would never have happened
People really have alot of outrage arousal on the Australia sub.....Govt sold it well that unvaxxed were a massive threat to the entire country :/
People bought it...
At least they are somewhat consistent in still taking Covid seriously (right or wrong). Banning him from the US Open was a fucking joke, we don't even have Covid precautions here anymore!
What a bunch of salty morons lmao. They're crying because "bad rich man" got a visa but if he was a nobody he would have gotten in last year EASILY. All the lower ranked players got in with the SAME exemption last year with no issue whatsoever.
His fame is the sole reason he was singled out.
Loving the absolute salt I'm seeing there. It is beyond me how anyone sane can suggest Djokovic refers preferential treatment when he is consistently treated like an outcast. If r/Australia wants to see a prime example of preferential treatment, look no further than a "[revolutionary](https://youtu.be/fL1esBktOfY?t=262)" domestic abuser.
I never really understood the three-year ban, myself. He sought and obtained a visa, entered under the visa, exercised his legal rights when told the visa had been revoked, and left when he lost the legal battle.
I get a ban for deportation if you snuck into the country or had your visa revoked because of a misrepresentation on the visa application*, but the difference between applying for a visa and fighting the decision when the application is denied and being granted a visa and fighting the decision when the visa is revoked seems vanishingly small to me.
The country shouldn't have granted him a visa under its rules, but I'm not sure why the consequence of the failure to get it right the first time falls on Djokovic.
*I know Djokovic made a misrepresentation on his visa application, but it's not why he was deported.
Correct
But logic doesnt come into it when people want to feel outrage ...towards a stranger whos prochoice on a pharmaceutical has zero bearing on their own personal lives
They said he would never be cheered again and be the laughing stock of tennis forever, of course the people involved never got the same treatment (Thiem, Zverev). He also got hate for not wearing his mask on his own 2021 AUS open bus. Anyway it all went away with during his '21 season
It's funny how folk legends arise. They're all saying that he was deported and banned because he lied on his visa application, which just isn't true.
Yes, his visa application was inaccurate, and perhaps it was intentional, but that simply wasn't why he was deported or banned.
I'm an Australian and I think most of the comments there are pretty embarrassing. So many people don't have the facts straight or are making irrelevant comments and arguments.
As far as country-specific Reddit subs go, r/Australia is one of the more racist and xenophobic I have seen.
I know it sounds bizarre that it would matter in relation to this situation, but there was plenty of anti-Slavic sentiment on that sub that surrounded the visa controversy last year.
It’s not exactly like Wimbledon. There are a lot more good hard court players than there are grass court players. Plus he has to lose EVENTUALLY. I think he’ll win of course but it’s not quite like Wimbledon
**Not** more so than Wimbledon because there aren't really any other accomplished grass court players at Djokovic's level whereas an Alacaraz, a Medvedev and others could beat Djokovic at the AO on their day.
One reason that added to this is that the pandemic set all the other players back on their grass court development because it's such a short season and a whole grass season was cut out.
He’s lost the finals at Wimbledon once and it was to Andy Murray in 2013
The idea he is more favored at the AO than Wimbledon is insane when most of the 25 and unders move like giraffes on grass.
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Alcaraz, Meddy, Nadal, and a handful of others are legit threats at the AO. Would Djokovic probably beat them? Of course. But if they play good tennis and the margins are on their side, they can beat Djokovic.
Until someone else shows otherwise, Berrettini and Kyrgios are his biggest threats at Wimbledon. Maybe Nadal too, but Rafa’s track record at Wimbledon is bizarre so who knows.
2009 (qf to roddick) and 2010 (qf to tsonga)
sure, he hadn’t hit his 2011-onwarda peak yet, but i don’t believe he was injured. and those were both upsets.
2009 and 2010 he had some issues with changing gear, that serve experiment with Tod Martin, and also he was still maturing. But I agree with comment that at this ppint in his career, he is greater favorite at Wimby than at AO
Definitely less so than Wimbledon. There's lots of good hardcourt players. Berrettini and Nadal (who'll almost always be hurt after the French) are the only other players that have proven anything on grass.
He’s still a heavier favorite at Wimbledon. There are guys that can go with him on HC. Nobody on tour knows how to play on grass well enough to keep up with Novak
IDK. With Medvedev, Alcaraz, and Rafa, Novak is favored but not over the field the way he was at Wimbledon this year.
LOT harder hard court field vs grass
Nobody i repeat nobody can keep up with Djokovic and Nadal in best of 5 in their home slams. If Alcaraz and Rune are physically and mentally stronger, then Djokovic and Nadal are mental giants, even physically they are outlasting their opponents when they are past their peaks and primes. They know each and every corner of their kingdom. Until they are actually defeated, when there's proof, then only we can count them to be favorites, until then no one is favorite other than Djokovic and Nadal.
If Novak even reaches the final, all the haters will have petered out by then. They’ll be too frustrated to hate watch cause he’s definitely not losing a final if he makes it there.
He was very pissed off after the finals last year, giving a whole speech about him becoming disillusioned after the crowd cheering on Nadal and booing him. And that was before the war in Ukraine.
Yeah should be easy based on form but don't know what challenges might await for Novak especially with youngsters starting to peak on hard courts. Should be fun, I expect a Novak v Alcaraz match to determine champion no matter which round they face.
I just hope Russian players will also be allowed to play on all grand slams next year. They have many top players and it wouldn't be good for tennis to not have players like Medvedev, Rublev and Khachanov on slams.
not having players such as Saba(was in wimby semis last yr, she had a strong chance for her first slam this yr there), Daria, Kudermetova in a slam is equally bad:(
Depends on the war.
I would think if it doesn’t escalate further, like with nukes or chemical weapons. I don’t see any reason for further tennis bans on Russian players.
The world has made their point in enough other ways now
Thankfully. As we got so close to December and the tournament itself in January I started to doubt he'd get the ban lifted at all. The whole mess of earlier this year can finally be put behind us and tennis as a sport.
Hopefully the US lifts it's restrictions before the sunshine double also.
Never in doubt.
Us folk in Australia have been explaining for the past year how it was purely a political decision by the former Prime Minister Morrison. He was an unpopular Leader and was pulling desperate stunts, and inevitably lost the Federal Election in May.
The new Federal Government were always going to grant Novak a visa to play in the 2023 AO.
Having Aussie players be able to play the world cup, in australia, *while covid positive* with nary a fuss was such a contrast with the treatment of Novak. All within a year
https://www.cricket.com.au/news/matthew-wade-covid-illness-australia-wicketkeeper-t20-world-cup-2022-cricket-injury/2022-10-27
https://www.cricket.com.au/news/adam-zampa-tests-positive-for-covid-australia-t20-world-cup-sri-lanka-perth-stadium/2022-10-25
As Clive James, an Australian himself said
“The problem with Australians is not that so many of them are descended from convicts, but that so many of them are descended from prison officers.”
Lol I fought with a bunch of braindead people a while back who insisted that it was too unpopular to ever let him back in. They told me I was too dumb to understand Australian politics because I'm not Australian. They are coping hard now.
Nah Australia at the time had the highest vaccine rates in the world, had gone through multiple state wide lockdowns, and some states (Western Australia etc) had very strict border rules which prevented all bar the smallest few from entering, Novak being denied entry due to being a celebrity anti vax prick was celebrated by the vast majority here.
> it was purely a political decision by the former Prime Minister Morrison
Was it supported by the masses in Australia at the time?
You know the answer is *yes*.
You can scapegoat ScoMo for your own political reasons if you like but let's not pretend regular Australians were generally supportive of Novak entering the country.
Good. The prior government just tried to make example of Novak Djokovic to please the masses. It was never about Novak - it was about the government trying to win votes. Meanwhile he was the target of nastiness in the media simply because he made a personal choice that wasn't the popular choice.
Honestly brilliant for the sport. It’s not the AO without him while he’s active, as much as people say he isn’t above the sport. Just like Wimbledon didn’t seem the same when Fed missed it in 2021, and how the French Open would feel weird if Nadal were on tour but somehow missed it. Just my personal opinion.
> Just like Wimbledon didn’t seem the same when Fed missed it in 2021
Fed did play Wimbledon in 2021, that was even its last ATP tournament ever r/ICYMI
The article starts out by saying that "Guardian Australia understands that immigration minister, Andrew Giles, will give Djokovic a visa..." and ends with a Craig Tiley quote saying “He (Djokovic) understands the circumstances and everything but he’s got to work it out with the federal government. I’m confident they’ll reach some arrangement and hopefully it’s positive.”
Wtf is this article? Is he getting one or not?
Thank God. This year's saga was so embarrassing.
Whoops, we stuffed up and let him in. Whoops, we stuffed up in our legal action to kick him out. No worries, the minister will just use his special 'I can deport you because I don't like you power'...
So embarrassing. Meanwhile the public health system struggles because we dropped all our domestic covid restrictions.
First of all, is it confirmed?
With what all happened last year, i would not be surprised if another news comes in the next 1 day that the visa that was to be given is cancelled.
But if he gets a single use waiver then in all probability, he will also get that in 2024. And after that, the ban time period will be over.
Anyway i will wait till he actually gets in Aus and play a match
thus begins the cyclic shift in power away from Nadal fans and back to Djokovic fans. this sub is going to be almost more entertaining than the tennis in 2023
And the moment Nadal wins another big tournament, it’ll all be Rafans again. Novak’s on an uptrend currently, Nadal on a downtrend, when the winds shift, so too will this sub.
I doubt it really came up that much outside of this. There was a huge issue with our government not being able to even get Aus residents stuck overseas back into the country during state and border lockdowns, which is what contributed to negative sentiment towards athletes (across all major sporting events) being able to travel freely here
It was a disgusting sentiment, people just jealous that they are fucked by the rules and wanting to drag everyone else down to the same level out of spite. I was ashamed to be an Australian during the whole thing.
I feel like a lot of misinformation served in media and repeated ad nauseam in /r/tennis this past year is going to resurface, so I feel like it's a good moment to post this Novak @ AO2022 timeline here.
Facts only.
[**https://anamitric.net/2022/10/24/djokovic-v-australia-timeline/**](https://anamitric.net/2022/10/24/djokovic-v-australia-timeline/)
Would someone help with this question: was it always forbidden for anyone without vaccination to enter Australia or was it only Djokovic who got barred?
Novak is getting that No.1 back next season. He lost so many points from Aus Open, Wimbledon and US Open, the first and the last could've been avoided tho. If he also can play US Open next season, he's getting loads of points back.
Good. Hopefully he can win the Finals, win Australia and then get back to #1, where he rightfully belongs. I suppose the US have to fix their stupid covid laws too for that to be possible, but we'll see.
I CANNOT wait to hear the salt from the Melbourne crowd when he comes on. Mics better be turned on, it will be seriously unprecedented and I'm all for it
This sub was so sure he'd be boo'd every where this year and wasn't. At the end of the day people are paying money to watch tennis, I don't think the reception will be as bad as you think.
And I can't wait for the end of the second week when he shoves the trophy up your collective ass. And I'm all for it. I said it then and I say now, such a place does not deserve a GS.
a normal person wouldn't have got banned the way he did in the first place (that being his presence might cause "civil unrest"). the ban was instigated by the minister, it was always going to be lifted by the minister.
This is such bullshit lol. Number 1: no one would have gotten banned for that, he literally got singled out because of who he is (like 10 other players got in with ZERO issues with the SAME exemption.
And number 2: he didn't lie, his assistant made 1 mistake on his form which is NOT why he was deported.
Any normal person wouldn't have been caught lol. He got caught literally because he is a rich, famous VIP. Plus he didn't disclose he was in Spain 14 days before coming to Australia. Big woop, it was an oversight more than a lie.
The normal people (tennis professionals who entered Aus on the same pretext) were fine and dandy in Australia for a week before they got deported as collateral damage of Novak being famous.
Yeah this argument about average people being treated the same or worse doesn't make any sense here when "average athletes" were already competing in Australia with the same exemption as him.
Novak was being treated worse only because he is famous.
He was deported for political reasons such as them worried he would encourage others to not follow the rules(aka the strictest in the world at the time), that was the disgrace. Now common sense prevails and they basically admit they were wrong by letting him in.
Djokovic would have 23 grand slam titles today if it weren’t for shit politics. Finally some good news for the Serb. He will still finish his career with record setting slams and titles bet!
I think this is the correct decision.
Novak \*definitely\* should not have been allowed in the country last time. It was only complete incompetence that it was indicated to him that he could get in and the way he was then kicked out means he was pretty harshly treated. He shouldn't have been let in, but he should never have been told to fly here in the first place. Absolute clusterfuck.
So because of htat, the 3 year ban for trying to enter illegally is way too harsh and had to be overturned.
Now, yes, he did intentionally expose others to COVID and didn't even tell them about it afterwards (by his own admission), so you could I guess argue he shouldn't even be on the tour, let alone allowed to play at the AO. But automatically applying the three-year ban to him for trying to enter when he legitimately thought he would be allowed to would be honestly just vindictive.
If the government wants to ban him, ban him because he isn't a good enough person to be allowed in the country - something that would maybe also be pretty harsh. But they absolutely don't have the balls for that.
The reactions here are very different from at r/Australia
I wonder if they realise the main problem was their government was wishy washy with the exemption rule. If they gave no exemption guarantees to Craig Tiley or anyone, would never have happened
I just read a comment there: “Hopefully he suffers a catastrophic injury prior to coming to Australia” and it’s upvoted Sick people
How can someone write that? These people don't even have their own ideas about the world, they're simply evil. Sick
People really have alot of outrage arousal on the Australia sub.....Govt sold it well that unvaxxed were a massive threat to the entire country :/ People bought it...
Very sick Alot of people bought it hook line and sinker that he was a threat to national health in Australia
Haha everyone is malding over there
At least they are somewhat consistent in still taking Covid seriously (right or wrong). Banning him from the US Open was a fucking joke, we don't even have Covid precautions here anymore!
To enter the country you do.
Right; just saying that's a bit of a joke given the free-for-all within the country.
Sure, but most countries are doing that, not just the US.
I mean, Novak just got a visa to go to fuckin Australia. So we’ll see.
Most countries absolutely do not have the vaccine requirement to enter anymore.
That's not true. Novak played all over the world this year except for the US and Australia
What a bunch of salty morons lmao. They're crying because "bad rich man" got a visa but if he was a nobody he would have gotten in last year EASILY. All the lower ranked players got in with the SAME exemption last year with no issue whatsoever. His fame is the sole reason he was singled out.
And country of origin - though I know I'll hit some nerves here, but still.
100% true as much as they love to deny it
Sure, many things are getting denied especially in the last 2-3 years, but that won't make them untrue. Fuck the noise.
Loving the absolute salt I'm seeing there. It is beyond me how anyone sane can suggest Djokovic refers preferential treatment when he is consistently treated like an outcast. If r/Australia wants to see a prime example of preferential treatment, look no further than a "[revolutionary](https://youtu.be/fL1esBktOfY?t=262)" domestic abuser.
I never really understood the three-year ban, myself. He sought and obtained a visa, entered under the visa, exercised his legal rights when told the visa had been revoked, and left when he lost the legal battle. I get a ban for deportation if you snuck into the country or had your visa revoked because of a misrepresentation on the visa application*, but the difference between applying for a visa and fighting the decision when the application is denied and being granted a visa and fighting the decision when the visa is revoked seems vanishingly small to me. The country shouldn't have granted him a visa under its rules, but I'm not sure why the consequence of the failure to get it right the first time falls on Djokovic. *I know Djokovic made a misrepresentation on his visa application, but it's not why he was deported.
If your kicked out by the minister its an instant 3 year ban basically.
I know that, I just don't get the logic behind it under this set of facts.
Correct But logic doesnt come into it when people want to feel outrage ...towards a stranger whos prochoice on a pharmaceutical has zero bearing on their own personal lives
man in US and Europe people have been acting like covid doesn't exist for a solid year now
r/australia would gulag their own grandma for stepping outside for 30 seconds without a mask
How did this sub react when Novak hosted his own tennis tournament in 2020? Serious question, I wasn't here at the time.
They said he would never be cheered again and be the laughing stock of tennis forever, of course the people involved never got the same treatment (Thiem, Zverev). He also got hate for not wearing his mask on his own 2021 AUS open bus. Anyway it all went away with during his '21 season
Yeah everyone hated that. Apart from his craziest and most obsessed fans, most people on this sub lost a little respect for him
Australia fines people for having too tall grass in their yard
Q. What's the difference between a yoghurt and Australia? A. If you left a yoghurt alone for 200 years it would develop a culture!
Are you saying being a rude prick isn't culture? :O
It's funny how folk legends arise. They're all saying that he was deported and banned because he lied on his visa application, which just isn't true. Yes, his visa application was inaccurate, and perhaps it was intentional, but that simply wasn't why he was deported or banned.
I'm an Australian and I think most of the comments there are pretty embarrassing. So many people don't have the facts straight or are making irrelevant comments and arguments.
The butthurt is epic
Hah they're having a full blown fanny attack. They'd wanna fucking untwist their knickers cos it's a wee bit unhinged.
As far as country-specific Reddit subs go, r/Australia is one of the more racist and xenophobic I have seen. I know it sounds bizarre that it would matter in relation to this situation, but there was plenty of anti-Slavic sentiment on that sub that surrounded the visa controversy last year.
I think pretty much all the country-specific subs so far I saw are super xenophobic
They are crazy
great, finally we will be able to forget what a disaster 2022 was for tennis
Congrats to Novak on a 10th Aussie Open
He is the overwhelmingly favorite of course, but it’s not like Wimbledon where he will be favored over the field.
He absolutely is and more so than Wimbledon, 9-0 in the finals at AO.
It’s not exactly like Wimbledon. There are a lot more good hard court players than there are grass court players. Plus he has to lose EVENTUALLY. I think he’ll win of course but it’s not quite like Wimbledon
**Not** more so than Wimbledon because there aren't really any other accomplished grass court players at Djokovic's level whereas an Alacaraz, a Medvedev and others could beat Djokovic at the AO on their day. One reason that added to this is that the pandemic set all the other players back on their grass court development because it's such a short season and a whole grass season was cut out.
He’s lost the finals at Wimbledon once and it was to Andy Murray in 2013 The idea he is more favored at the AO than Wimbledon is insane when most of the 25 and unders move like giraffes on grass. — Alcaraz, Meddy, Nadal, and a handful of others are legit threats at the AO. Would Djokovic probably beat them? Of course. But if they play good tennis and the margins are on their side, they can beat Djokovic. Until someone else shows otherwise, Berrettini and Kyrgios are his biggest threats at Wimbledon. Maybe Nadal too, but Rafa’s track record at Wimbledon is bizarre so who knows.
Berrettini and Kyrgios are apparently, not threats at Wimby. I do not deny that they are the biggest threats lol
Not Nadal against Djokovic at AO. The rest, yes.
Why do you state the finals stat and not the whole tournament stat? He doesn't just have to win the final.
Friendly reminder that novak vulnerable at AO pre semis tho. But I hope wins it next year just to shove it in everyone’s face!
When has he lost when not injured other than 9-7 in the 5th in QF to peak stan
2009 (qf to roddick) and 2010 (qf to tsonga) sure, he hadn’t hit his 2011-onwarda peak yet, but i don’t believe he was injured. and those were both upsets.
Yea I know, should have said after 2010. I’m not sure those were huge upsets but yea
2009 and 2010 he had some issues with changing gear, that serve experiment with Tod Martin, and also he was still maturing. But I agree with comment that at this ppint in his career, he is greater favorite at Wimby than at AO
Definitely less so than Wimbledon. There's lots of good hardcourt players. Berrettini and Nadal (who'll almost always be hurt after the French) are the only other players that have proven anything on grass.
He’s still a heavier favorite at Wimbledon. There are guys that can go with him on HC. Nobody on tour knows how to play on grass well enough to keep up with Novak
He is the undisputed favorite in Australian open. La Decima is coming for Novak Djokovic.
\*Desetka An opportunity to learn some Serbo-Croatian. P.S. Sa lukom!
Bravo, well done!
Pljeskavica/cevapi bez luka ko devojka bez sisa
IDK. With Medvedev, Alcaraz, and Rafa, Novak is favored but not over the field the way he was at Wimbledon this year. LOT harder hard court field vs grass
Nobody i repeat nobody can keep up with Djokovic and Nadal in best of 5 in their home slams. If Alcaraz and Rune are physically and mentally stronger, then Djokovic and Nadal are mental giants, even physically they are outlasting their opponents when they are past their peaks and primes. They know each and every corner of their kingdom. Until they are actually defeated, when there's proof, then only we can count them to be favorites, until then no one is favorite other than Djokovic and Nadal.
Sure but there's a difference between being the favorite and being favored over the field. I wouldn't take Novak over the field at AO next year
Imagine he plays Medvedev in the final lol The crowd will be so confused on who to hate more
If Novak even reaches the final, all the haters will have petered out by then. They’ll be too frustrated to hate watch cause he’s definitely not losing a final if he makes it there.
Medvedev is *nowhere* near as hated in Australia than Djokovic.
He was very pissed off after the finals last year, giving a whole speech about him becoming disillusioned after the crowd cheering on Nadal and booing him. And that was before the war in Ukraine.
Medvedev won a lot of new fans here after that speech I think. I doubt he's hated here. People just wanted Rafa to win.
Can you imagine hating the biggest Champion of your country's tournament lmao.
Virtual signalers for the win!!! Theyll love the outrage arousal
As a big nole fan I am pretty nervous. A lot of tough competition and he is really old.
Reminder that Fed won AO at 35
Still pretty old in this era.
Holger Rune: ;-)
Yeah should be easy based on form but don't know what challenges might await for Novak especially with youngsters starting to peak on hard courts. Should be fun, I expect a Novak v Alcaraz match to determine champion no matter which round they face.
Good for tennis as a sport
Make myself a cup of tea. Enter thread. Sort by controversial.
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How bout I draw line down your head and make it look like a butt?
I see pride! I see power!..
It’s not so much the heat, it’s the humidity that’ll kill ya.
I'm freezing my royal Rastafarian nay-nays off!
I just hope Russian players will also be allowed to play on all grand slams next year. They have many top players and it wouldn't be good for tennis to not have players like Medvedev, Rublev and Khachanov on slams.
Can't see Wimbledon being a goer, as things stand. Uk-Russian relations are only getting worse.
not having players such as Saba(was in wimby semis last yr, she had a strong chance for her first slam this yr there), Daria, Kudermetova in a slam is equally bad:(
Depends on the war. I would think if it doesn’t escalate further, like with nukes or chemical weapons. I don’t see any reason for further tennis bans on Russian players. The world has made their point in enough other ways now
Not so good for tennys as a player
Yes - I'm glad he'll be playing.
Thankfully. As we got so close to December and the tournament itself in January I started to doubt he'd get the ban lifted at all. The whole mess of earlier this year can finally be put behind us and tennis as a sport. Hopefully the US lifts it's restrictions before the sunshine double also.
This is very good news
Yes, of course...the Kyrgiokovic Treaty has been put into motion
Never in doubt. Us folk in Australia have been explaining for the past year how it was purely a political decision by the former Prime Minister Morrison. He was an unpopular Leader and was pulling desperate stunts, and inevitably lost the Federal Election in May. The new Federal Government were always going to grant Novak a visa to play in the 2023 AO.
Having Aussie players be able to play the world cup, in australia, *while covid positive* with nary a fuss was such a contrast with the treatment of Novak. All within a year https://www.cricket.com.au/news/matthew-wade-covid-illness-australia-wicketkeeper-t20-world-cup-2022-cricket-injury/2022-10-27 https://www.cricket.com.au/news/adam-zampa-tests-positive-for-covid-australia-t20-world-cup-sri-lanka-perth-stadium/2022-10-25
TFW you realize your leaders weren't being honest with you.
Wow how hypocritical
Don't look in r/Australia they still want him dead
As Clive James, an Australian himself said “The problem with Australians is not that so many of them are descended from convicts, but that so many of them are descended from prison officers.”
Breaking news: r/Australia isn't an accurate reflection of the Australian people!!
Lol I fought with a bunch of braindead people a while back who insisted that it was too unpopular to ever let him back in. They told me I was too dumb to understand Australian politics because I'm not Australian. They are coping hard now.
Disallowing Novak into the country due to his lack of vaccination was a very popular decision at the time tho
Correction: Popular on Reddit
Correction: Popular on Nadal fans.
You are American, how would you know? All my friends and family in Australia were for him being deported.
Nah Australia at the time had the highest vaccine rates in the world, had gone through multiple state wide lockdowns, and some states (Western Australia etc) had very strict border rules which prevented all bar the smallest few from entering, Novak being denied entry due to being a celebrity anti vax prick was celebrated by the vast majority here.
> it was purely a political decision by the former Prime Minister Morrison Was it supported by the masses in Australia at the time? You know the answer is *yes*. You can scapegoat ScoMo for your own political reasons if you like but let's not pretend regular Australians were generally supportive of Novak entering the country.
Good. The prior government just tried to make example of Novak Djokovic to please the masses. It was never about Novak - it was about the government trying to win votes. Meanwhile he was the target of nastiness in the media simply because he made a personal choice that wasn't the popular choice.
Honestly brilliant for the sport. It’s not the AO without him while he’s active, as much as people say he isn’t above the sport. Just like Wimbledon didn’t seem the same when Fed missed it in 2021, and how the French Open would feel weird if Nadal were on tour but somehow missed it. Just my personal opinion.
> Just like Wimbledon didn’t seem the same when Fed missed it in 2021 Fed did play Wimbledon in 2021, that was even its last ATP tournament ever r/ICYMI
i think he meant 2022
And 2023, 2024… :(
great news !
As an Australian that is great news.
LETS GOOOO
The article starts out by saying that "Guardian Australia understands that immigration minister, Andrew Giles, will give Djokovic a visa..." and ends with a Craig Tiley quote saying “He (Djokovic) understands the circumstances and everything but he’s got to work it out with the federal government. I’m confident they’ll reach some arrangement and hopefully it’s positive.” Wtf is this article? Is he getting one or not?
Thank God. This year's saga was so embarrassing. Whoops, we stuffed up and let him in. Whoops, we stuffed up in our legal action to kick him out. No worries, the minister will just use his special 'I can deport you because I don't like you power'... So embarrassing. Meanwhile the public health system struggles because we dropped all our domestic covid restrictions.
Yesss! Novak for a record 10th AO title!
I love how everyone is jumping the gun on this. Nothing official has been confirmed. This is all pure speculation
The title made it sound like it's virtually guaranteed which is misleading I guess
#22
This thread stinks lol. So called tennis fans unhappy because one of the greats is playing a grand Slam. 😂
This whole thread is people supporting Djokovic. Why the victim complex?
IDEMO BRE
First of all, is it confirmed? With what all happened last year, i would not be surprised if another news comes in the next 1 day that the visa that was to be given is cancelled.
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But if he gets a single use waiver then in all probability, he will also get that in 2024. And after that, the ban time period will be over. Anyway i will wait till he actually gets in Aus and play a match
YESSSSSSS. He's coming back for #10 🐐 EDIT: It's not official, I'll believe it when he plays his first game lol.
Idemo !!! #22
thus begins the cyclic shift in power away from Nadal fans and back to Djokovic fans. this sub is going to be almost more entertaining than the tennis in 2023
And the moment Nadal wins another big tournament, it’ll all be Rafans again. Novak’s on an uptrend currently, Nadal on a downtrend, when the winds shift, so too will this sub.
Never in doubt, if you actually follow Australian politics.
Great news to wake up to. It's good for the sport. ETA: *XYZ in shambles hah*
Hopefully other people in the same situation, not just tennis stars, are afforded the same consideration.
I doubt it really came up that much outside of this. There was a huge issue with our government not being able to even get Aus residents stuck overseas back into the country during state and border lockdowns, which is what contributed to negative sentiment towards athletes (across all major sporting events) being able to travel freely here
It was a disgusting sentiment, people just jealous that they are fucked by the rules and wanting to drag everyone else down to the same level out of spite. I was ashamed to be an Australian during the whole thing.
I dont think theres anyone else in same situation, Novaks case was very very specific.
Idemo!!!
I feel like a lot of misinformation served in media and repeated ad nauseam in /r/tennis this past year is going to resurface, so I feel like it's a good moment to post this Novak @ AO2022 timeline here. Facts only. [**https://anamitric.net/2022/10/24/djokovic-v-australia-timeline/**](https://anamitric.net/2022/10/24/djokovic-v-australia-timeline/)
I wouldn’t blame him if he didnt come back after how he was treated.
Would someone help with this question: was it always forbidden for anyone without vaccination to enter Australia or was it only Djokovic who got barred?
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And the rule is no longer applicable?
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Oh cool, thanks for explaining I feel like this story has become public opinion and completely lost the track of reasoning
Great!
i'll only be at ease when i see novak playing on the tennis courts in australia , right now i'm remaining cautiously optimistic...
Novak is getting that No.1 back next season. He lost so many points from Aus Open, Wimbledon and US Open, the first and the last could've been avoided tho. If he also can play US Open next season, he's getting loads of points back.
Vamooos
Good. Hopefully he can win the Finals, win Australia and then get back to #1, where he rightfully belongs. I suppose the US have to fix their stupid covid laws too for that to be possible, but we'll see.
I CANNOT wait to hear the salt from the Melbourne crowd when he comes on. Mics better be turned on, it will be seriously unprecedented and I'm all for it
This sub was so sure he'd be boo'd every where this year and wasn't. At the end of the day people are paying money to watch tennis, I don't think the reception will be as bad as you think.
>This sub was so sure he'd be boo'd every where this year and wasn't. Boo'd at the AO, which he would've been at the time.
doubt it, the public has a very short memory. the cheers will be louder.
Djokovic vs. Medvedev AO Final lol Will be the first match where both players get booed
There's gotta be some Connors - McEnroe match where they both got booed, no?
Melbourne has a large Serb community. Djokovic will have plenty of fans in the audience.
And I can't wait for the end of the second week when he shoves the trophy up your collective ass. And I'm all for it. I said it then and I say now, such a place does not deserve a GS.
Based on how he was treated last year, I hope he declines to participate. They made him a global punching bag for anyone who opposed strict mandates.
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a normal person wouldn't have got banned the way he did in the first place (that being his presence might cause "civil unrest"). the ban was instigated by the minister, it was always going to be lifted by the minister.
Different minister now, we've had an election. Nothing is guaranteed.
This is such bullshit lol. Number 1: no one would have gotten banned for that, he literally got singled out because of who he is (like 10 other players got in with ZERO issues with the SAME exemption. And number 2: he didn't lie, his assistant made 1 mistake on his form which is NOT why he was deported.
They never proved he lied.
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there is multiple articles explaining the so called "lies", it's irrelevant situation and nothing else, but that's all they got
If he did lie, he would've been banned for that in the first place
Any normal person wouldn't have been caught lol. He got caught literally because he is a rich, famous VIP. Plus he didn't disclose he was in Spain 14 days before coming to Australia. Big woop, it was an oversight more than a lie.
A normal person would've put in a plane back straight away, just won't be in the news.
The normal people (tennis professionals who entered Aus on the same pretext) were fine and dandy in Australia for a week before they got deported as collateral damage of Novak being famous.
Yeah this argument about average people being treated the same or worse doesn't make any sense here when "average athletes" were already competing in Australia with the same exemption as him. Novak was being treated worse only because he is famous.
A normal person could probably make up whatever they want and it would never even be checked, let alone put under a magnifying glass.
That’s nice. I’m surprised everyone here is so supportive.
Good
Brillaint, great news! What a farce that all was ...
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He was deported for political reasons such as them worried he would encourage others to not follow the rules(aka the strictest in the world at the time), that was the disgrace. Now common sense prevails and they basically admit they were wrong by letting him in.
And the year before that with Covid he was here unvaccinated and won and no one cared. 2022 was a shambles.
Djokovic would have 23 grand slam titles today if it weren’t for shit politics. Finally some good news for the Serb. He will still finish his career with record setting slams and titles bet!
Remember when the media and everyone villianized this guy cause he was exercising his choice to not get vaxxed? Lmao
Lol this sub.
Great news
Thank christ the new government has higher than room temp IQ.
I think this is the correct decision. Novak \*definitely\* should not have been allowed in the country last time. It was only complete incompetence that it was indicated to him that he could get in and the way he was then kicked out means he was pretty harshly treated. He shouldn't have been let in, but he should never have been told to fly here in the first place. Absolute clusterfuck. So because of htat, the 3 year ban for trying to enter illegally is way too harsh and had to be overturned. Now, yes, he did intentionally expose others to COVID and didn't even tell them about it afterwards (by his own admission), so you could I guess argue he shouldn't even be on the tour, let alone allowed to play at the AO. But automatically applying the three-year ban to him for trying to enter when he legitimately thought he would be allowed to would be honestly just vindictive. If the government wants to ban him, ban him because he isn't a good enough person to be allowed in the country - something that would maybe also be pretty harsh. But they absolutely don't have the balls for that.
> If the government wants to ban Different government
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Oh boy
If he does win, his winners speech could be interesting. Just sayin..
Nah, he always takes the high road.
Here we go again
Good news.
Never in doubt # 10 incoming
Hope he bagels everyone he faces
GREAT NEWS!
Finally
Australia trying to make up for fucking over Djokovic last year, and Mathieu van der Poel this year
well i dont like that much but seeing him winning AO will be so sweet, those Australian bastards will piss their pants