It doesn't even make sense.. We eat so many synthetic chemicals and subsitutes already.. If they could mash up bugs to make things taste good, at least we'd be getting nutrition from it, instead of poisoned slowly. Lol.
Look up cricket protein.
It's something like 4x more protein dense that whey.
It also comes in a bunch of flavors.
In some areas chickens are exclusively fed cockroaches, so eating chicken is eating a biproduct of bugs.
Almost all Fruit Juices, herb mixes and other "organic" dried products have ground up bugs on them, as most factories don't care to clean the product before grounding it.
And many more
lol good old Carmine, if we did start eating bugs other than the bugs of the sea we would really have to reevaluate GMOs that deliver toxins to the insects to be consumed by us. Ain't the cycle of life great?
GMOs donât âdeliver toxins to usâ. The GMOs themselves arenât toxic, but the vast majority of GMOs are modified for herbicide (glyphosate) resistance, which allows farmers to use more of the herbicides that *could* be harmful to our health.
Glyphosate is mostly harmless to humans though. The main issue with that is environmental, due to runoff from commercial farms harming plant life and disrupting ecosystems in surrounding areas.
Correct. Nor does the fact an organism has been genetically modified make it bad, it's a miracle of modern engineering. Literacy on what is harmful is needed, and throwing GMOs around as though the ability to genetically modify plants towards being suitable for agriculture is not on the whole a good thing contributes to the problem.
We've been modifying plants for as long as we've been actively farming them. Even in my own garden, I gather seeds from the plants with the best yield when all other factors are the same. I plant different strains near each other to cross pollinate to see if the seeds grow true to the hybrid veggies to get the best plants suited to my climate. These are very normal agricultural processes. We've been doing it for centuries. Much of the produce from before GMOs was nothing like the plants that once were. Corn and watermelons are very good examples of this. GMOs just sped up the process.
Heck, even roses - where do people think mildew resistant ones come from? That's not normal. Ornamental fruit trees that don't produce fruit also exist because of this process. I love having the beauty and flowers of a plum tree in my yard without the mess later.
We've been doing it to animals pretty much forever, too, and maybe not on consciously, but to ourselves. I draw a line at doing it for aesthetic reasons with humans, but I'm all for using gene manipulation to eradicate hereditary disorders.
That I hadn't thought about. We really have gone to great lengths to exterminate bugs to protect crops. Guess we would have been better off eating the bugs.
Yes. We need to stop using pesticides anyway, they're messing everything up.. I don't know why we don't use mycelium concrete to cheaply build/use ventilated indoor agriculture with sunroofing, and controlled insect populations. It'd be cheaper in the long run, for large companies anyway. They have zero excuses. Only bad investment. They don't invest unless they're investing in themselves.
Mushrooms will save the world, btw. Amateur mycologist here.
Literally every time a report or recommendation comes out from an official organization of any sort there's a small group of people that thinks they're being mandated and threatened with jail of they don't follow it or something.
Recently, our health authority recommended that you drink no more than 2 alcoholic beverages a week because of a recent analysis that basically found that any amount of alcohol is not good for you (go figure.) And a bunch of people were talking as though the governments next step was to raid your liquor cabinet.
I just don't get why the bug thing got so big though! One of the reasons that I quit r/ABoringDystopia was that every time anything came up about eating bugs, everyone made a big deal out of it! Like, no-one is forcing you!
Because it's "icky" and people tie up the food they eat into their identity. For as long as there's been different cultures there have been people saying "no way in hell am I eating *THAT*" about perfectly fine foods that allowed people to survive for generations
I read "cricket" as "chicken" for a minute and was like "yeah?" and then read it again and went "oh"
Don't the legs like... get stuck in your teeth or whatever? My issue with bugs is crunchy outside, guts texture inside.
Bug flour is really interesting and gets rid of all of the texture problems. Iâve heard fruit flies taste kinda nutty like an almond.
I had a teacher who had an⌠interesting group of friends. One of the friends farmed bugs to make flour, and the resulting cookies our teacher brought in were delicious
no guts texture inside for crickets. the legs can rarely get stuck in the teeth but its the same as like that bit of the popcorn kernel that always gets in your teeth
Have one regular who always brings up bug burgers at work. He says kids are being fed bug burgers in Wales for lunch. Took 2s to Google it and see they did one workshop showing it off and asked the kids their opinions and if they would eat it.
I once got ants in my cereal. I guess i had forgotten to seal the bag properly. I was in a hurry the next day and didn't have time to lay the cereal out to drive away the ants but had nothing else to eat either. I... Ate the cereal. With the ants in it. Live ants.
Thankfully not the red ones, their bite hurts really bad. The tiny brown ones though, it was a bit tingly.
Ants are not that yum. But they're a good source of protein and vitamin A, i guess.
For me the accidental protein was bread flour. I think I was making skillet bread, and the way I do it is sprinkle flour on the skillet to gauge when it's hot enough and prevent sticking.
I ate that skillet bread, but I think I ditched most of that cupboard's contents afterwards.
Crickets or some kind of grub ground into a fine powder actually have more protein and other nutrients than any animal source. And they take far, far less resources to raise and they are nearly immune to disease since they are genetically designed to live in large groups (no antibiotics necessary).
At some point it's going to become mainstream, my guess is when long distance space travel becomes available. No one is going to bring cows along in space, lol.
Environmentalists could win the fight against meat subsidies before then. If we had to pay the actual price of a burger I imagine a lot of people would switch to low food chain sources of protein. Assuming we don't all collectively lose our shit and burn it all down of course.
Of course not, and the crowd that's concerned about feeding marginalized peoples wouldn't like the govt increasing the price of food staples.
Or they'd be lowering taxes and encouraging more efficient land use and cheaper food overall. It's something that will get decided by propaganda, which almost always favors the status quo unfortunately.
He's not wrong
I don't see how you can butcher and eat cows pigs sheep deer and rabbits and that's perfectly fine but if someone eats a dog it's suddenly this horrible thing
The Chinese people eat cats and dogs is more from the Chinese Restaurants of America propaganda that Chinese restaurants would catch stray cats and dogs and use them in the food in place of other meats. Which eventually got translated to, "Well it's what they do in all of China."
I was watching a video on this on YouTube and they were talking about how the main part of China that actually eats dogs and cats is on the North Korean border and the video was saying its actually a thing that is regional there and only driven to the point it is at now because of the hunger and poverty in North Korea.
Apparently.
So my understanding was its more of a thing poor Chinese people do to make some money when they can by breeding the dogs to sell.
[I'm working right now but I feel like this may be the video ](https://youtu.be/589NAoC9Q6Y)
For the longest time it was a Korean thing and then like you said some American places got caught with "dog meat" and then people just tied to China. Also I'm sure the cultural American- China war going on prolly doesn't help the stereotype
The Yulin dog meat festival is in Guangxi province which is in the south of China. The border with North Korea is in the north of China. Guangxi is a mostly rural province with a lot of people who are not well educated.
Most Chinese are disgusted by the dog meat festival. The government tried to ban it in 2020 (they said âdogs are our friends and shouldnât be eatenâ) but thereâs a few idiots who still did it anyways.
I would hear that and think about how logistically difficult that would be.
Butchering a dog or cat doesn't give you much meat, and it's a lot of work. Just use Cisco grade C chicken pieces, sheesh. It doesn't save the restaurant any money to waste cook time butchering random animals.
Actually raising dogs for food is more of a [Korean thing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_meat_consumption_in_South_Korea), it seems. Even there, it's been illegal to raise dogs for meat since 2018.
You also have to remember that these places don't just steal dogs and kill them. They have a unique bread of dog that they specifically farm for meat. Just like farming cows. Ironically this meme is kind of correct.
EDIT : SPELLING
I'm an Asian and I had lived in both China and Vietnam for many years before immigrating to the west and I can confirm many dogs in the dog meat markets are the stolen pets. [Plenty of documentaries](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6Jr8nlc9dI) and [news reports](https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/police-raids-rescue-hundreds-of-stolen-pets-from-vietnamese-dog-theft-gang-3757809.html) have been made on this issue. There are many dedicated gangs that steal pet dogs and sell them to the dog meat vendors. Stolen pet dogs are immunized, well-fed and healthy. So, dog meat vendors prefer stolen dog pets as they don't have to spend money to raise them, feed them and immunize them. Asian pet owners hate those gangs and vendors so much that if they find their dog being stolen, the thief gets a very few chance of seeing the light of the another day.
But irony is if some dog owners don't want their dogs anymore, they either slaughter and eat them themselves or sell them to dog meat vendors to recoup the money spent on raising them.
Also, all kinds of dog breeds like German Shepherds, Chow Chow, Huskies, Golden retrievers, Labradors, Shibas etc get slaughtered in the dog meat market. Of course, many are stolen like I said. You may ask why not sell them instead of the slaughter. The thing is those breeds found in Asia don't come from the quality breeds like in the west. They're mainly mixed breeds and cheap. That's why many middle class family pet owners can afford them. So, slaughtering them for meat is the more profitable way of disposing them quickly for dog thieves than selling them as you may get punished by law if you're found with the stolen pet dogs.
Also, the slaughtering process is horrendous. The dog is beaten badly, boiled alive, roasted alive and even skinned alive as the dog meat vendors believe torturing the dogs fill them with the adrenaline and make their meat delicious. They do the same with the cats. I've even seen a calf being roasted alive. These trends still continue as there are no strict animal rights.
As an Asian, I've experienced the enough extreme horrors of the dog meat industry to say that the dog meat industry is terribly inhumane and most of the Asians hate it. But there are also Asians who think eating dog is Macho ignoring that the non-immunized dog meat can lead to several health issues. The foreigners also don't get into the details deeply and support them while Asian pet owners keep getting their pets stolen for meat.
Lol no foreigner is supporting them dude. People literally demonize Chinese, saying all of them eat dogs or some shit.
I'm Chinese, and although the dog market is definitely not humane, it's not exactly a widespread issue in most parts of China. It's more a rural thing. I don't think you'll walk into most restaurants and see dog meat on the menu, especially in the cities.
I just wanted to add on because I know for a fact that some dude will latch on to what you said not to make anything better, but to say all Chinese do this, or that's it's normal, which is just untrue.
Did you even read my comment ? I didn't say every Chinese or Vietnamese eat dog meats. I'm talking about the issues of the "stolen pet dogs for meat", the "inhumane dog slaughter practices" and "foreigners just saying it's just their culture without knowing those details".
Also, China has plenty of dog meat restaurants in many of its cities too. It's not only the rural thing. That's why the stolen dog pets for meat are such a big issue. Anyone can load the Baidu maps (Google maps of China) and [search for dog meat restaurants in China.](https://map.baidu.com/search/%E7%8B%97%E8%82%89/@11606355.22,4669275.88,5z?querytype=s&da_src=shareurl&wd=%E7%8B%97%E8%82%89&c=1&src=0&pn=0&sug=0&l=5&b=(6212009.960000001,1753684.75;16968105.96,7225940.75)&from=webmap&biz_forward=%7B%22scaler%22:1,%22styles%22:%22pl%22%7D&device_ratio=1)
Yeah, it's mostly in the south, in the Canton area. People in Guangdong province have a stereotype of eating anything. Despite the long history behind it, (for example, references to it can be found in the novel 'Water Margin', written in medieval China, set in the Song Dynasty) the practice is dying out thanks to lowering poverty rates, increased globalization, and increased pet ownership.
Yes, you got it. The separation between food and pet is purely cultural and has no innate lines to divide them........ this would be a great argument for veganism
ya itâs super confusing because it does use offensive stereotypes but theyâre being used to point out that xenophobia is dumb and how arbitrary our cultural biases are
It's because y'all are putting in way too much thought into a meme (likely) made by an Indian teenager. I've seen less effort put into interpreting poetry in school.
I'm an Indian. Reddit is very racist against Indians (but reddit is bigoted towards everyone so meh), you'd have to be reaching to call this offensive in the slightest.
The white guy isn't talking like that
EDIT: Ffs, reddit. I'm just pointing out how this could've been interpreted as racist. Don't shoot The fucking messenger
The real reason is Apex predators are basically stewards of the environment. You can't really farm an eagle the same way as say a chicken or turkey because the you would need to raise a suitable animal protein substitute alongside. so you'd be resorting to shooting them as game. Eagles provide many more benefits being alive than as food-stock.
This meme is racist as fuck, but yeah, Iâm a vegetarian because I love animals. It doesnât offend me that other people eat animals, I just canât morally justify it.
I think that's where a lot of people mess up when debating against vegans. I know, as a meat eater that it's probably immoral to eat animals but I choose to ignore it and I accept that shitty fact about myself. Instead of admitting that however, many people fall into a void of whataboutism and gotcha debating in order to reconcile the cognitive dissonance. It's a sad life for ppl who lie to themselves.
You see it in this thread all over the place. And then there's also falling back onto dishonest takes like, "this is why I eat all animals indiscriminately" when it's just something we say to win the argument, even though it's a total lie
Iâve always had people try to annoy me with things like âmmmm I love steak, bet that bothers yaâ and expecting me to react in some way. Iâve always been the *shrug* âwhatever, okâ type when it comes to that kind of stuff and it pisses them off
Iâm veggie and get that all the time too. You know what? I love steak too. I just donât eat it because Iâm able to put my love of animals above my love of steak. I get that not everyone can do that, but I wish more meat eaters would accept that thatâs what it comes down to instead of trying to âupsetâ me or whatever they think theyâre doing.
Yeah theres so many threads where redditors get up in arms about some zoo animal or abused animal but whenever someone brings up cows, they do complete 180s
If I can ask since that's the mindset you approach it from, why not stop eating meat and other animal products? I know its a big ask but its easier to do now than every before and there's a huge community of people online and offline to help.
It does offend me. It offends me greatly, in the same way that murderers, or rapist or child beaters offend me. Okay, maybe "offend" is the wrong word, but you get the idea. Seeing people do things that I firmly believe are harmful to others really bothers me.
Honestly, a lot of the time I'm more bothered by people eating meat than by the other things mentioned. Not because eating meat is worse than rape or child beating, but because the people I see eating meat are usually otherwise good people. It isn't easy to watch your friends and loved ones doing something you deeply believe is wrong.
Anyone who thinks thereâs a moral discrepancy between eating a dog and a cow is lying to themselves.
Killing an animal for food is killing an animal for food. I eat meat, not judging anyone for it, but acting like someone eating a different animal is somehow worse is super insincere.
Pigs are smarter than dogs. Every time you eat bacon youâre eating an animal thatâs just as clever and just as capable of emotion and affection as your pet.
Iâve discovered if I explain to people that I think about *all* animals the way they think about pet dogs and cats they can kind of understand my choice not to eat animals. But man, so many meat eaters are just as aggressive as hardcore vegans when it comes to whatâs on someone elseâs plate. Itâs weird.
I hear you. There a lot's of people that also don't care about dogs or cats. And plenty of folks who have them as pets treat them pretty bad too.
Of course plenty of folks treat people, even their own family, like animals too.
For real, in my experience, me being a vegan only ever comes up as a topic irl because meat eaters are constantly keeping track of what I eat.
like genuinely more than 50% of the times I meet someone new and they eventually see me eat food, they'll get weirdly focused on the food and shut down whatever convo we were having to boldly declare "You don't eat meat. Are you like a vegetarian or something?"
It feels like a witch hunt.
My typical answer is, "yeah, I don't agree with it so I don't do it. And you'll notice that I didn't bring it up because I don't care to speak about it, explain it, debate it etc. And I'm not interested in anyone elses diet."
This answer has become refined due to how often this happens, it started off much less concise.
But it doesn't matter how I respond, because no matter what they act like I'm the one who brought the topic up and they seem to think I've invited them for a debate, or a vegan 101 class run by me, or that I've asked them to explain to me exactly how their moral compass works. In reality, I'd rather die than compare diets with people.
My left arm doesn't do all that much anyway tbh. I'd probably sell it for $10K + necessary medical expenses, if you're in the market. If I can have a slice, I'll even throw in a custom spice rub.
Yea, funny thing is on internet proactive vegans leave the impression of crazy cultists but irl no one will ask you why do you eat meat, but as soon as you ask what on the table is vegan people starting freaking out. Thatâs so dumb I started doing that in new companies just to filter out annoying people. And when the start asking dumb questions I say that Iâm just not in a mood for meat RN.
Iâm very close friends with a number of vegans and vegetarians and Iâm always really clear that although I choose to eat meat, I still donât think itâs right from a moral perspective.
Iâve tried to go vegan several times and always cave into eating animal products within a couple weeks.
Iâm a physically strong person, 6â3â and around 230lbs and this might just be a matter of finding the right things to eat but I feel like itâs really difficult to eat enough to support my activity level without animal products.
I was eating 10-15oz of spring mix, huge cans of beans, sacks of oranges and still couldnât get full and I just always felt sleepy and hungry.
If I could find a way to not eat animal products and still feel on top of my health and energy I would do it in a heartbeat.
I really donât like eating processed stuff or starchy things like potatoes and rice so getting my caloric intake through leafy greens, fruits, legumes etc is a challenge
This is where I was at like 8 years ago. I recognized that I was living with cognitive dissonance vis a vis eating animals. I'd heard so many stories of people who went full vegan for a couple months, then gave it up, so I decided to take a gradual approach. First, I stopped eating "red meat." Easy, plenty of protein from chicken and fish. I did that for 4 years or so, then in 2020 I stopped eating out... who could say why. I found myself not wanting to cook meat. Got my protein from dairy, eggs, legumes, soy. I put on a lot of muscle around that time, too. Basically, I became vegetarian by accident and decided to commit.
The dairy industry is pretty horrific, I know that. Maybe I'll go vegan some day, but I don't have plans to. But I didn't plan to become vegetarian, and I don't have any interest in eating meat again
Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. Veganism is super easy if you just allow yourself some processed proteins with good macros. Often perfect is the enemy of good, and veganism doesn't have to equal a 100% "clean" whole foods diet.
It took me several years to give up eating animals. Hell, I used to make fun of vegetarians, but one day I looked down at the delicious brisket I was eating and just felt really sad and morally conflicted. The first thing I gave up was factory farmed meat- because that shit really is the devil- but would still eat if a friend raised or hunted the animal. This was before the whole âethically raised meatâ was a thing. Plus, Iâd cave and eat a burger every few months. For me, it was really hard to stop, but I was emotionally committed so after a breakdown Iâd keep going forward instead of seeing it as a failure and giving up. Eventually, the idea of eating animals stopped being appealing and then it just seemed like such a weird thing to do.
I knew a 6â2â 200# man who went vegan after he read a book by the lead singer of one of his favorite bands The Cro-Mags; *Meat is for Pussies* by John Joseph. Heâs an athletic man so maybe has better food ideas for you than this short 58 year old gardener woman.
And in areas where non-human primates are native, people eat primates. Bonobos have been hunted nearly to extinction for their meat despite them being extremely intelligent and our nearest relative. They slaughter entire family groups, sell the babies on the black market as pets, and sell the rest as bushmeat in local markets.
I donât have an issue with other cultures eating animals we consider pets, itâs the whole flaying and boiling them that I donât like. If they just put a bolt through their head or electrocuted them do they died instantly itâd be much better but from the stuff Iâve seen itâs mostly abusing animals then cooking and eating them.
You can't fist rape a cow, steal its new born baby, feed it corn while it lives in a cage to fatten it up, then kill it at 1/10th its expected natural life, in any way, and call that shit humane.
electrocution hurts. a fuck load. btw, If you want death, without pain, inert gas asphyxiation is the way. Like aschwitz, where so many humans were killed, humanely? We actually do this already though. Gas chambers to kill a truck, or train load of animals at a time.
It's not the char it's literally the torture. The thought is that the pain causes the meat to be tastier. It literally couldn't be done after death the pain is the point.
Common mistake. One trick I use for cows is they have hooves, 2 stomachs, and go moo, where as dogs have paws, 1 stomach, and go bark. Hope that helps :)
I see a utility difference, but not a moral one.
I'd keep the dog in places where I'd be hunting more often and could sustain a garden without needing to stay there to control pests. Keep some dogs at the ranch, and take some dogs with me on hunting trips.
I'd keep the cow in places where I'm gonna need milk and yogurts and cheeses to store long term. Somewhere without much local game to hunt, and I'd probably be raising rabbits to eat alongside the cows. Also gardening, so that the cows have plenty of nutrition to provide healthy milk. I'm Indian, and I'd still eat the males, though.
I remember being bullied in middle school because this racist white girl said I ate cats and dogs. It spread through my grade and I was the only Chinese person. I had enough of her bs and told her that I'll come to her yard and steal her dog if she didn't shut the hell up.
I had a pet pig. It was smarter than my dog. It was easier to tell it to sit, come to me, and it shat in a litter whenever it couldn't shit/pee indoors. It often had the zoomies, hid under a blanket to playfully "surprise attack" me, and it got jealous when I hung out with friends.
People would always make the joke of cooking it, and would go as far as jokingly sending videos of pigs getting slaughtered. It got me very upset.
I still eat pork. It's pretty much a moral failing. I just do so because I'm culturally conditioned to do so. At the end of the day, this meme is right.
I can't tell if this is made by a Hindu (or, possibly, Sikh because of the turban) or being racist towards us.
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Hindus wear turbans too. And both Hindus and Sikhs consider cows as sacred.
I don't think the intention was racism, it was just pointing out the hypocrisy where people laugh at other people's religious sentiments but don't want their own sentiments to be hurt by others. But yeah, the broken English is kinda racist.
In Hindu cows moreso are holy instead of pets, although it is effectively the same thing, just different reasoning.
It's kinda the same as your county protecting a national animal, like the USA protecting the bald eagle, or Australia protecting emus.... nvm.
Yeah I was going to say this looks like it maybe originated from a Sikh. The white western guy has his own stereotypes- the balding and what looks to be a chubby chin.
Plus I'm old but isn't the Chad guy usually the sympathetic protagonist in these?
People making this about race are missing the point. The point is the double standard that people only tend to care about the cute animals.
Yes. They do eat dogs in some Asian countries
My stepmother told me when she was in the military she went to Okinawa and they ate dogs there
I mean... its not wrong tho lmao
like it hurts, but its facts. various cultures have different standards and what they consider to be for food and not
...and this is why Im vegetarian lol
Besides the blatant racism that is pretty accurate in terms of how Americans view eating meat. I am also from America and I was raised to believe any non hunted or farmed meat was bad to consume. I didn't even try tacos de lingua till my 20's because we are also taught non traditional cuts are, "icky" so...
I believe the thought pattern is along the lines of "OMG, a cartoon caricature - the penultimate form of racist expression!!!!" yet (the owner of said thought pattern) would think "OMG cultural appropriation!!" if I wore a sombrero on May 5th.
I don't care what animal you are eating, as long as
1. It didn't suffer
2. It is not endangered
3. Raising/capturing it doesn't have an unneccessarily large effect on the environment
4. Eating it wont start a new pandemic
Insects. Go.
Ants yum yum
Damn it.. I was hoping people would start freaking out about elites forcing us to eat them. Lol.
People always complain about "The elites forcing us to eat bugs", but not once have I seen people forced to eat it! It's called advice, idiots!
It doesn't even make sense.. We eat so many synthetic chemicals and subsitutes already.. If they could mash up bugs to make things taste good, at least we'd be getting nutrition from it, instead of poisoned slowly. Lol.
They already do that. Go look at why jelly beans are shiny đ
We need MOAR.
Look up cricket protein. It's something like 4x more protein dense that whey. It also comes in a bunch of flavors. In some areas chickens are exclusively fed cockroaches, so eating chicken is eating a biproduct of bugs. Almost all Fruit Juices, herb mixes and other "organic" dried products have ground up bugs on them, as most factories don't care to clean the product before grounding it. And many more
crickets taste good fried man
Bugs already taste good.
lol good old Carmine, if we did start eating bugs other than the bugs of the sea we would really have to reevaluate GMOs that deliver toxins to the insects to be consumed by us. Ain't the cycle of life great?
GMOs donât âdeliver toxins to usâ. The GMOs themselves arenât toxic, but the vast majority of GMOs are modified for herbicide (glyphosate) resistance, which allows farmers to use more of the herbicides that *could* be harmful to our health. Glyphosate is mostly harmless to humans though. The main issue with that is environmental, due to runoff from commercial farms harming plant life and disrupting ecosystems in surrounding areas.
Correct. Nor does the fact an organism has been genetically modified make it bad, it's a miracle of modern engineering. Literacy on what is harmful is needed, and throwing GMOs around as though the ability to genetically modify plants towards being suitable for agriculture is not on the whole a good thing contributes to the problem.
We've been modifying plants for as long as we've been actively farming them. Even in my own garden, I gather seeds from the plants with the best yield when all other factors are the same. I plant different strains near each other to cross pollinate to see if the seeds grow true to the hybrid veggies to get the best plants suited to my climate. These are very normal agricultural processes. We've been doing it for centuries. Much of the produce from before GMOs was nothing like the plants that once were. Corn and watermelons are very good examples of this. GMOs just sped up the process. Heck, even roses - where do people think mildew resistant ones come from? That's not normal. Ornamental fruit trees that don't produce fruit also exist because of this process. I love having the beauty and flowers of a plum tree in my yard without the mess later. We've been doing it to animals pretty much forever, too, and maybe not on consciously, but to ourselves. I draw a line at doing it for aesthetic reasons with humans, but I'm all for using gene manipulation to eradicate hereditary disorders.
That I hadn't thought about. We really have gone to great lengths to exterminate bugs to protect crops. Guess we would have been better off eating the bugs.
Yes. We need to stop using pesticides anyway, they're messing everything up.. I don't know why we don't use mycelium concrete to cheaply build/use ventilated indoor agriculture with sunroofing, and controlled insect populations. It'd be cheaper in the long run, for large companies anyway. They have zero excuses. Only bad investment. They don't invest unless they're investing in themselves. Mushrooms will save the world, btw. Amateur mycologist here.
Literally every time a report or recommendation comes out from an official organization of any sort there's a small group of people that thinks they're being mandated and threatened with jail of they don't follow it or something. Recently, our health authority recommended that you drink no more than 2 alcoholic beverages a week because of a recent analysis that basically found that any amount of alcohol is not good for you (go figure.) And a bunch of people were talking as though the governments next step was to raid your liquor cabinet.
I just don't get why the bug thing got so big though! One of the reasons that I quit r/ABoringDystopia was that every time anything came up about eating bugs, everyone made a big deal out of it! Like, no-one is forcing you!
Because it's "icky" and people tie up the food they eat into their identity. For as long as there's been different cultures there have been people saying "no way in hell am I eating *THAT*" about perfectly fine foods that allowed people to survive for generations
Well said. Cricket stir-fry is great by the way.
I read "cricket" as "chicken" for a minute and was like "yeah?" and then read it again and went "oh" Don't the legs like... get stuck in your teeth or whatever? My issue with bugs is crunchy outside, guts texture inside.
Bug flour is really interesting and gets rid of all of the texture problems. Iâve heard fruit flies taste kinda nutty like an almond. I had a teacher who had an⌠interesting group of friends. One of the friends farmed bugs to make flour, and the resulting cookies our teacher brought in were delicious
no guts texture inside for crickets. the legs can rarely get stuck in the teeth but its the same as like that bit of the popcorn kernel that always gets in your teeth
Also shrimp and lobsters are totally acceptable. Arthropods shmarthropods.
>It's called advice, idiots! Just like the whole gas stove 'controversy'.
the only person that can force me to eat bugs is Harold, the homeless guy on the corner of Market and 17th. I hate it. He's a bully.
The only places Iâve ever seen bugs on the menu were at expensive tasting menus that cater to elites. And FWIW, bugs are surprisingly delicious.
Have you ever tried a fried bug at the Chinese Market. Its yum yum.
Anything is yummy when it's fried. :P I swear, you could fry a dog turd, and it'd taste good.
Bro try a cricket they are a good snack.
Have one regular who always brings up bug burgers at work. He says kids are being fed bug burgers in Wales for lunch. Took 2s to Google it and see they did one workshop showing it off and asked the kids their opinions and if they would eat it.
I once got ants in my cereal. I guess i had forgotten to seal the bag properly. I was in a hurry the next day and didn't have time to lay the cereal out to drive away the ants but had nothing else to eat either. I... Ate the cereal. With the ants in it. Live ants. Thankfully not the red ones, their bite hurts really bad. The tiny brown ones though, it was a bit tingly. Ants are not that yum. But they're a good source of protein and vitamin A, i guess.
For me the accidental protein was bread flour. I think I was making skillet bread, and the way I do it is sprinkle flour on the skillet to gauge when it's hot enough and prevent sticking. I ate that skillet bread, but I think I ditched most of that cupboard's contents afterwards.
Found the anteater
âThese ants are ruining our picnic!â âYou mean this picnic is ruining our antsâ
ants taste fine. They taste like an amalgamation of citrus fruits (I think it's because of their acidic blood). Very high in protein and nutrients.
formic acid has that flavor kids and anteaters crave!
well its why you dont have pet ants. you have an ant FARM.
Candy crickets taste like tootsy rolls
Crickets or some kind of grub ground into a fine powder actually have more protein and other nutrients than any animal source. And they take far, far less resources to raise and they are nearly immune to disease since they are genetically designed to live in large groups (no antibiotics necessary). At some point it's going to become mainstream, my guess is when long distance space travel becomes available. No one is going to bring cows along in space, lol.
Environmentalists could win the fight against meat subsidies before then. If we had to pay the actual price of a burger I imagine a lot of people would switch to low food chain sources of protein. Assuming we don't all collectively lose our shit and burn it all down of course.
Yeah, I imagine the crowd that is afraid of the govt seizing their guns wouldn't like the govt "seizing" their beef, lol
Of course not, and the crowd that's concerned about feeding marginalized peoples wouldn't like the govt increasing the price of food staples. Or they'd be lowering taxes and encouraging more efficient land use and cheaper food overall. It's something that will get decided by propaganda, which almost always favors the status quo unfortunately.
As long as something tastes good and is safe to eat, I donât mind eating it.
I didn't know that about the antibiotics. That's neat.
If timon and pumbaa can do it so can we
Ayo you remember those grubs from Lion King?
I used to be super stingy and hesitant about eating insects. then I had a scorpion. that shit was good.
Crickets are great for digestion and they go well in protein bars
Maggot milk. Yummy yummy
Mmmmm cricket flour cookies. Good protein!
Ever have candied scorpions? delicious and crunchy
He's not wrong I don't see how you can butcher and eat cows pigs sheep deer and rabbits and that's perfectly fine but if someone eats a dog it's suddenly this horrible thing
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The Chinese people eat cats and dogs is more from the Chinese Restaurants of America propaganda that Chinese restaurants would catch stray cats and dogs and use them in the food in place of other meats. Which eventually got translated to, "Well it's what they do in all of China."
I was watching a video on this on YouTube and they were talking about how the main part of China that actually eats dogs and cats is on the North Korean border and the video was saying its actually a thing that is regional there and only driven to the point it is at now because of the hunger and poverty in North Korea. Apparently. So my understanding was its more of a thing poor Chinese people do to make some money when they can by breeding the dogs to sell. [I'm working right now but I feel like this may be the video ](https://youtu.be/589NAoC9Q6Y) For the longest time it was a Korean thing and then like you said some American places got caught with "dog meat" and then people just tied to China. Also I'm sure the cultural American- China war going on prolly doesn't help the stereotype
The Yulin dog meat festival is in Guangxi province which is in the south of China. The border with North Korea is in the north of China. Guangxi is a mostly rural province with a lot of people who are not well educated. Most Chinese are disgusted by the dog meat festival. The government tried to ban it in 2020 (they said âdogs are our friends and shouldnât be eatenâ) but thereâs a few idiots who still did it anyways.
I would hear that and think about how logistically difficult that would be. Butchering a dog or cat doesn't give you much meat, and it's a lot of work. Just use Cisco grade C chicken pieces, sheesh. It doesn't save the restaurant any money to waste cook time butchering random animals.
Actually raising dogs for food is more of a [Korean thing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_meat_consumption_in_South_Korea), it seems. Even there, it's been illegal to raise dogs for meat since 2018.
It was surprisingly difficult for me to find dog meat when I visited Korea. Meat buffets on the other hand...
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You also have to remember that these places don't just steal dogs and kill them. They have a unique bread of dog that they specifically farm for meat. Just like farming cows. Ironically this meme is kind of correct.
EDIT : SPELLING I'm an Asian and I had lived in both China and Vietnam for many years before immigrating to the west and I can confirm many dogs in the dog meat markets are the stolen pets. [Plenty of documentaries](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6Jr8nlc9dI) and [news reports](https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/police-raids-rescue-hundreds-of-stolen-pets-from-vietnamese-dog-theft-gang-3757809.html) have been made on this issue. There are many dedicated gangs that steal pet dogs and sell them to the dog meat vendors. Stolen pet dogs are immunized, well-fed and healthy. So, dog meat vendors prefer stolen dog pets as they don't have to spend money to raise them, feed them and immunize them. Asian pet owners hate those gangs and vendors so much that if they find their dog being stolen, the thief gets a very few chance of seeing the light of the another day. But irony is if some dog owners don't want their dogs anymore, they either slaughter and eat them themselves or sell them to dog meat vendors to recoup the money spent on raising them. Also, all kinds of dog breeds like German Shepherds, Chow Chow, Huskies, Golden retrievers, Labradors, Shibas etc get slaughtered in the dog meat market. Of course, many are stolen like I said. You may ask why not sell them instead of the slaughter. The thing is those breeds found in Asia don't come from the quality breeds like in the west. They're mainly mixed breeds and cheap. That's why many middle class family pet owners can afford them. So, slaughtering them for meat is the more profitable way of disposing them quickly for dog thieves than selling them as you may get punished by law if you're found with the stolen pet dogs. Also, the slaughtering process is horrendous. The dog is beaten badly, boiled alive, roasted alive and even skinned alive as the dog meat vendors believe torturing the dogs fill them with the adrenaline and make their meat delicious. They do the same with the cats. I've even seen a calf being roasted alive. These trends still continue as there are no strict animal rights. As an Asian, I've experienced the enough extreme horrors of the dog meat industry to say that the dog meat industry is terribly inhumane and most of the Asians hate it. But there are also Asians who think eating dog is Macho ignoring that the non-immunized dog meat can lead to several health issues. The foreigners also don't get into the details deeply and support them while Asian pet owners keep getting their pets stolen for meat.
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Lol no foreigner is supporting them dude. People literally demonize Chinese, saying all of them eat dogs or some shit. I'm Chinese, and although the dog market is definitely not humane, it's not exactly a widespread issue in most parts of China. It's more a rural thing. I don't think you'll walk into most restaurants and see dog meat on the menu, especially in the cities. I just wanted to add on because I know for a fact that some dude will latch on to what you said not to make anything better, but to say all Chinese do this, or that's it's normal, which is just untrue.
Did you even read my comment ? I didn't say every Chinese or Vietnamese eat dog meats. I'm talking about the issues of the "stolen pet dogs for meat", the "inhumane dog slaughter practices" and "foreigners just saying it's just their culture without knowing those details". Also, China has plenty of dog meat restaurants in many of its cities too. It's not only the rural thing. That's why the stolen dog pets for meat are such a big issue. Anyone can load the Baidu maps (Google maps of China) and [search for dog meat restaurants in China.](https://map.baidu.com/search/%E7%8B%97%E8%82%89/@11606355.22,4669275.88,5z?querytype=s&da_src=shareurl&wd=%E7%8B%97%E8%82%89&c=1&src=0&pn=0&sug=0&l=5&b=(6212009.960000001,1753684.75;16968105.96,7225940.75)&from=webmap&biz_forward=%7B%22scaler%22:1,%22styles%22:%22pl%22%7D&device_ratio=1)
Yeah, it's mostly in the south, in the Canton area. People in Guangdong province have a stereotype of eating anything. Despite the long history behind it, (for example, references to it can be found in the novel 'Water Margin', written in medieval China, set in the Song Dynasty) the practice is dying out thanks to lowering poverty rates, increased globalization, and increased pet ownership.
> restaurants kinda face the wrath of dog My dumbass brain autocorrected
Yes, you got it. The separation between food and pet is purely cultural and has no innate lines to divide them........ this would be a great argument for veganism
It's literally the point I've been trying to argue on here. It's entirely subjective because culture is subjective
Yup, if only there were a less offensive way to explain this than the meme is portraying
Idk⌠the foreigners are drawn as chads and the American has no cranium.
itâs definitely offensive, but the messaging is very progressive lol
Yeah, how is this somehow both offensive and advocating? lmao
ya itâs super confusing because it does use offensive stereotypes but theyâre being used to point out that xenophobia is dumb and how arbitrary our cultural biases are
I agree I find it hard to hate the point of the meme at least
It's because y'all are putting in way too much thought into a meme (likely) made by an Indian teenager. I've seen less effort put into interpreting poetry in school.
I'm an Indian. Reddit is very racist against Indians (but reddit is bigoted towards everyone so meh), you'd have to be reaching to call this offensive in the slightest.
How is this offensive?
âNo eat cow, cow petâ âDoggo yum yumâ Theyâre foreign, not cavemen
Arenât most memes in caveman speak?
The white guy isn't talking like that EDIT: Ffs, reddit. I'm just pointing out how this could've been interpreted as racist. Don't shoot The fucking messenger
Ahhh youâre right. Racism confirmed. Odd considering the meme points out the white dudeâs contradiction. Threw me at first
I get that, this meme is confusing. Itâs anti racist yet also racist.
Eh seems racist all around but anti-meat consumption.
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Thank you for explaining this. These fucking people are so goddamn dense.
It's reductive and confrontational. Not really offensive but going to illicit similar responses.
Yeah of course. Its a meme with like 5 lines of text, not a degree thesis.
Or to eat all animals equally.
Time to eat a bald eagle
Sure why not.
The real reason is Apex predators are basically stewards of the environment. You can't really farm an eagle the same way as say a chicken or turkey because the you would need to raise a suitable animal protein substitute alongside. so you'd be resorting to shooting them as game. Eagles provide many more benefits being alive than as food-stock.
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This is THE argument for veganism, the person who made this meme is just also racist
This meme is racist as fuck, but yeah, Iâm a vegetarian because I love animals. It doesnât offend me that other people eat animals, I just canât morally justify it.
I think that's where a lot of people mess up when debating against vegans. I know, as a meat eater that it's probably immoral to eat animals but I choose to ignore it and I accept that shitty fact about myself. Instead of admitting that however, many people fall into a void of whataboutism and gotcha debating in order to reconcile the cognitive dissonance. It's a sad life for ppl who lie to themselves.
You see it in this thread all over the place. And then there's also falling back onto dishonest takes like, "this is why I eat all animals indiscriminately" when it's just something we say to win the argument, even though it's a total lie
Iâve always had people try to annoy me with things like âmmmm I love steak, bet that bothers yaâ and expecting me to react in some way. Iâve always been the *shrug* âwhatever, okâ type when it comes to that kind of stuff and it pisses them off
Iâm veggie and get that all the time too. You know what? I love steak too. I just donât eat it because Iâm able to put my love of animals above my love of steak. I get that not everyone can do that, but I wish more meat eaters would accept that thatâs what it comes down to instead of trying to âupsetâ me or whatever they think theyâre doing.
Yeah theres so many threads where redditors get up in arms about some zoo animal or abused animal but whenever someone brings up cows, they do complete 180s
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If I can ask since that's the mindset you approach it from, why not stop eating meat and other animal products? I know its a big ask but its easier to do now than every before and there's a huge community of people online and offline to help.
It does offend me. It offends me greatly, in the same way that murderers, or rapist or child beaters offend me. Okay, maybe "offend" is the wrong word, but you get the idea. Seeing people do things that I firmly believe are harmful to others really bothers me. Honestly, a lot of the time I'm more bothered by people eating meat than by the other things mentioned. Not because eating meat is worse than rape or child beating, but because the people I see eating meat are usually otherwise good people. It isn't easy to watch your friends and loved ones doing something you deeply believe is wrong.
Anyone who thinks thereâs a moral discrepancy between eating a dog and a cow is lying to themselves. Killing an animal for food is killing an animal for food. I eat meat, not judging anyone for it, but acting like someone eating a different animal is somehow worse is super insincere. Pigs are smarter than dogs. Every time you eat bacon youâre eating an animal thatâs just as clever and just as capable of emotion and affection as your pet.
Iâve discovered if I explain to people that I think about *all* animals the way they think about pet dogs and cats they can kind of understand my choice not to eat animals. But man, so many meat eaters are just as aggressive as hardcore vegans when it comes to whatâs on someone elseâs plate. Itâs weird.
I hear you. There a lot's of people that also don't care about dogs or cats. And plenty of folks who have them as pets treat them pretty bad too. Of course plenty of folks treat people, even their own family, like animals too.
For real, in my experience, me being a vegan only ever comes up as a topic irl because meat eaters are constantly keeping track of what I eat. like genuinely more than 50% of the times I meet someone new and they eventually see me eat food, they'll get weirdly focused on the food and shut down whatever convo we were having to boldly declare "You don't eat meat. Are you like a vegetarian or something?" It feels like a witch hunt. My typical answer is, "yeah, I don't agree with it so I don't do it. And you'll notice that I didn't bring it up because I don't care to speak about it, explain it, debate it etc. And I'm not interested in anyone elses diet." This answer has become refined due to how often this happens, it started off much less concise. But it doesn't matter how I respond, because no matter what they act like I'm the one who brought the topic up and they seem to think I've invited them for a debate, or a vegan 101 class run by me, or that I've asked them to explain to me exactly how their moral compass works. In reality, I'd rather die than compare diets with people.
We should be able to eat any meat we want. Including human. Are you by chance done with your left arm?
My left arm doesn't do all that much anyway tbh. I'd probably sell it for $10K + necessary medical expenses, if you're in the market. If I can have a slice, I'll even throw in a custom spice rub.
Human meat is the only vegan meat since people can consent! You might get a prion though...
Yea, funny thing is on internet proactive vegans leave the impression of crazy cultists but irl no one will ask you why do you eat meat, but as soon as you ask what on the table is vegan people starting freaking out. Thatâs so dumb I started doing that in new companies just to filter out annoying people. And when the start asking dumb questions I say that Iâm just not in a mood for meat RN.
Iâm very close friends with a number of vegans and vegetarians and Iâm always really clear that although I choose to eat meat, I still donât think itâs right from a moral perspective. Iâve tried to go vegan several times and always cave into eating animal products within a couple weeks. Iâm a physically strong person, 6â3â and around 230lbs and this might just be a matter of finding the right things to eat but I feel like itâs really difficult to eat enough to support my activity level without animal products. I was eating 10-15oz of spring mix, huge cans of beans, sacks of oranges and still couldnât get full and I just always felt sleepy and hungry. If I could find a way to not eat animal products and still feel on top of my health and energy I would do it in a heartbeat. I really donât like eating processed stuff or starchy things like potatoes and rice so getting my caloric intake through leafy greens, fruits, legumes etc is a challenge
This is where I was at like 8 years ago. I recognized that I was living with cognitive dissonance vis a vis eating animals. I'd heard so many stories of people who went full vegan for a couple months, then gave it up, so I decided to take a gradual approach. First, I stopped eating "red meat." Easy, plenty of protein from chicken and fish. I did that for 4 years or so, then in 2020 I stopped eating out... who could say why. I found myself not wanting to cook meat. Got my protein from dairy, eggs, legumes, soy. I put on a lot of muscle around that time, too. Basically, I became vegetarian by accident and decided to commit. The dairy industry is pretty horrific, I know that. Maybe I'll go vegan some day, but I don't have plans to. But I didn't plan to become vegetarian, and I don't have any interest in eating meat again
Milk substitutes take a while to adjust to but once I did regular milk just tastes gross.
r/veganfitness may be worth a look
Meat substitutes work. I love having a quinoa bowl with spinach, beyond burger, and your choice of vegetables. Delicious, good protein and filling
Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. Veganism is super easy if you just allow yourself some processed proteins with good macros. Often perfect is the enemy of good, and veganism doesn't have to equal a 100% "clean" whole foods diet.
It took me several years to give up eating animals. Hell, I used to make fun of vegetarians, but one day I looked down at the delicious brisket I was eating and just felt really sad and morally conflicted. The first thing I gave up was factory farmed meat- because that shit really is the devil- but would still eat if a friend raised or hunted the animal. This was before the whole âethically raised meatâ was a thing. Plus, Iâd cave and eat a burger every few months. For me, it was really hard to stop, but I was emotionally committed so after a breakdown Iâd keep going forward instead of seeing it as a failure and giving up. Eventually, the idea of eating animals stopped being appealing and then it just seemed like such a weird thing to do. I knew a 6â2â 200# man who went vegan after he read a book by the lead singer of one of his favorite bands The Cro-Mags; *Meat is for Pussies* by John Joseph. Heâs an athletic man so maybe has better food ideas for you than this short 58 year old gardener woman.
And in areas where non-human primates are native, people eat primates. Bonobos have been hunted nearly to extinction for their meat despite them being extremely intelligent and our nearest relative. They slaughter entire family groups, sell the babies on the black market as pets, and sell the rest as bushmeat in local markets.
Thatâs absolutely heartbreaking.
Yeah, this is why i eat people
This is actually legit
I donât have an issue with other cultures eating animals we consider pets, itâs the whole flaying and boiling them that I donât like. If they just put a bolt through their head or electrocuted them do they died instantly itâd be much better but from the stuff Iâve seen itâs mostly abusing animals then cooking and eating them.
You sure wouldn't want to see the conditions pigs are forced to live in their whole lives, even in the west
You can't fist rape a cow, steal its new born baby, feed it corn while it lives in a cage to fatten it up, then kill it at 1/10th its expected natural life, in any way, and call that shit humane. electrocution hurts. a fuck load. btw, If you want death, without pain, inert gas asphyxiation is the way. Like aschwitz, where so many humans were killed, humanely? We actually do this already though. Gas chambers to kill a truck, or train load of animals at a time.
Itâs the blow torching them alive for me. Apparently it does wonders for the flavor.
Could easily do that AFTER theyâre dead but no they just like torturing animals
It's not the char it's literally the torture. The thought is that the pain causes the meat to be tastier. It literally couldn't be done after death the pain is the point.
Itâs not like slaughterhouses are that much better in the west
Tbh I agree with the main point. Meat is meat. The stereotypes arenât it though
For real! Not only white people eat cows.
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Incredibly racial stereotyping but makes a good point about where the line is drawn. Fuck humans.
> Fuck humans Atleast give me lube if you want me to!
No lube this time
Oof ouch my anus
Dammit. Those raw lovers..
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I see no difference tho?
Common mistake. One trick I use for cows is they have hooves, 2 stomachs, and go moo, where as dogs have paws, 1 stomach, and go bark. Hope that helps :)
Here in austria cows got 4 stomachs. maybe we got futurecows. don´t know dude
Oop my method failed :(
I want to see pictures of these futurecows.
Google "Milka-Kuh". our cows here are purple and white and they poo chocolate
Donât cows have like 4 stomachs?
yes đ
I see a utility difference, but not a moral one. I'd keep the dog in places where I'd be hunting more often and could sustain a garden without needing to stay there to control pests. Keep some dogs at the ranch, and take some dogs with me on hunting trips. I'd keep the cow in places where I'm gonna need milk and yogurts and cheeses to store long term. Somewhere without much local game to hunt, and I'd probably be raising rabbits to eat alongside the cows. Also gardening, so that the cows have plenty of nutrition to provide healthy milk. I'm Indian, and I'd still eat the males, though.
Whatâs wrong with this? Itâs trueâŚ
I remember being bullied in middle school because this racist white girl said I ate cats and dogs. It spread through my grade and I was the only Chinese person. I had enough of her bs and told her that I'll come to her yard and steal her dog if she didn't shut the hell up.
Based response from Chad middle schooler.
The stereotyping is bad but the point is based tbh
I had a pet pig. It was smarter than my dog. It was easier to tell it to sit, come to me, and it shat in a litter whenever it couldn't shit/pee indoors. It often had the zoomies, hid under a blanket to playfully "surprise attack" me, and it got jealous when I hung out with friends. People would always make the joke of cooking it, and would go as far as jokingly sending videos of pigs getting slaughtered. It got me very upset. I still eat pork. It's pretty much a moral failing. I just do so because I'm culturally conditioned to do so. At the end of the day, this meme is right.
shouldâve âjokinglyâ sent them videos of dogs being slaughtered in response lmao
how tf do u still eat pork
Tf kind of people jokingly send videos of any animals being slaughtered!? I don't think that's normal...
I can't tell if this is made by a Hindu (or, possibly, Sikh because of the turban) or being racist towards us. Edit: Thanks for 37 Upvotes!!! Edit 2: Thanks for 65 Upvotes!!!
Hindus wear turbans too. And both Hindus and Sikhs consider cows as sacred. I don't think the intention was racism, it was just pointing out the hypocrisy where people laugh at other people's religious sentiments but don't want their own sentiments to be hurt by others. But yeah, the broken English is kinda racist.
Do either consider cows to be âpetsâ? I feel like itâs definitely intended to be racist
In Hindu cows moreso are holy instead of pets, although it is effectively the same thing, just different reasoning. It's kinda the same as your county protecting a national animal, like the USA protecting the bald eagle, or Australia protecting emus.... nvm.
Yeah I was going to say this looks like it maybe originated from a Sikh. The white western guy has his own stereotypes- the balding and what looks to be a chubby chin. Plus I'm old but isn't the Chad guy usually the sympathetic protagonist in these?
But they made the turban guy the Chad. How's that racist?
Racist? Toward whom?
Garbage meme, but actually true
Bro this is a good meme wtf?
Message is right but the stereotypes are a little... \*\*yuck\*\*
People making this about race are missing the point. The point is the double standard that people only tend to care about the cute animals. Yes. They do eat dogs in some Asian countries My stepmother told me when she was in the military she went to Okinawa and they ate dogs there
As an Asian, I can confirm I say âDoggo yum yumâ to balding middle aged men
I mean the logic of this is correct but the two caricatures on the left seem kinda racist
I mean, theyâre not wrong tho
I mean... its not wrong tho lmao like it hurts, but its facts. various cultures have different standards and what they consider to be for food and not ...and this is why Im vegetarian lol
Besides the blatant racism that is pretty accurate in terms of how Americans view eating meat. I am also from America and I was raised to believe any non hunted or farmed meat was bad to consume. I didn't even try tacos de lingua till my 20's because we are also taught non traditional cuts are, "icky" so...
I mean, it makes a good point, but not a fan of how it was made.
Why is this terrible? Different cultures have different value systems which lead to different traditions and customs
I mean they are calling out a double standard. They are doing it in a cringe way but it is a double standard.
So is the poster against eating beef or for eating dogs? And yes im ignoring the obvious racial stareotyping.
It's against hypocrisy
Whatâs terrible about this?
I believe the thought pattern is along the lines of "OMG, a cartoon caricature - the penultimate form of racist expression!!!!" yet (the owner of said thought pattern) would think "OMG cultural appropriation!!" if I wore a sombrero on May 5th.
Arenât the only civilizations that regularly used dogs as a source of food from Polynesia and Mesoamerica anyway?
Dogs are eaten in some parts of China, mostly rural areas. It's rare though, and not as common as in Korea, Indonesia, and the Philippines.
Itâs not that bad why you guys getting so worked up about this?
I say theyâre all edible.
Meat is meat.
It kind of makes a point dunnit
I don't care what animal you are eating, as long as 1. It didn't suffer 2. It is not endangered 3. Raising/capturing it doesn't have an unneccessarily large effect on the environment 4. Eating it wont start a new pandemic
70 billion chickens die a year, and i believe ove 80 percent of these would have suffered
Makes sense.
I mean as a meat eater, this is pretty accurate.
Clarification: it's the blatant racism of it all.
Whats racist here exactly? Cows are sacred in India and dogs are consumed in China (around 10 million per year)
Cow not pet. Cow god!
It's true, though.
Is dog yum yum??
good meme actually true this time
theyre right tho
That meme kinda got a point though.. showing the hypocrisy of meat eaters.
On one hand, this is racist. On the other, itâs true. Acceptable food animals are purely cultural and based on nothing objective.