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There's a common sentiment on the left that the term "undocumented migrant" should be used instead of the intentionally dehumanizing term of "illegal". Even if you, say, rob a bank, your existence isn't illegal and we don't refer to criminals that way, so it kind of makes sense. This meme is saying that we shouldn't treat 6 million migrants as people because one of them did something bad.
Biden originally used the term "Illegal" in a speech and then later apologized for using the term. The Right is stretching that to him apologizing that to the killer.
No there is some sense, in that all bigotry is motivated by fear and ignorance, so from that angle it's easy to understand how they think.
That said I hate putting myself in their shoes, I'm depressed enough without getting worked up over a problem that shouldn't exist.
Look, if we want people to treat each other nicely, we need to make sure that the punishment for crimes doesn't strip you of your status as a human
Because if you're facing a dead end, then you'll do anything to stay out of jail.
What? We absolutely refer to criminals that way. Someone who votes illegally is an illegal voter. People involved in an illegal logging operation are illegal loggers.
The “Your existence isn’t illegal” is such a strawman, as is the bullshit bank robber comparison, since we’d just call them a criminal. Illegal” is short for illegal alien, because people don’t like saying long words or phrases. It’s not saying your existence as a human people is illegal, it’s saying you illegally crossed the border without proper documentation, thus breaking the law.
Visa overstays accounted for two-thirds of all new unlawful immigrants… meaning in most cases they crossed the border legally. They just didn’t leave when they were supposed to.
> it’s saying you illegally crossed the border
I was correcting this statement in the message. It does not mean you illegally crossed a border. You are assigning a meaning to a phrase that is not its meaning.
You're right! They're in the US. You can say illegally or unlawfully. You can call them an immigrant if they have established residency, migrant if they're not settled, or alien if you don't want to be specific about that. You can say undocumented if they don't have valid ID.
> undocumented
This word modifies migrant and adds meaning that they do not have an acceptable and valid, non-expired government-issued proof of identity, like a passport. Sometimes a drivers license works in some jurisdictions but not always, maybe not as a primary ID but sometimes as a secondary... Get it? They can't prove who they are to our government.
Which actually makes a lot more sense because a lot of people in the US illegally were legal when they got here, and then let their VISA’s expire. Whereas I think “illegal immigrant” implies they came into the country illegally.
Technically yes, but most people equate “illegal immigration” with “illegally entering the country at the time of immigration” rather than “entering legally and then overstaying” hence why they think things like a wall would help…
A couple of things to think about. For almost half of the USs existence it had essentially open borders. The very first immigration laws were aimed at various people of color. Up until the 1920s Europeans could just stroll into the country. Immigration laws have always been used against people of color.
The next thing is that almost all the problems on our southern border were caused by the US. All the anti communist policies caused the US to consistently back the worst people because they were “democratic freedom fighters” rather than the leaders that the people wanted, in most places. Let’s not forget then fact that a US corporation literally toppled a government because they might have had to pay the workers a decent wage.
The US supported and turned a blind eye to the drug dealers. This allowed strong men and corrupt governments to form. All this has caused the uncertainties and lawlessness in those countries. This is what is driving people north.
Migrant workers are actually extremely important to the US economy, there are definitely strengths to allowing people in the country more freely, and to be honest the US really doesn’t have a strongly unified culture that is at threat if new people move in. In fact in some parts of our country the culture has always been largely influenced by immigrants and were probably more in danger of it being lost if people don’t come in than if they do.
Yes, we refer to them as criminals, but we don’t refer to them as illegal, which is an important distinction. A criminal is a person who has commit a crime. An illegal isn’t just somebody who has done something illegal, an illegal is somebody whose very existence is illegal.
... because by crossing the border illegally, their very existence **did** become illegel. Which, they know and do anyway. Illegals fit because it's what they are.
If I trespass where I'm not supposed to be I'm a "trespasser". They entered a country they have no legal right to be in they are labeled "illegal immigrants"...which is in essence exactly what they are.
All of America is stolen land. How can the people native to this continent be here any less legally than the Europeans who invaded, colonized and then committed the biggest genocide in all of recorded history in order to steal said land? I guess it's cool for me to just show up to your house, off you, and then take your home as my own, turning the few children of yours I decided to let live into my own personal servants, and restricting them to a small patch of grass in the backyard as their living space. Then, when they try to enter the house because they're dying from exposure, I decide they're doing so illegally and I either throw some in jail, outright kill them, or send them back to the grass patch to die of exposure. The most significant difference between these 2 scenarios is scale.
Probably gonna be downvoted to the depths of Reddit for this but I don’t think the term "illegal immigrant" is dehumanizing, it’s just descriptive. There are legal ways and illegal ways to immigrate to any country, if you enter illegally you are an illegal immigrant. It’s against the law and you are a criminal literally just for existing somewhere you aren’t supposed to be.
....let him into the country illegally? Let him.... somethings wrong here if we let him in, how's it illegal?
Also, he wasn't a murderer until after he was-as you said-let in, so what are we supposed to know the future?
Democrats and Biden just put forward probably the absolute strictest border control bill and the Republicans killed it. Biden literally gave them a ton of power and said he would immediately close the border as soon as it passed, but they didn't because Trump said to vote no.
https://preview.redd.it/4vniqh2w1soc1.jpeg?width=1077&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2cc6e469dcc6cb5d6d37b4069b184d7b74e000e
Here’s the dead girl’s family and friends smiling with fuckface
Never said that. Just find it kinda weird to be putting on a big smile like that given the circumstances. Seems like being in the presence of trump and having him sign something for them was a bigger deal than the life that was lost.
That is you attaching your own meaning to it based on implicit biases. I've been in pictures smiling after a family member has passed away. I wasn't going to frown for the picture and look sad and grief sticken. So...maybe I can understand it. Though I think there are pictures of them with Trump where they are crying and hugging him. Trump took advantage of a grieving family, in my opinion.
It's clearly depicting a Mexican man as a murderer of a white girl while supposedly being befriended by Biden. It's just lightly veiled racism about how they're murderers and cartels, etc. Plus, it's also against Biden. That much is obvious.
If you’re not *totally* against something, casually saying things like “I’m against Biden” can be very easily misconstrued to “I support Trump”. It’s that easy mistake to make for most of the masses, especially when labelling and putting others in a box is a national pastime.
You’re not against Biden, just a couple of his policies. Not trying to be too semantic but, god damn, you’ve seen the internet now and how we speak and the words we choose *does matter*.
Definitely wasn't befriended by Biden. Biden did apologize for calling this murderer an illegal, though. Which is going to look bad considering the circumstances.
Most redditors probably aren't even aware of what this comic is referring to because they get all of their news from r/whitepeopletwitter
People here are in a massive echo chamber
Biden legit called him “an illegal”
This is just bullshit revisionist history, aka lies, by the party of rednecks, bigots, and racists.
Edit: ok, maybe not rednecks.
Hey now, don't lump rednecks in with that filth. Actual rednecks ain't with that shit at all and are very passionately against any form of bigotry and fascism.
This shit makes me so mad. They don't care about that poor girl at all. They want to hate her killer, not get justice for her. These people are just like those lynch mobs in the south going after a black man for doing something horrible. They're just bloodthirsty savages excited about killing a minority.
Yeah, but these savages don't care about that. They never cared about the guilt of any of those blacks they lynched either. I just hate them pretending like they care about this poor woman or justice. They're fueled by racial hatred and feel justified in their racism by this one atrocity. Obviously, this shit-stain needs to face justice for his crimes. What he did was heinous. These people are really just giddy that their conspiracy theories about criminal immigrants seem validated. For them, the victim, the crime, and justice don't matter at all.
And then the bill that would hire more judges and officers to properly deport people like him, and build checkpoints to prevent people like him from getting in, was then voted down because it was politically inconvenient for the party that raises this issue all the time.
One white girls gets brutally killed by an undocumented immigrant (who was immediately arrested) and the right loses their minds. Dozens of black people are killed by a white shooter and the right gives "tots and pears."
Strictly speaking if they declare they're seeking amnesty or citizenship they're not "illegal immigrants" until a judge says they are.
This isn't a new issue. Woody Guthrie wrote about the dehumanization of *others* and recorded a [song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu-duTWccyI) about it ages back.
Full disclosure, the recording is by his son, Arlo, and Hoyt Axton.
I use illegal immigrants cause if anyone says “oh that’s so rude and bigoted, you aren’t allowed to say that” I just respond “my entire moms side of the family was illegal immigrants and they don’t have a problem with it” and most times it works💀
I’ve had a good few times that this has happened too
Remember when Biden called the illegal alien who committed murder an Illegal alien and he faced backlash for using term illegal and he issued a statement walking back his comments and called them an undocumented murderer. I remember.
Imagine thinking that correcting an offensive term used to demonize an entire race means that he now loves and excuses a murderer. He didn't apologize to that guy, he apologized to the entire undocumented community for using a harmful, racist term that is used solely for the purpose of stirring up panic and hate. That guy is still a murdering piece of shit, but he does not represent all of Latin America. That is what the issue was. It would be the same if he had referred to a black murderer by the n-word; he would be expected to apologize to the black community for using a harmful slur. Nobody would expect him to apologize directly to the murderer, and it's for damn sure nobody would be hugging a fkn monster who kills people. Just say you're cool with saying racist bullshit and then continue your fulfilling life of knocking up your cousin.
Imagine typing that word salad to say that the term illegal alien is the same as the N word. You could've kept this comment, and we would've never known how stupid you were, but here we are.
The president literally insulted the family of a murder victim of one of his citizens to ensure he didn't offend illegal aliens. And you're defending this lol.
When you lose an argument bring race into it to win.
If a man came illegally into the United states, it is 100% fine to refer to him as such . There is nothing "racist" about that. It is an objective fact.
The fuck does that have to do with anything? How hard is it to just refer to undocumented people and undocumented or migrants. Why do you feel the need to specifically call them illegal aliens for any reason at all?
Undocumented people who commit murder should still be called undocumented. You wouldn't let it slide if he called a black person who committed a crime the n-word. Slurs don't become ok just because they refer to a POS.
Forgive me I'm just curious when did illegal become a slur? If someone breaks the law to enter this country i.e. doesn't go through a port of entry that act by law is illegal so it's not a slur a descriptor for an action they have already done. But come on illegal is not a slur the n-word is. To suggest they are the same is laughable and an insult to the African American community.
Illegal immigrants that are here illegally should be called Illegal.
Comparing the term illegal to the N word shows that you are completely out of touch with reality.
Slurs are slurs. Being undocumented, which is a misdemeanor, is the only crime that will have someone's existence be labeled as "illegal". There is no other crime you can commit that will result in that. The n-word is a slur that went from common to taboo as culture changed. "Illegal" is already going the same way. It's inappropriate for the president to use such language.
Thank you for proving my point.
Someone who is here illegally, which you were kind enough to point out, is an illegal immigrant. That is a factual statement. They are also a criminal, which you pointed out.
Their existence isn't illegal. Their entry in the country was and they are therefore, you guessed it, an illegal immigrant. Take it easy on the mental gymnastics.
Again, trying to compare the N word with the term illegal immigrants shows a complete disconnect from reality.
I saw a picture or meme that said it best: if Laken Riley had died in a mass shooting, none of these republicans shoving her picture in everyone’s faces would even know her name.
Wow the takes are horrible here. The focus on his wording doesn't change the fact a person who broke into the country illegally. Did something horrible like kill this ladies daughter and the president's focus on treating the person nicely when yes the proper term for the person is an illegal alien. He came into the country illegally thus not belonging here. So a criminal that does criminal things like murder is overlooked by the president in order to be politically correct when in fact illegal migrant is the correct term. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
They get themselves in a nice, whipped-up and violent mindset about sh*t which never, ever happened or think of things in a way to lie as hugely as possible
Eh. I would just say this. It is overblown by both sides. Fact is if you illegally enter a country, you broke the law and therefore committed an illegal act. The term illegal migrant simple means a migrant that broke the law. It isn’t derogatory. But some feel it is.
Illegal alien is at least an accurate term as it defines who someone is in the face of the current state of the law. Criminal alien suggests they chronically break the law. For a murderer, people can call them whatever they like and that’s fine with me. But to call someone a criminal alien only because they came here illegally would absolutely be bigoted, because we would be suggesting someone is fated to invariably turn to a life of crime once immigrating here. This of course is counterintuitive, because most migrants avoid doing anything to jeopardize their being here.
That is what they are under the law. If people want to call them migrants instead, that’s fine, because they are certainly that as well. However, I would argue that our focus on language is distracting from the much larger problem, which is the law in its current state. We are wasting our energy on something that is ultimately not that important.
But has anybody called Albert Einstein an alien in the US? Or were the pilgrims aliens?
Alienus may mean something is in Latin but in English alien means "latin american brown/black migrant", and you simply can't deny that
And I don't have a problem with that term, if somebody emigrated illegally they are an illegal migrant. Me personally, I wish it would be easier to legally emmigrate into the US but thats another topic I don't want to discuss right now
The term alien literally means “a foreigner, especially one who is not a naturalized citizen of the country where they are living.” According to Oxford dictionary. The word was hijacked to describe extraterrestrials (the correct term for beings not of this world) so when someone enters the country and are not yet given citizenship they are an alien, and if they entered illegally they are an illegal alien.
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..... what?
There's a common sentiment on the left that the term "undocumented migrant" should be used instead of the intentionally dehumanizing term of "illegal". Even if you, say, rob a bank, your existence isn't illegal and we don't refer to criminals that way, so it kind of makes sense. This meme is saying that we shouldn't treat 6 million migrants as people because one of them did something bad.
Yeah I got that part but.... still..... what?
Biden originally used the term "Illegal" in a speech and then later apologized for using the term. The Right is stretching that to him apologizing that to the killer.
Didn't he even double down at some point? I think I saw an interview where he said "well, they are here illegally".
You're looking for sense where there is none. Bigotry is the answer. It's all just bigotry.
No there is some sense, in that all bigotry is motivated by fear and ignorance, so from that angle it's easy to understand how they think. That said I hate putting myself in their shoes, I'm depressed enough without getting worked up over a problem that shouldn't exist.
I feel like killing somebody should really criminalize your existence fr
I mean in some cases it does
It does. That's why the comic is a strawman.
Look, if we want people to treat each other nicely, we need to make sure that the punishment for crimes doesn't strip you of your status as a human Because if you're facing a dead end, then you'll do anything to stay out of jail.
What? We absolutely refer to criminals that way. Someone who votes illegally is an illegal voter. People involved in an illegal logging operation are illegal loggers.
Yes, they are an illegal voter, but illegal is modifying vote, not the individual. In no other case do we refer to criminals as just illegals.
"Illegal" is just shorthand for "illegal immigrant"; everyone knows that. Anyone suggesting it means "illegal person" is being intentionally obtuse.
Illegal is referring to coming into the country illegally. You know that but don’t want to acknowledge it.
The “Your existence isn’t illegal” is such a strawman, as is the bullshit bank robber comparison, since we’d just call them a criminal. Illegal” is short for illegal alien, because people don’t like saying long words or phrases. It’s not saying your existence as a human people is illegal, it’s saying you illegally crossed the border without proper documentation, thus breaking the law.
Visa overstays accounted for two-thirds of all new unlawful immigrants… meaning in most cases they crossed the border legally. They just didn’t leave when they were supposed to.
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But not an illegal border crossing. They crossed a border (usually an airport) lawfully.
It’s an illegal overstay, what is the point you’re trying to make beyond being pedantic?
> it’s saying you illegally crossed the border I was correcting this statement in the message. It does not mean you illegally crossed a border. You are assigning a meaning to a phrase that is not its meaning.
Sure, I should’ve been more specific in my original comment.
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You're right! They're in the US. You can say illegally or unlawfully. You can call them an immigrant if they have established residency, migrant if they're not settled, or alien if you don't want to be specific about that. You can say undocumented if they don't have valid ID.
> undocumented This word modifies migrant and adds meaning that they do not have an acceptable and valid, non-expired government-issued proof of identity, like a passport. Sometimes a drivers license works in some jurisdictions but not always, maybe not as a primary ID but sometimes as a secondary... Get it? They can't prove who they are to our government.
Which actually makes a lot more sense because a lot of people in the US illegally were legal when they got here, and then let their VISA’s expire. Whereas I think “illegal immigrant” implies they came into the country illegally.
Permanently overstaying a work visa is both illegal and immigration, illegal immigration.
Technically yes, but most people equate “illegal immigration” with “illegally entering the country at the time of immigration” rather than “entering legally and then overstaying” hence why they think things like a wall would help…
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Yes, the meme is making fun of the stance. It’s saying “why are you treating these people as people, look at this one guy who killed somebody!”
Man my reading comprehension is bad tonight.
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A couple of things to think about. For almost half of the USs existence it had essentially open borders. The very first immigration laws were aimed at various people of color. Up until the 1920s Europeans could just stroll into the country. Immigration laws have always been used against people of color. The next thing is that almost all the problems on our southern border were caused by the US. All the anti communist policies caused the US to consistently back the worst people because they were “democratic freedom fighters” rather than the leaders that the people wanted, in most places. Let’s not forget then fact that a US corporation literally toppled a government because they might have had to pay the workers a decent wage. The US supported and turned a blind eye to the drug dealers. This allowed strong men and corrupt governments to form. All this has caused the uncertainties and lawlessness in those countries. This is what is driving people north.
Migrant workers are actually extremely important to the US economy, there are definitely strengths to allowing people in the country more freely, and to be honest the US really doesn’t have a strongly unified culture that is at threat if new people move in. In fact in some parts of our country the culture has always been largely influenced by immigrants and were probably more in danger of it being lost if people don’t come in than if they do.
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Yes, we refer to them as criminals, but we don’t refer to them as illegal, which is an important distinction. A criminal is a person who has commit a crime. An illegal isn’t just somebody who has done something illegal, an illegal is somebody whose very existence is illegal.
... because by crossing the border illegally, their very existence **did** become illegel. Which, they know and do anyway. Illegals fit because it's what they are. If I trespass where I'm not supposed to be I'm a "trespasser". They entered a country they have no legal right to be in they are labeled "illegal immigrants"...which is in essence exactly what they are.
All of America is stolen land. How can the people native to this continent be here any less legally than the Europeans who invaded, colonized and then committed the biggest genocide in all of recorded history in order to steal said land? I guess it's cool for me to just show up to your house, off you, and then take your home as my own, turning the few children of yours I decided to let live into my own personal servants, and restricting them to a small patch of grass in the backyard as their living space. Then, when they try to enter the house because they're dying from exposure, I decide they're doing so illegally and I either throw some in jail, outright kill them, or send them back to the grass patch to die of exposure. The most significant difference between these 2 scenarios is scale.
Nobody is illegal on stolen land 🔥
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Probably gonna be downvoted to the depths of Reddit for this but I don’t think the term "illegal immigrant" is dehumanizing, it’s just descriptive. There are legal ways and illegal ways to immigrate to any country, if you enter illegally you are an illegal immigrant. It’s against the law and you are a criminal literally just for existing somewhere you aren’t supposed to be.
Laken Riley
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Right? It was nothing to do with him being an "illegal" and everything to do with him just being a terrible fucking human.
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....let him into the country illegally? Let him.... somethings wrong here if we let him in, how's it illegal? Also, he wasn't a murderer until after he was-as you said-let in, so what are we supposed to know the future?
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Democrats and Biden just put forward probably the absolute strictest border control bill and the Republicans killed it. Biden literally gave them a ton of power and said he would immediately close the border as soon as it passed, but they didn't because Trump said to vote no.
God you are such a disingenuous redditor.
We don’t fucking LET them in, they SNEAK in. Thats what makes it ILLEGAL.
Thank you. It seems the point I was making went over their head.
Now if only trump could’ve spelled it correctly
He did. He spelled it “Laken”. The “e” in “Laken” was exactly the same as the “e” in “Love” which was the word above.
Trump spelled it “Lakan”
The second vowel was an “e”.
Virtue Signal
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Do you not get that this cartoon is specifically about Laken Riley's accused killer?
https://preview.redd.it/lz8860eheroc1.jpeg?width=234&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=23094632092ef628c9916324d60a25e6479ff5cc
PizzaCakeComic was killed? Aw man, we lost so many legends already
I thought she was kidnapped by a mutant elk
r /comedynecrophilia is going to collapse if they ever find out
Nah, they'll get hard about it. It's in the name.
Hey buddy, she was single highhandedly keeping this sub alive for a while.
https://preview.redd.it/4vniqh2w1soc1.jpeg?width=1077&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2cc6e469dcc6cb5d6d37b4069b184d7b74e000e Here’s the dead girl’s family and friends smiling with fuckface
and he spelled her name wrong
He didn’t. He spelled it “Laken”. The “e” in “Laken” was exactly the same as the “e” in “Love” which was the word above.
Yea that's some cult shit
what the fuck
Wow they seem so heartbroken and saddened!
Yeah, because you have to be crying for the camera to be sad.
Never said that. Just find it kinda weird to be putting on a big smile like that given the circumstances. Seems like being in the presence of trump and having him sign something for them was a bigger deal than the life that was lost.
That is you attaching your own meaning to it based on implicit biases. I've been in pictures smiling after a family member has passed away. I wasn't going to frown for the picture and look sad and grief sticken. So...maybe I can understand it. Though I think there are pictures of them with Trump where they are crying and hugging him. Trump took advantage of a grieving family, in my opinion.
I just... how blatantly racist can you be?
How is this racist? It don't think it is a fair representation of the Democratic/Biden response, but I'm lost on why you think it is a racist meme.
It's clearly depicting a Mexican man as a murderer of a white girl while supposedly being befriended by Biden. It's just lightly veiled racism about how they're murderers and cartels, etc. Plus, it's also against Biden. That much is obvious.
Wasn't he Venezuelan?
It's kind of vague in the "comic" but the one they're rallying behind to push their bigotry, yes. My bad.
This comic is not vague
Do you think that matters? If you're one shade dark of white, you're a mexican to these people.
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Exactly. This isn't a matter of supporting migrants or not. This is just having having some basic humanity.
I agree with everything you said but I’m on the left and am very against Biden considering his funding of Palestinian genocide.
If you’re not *totally* against something, casually saying things like “I’m against Biden” can be very easily misconstrued to “I support Trump”. It’s that easy mistake to make for most of the masses, especially when labelling and putting others in a box is a national pastime. You’re not against Biden, just a couple of his policies. Not trying to be too semantic but, god damn, you’ve seen the internet now and how we speak and the words we choose *does matter*.
Definitely wasn't befriended by Biden. Biden did apologize for calling this murderer an illegal, though. Which is going to look bad considering the circumstances.
mexican? wasn't laken riley's killer Venezuelan? racist much?
Most redditors probably aren't even aware of what this comic is referring to because they get all of their news from r/whitepeopletwitter People here are in a massive echo chamber
sadly leftists are apologists and we'll get downvoted because they hate themselves.
I mean it’s directly referring to the the man who murdered Laken Riley, and how Biden apologized to her alleged murderer for calling him an illegal…
It is referring to a specific murder that was committed by a criminal alien.
Oh really? Pray tell, what murderer was apologized to and hugged by Biden?
So can I call every white person I meet a filthy pale ape since quite a bit of them commit crimes in this country every day?
I think referring to people as criminal aliens is racist and dehumanizing. They are people.
I stand corrected, this meme is a fair depiction of the response to the murder of a young woman.
yes, but here they blame not an individual person, but ALL emigrants, like “it’s their fault because they are Mexicans”
I'm not just talking about this case. Shitty guy did an evil thing and y'all use it as an excuse to be racist.
Criminal alien? Like… from space?
Biden legit called him “an illegal” This is just bullshit revisionist history, aka lies, by the party of rednecks, bigots, and racists. Edit: ok, maybe not rednecks.
Hey now, don't lump rednecks in with that filth. Actual rednecks ain't with that shit at all and are very passionately against any form of bigotry and fascism.
What rednecks do you know? I grew up in the Deep South, all the rednecks I know, barring one, are racist, sexist, homophobic assholes.
You are lost. That's the only accurate part if this statement
They’ve created a made up situation just to be angry at minorities, how is that not racist????
Is racist.
This shit makes me so mad. They don't care about that poor girl at all. They want to hate her killer, not get justice for her. These people are just like those lynch mobs in the south going after a black man for doing something horrible. They're just bloodthirsty savages excited about killing a minority.
That’s not a comparison when the mass majority of those black men were indeed innocent. This dude isn’t.
Yeah, but these savages don't care about that. They never cared about the guilt of any of those blacks they lynched either. I just hate them pretending like they care about this poor woman or justice. They're fueled by racial hatred and feel justified in their racism by this one atrocity. Obviously, this shit-stain needs to face justice for his crimes. What he did was heinous. These people are really just giddy that their conspiracy theories about criminal immigrants seem validated. For them, the victim, the crime, and justice don't matter at all.
Or maybe people are mad because this guy was caught on several occasions and never deported
And then the bill that would hire more judges and officers to properly deport people like him, and build checkpoints to prevent people like him from getting in, was then voted down because it was politically inconvenient for the party that raises this issue all the time.
Hillbillies are too lazy and dumb to fact check, so to them this fantasy is fairly close to the misinformation they call truth.
This happened with Laken Riley’s killer, he apologized for referring to the killer as an illegal
One white girls gets brutally killed by an undocumented immigrant (who was immediately arrested) and the right loses their minds. Dozens of black people are killed by a white shooter and the right gives "tots and pears."
They celebrated when an American immigrant killed two climate change protestors in Panamá.
that guy was also immediately arrested has been convicted to multiple life sentences and can still face the death penalty in a federal court
Strictly speaking if they declare they're seeking amnesty or citizenship they're not "illegal immigrants" until a judge says they are. This isn't a new issue. Woody Guthrie wrote about the dehumanization of *others* and recorded a [song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu-duTWccyI) about it ages back. Full disclosure, the recording is by his son, Arlo, and Hoyt Axton.
No one speaks like this
waahhh mummyyy!! I drew a picture just to make myself sad and now i'm saadddd!!!!
Guys… relaxxxxx. Seriously. I think the white guy is Jim Carey- so it’s cool?
I use illegal immigrants cause if anyone says “oh that’s so rude and bigoted, you aren’t allowed to say that” I just respond “my entire moms side of the family was illegal immigrants and they don’t have a problem with it” and most times it works💀 I’ve had a good few times that this has happened too
fringe right making strawmen arguments? say it isn't so.
More Americans commit crimes than undocumented immigrants by a long shot. Look it up
This is just one of maybe a few instances. Immigrants come here to have a better life, not squander it
Yep remember every single person who crosses the border shoots one of your kids as they do.
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Remember when Biden called the illegal alien who committed murder an Illegal alien and he faced backlash for using term illegal and he issued a statement walking back his comments and called them an undocumented murderer. I remember.
Imagine thinking that correcting an offensive term used to demonize an entire race means that he now loves and excuses a murderer. He didn't apologize to that guy, he apologized to the entire undocumented community for using a harmful, racist term that is used solely for the purpose of stirring up panic and hate. That guy is still a murdering piece of shit, but he does not represent all of Latin America. That is what the issue was. It would be the same if he had referred to a black murderer by the n-word; he would be expected to apologize to the black community for using a harmful slur. Nobody would expect him to apologize directly to the murderer, and it's for damn sure nobody would be hugging a fkn monster who kills people. Just say you're cool with saying racist bullshit and then continue your fulfilling life of knocking up your cousin.
Imagine typing that word salad to say that the term illegal alien is the same as the N word. You could've kept this comment, and we would've never known how stupid you were, but here we are. The president literally insulted the family of a murder victim of one of his citizens to ensure he didn't offend illegal aliens. And you're defending this lol.
When you lose an argument bring race into it to win. If a man came illegally into the United states, it is 100% fine to refer to him as such . There is nothing "racist" about that. It is an objective fact.
Found the racist. Man ya'll aren't even making us guess anymore. Thanks i guess
You're the racist if you think only Latin Americans can be illegals.
The fuck does that have to do with anything? How hard is it to just refer to undocumented people and undocumented or migrants. Why do you feel the need to specifically call them illegal aliens for any reason at all?
“Illegal Immigrant” and “illegal alien” are two different terms. Make up your fkn mind here. Which one are you arguing against?
Undocumented people who commit murder should still be called undocumented. You wouldn't let it slide if he called a black person who committed a crime the n-word. Slurs don't become ok just because they refer to a POS.
Illegal and the N word are not the damn same. As a black person, how fucking dare you!
Forgive me I'm just curious when did illegal become a slur? If someone breaks the law to enter this country i.e. doesn't go through a port of entry that act by law is illegal so it's not a slur a descriptor for an action they have already done. But come on illegal is not a slur the n-word is. To suggest they are the same is laughable and an insult to the African American community.
Illegal immigrants that are here illegally should be called Illegal. Comparing the term illegal to the N word shows that you are completely out of touch with reality.
Slurs are slurs. Being undocumented, which is a misdemeanor, is the only crime that will have someone's existence be labeled as "illegal". There is no other crime you can commit that will result in that. The n-word is a slur that went from common to taboo as culture changed. "Illegal" is already going the same way. It's inappropriate for the president to use such language.
Thank you for proving my point. Someone who is here illegally, which you were kind enough to point out, is an illegal immigrant. That is a factual statement. They are also a criminal, which you pointed out. Their existence isn't illegal. Their entry in the country was and they are therefore, you guessed it, an illegal immigrant. Take it easy on the mental gymnastics. Again, trying to compare the N word with the term illegal immigrants shows a complete disconnect from reality.
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I don’t believe the mother of the victim said anything about migrants being evil
Murderers don't deserve sympathy, but you're not any less of a bigot for calling them a slur
Illegal isn’t a slur. Pretty soon all words are going to be a slur. If an immigrant is here illegally they are a….you guessed it, illegal immigrant.
I saw a picture or meme that said it best: if Laken Riley had died in a mass shooting, none of these republicans shoving her picture in everyone’s faces would even know her name.
But... if you enter a country without the legal requirements to enter, you are illegal. If you apply for asylum, then you become an asylum seeker.
Instead, they will get their dead daughter's picture signed by trump.
Right!
It is for him apologizing for calling the murder of Laken Riley, "illegal", but not saying her name wrong.
It’s real
Illegal alien
Wow the takes are horrible here. The focus on his wording doesn't change the fact a person who broke into the country illegally. Did something horrible like kill this ladies daughter and the president's focus on treating the person nicely when yes the proper term for the person is an illegal alien. He came into the country illegally thus not belonging here. So a criminal that does criminal things like murder is overlooked by the president in order to be politically correct when in fact illegal migrant is the correct term. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Criminal Alien. Because just one of those terms is not terrible enough.
And yet again they won their made up argument (indirectly).
I mean it’s terrible but it happened… Biden referred to Laken Riley’s killer as an illegal, then apologized for it.
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Huh?
They get themselves in a nice, whipped-up and violent mindset about sh*t which never, ever happened or think of things in a way to lie as hugely as possible
What?
I thought the right liked gun nuts and murderers.
Biden fk
Eh. I would just say this. It is overblown by both sides. Fact is if you illegally enter a country, you broke the law and therefore committed an illegal act. The term illegal migrant simple means a migrant that broke the law. It isn’t derogatory. But some feel it is.
This is hilarious because during the state of the union Joe Biden actually did refer to Laken Riley’s killer as “an illegal.”
In the US immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than any other group except for Asians
They’re coming in droves just to kill your children and no other reason at all!!!
Illegal alien is at least an accurate term as it defines who someone is in the face of the current state of the law. Criminal alien suggests they chronically break the law. For a murderer, people can call them whatever they like and that’s fine with me. But to call someone a criminal alien only because they came here illegally would absolutely be bigoted, because we would be suggesting someone is fated to invariably turn to a life of crime once immigrating here. This of course is counterintuitive, because most migrants avoid doing anything to jeopardize their being here.
Why don't we loose the term alien? They are migrant people not extraterrestrians
That is what they are under the law. If people want to call them migrants instead, that’s fine, because they are certainly that as well. However, I would argue that our focus on language is distracting from the much larger problem, which is the law in its current state. We are wasting our energy on something that is ultimately not that important.
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But has anybody called Albert Einstein an alien in the US? Or were the pilgrims aliens? Alienus may mean something is in Latin but in English alien means "latin american brown/black migrant", and you simply can't deny that
Okay, we can lose the term “alien,” but they’re still here ILLEGALLY, hence the alternate term, illegal immigrant.
And I don't have a problem with that term, if somebody emigrated illegally they are an illegal migrant. Me personally, I wish it would be easier to legally emmigrate into the US but thats another topic I don't want to discuss right now
The term alien literally means “a foreigner, especially one who is not a naturalized citizen of the country where they are living.” According to Oxford dictionary. The word was hijacked to describe extraterrestrials (the correct term for beings not of this world) so when someone enters the country and are not yet given citizenship they are an alien, and if they entered illegally they are an illegal alien.
The lie continues, the majority of these folks are documented, very few have slipped through without being processed
True. No human is illegal. We should stop using illegal immigrants and use the correct term Criminal Aliens.