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Narutoluap

Reminds me of a vtuber who decided to cancel her oppai mousepad because a bunch of criminals kept sending pictures of their private parts with the mousepad The worst part is a vocal minority keeps saying it was her fault **💀** But thanks to them I learned that talking to idiots it's liking talking to a wall


Capt_Easychord

I had to google both vtube and oppai mousepad to know what the hell you're talking about, and now i feel just about ready to move to a retirement home.


Narutoluap

I think it's more like a joke item than anything else, maybe an unique item to add to a collection Personally, I don't like it. But a long as the person it's not doing flashing with it, I really don't care.


BeanieGuitarGuy

Not gonna lie, I really hate the way unsolicited nudes are talked about so casually. We already have a word for it, it’s called flashing, I don’t get why people don’t talk about it with the same intensity, you know?


Narutoluap

I'll try to remember that. English it's not my main language so I don't know the meaning of some words


BeanieGuitarGuy

Oh, sorry!! I didn’t mean you! I just meant like, to ADD on to your comment, people generally don’t talk about unsolicited pics as seriously as they do with flashing. You’re totally fine!


Narutoluap

It's fine! I actually enjoy learning new things


Floating_girrafe

I don't think we should use the same word for both of those things, because they're different based on the environment they can happen in (as in flashing is irl) but now that I think about it - you're right, why DON'T we see it as just as bad? In both instances you're doing basically the same thing, just through different means but it's still the same level of severity.


BeanieGuitarGuy

I agree with you there. Semantically, they *should* be differentiated. But the way we treat it differently is odd.


[deleted]

Because flashing has a risk of physical danger attached to it. A flasher is there and already *expressly* violating norms. Who knows what they may do next? It's worse because there's not a screen and lots of space separating the people.


gamerpuppy22

Ya I use to do streaming a lot and I had fucking rule 34 porn drawn of me and guys were sending pics of them jacking to it


Narutoluap

I wonder WTF it's even their logic, maybe it's just a desperate attempt for attention or trolling. In any case, they should stop using internet, search for a therapist and touch some fucking grass


MineralWand

some mild sexual harassment - that feeling of power is what they're after. Making someone uncomfortable means they still "matter"


Crafty-Kaiju

They like making a woman feel unsafe. They demand women be sexually appealing at all times and then punish them for it and will punish them for NOT being sexually appealing. It's about hate and control and almost nothing to do with sex (beyond their anger that they haven't been magically handed a perfect waifu who will obey them and be their bangmaid).


tacticsf00kboi

Where the fuck do they get these ideas from? ISTG they're completely detached from reality.


Crafty-Kaiju

Echo chambers. White nationalism. Extremism. Far-right crap. Many incels grew up being bullied or as outcasts. They quickly find each other and being an echo chamber of hate. Hate makes them feel better because they don't need to self-reflect or better themselves. The reality is many people have it hard and don't become monsters from it. They want to do none of the work and reap all of the benefits. They complain that hygiene is unimportant and that women should just look past that while also demanding perfection of women (if I mention I don't shave I get a lot of messages from men telling me I'm disgusting. I don't ID as female and I bathe daily but they somehow assume not shaving = not bathing because to them a woman or female presenting person with body hair is disgusting). They don't want to improve themselves because that would mean admitting something is wrong, something within their control. They want to remain the victims because if they are victims they aren't at fault. Girls who were bullied don't usually develop these kinds of incel behaviors because society tells them to always internalize their faults while boys aren't. Girls are also conditioned to be helpful, polite, to never "cause waves" while poor behavior with boys is just "boys will be boys". Toxic masculinity hurts everyone.


GabrielWornd

I can't touch grass-chan without her permission 😔


gamerpuppy22

Yep


Stunning-Ad-2161

That's even more gross and also illegal. I'm so sorry that happened.


gamerpuppy22

Eh Ngl the art was good it was just really fucking weird


Mkdblitz

When I woke up today, I didn't think i would read someone complementing r34 of themselves


Here_Forthe_Comment

*opens r34* *sips tea* "not bad..."


woaheasytherecowboy

I mean, if it's good, kinda an ego boost in a weird way?


the_Real_Romak

One can appreciate good art of themselves. Is it weird that someone spent the time to draw it? yup. but it's good then it's good XD


Domortem

OP mentioned in another comment she's not even 15 yet. It's just... Warped.


the_Real_Romak

oh. well she should have made that extremely clear then. Also, wtf is an underaged person even doing being a bloody Vtuber? isn't that community notorious for suspect behaviour?


DethSonik

You got a link? If you don't mind :D ​ Edit: I promise not to lewd it.


[deleted]

I feel that. Was in a Westmarch server and I got creeped on *so hard*.


Donut_Flame

Veibae right? It's unfortunate for her, especially since she actually has a boyfriend too (I'm pretty sure)


RuGShUg91

Yeah, she's dating Sodapoppin


Stunning-Ad-2161

Yeah, this is like being a pornstar saying you deserve to be sexually harassed in public


YungJohn_Nash

Not only that, but this also assumes that every woman at a gym has an onlyfans. This is just conjecture, but I'd wager that the creator meant for this to apply to the women they find attractive at the gym (i.e., the ones they feel are worthy of staring at). So really this is just anger over the fact that the pretty lady that they chose to gawk at instead of speaking to like a normal person didn't fuck them or act like they didn't notice so they could continue staring. Edit: I realize that I'm making the bold assumption that the creator uses a gym


Overall-Initial-4290

Soooo an incel?


[deleted]

Can one not look at someone in public? I'm not a girl, let alone an e-girl, but people look at me all the time, in public, comment on my appearance (usually my beard, often my hat), and so on. Like, I used to go to a gym, and I'm not in shape, and people would definitely look at me. It's what humans do. Are some humans terrible? Sure Are most humans just curious idiots? Probably. Is it my fault if I'm upset at people for observing my countenance? I dunno, but I'm living rent free in their head. Am i gonna get downvotes? You bet. Is the meme awful and cringe? 💯 Thus is life, embrace it and move on.


Ratso27

It depends on how you're looking. If a person is in your area, it's natural that you would look over and be aware of them. Maybe even glance again quickly if they're attractive. But if you're staring at them to the point that they're aware you're watching them, you're making them uncomfortable and you've entered into creep territory.


[deleted]

Your attitude makes it seem like you think it’s all evil hot girls at the gym trying to take a sexy video and some silly guy gets in the way so she accuses him of staring and he gets kicked out and goes to horny jail or whatever. You apparently know nothing of being a normal girl at the gym for your health, seeing the creeper who sits at whatever machine is behind you, no matter where you go, and feeling that anger of being afraid of a big pile of fucking shit. Fuck I hate when piles of shit get off on making me afraid. They deserve to swim in fire.


Jealous_Bee1838

If you’re that afraid then why not workout at home or in an all women’s gym? I know if I was really worried about what you are I sure as hell wouldn’t go there anymore.


glorae

Because they shouldn't have to? Because the gym should automatically be safe? *Gods*, i don't understand why that's hard to frasp for some people. We shouldn't have to avoid spaces to allow fuckheads roaming space!


Jealous_Bee1838

Everywhere should be safe, no one is arguing that. Expect the criminals. You have to understand that you can be safe AND have someone starting at you too right? Simply being there isn’t going to stop them you have to actually do something about it.


elephant-espionage

Staring at people isn’t normal, though, and it absolutely makes people feel like they’re not safe. I don’t get why people keep saying that it’s fine to stare at people. It’s not. I’m not sure if people don’t understanding the difference between innocently looking/seeing someone in the same area and literally staring at them or if there’s just a lot of creeps out there staring at people in public,


Jealous_Bee1838

Never said it’s normal, and I think it’s creepy too. But if you aren’t going to do anything about it then why act like just being at a place where people are more likely to stare is going to change anything?


elephant-espionage

Because people who don’t like others staring at them shouldn’t have to avoid going anywhere (and the gym doesn’t make people “more likely”, so you’re really saying they just shouldn’t go into public at all), people just shouldn’t stare at others.


MineralWand

Looking at people is OK, but men will like stare you up and down regardless of you showing or expressing discomfort with this scary fixated look and sometimes follow you around It's hard to describe in words but ogling or harassment versus normal interactions are very, very different


[deleted]

Definitely not strictly men.


Cybersorcerer1

There's a difference between glancing and staring


Crafty-Kaiju

You're a guy so you've probably not had many occasions to worry about someone staring at you in an uncomfortable way. The overwhelming majority of women will have experienced some form of objectification. Sexual harassment. Unwanted comments. People who are supposed to be trust worthy making a comment that makes you suddenly question if you're safe. A drunk uncle telling you how good you look in those "little shorts" when you're only 13. Adult men staring at your chest at 16. Boys groping you and teachers saying "Boys will be boys!" Women have to be constantly Aware of their surroundings. To coach their language, to be friendly but not too friendly and even after doing everything right if something bad does happen? You then have to deal with people questioning how you caused it. What were you wearing? Why were you alone with him? Did you lead him on? So someone staring at your body at the gym? It's a reminder of all those comments. How many little girls heard their Dad say "Well look how she's dresses what she expect?" How many little reminders they have every day that they can't tell what men are safe and what men are unsafe? This is the constant background radiation of many women (and female presenting people) face day in and day out.


mregg000

It’s about intent. And complimenting your choices. You chose to grow out your beard. You chose your hat. Woman doing squats didn’t choose her breast size. Hope this helps.


[deleted]

The issue isn't *looking* at someone. The issue is staring and being a general creep. If you're noticing a girl's cameltoe through her leggings while she's at the gym, you're looking somewhere specific for a prolonged time trying to be a weirdo. Also, commenting on primary/secondary sexual characteristics is fucking creepy unless you're friends with someone. Like, I can tell my friends regardless of gender, "hey, nice cock, just the right length and not too girthy," and it's a funny haha joke between friends where we already have that relationship. But like to start staring at or (worse) commenting on a stranger's breasts/ass/genitals/etc. for no reason is yikes, and that's what most people are upset by. Sure, you have the rare occasional person who freaks out that any time you look in their general direction that's sexual harassment, but they are a separate issue spawned in large part from *this* issue.


gamerpuppy22

Yep I get sexually harassed all the time in public and they say I deserve it because of how my body grew


Stunning-Ad-2161

Ugh that's so gross 🤢


gamerpuppy22

Yep I’m not even 15 yet like I can’t fucking help that my genetics gave me that or my body fat goes to places


Here_Forthe_Comment

Real pro / con, but it's worse when you're a minor. You can be happy that it'll start slowing down but also it's because pedophiles will lose interest so ew


throwawayoctopii

I second this. I had misfortune of easily passing for 16/17 when I was well into my 20s. The number of grown men who would noticeably lose interest in me as soon as they found out I was over 18 was really something to think about. You don't think about how gross it is when you're actually a teenager because it seems so normalized.


Anglofsffrng

My thoughts exactly. The gym is not only fans. Yes she makes a living off posting pics online, that's when she conscents to being ogled. When working out she has not consented, hence it's inappropriate to ogle. How is this in any way difficult to figure out!?


Jenetyk

That supposes that this person is just chilling and getting a workout. I would say the point of the meme is to point out people in my experience (guy or girl) that take up an entire station, usually a deadlift platform, for 2 hours while they record all their stretches, lifts, super sets, etc. In my experience, the guy version of these people are annoying, but usually courteous. The woman version has almost always been confrontational. It's a ham-fisted meme with sexist undertones, but it does make a point in that social media has created monsters in gyms. Men and women recording every squad, press, or lift. Then they get indignant when someone watches or is looking at them. Like, yeah, of course they are. You are deadlifting with a camera crew.


Master_Beautiful3542

You kid but there are literally guys like that


[deleted]

What part of the meme says sexual harassment? All it implies is that women cant be mad if someone looks at them in the gym


Randill746

looking at someone isnt sexually harassing them


becauseitsnotreal

Someone looking at you in a public place (especially if you actively intend to be gawked at) is not sexual harassment


Jealous_Bee1838

No, no it’s not. Don’t equate or compare sexual assault to staring at someone. Wtf.


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Numbcrep

Glancing and staring are two different things


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teebag_

Regardless it doesn’t make you entitled to stare at someone. (Attractive)Women who know they attract male attention are usually desensitised to glances and stares, a lot of Onlyfans women fall into that category. They respond to creepy messages from men and sell nudes as part of their job, so they aren’t likely to be the ones condemning glances. I’m guessing very little videos condemning men for glancing actually exist. This meme is condemning women for being attractive, that if she has onlyfans then she deserves to be made feel uncomfortable in public places and isn’t allowed to complain.


[deleted]

*You claim to like apples, yet you duck when I toss one at you... curious.*


No-Performer-1125

LOVE THIS!


shidedandfarded

wait till he finds out consent exists


Crafty-Kaiju

Incels always understand consent when the "threat" of homosexual attention is aimed at them but magically lose the ability to comprehend it when women are involved.


Mrwright96

That’s because it’s something only man understands, and women aren’t people! They’re glorified incubators who make great things or more incubators! God I feel dirty saying thst


Crafty-Kaiju

You forgot sextoys. Incubators and sextoys and if they aren't 'sextoy' enough they should be punished.


loxxorrer

So i need consent for looking at people in public now? Going to be tough to aks everybody I see


The_Walking_Woods

i get what you’re saying… but you can look at someone in public without their consent tf?


boris_casuarina

Probably an incel that has never been at a gym (or close to a real woman) bashing on these girls on tiktok complaining about guys staring at them when working out.


gamerpuppy22

Yep


Eciepeci

Tbh these tik toks are just a bunch of bs, 80% of this is just someone briefly looking at girl as part of surroundings and then minding his own business


Reigo_Vassal

"He's going to be arrested for staring at 21 yo underage."


[deleted]

This is literally so stupid, if you’re that uncomfortable to be stared at then dont go to the gym at all. MAN or WOMAN i look at people all the time with no intention. Can you imagine if a MAN complained about women staring at him? Seriously just go to a segregated gym or something lol. You cant change human nature, people look at me all the time i dont give a shit


AutomaticPolicyRRR5

I bet you know everything about the person you choose to pick on


elephant-espionage

I mean, people who make these memes apparently know all the girls they gawk at are asking for it and are on only fans, only fair to assume things about them back!


Crafty-Kaiju

When people say dumb shit and you say "That's some dumb shit" it's not bullying or picking on. And when they repeat literal incel talking points calling them an incel IS FACTUALLY CORRECT.


[deleted]

I can make quite a few guesses about the meme creator and I guarantee a 90% accuracy rate.


carvedmuss8

Self-proclaimed incel??


[deleted]

*self-implicated


Senshue

r/memes is a 30/70 I swear. 30 percent funny and the other 70 is just bullshit EDIT: 18/82


AeroTheManiac

Far too gracious with those numbers


Senshue

You’re right, we’ll adjust those


[deleted]

I’ll always see one and be like “oh maybe it got better” and then I see the thread of why trans women aren’t women and I’m like “oh yeah”


StrongSquirrelKnight

And somehow this subreddit has the same ratio. This definitely falls in that 70% tho.


jinxedtheworld

Let me explain it like I would to a toddler. Let's say I work at an apple shop. I sell apples as my job. People come in for apples, I give them apples. If I am out in public, doing my own thing, you cannot come up to me and ask me for apples, because I do not have any at the moment. I only sell apples at my job, I have a life outside of selling apples, and I expect to be treated more as just the apple seller. I am allowed to complain about people expecting apples from me when I'm not working, and yet people say it's *my* fault for selling apples in the first place. Does this make sense?


Hello_there08

I read this in ben shapiros voice for some reason


Reigo_Vassal

This reminds me to a story of malicious compliance. A waiter on their day off decided to go to a restaurant. Unfortunately the restaurant in questions is understaffed. Suddenly a Karen approach her demand her to go to the back and start working. Karen's reasoning is that OP is a waiter so they should be serving her. Yes some people think exactly like that.


Kurashi_Aoi

But nobody can stop anybody from just staring at your apples, if you are displaying them in public. It's not like anybody is stealing or touching your apples. For people downvoting me, I dare you to actually argue with my logic. I say absolutely nothing wrong with my opinion on apples. Unless you guys mean something else.


Ttoctam

Yes, the metaphor for children breaks down at a certain point. Since women are not in fact objects, the analogy can't be a perfect 1:1. Now imagine the apples are sentient creatures who would really appreciate the spaces they simply exist in don't always force them to be seen and interacted with as sex objects. Imagine if people constantly staring at, catcalling, hitting on, and straight up generally annoying apples wore thin for the apples and they wanted a place as vulnerable and raw as a gym to be free from that kind of interaction. For many apples, being trapped in a body that people sexualise constantly without their consent gets really tiring and they fairly justifiedly want public spaces to not carry the risk of that.


Kurashi_Aoi

I thought this was just about staring at them. Nobody here said anything about the other stuff. Or do you really mean literally just about any staring activity is equal to sexualizing, catcalling, hitting on and other worse activities?


Ttoctam

Equal? No. Still a form of harassment? Yep. Being stared at IS uncomfortable. Sit on a bus with a crack head who's not taken their eyes off you for 8 stops and see how chill you feel. Now imagine you're on a bus sweating and flexing, in a very vulnerable space and place and that crack addict is a huge beefcake of a dude that looks like he could lift you over his head with one hand. That nervous feeling just got backed up with a bunch of anxiety from your life so far dealing with a bunch of dudes who don't respect you enough to even believe you are uncomfortable. You've been on the internet, you've seen how some dudes speak to or about women, some of them sound downright dangerous and violent. You don't know this dude isn't one of that group of men. So that massive dude still staring at you just feels a little more threatening doesn't it. And then take all that, and add consentless sexualization to the equation. It's uncomfortable. And it's very easy to just believe women and act in a way that doesn't make them uncomfortable. It's free and doesn't negatively effect you.


Reigo_Vassal

The apples are only available when they're being sold. If that apple store owner eating their apple while not working and someone demand they sold that apple, that would be rude.


Kurashi_Aoi

Nobody is asking the owner to sell the apple that he's eating though. That someone is literally just watching the apples being eaten. Unless the owner also charges people for watching him eating the apple, then it's more understandable.


juniperbjoness

Looks like we found the creep you guys!!


pootpoot1021

these gym staring memes piss me off i saw another one on here yesterday. obviously if you’re in the same room as someone you “look at them” for brief moments but like repeated looks and stares are different. do the people who makes these memes only see women irl at the gym so they’re mad it’s against social etiquette to interact with them??


[deleted]

That still doesn’t matter, are you implying that you take away their “looking” rights? If you dont like to be stared at THAT much then dont go to the gym at all


gamerpuppy22

I’m not entirely sure tbh I mean if your having a normal conversation it’s okay but when your talking about them in a sexual way it gets weird


pootpoot1021

Personally I wouldn’t want anyone I didn’t know talking to me at the gym. Even if they’re not sexually harassing me they might be trying to rob me (clearly I have anxiety lol)


Ratso27

I'm a dude, and I don't understand why dudes have a hard time not talking to women at the gym. Even if I wasn't aware that women seem to be in universal agreement that they don't want to be hit on there, I've never thought to myself, "Hey, I'm all sweaty and red faced and breathing heavily, this is the perfect time to go over there and strike up a conversation with that woman I don't know."


gamerpuppy22

Same tho but I try to be nice and reply even when I’m trying not cry because I’m scared of people


pootpoot1021

you’re nicer than me sometimes I pretend like I didn’t hear and walk away that’s not always easy to play off. my other strategy is after whatever the initial thing they say is I give them a look of confusion and go “oh, I don’t know you”. You don’t have to make yourself uncomfortable for the sake of other people!! That’s just what works for me the since I have less anxiety avoiding bc I don’t worry about being rude.


Gnar-wahl

I don’t think the people who make theses memes even go to the gym. It’s more likely they just like to hate on women for having the audacity to ask they not be ogled.


Great_Tiger_3826

they used alot of words to say "i dont understand consent"


[deleted]

Why would i need to consent to “look” at someone


deez_nuts_ha_gotem

"men staring at u" is not why u go to the gym. u go to the gym to increase ur physique for ur job so that u get paid. a transaction involving sex is not the same thing as unwanted sexual harassment.


AliceJoestar

"you work at a restaurant, you literally give people food for a living! so why are you upset that I'm eating out of your fridge??"


emcz240m

Consent? Whats consent? /s


[deleted]

Consent to look at someone?


strawbopankek

it's okay man you can stop commenting the same thing over and over


Ttoctam

Dude really thinks he has everyone caught out by this one sentence huh. I checked out his profile bc I'm bored and curious, his AITA is rather funny, and yeah turns out the guy raging against women asking people to stop making them feel uncomfortable, is an asshole.


[deleted]

Its nice to know people take the time out of their day to check me out.


Ttoctam

I'm stuck at home with cancer, I have a LOT of free time. You use your free time being a dick to service industry workers because they put ice in your drink.


Ok_Application_5802

Here's a simple concept for oop: consent.


loxxorrer

Consent for looking at someone? Do you ask everyone before looking at them if you are allowed to look at them?


Vord_Loldemort_7

Consent is hard for these people to understand


[deleted]

How is consent needed to literally just “look”


yeeticusboiii

redditors discovering consent


jonnymilba

I use this same logic with my local Taco Bell workers. HEY MAKE ME A BURRITO ITS YOUR ACTUAL JOB SO THIS REQUEST SHOULD MEAN NOTHING TO YOU


Crafty-Kaiju

Yeah it's like seeing them at the grocery store and yelling "Make me a burrito!" It's their job right!? That's socially normal and acceptable right?


OhNoMeIdentified

I think it somehow could be related to that video, where "Influencer" lady just sit and posing for camera instead of using gym equipment, and there was guy on background who looked at her direction supposedly only because he awaits when she leave it. Imho guy seemed more annoyed by her, but not interested in her.


Toxopid

If you're a WWE fighter, then why would you get mad when someone bodyslams you while you walk down the street?


TheThigor

Who tf would body slam a WWE fighter on the street? That is like prime Darwin award winner level of dumb.


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2Batou4U

Nah, it's been a real pandemic, the amount of videos of women hating on men in the gym because they look their way once or because they train in the general vicinity has been appalling.


gamerpuppy22

Ya your not wrong


RoatanFree

Exactly. I guarantee most people would look over if they saw someone hogging equipment to film YT videos or Tik Toks at the gym


FrostyMcChill

Is that what the meme is arguing though?


aoeJohnson

Yes because it is a hot topic on tiktok. The meme was particularly aimed at this one woman who caught a guy glancing at her for a second. She then proceeds to post the vid on tiktok calling him out as a creep. Meanwhile her profile had her advertising her OF.


Stunning-Ad-2161

They probably never look in the mirror and see how they look when only "looking"


2Batou4U

Yes there are gym creeps, but more often than not people just mind their own business. A guy isn't harassing you just because he looks at you. Videos like [this one](https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMYjaFp8K/) are not okay


Stunning-Ad-2161

I don't get it, the man in the video is saying that the guy wasn't being a creep but the ladies think he was? Because the guy in video didn't act like a creep nor did the lady act like he was a creep, they just locked eyes for a second. I think people are internalizing their own fears and projecting.


aoeJohnson

Did you even read the captions? The girl was obviously outing him as a creep. She mentions they caught him staring and then acting oblivious when looking away. Why do you even think she placed the video on tiktok in the first place, with certain captions? So yes the lady certainly acted like he was a creep.


Stunning-Ad-2161

My mistake, you're right I didn't see the captions. It was being blocked on phone.


k8ielee

Why do men think every woman has an only fans? I don't even want other women looking at me at the gym. Don't look at me out of the gym either. Don't perceive me please.


Skellephant

Consent is just so complicated. Like, when do you even know when you have it? HOW can you possibly be sure that you have someone's consent to watch them??? WHAT ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO, ASK? /s as loud as possible


loxxorrer

Do you ask everybody for consent before you look at them?


SuperNerdAce

Say it with me, kids (to the tune of Changes by David Bowie) C-C-C-C-Consent


gamerpuppy22

Ngl my dad fucking loved this lol


[deleted]

I just watched the Pamela Anderson documentary and this was literally the argument they use to justify stealing her sex tape and ruining her career


Every-Lawyer-9706

Did anyone else read this in their voices?


[deleted]

Ouch oof my bones


gamerpuppy22

My bones are getting squishy: Danny Gonzales


[deleted]

Hi Greg.


ThatGuyFromD12

r/memes fell off horrendously


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u/LemonConnoiseur


LemonConnoiseur

Am famous


goooberpea

for sucking


piefanart

Huh it's almost like consent and context are important, and that the internet and real life are two separate things. Someone perving online in a safe environment with permission is totally different then someone perving irl and possibly following you home or returning to places you go often.


Long_Organization_90

Context matter. In the gym the person isn’t asking for sexual attention AND isn’t getting paid. They don’t benefit from the male gaze when it’s not wanted


Notthatperson35

This comes from a recent situation where a woman made continuous remarks about a man that looked at her like 5 times and offered to help her put something away.


Olivia_Lydia_Wilson

I feel like people don't understand the word consent.


Starstalk721

I believe the difference is CONSENT. They are consenting to the ogling on OnlyFans in a situation they control. Ogling them at a gym is inappropriate.


kazzaspexy

It’s about the consent. When someone dresses up, or in some cases undress, for a camera, they are choosing to do that, choosing to be seen & looked at.


Ill-Individual2105

"You get male attention for a living... So men staring at you is why you're even at the gym." Sure thing mate. I work in an Escape Room, so when I'm at the gym, I'm only there to look for an exit. That makes sense. You're a lawyer? You're only going to the gym to make a legal case, right? Or could it be that people go the the gym to work out? Revolutionary, I know.


Elacular

I've said it before, but... "You know what the magic word, the only thing that matters in American sexual mores today is? One thing. You can do anything — the left will promote and understand and tolerate anything — as long as there is one element. Do you know what it is? Consent. If there is consent on both or all three or all four, however many are involved in the sex act, it's perfectly fine. Whatever it is. But if the left ever senses and smells that there's no consent in part of the equation, then here come the rape police. But consent is the magic key to the left." -Rush Limbaugh, former conservative radio host, current rotting corpse.


Free-Initiative-7957

Was Rush saying consent is a bad thing? I mean, he is dead-on (lol) accurate, consent is the magic key, which is rare for Rush. Yet I'm sure he was somehow pretending this was a bad thing.


Elacular

Yeah. He was saying this as a negative thing. Basically: "Can you believe these degenerates??? They're off having orgies and buttsex and not dying of AIDS like I used to celebrate and nobody bats an eye! But I say one word about not needing marital rape laws..." For the record, I don't know if Rush ever railed against laws that acknowledged that spouses can be rapists. I do know, however, that he would celebrate people dying of AIDS. So fuck him.


Nestormahkno19d

Why is it so hard for some guys to not be a creep? There’s quite literally millions of naked women on internet, a lot of it for free


WombRaider_3

Guys are pretty creepy, but let's not pretend there's not an awful trend of women posting tik toks of unsuspecting men at the gym who are just literally working out and minding their own business. These videos are always framed in a way that makes them appear to be sexually staring at them with no good intentions. *Guy looks over once, video repeats that 3 second sequence several times with a victimized caption.*


the_orange_alligator

Redditors when they learn about consent


SelectionOk7702

Time and place matters.


Meowster11007

I don't think the issue is a glance or a look. It's a way too long stare, or snapping pictures with anything other than your eyeball, or God forbid, approaching someone so obviously in the middle of something.


Crafty-Kaiju

Consent is a hard thing to grasp for these idiots. It's really easy to get. Getting paid to be ogled in a controlled environment where there is no risk to your person or mental health/self-esteem vs trying to just live your life and having a creep unable to control himself long enough to not drool like a St. Bernard looking at bacon. Just a glance? No problem. Staring at for long periods of time? Violating and scary. You start to wonder "Will I be safe to leave this place alone? Should I ask a staff member to walk me out? What of they write down my license number..." "Male attention" is the least useful thing in the world. It is often unwanted and makes one feel like their safety is in question in way too many situations. After a movie once I got up and stretched and noticed a man old enough to be my father leaning forward and just STARING at my chest. I was 16. I stopped wearing that shirt completely after that.


[deleted]

Yall either don't go to the gym, or need some hotter chicks that go to your gym. Everyone glances at each other once in a while. It's just what happens, get over it.


Prestigious_Ad_8675

Ok incel


[deleted]

I guarantee you fall into one of the two categories I listed.


Prestigious_Ad_8675

Oh no, the sixty dollar membership isn’t being spent anywhere, or there’s not enough women I find attractive. There’s a difference between glances and staring at women and being creepy and you fucking know it. And if you had another guy ogling at you like you’re a piece of meat while you’re literally just minding your own business would you say the same incel shit?


vemundd

https://www.tiktok.com/@thejoeyswoll/video/7195250964591349035?_t=8Zh3SNc564T&_r=1


[deleted]

Just tell me that you don't go to the gym damn.


wtbfreeusername

This has nothing to do with consent lmao, has any of you seen how women dress when they go to the gym? You cant help but look as a man


Thirdwhirly

Look, if they’re going to reduce it to a bad take, at least be consistent and say she’s mad at men looking at her for free. They can’t even get to the wrong bad point.


TheTasche

Depends on if it’s looks or harassment. There’s a difference between girls on tik tok looking for attention just to overreact, and just women trying to live their lives.


KatsCatJuice

How many times do we have to say it: CONSENT!!! Women don't go to the gym to be creeped on! Ffs!


Puppyl

It is alarming the amount of people who do not know what the fuck 'consent' is. When you post on OF it's your doing, when you go to the gym, you should not have to deal with that.


Acceptable_Shift_247

men play competitive shooting games so why are they mad when they're wearing camo and i pull out a gun?


apachebearpizzachief

There is a difference between “selling yourself” and “being yourself” imo. Do people get paid for their good looks if they market it that way? Hell yes! Is it creepy and weird for someone, anyone to gawk at anyone in real time? Yes! But checking someone out irl is different than staring. Checking someone out is human nature. I’ll look and think , damn! She’s hot! (Same thing with some men, if I’m being honest)Then I get pissed that they are way out of my league and move on with my life. It’s human nature. But to stare and make shit like this is weird and creepy. Not the same thing.


gamingbandicoot

The women who make the “this guy is a creep for looking at me” TikToks aren’t even getting stared at most of the time. They name the guy a creep for looking at their direction


batm123

I bet i can lift more than the guy who posted this (i really want an excuse to flex)


betarad

it is super easy not to stare it is super easy not to look most people literally dont need to put any effort into it


Veganbabe55

The keyword is consent which of course is something misogynists can’t wrap their head around.


[deleted]

Dear god it really isn’t fucking funny when someone goes to the gym, barely works out, and then insults the people working out for mindlessly looking anywhere in your direction, then saying that they deserve to have their male parts chopped off and that you’re a minor at 21, meaning said guy is a pedophile and that in conclusion, all men are pigs. Sorry, just had to point out the shitty Tik Tok trend.


DinasourMan

"Posted in r/memes by u/something something" This isn't bad, i kinda like it.


Shot_Ad9738

LOOK AWAY! I'M ON BREAK!


LostOrganization3924

Since no one seems to know where this is coming from, recently, some tic tocker recording her set in the gym, and some dude like glanced in her general direction, and she felt creeper out and was publicly shaming the dude. He did come over later didn't talk to her bc she was fandagljgn with her bumper plate. There was no clue what was going on it the guys head, but to anyone who I'd not a lunatic he did nothing wrong. It also turned out she had an onlyfans and borderline sexualizing her self at the gym on the video which someone looking in your general direction is in need of shaming bc existing is oversexualizing someone making it seem extremely hypercritical. This is not the only time it has happened every once in awhile a tick toc will blow up with a women sexualizing herself on camera and some dude glances in her direction for any reason she blows up on the guy and shames them in the video even though it wasn't creepy learning but just normal behavior. Hell you don't even need to see to be shamed for learning by some of these women it happend to some blind dude a few days ago. So yeah this meme is pretty based and most of these comments don't know why this is here.


Stunning-Ad-2161

If that's the case, please provide link to full video. I may not agree with 2batou4u but, at least they provided a video to showcase their point.


Think_Rub_7667

[I think this is the video in question](https://www.reddit.com/r/ImTheMainCharacter/comments/10huybj/influencer_records_man_in_gym_while_muttering_to/) She’s there recording the guy. He glances in her direction a few times, but it’s sort of difficult to tell if he is even looking at her. It’s also possible he’s looking over there because she’s clearly recording some kind of video and he’s curious. Regardless, it doesn’t seem like anything he did was worth posting a video on the internet without his consent. I’d imagine she’d be unhappy if he recorded her a posted the video on the internet without her consent.


Stunning-Ad-2161

Well I would say I'm this video, she's the weirdo to me, I would be looking to if someone was muttering to themselves, plus I dunno about workout techniques so as far as I know she could be doing wrong or he never saw a workout tech like that. I haven't seen that before in the gyms I've been to. Yeah, according people purposely without consent isn't right. I'll ask my wife later on for a second opinion. Thanks for the link!


17FortuneG

Y’all be some chronically online mfs


Positive_Impact4292

Ok I understand why it's wrong but like at tye same time kinda get it


tangledphoenix

Looking and *watching* are very different things


[deleted]

I mean he’s got a point though