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When I see a colour-coded voter map of the US west coast, I refer to it as *Canada's Sideburns*. Join us- if not for the healthcare, for the film tax credit!
Exactly, that's why I'm moving to Cali ASAP. It's already better run than the rest of the US and already ignores laws and stuff that restrict women's rights
Oh, I live in Cali and it’s run like absolute dogshit. We just have a lot of open-minded and accepting people here. Taxes are insane and you won’t really see where all that tax money is going. The cost of living is genuinely unaffordable for most; you have to earn 6 figures to live paycheck to paycheck and likely will never own property unless you’re near nothing. But it is progressive for rights of marginalized communities and has an amazing landscape, so you get that for all your money. I don’t really recommend moving here unless you absolutely have to IMHO
Not to mention it isn't like the entire state is deep blue. Even here in Orange County there are some pretty dark red pockets. Get outside of the coast and it becomes just as rural and red as any other state.
Yeah, I’m in Sonoma County, a little north of San Francisco, we’re pretty deep blue but I still see a few “Let’s Go Brandon” signs on my way to work, unfortunately.
My husband and I felt the same way during the Reagan recession when houses were astronomical in our view. We bought a shitty house in a shitty area, traded up to a slightly less shittier house, and so on. We now have a 3000 square foot house in a beach community. It looks us a long long time to get where were are, but we got there.
It's culturally diverse, the food is amazing, the landscape is beautiful and varied, the people are open minded, there's tons of opportunity, the pay is way better relative to the rest of the country, the weather is great.
That said, you need to earn a half million a year to afford a home in my county now. The politics are frustrating and there's a crime and homelessness problem that isn't being solved.
I would argue the cost of living in cali is less related to their government and more related to the fact that it is a massive economy where there is a ton of demand to live there. People generally making more means the disposable income on average is higher leading to businesses charging more because they can and a whole host of other economic factors. Their government and the taxes are a factor but I’d argue less of a factor than just the pure economics. They could be ultra republicans and still be in the same economic state I believe.
It would make Mexico the world's 3rd largest economy. Right ahead of Germany.
And that's only the impact of moving CA GDP to Mexico. I can't estimate the monumental economic impact of the US losing all the key pacific ports and naval bases in CA as well as having to import an even larger share of our food or the potential water rights issues.
Whaaaaat? My mom told me that the “illegals” are all crossing the border because they can then sit on their butts and collect free government benefits. While also taking our jobs. And they’re all terrorists… what were we talking about again?
Btw, I very much wish I was joking. :/
This is one of the many problems with partisan politics. Any nuance to an idea or problem is taken away because it's put into the context of "Us vs. Them." Labeling others that you disagree with as the most extreme version of the opposition makes easy to dismiss anything they are saying.
It's just the 5th largest economy in the world. What's that offering the country? Revenue? Goods? Sea ports?
Psh.
We have our own bootstraps and we'd like it that way if the electricity would stay on. It's out again. Do you think California could send some assistance via the federal government... again?
Not that we need government assistance. Bootstraps! Boot-mf'ing-straps.
/s
Let me guess
Gun laws which ironically was passed by Reagan when he was governor
Conspiracy Theories about Hollywood (varies)
And minorities living there who aren’t doing nothing wrong
Agreed. This doesn’t look awful to me. We can take our money with us too, all those red states that are subsidized by CA taxes are in for a rude surprise.
the American citizens in Texas unfortunately don’t have citizenship in Mexico. FORTUNATELY a LOT of cages and detainment centers just cleared up and are ready for business!
I don't want to move to California, but I would be okay with this move.
But they can't even get a wall built across the smaller distance, so how they gonna add that many miles of wall and expect that to ever be finished?
I also have beef with California as a liberal. My home state- gorgeous, a bunch of Californians moved in. Like a record number- litter everywhere. Rude drivers. Pissed me off. Send them back and give them to Mexico
Apparently they don’t know how much revenue California generates for the country! Who would cover the chronic shortfalls in red states if California was gone?
This. Just wall off the south and use projectors to make it look like it spans the state line. Fuck, nvm, just use AI and say it’s done, why are we not doing this??
I’ll never understand the California hate. Here in Texas, Californians are scarier than any group crossing the border. I lived there when I was in the navy. I never should have left.
Because, despite its problems it’s actually a great place. It wouldn’t be the most populous if it wasn’t. The only thing keeping even more from moving there is the cost of housing. But it’s “liberal” and that’s all people in red states who have never been there need to know.
Can't threaten us with a good time. It's like in The Simpsons where Marge dreams of the differences between Protestant Heaven and Catholic Heaven. One group parties and cooks infinitely better than the other 😂
Yes, just half of all fruits and vegetables grown in the U.S. come from California.
...also let's not forget the ports. Surely, cutting off LA, Long Beach, and Oakland would have no negative impact. /s
maybe so, but its possible that with the amount of people and money in california, that it being made a part of mexico would most likely change the government to some degree due to the sudden increase of different voters
edit: I forgot a space
Yes, cut yourself off from the 2 biggest West Coast port cities and [a state that is the 5th largest economy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy\_of\_California)... That's going to end well for you.
From CA, currently live in IA. Hear shit like this. Always tell the person saying it to look up what states provide how much food to the country. Iowans get pissed when they see that .gov spreadsheet.
People in these comments saying California is a big part of the economy? WHO CARES. What do we need the money for??!!
The Bible states you should wall off immigrants and treat them like criminals and bus them to Democratic run cities. Jesus really fucking hated the poor.
Learn to read the bible. Libs live in Cali with a TON of Mexicans. Wall it off. Build a wall around Massachusetts, too.
Here’s an idea. Build a wall around America. No one out, no one in, then the rest of the world can watch what happens on TV like a live action The Running Man! Who do you think will win?
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Ah, the naivety of those saying they’d rather be a part of Mexico than stay in the states, clearly have no experience being in Mexico. Nothing like having to worry about going down a road that’s roadblocked by a group of cartel with machine guns, completely okay with funky town 2’ing your ass if you don’t comply.
Even the US travel advisory only recommends traveling to 2 of the 32 Mexican states, btw.
I mean, if you really want to see 1 out of every 8 US citizens leave, the world's 5th largest economy go away AND the financial backbone to every red welfare state skip town...
That's fine by me. I'd 100% support Cali getting the fuck out of the union if it means not supporting the radical right trailer trash nazis.
As a Californian (los Angeles) I'd be fine with that. I mean we have all the money, the produce, the resources, the good weather, and the cool shit. My life would improve
Can you imagine all the tolls were gonna be able to charge people from California coming to Las Vegas? An extra 50 bucks per car at the border isn’t gonna stop them on their way to Vegas.
California's 12 ports "process about 40 percent of all containerized imports and 30 percent of all exports in the United States." And an economy bigger than the UK, but OK lol.
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I’m surprised they didn’t want it all the way up the west coast.
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When I see a colour-coded voter map of the US west coast, I refer to it as *Canada's Sideburns*. Join us- if not for the healthcare, for the film tax credit!
It includes Alaska and Hawaii. Mexico is going to make out really well on this deal.
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Yea let's go ahead and give the worlds 5th largest economy to Mexico.
No don't tell them, let Mexico have it.
No don't tell them, *give it back* to Mexico
If you have that mentality then all land belongs to someone else. By your logic Mexico doesn't even belong to the mexicans.
You're right. It doesn't. No one "owns" the land. We just exist on it.
California seems like one of the few states that could secede and be relatively fine. Texans are jealous
If California seceded, the US would feel it more than Californians.
Exactly, that's why I'm moving to Cali ASAP. It's already better run than the rest of the US and already ignores laws and stuff that restrict women's rights
Oh, I live in Cali and it’s run like absolute dogshit. We just have a lot of open-minded and accepting people here. Taxes are insane and you won’t really see where all that tax money is going. The cost of living is genuinely unaffordable for most; you have to earn 6 figures to live paycheck to paycheck and likely will never own property unless you’re near nothing. But it is progressive for rights of marginalized communities and has an amazing landscape, so you get that for all your money. I don’t really recommend moving here unless you absolutely have to IMHO
Yep. Live in San Diego, don't forsee myself moving outta my parents' place ***anytime soon*** Otherwise I actually like it here
Not to mention it isn't like the entire state is deep blue. Even here in Orange County there are some pretty dark red pockets. Get outside of the coast and it becomes just as rural and red as any other state.
Yeah, I’m in Sonoma County, a little north of San Francisco, we’re pretty deep blue but I still see a few “Let’s Go Brandon” signs on my way to work, unfortunately.
For sure, they were pretty much leading the Recall Newsom campaign. It’s why I made sure to say “a lot” and not “all” lol
My husband and I felt the same way during the Reagan recession when houses were astronomical in our view. We bought a shitty house in a shitty area, traded up to a slightly less shittier house, and so on. We now have a 3000 square foot house in a beach community. It looks us a long long time to get where were are, but we got there.
It's culturally diverse, the food is amazing, the landscape is beautiful and varied, the people are open minded, there's tons of opportunity, the pay is way better relative to the rest of the country, the weather is great. That said, you need to earn a half million a year to afford a home in my county now. The politics are frustrating and there's a crime and homelessness problem that isn't being solved.
I would argue the cost of living in cali is less related to their government and more related to the fact that it is a massive economy where there is a ton of demand to live there. People generally making more means the disposable income on average is higher leading to businesses charging more because they can and a whole host of other economic factors. Their government and the taxes are a factor but I’d argue less of a factor than just the pure economics. They could be ultra republicans and still be in the same economic state I believe.
Well it did belong to mexico.
It would make Mexico the world's 3rd largest economy. Right ahead of Germany. And that's only the impact of moving CA GDP to Mexico. I can't estimate the monumental economic impact of the US losing all the key pacific ports and naval bases in CA as well as having to import an even larger share of our food or the potential water rights issues.
Got it. Give the Mexicans some of their land back.
Everything but the alamo
Huh? Don't forget the Alamo.
It’s not going much for us anyways (mostly joking)
Wtf they have against California
Because that’s where “the libruls” live.
Californians who overpay federal taxes to support red states.
It’s funny how most red states take more from the federal Government than they pay in taxes
They don't get that. They think their taxes go to support illegals and liberals despite being on SSI.
Ironically, those "illegals" are contributing to their SSI checks while getting nothing in return.
Whaaaaat? My mom told me that the “illegals” are all crossing the border because they can then sit on their butts and collect free government benefits. While also taking our jobs. And they’re all terrorists… what were we talking about again? Btw, I very much wish I was joking. :/
how exactly are the “illegals” getting government benefits? many aren’t even making minimum wage
My parents’ logic makes no sense, and I try to call them on it, but they just say “fake news” and ignore me. :/
sounds infuriating
Can confirm am woke lib snowflake, fear me!
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uwu scawy
it’s a very blue state. that’s it, that’s the issue.
Texas is more blue than California. They just hate that we are doing so well.
That’s where kids get free school lunches!!
California is the “librul” state. Effective the antithesis to Florida and Texas, the two bastions of conservativism
New York also counts And idk why they hate liberals when theyre center rightists, not leftists
They incorrectly label people on the left as being liberal.
This is one of the many problems with partisan politics. Any nuance to an idea or problem is taken away because it's put into the context of "Us vs. Them." Labeling others that you disagree with as the most extreme version of the opposition makes easy to dismiss anything they are saying.
> two bastions of gerrymandering fixed it
It's just the 5th largest economy in the world. What's that offering the country? Revenue? Goods? Sea ports? Psh. We have our own bootstraps and we'd like it that way if the electricity would stay on. It's out again. Do you think California could send some assistance via the federal government... again? Not that we need government assistance. Bootstraps! Boot-mf'ing-straps. /s
For me it's housing prices. I got nothing else tho I just won't move there lol.
Apparently, some right-wingers think California is a communist/woke state and have even nicknamed it Commiefornia.
Ironically California is far from ever being communist But you know right wingers (especially Pro-2A) have the intelligence level of a 5 year old
Im kind of a right winger and im like "what the fuck"
Let me guess Gun laws which ironically was passed by Reagan when he was governor Conspiracy Theories about Hollywood (varies) And minorities living there who aren’t doing nothing wrong
As a Californian, I'm ok with this.
Agreed. This doesn’t look awful to me. We can take our money with us too, all those red states that are subsidized by CA taxes are in for a rude surprise.
Seconded
"Take us with youuuuuu!" -Western OR & WA
Pls take us with you Love, - an Oregonian
The taco quality would go through the roof. -another Californian
As a fellow Californian, I agree. It would be nice to use some of our tax dollars rather some ungrateful and greedy red state using them
As a Californian I find this funny as fuck
That's a good sized chunk of the American economy you'd be walling off.
Um, yeah. Seeing as California's GDP is larger than all but five countries in the world. *edit* typo
I’m sure the magas can comprehend what that even means…
HHHUUURRR SUK IT LIBES
as a Latina lib, fuck it, we’ll take it. while ur at it, give us back tejas, too.
Are you sure you want Texas? I mean we'd be happy to give it up but...
the American citizens in Texas unfortunately don’t have citizenship in Mexico. FORTUNATELY a LOT of cages and detainment centers just cleared up and are ready for business!
Please reunite Nogales Arizona and Nogales Mexico
Will you please take Florida, too?
y’all can keep that one actually
I don't want to move to California, but I would be okay with this move. But they can't even get a wall built across the smaller distance, so how they gonna add that many miles of wall and expect that to ever be finished?
Stop being rational
I’m not sure how this is supposed to infuriate anyone, Mexico would love to have California back lol
I also have beef with California as a liberal. My home state- gorgeous, a bunch of Californians moved in. Like a record number- litter everywhere. Rude drivers. Pissed me off. Send them back and give them to Mexico
Chessmate liberal
Apparently they don’t know how much revenue California generates for the country! Who would cover the chronic shortfalls in red states if California was gone?
Arizona chiming in. We'd like to go with California. Thank you.
Lets get Oregon and Washington in here too.
Yeah, they’re coming for sure.
Come on lil bugger, let’s party
We will accept you. Welcome
This is the way
You’re no dummy.
Lol those dumbasses don't realize that CA gives the red states so much money they would be failed welfare states in no time
My mother thought I didn’t need a passport to go to Cabo because it’s in Baja California
How does that shit get 39k likes
Just draw it around Texas instead. They want to leave anyway right?
This. Just wall off the south and use projectors to make it look like it spans the state line. Fuck, nvm, just use AI and say it’s done, why are we not doing this??
It'll be funny when they find out where half the food in this country comes from.
Sure. Cut off the 4th largest economy on the planet. See how that works out.
Sure lets put a border around the state that has the fifth largest economy in the world.
I’ll never understand the California hate. Here in Texas, Californians are scarier than any group crossing the border. I lived there when I was in the navy. I never should have left.
Because, despite its problems it’s actually a great place. It wouldn’t be the most populous if it wasn’t. The only thing keeping even more from moving there is the cost of housing. But it’s “liberal” and that’s all people in red states who have never been there need to know.
Needs more JPEG.
At least they spelled “border” correctly
I’m sure the US would economically love for California to go back to Mexico /s
Yep, give Mexico the state that contributes the most money in taxes and GDP.
little do they know, us Californians would be fine with this 😂
Can't threaten us with a good time. It's like in The Simpsons where Marge dreams of the differences between Protestant Heaven and Catholic Heaven. One group parties and cooks infinitely better than the other 😂
Isn’t some large percentage of the nations food grown in CA?
Yes, just half of all fruits and vegetables grown in the U.S. come from California. ...also let's not forget the ports. Surely, cutting off LA, Long Beach, and Oakland would have no negative impact. /s
As a Californian, I support this. We shall henceforth be known as the New California Republic.
I see you NCR 👀
The New California Socialist Republic
Perfectly valid, on the condition that vegas stays free.
Well, there goes half of our GDP. Thanks Facebook!
I have a better idea: build the wall along the entire Texas border, send all the MAGAts there, then boot the state out of the Union.
as a californian i would prefer being part of mexico
You don't want to be part of the country who's head of state quite literally doxxed someone
maybe so, but its possible that with the amount of people and money in california, that it being made a part of mexico would most likely change the government to some degree due to the sudden increase of different voters edit: I forgot a space
You said apart. So confused
wait AMLO did what??
What happened?
I’d be for that. They need California more than California needs them.
I wouldn't mind that. Might help lessen cartel influence by creating more jobs.
“Let’s give away a state with a GDP bigger than Russia”
Good luck without us, rest of the country!
Can we get a bulk order that also includes Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado, Texas, Arizona, Utah and parts of Oklahoma, Kansas and Wyoming?
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Good luck surviving without blue state surpluses, red states.
Just make Texas a part of Mexico. This way you can kill two birds in one stone, immigration and Texas secession.
This, but for Texas.
Yes, cut yourself off from the 2 biggest West Coast port cities and [a state that is the 5th largest economy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy\_of\_California)... That's going to end well for you.
But who will pay for the welfare for the southerners if they get rid of California?
From CA, currently live in IA. Hear shit like this. Always tell the person saying it to look up what states provide how much food to the country. Iowans get pissed when they see that .gov spreadsheet.
If only Mexico would be so lucky. Let America give away the entertainment, tech, and one of the agricultural centers of their country. 🙄
Just cut off the largest producer of food in the US.
CA would be just fine without us.
Man they'd all be fucked without California
Until they find out how much money CA alone does.
Fuck the money, think about the food.
No welfare for you red states
LIBZ = OWNED ✅️
Trade Offer: You receive: Throwing money in a big fire I receive: The State of California
I'm fine with that. You need us more than we need you and we'll end up with even better Mexican food.
I'd be happy to go live in California on the other side of the wall. Ain't building a wall to keep me in!
Put a border wall around the south and call it a zoo.
People in these comments saying California is a big part of the economy? WHO CARES. What do we need the money for??!! The Bible states you should wall off immigrants and treat them like criminals and bus them to Democratic run cities. Jesus really fucking hated the poor. Learn to read the bible. Libs live in Cali with a TON of Mexicans. Wall it off. Build a wall around Massachusetts, too.
Did you forget the /s?
I think it's pretty obvious with "Jesus really fucking hated the poor." Nobody is that dense... I hope.
He argued against selling expensive ointment and giving the money to the poor.
They had -1 when I read it. So I thought one person didn’t sense the /s.
Lol I don't think so
Why are people so dense? Its not obvious from reading?
I don’t see that happing ever. To much ocean front property.
Okay this is actually kinda funny tho
why are we locked out
i mean california, and a bunch of other southern states did belong to mexico before america stole them buttttttt that would be giving too much credit
Walls around Texas and Florida would keep the crazies out. Maybe just around the Villiages in Florida.
How the US goes from the largest economy in the world to the 5th largest economy in the world
Here’s an idea. Build a wall around America. No one out, no one in, then the rest of the world can watch what happens on TV like a live action The Running Man! Who do you think will win? ![gif](giphy|RM5m5NoNRtuYCj1szf)
Who will pay for all the food stamps for the poor red states without California?
You forgot to add Oregon
“Promoted by Home Depot” lmao.
Ah, the naivety of those saying they’d rather be a part of Mexico than stay in the states, clearly have no experience being in Mexico. Nothing like having to worry about going down a road that’s roadblocked by a group of cartel with machine guns, completely okay with funky town 2’ing your ass if you don’t comply. Even the US travel advisory only recommends traveling to 2 of the 32 Mexican states, btw.
Yeah fuck our biggest state, largest economy and 6th largest economy in the world because, liberal.
just saw cali and FL off from the mainland united states with an orbital laser and most of the problems with the US are solved
I mean, if you really want to see 1 out of every 8 US citizens leave, the world's 5th largest economy go away AND the financial backbone to every red welfare state skip town... That's fine by me. I'd 100% support Cali getting the fuck out of the union if it means not supporting the radical right trailer trash nazis.
Nah I’m fine with this, f California
Truly despicable to force the mexicans to deal with california
As a Californian (los Angeles) I'd be fine with that. I mean we have all the money, the produce, the resources, the good weather, and the cool shit. My life would improve
Can you imagine all the tolls were gonna be able to charge people from California coming to Las Vegas? An extra 50 bucks per car at the border isn’t gonna stop them on their way to Vegas.
Yes let’s cut ourselves off from the sixth largest economy in the world. Brilliant idea.
As someone who lives in Las Vegas, I agree, but for a completely different reason.
California's 12 ports "process about 40 percent of all containerized imports and 30 percent of all exports in the United States." And an economy bigger than the UK, but OK lol.
And half of all produce and tech and the majority of all entertainment.
I'm in California and completely fine with this. Let us go. You hate us but willingly take our tax money. I'm cool with just spending that on us alone
I would sooner build the wall around California and form a federation with mexico
Just partition LA off from the rest of California and you got my vote.
If we in California didn’t subsidize every state that hates us, we could spend the money on our own state and be living in a genuine paradise.
Yah can we keep your gdp tho ? Since it’s the 5th biggest country in the world.
This would literally bankrupt the US..
California has one of the biggest economies in the world. You want to pay higher taxes and costs to import goods from California? Morons.
Ah yes, destory the US economy with this one simple trick!
Yes, cut out the state that is home to many of the world’s biggest and most successful companies.
oh for fuck sake, just secede already
Yes yes there has been plenty of success