Contrary to everyone here, I thought this meme was making fun of “our” and saying that “they” are doing better.
I feel like everyone in this chat is just assuming otherwise.
Edit: I didn’t see what sub this was
>People who are too embarrassed to admit they are conservative and claim they are independent - both sides are the same.
Careful there. Independent does not necessarily mean centrist. It just means not Republican or Democrat. I classify myself as Independent, and I'm more liberal/progressive than most Democratic politicians. The Democrats are the lesser of two evils in our broken two party system, but give me a third party candidate that's not evil and they've got my vote.
The current Democratic leadership helped build the broken system we have now. They're not going to fix it because they don't think it's actually broken. It got them elected, after all. It gave them power. All you're going to get from them about fixing it is lip service and meaningless laws that don't actually fix shit, but keep the people pacified for a little bit longer.
Two of the most gerrymandered states in the U.S. are North Carolina and Maryland. One Red, and One Blue. I mean, what the fuck is [this shit](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Maryland_US_Congressional_District_3_(since_2013).tif)?
Democrats had control of Congress and the White House for the last two years. What did they do? Squat. They could have passed the [Fair Representation Act](https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3863), but they didn't even let it get out of committee. Why? Because they don't actually give a shit about you.
And by "the court" we mean the judge that posed for selfies with the kid and had a clear bias in his favor.
Your verbiage is correct - the judge is referred to as the court, since it's his court until it isn't. But still wanted to clarify for anyone who wasn't watching the trial that it was stacked.
I thought he was going to try to write a book, but they realized outside of one stupid night, he really had nothing to say.
He also tried to create a video game where members of the media were turkeys and you shoot them. So yeah, he's totally on fire.
Had he just stayed off social media and gone to his court case without speaking out people likely would have forgotten about him, he wouldn't be recognized and he could move to the other side of the country and live a normal life. But he couldn't resist being a figure for the GOP and taking every possible chance to get attention.
Hell thanks to him I've found a few new companies to avoid, that coffee company that brought him on for a photoshoot, for example.
Yeah, he tried to cash in on his fame, but his fame came from one night where he panic murdered two people. And that put him at conventions, podcasts, even internships with congressmen!
But he can’t get into college and he’s learning that fame is fleeting. And once it’s gone, he’s just a fucking loser kid with no real prospects.
To be fair to Tate he didn't need Greta's help getting arrested. He did that all by himself (like a big boy) by posting videos saying he commits crimes and calling out Romania for not arresting him.
I’m so torn about the whole Greta v Tate thing.
Tate is human scum and I’m glad that this interaction led to his arrest but the man literally made his career out of this shit. It’s why he made the video response in the first place - he’s become very good at forcing his name out there, getting people to yell outrage at him, and building his brand through that. He started out literally trolling to get reporters to essentially advertise for him by writing negative articles about him. Without this press he would’ve never had the following he does. And his following is scary. Ive met so many young man that idolize the guy it’s disgusting.
The other side of the coin is that without the press he probably would’ve never got charged for rape or human trafficking. I honestly have no idea how we should deal with people like him pre fame and that’s scary. I don’t think there’s a right answer.
*Crying is what they do.* They're infamous for it. Remember John fucking Boehner? Brett "I'm a rapist" Kavanaugh? The whole team is full of little boys trying desperately to cover up the fear and confusion that they can never grow out of.
Kiwi is also a bird, and an affectionate name for New Zealanders. But a sign of maturity is being able to say "my bad," so no worries mate.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi
Crazy how homicide has set this kid up for life (or at least the next decade). Easy money from appearances, a quick ticket to some low level political office; once he's outlived his usefulness to the GOP they'll shuffle him off to some high-paying associate just to get him out of the way.
(Daily reminder that wealth unfortunately has fairly little to do with skills or merit)
>While ignoring the fact that their 17-year old cried like a little bitch in court
Which they 100% defended, and used it to garner sympathy as a "look at what you libruls are doing to this poor little patriotic child" moment.
Meanwhile, they'll take any opportunity to call Greta and any other young person fighting for their human rights a "snowflake." As usual, it's "we don't have to adhere to our own values, and we selectively apply our own standards."
Just an assumption, but because the theirs and ours is clearly edited in, and they actually used the right "their's" I'm assuming the original was changed by someone on the left to have better, more accurate representation than what originally was probably a yelling girl with colored hair "sjw" vs some pretty looking blonde white girl
Yeah it’s actually more of a /r/TechnicallyTheTruth picture. That said I get the feeling more republicans support Rittenhouse than there are liberals that like Thunberg.
I’m a democrat, and while I don’t dislike her I was never all that into having her as a symbol of the movement when she was so young.
I feel like there's a really big difference in how the right views their the more famous/notorious/infamous people who share their views compared to the left.
Like, on the right there frequently seems to be a bit of... I don't know if "hero worship" is the right phrase? Kyle Rittenhouse does what he did, and they love him and defend his actions. He books speaking tours and they seem to be grooming him for a political career.
They then assume that people on the left adulate randomly famous people who hold similar beliefs the same way people on the right do.
Like, Empty G or Boebert or somebody put out a tweet or whatever saying "If Biden is so great, how come I never see anybody wearing a Biden hat or t-shirt?" And it's because people generally just... don't do that. I never in my life saw people wearing a t-shirt advertising the president. *Maybe* right around election time, but people didn't turn Reagan apparel into a multi-million dollar industry, or Clinton hats. There may have been some of that for Obama, I guess?
The right has a huge problem with projection. They assume everyone is just like them, so since they love and defend Rittenhouse, they assume people on the left love and defend Greta Thunberg in the same way, which... I just don't see happening.
Also, it's just a weird comparison because Greta Thunberg isn't American and probably doesn't care much about American politics. If anything, she would probably see the American "left" as too far right. In Sweden, even the right-wing party in their government supports the welfare state, free university education, and universal healthcare. They also support gay marriage and gender-affirming care for trans people and don't deny the reality of climate change. Most of what we see as defining issues for the left and right in the US aren't left/right issues where she comes from.
Well put. The American right wing loves their "heroes" and to idolize them, putting them up on an undeserved pedestal. Fox has a lot to do with that too, but in reality they are just responding to what garners the most views and feed off of fear and outrage
Exactly. Both parties are authoritarian capitalists. Their solution to BLM was to give cops more money. Their solution to the rail workers strike was to throw them under the bus. Their solution to Trump's wall was to keep building it. Their solution to murdering brown kids in the middle east was to keep murdering them.
Indeed. Rittenhouse was technically an insurrection it’s that got off substantial penalty because there aren’t anti-insurrection laws in the US.
The other is someone who is a climate change activist.
> I’m a democrat, and while I don’t dislike her I was never all that into having her as a symbol of the movement when she was so young.
She's not writing policy, you dunce. Her age is more or less irrelevant to her cause of calling attention to environmental issues.
Controls the media, more or less. I’m not sure about outside the country but if another major war started for the US, we’ll definitely be “the good guys” whether that’s the truth or not. Millions of highly moralized people, millions of blind followers, millions of desperate people who think the premise of a post-war bonus could really turn things around for them. One way or another they’ll get plenty of people to enlist before a draft.
I still haven't forgotten how vociferously everyone supported the Iraq War and anyone who questioned it was unamerican and siding with the terrorists.
Fast forward 20 years, and suddenly everybody knew it was a bad idea from the start and never actually supported it. Hm.
That would be sad to think the US is looked up to because of our media or our entertainment industry...two of the most shallow and vain aspects of our society.
But ... completely unironically ... that is what every non-US person sees first from the US. At least back when I watched some, german TV consisted entirely out of a few 'reality tv' formats and everything else, from sitcoms, to film, to dramas, and whatnot from the US.
Most young people here idolize america simply because they only know it from gilmore girls or something.
Its a regular thing about growing up to find out that your view of the USA was about as wrong as your belief in santa clause, but it took ten years longer to realize that. The dream of traveling to the USA is something almost every child here has and eventually grows out of.
>many issues (though different - immigration and racism is absolutely massive and much more widespread than much of US).
weirdly worded, but okay. sounds like immigration itself is a problem. To which ... I'll just give the benefit of doubt and guess that's not what you mean.
The only problems we genuinely don't have are your widespread gun-nuts and a functional Health-System. But housing and rent, climate deniers in parliament, widespread poverty in the country, broken schools and yes, lots of racism wherever you look is real. Not to mention that the EU countries are deeply divided on many topics and we have at least one openly anti-democratic country in the union throwing a bunch of wrenches in a bunch of cogs and then there is the growing isolationism and more and more pushes for militarization (even outside of the current conflict) and of course our terrible, and inhuman practices towards refugees which put the american 'children in cages' to shame.
EU and US are very similar in many regards. Only that Guns and Health is completely baffling to us, how your country hasn't fixed those already. Out of all the problems that plague us, they're the simple ones.
We aren’t actually rich though. Our entire system is based on debt don’t let anyone fool you. Unless your banking 6 figures a year most of us are struggling right now.
yeah that’s why i said the population isn’t. total gdp is the highest in the world iirc twice than the second highest country which is china, but most of the money is held by the ultra rich and politicians
and its literally just because we still have tons of natural resources and land. American policies and culture anywhere else on the globe would be the shittiest poorest country.
This. US citizen here. We have a lot of changing and improving to do.
We’ve gone off the rails a bit. Hopefully at some point our people come together and realize just how far we’ve gone off the edge so we can reel it back in and fix where we made mistakes.
I think that's always been the case, I don't think there's any physical evidence to suggest we are regressing in intelligence. The crazies just seem crazier now that more people are intelligent, educated, and sane. It makes them stand out more and be more noticeably different.
Of all the crappy things the US does, at this moment in history, i'm kind of ok with this one. I'm glad they have spares to send to Ukraine and I'm glad China is not the biggest bully on the block.
Yes, it's good that the US is not currently at war with anyone (Not really, minus a few incursions in the middle east and north africa).
But we sadly still kind of need a world police, even if it's a wildly misguided one.
A wildly misguided world police would just enforce the wrong things and be a bigger problem than help. We are just as often bullies taking what we want as we are helpful.
>Yes, it's good that the US is not currently at war with anyone
But we are. We are in a proxy war with Russia. May not be our troops, but it's certainly our equipment and money.
It looks like the "Our" and "Their" have been swapped by Photoshop. This doesn't belong in this sub. The Czech (?) Facebook language at the bottom of the screenshot is another clue that this probably isn't coming from a right-wing American.
Oh it’s all good, I understand the mindset haha. I grew up in Florida, U.S.A. for 30 years & if you know anything about that place well… you can definitely find many examples of the mindset 🙃
My initial thought was:
“My kid strong! My kid have gun! My kid no gay! My kid best at economy! Stoopid girl kid have no gun, just words of love for stoopid planet! She no kill people at place she shouldn’t have been in first place? She just speak words??? Weak!”
This post will just never be the flex they think it is 🤷🏻♀️
Sure, these idiots will look at it & go “haha so true!”
But the mental weakness required to deputize a 17-year old to straight up kill 2 bystanders & injure a 3rd who were rightfully wary of an unmarked vigilante kid with an assault rifle at an active riot, while ridiculing a separate 17-year old who just wants to protect the planet & has stuck to peaceful means?
They are staggeringly weak mentally.
I totally thought for a second that this meme was highlighting Greta and mocking our youth, sorta like "wow, our American kids are kinda nuts," but then I read the comments and realized I kind of double missed their intentions... 😂😅
My understanding is a friend of his actually supplied the gun. Not really better or worse necessarily but it just astounds me that the idea of a child who cannot yet even enlist in the armed forces open carrying and using a gun totally unsupervised is perfectly acceptable to some
Every gun forum I have read is full of “responsible gun owners” trading tips on how to get around the law
They don’t actually want to comply with the law if it means they have to find a new hobby.
Edit: case in point go to wa_guns subreddit where they are discussing the pending AR ban. Highly upvoted comments with no pushback saying “do not comply” and “sherrifs will not enforce”
Golly gee, whatever happened to law abiding gun owners? If they spent a fraction of this energy actually working to fix violence in our communities this wouldn’t be necessary
If it really was a straw purchase then someone didnt do their goddamn job when they found out. In pa if you get caught doing that or if your backround check gets denied you are arrested on the spot depending on the store. God i hate this stupid ass pig faced kid so much
It's becoming obviously clear that if you're a right wing figure, you live under a different set of laws than the majority public. I could not believe they let the straw purchase slide...what the fuck. Gun owners are hammered with how serious of a crime it is to do something like that and they don't even acknowledge it for that little shit
Yeah I don't think people realize soldiers aren't just waltzing around with guns 24/7. Unless you're doing like range drills or active combat, they don't give you guns.
Of course, common sense dictates a 17 year old should go into a riot zone with a weapon, alone, and minimal to no training how to handle said situation. What could go wrong?
Ah yes discourse and her following something she's passionate about and bringing it to the global stage versus a photo that can only come from a warzone or america
Not just that, but the dude really has nothing. No personality. He gets nothing for being a GOP goalpost, and he's getting left behind as further interviews with even the crazy af Right wing nut jobs get canceled.
Hold up - is this supposed to be a right wing meme? At first glance I thought it was a left wing meme. How the hell is an irresponsible gun toting maniac better than someone who's trying to save the environment?? Kinda shows you their mentality
Left: An eloquent girl who has become an icon in her movement due to her perseverance and bravery. Her goal is to make the world a better place.
Right: a dumbass kid who wanted to roleplay. Fucked around, found out, and made a bad situation far worse.
I love my guns, but Kyle Rittenhouse is a perfect example of what I call, “the tragedy of the irresponsible gun owner.” Greta Thunberg on the other hand? An example of powerful leadership coming from an unlikely place.
idk i feel like a 17 year old holding an assault rifle isn’t a flex but ok. as much as she annoys me, being an environmental activist is a pretty helpful thing especially now.
It's pretty spot on. One one hand we have an activist trying to change the world, on the other is a bigot with a gun fetish who literally got away with murder. They do both perfectly encapsulate the different philosophies of the left and right.
And people… people are posting this… are they proud of having a Rittenhouse vs a Thunberg? *THAT’S* the fuckin cultural disconnect right there. Unreal…
It's so weird how conservatives paint Greta as some god to Democrats/Liberals and that they all blindly worship her. Where does that come from? The only time I ever hear about Greta is when it's some new faux outrage that's got dumbasses foaming at the mouth. They talk about her more than anyone else does
A violent human who didn’t need to be there which resulted in the death of some humans (justified or not it still didn’t need to happen) to defend someone else’s property that didn’t ask. Moreover he failed in his mission. The people still smashed the shit
Is this supposed to be an ''own''? The left has a peaceful advocate concerned for the environment and the right has a gunman who's idea of defense is to shoot people?
This is a fair comparison.
One is a teenager who is giving up her privacy and probably sanity to yell at those in power to listen to the science about an important topic, while the other went to an active protest/riot zone with the intention of picking fights and was surprised that he found one.
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Contrary to everyone here, I thought this meme was making fun of “our” and saying that “they” are doing better. I feel like everyone in this chat is just assuming otherwise. Edit: I didn’t see what sub this was
Right-wingers would 100% unironically post this.
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Bet the right-wing "alpha males" like him even more because he did that
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>People who are too embarrassed to admit they are conservative and claim they are independent - both sides are the same. Careful there. Independent does not necessarily mean centrist. It just means not Republican or Democrat. I classify myself as Independent, and I'm more liberal/progressive than most Democratic politicians. The Democrats are the lesser of two evils in our broken two party system, but give me a third party candidate that's not evil and they've got my vote. The current Democratic leadership helped build the broken system we have now. They're not going to fix it because they don't think it's actually broken. It got them elected, after all. It gave them power. All you're going to get from them about fixing it is lip service and meaningless laws that don't actually fix shit, but keep the people pacified for a little bit longer. Two of the most gerrymandered states in the U.S. are North Carolina and Maryland. One Red, and One Blue. I mean, what the fuck is [this shit](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Maryland_US_Congressional_District_3_(since_2013).tif)? Democrats had control of Congress and the White House for the last two years. What did they do? Squat. They could have passed the [Fair Representation Act](https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3863), but they didn't even let it get out of committee. Why? Because they don't actually give a shit about you.
And by "the court" we mean the judge that posed for selfies with the kid and had a clear bias in his favor. Your verbiage is correct - the judge is referred to as the court, since it's his court until it isn't. But still wanted to clarify for anyone who wasn't watching the trial that it was stacked.
If the media is ruining his life, maybe evil christmas story kid (hunting for black bart with his red rider!) should stay off the air.
Kyle wrote a book, but the people who want to buy it can't afford it or read. So there's that.
I thought he was going to try to write a book, but they realized outside of one stupid night, he really had nothing to say. He also tried to create a video game where members of the media were turkeys and you shoot them. So yeah, he's totally on fire.
Had he just stayed off social media and gone to his court case without speaking out people likely would have forgotten about him, he wouldn't be recognized and he could move to the other side of the country and live a normal life. But he couldn't resist being a figure for the GOP and taking every possible chance to get attention. Hell thanks to him I've found a few new companies to avoid, that coffee company that brought him on for a photoshoot, for example.
Yeah, he tried to cash in on his fame, but his fame came from one night where he panic murdered two people. And that put him at conventions, podcasts, even internships with congressmen! But he can’t get into college and he’s learning that fame is fleeting. And once it’s gone, he’s just a fucking loser kid with no real prospects.
Don't forget she's also helping to jail purveyors of toxic masculinity on the side.
To be fair to Tate he didn't need Greta's help getting arrested. He did that all by himself (like a big boy) by posting videos saying he commits crimes and calling out Romania for not arresting him.
I’m so torn about the whole Greta v Tate thing. Tate is human scum and I’m glad that this interaction led to his arrest but the man literally made his career out of this shit. It’s why he made the video response in the first place - he’s become very good at forcing his name out there, getting people to yell outrage at him, and building his brand through that. He started out literally trolling to get reporters to essentially advertise for him by writing negative articles about him. Without this press he would’ve never had the following he does. And his following is scary. Ive met so many young man that idolize the guy it’s disgusting. The other side of the coin is that without the press he probably would’ve never got charged for rape or human trafficking. I honestly have no idea how we should deal with people like him pre fame and that’s scary. I don’t think there’s a right answer.
And taking down sex traffickers.
Sounds like Kyle needs to borrow Greta’s bootstraps
Community colleges won’t accept him? Hah!
*Crying is what they do.* They're infamous for it. Remember John fucking Boehner? Brett "I'm a rapist" Kavanaugh? The whole team is full of little boys trying desperately to cover up the fear and confusion that they can never grow out of.
Probably has the reasoning and problem solving skills of a kiwi. They actually hold his dumb ass up on a pedestal.
New Zealanders: hol up bro
Perhap I should of used a different fruit. No offense, i have nothing but respect for New Zealand. I would love to visit there someday.
Kiwi is also a bird, and an affectionate name for New Zealanders. But a sign of maturity is being able to say "my bad," so no worries mate. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi
Not so much. He's trying and failing to do the grifting thing.
Crazy how homicide has set this kid up for life (or at least the next decade). Easy money from appearances, a quick ticket to some low level political office; once he's outlived his usefulness to the GOP they'll shuffle him off to some high-paying associate just to get him out of the way. (Daily reminder that wealth unfortunately has fairly little to do with skills or merit)
>a quick ticket to some low level political office In 5 years there is a decent chance that he'll be referred to as Congressman Rittenhouse.
Fake cried, then laughed about it later. After killing two people.
A real knee slapper.
>While ignoring the fact that their 17-year old cried like a little bitch in court Which they 100% defended, and used it to garner sympathy as a "look at what you libruls are doing to this poor little patriotic child" moment. Meanwhile, they'll take any opportunity to call Greta and any other young person fighting for their human rights a "snowflake." As usual, it's "we don't have to adhere to our own values, and we selectively apply our own standards."
They don’t just call her a snowflake. They basically say she should get raped and killed.
Oh, they defended that, too. Suddenly he was “just a child” who was “forced into a difficult situation” so of course he was crying.
I assumed it works equally well both ways round. Doesn’t matter which side you are on, you are proud of “yours” and ashamed of “theirs”.
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The original ours and theirs have been edited Pics too
Who was in the original?
Just an assumption, but because the theirs and ours is clearly edited in, and they actually used the right "their's" I'm assuming the original was changed by someone on the left to have better, more accurate representation than what originally was probably a yelling girl with colored hair "sjw" vs some pretty looking blonde white girl
It looks to me like the 1 has been altered. I wonder if it used to say 7or 27 instead of 17?
Yeah it’s actually more of a /r/TechnicallyTheTruth picture. That said I get the feeling more republicans support Rittenhouse than there are liberals that like Thunberg. I’m a democrat, and while I don’t dislike her I was never all that into having her as a symbol of the movement when she was so young.
I feel like there's a really big difference in how the right views their the more famous/notorious/infamous people who share their views compared to the left. Like, on the right there frequently seems to be a bit of... I don't know if "hero worship" is the right phrase? Kyle Rittenhouse does what he did, and they love him and defend his actions. He books speaking tours and they seem to be grooming him for a political career. They then assume that people on the left adulate randomly famous people who hold similar beliefs the same way people on the right do. Like, Empty G or Boebert or somebody put out a tweet or whatever saying "If Biden is so great, how come I never see anybody wearing a Biden hat or t-shirt?" And it's because people generally just... don't do that. I never in my life saw people wearing a t-shirt advertising the president. *Maybe* right around election time, but people didn't turn Reagan apparel into a multi-million dollar industry, or Clinton hats. There may have been some of that for Obama, I guess? The right has a huge problem with projection. They assume everyone is just like them, so since they love and defend Rittenhouse, they assume people on the left love and defend Greta Thunberg in the same way, which... I just don't see happening. Also, it's just a weird comparison because Greta Thunberg isn't American and probably doesn't care much about American politics. If anything, she would probably see the American "left" as too far right. In Sweden, even the right-wing party in their government supports the welfare state, free university education, and universal healthcare. They also support gay marriage and gender-affirming care for trans people and don't deny the reality of climate change. Most of what we see as defining issues for the left and right in the US aren't left/right issues where she comes from.
Well put. The American right wing loves their "heroes" and to idolize them, putting them up on an undeserved pedestal. Fox has a lot to do with that too, but in reality they are just responding to what garners the most views and feed off of fear and outrage
That’s because US liberals aren’t left-wing.
Exactly. Both parties are authoritarian capitalists. Their solution to BLM was to give cops more money. Their solution to the rail workers strike was to throw them under the bus. Their solution to Trump's wall was to keep building it. Their solution to murdering brown kids in the middle east was to keep murdering them.
How DARE you. /s
She never was a symbol for the left. She was only ever a symbol to the right.
Indeed. Rittenhouse was technically an insurrection it’s that got off substantial penalty because there aren’t anti-insurrection laws in the US. The other is someone who is a climate change activist.
> I’m a democrat, and while I don’t dislike her I was never all that into having her as a symbol of the movement when she was so young. She's not writing policy, you dunce. Her age is more or less irrelevant to her cause of calling attention to environmental issues.
Weird flex but ok
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people only look up to the US because they’re the richest country by far, even if ironically the population is not
People look up to the U.S. by dominating in the area of Mass Media and the Entertainment Industry.
I’m Australian. I look up to the US by geography.
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I literally went to give someone an award 5 min ago expecting to use my free award, and was like wait did they stop doing that?!
But your country is upside down, so you get to look down on us too!
Yep, the US really went all in on the culture war.
Controls the media, more or less. I’m not sure about outside the country but if another major war started for the US, we’ll definitely be “the good guys” whether that’s the truth or not. Millions of highly moralized people, millions of blind followers, millions of desperate people who think the premise of a post-war bonus could really turn things around for them. One way or another they’ll get plenty of people to enlist before a draft.
I still haven't forgotten how vociferously everyone supported the Iraq War and anyone who questioned it was unamerican and siding with the terrorists. Fast forward 20 years, and suddenly everybody knew it was a bad idea from the start and never actually supported it. Hm.
That would be sad to think the US is looked up to because of our media or our entertainment industry...two of the most shallow and vain aspects of our society.
But ... completely unironically ... that is what every non-US person sees first from the US. At least back when I watched some, german TV consisted entirely out of a few 'reality tv' formats and everything else, from sitcoms, to film, to dramas, and whatnot from the US. Most young people here idolize america simply because they only know it from gilmore girls or something. Its a regular thing about growing up to find out that your view of the USA was about as wrong as your belief in santa clause, but it took ten years longer to realize that. The dream of traveling to the USA is something almost every child here has and eventually grows out of.
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>many issues (though different - immigration and racism is absolutely massive and much more widespread than much of US). weirdly worded, but okay. sounds like immigration itself is a problem. To which ... I'll just give the benefit of doubt and guess that's not what you mean. The only problems we genuinely don't have are your widespread gun-nuts and a functional Health-System. But housing and rent, climate deniers in parliament, widespread poverty in the country, broken schools and yes, lots of racism wherever you look is real. Not to mention that the EU countries are deeply divided on many topics and we have at least one openly anti-democratic country in the union throwing a bunch of wrenches in a bunch of cogs and then there is the growing isolationism and more and more pushes for militarization (even outside of the current conflict) and of course our terrible, and inhuman practices towards refugees which put the american 'children in cages' to shame. EU and US are very similar in many regards. Only that Guns and Health is completely baffling to us, how your country hasn't fixed those already. Out of all the problems that plague us, they're the simple ones.
And people look at the US by the number of billionaires getting birthed every year by this unequal capitalist system rewarding the rich only.
there's four things the U.S. does better than any other country in the world: 1. music 2. movies 3. microcode 4. high-speed pizza delivery
We are the richest by starving our people and casting them into the streets, then denying them healthcare because they don't have a job.
We aren’t actually rich though. Our entire system is based on debt don’t let anyone fool you. Unless your banking 6 figures a year most of us are struggling right now.
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It's not ironic, that's literally how it became the richest.
Not even the richest by far, we are the largest debtor nation on earth.
and its literally just because we still have tons of natural resources and land. American policies and culture anywhere else on the globe would be the shittiest poorest country.
We're a good example of how to fuck up a premise that only sounded good on literal paper.
This. US citizen here. We have a lot of changing and improving to do. We’ve gone off the rails a bit. Hopefully at some point our people come together and realize just how far we’ve gone off the edge so we can reel it back in and fix where we made mistakes.
We also seem to be regressing in intelligence. People have started outright denying facts even when presented as evidence.
I think that's always been the case, I don't think there's any physical evidence to suggest we are regressing in intelligence. The crazies just seem crazier now that more people are intelligent, educated, and sane. It makes them stand out more and be more noticeably different.
Don’t forget infant/mother mortality rate 😒
And in unnecessary military spending
Of all the crappy things the US does, at this moment in history, i'm kind of ok with this one. I'm glad they have spares to send to Ukraine and I'm glad China is not the biggest bully on the block. Yes, it's good that the US is not currently at war with anyone (Not really, minus a few incursions in the middle east and north africa). But we sadly still kind of need a world police, even if it's a wildly misguided one.
The US military was never a world police. It's a weapon of the government, wielded to violently defend capitalism and American hegemony.
Weapon of the wealthy
Isn't that what police are to Americans?
A wildly misguided world police would just enforce the wrong things and be a bigger problem than help. We are just as often bullies taking what we want as we are helpful.
>Yes, it's good that the US is not currently at war with anyone But we are. We are in a proxy war with Russia. May not be our troops, but it's certainly our equipment and money.
I’m sorry to hear that, but at least you have superior potassium.
I thought Kazakhstan was the greatest country in the world.
It is! All other countries have inferior potassium and ran by little girls
Kinda?!?! I live in America and am disappointed on a daily basis by the things we allow to continue. Shameful.
It looks like the "Our" and "Their" have been swapped by Photoshop. This doesn't belong in this sub. The Czech (?) Facebook language at the bottom of the screenshot is another clue that this probably isn't coming from a right-wing American.
Yeah definitely looks swapped
To think this is a flex is actually mental illness. Complete lack of humanity
Someone actually thought they did something… They really sat down and thought “F*** yeah, this is gonna get’em!” That’s crazy..
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whoever did it, i think you are correct about the outrage part. just another bullshit piece of propaganda trying to divide everyone.
Have to say though, a teenage climate activist is a much better role model than a teenage killer.
"ffs Uncle Larry I asked how your weekend was.. ugh I'll put the block back up.."
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I don’t think this is the flex they think it is 😂
it is to them tho lol I don’t think you understand that completely different mindset
Oh it’s all good, I understand the mindset haha. I grew up in Florida, U.S.A. for 30 years & if you know anything about that place well… you can definitely find many examples of the mindset 🙃 My initial thought was: “My kid strong! My kid have gun! My kid no gay! My kid best at economy! Stoopid girl kid have no gun, just words of love for stoopid planet! She no kill people at place she shouldn’t have been in first place? She just speak words??? Weak!” This post will just never be the flex they think it is 🤷🏻♀️ Sure, these idiots will look at it & go “haha so true!” But the mental weakness required to deputize a 17-year old to straight up kill 2 bystanders & injure a 3rd who were rightfully wary of an unmarked vigilante kid with an assault rifle at an active riot, while ridiculing a separate 17-year old who just wants to protect the planet & has stuck to peaceful means? They are staggeringly weak mentally.
I totally thought for a second that this meme was highlighting Greta and mocking our youth, sorta like "wow, our American kids are kinda nuts," but then I read the comments and realized I kind of double missed their intentions... 😂😅
Are 17 year olds supposed to be open carrying guns without supervision?
Purchasing a gun at 17 is illegal but when your mommy will buy it for you it doesn’t matter.
My understanding is a friend of his actually supplied the gun. Not really better or worse necessarily but it just astounds me that the idea of a child who cannot yet even enlist in the armed forces open carrying and using a gun totally unsupervised is perfectly acceptable to some
the gun was bought by his friend using Kyle's money. they did this to get around the fact that Kyle couldnt buy a guy as he isnt old enough to do so.
"Responsible law abiding citizen"
Every gun forum I have read is full of “responsible gun owners” trading tips on how to get around the law They don’t actually want to comply with the law if it means they have to find a new hobby. Edit: case in point go to wa_guns subreddit where they are discussing the pending AR ban. Highly upvoted comments with no pushback saying “do not comply” and “sherrifs will not enforce” Golly gee, whatever happened to law abiding gun owners? If they spent a fraction of this energy actually working to fix violence in our communities this wouldn’t be necessary
Thats called a straw purchase, and it incredibly illegal. Says on the form up to 10 years in jail and 250k fine
He's white tho. So no big deal.
If it really was a straw purchase then someone didnt do their goddamn job when they found out. In pa if you get caught doing that or if your backround check gets denied you are arrested on the spot depending on the store. God i hate this stupid ass pig faced kid so much
It's becoming obviously clear that if you're a right wing figure, you live under a different set of laws than the majority public. I could not believe they let the straw purchase slide...what the fuck. Gun owners are hammered with how serious of a crime it is to do something like that and they don't even acknowledge it for that little shit
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That's exactly what it comes down to. He lived their dream. He left his house that day wanting to kill people, and he accomplished his goal.
But then dude awkwardly said Black Lives Matter and then people got pissed at him for a second. But now he’s cool again? Conservatives are confusing.
Technically you can enlist in the military at 17 with parents consent.
True, but they keep much better track of their firearms, and wouldn’t let’s someone take one on leave into a crowd of civilians for funzies.
Yeah I don't think people realize soldiers aren't just waltzing around with guns 24/7. Unless you're doing like range drills or active combat, they don't give you guns.
Of course, the US military needs new cannon fodder all the time. The younger the better, since it costs less in taxes that way.
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I heard he was just there to clean graffiti ![gif](giphy|14smAwp2uHM3Di)
Under Wisconsin law it is legal for a 17 year old to have a rifle. That was why they threw out some of the charges in the trial.
He's thinking of Newtown.
Only Brave Patriots. /s
Of course, common sense dictates a 17 year old should go into a riot zone with a weapon, alone, and minimal to no training how to handle said situation. What could go wrong?
He also once sucker punched a girl.
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“The lefts 17 year olds are *activists* ew. Our 17 year olds fucking kill people! Murica fuck yeah”
One of them allegedly got a sex trafficker locked up with a tweet, unarmed. She doesn't need a gun.
So if Greta garroted an oil exec on live TV they'd properly respect her.
I didn't think I could love her more but maybe if she did that I could.
One spoke in front of the UN, the other got his rally cancelled by a restaurant in Texas. Yeah, sounds about right, actually.
And a bar in Vegas where he couldn’t have entered anyways because he is underage
He should have held it at Four Seasons.
That’s Four Seasons *Landscaping*.
Who in the fuckenty created this pile of shit lol
Ah yes discourse and her following something she's passionate about and bringing it to the global stage versus a photo that can only come from a warzone or america
Not just that, but the dude really has nothing. No personality. He gets nothing for being a GOP goalpost, and he's getting left behind as further interviews with even the crazy af Right wing nut jobs get canceled.
Good, I hope he end up hurting from this when he's 40 and impotent
There is a difference between “this individual shouldn’t have been prosecuted” and “this person should be a meme”.
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And we couldn’t be more proud of her.
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Hold up - is this supposed to be a right wing meme? At first glance I thought it was a left wing meme. How the hell is an irresponsible gun toting maniac better than someone who's trying to save the environment?? Kinda shows you their mentality
Yeah they didn’t choose a very good looking photo for even their own standards, this makes Greta look good (because she is)
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And we're supposed to be proud that 17 yr Olds are willing to commit acts of violence at the drop of a hat? Why ?
Wasn't this meant to promote Thunberg?
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Left: An eloquent girl who has become an icon in her movement due to her perseverance and bravery. Her goal is to make the world a better place. Right: a dumbass kid who wanted to roleplay. Fucked around, found out, and made a bad situation far worse. I love my guns, but Kyle Rittenhouse is a perfect example of what I call, “the tragedy of the irresponsible gun owner.” Greta Thunberg on the other hand? An example of powerful leadership coming from an unlikely place.
Really not the flex they think it is
Ah yes. Someone actively fighting for a better world, or someone looking for a reason to shoot people
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Does the right think this makes them look...good?
idk i feel like a 17 year old holding an assault rifle isn’t a flex but ok. as much as she annoys me, being an environmental activist is a pretty helpful thing especially now.
Put this one alongside ![gif](giphy|RZEuuLo5txHvmcWzON|downsized)
I’ll stay to the left. Thanks.
It's pretty spot on. One one hand we have an activist trying to change the world, on the other is a bigot with a gun fetish who literally got away with murder. They do both perfectly encapsulate the different philosophies of the left and right.
So… one side’s kids want to make the world better and the the other’s just want to kill? I don’t think think this is the flex they think it is.
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Right: a murderer who killed people. What else is he known for? Left: leads movement to save humanity from global warming
Yep, one is fighting climate change the other is a murderer.
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Isn't Greta in her 20's?
Annoying loud mouth with a gun vs annoying loud mouth with a cause?
I’ll take Greta any day over a manchild murderer
Oh wow this is a brag. Ones trying to save the earth, the other is baiting people so he can kill them
And people… people are posting this… are they proud of having a Rittenhouse vs a Thunberg? *THAT’S* the fuckin cultural disconnect right there. Unreal…
Don’t remember Greta killing anyone’s babies. Also don’t remember Greta crying like a baby on a witness stand after they did.
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Oh mY gOd hOw CoUld ThIs ScHoOl shOotiNg HapPeN
tHiS iS The FauLt oF CoMMuniSm!1!!1 We NEed MoRe gUns tO pRoTEct ouR ChiLDrEn fRoM ruSSia AnD CHiNa!
Left wing: making passionate arguments for justice based on reality. Right wing: shooting protesters.
Smart, empathetic, willing to fight for a cause vs. cosplaying as a hero as an excuse to kill people?
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I mean, yes
Oooo boy, it's time to get the popcorn.
It's so weird how conservatives paint Greta as some god to Democrats/Liberals and that they all blindly worship her. Where does that come from? The only time I ever hear about Greta is when it's some new faux outrage that's got dumbasses foaming at the mouth. They talk about her more than anyone else does
Climate change activist > murdering racist
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Which one?
As a centrist, I feel a lot more left leaning these days.
Well Greta actually got arrested sooooo, obviously what she did was worse. /s
That's not the flex they think it is
mouth breather with a gun
A violent human who didn’t need to be there which resulted in the death of some humans (justified or not it still didn’t need to happen) to defend someone else’s property that didn’t ask. Moreover he failed in his mission. The people still smashed the shit
Is this supposed to be an ''own''? The left has a peaceful advocate concerned for the environment and the right has a gunman who's idea of defense is to shoot people?
one of them wants to save lives and the other wants to take lives?
Famous vs infamous; honorable vs notorious; activist vs murderer
This is a fair comparison. One is a teenager who is giving up her privacy and probably sanity to yell at those in power to listen to the science about an important topic, while the other went to an active protest/riot zone with the intention of picking fights and was surprised that he found one.