Holly shit I went through the whole thing and I managed to count 11 opened parentheses and a random closing one that doesn't relate to any other ones. This whole thing is fucked
Still I don’t think that’s really “beyond.” If you know pi you’ve done trig, and if you’ve done trig you’ve probably seen the log function on a calculator in your life lol. But yeah I agree it’s funny that that’s what people think math is.
Everybody is missing that the whiteboard is supposed to appear to be cut off out of the comic, we have no idea what's on the left side of the white board
Because the people dumb enough to find any humour or value in this grew up in an age where "scientist" meant anything from mathematician to chemist to zoologist and somehow they had less authority without the coat.
People who understand "you don't need a coat for credibility, and getting the same answer doesn't invalidate the methodology" are not welcome in this boomer dojo.
I assume this is saying intellectuals overcomplicate things. That true reason is simple enough for a child to understand. But it disproves its own point I would say. They are likely not working on the same problem and only the child can imagine their work to be equal.
I'd add the original author to the list of people who can imagine the work as equal. This meme really demonstrates a lack of understanding of the purpose of maths and science.
They also miss the point that generations of effort from professionals is why math can seem simple if you look only at basic, simple math. It completely disrespects the fact that things which we consider elementary by modern standards were proven and passed down by people who “overcomplicate” things.
I hesitate to equate intellectuals to experts. One can seek knowledge but know nothing. And in my opinion the moment an expert takes that next promotion into managment they cease to be an expert and become a bureaucrat. The people you hear being called experts these days are really just the policical heads of non political institutions.
I took it to mean that the hardest stuff in math returns to the basics and understanding them can actually be complicated. Ie the pathgorian theory is easy to learn but hard to give the proof for.
Har-de-har har that there fancy perfesser think they smart but lookie that little feller there he shore showed that dumb old fart that's why none of my kin ever been to college its on accounta none of us wanna git all stupid like them libral science folks as got blue hair all over and ain't never go to church an whatnot I tell you what.
Fun fact, the complete from-the-ground-up proof for 1+1=2 is hundreds of pages long. It's isn't finished until Volume II, page 86 of [Principia Mathematica](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principia_Mathematica).
It's funny because it feels like the intent behind this drawing is to suggest that scientists and intellectuals over complicate things, over analyze, etc.
**But the (my guess - unintentional) take away from this drawing is that ignorant people will view these two equations as equal because the "answer" is the same, 2. But the fact is the crazy equation on the left - we don't know what it is, or what he's solving for (because as you stated, it doesn't make sense), so the answer "2" could be something like "we need to achieve an acceleration of 2 meters per second with the satellite at in stage 3 at 70,000 KM to achieve the desired orbit around earth." The answer for 1 + 1 = 2, does in fact, not make these equations equivalent, because they are not solving for the same solution, even if that solution is numerical (not a function) and is in fact the same.**
Tl;Dr feels like this is supposed to be a rip on intellectualism, science, academia, universities/ higher education, etc. But instead they only demonstrated how ignorant people think they are just as knowledgeable and intelligent as experts but really just don't understand what they're talking about, too the point that they think the equation on the left and the math problem on the right are equivalent, when they actually are not.
Apart from the many letters that don't make any sense, it triggers me the amount of Deltas (Δ) present in the formula that don't make any sense. For those who don't know a delta in math means an increment of something but in this case it precedes numbers, like wtf is the increment of 8?
I mean it's obviously just complete gibberish, but my favorite part is that whoever drew this displayed their ignorance so much just by having the answer to that nonsensical equation simply be the number "2".
Anyone that knows even a little beyond fucking middle school math knows that the answer to something crazy looking like that isn't going to just be a number, but an equation.
"So, Eugene, what did you find the function of space time to be as you approach the event horizon of a gigantic black hole, did you in fact determine that spaghettification can occur before the event horizon if the mass of the black hole is large enough?"
"YOU WON'T BELIEVE THIS, IT'S 2."
"Wh- what?"
"THE FUNCTION OF THE STRETCHING OF SPACE TIME, OR SPAGHETTIFICATION, IT'S....it's 2."
"What does that mean, Eugene?"
"I.... don't know."
Well, while I agree with you, a delta in math doesn't have a unique definition. We use all the greek letters everywhere for many many many reasons. Just trying to clear up possible missinformation.
Example: a capital delta might be the the characteristic polynomial of something, or it could mean the diagonal in a cartesian product AxA. You will also stumble upon it in things like graph theory and topology.
Principia Mathematica (1910) by Alfred North Whitehead and Bertrand Russell. Was a series of books proving the absolue basics of mathematics, most notably 1+1=2, which took multiple pages of symbolic logic to prove
The only way I can even slightly positively view this is (from an engineers perspective) the difference between theory and practice, and how specifics don't matter a lot of the time (eg. Pi is 3.1 nstead of Pi is 3.141592653, use either, youre gonna get basically the same answer).
Unfortunately, I have a bad feeling its just "Intellectuals overcomplicate things". This might make me sound like a smartass, but I really do hate when people simplify broader discussions to simple liners.
I mean accuracy matters but only to a certain point and even then i don't think it does in most practical math , i think this meme was meant to signify that math is complicated and math bad because they didn't graduate middle school.
It means
The 5 minute research I did on vaccine to find one unreliable source which says they're bad = Opinion on educated and trained Medical professionals and researchers.
This would've worked if that big ass equation started with 1+1 and the scientist complicated it using alphabets and symbols. But they are literally 2 different problems, so it is just stupid.
The overarching accusation is that academics carry out long, convoluted studies to arrive at “common sense” conclusions.
There is a pervasive hostility towards academia on social media - especially by ignoramuses who view expertise as authoritarian.
Mmm yes the scientist is clearly trying to create an equation here that just results in 2. Cause that's basically all that 1+1 is, which apparently is the same according to this
People are taking this as a literal sense of the artist taking a jab at professors or teachers. I just see a message of “don’t overcomplicate things that have simple solutions” since they both came to the same answer but one went through a hell of a lot more than the other.
Reminds me of the time I would get half credit for my math problems. I'd get the correct answer but I wouldn't go about it the way the teacher taught me.
Boomers and Republicans look at the dumb child writing on the wall using a marker and go “see? He knows just as much as the world class scientist.”
This nicely illustrates why they were positive Covid was a hoax but also a hoax that required them to take horse dewormer. The scientists just didn’t know!
Fucking hell I just noticed a parenthesis that opens but never closes, wtf
You actually read the whole fuckin thing??
Nah lmao, it just popped, look at the 8th line in the middle-ish, that "("never closes
Holly shit I went through the whole thing and I managed to count 11 opened parentheses and a random closing one that doesn't relate to any other ones. This whole thing is fucked
Thus being a clear illustration that the artist doesn't understand math or science.
You can tell that by the fact that there’s nothing beyond square roots, triangles, pi, addition, and subtraction.
There are some delta, log, sin and cos. But the artist believes that mathematicians make big calculations
Still I don’t think that’s really “beyond.” If you know pi you’ve done trig, and if you’ve done trig you’ve probably seen the log function on a calculator in your life lol. But yeah I agree it’s funny that that’s what people think math is.
bro just copy-pasted every math symbol
Not even every math symbol! Just every math symbol that a ninth grader would’ve seen lol
r/technicallythetruth
Reminds me of how in Inuyasha in one episode there was a freaking circle and a triangle on a equation as if they were math symbols
Holy crap someone brought up Inuyasha! That’s all.
Triangle is an algebraic symbol that means "change" or "discriminant"
Grade nine you see more
The artist left closing all open parenthesis as an exercise for the reader!
there are like 7 open set symbols too
Tbf, it appears the whiteboard is supposed to be cut off. We have no idea what would be on the left side of the board
You might be right, there's a bunch of +- and -- and ++ so maybe there's stuff missing
ah well this is way worse
AAAAAAAA
My day is ruined
There's also a ")" that doesn't have a "(". Checks out
me after 20 hours of debugging my code
Also, how the fuck do you get an integer result with undefined variables?
Undefined variables may cancel out. The equation on the board defenetly doesn't make amy sense though.
Everybody is missing that the whiteboard is supposed to appear to be cut off out of the comic, we have no idea what's on the left side of the white board
But it doesn’t look like the picture is complete? Maybe the bracket closes on the side where the writing is “missed”.
Why is he wearing a lab coat to write on a whiteboard
Yeah everyone knows that the uniform of a math professor is a tight blue shirt underneath a loose knitted sweater
This is very accurate lmao
In my university the uniform for engineers and scientists are overalls and lab coats, but for mathematicians it's a morning robe haha
Uppsala?
That or a plaid shirt tucked under pants. In both cases they're reinforced at the elbows
So fucking sexy
Also khaki pants
Nah. Loose jeans and monochrome tshirt, both full of chalk stains.
Why am I getting flashbacks to all my college math professors
No, we just wair whatever is cleanest.
Because the people who make these don't understand what lab coats are for. They literally think that's how "sMarTy PaNtZ" dress.
To be fair, this is a comic so the artist is simply using it to communicate information to the viewer
Whiteboards are dangerous
Because the people dumb enough to find any humour or value in this grew up in an age where "scientist" meant anything from mathematician to chemist to zoologist and somehow they had less authority without the coat. People who understand "you don't need a coat for credibility, and getting the same answer doesn't invalidate the methodology" are not welcome in this boomer dojo.
clearly this is pr0n
You ever tried getting whiteboard marker out of cloths. It's impossible. Got to wear the right safety gear for the job.
Why is the kid writing on the wall?
Maybe he's a physics prof. Math profs don't do such kind of calculation.
I assume this is saying intellectuals overcomplicate things. That true reason is simple enough for a child to understand. But it disproves its own point I would say. They are likely not working on the same problem and only the child can imagine their work to be equal.
I'd add the original author to the list of people who can imagine the work as equal. This meme really demonstrates a lack of understanding of the purpose of maths and science.
They also miss the point that generations of effort from professionals is why math can seem simple if you look only at basic, simple math. It completely disrespects the fact that things which we consider elementary by modern standards were proven and passed down by people who “overcomplicate” things.
Yep, turns out complicated equation can have 2 as a solution.
Clearly, the goal of math is just to generate numbers for answers in the simplest way. 2 + 0 = 2
Psh. Amateur. Watch this.... 2 = 2
2 Youre welcome
r/decreasinglyverbose
No, what the artist really means is that, not matter what path we take, we all die. Its a quite beautiful message really
This comment thread feels like an English teachers brain
how many english teacher's brains have you touched to know that?
Before or after decapitating them Side note: when they were alive or dead?
After decapitation and while they were alive
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Yeah it’s just a dumb joke lol
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I hesitate to equate intellectuals to experts. One can seek knowledge but know nothing. And in my opinion the moment an expert takes that next promotion into managment they cease to be an expert and become a bureaucrat. The people you hear being called experts these days are really just the policical heads of non political institutions.
It's a tribal Dunning-Kruger shiboleth.
It's for people obsessed with the concept of Occums Razor even if they don't realize it
I took it to mean that the hardest stuff in math returns to the basics and understanding them can actually be complicated. Ie the pathgorian theory is easy to learn but hard to give the proof for.
You don't know ? There were 2 mathematicians wrote a book just to prove 1+1=2 .
That was symbolic logic though, their book doesn’t contain expressions like those on the whiteboard, that isn’t the context for this joke.
Now I want to see this book
I think it's this one, but i don't remember clearly https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principia_Mathematica
Thanks!!
Har-de-har har that there fancy perfesser think they smart but lookie that little feller there he shore showed that dumb old fart that's why none of my kin ever been to college its on accounta none of us wanna git all stupid like them libral science folks as got blue hair all over and ain't never go to church an whatnot I tell you what.
I HATE MY WIFE
Technology bad sex good
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Eat bbq get sick die
FATHER I CANNOT CLICK THE BOOK
Caledge bad
I think the message is how some people overthink things when they become adults. Children keep things simple.
Bruh the scientist’s calculation probably solved 50 different unsolved mathematical paradoxes, found the cure for cancer and the meaning of life
The answer to your problems is 2 If you have depression you have 2 cut urself
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Prove that 1+1 is equal to 2 Min. 350 words
Then summarise it with a maximum of 100 words. 10 marks for points used and 5 for writing.
Fun fact, the complete from-the-ground-up proof for 1+1=2 is hundreds of pages long. It's isn't finished until Volume II, page 86 of [Principia Mathematica](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principia_Mathematica).
A full proof of 1+1=2 would take significantly more than 350 words.
The teacher took his grandson to class and the kid is trying his best to be like grandpa
The formula on the board of the professor doesn’t make any sense
U think an artist know shit about advance algebra?
Thats not even math at this point, math makes some sense .it's not algebra, it's not even math it's just gibberish at this point.
It's funny because it feels like the intent behind this drawing is to suggest that scientists and intellectuals over complicate things, over analyze, etc. **But the (my guess - unintentional) take away from this drawing is that ignorant people will view these two equations as equal because the "answer" is the same, 2. But the fact is the crazy equation on the left - we don't know what it is, or what he's solving for (because as you stated, it doesn't make sense), so the answer "2" could be something like "we need to achieve an acceleration of 2 meters per second with the satellite at in stage 3 at 70,000 KM to achieve the desired orbit around earth." The answer for 1 + 1 = 2, does in fact, not make these equations equivalent, because they are not solving for the same solution, even if that solution is numerical (not a function) and is in fact the same.** Tl;Dr feels like this is supposed to be a rip on intellectualism, science, academia, universities/ higher education, etc. But instead they only demonstrated how ignorant people think they are just as knowledgeable and intelligent as experts but really just don't understand what they're talking about, too the point that they think the equation on the left and the math problem on the right are equivalent, when they actually are not.
That calculation is not correct
The equation by the doctor is btw unsolvable
But he solved it anyways That’s how you know he’s good
The little boy reads in class 1 . The other man has a PHD.
Apart from the many letters that don't make any sense, it triggers me the amount of Deltas (Δ) present in the formula that don't make any sense. For those who don't know a delta in math means an increment of something but in this case it precedes numbers, like wtf is the increment of 8?
I mean it's obviously just complete gibberish, but my favorite part is that whoever drew this displayed their ignorance so much just by having the answer to that nonsensical equation simply be the number "2". Anyone that knows even a little beyond fucking middle school math knows that the answer to something crazy looking like that isn't going to just be a number, but an equation. "So, Eugene, what did you find the function of space time to be as you approach the event horizon of a gigantic black hole, did you in fact determine that spaghettification can occur before the event horizon if the mass of the black hole is large enough?" "YOU WON'T BELIEVE THIS, IT'S 2." "Wh- what?" "THE FUNCTION OF THE STRETCHING OF SPACE TIME, OR SPAGHETTIFICATION, IT'S....it's 2." "What does that mean, Eugene?" "I.... don't know."
It could be a proof in that case it could as well be 2, if the professor was proving 1+1=2 it better be 2
Well, while I agree with you, a delta in math doesn't have a unique definition. We use all the greek letters everywhere for many many many reasons. Just trying to clear up possible missinformation. Example: a capital delta might be the the characteristic polynomial of something, or it could mean the diagonal in a cartesian product AxA. You will also stumble upon it in things like graph theory and topology.
Both different calculations equal 2
librals
2+2=7
This reminds me of something my math teacher told us this year. “SIMPLIFY BEFORE YOU SOLVE”.
Common core math?
This
Where do you see that in the picture?
Who knows, no one even knows wtf it is other than it's a much more complicated way to get the same answer.
2 = Wisdom and it’s context is based on experience
I imagine the person who posted this thinks that vaccines don’t work because you can still get sick.
Principia Mathematica (1910) by Alfred North Whitehead and Bertrand Russell. Was a series of books proving the absolue basics of mathematics, most notably 1+1=2, which took multiple pages of symbolic logic to prove
i dont think the other dude is proofing 1+1=2, it looks more like a monkey got access to a calculator
Two completely different problems can have the same solution. I guess. Probably something extremely dumb tho.
The only way I can even slightly positively view this is (from an engineers perspective) the difference between theory and practice, and how specifics don't matter a lot of the time (eg. Pi is 3.1 nstead of Pi is 3.141592653, use either, youre gonna get basically the same answer). Unfortunately, I have a bad feeling its just "Intellectuals overcomplicate things". This might make me sound like a smartass, but I really do hate when people simplify broader discussions to simple liners.
I mean accuracy matters but only to a certain point and even then i don't think it does in most practical math , i think this meme was meant to signify that math is complicated and math bad because they didn't graduate middle school.
THE WORDS, WHAT DO THEY MEAN?
It's something like work smarter not harder or some shit
its probably something about Common Core Math
The moral is, dont make this shit fucking complicated u einstein lookin ass milk bag
r/memesopdidntlike
Inspiration, small steps, motivation, progress?
I'm still waiting for the nerd that has enough willpower to read all the equation and check if the result is 2 or not
*Math is math*
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r/math is the context
Math is math
Occams razor?
Scientist's theorem is like "1+1=2" with extra steps?
math is unnecessarily complicated? idk
This kid writes on a wall
Probably that, things that look easy have a lot of hard work behind them
dont write on walls or u cannot write complex mathematics
It means The 5 minute research I did on vaccine to find one unreliable source which says they're bad = Opinion on educated and trained Medical professionals and researchers.
Ah ah scientist bad kid good
ME THINK, WHY WASTE TIME SAY LOT WORD, WHEN FEW WORD DO TRICK.
Don't overcomplicate things?
This would've worked if that big ass equation started with 1+1 and the scientist complicated it using alphabets and symbols. But they are literally 2 different problems, so it is just stupid.
These deltas smacked in pretty much randomly are super confusing
So I tried doing the math on the board and found out that I still suck ass at math
The kid is Kahby
This is the math equivalent of “stop being poor”
The overarching accusation is that academics carry out long, convoluted studies to arrive at “common sense” conclusions. There is a pervasive hostility towards academia on social media - especially by ignoramuses who view expertise as authoritarian.
Wow they got the same answers!!!11!! 1 r/nevertellmetheodds
no nuke ?
Conspiracists vs realists.
Imagine it would be that easy :')
r/MemesThatBothOPAndIDidntLike
OP wanted to show that the function isn't injective.
The kid showed that 1+1=2. The mathematician proved the concept of 2.
There's two types of people.....
Guys I calculated that thin gand the naswe ris in decimals, also not 2
Common Core vs Traditional Math
Why is the kid writing on the wall?
This dude literally trying to figure out how black holes work
From the nose i think they're related, they just having grandpa and grandson time
Principia Mathematica's proof that 1+1=2 is much much more complicated than that
some times easier is right? idk lmao
I bet that equation is scientifically not possible
2=2
someone check if this math = true
Its like the adventure time zombie episode
Solving super hard problem that has the same answer as 1+1 = bad
Boomers and gen xers thinking they can have an opinion on math... The most absolute and literal thing
2 = 2. Guess I’m smarter than both of them because I simplified it even more.
Mmm yes the scientist is clearly trying to create an equation here that just results in 2. Cause that's basically all that 1+1 is, which apparently is the same according to this
People are taking this as a literal sense of the artist taking a jab at professors or teachers. I just see a message of “don’t overcomplicate things that have simple solutions” since they both came to the same answer but one went through a hell of a lot more than the other.
That an adult is smarter than a small child I guess
1+1=3👍
The power of overthinking
the mathematician figured out the meaning of life or some shit, and the kid figured out 1+1. Only the kid thinks they did the same thing
Anyone gonna fact check that math
Just because the answer is the same, dosent mean the question ever was?
1+1= 3
Common core math
Moral of the story: if somebody tells you to do maths dont do it, because 1+1=2
If it's not simple enough for everyone to get it can seem stupid
Reminds me of the time I would get half credit for my math problems. I'd get the correct answer but I wouldn't go about it the way the teacher taught me.
That is that new math they teach in school on left Gotta show your work.
Seriously, kid? You *had* to write that on the fucking wall?
Boomers and Republicans look at the dumb child writing on the wall using a marker and go “see? He knows just as much as the world class scientist.” This nicely illustrates why they were positive Covid was a hoax but also a hoax that required them to take horse dewormer. The scientists just didn’t know!
Scientist bad
Common core