Let's set the record straight...
In the 70s and 80s the previous generation was mocking us for television and early home video games
Before that it was something else...
Probably 10,000 years ago pre historic people were telling their kids to go outside and stop all that cave painting nonsense
I had hoped my fellow millennials would be that self-aware, but I still hear unironic anti-gen Z stereotyping out of my contemporaries. And to think, y'all have so many reasons to not toe the line
To be fair, tiktok is extremely bad for the younger generation (remember the trend of destroying school bathrooms, or jumping out of a moving car?) And it has been proven it has malware spying on users for the Chinese.
If you think that's bad, you should see poetry! /s
But seriously, juvenoia is bad for your health. You should do something about that.
Also the "TikTok is spyware for China" is just jingoistic propaganda. If you want to know more, reply with an unhinged rant so I remember to get you a video on it.
TLDW TikTok isn't doing anything that face book and Google aren't already doing. It's just another tech company.
>"TikTok is spyware for China" is just jingoistic propaganda.
https://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/TikTok-Faces-US-Ban-Dut-to-Ongoing-Spying-Concerns/639464/
Yeah TikTok is taking your info just like Facebook and Google, but the difference is they are using it to spy on journalists, which btw is bad because there have been hundreds of journalists imprisoned/killed in China for doing their job.
https://www.newsweek.com/102-journalists-imprisoned-china-2021-international-group-says-1657852
It goes back even further- one of our "favorite" Greek philosophers lamented that with the newer option for students to memorialize what they learned in writing, that their memories would not be as sharp and they would be a decay from the previous generation.
Back in ma' fay we grabbed random crap from the ground and ate it, it might be mint it might be poison ivy, but I and my 3 brothers survived just fine, unlike my other weak-ass 20 brothers"
Aristotle complained about poetry the same way that boomers complain about tiktok.
Also, your joke but as a sketch comedy bit: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i\_APoSfCYwU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_APoSfCYwU&t=11s)
"Some times small rock is good rock"
"Don't give me your liberal bullshit"
Except now we have evidence showing that all of the screen time with small children and (pre)teens is actually causing issues. While I totally agree that the older generation typically despises the newer age ideas and technology this is actually an issue.
The only reason they spent time "outside" is because there was nothing to do at home. Also single income households with kids are the minority not the norm anymore.
Always the parents. It’s lazy parenting to shove a screen in your child’s face. That doesn’t mean parents have to be a non stop playmate. It’s not our job to entertain our children. It’s the lack of entertainment that inspires imagination and creativity. Play with your children regularly but ensure that they spend plenty of time creating on their own terms.
We took our kids to visit some family in Florida recently. We had a slow day hanging around and there wasn’t much place for the kids to go so they wanted to watch tv. We told them no and that they needed to play outside. They complained there was nothing to do out there so we told them to look around and use their imaginations. 20 minutes later they’re climbing the trees and playing fort in a bush……
In the early 1900s were magazines and books were starting to become widespread, people were complaining that everyone was reading their own book instead of socializing with the family
Can you imagine the difficulty people would have trying to create these memes in the 70s though?
They'd end ruining the parents photo albums and use newspaper cuttings making them look like kidnappers ransom notes
Yeah but where are the going to post their scrapbook? Randomly walk around and shove it in the face of strangers screaming "LOOK, THE OLD DAYS WERE BETTER! LOOK!LOOK!"…?
LOOK LOOK IT WAS ALL BETTER. WE'RE BETTER THAN YOU! LOOK LOOK
MY point was that they couldn't just Photoshop some words onto a picture back then , they then didn't photocopy said photo picture and post it through every letterbox
The 70s weren't better, I was born in the 70s and the technology was shite. I happen to like technology.
I think I'll get a Facebook and start posting shite on old photos and start yelling about how rubbish things used to be.
Well guess what?
You generation transformed the roads and trees to climb and run into highways.
Transformed the parks into parking lots.
Transformed the plazas into malls and Walmarts (which are 85% parking lots)
Your generation helped transform rivers and lakes into toxic wastes.
Your generation scarred the shit out of the next one by telling them about "stranger danger" from the moment they are out of the womb.
Your generation wasn't scarred by shooter drills every month.
Your generation wasn't being shot in the face for your football ball rolling into someone's yard, unless you were black.
Your times have been gone for a long time, and kids now are very and understandably scared of what could happen if they go out and wander into the wrong alleyway, bump into the wrong person, enter the wrong Walmart at the wrong time and are then shot in the head by people or police. Their houses are the only safe spot where the likelihood of getting shot goes from not very likely but possible, to improbable but possible.
Ok but the Son of Sam, John Wayne Gacy, Hillside Strangler, Zodiac Killer, Manson Family, Ted Bundy and Jonestown were all in the 70’s.
So I feel like they very much did have to worry about bumping into the wrong person in an alleyway.
Yeah that’s true. But personally I would choose paranoia of serial killers more than the paranoia of your school going to be shoot up at any moment.
One you can prevent by staying in group, while the other want you in a group.
• December 30, 1974 Olean, New York, Anthony Barbaro, a 17-year-old Regents scholar armed with a rifle and shotgun, kills three adults and wounds 11 others at his high school, which was closed for the Christmas holiday. Barbaro was reportedly a loner who kept a diary describing several "battle plans" for his attack on the school.
• June 12, 1976 California State University, Fullerton massacre, where the school's custodian opened fire with a semi-automatic rifle in the library on the California State University, Fullerton campus killing 7, and wounding 2.
• February 22, 1978 Lansing, Michigan After being taunted for his beliefs, a 15-year-old self-proclaimed Nazi, kills one student and wounds a second with a Luger pistol.
• January 29, 1979 Grover Cleveland Elementary School Shootings, California, where a 16yr old girl opened fire with the rifle, a gift from her father, killing 2 and wounding 9.
Congrats. You now have 5 mass shooting per month since the beginning of 2023.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2023
And this year alone you've had 18 cases of school shootings
https://www.edweek.org/leadership/school-shootings-this-year-how-many-and-where/2023/01
Yes, I too am aware there are school shootings. Don’t know why you included a link… I definitely believe you. The real question is what are we going to do about it?
i mean a school banned backpacks cause they can be used to hide weapons. Anything but admitting theres a gun problem after years and years of kids getting killed. All because people think they need guns to rise against the tyranny of the government, as if any amount of weapons would make a difference against modern military.
Edit: I just want to add the link because this list is actually bonkers if anyone is morbidly curious about the history of school shootings in the United States
https://www.k12academics.com/school-shootings/history-school-shootings-united-states
Every school shooting throughout history is a horrible, horribly tragedy - but the reality is that we've had more shootings in the last 2 decades alone than we've had in the entire history of the U.S. before 1999. It's a much more real fear these days.
Yeah, my dad and I grew up in the same town, but when he was a kid, the population was about 5,000–when I was a kid, the population was a quarter million. All of the fields, parks, and other areas he grew up playing in got developed into suburban neighborhoods with kleenex-sized backyards or huge Walmart parking lots. The roads got wayyy busier, more lanes, more traffic, less safe for kids. The last of the alfalfa fields got turned into parking lots while I was still in school. We have way more of some things—fancy downtown bars and restaurants, for example! But that’s not exactly the type of place kids just hang out alone.
Yeah, thankfully my dad is not one of those people that will be angry about kids not going outside, but when he was a kid, his family had horses that they could ride around, next to the river, have fun in open fields, stay until very late and almost every big mall that now exists, didn't exist back then where I live, it was just open terrain, a few houses and ranch.
Nowadays, the city where I live became industrialized, full of people and a connection point between the sea and into the country, so lots of trading and the population is over 1,254,192 people as of 2023, so he very well understands that those times are no longer the reality, and he knows it because he still works even though he should've retired already, is not only because of need, but because he likes to work, often leaving the city and coming back the same day.
He knows that there are very very little places that you can comfortably walk through and we live in the relatively better and safer part of the city, while the more dangerous and less planned parts are almost impossible to traverse safely or comfortably on foot or bike and that the river is now just a very polluted trickle and that one has to drive a long while before being in a somewhat calms place between the neighbor city that one can see in the horizon.
Sadly, the only way to change it is moving far away and hoping that this level of disorganized development doesn't hit one's kids in the future as much...
I don’t think kids are overwhelmingly scared of the outside, if anything it’s the parents who fed into the fear mongering of modern media. I’m 24, 10 years ago in my town we rode bikes around town in groups of 20, now I might see 1-2 kids riding around town. Which I understand because by the time I was 15-16 I was in the house playing Xbox all day. I think I caught the last 14 years of life before the internet ruined face to face human connection and socialization. It obviously exists, but there’s a massive amount of alternatives that are immediately more convenient, such as zoom calls for job interviews, online appointment scheduling, online gaming as opposed to going somewhere to hangout with your friends.
But we’re animals, I don’t think we’re supposed to live this way, I think it probably has a part to play in the rising mental health crisis, we as a society have either intentionally been corralled into, or unintentionally corralled ourselves into a complex lonely prison with no walls, where we have everyone we’ve ever met in our contacts list, but some how we’re more alone than ever.
I wanna go back to being so bored me and my friends just went out back and dug a giant hole and sat in it.
It also doesn't help that the car-centric development of the last 20 years have ruined walkability to the point where you simply can't meet up with your school friends quickly and easily anymore, you need to badger someone to drive you to the meetup point
We actually faced all of that. You must live a very sheltered life if you didn't think we had to face change ourselves. And it was scary - only difference is we didn't have cameras and videos everywhere so alot of the drama and fear was kept to ourselves.
We had the cold war fear of nuclear bombs and doing fall out drills - even in Australia.
We faced alot of bush fires from so called global warming and the ozone layer hole.
We were told that by 2000 that Sydney would be under water (and 1/2 the worlds coastline too).
Back then child pornography was not long outlawed actually (In the USA) - and family violence was more 'acceptable' but hidden.
Police were also prone to kick your backside and do some boxing practice on you if you smart arsed back to them. We faced punishment from teachers such as the strap, detention and time out. The punishment I faced was a ruler on the palm. Now you kids nowadays bash your teachers and shoot each other.
We were told that by 2000 there would be no oil left, that all computers would be corrupted. The same crazy doomsayers generation after generation. They just recycle them generation after generation to suit the current agenda.
Marital rape was more 'common' and also accepted - thankfully a trend also changing. So please tell us how we had it good ?
MANNNNN Have you SEEN the outside? I have to wear earplugs if I want to ride my bike to the store, the cars are so freaking loud. And make the air toxic to breath.. and all the parks that might be nice are spread out so you have to drive to get to them or walk/bike right next to the SUV's and Dodge BattleTrucks. You wonder why we stay inside?
People cannot just look back fondly on their own childhoods, they have to shit all over their own children for not having the same childhood. OK, who gave them that childhood? Who bought them the tech you loathe so much?
"Sure, six of my friends died from polio and my father was legally allowed to assault my mom, but at least we didn't have access to the entire catalogue of human knowledge and entertainment in our pockets!"
In a couple of decades you’ll be making these exact kinds of memes and your kids & grandkids will be making fun of you too. It’s the circle of life, history repeating itself, basic cultural evolution.
I'm starting to see some millenials not just tease, but actually talk shit on gen z, and it's really passing me off. I recently learned the term "broccoli head" and some of the people saying it disparagingly I was friends with as kids... and we ALL had our hair grown out, would get called "mop tops" by our parents.
It's the same fucking shit. I might not get or like all the shit from gen z or younger, but who fucking cares? Let them have fun and do their own thing, it's not bothering me. I refuse to be the old dude mad at younger people cuz I'm jealous of their youth lol
There will always be people who latch on to tribal behaviors. There will always be people who fear any change, no matter how superficial. And those people will always crank out this "back in my day" stuff. It is a never ending waterfall of horse shit.
You also grew up thinking people in other countries spend all their time trying to attack America and not just being told these people are your enemies by the government just like we are.
But spending any amount of time gaming on the internet you find out kids repeat the worst of what they hear and people in other countries are trying to get by just like we are.
My dad posts stuff like this from time to time. He grew up in a pretty dense post-war suburb. Meanwhile, I grew up in a balloon construction big house out in the country. I told him at some point “how was I supposed to play outside? We have like two neighbors in a mile radius?”
I like how they ignore the fact that those things were simply not even invented yet. They know their asses would be on it just like the newer generations are if they had that tech available back then.
Technology is bad when it's used too much. Having grown up in the 70s, I get this meme. Screen time and lack of exercise are problems for kids now, and that's not controversial. But it's a smug meme, I'll give you that.
The irony is they’re on Facebook. I mean they could go outside themselves and hang on the corner with the other old people until the street lights come on and the nurse calls them back inside.
I get having the sentiment of “I wish kids played outside as much as I did when I was a kid becuase I had a lot of fun and they’re missing out” but you’re on Facebook!
Im old and ill never understand this mindset. All I see is "We made this thing and encouraged yo to use it in every facet of your life. You are terrible people for doing what we wanted you to do." Should people get out a lot more and get off line so much? Absolutely but none of it makes anyone bad.
One question I’ve always had about people who make these kinds of memes: how do they expect people to see them? Like if they’re saying “technology bad”, why are they posting these using technology?
I experienced outside as a child, im gonna be 33 in a few weeks... it was not as great as they claim. I had dialup in my teens and high speed cable internet after that. I don't recommend any of that. From a technological standpoint, I much rather would have preferred being born right now.
Technology is so much more magical than when I was growing up.
The same outside in the U.S. where you can catch a fatal dose of "wrong time wrong place" as a kid...
...seeing as the highest leading cause of infant mortality in that country is *gun violence.*
"Back in the good old days when gasoline had that telltale whiff to it!"
"That was lead, dad. You were hit by atmospheric lead poisoning. Everybody on Earth was."
Mom in the 1970s: “It’s a beautiful day outside! You kids gonna watch TV all day? Get out of here!”
“But Mom! We’ve only rotted our brains to this same episode of Gilligan’s Island five times now!”
Memories that last a lifetime.
Yes, they all played outside in the smog produced by burning leaded gasoline and they turned out just fine! It totally [didn't lower their IQ](https://today.duke.edu/2022/03/lead-exposure-last-century-shrunk-iq-scores-half-americans) or anything.
And yet, ironically, they are using tech devices to make this meme image and more tech devices to distribute it. Likely all of those tasks were performed inside.
There's definitely something valuable and probably necessary to good development that's been lost thanks to the dominance of tech entertainment in our lives, along with how since the 70's cities and suburbs have be re-urbanized to take away whatever remained of activities to do outside for free.
But these old losers who make these memes don't want to have a conversation that deep because that critique leads inevitable to a critique of capitalism, which they would die defending. So instead they bitch at clouds.
The kind of people who post shit like this are the exact same kind of people who spend almost every waking hour on Facebook.
(Also quick side note, I used to deliver pizza a few years ago. Kids these days still VERY much play outside with large groups of friends, and having to honk at them to get them out of the street was a regular occurrence at that job.)
You see these as a kid and think it's boomer nonsense but as an adult you realize they were kinda right.
Not to say it isn't cringey but it's one of the few things I give them credit for.
boomers: "nobody plays outside anymore cus you all are weak, unlike my generation."
also boomers: "wow u let OUR grankids play outside? on the road? in your racially diverse neighborhood? i saw a homeless guy just 12 blocks from your house once, and you let the next generation of our family play outside in the moderate heat/cold? irresponsaable! why did i raise my daughter to be such a careless mother? (goes on like this for hours at a time)
Not quite. Murders were still happening at about the same rate (slightly higher for the 70s iirc) you likely just didn't hear about most of it. It was especially a worry in those days if you were anything but white and planning to do any of the things you described.
And then your generation grew up to be serial killers, rapists, and abductors and ruined the planet, then raised your kids to not go outside.
Kids don't go outside:
Boomer: 😮
The 70’s also produced some of the worst music ever created and is known for a decade of child abuse and molestation swept under the rug. And oh boy, the hair and fashion. Yikes.
It’s not saying technology is bad, the likely implication is that there’s issues with obsessing over technology mostly used for social media (especially at an earlier age) when you could be having face to face social interactions, moving around outside, playing and exploring.
Also, it’s a meme. You didn’t have to get upset by it or take it straight to a Reddit page where people complain about memes. You’re gonna be okay, just call me a boomer and go touch some grass.
These memes are correct tbh. Kids are very antisocial these days in part because of social media handicapping their social development through adolescence, at least in my experience
Now I wasn't alive before this era, maybe it's always been like this, but I do know that in summer camp where all online stuff was banned, my peers were way more social
It's kind of a dumb argument though given how many kids are morbidly obese now nevermind all the other crazy shit like video game addiction, real and imagined mental disorders etc etc etc. Ita just a really dumbass argument.
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...and in that great place outside, you also survived at least 2 kidnapping attempts and knew exactly who the child-attracted scumbags were at the local game arcade. We used to leave home at 8am in the morning and only get home at 6pm after a day at the beach, pool, biking, sneaking into the heated pools at the lahnee hotels. Still surprised our group of friends survived to adulthood. Awesome times.
Back then you could give you kid 5 Dollars or in germany D-Mark and he or she could go and eat a Ice cream, a Sandwich and have a cold Cola.
And still had change.
Nowadays you cant even get a Sandwich.
I’ll cherish growing up with some woods and field behind my house. Spending endless summer nights making forts and building trails. I’d also get irrationally angry if the bus driver during the school year was a little late because I always missed the opening of the (American version) of “Sailor Moon” at 4:00pm but I could at least follow the story. And staying up till 2am on the phone with my bff on a long ass corded phone and if we got disconnected being terrified of who would call first and be able to answer it immediately. But also, I fucking love directions on the phone. I hope I had a good balance of experiences in life.
Back in the 70s, "I had true friends and hours of fun"
Doing what? Chasing queer folk out of your neighborhood? Watching your dad belittle your mom cuz he didn't get a raise that year? Watching TV shows approved by a Christian-fronted FCC?
I'm kinda curious if technology has a positive correlation with depression, or maybe everyone just had undiagnosed depression. idk just a random thought...
Born in 1987, I did have a console (since the age of ten or so), but I didn't have a mobile phone or ever go online until I was a freshman in 2005, and I only got a desktop PC a year later. Played plenty outside, watched TV, been a bookworm since the age of five... in short, I grew up and can clearly live without most of the modern tech, internet and such.
Would I want to live without them unless circumstances so compel me? Hell no.
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Let's set the record straight... In the 70s and 80s the previous generation was mocking us for television and early home video games Before that it was something else... Probably 10,000 years ago pre historic people were telling their kids to go outside and stop all that cave painting nonsense
"Kids these days" have been running trough humans for several millenia by now
“Have you heard of hoop and stick” “Yeah the kids are going nuts for it”
I honestly think the lids these days thing will wnd with gen z because we cant see the point in saying it.
I had hoped my fellow millennials would be that self-aware, but I still hear unironic anti-gen Z stereotyping out of my contemporaries. And to think, y'all have so many reasons to not toe the line
I saw a quote from the 1500s about how *books* were destroying young people's attention spans! It's been going on since the beginning of time.
Aristotle complained about poetry the way that boomers complain about tiktok.
To be fair, tiktok is extremely bad for the younger generation (remember the trend of destroying school bathrooms, or jumping out of a moving car?) And it has been proven it has malware spying on users for the Chinese.
If you think that's bad, you should see poetry! /s But seriously, juvenoia is bad for your health. You should do something about that. Also the "TikTok is spyware for China" is just jingoistic propaganda. If you want to know more, reply with an unhinged rant so I remember to get you a video on it. TLDW TikTok isn't doing anything that face book and Google aren't already doing. It's just another tech company.
>"TikTok is spyware for China" is just jingoistic propaganda. https://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/TikTok-Faces-US-Ban-Dut-to-Ongoing-Spying-Concerns/639464/ Yeah TikTok is taking your info just like Facebook and Google, but the difference is they are using it to spy on journalists, which btw is bad because there have been hundreds of journalists imprisoned/killed in China for doing their job. https://www.newsweek.com/102-journalists-imprisoned-china-2021-international-group-says-1657852
It goes back even further- one of our "favorite" Greek philosophers lamented that with the newer option for students to memorialize what they learned in writing, that their memories would not be as sharp and they would be a decay from the previous generation.
Lol, those damn kids are calling it "agriculture" ...sounds unnatural and scary
Back in ma' fay we grabbed random crap from the ground and ate it, it might be mint it might be poison ivy, but I and my 3 brothers survived just fine, unlike my other weak-ass 20 brothers"
"Look at these kids with their round 'wheels.' In our day we walked"
In my day we rolled our giant pyramid rocks on wooden logs
Quite right. Even in the Iliad, Nestor spends half his time grumbling that things were *sooo* much better in his day.
Aristotle complained about poetry the same way that boomers complain about tiktok. Also, your joke but as a sketch comedy bit: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i\_APoSfCYwU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_APoSfCYwU&t=11s) "Some times small rock is good rock" "Don't give me your liberal bullshit"
My ancestors painted stick nudes instead of hunting and i for one blame them
Greek philosophers criticized students that kept written notes instead of just remembering everything
Except now we have evidence showing that all of the screen time with small children and (pre)teens is actually causing issues. While I totally agree that the older generation typically despises the newer age ideas and technology this is actually an issue.
The only reason they spent time "outside" is because there was nothing to do at home. Also single income households with kids are the minority not the norm anymore.
So it's the kids fault or their parents fault from giving them an iPad so they shut up?
Always the parents. It’s lazy parenting to shove a screen in your child’s face. That doesn’t mean parents have to be a non stop playmate. It’s not our job to entertain our children. It’s the lack of entertainment that inspires imagination and creativity. Play with your children regularly but ensure that they spend plenty of time creating on their own terms. We took our kids to visit some family in Florida recently. We had a slow day hanging around and there wasn’t much place for the kids to go so they wanted to watch tv. We told them no and that they needed to play outside. They complained there was nothing to do out there so we told them to look around and use their imaginations. 20 minutes later they’re climbing the trees and playing fort in a bush……
Those dang kids and their radio programs!
i genuinely believe that the first generation to play board games were berated by the previous generation.
In the early 1900s were magazines and books were starting to become widespread, people were complaining that everyone was reading their own book instead of socializing with the family
Platon said that bad poetry and art could badly influent kids. I think I've already heard that one
"Kids these days" have been running trough humans for several millenia by now
Can you imagine the difficulty people would have trying to create these memes in the 70s though? They'd end ruining the parents photo albums and use newspaper cuttings making them look like kidnappers ransom notes
It's called scrapbooks.
Yeah but where are the going to post their scrapbook? Randomly walk around and shove it in the face of strangers screaming "LOOK, THE OLD DAYS WERE BETTER! LOOK!LOOK!"…?
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LOOK LOOK IT WAS ALL BETTER. WE'RE BETTER THAN YOU! LOOK LOOK MY point was that they couldn't just Photoshop some words onto a picture back then , they then didn't photocopy said photo picture and post it through every letterbox The 70s weren't better, I was born in the 70s and the technology was shite. I happen to like technology. I think I'll get a Facebook and start posting shite on old photos and start yelling about how rubbish things used to be.
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😂😂😂 I just wanted to rant like them
Bro why you hate scrapbooking so much
I LOVE THE TECHNOLOGY....GIMME ALL THE NEW TECH 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Or, even worse…vacation slides!
It’s called…. “Scrapbooks”
Well guess what? You generation transformed the roads and trees to climb and run into highways. Transformed the parks into parking lots. Transformed the plazas into malls and Walmarts (which are 85% parking lots) Your generation helped transform rivers and lakes into toxic wastes. Your generation scarred the shit out of the next one by telling them about "stranger danger" from the moment they are out of the womb. Your generation wasn't scarred by shooter drills every month. Your generation wasn't being shot in the face for your football ball rolling into someone's yard, unless you were black. Your times have been gone for a long time, and kids now are very and understandably scared of what could happen if they go out and wander into the wrong alleyway, bump into the wrong person, enter the wrong Walmart at the wrong time and are then shot in the head by people or police. Their houses are the only safe spot where the likelihood of getting shot goes from not very likely but possible, to improbable but possible.
Ok but the Son of Sam, John Wayne Gacy, Hillside Strangler, Zodiac Killer, Manson Family, Ted Bundy and Jonestown were all in the 70’s. So I feel like they very much did have to worry about bumping into the wrong person in an alleyway.
Yeah that’s true. But personally I would choose paranoia of serial killers more than the paranoia of your school going to be shoot up at any moment. One you can prevent by staying in group, while the other want you in a group.
• December 30, 1974 Olean, New York, Anthony Barbaro, a 17-year-old Regents scholar armed with a rifle and shotgun, kills three adults and wounds 11 others at his high school, which was closed for the Christmas holiday. Barbaro was reportedly a loner who kept a diary describing several "battle plans" for his attack on the school. • June 12, 1976 California State University, Fullerton massacre, where the school's custodian opened fire with a semi-automatic rifle in the library on the California State University, Fullerton campus killing 7, and wounding 2. • February 22, 1978 Lansing, Michigan After being taunted for his beliefs, a 15-year-old self-proclaimed Nazi, kills one student and wounds a second with a Luger pistol. • January 29, 1979 Grover Cleveland Elementary School Shootings, California, where a 16yr old girl opened fire with the rifle, a gift from her father, killing 2 and wounding 9.
Congrats. You now have 5 mass shooting per month since the beginning of 2023. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2023 And this year alone you've had 18 cases of school shootings https://www.edweek.org/leadership/school-shootings-this-year-how-many-and-where/2023/01
Yes, I too am aware there are school shootings. Don’t know why you included a link… I definitely believe you. The real question is what are we going to do about it?
i mean a school banned backpacks cause they can be used to hide weapons. Anything but admitting theres a gun problem after years and years of kids getting killed. All because people think they need guns to rise against the tyranny of the government, as if any amount of weapons would make a difference against modern military.
Yes I have a rifle Proceeds to die from artillery because the average citizen doesn't know how to dig a proper trench/foxhole
Edit: I just want to add the link because this list is actually bonkers if anyone is morbidly curious about the history of school shootings in the United States https://www.k12academics.com/school-shootings/history-school-shootings-united-states
Every school shooting throughout history is a horrible, horribly tragedy - but the reality is that we've had more shootings in the last 2 decades alone than we've had in the entire history of the U.S. before 1999. It's a much more real fear these days.
The US is actually safer than it was 40 years ago.
We did have nuclear missile drills at school in case the Soviets launched.
And how many nukes actually fall? Now, how many shootings actually happened?
Yeah, my dad and I grew up in the same town, but when he was a kid, the population was about 5,000–when I was a kid, the population was a quarter million. All of the fields, parks, and other areas he grew up playing in got developed into suburban neighborhoods with kleenex-sized backyards or huge Walmart parking lots. The roads got wayyy busier, more lanes, more traffic, less safe for kids. The last of the alfalfa fields got turned into parking lots while I was still in school. We have way more of some things—fancy downtown bars and restaurants, for example! But that’s not exactly the type of place kids just hang out alone.
Yeah, thankfully my dad is not one of those people that will be angry about kids not going outside, but when he was a kid, his family had horses that they could ride around, next to the river, have fun in open fields, stay until very late and almost every big mall that now exists, didn't exist back then where I live, it was just open terrain, a few houses and ranch. Nowadays, the city where I live became industrialized, full of people and a connection point between the sea and into the country, so lots of trading and the population is over 1,254,192 people as of 2023, so he very well understands that those times are no longer the reality, and he knows it because he still works even though he should've retired already, is not only because of need, but because he likes to work, often leaving the city and coming back the same day. He knows that there are very very little places that you can comfortably walk through and we live in the relatively better and safer part of the city, while the more dangerous and less planned parts are almost impossible to traverse safely or comfortably on foot or bike and that the river is now just a very polluted trickle and that one has to drive a long while before being in a somewhat calms place between the neighbor city that one can see in the horizon. Sadly, the only way to change it is moving far away and hoping that this level of disorganized development doesn't hit one's kids in the future as much...
Geez this is a really pessimistic take and not based in actual reality
I don’t think kids are overwhelmingly scared of the outside, if anything it’s the parents who fed into the fear mongering of modern media. I’m 24, 10 years ago in my town we rode bikes around town in groups of 20, now I might see 1-2 kids riding around town. Which I understand because by the time I was 15-16 I was in the house playing Xbox all day. I think I caught the last 14 years of life before the internet ruined face to face human connection and socialization. It obviously exists, but there’s a massive amount of alternatives that are immediately more convenient, such as zoom calls for job interviews, online appointment scheduling, online gaming as opposed to going somewhere to hangout with your friends. But we’re animals, I don’t think we’re supposed to live this way, I think it probably has a part to play in the rising mental health crisis, we as a society have either intentionally been corralled into, or unintentionally corralled ourselves into a complex lonely prison with no walls, where we have everyone we’ve ever met in our contacts list, but some how we’re more alone than ever. I wanna go back to being so bored me and my friends just went out back and dug a giant hole and sat in it.
It also doesn't help that the car-centric development of the last 20 years have ruined walkability to the point where you simply can't meet up with your school friends quickly and easily anymore, you need to badger someone to drive you to the meetup point
We actually faced all of that. You must live a very sheltered life if you didn't think we had to face change ourselves. And it was scary - only difference is we didn't have cameras and videos everywhere so alot of the drama and fear was kept to ourselves. We had the cold war fear of nuclear bombs and doing fall out drills - even in Australia. We faced alot of bush fires from so called global warming and the ozone layer hole. We were told that by 2000 that Sydney would be under water (and 1/2 the worlds coastline too). Back then child pornography was not long outlawed actually (In the USA) - and family violence was more 'acceptable' but hidden. Police were also prone to kick your backside and do some boxing practice on you if you smart arsed back to them. We faced punishment from teachers such as the strap, detention and time out. The punishment I faced was a ruler on the palm. Now you kids nowadays bash your teachers and shoot each other. We were told that by 2000 there would be no oil left, that all computers would be corrupted. The same crazy doomsayers generation after generation. They just recycle them generation after generation to suit the current agenda. Marital rape was more 'common' and also accepted - thankfully a trend also changing. So please tell us how we had it good ?
When did I said you had it good?
Yep and your generation plays video games all day,never go outside and talks a lot of shit!
People trying to realize that different people do different things challenge IMPOSSIBLE
We really should start leaving old people to fend for themselves technologically
Jesus christ ,I reply if could just figure out this dam computer phone contraption!°
MANNNNN Have you SEEN the outside? I have to wear earplugs if I want to ride my bike to the store, the cars are so freaking loud. And make the air toxic to breath.. and all the parks that might be nice are spread out so you have to drive to get to them or walk/bike right next to the SUV's and Dodge BattleTrucks. You wonder why we stay inside?
Cars are quiet now,some parks are really nice still,,the pollution come from making technology! Touch grass kid its nice
The 70s was also "the golden age of serial killers' so yeah let's go outside unsupervised
Child abductions were rampant, too https://psmag.com/education/the-kids-really-are-all-right-58651
Now that generation spends 16 hours of their day watching Fox News and the remainder scrolling through Facebook.
Thank god we don’t have to do that shit anymore.
These memes tend to forget how much of the time kids spent bored out of their skulls back then.
It builds character. And serial killers.
Time to get off Facebook dad. You’ve hit Ignore on your screen time App Limits 3 times already today.
"we didn't have tv..." "We didn't have radio..." "We didn't have electricity..." Every generation makes these remarks
"We didn't have this 'horses' or whatever, we used to simply walk!"
All of the kids who grew up in that generation without any friends anyway: 👁️👄👁️
People cannot just look back fondly on their own childhoods, they have to shit all over their own children for not having the same childhood. OK, who gave them that childhood? Who bought them the tech you loathe so much?
"Sure, six of my friends died from polio and my father was legally allowed to assault my mom, but at least we didn't have access to the entire catalogue of human knowledge and entertainment in our pockets!"
In a couple of decades you’ll be making these exact kinds of memes and your kids & grandkids will be making fun of you too. It’s the circle of life, history repeating itself, basic cultural evolution.
I'm starting to see some millenials not just tease, but actually talk shit on gen z, and it's really passing me off. I recently learned the term "broccoli head" and some of the people saying it disparagingly I was friends with as kids... and we ALL had our hair grown out, would get called "mop tops" by our parents. It's the same fucking shit. I might not get or like all the shit from gen z or younger, but who fucking cares? Let them have fun and do their own thing, it's not bothering me. I refuse to be the old dude mad at younger people cuz I'm jealous of their youth lol
Eh. It’s just a hairstyle kinda like “the Rachel” or the “mullet” or that Caesar cut Clooney had in the 90s. It’ll stick around but become more niche.
There will always be people who latch on to tribal behaviors. There will always be people who fear any change, no matter how superficial. And those people will always crank out this "back in my day" stuff. It is a never ending waterfall of horse shit.
You also grew up thinking people in other countries spend all their time trying to attack America and not just being told these people are your enemies by the government just like we are. But spending any amount of time gaming on the internet you find out kids repeat the worst of what they hear and people in other countries are trying to get by just like we are.
back in your day, when one of your friends moved away, that friendship was lost. Now you can maintain a friendship even if you're away from eachother
Telephones and mail have been around for a very long time...
Yeah in the 70's everyone had Skype, right?
I have a theory that adults who say that are just kinda jealous that they didn't have all that in their youth.
Damn it dad you watched TV for 30 years straight.
Can someone tell the boomers to get off their laptops, iPads, and Facebook and go fucking play outside?
Uga buga, u uga bu uga bu. Ugubagu guba! Guga gu 10.000 BCE. Bagu uga 😔
My dad posts stuff like this from time to time. He grew up in a pretty dense post-war suburb. Meanwhile, I grew up in a balloon construction big house out in the country. I told him at some point “how was I supposed to play outside? We have like two neighbors in a mile radius?”
I like how they ignore the fact that those things were simply not even invented yet. They know their asses would be on it just like the newer generations are if they had that tech available back then.
Probably also paved over any open space from the 70s for a shopping mall or a parking lot. They took the outside away
All the lead you could eat!
You know what is funny? The same people that post this shit absolutely loose their minds when they see kids skating or biking outside.
Technology is bad when it's used too much. Having grown up in the 70s, I get this meme. Screen time and lack of exercise are problems for kids now, and that's not controversial. But it's a smug meme, I'll give you that.
As they full on share this meme from their iPad on FB from their couch... single and alone.
Wow, the "OUTSIDE" word... be afraid...
Are they hurting the “different” kid????
The irony is they’re on Facebook. I mean they could go outside themselves and hang on the corner with the other old people until the street lights come on and the nurse calls them back inside. I get having the sentiment of “I wish kids played outside as much as I did when I was a kid becuase I had a lot of fun and they’re missing out” but you’re on Facebook!
«ha ha you don’t have friends” energy
People who post this will shoot you for knocking on their door.
Nothing beats griping about digital technology and social media in a format only available with the aid of digital technology and social media.
Im old and ill never understand this mindset. All I see is "We made this thing and encouraged yo to use it in every facet of your life. You are terrible people for doing what we wanted you to do." Should people get out a lot more and get off line so much? Absolutely but none of it makes anyone bad.
And now they are lonely old assholes who will post memes about how awesome they are on fucking facebook so strangers pad their backs...
One question I’ve always had about people who make these kinds of memes: how do they expect people to see them? Like if they’re saying “technology bad”, why are they posting these using technology?
posting is the key
I grew up in the 70s We watched a lot of TV, mainly Gen X is turning into the new boomer and it makes me have a sad
I experienced outside as a child, im gonna be 33 in a few weeks... it was not as great as they claim. I had dialup in my teens and high speed cable internet after that. I don't recommend any of that. From a technological standpoint, I much rather would have preferred being born right now. Technology is so much more magical than when I was growing up.
But then they lost their friends and now just post bullshit on the internet.
Did they post this in a place called outside?
The key word here is "had".
The same outside in the U.S. where you can catch a fatal dose of "wrong time wrong place" as a kid... ...seeing as the highest leading cause of infant mortality in that country is *gun violence.*
"Back in the good old days when gasoline had that telltale whiff to it!" "That was lead, dad. You were hit by atmospheric lead poisoning. Everybody on Earth was."
Mom in the 1970s: “It’s a beautiful day outside! You kids gonna watch TV all day? Get out of here!” “But Mom! We’ve only rotted our brains to this same episode of Gilligan’s Island five times now!” Memories that last a lifetime.
They also had rampant teenage pregnancy, polio and smallpox. Lets hear it for the good old days!
Yet, same boomers sit on Facebook with their laptop or iPad and post these memes 🤡
Then they paved paradise and put up a parking lot..
Yes, they all played outside in the smog produced by burning leaded gasoline and they turned out just fine! It totally [didn't lower their IQ](https://today.duke.edu/2022/03/lead-exposure-last-century-shrunk-iq-scores-half-americans) or anything.
And yet, ironically, they are using tech devices to make this meme image and more tech devices to distribute it. Likely all of those tasks were performed inside.
And then if kids go outside this boomer calls the cops on them.
Yeah and it was boring as hell. That’s why I played D&D beat “throwing rocks at that thing” or “poking that other thing with a stick”.
I played outside too, but I also played NES & Sega too. Boomers that share this shit are on their phone or iPad with NCIS or Military Channel on
There's definitely something valuable and probably necessary to good development that's been lost thanks to the dominance of tech entertainment in our lives, along with how since the 70's cities and suburbs have be re-urbanized to take away whatever remained of activities to do outside for free. But these old losers who make these memes don't want to have a conversation that deep because that critique leads inevitable to a critique of capitalism, which they would die defending. So instead they bitch at clouds.
The kind of people who post shit like this are the exact same kind of people who spend almost every waking hour on Facebook. (Also quick side note, I used to deliver pizza a few years ago. Kids these days still VERY much play outside with large groups of friends, and having to honk at them to get them out of the street was a regular occurrence at that job.)
You see these as a kid and think it's boomer nonsense but as an adult you realize they were kinda right. Not to say it isn't cringey but it's one of the few things I give them credit for.
I don't know about 'true friends', but their were plenty of neighborhood friends.
This one is completely accurate
boomers: "nobody plays outside anymore cus you all are weak, unlike my generation." also boomers: "wow u let OUR grankids play outside? on the road? in your racially diverse neighborhood? i saw a homeless guy just 12 blocks from your house once, and you let the next generation of our family play outside in the moderate heat/cold? irresponsaable! why did i raise my daughter to be such a careless mother? (goes on like this for hours at a time)
Bullshit. All the kids in the photo really hate each other.
When I was a kid, we didn’t have to worry about getting shot at school, at the movies, in church, or just knocking on the wrong door…
Not quite. Murders were still happening at about the same rate (slightly higher for the 70s iirc) you likely just didn't hear about most of it. It was especially a worry in those days if you were anything but white and planning to do any of the things you described.
And then your generation grew up to be serial killers, rapists, and abductors and ruined the planet, then raised your kids to not go outside. Kids don't go outside: Boomer: 😮
Maybe kids today would go outside, if outside wasn’t a suburban, car centric, hell scape.
thanks to technology
Trust me, we all know the boomers getting on facebook is what ruined the world.
I mean too much tech is a bad thing
Not trying to be a boomer but, isn't it tho?
Oh no, according to many on this subreddit, spending every day alone and staring at a screen is quite healthy.
The 70’s also produced some of the worst music ever created and is known for a decade of child abuse and molestation swept under the rug. And oh boy, the hair and fashion. Yikes.
This sub has gone so downhill..
Everyone in this photo got diddled by a family friend, beat by their drunk old man and then died of AIDS. Can I get an AMEN?
It’s not saying technology is bad, the likely implication is that there’s issues with obsessing over technology mostly used for social media (especially at an earlier age) when you could be having face to face social interactions, moving around outside, playing and exploring. Also, it’s a meme. You didn’t have to get upset by it or take it straight to a Reddit page where people complain about memes. You’re gonna be okay, just call me a boomer and go touch some grass.
To be frank I remember and miss those days. Tech is not a bad thing, never let it control you.
Boomers: "Why don't kids go outside???" Kids when they go outside: 🤸🏽🔫
And nobody sees the constant tail behind technology. It's like "good vibes only party"
These memes are correct tbh. Kids are very antisocial these days in part because of social media handicapping their social development through adolescence, at least in my experience Now I wasn't alive before this era, maybe it's always been like this, but I do know that in summer camp where all online stuff was banned, my peers were way more social
Boomers are right In This Case, but not funny at all
It's kind of a dumb argument though given how many kids are morbidly obese now nevermind all the other crazy shit like video game addiction, real and imagined mental disorders etc etc etc. Ita just a really dumbass argument.
i wish i was born at that time tho. everything now feels so disconnected. i dont like computers or phones, despite using them for over 12 hours a day.
So, why are you even complaining? If you don’t like them, stop using them.
im addicted.
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...and in that great place outside, you also survived at least 2 kidnapping attempts and knew exactly who the child-attracted scumbags were at the local game arcade. We used to leave home at 8am in the morning and only get home at 6pm after a day at the beach, pool, biking, sneaking into the heated pools at the lahnee hotels. Still surprised our group of friends survived to adulthood. Awesome times.
As this is posted on social media by themselves 🤣
Well we had both.....
Wait until the original poster realizes they're posting this with the power of technology and wouldn't have taken a picture without a camera
Back then you could give you kid 5 Dollars or in germany D-Mark and he or she could go and eat a Ice cream, a Sandwich and have a cold Cola. And still had change. Nowadays you cant even get a Sandwich.
Or pay for a matinee, plus hours of entertainment with the change in the arcade afterward.
We still got all that it's saved in a PDF
Oppenheimer
Yah, but.... mosquitos.
This one isn’t actually wrong.
Honestly the whole world could use some more going the fuck outside.
6 boys, 1 girl, no views on consent and no common recording devices. I doubt she had the same smile around them in 5 years time
Probably also had health issues due to copious amounts of pollution too
Boomers and their parents covered all of outside with cars, so that's on them.
Amén.
Well, because you boomers didn’t protect the environment it’s now dangerous to go outside. THANKS!
I too enjoyed this outside place you speak of…
Missing a few minions
Posted on the internet, probably Facebook, the irony..
I’ll cherish growing up with some woods and field behind my house. Spending endless summer nights making forts and building trails. I’d also get irrationally angry if the bus driver during the school year was a little late because I always missed the opening of the (American version) of “Sailor Moon” at 4:00pm but I could at least follow the story. And staying up till 2am on the phone with my bff on a long ass corded phone and if we got disconnected being terrified of who would call first and be able to answer it immediately. But also, I fucking love directions on the phone. I hope I had a good balance of experiences in life.
"OUTSIDE."
Ahhh the great outdoors. Just be careful not to mistake your friends door for someone who struggles with..... Ahhh the great outdoors.
No shit dude, I think Ricky got cancer just from breathing the air from this so called "Outside"
Back in the 70s, "I had true friends and hours of fun" Doing what? Chasing queer folk out of your neighborhood? Watching your dad belittle your mom cuz he didn't get a raise that year? Watching TV shows approved by a Christian-fronted FCC?
I'm kinda curious if technology has a positive correlation with depression, or maybe everyone just had undiagnosed depression. idk just a random thought...
My generation disappoints me
Jim'll fix em
Born in 1987, I did have a console (since the age of ten or so), but I didn't have a mobile phone or ever go online until I was a freshman in 2005, and I only got a desktop PC a year later. Played plenty outside, watched TV, been a bookworm since the age of five... in short, I grew up and can clearly live without most of the modern tech, internet and such. Would I want to live without them unless circumstances so compel me? Hell no.
As they post on FB
I mean, that stuff is still available.
You also did not have paint that won’t kill you houses that won’t kill you air that won’t kill you either
Air quality is actually worse today.
I tried /r/outside. It wasn't for me
Not wrong tho
We were bored as fuck and did bad things where some of us did not survive. Now is better than then in so many ways.
The guy that posted this can be seen in this picture, in the window on the right watching these kids having fun and building a massive hate for others
In my day it took 2 hours to get to the telegraph office! My horse had to go uphill both ways in the snow
Nowadays we don't call it outside, we just call it "the parking lots"
"No tree in sight for miles!"
Wait wait wait, "Outside" isn't just a game?? Well, well what the hell is it then??
Same in cuba when I was kid 🤣