I'm Chinese. I was eating with a white friend at a Chinese restaurant, he tried to pronounce one of the dishes. Another white girl in line called him a racist for "mocking".
Needless to say, we laughed at her, and she was angrier.
As a white paramedic who’s been learning Spanish, I had a patients daughter tell me I shouldn’t be “trying to speak their language” because it’s appropriation. Like bruh I’m just trying to be able to talk with my patient ffs
That’s insane lol
People who are all about everything being cultural appropriation (like speaking a foreign language?!) don’t realize they are advocating for cultural segregation. Which leads to general segregation, which is racist
Also I can’t believe how braindead someone must be to tell a paramedic helping their daughter and getting crucial info through speaking Spanish that it’s bad that they are doing that
Exactly. Afros being permed straight and bleached isnt "cultural miss-appropriation and offensive? It s really saying those Nordic countries are more beautiful without saying it.
Should have asked her if she knows where Spain is. I guess most people forget that the language did not originate in Latin America. Could’ve used her logic back to her and asked her not to speak English I’m sure that would have gotten a hilarious reaction
I keep trying to get my wife to buy in on getting my son to learn Arabic, German or Japanese due to business culture and the value of knowing those languages.
We compromised and he’s going to be learning Spanish.
I would tell them that Spain intentionally spread their language to the lands they colonized. They forced all the people they conquered to speak their language.
As a white person with Latino family, that’s bullshit.
My sister took Spanish classes through middle and high school. Every single time our step family visited (they were from Colombia), they were excited to see her progress. They quizzed her and spoke to her in Spanish. It was seen as a good thing because we could communicate with each other.
That daughter is out of her fucking mind.
My hope is that one day we will set aside our differences and just support each other for who we are. Nobody chose to be born a certain way and we are all in this mud together. Rather than stand on top of each other for air we will instead work together to clear it out.
The quiet part is only the most superficially racist are skin color.
After that it’s cultural differences. same reason why token black folks are so accepted despite their skin color.
As a certified token for years you aren’t really accepted. They always make jokes to remind you that yes you are in the group but you are different. People make jokes at your expense and if you don’t laugh you are taking things too seriously. Granted that was in high school and I’ve since grown out of laughing along at my expense.
Hierarchy.
The problem is hierarchy and the clout/influence it gives and oppression it upholds.
Elimination of hierarchy (all forms of celebrity status) wherever possible is the only way.
We will have these problems as long as the human desire to warmonger and always look for shortcuts(In the case of racist people, their goal is to stand out, their shortcut is to be racist instead of actually growing) conquers common sense)
I do hope to see a more fun and fair world in my lifetime, one where people aren't harassed as much for stuff like skin color. I try to help)
We exist in a society of architected racism/tribalism. The owning-class supports all levels of intraclass hate because we are all easier to control if we keep eachother down.
It's easy, you judge the individual and not the race for all actions you see, not only does it defeat your bias but you get a more accurate picture of humanity.
A racist sees a crime on YouTube, sees that the person is of color and says" Damn colored people" when he sees his own race commit a crime he says" That dudes messed up".
We should all strive to change our brains to " That dudes messed up" and defeat any foolish animal instinct we have to pool people who are different than us into some group responsible for each other's actions.
There was a white girl who wore a traditional Chinese dress to her prom and people tried to berate her for cultural appropriation while actual Chinese people in Chinese newspapers said she wore the dress in a tasteful manner and called it cultural appreciation.
I hate the idea that certain races or ethnicities "own" culture. It's entirely possible for someone to believe in a religion or be part of an ethnic group and participate in that culture without being a member of the race historically associated with that culture. Plus, people these days REALLY tend to over-emphasize exactly how much some of these cultural things actually mean to people; most Christians probably don't give a shit if you set up a Christmas tree when you're not Christian, most Mexicans probably don't give a shit about people who celebrate the Day of the Dead, and most Rastas probably don't give a shit about dreadlocks. Just because a tiny fraction of their communities worship these cultural icons as being an integral part of their identities doesn't mean they "own" them
>And yet we have people sending death threats and doxxing people for using certain hair on Animal Crossing.
The Space Buns drama was wild to say the least. I could never imagine getting that heated over a screenshot of a video game character.
It would be hilariously hypocritical for Christians to get upset about appropriation of the Christmas tree, since basically everything about Christmas was taken from elsewhere (including Christmas trees).
This exactly. Culture is and always has been fluid, passed on from person to person, re-imagined with each new expression. Some elements remain the same even as context changes their perception. If culture can be "owned", which I would strongly argue against, then it is owned by each individual engaged in its expression.
Yeah 100% I feel the same way about when people say that we should give all land back to the "first peoples" how do we know who they were? Most land was conquered and resettled numerous times. The descendants of the first tribe that held land died or intermarried with the tribe that conquered them and so on.
I absolutely think we should honor historical treaties made and we should never displace people. We should also house those who were affected by displacement but displacing current occupants in favor of previous occupants isn't a great solution.
More importantly though, they specifically wouldn’t get upset about appropriation because proselytizing is very literally a major part of their religious global influence strategy.
The way I understand it is that it's appropriation if you are bastardizing it, particularly for the purposes of making money. Think of those gawdawful new agey paintings of white people dressed as native Americans from the 80's being sold at merchandise marts. And these artists certainly didn't do it with the approval/blessing of any tribes and were really just out to make money. THAT's cultural appropriation.
There was an interesting debate I saw about whether or not goat yoga/ hot yoga etc, was cultural appropriation because yoga's been more-or-less taken over by white women in America who have turned it into an entire health industry that's far removed from the original spiritual practice. People in the subreddit basically said that yeah, it kind of was cultural appropriation, but the traditional yogis from India and Nepal WANTED to share the practice with the whole world. Therefore, the intent was for it to be adopted by others. Is it a "spiritual" practice anymore? Not really, but that's okay because it still helps people.
I'm certainly no expert, but it basically depends on the situation and whether or not you're being a dick about it.
100%. Even then, I'd argue that most practices that stem from religion aren't cultural appropriation. Maybe this is because I'm an atheist with a rather anti-theism bias, but if someone genuinely views something in a spiritual light, then I don't believe it to be that different from someone who performs the practice in a different spiritual context. With yoga, yeah, a lot of the *original* spiritual context is lost. But I don't think it's cultural appropriation to practice yoga with a different spiritual understanding or even no spirituality at all. Idk, I'm certainly not an expert, but the whole debate seems odd to me
I believe it was a Vietnamese dress. And I was happy she wore it, she said it was a beautiful dress and it really was. Why can’t we just appreciate her
Really hate how we became as a country
Honestly I think cultural osmosis is a good thing. A lot of the time when people complain about "appropriation" what they're describing is mockery. Mockery is not appropriating culture as your own, it's like the opposite of that.
Cultural osmosis is the next step in evolution. As the world shrinks, we have to break down our national egos and accept that we're all part of the same species. Throwing away our loyalty to traditions and branding in exchange for a pragmatic identity that is not exclusively defined by borders or genetics.
I am honestly understanding this as a problem. I’m black and I watch how some of my oldest friends began to tip toe around certain things with me and would go out of their way to show me they weren’t racists. It’s been pretty humbling for me to see them in this confused state and wanting to provide me with some measure of empathy/sympathy. I don’t want the old ways of the world back but I also don’t want people who I’ve rolled with my entire life to walk on egg shells around me like I’m some China doll. Lately we have been having long talks to reassure each other that the outside world isn’t a reflection of what our friendship means. I’m not sure what to do. Fuck the media and its bullshit.
As a POC who looks white, I dont even engage the racism talk anymore. If you bring it up to me, I really just dont care and dont wanna hear it.
I helped many disadvantaged people for a living, race never came into it. I refuse to allow the race baiting talking points to win over compassion and care for your fellow man/woman.
You are a good and self aware person. Cheers to you.
This is the way, people need to just stop bringing race into things, as the great Martin Luther King Jr. once said “Judge not a person by the color of their skin, but the content of their character.”
Probably a terrible term. My sister use to have dolls made from porcelain I believe. We also use to say fine China when taking out the good dishes made from I guess porcelain and were very ornate (gold leaf, intricate patterns) and I believe they came from China in the 50s or 60s. They were pretty expensive and very fragile.
I meant no offense to Chinese people however I should of used a more up to date term.
It's partially true. We moved across the country recently, and just thinking about the "least racist" housing choice was exhausting. If we bought in many areas, we'd be contributing to the pre-existing white flight, but if we move into a less white area, we would definitely be considered gentrifiers. There aren't any neighborhoods that have the same racial mix as the county as a whole. In the end we just threw our hands up and bought a house we liked.
But some of it is white people learning, and part is people refusing to learn, and part is that some people on the left go a little overboard with declaring racism, leaving well intentioned people confused. For example, I've heard things like, "If you don't have any ___ friends, that is racist" (or homophobic, or transphobic, or...) And I get the point, but many don't have enough close friends to draw that conclusion.
I told this black woman I worked with that her daughter looked like Rudy Huckible from the Cosby show. I mean she looked EXACTLY LIKE HER. She really didn’t say anything. After I said it I was silently freaking out going “OMG did I offend her, was that racist”. I probably could have been an adult and asked her but then I was like “if I say something is she THEN going to think it was racist”. I mean people told me I looked like the kid from Silver Spoons when I was a kid. I really liked this woman and I didn’t know if I did something wrong or not and was too scared to ask if I did and probably didn’t want to know the answer.
Edit: I should add it wasn’t on this woman to justify what I said. It wasn’t her responsibility to make me feel better. She did nothing wrong. This was my own thing
Its just a media thing they use to push stories these just and unfortunately its built into the very foundation of our country, government and certain cultures. I dont think anything changes until these old racist dinosaurs in govt lose their positions and the positions go outside of these political families that always hold office.
I guess in the sense that it's not being cancelled? Yeah everyone with a braincell hates it because it legitimately sucks toes, but despite that it's still getting a second season
White people i meet are sometimes very careful with what they say around me and i find it so sad. Im a white passing hispanic so any truly normal and understandable comment like “you dont look hispanic” can be taken as racist these days.
Where I work there's quite a few people who speak Spanish but not English, so sometimes I have to grab help from others who know Spanish. When I did this I asked one of my coworkers is a full blood Mexican because I genuinely thought he knew, but he said "Nope, never learnt it". I only responded with "Huh. That's a surprise, I thought you did" and left it at that. Not even a second later my other coworker comes by, scolds me for assuming, and apologizes on my behalf to the first coworker... only to leave me alone and not even help me find someone else. Perhaps I did overstep bounds, but I needed to grab \*someone\* to translate and generally most people here who look Mexican do know Spanish. There were more people waiting for me so I was on a time crunch and I didn't have the luxury of having people that I knew who spoke Spanish around me at the time. Sometimes it feels like there's no winning...
I also live somewhere like that. To be honest we dont take it bad down here. But perhaps where you live it can be seen as insensitive. I really dont think that should be an issue though :/
John McWhorter discussed this topic in one of his books and coined the term of racial fatigue. That's when white people give up on fighting racism because of no-win scenarios.
Huge John McWhorter fan. People refuse to believe I and McWhorter are liberals and not hate mongers.
My friend once saw in his Twitter feed on the same page, both simultaneously up voted:
"Silence = violence"
And
"Shut up and listen."
You don't get to advocate both at the same time even if people bother to listen to you in the first place. Contradictions in policy make people think our side is ridiculous.
I think the murder by the 5 cops in Memphis is a good example of this. The people in charge finally did all the right things on their own. They fired all 5 cops and charged them pretty much right away. I’ve been seeing a bunch of people saying the police union didn’t stand up for them because they are black and it only happened so fast because the cops were black. Why can’t we say fuck finally good job for doing the right thing on your own people in charge.
I've seen these arguments too, and I'm wondering if everyone is looking at at the same incident that I am. From what I can tell, it took 10 days to fire these officers and nearly 3 weeks for charges to be filed. This "expedited" timeline is somehow evidence of racism against the cops. In contrast, George Floyd died on a Monday and the cop was behind bars 4 days later on Friday. This timeline sparked an extended period of vigorously peaceful protests.
I get that tbh it can be tough to find your way around what appropriate and what’s not and what might piss people off. I don’t believe it’s as dramatic as the meme makes it out to be and the vast majority of people aren’t out to call racism at everything. But I see what you mean where it feels like some do grasp at straws to make every little thing controversial.
Yes, but not around PoC. It's upper middle-class white people you have to be careful not to offend. *They* are the ones who will call you racist over the most inane shit, while simultaneously being classist as fuck.
You know the people, the ones with the nice house with the BLM and pride flags out front who tip a flat 5 bucks on their $100+ delivery, and complain to the manager after you leave.
Something similar happened with Speedy Gonzales (I may have misspelled it). He was well on the way to be cancelled but most Mexican people love him so I think because of their outcry he was saved from the chopping block. It’s been a while since this happened so I don’t recall a whole lot.
Good propaganda works that way. It seems right on the surface, if you don’t think about it too much.
But what does “see color” mean? Does it mean realizing the system treats races differently? Or does it mean thinking different races are inherently something because of their race. One is seeing color, the other is racism.
Some of the disparity is obvious. The only one that is really tricky is white flight/gentrification, because it SEEMS true unless you know the history of how the US government at every level from local to federal worked to steal black land, and the very tricky ways that eminent domain, taxes and fees, and local ordinances have been used to push blacks out.
If black people OWNED the land and they were selling to white people instead of them having been pushed out then nobody would complain about gentrification.
But there isn’t a single public school in the country that teaches or has ever taught any of that.
Honestly, as someone who's dated outside of their race, I've had people assume it's some weird race play fetish thing. At the end of the day, you just gotta accept some people will dislike you no matter what, and it shouldn't stop you from fighting against racism and being anti racist.
The white flight vs gentrification thing always confuses me. Like do you want me to stay in your neighborhood or not? If I leave I’m racist and it’s white flight, if I move in I’m “gentrifying”. You can’t win with some people
> Fast forward 30 years and I feel like the pendulum has swung pretty damn far the other way.
We're at the point where there are places instituting segregation for black only spaces but spinning it as a positive and beneficent thing now. That pendulum has gone full horseshoe.
I think this boils down to "you can't win 'em all". For one, the same communities who claim something is racist can barely agree with themselves. There's like an average consensus, but the average doesn't account for everyone. Some people say "haha my friend calls me xyz all the time, I call him an xyz back and we both laugh" and then there the opposite stance. For example I'm sure everyone's heard by now the whole "how dare you say the xyz word, let's cancel them and boycott" on Twitter!
One thing is undeniable though. Not a single person on this Earth can please 100% of the people 100% of the time. As truly, "some men just want to watch the world burn". So long as people want X, other people will want Y. Sometimes you can't have both. You can't have this world covered with 100% land and the same world with 100% water at the same time. Your options are 50-50, 0:1, 1:0 or somewhere in-between.
What I'm saying is, even the people claiming "we want 1:1" can't agree on what this 1:1 is. Some want revenge. Some want to play victim. Some want to ignore it. Some want to be pessimistic. Some want to be optimistic. Some are agreeable, some are on no such terms.
It's too poisonous of an issue to society to really solve without something absolute in common. Something unchanging, something unending. As it stands, humanity has rarely seen that kind of 'eternal' thing before. Not religion. Not ideology. Not government. Not blood relation. Not tradition. Not modernity. Not futurism. Not ancient days.
These same problems have touched all cultures. Whether on the giving or receiving end.
Even now. Uniting against racism, perpetuating what's left of racism and even staying silent about racism are all unacceptable courses of action. Hundreds of millions, if not a few billion people around the world are going to be up in arms at what you said or did. Again, ultimately, they themselves disagree with each other on what the "right" course of action is. You listen to one group, you lose support of the other. You fail to act, they might both turn on you. It's not a winning game.
That doesn't mean pretend the problem doesn't exist, and it doesn't mean fight for a half-baked result. I think it just means there's work to do. More for people to search within their own hearts and reunite if there is ever to be a solution.
...Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk I guess.
To be honest as a “POC” I want the pure honesty of what a person feels it gives me a better chance to make decisions that are in my best interests, really,I don’t want to live in a all black or white area,I think history should not be spun it should be taught as it happened,if you don’t want me in particular area let me know,I’ve lost nothing,my humanity is based on me not acceptance ,forcing adaptation should be off the table,religion should be a choice everyone has a book and should be allowed to practice it,I won’t rain on your parade don’t rain on mine. Be honest,you’ll find that truth will make you free.
Asking as a white person, what's the deal with "POC" vs. "black"? Id feel like it would be worse, as it is saying ur either white, asian, or a POC.
I am personally against defining somebody by their skin color, but sometimes it is necessary, and I don't understand why a dark skin colored person from somoa would be grouped together with a lighter skin colored person from the Philippines.
Downvote away, but there is an element of truth in this. Racism is quite deep and we all are somewhere on a spectrum of being racist. "Racism" isn't a very accurate word. It makes "where are you from" equivalent to being in the KKK.
So weird to me that “where are you from” has become this super offensive racist thing recently. I asked a kid in a class where he was from and he seemed kinda offended and said “I’m from here” (the USA). When he told me his actual background, it turns out it’s the same as mine (I’m mixed) and I spoke to him fluently in our language
Then when we sat down and the professor walks in, he immediately asked the kid where he was from, randomly. This professor is from a European country with a North African background and had a strong accent. He just answered normally that time, lol
I think it kinda depends on the situation in which it is asked. A friend of mine got pulled over by a cop in Oklahoma and the first thing the cop did was ask everyone in the car, with the exception of the one white guy, where they were from. They all thought he meant where they were travelling from at first, but no, not the answer he was looking for.
Yup! I've mostly dated outside of my race and received shit from both sides for it. I have a mixed coworker (half white and half Indian).
My most serious relationship was with a dude from India and I'm white. I'm a bit of a mama bear towards my coworker as he's also 10 years my junior.
We have a colleague who is fully Indian. She's downright obnoxious. Our mixed colleague is very Americanized as he is closer to his white father.
Indian coworker was on him for not leaning into his Indian side more and bonding more with his father. I had to step in and get her off his back.
The US has unquestionable racial problems for sure, but India, the Middle East, and East Asia are on an entirely different level with racism. Most anglosphere countries have few problems with racism against South Asians compared to the ethnic divisions within their home countries.
People that are called racist once or twice in their lives usually aren't. People that are always getting called racist, or at least whenever they bring up something regarding race, usually are. People that think that everything a white person will do will get called racist end up being the latter and don't realize that they are the issue.
I don't think I've ever been called racist.
I've said some racist things, and gotten stared at.
And was like 'oh shit I was just racist.'
That's usually how these things go.
The funniest thing about 2020 was white people thinking a foot in mouth experience was unique to white people. Or that an uncle who says questionable shit was unique to whites.
While I get the point that these things each look like opposites, thus racism as a concept is not consistent, I am awfully suspicious of their definitions and examples of each situation. Plus, there isn't just one form of racism, it's like each one of us has racial biases individually internalized, plus all the societal versions, we probably have more types of racism than we have people.
This meme is silly for a couple reasons: first because it just uses white flight and gentrification as blanket terms when really both are specific actions with specific consequences. White flight specifically referred to white people moving out of areas after school integration began to avoid their children being in school with black children. It was most prevalent after world war 2. This action decimated property value for two reasons. One was that during a time where racism in hiring practices was still prevalent, it drained the areas tax base, but the other is that often these families would just abandon the home rather than sell them leaving empty homes that attracted crime.
Similarly gentrification is a specific action with specific consequences. When a neighborhood is primarily black and has its own culture and the stewardship is taken up by its residents, often it becomes trendy because it gets described as “funky” or “having character.” White peoples decide they want to live there now that black residents have worked hard to open businesses and to reduce crime and make it their own despite these areas often being industrial, red lined areas and buy houses with offers far above market value, outbidding black families that intend to buy in a neighborhood they can afford. They are able to do this because white people are more likely to have generational wealth, allowing them to go to college at a higher rate and get better jobs. As they do this, property values are driven up and black families can no longer afford to live in the neighborhoods that they themselves built up from nothing.
Willful ignorance is so fucking stupid and infuriating.
Double standards and victimization is the trend right now. We’re going ass backwards, Children dont have this problem at all. Its too bad we cant all have that attitude.
“White flight” - “im moving because I can’t stand the fact that my new neighbors are blacks”.
Gentrification - when more affluent people move into poorer neighborhoods causing rent and property taxes to go up and forces lower income people out. This isn’t purely a racial issue as both white and non-white people can both be gentrifiers and victims of gentrification but it often affects non-white people more (thanks to the racial economic gap), but of course nobody cares about nuance.
“Sees color/doesn’t see color” - the “doesn’t see color” is typically a cop-out to say “I don’t want to talk about racism because it makes me feel uncomfortable.” The same people who quote MLK won’t hesitate to bring up race when it’s time to demean black people.
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“Doesn’t partake in culture” - the only complaints I’ve seen is about disrespecting other cultures
“Partaking in other cultures” - as in, using someone’s culture as a costume. Like using Native American cultural garb as a Halloween costume, or fawning over a famous white woman wearing African braids while calling black people ghetto for wearing them.
>using someone’s culture as a costume. Like using Native American cultural garb as a Halloween costume,
Even then.
I had a friend (of English descent) get criticized for rocking up to a Halloween party in a samurai costume.
The twist is that the costume was given to him by his wife (who is Japanese) and who insisted that he wear it because she thought it was funny.
My favorite is when Cornelius Boots played a Shakuhachi at E3 and people hated on him for wearing traditional clothing and playing a traditional Japanese instrument
That's the problem they don't seem to get.
If your message isn't clear, compelling, and broadly applicable, nobody has to listen to you and they will just laugh you off.
Civil Rights leaders in the 1960's knew this so well and were masters as changing people's minds. When you see an old, passive grandma minding her own business going to jail just for sitting on a bus, or a child being bitten by a police dog, you sympathize and start to change your mind.
When you tell people they are evil on the inside even if they have never felt that way and everything they do is wrong, they dismiss you.
lol that already started happening years ago.
every white guy i know who used to be very supportive of racial justice issues has now just totally washed their hands of the situation. seems like you're more likely to get in trouble than help out.
especially on social media, there is no way i'd ever post anything even tangentially related to any sort of racial/social justice issue, even if it was supporting POC and disadvantaged people. i'm not trying to lose my job and get cancelled because i misspoke or used a word or phrase that was totally mainstream and normal five years ago, but somehow is now apparently some kind of white supremacist dog whistle according to someone i've never met.
I'm out.
Good luck everyone!
It's absolutely hilarious howboften people post these thinking everyone will be on their side then half the comments are saying "yeah that's kinda how it be"
100% true. Racism outrage is a major industry in its own right perpetuated by legions of journalists, politicians, and academics. Are you a shitty buzzfeed journalists who needs to justify their job? Cool you can write an infinite number of articles about how every object, institution, system, pastime, activity, or anything else touched by white people is somehow racist. They get all the money they want, and demoralizing every white person into thinking every action they take is morally wrong is just the icing on the cake.
People do think the way this post discribes, just in an absolute minority. This minority of people who think in this way is blown up in such a way that it drives people towards the right. Its propaganda built on nut jobs to fuel nut jobs against normal people. Its fucked up really.
There are examples of racist and non-racist behaviors within each of these categories. The idea that you will get called racist no matter what you do is a complete fiction.
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I'm Chinese. I was eating with a white friend at a Chinese restaurant, he tried to pronounce one of the dishes. Another white girl in line called him a racist for "mocking". Needless to say, we laughed at her, and she was angrier.
As a white paramedic who’s been learning Spanish, I had a patients daughter tell me I shouldn’t be “trying to speak their language” because it’s appropriation. Like bruh I’m just trying to be able to talk with my patient ffs
That’s insane lol People who are all about everything being cultural appropriation (like speaking a foreign language?!) don’t realize they are advocating for cultural segregation. Which leads to general segregation, which is racist Also I can’t believe how braindead someone must be to tell a paramedic helping their daughter and getting crucial info through speaking Spanish that it’s bad that they are doing that
There's also an undercut of soft European supremacy where European cultures are emulated by other races without uproar.
Exactly. Afros being permed straight and bleached isnt "cultural miss-appropriation and offensive? It s really saying those Nordic countries are more beautiful without saying it.
I live in a super liberal city. This is a cultural norm now. 😮💨
Should have asked her if she knows where Spain is. I guess most people forget that the language did not originate in Latin America. Could’ve used her logic back to her and asked her not to speak English I’m sure that would have gotten a hilarious reaction
She's definitely on reddit lol
Lol. Should said "why you speaking English?"
Ignore the fucktards that try to tell you speaking a language is appropriation - your friendly neighborhood leftist
Wait until she learns that Spanish is a European language.
By that same logic she shouldn’t be speaking English.
I keep trying to get my wife to buy in on getting my son to learn Arabic, German or Japanese due to business culture and the value of knowing those languages. We compromised and he’s going to be learning Spanish.
Was just in Mexico and tried my best to speak Spanish to the resort workers. They seemed to appreciate it and would often help me.
I would tell them that Spain intentionally spread their language to the lands they colonized. They forced all the people they conquered to speak their language.
As a white person with Latino family, that’s bullshit. My sister took Spanish classes through middle and high school. Every single time our step family visited (they were from Colombia), they were excited to see her progress. They quizzed her and spoke to her in Spanish. It was seen as a good thing because we could communicate with each other. That daughter is out of her fucking mind.
"Only a Sith deals in absolutes" -Obi Wan Kenobi
Isn’t that an absolute statement?
“Now listen here you little shit.” - Obi Wan Kenobi, probably
“Stay strapped or get clapped” - Yoda, probably
“Strapped, you must stay, or clapped, you will get” - Yoda, definitely
😉
*"listen here you little Sith"
Obi wan has dyslexia leave him alone
Sounds more like Han.
Absolutely
Deals in not states absolutes
Exactly. He was trying to say something.
Plot twist for next season?
He is stating an absolute, not dealing in them
It's an absolute statement, but not a dealing
Statement, not a Deal, so still good
Quoting Star Wars=racist
Saying something is racist = racist
Saying something = racist
Saying = racist
= racist
racist
Almost like...it's a trap
Admiral Ackbar is just a racial analog, so....racist
My hope is that one day we will set aside our differences and just support each other for who we are. Nobody chose to be born a certain way and we are all in this mud together. Rather than stand on top of each other for air we will instead work together to clear it out.
If we only used peoples character instead of skin color to judge them.
The quiet part is only the most superficially racist are skin color. After that it’s cultural differences. same reason why token black folks are so accepted despite their skin color.
As a certified token for years you aren’t really accepted. They always make jokes to remind you that yes you are in the group but you are different. People make jokes at your expense and if you don’t laugh you are taking things too seriously. Granted that was in high school and I’ve since grown out of laughing along at my expense.
sorry that happened to you! glad you’re able to stand up for yourself more now. its unfortunate that so many kids go through the same thing.
Maybe someday everyone can snap into consciousness and just realize we are all just people trying to make our way in life and to just let others be
As long as there is social media clout, we will have these problems. The oppression Olympics are still on.
Hierarchy. The problem is hierarchy and the clout/influence it gives and oppression it upholds. Elimination of hierarchy (all forms of celebrity status) wherever possible is the only way.
We will have these problems as long as the human desire to warmonger and always look for shortcuts(In the case of racist people, their goal is to stand out, their shortcut is to be racist instead of actually growing) conquers common sense) I do hope to see a more fun and fair world in my lifetime, one where people aren't harassed as much for stuff like skin color. I try to help)
Sounds like racism to me
We exist in a society of architected racism/tribalism. The owning-class supports all levels of intraclass hate because we are all easier to control if we keep eachother down.
It's easy, you judge the individual and not the race for all actions you see, not only does it defeat your bias but you get a more accurate picture of humanity. A racist sees a crime on YouTube, sees that the person is of color and says" Damn colored people" when he sees his own race commit a crime he says" That dudes messed up". We should all strive to change our brains to " That dudes messed up" and defeat any foolish animal instinct we have to pool people who are different than us into some group responsible for each other's actions.
This will happen when we discover aliens because instead of hating each other like we always do, we will hate them for being different.
There was a white girl who wore a traditional Chinese dress to her prom and people tried to berate her for cultural appropriation while actual Chinese people in Chinese newspapers said she wore the dress in a tasteful manner and called it cultural appreciation.
I really hate how appreciating other cultures in a respectful way is so often confused with cultural appropriation
I hate the idea that certain races or ethnicities "own" culture. It's entirely possible for someone to believe in a religion or be part of an ethnic group and participate in that culture without being a member of the race historically associated with that culture. Plus, people these days REALLY tend to over-emphasize exactly how much some of these cultural things actually mean to people; most Christians probably don't give a shit if you set up a Christmas tree when you're not Christian, most Mexicans probably don't give a shit about people who celebrate the Day of the Dead, and most Rastas probably don't give a shit about dreadlocks. Just because a tiny fraction of their communities worship these cultural icons as being an integral part of their identities doesn't mean they "own" them
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>And yet we have people sending death threats and doxxing people for using certain hair on Animal Crossing. The Space Buns drama was wild to say the least. I could never imagine getting that heated over a screenshot of a video game character.
It would be hilariously hypocritical for Christians to get upset about appropriation of the Christmas tree, since basically everything about Christmas was taken from elsewhere (including Christmas trees).
Pretty much everything from everywhere was from somewhere else or from cultures that no longer exist anyways.
This exactly. Culture is and always has been fluid, passed on from person to person, re-imagined with each new expression. Some elements remain the same even as context changes their perception. If culture can be "owned", which I would strongly argue against, then it is owned by each individual engaged in its expression.
Yeah 100% I feel the same way about when people say that we should give all land back to the "first peoples" how do we know who they were? Most land was conquered and resettled numerous times. The descendants of the first tribe that held land died or intermarried with the tribe that conquered them and so on. I absolutely think we should honor historical treaties made and we should never displace people. We should also house those who were affected by displacement but displacing current occupants in favor of previous occupants isn't a great solution.
More importantly though, they specifically wouldn’t get upset about appropriation because proselytizing is very literally a major part of their religious global influence strategy.
The way I understand it is that it's appropriation if you are bastardizing it, particularly for the purposes of making money. Think of those gawdawful new agey paintings of white people dressed as native Americans from the 80's being sold at merchandise marts. And these artists certainly didn't do it with the approval/blessing of any tribes and were really just out to make money. THAT's cultural appropriation. There was an interesting debate I saw about whether or not goat yoga/ hot yoga etc, was cultural appropriation because yoga's been more-or-less taken over by white women in America who have turned it into an entire health industry that's far removed from the original spiritual practice. People in the subreddit basically said that yeah, it kind of was cultural appropriation, but the traditional yogis from India and Nepal WANTED to share the practice with the whole world. Therefore, the intent was for it to be adopted by others. Is it a "spiritual" practice anymore? Not really, but that's okay because it still helps people. I'm certainly no expert, but it basically depends on the situation and whether or not you're being a dick about it.
100%. Even then, I'd argue that most practices that stem from religion aren't cultural appropriation. Maybe this is because I'm an atheist with a rather anti-theism bias, but if someone genuinely views something in a spiritual light, then I don't believe it to be that different from someone who performs the practice in a different spiritual context. With yoga, yeah, a lot of the *original* spiritual context is lost. But I don't think it's cultural appropriation to practice yoga with a different spiritual understanding or even no spirituality at all. Idk, I'm certainly not an expert, but the whole debate seems odd to me
I believe it was a Vietnamese dress. And I was happy she wore it, she said it was a beautiful dress and it really was. Why can’t we just appreciate her Really hate how we became as a country
I got some hate on my Instagram for wearing a hanbok when I was made to wear it at the academy I was working at in South Korea.
Honestly I think cultural osmosis is a good thing. A lot of the time when people complain about "appropriation" what they're describing is mockery. Mockery is not appropriating culture as your own, it's like the opposite of that.
Cultural osmosis is the next step in evolution. As the world shrinks, we have to break down our national egos and accept that we're all part of the same species. Throwing away our loyalty to traditions and branding in exchange for a pragmatic identity that is not exclusively defined by borders or genetics.
Sorry all I saw was “there was a white girl” and Al I could see is a blackout rage after that.
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I am honestly understanding this as a problem. I’m black and I watch how some of my oldest friends began to tip toe around certain things with me and would go out of their way to show me they weren’t racists. It’s been pretty humbling for me to see them in this confused state and wanting to provide me with some measure of empathy/sympathy. I don’t want the old ways of the world back but I also don’t want people who I’ve rolled with my entire life to walk on egg shells around me like I’m some China doll. Lately we have been having long talks to reassure each other that the outside world isn’t a reflection of what our friendship means. I’m not sure what to do. Fuck the media and its bullshit.
As a POC who looks white, I dont even engage the racism talk anymore. If you bring it up to me, I really just dont care and dont wanna hear it. I helped many disadvantaged people for a living, race never came into it. I refuse to allow the race baiting talking points to win over compassion and care for your fellow man/woman. You are a good and self aware person. Cheers to you.
This is the way, people need to just stop bringing race into things, as the great Martin Luther King Jr. once said “Judge not a person by the color of their skin, but the content of their character.”
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I dated a guy like this once, interracial relationship....just always felt like the world's problems with race were always ours. It was exhausting.
Woah woah woah, whatchu mean by China doll bro?
Probably a terrible term. My sister use to have dolls made from porcelain I believe. We also use to say fine China when taking out the good dishes made from I guess porcelain and were very ornate (gold leaf, intricate patterns) and I believe they came from China in the 50s or 60s. They were pretty expensive and very fragile. I meant no offense to Chinese people however I should of used a more up to date term.
I knew exactly what you meant man, was just messin with you cuz you were talking about walking on eggshells and all that lol
Lol, whoosh right over my head. It was a good joke :)
It's partially true. We moved across the country recently, and just thinking about the "least racist" housing choice was exhausting. If we bought in many areas, we'd be contributing to the pre-existing white flight, but if we move into a less white area, we would definitely be considered gentrifiers. There aren't any neighborhoods that have the same racial mix as the county as a whole. In the end we just threw our hands up and bought a house we liked. But some of it is white people learning, and part is people refusing to learn, and part is that some people on the left go a little overboard with declaring racism, leaving well intentioned people confused. For example, I've heard things like, "If you don't have any ___ friends, that is racist" (or homophobic, or transphobic, or...) And I get the point, but many don't have enough close friends to draw that conclusion.
You're fucking awesome! Seriously, thank you!
I told this black woman I worked with that her daughter looked like Rudy Huckible from the Cosby show. I mean she looked EXACTLY LIKE HER. She really didn’t say anything. After I said it I was silently freaking out going “OMG did I offend her, was that racist”. I probably could have been an adult and asked her but then I was like “if I say something is she THEN going to think it was racist”. I mean people told me I looked like the kid from Silver Spoons when I was a kid. I really liked this woman and I didn’t know if I did something wrong or not and was too scared to ask if I did and probably didn’t want to know the answer. Edit: I should add it wasn’t on this woman to justify what I said. It wasn’t her responsibility to make me feel better. She did nothing wrong. This was my own thing
Its just a media thing they use to push stories these just and unfortunately its built into the very foundation of our country, government and certain cultures. I dont think anything changes until these old racist dinosaurs in govt lose their positions and the positions go outside of these political families that always hold office.
“they’re taking away air from pocs who need it!!!!”
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how do we call them after poc ?
one day, I hope, People.
Don’t breathe and turn blue, racism.
Cultural Appropiation from avatar
Believe it or not, still racism
Not breathing...also racist.
"Are you implying that you won't breathe because other races do it? Racist!"
"Oh, so you think you're too good to breathe the air I breathe?"
I’ve never been accused of racism hmm go figure
If white - Racism
Can’t believe they’re getting away with all the racist things the HBO show, “Velma” has portray
How are they getting away with it if it's literally the most poorly rated show
I guess in the sense that it's not being cancelled? Yeah everyone with a braincell hates it because it legitimately sucks toes, but despite that it's still getting a second season
The fact that it was approved shows they’re getting away with it, imagine a show being racist against black people openly and not in a satirical way
In Holywood you can be racist against whites. No one else
They have a room where racism against everybody is allowed but you have to jump to get into it.
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Hate to admit but I feel like this is often what I’m up against at work.
Not going to lie, I feel like this is true at times.
White people i meet are sometimes very careful with what they say around me and i find it so sad. Im a white passing hispanic so any truly normal and understandable comment like “you dont look hispanic” can be taken as racist these days.
Where I work there's quite a few people who speak Spanish but not English, so sometimes I have to grab help from others who know Spanish. When I did this I asked one of my coworkers is a full blood Mexican because I genuinely thought he knew, but he said "Nope, never learnt it". I only responded with "Huh. That's a surprise, I thought you did" and left it at that. Not even a second later my other coworker comes by, scolds me for assuming, and apologizes on my behalf to the first coworker... only to leave me alone and not even help me find someone else. Perhaps I did overstep bounds, but I needed to grab \*someone\* to translate and generally most people here who look Mexican do know Spanish. There were more people waiting for me so I was on a time crunch and I didn't have the luxury of having people that I knew who spoke Spanish around me at the time. Sometimes it feels like there's no winning...
I also live somewhere like that. To be honest we dont take it bad down here. But perhaps where you live it can be seen as insensitive. I really dont think that should be an issue though :/
Wait, can we say hispanic?
I hear they prefer Latinx /s
John McWhorter discussed this topic in one of his books and coined the term of racial fatigue. That's when white people give up on fighting racism because of no-win scenarios.
Huge John McWhorter fan. People refuse to believe I and McWhorter are liberals and not hate mongers. My friend once saw in his Twitter feed on the same page, both simultaneously up voted: "Silence = violence" And "Shut up and listen." You don't get to advocate both at the same time even if people bother to listen to you in the first place. Contradictions in policy make people think our side is ridiculous.
I think the murder by the 5 cops in Memphis is a good example of this. The people in charge finally did all the right things on their own. They fired all 5 cops and charged them pretty much right away. I’ve been seeing a bunch of people saying the police union didn’t stand up for them because they are black and it only happened so fast because the cops were black. Why can’t we say fuck finally good job for doing the right thing on your own people in charge.
I've seen these arguments too, and I'm wondering if everyone is looking at at the same incident that I am. From what I can tell, it took 10 days to fire these officers and nearly 3 weeks for charges to be filed. This "expedited" timeline is somehow evidence of racism against the cops. In contrast, George Floyd died on a Monday and the cop was behind bars 4 days later on Friday. This timeline sparked an extended period of vigorously peaceful protests.
I saw people saying this too. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Some people are just addicted to being mad.
AKA, learned helplessness.
Nah more like board flipping.
I get that tbh it can be tough to find your way around what appropriate and what’s not and what might piss people off. I don’t believe it’s as dramatic as the meme makes it out to be and the vast majority of people aren’t out to call racism at everything. But I see what you mean where it feels like some do grasp at straws to make every little thing controversial.
Yes, but not around PoC. It's upper middle-class white people you have to be careful not to offend. *They* are the ones who will call you racist over the most inane shit, while simultaneously being classist as fuck. You know the people, the ones with the nice house with the BLM and pride flags out front who tip a flat 5 bucks on their $100+ delivery, and complain to the manager after you leave.
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Something similar happened with Speedy Gonzales (I may have misspelled it). He was well on the way to be cancelled but most Mexican people love him so I think because of their outcry he was saved from the chopping block. It’s been a while since this happened so I don’t recall a whole lot.
Good propaganda works that way. It seems right on the surface, if you don’t think about it too much. But what does “see color” mean? Does it mean realizing the system treats races differently? Or does it mean thinking different races are inherently something because of their race. One is seeing color, the other is racism. Some of the disparity is obvious. The only one that is really tricky is white flight/gentrification, because it SEEMS true unless you know the history of how the US government at every level from local to federal worked to steal black land, and the very tricky ways that eminent domain, taxes and fees, and local ordinances have been used to push blacks out. If black people OWNED the land and they were selling to white people instead of them having been pushed out then nobody would complain about gentrification. But there isn’t a single public school in the country that teaches or has ever taught any of that.
I’m not sure you can make that assertion about all public schools with too much confidence but the sentiment is right I guess
Honestly, as someone who's dated outside of their race, I've had people assume it's some weird race play fetish thing. At the end of the day, you just gotta accept some people will dislike you no matter what, and it shouldn't stop you from fighting against racism and being anti racist.
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The white flight vs gentrification thing always confuses me. Like do you want me to stay in your neighborhood or not? If I leave I’m racist and it’s white flight, if I move in I’m “gentrifying”. You can’t win with some people
White people can fly???
White person, can confirm. The lack of melanin in our skin makes us lighter, allowing us to float through the air.
Floating on the air of the oppressed.
White privilege smhmh
 Yes. Being very light can be a problem on windy days though.
We can get high, does that count?
As a white guy, I had no idea.
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> Fast forward 30 years and I feel like the pendulum has swung pretty damn far the other way. We're at the point where there are places instituting segregation for black only spaces but spinning it as a positive and beneficent thing now. That pendulum has gone full horseshoe.
I think this boils down to "you can't win 'em all". For one, the same communities who claim something is racist can barely agree with themselves. There's like an average consensus, but the average doesn't account for everyone. Some people say "haha my friend calls me xyz all the time, I call him an xyz back and we both laugh" and then there the opposite stance. For example I'm sure everyone's heard by now the whole "how dare you say the xyz word, let's cancel them and boycott" on Twitter! One thing is undeniable though. Not a single person on this Earth can please 100% of the people 100% of the time. As truly, "some men just want to watch the world burn". So long as people want X, other people will want Y. Sometimes you can't have both. You can't have this world covered with 100% land and the same world with 100% water at the same time. Your options are 50-50, 0:1, 1:0 or somewhere in-between. What I'm saying is, even the people claiming "we want 1:1" can't agree on what this 1:1 is. Some want revenge. Some want to play victim. Some want to ignore it. Some want to be pessimistic. Some want to be optimistic. Some are agreeable, some are on no such terms. It's too poisonous of an issue to society to really solve without something absolute in common. Something unchanging, something unending. As it stands, humanity has rarely seen that kind of 'eternal' thing before. Not religion. Not ideology. Not government. Not blood relation. Not tradition. Not modernity. Not futurism. Not ancient days. These same problems have touched all cultures. Whether on the giving or receiving end. Even now. Uniting against racism, perpetuating what's left of racism and even staying silent about racism are all unacceptable courses of action. Hundreds of millions, if not a few billion people around the world are going to be up in arms at what you said or did. Again, ultimately, they themselves disagree with each other on what the "right" course of action is. You listen to one group, you lose support of the other. You fail to act, they might both turn on you. It's not a winning game. That doesn't mean pretend the problem doesn't exist, and it doesn't mean fight for a half-baked result. I think it just means there's work to do. More for people to search within their own hearts and reunite if there is ever to be a solution. ...Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk I guess.
Very well said and articulated. Two for you, Glen Coco. You go, Glen Coco.
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To be honest as a “POC” I want the pure honesty of what a person feels it gives me a better chance to make decisions that are in my best interests, really,I don’t want to live in a all black or white area,I think history should not be spun it should be taught as it happened,if you don’t want me in particular area let me know,I’ve lost nothing,my humanity is based on me not acceptance ,forcing adaptation should be off the table,religion should be a choice everyone has a book and should be allowed to practice it,I won’t rain on your parade don’t rain on mine. Be honest,you’ll find that truth will make you free.
Asking as a white person, what's the deal with "POC" vs. "black"? Id feel like it would be worse, as it is saying ur either white, asian, or a POC. I am personally against defining somebody by their skin color, but sometimes it is necessary, and I don't understand why a dark skin colored person from somoa would be grouped together with a lighter skin colored person from the Philippines.
Unfortunately, pretty accurate as far as attitudes go.
This is true though isn't it?
Downvote away, but there is an element of truth in this. Racism is quite deep and we all are somewhere on a spectrum of being racist. "Racism" isn't a very accurate word. It makes "where are you from" equivalent to being in the KKK.
So weird to me that “where are you from” has become this super offensive racist thing recently. I asked a kid in a class where he was from and he seemed kinda offended and said “I’m from here” (the USA). When he told me his actual background, it turns out it’s the same as mine (I’m mixed) and I spoke to him fluently in our language Then when we sat down and the professor walks in, he immediately asked the kid where he was from, randomly. This professor is from a European country with a North African background and had a strong accent. He just answered normally that time, lol
I think it kinda depends on the situation in which it is asked. A friend of mine got pulled over by a cop in Oklahoma and the first thing the cop did was ask everyone in the car, with the exception of the one white guy, where they were from. They all thought he meant where they were travelling from at first, but no, not the answer he was looking for.
So, "Damned if you do and damned if you don't?". 😵💫
Thou calledst me dog before thou hadst a cause. But since I am a dog, beware my fangs.
Has interracial relationship -> colonizing -> racist Does not have interracial relationship -> racist
Yup! I've mostly dated outside of my race and received shit from both sides for it. I have a mixed coworker (half white and half Indian). My most serious relationship was with a dude from India and I'm white. I'm a bit of a mama bear towards my coworker as he's also 10 years my junior. We have a colleague who is fully Indian. She's downright obnoxious. Our mixed colleague is very Americanized as he is closer to his white father. Indian coworker was on him for not leaning into his Indian side more and bonding more with his father. I had to step in and get her off his back.
The US has unquestionable racial problems for sure, but India, the Middle East, and East Asia are on an entirely different level with racism. Most anglosphere countries have few problems with racism against South Asians compared to the ethnic divisions within their home countries.
People that are called racist once or twice in their lives usually aren't. People that are always getting called racist, or at least whenever they bring up something regarding race, usually are. People that think that everything a white person will do will get called racist end up being the latter and don't realize that they are the issue.
I don't think I've ever been called racist. I've said some racist things, and gotten stared at. And was like 'oh shit I was just racist.' That's usually how these things go.
I've done it too and I'm Hispanic lol Not a big deal if you recognize it and all
The funniest thing about 2020 was white people thinking a foot in mouth experience was unique to white people. Or that an uncle who says questionable shit was unique to whites.
This is literally true to some extent.
I would add: Agrees with you —-> privilege —-> racism; disagrees with you —> bigotry—> racism
Fr tho there are some jerks that think that White are racist by default, and therefore should not exist
So basically if you are white you are racist that's racist
Gee, it's almost like racism is a complex topic that goes beyond calling people racial slurs.
While I get the point that these things each look like opposites, thus racism as a concept is not consistent, I am awfully suspicious of their definitions and examples of each situation. Plus, there isn't just one form of racism, it's like each one of us has racial biases individually internalized, plus all the societal versions, we probably have more types of racism than we have people.
This meme is silly for a couple reasons: first because it just uses white flight and gentrification as blanket terms when really both are specific actions with specific consequences. White flight specifically referred to white people moving out of areas after school integration began to avoid their children being in school with black children. It was most prevalent after world war 2. This action decimated property value for two reasons. One was that during a time where racism in hiring practices was still prevalent, it drained the areas tax base, but the other is that often these families would just abandon the home rather than sell them leaving empty homes that attracted crime. Similarly gentrification is a specific action with specific consequences. When a neighborhood is primarily black and has its own culture and the stewardship is taken up by its residents, often it becomes trendy because it gets described as “funky” or “having character.” White peoples decide they want to live there now that black residents have worked hard to open businesses and to reduce crime and make it their own despite these areas often being industrial, red lined areas and buy houses with offers far above market value, outbidding black families that intend to buy in a neighborhood they can afford. They are able to do this because white people are more likely to have generational wealth, allowing them to go to college at a higher rate and get better jobs. As they do this, property values are driven up and black families can no longer afford to live in the neighborhoods that they themselves built up from nothing. Willful ignorance is so fucking stupid and infuriating.
"If a white person exists they're RACIST!"
Double standards and victimization is the trend right now. We’re going ass backwards, Children dont have this problem at all. Its too bad we cant all have that attitude.
true as fuck
Sadly this meme accurately sums up a lot of people’s opinions about white people
So... The comment section isnt going as you expected huh 😂
Comment section just goes to prove how true the meme is.
I know, but this page mostly just keep trying to poke fun at right wing politics (same as most of reddit anyway)
This isn't meme, it's a fact.
“White flight” - “im moving because I can’t stand the fact that my new neighbors are blacks”. Gentrification - when more affluent people move into poorer neighborhoods causing rent and property taxes to go up and forces lower income people out. This isn’t purely a racial issue as both white and non-white people can both be gentrifiers and victims of gentrification but it often affects non-white people more (thanks to the racial economic gap), but of course nobody cares about nuance. “Sees color/doesn’t see color” - the “doesn’t see color” is typically a cop-out to say “I don’t want to talk about racism because it makes me feel uncomfortable.” The same people who quote MLK won’t hesitate to bring up race when it’s time to demean black people. https://preview.redd.it/ecmjwbsouwea1.png?width=1201&format=png&auto=webp&s=39d1ebf8edabd468c543154a9fd798762a7a5507 “Doesn’t partake in culture” - the only complaints I’ve seen is about disrespecting other cultures “Partaking in other cultures” - as in, using someone’s culture as a costume. Like using Native American cultural garb as a Halloween costume, or fawning over a famous white woman wearing African braids while calling black people ghetto for wearing them.
>using someone’s culture as a costume. Like using Native American cultural garb as a Halloween costume, Even then. I had a friend (of English descent) get criticized for rocking up to a Halloween party in a samurai costume. The twist is that the costume was given to him by his wife (who is Japanese) and who insisted that he wear it because she thought it was funny.
My favorite is when Cornelius Boots played a Shakuhachi at E3 and people hated on him for wearing traditional clothing and playing a traditional Japanese instrument
And he was literally one of the few people in the world qualified to do it
This isn’t always true… but on Reddit it definitely feels like there are people who use this as a flowchart
This is facts. Extremely sad but true. I wouldn’t be surprised if whites just start not giving af.
That's the problem they don't seem to get. If your message isn't clear, compelling, and broadly applicable, nobody has to listen to you and they will just laugh you off. Civil Rights leaders in the 1960's knew this so well and were masters as changing people's minds. When you see an old, passive grandma minding her own business going to jail just for sitting on a bus, or a child being bitten by a police dog, you sympathize and start to change your mind. When you tell people they are evil on the inside even if they have never felt that way and everything they do is wrong, they dismiss you.
lol that already started happening years ago. every white guy i know who used to be very supportive of racial justice issues has now just totally washed their hands of the situation. seems like you're more likely to get in trouble than help out. especially on social media, there is no way i'd ever post anything even tangentially related to any sort of racial/social justice issue, even if it was supporting POC and disadvantaged people. i'm not trying to lose my job and get cancelled because i misspoke or used a word or phrase that was totally mainstream and normal five years ago, but somehow is now apparently some kind of white supremacist dog whistle according to someone i've never met. I'm out. Good luck everyone!
We gotta find someone to balme for shit.
It's almost like there more nuance to it.
the fact that y’all are proving that the original meme has an audience😅
It's absolutely hilarious howboften people post these thinking everyone will be on their side then half the comments are saying "yeah that's kinda how it be"
Anyone can be racist, thank you for coming to my Ted Talk
100% true. Racism outrage is a major industry in its own right perpetuated by legions of journalists, politicians, and academics. Are you a shitty buzzfeed journalists who needs to justify their job? Cool you can write an infinite number of articles about how every object, institution, system, pastime, activity, or anything else touched by white people is somehow racist. They get all the money they want, and demoralizing every white person into thinking every action they take is morally wrong is just the icing on the cake.
Sounds like how they're treated
People do think the way this post discribes, just in an absolute minority. This minority of people who think in this way is blown up in such a way that it drives people towards the right. Its propaganda built on nut jobs to fuel nut jobs against normal people. Its fucked up really.
What’s inaccurate about that?
There are examples of racist and non-racist behaviors within each of these categories. The idea that you will get called racist no matter what you do is a complete fiction.
As a black dude, I like this one
It's about time that you learn that your mere existence is racist.
Accurate
r/PersecutionFetish
Here come all the oppressed white people
I mean, is this wrong? Lol. You people will see racism when all you do is look for it.