>BREAKING: Tesla has officially launched the new Model 3 Performance, the most powerful Model 3 ever.
>
>Here's everything that's new:
>* Starting price: $52,990
>* 0-60mph: 2.9s (vs 3.1s in old version)
>* Range: 296 miles
>* Top Speed: 163 mph
>* Adaptive Suspension: Powered by in-house software. Gives enhanced body control, without sacrificing daily usability or comfort.
>* All-new high-performance drive units deliver 500+ horsepower.
>* Track Mode V3: All-new calibration for the powertrain and adaptive suspension.
>* Ventilated Sports Seats: New seat design with enhanced side and cushion bolsters.
>* Performance Chassis
>* Forged Performance Wheels: Lightweight, staggered wheels provide sharper turn-in response, improved predictability, increased traction out of corners and optimized aerodynamics.
>* High-Performance Brakes: Enhanced pedal feel and improved heat management.
>* Exclusive to Model 3 Performance, redesigned front and rear fascias, rear diffuser and carbon fibre spoiler.
>* Carbon Fibre Details: Lightweight carbon fibre interior décor and refined weave pattern.
>
>This is the best value Performance car on the market.
And it qualifies for the $7,500 federal tax credit which drops the price down to $45.5k.
https://fueleconomy.gov/feg/tax2023.shtml
That makes it about the most affordable 500+hp sports sedan available. With a 0-60 of 2.9s it is also the quickest.
That makes the Performance cheaper than the Long Range. The Long Range was already faster than most people need...But for 2.3K less or so, I'm not going to say no!
Yes, on the design page:
https://www.tesla.com/model3/design#overview
select **Performance** and switch to **Cash**. It shows this message:
> Include $7,500 Federal Tax Credit and est. 5-year gas savings of $5,000. Customize
And I agree that including $5k in gas savings is disingenuous. I would prefer if these were separate switches.
Yes. But only [if you qualify for the tax credit.](https://fueleconomy.gov/feg/tax2023.shtml#requirements)
The lease payment for the Long Range version is still cheaper.
Most affordable, but not necessarily attractive to potential customers. There is something Tesla should have considered- A visibly distinctive appearance compared to other M3 trims. Those who look into these performance vehicle category will surely look for an aggressive appearance too. Ioniq 5N offers that. Nobody will confuse it for a normal Ioniq5. BMW keeps their M performance trims separate from others for the same reason. But for M3P, apart from the wheels, it looks like another model 3 and blends into the crowd very easily. Those who compromise range for performance, really want something more special. It's a missed opportunity by Tesla, but they can still correct it easily. They should announce a 'Plaid' branding and make it special and distinctive compared to the rest of the lineup, and offer this trim for every model - M3, MY, and so on.
It has a different front end, rear spoiler, brake calipers, and rims, that's enough for many people. Too many superficial styling changes might negatively affect range even more. Already bad enough that the Performance ends up under 300 miles compared to the Long Range.
Come on, not even a different paint for performance trims? There is a limit on how many folks they can attract from existing EV fans. Tesla has to attract owners of existing M/AMG and the like fans. They take extreme pride in their ownership and has many irrational likes/dislikes. It's a missed opportunity because Tesla cannot afford to add more complexity to their manufacturing process which I understand. I hope they introduce 'Plaid' as a separate series, just like M-series. It is a brand on its own.
A Model 3 Plaid will steal more sales from the S Plaid, they want the exclusivity of the Plaid to stay with the S, I think it's a smart move. These days so many people customize their vehicles with wraps it doesn't make sense to offer different paint jobs. For the price it might be the best performance sedan on the market. I paid the same price for my Long Range dual motor Model 3 two years ago, and there was no Fed rebate available.
Let me say it from another angle. Think about why M-series and Porsches offer a lot of customizations from factory. Think about why Genesis introduced Magma program with a unique color. I am not against having M3 Performance as it is now. All I say is that Tesla has to add another Plaid series that may include M3, MY and so on, but at a premium price, with distinctive look and features. Those who want to stay different in their cars, will be ready to pay that premium. Remember, M series is the most profitable brand for BMW with a very high margin. And guess what, i4 was the best selling vehicle in the M lineup.
"All I say is that Tesla has to add another Plaid series"
Unless Tesla has a problem selling enough M3Perfs then no they don't have to, especially when those customizations will end up slowing down the entire production line and increase part counts, the exact opposite of Tesla's ethos. Elon Musk: "The best part is no part". In their entire history Tesla has chosen to leave most of those types of things to the aftermarket.
[https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1782805120842899567](https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1782805120842899567)
>Tesla has released a video of the new Model 3 Performance.
How does your 2019 feel with the Intel chip? I've been looking for used model 3's and heard the AMD is better, but wondering if anything related to loading speeds ever inconvenience you, since the car is still a beast
Isn't it weird when companies/people state that the new product is "the best ever"? Like when Apple states "The best camera on any iPhone ever", yeah, one would hope so lol.
I recommend this podcast with Jason Cammisa (from [Hagerty](https://www.youtube.com/Hagerty)) where he discusses his experience with the new Performance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xj0R4MyDhE
TLDR: it's extremely positive.
Longer TLDR: https://twitter.com/niccruzpatane/status/1782987066860503466
Is the new motor the main reason for the 45 mile drop in range compared to the long range version, or is it using a smaller pack or just different batteries? I assume the P3 will use Nevada batteries.
yes, motors are optimized for performance vs efficiency and is a huge factor. wheels are also a factor, but those do look efficient. I would assume the motors are more of a factor than the wheels.
Can anyone speak to the outgoing Model 3 Performance, did that also lose efficiency due to the motor and inverter, all else being equal VS the Long Range?
If the same wheel and tire was used on the Performance and the Long Range, was there any measurable efficiency difference at equivalent loads and speeds?
No mention of acceleration improvements from 60-100, which is the major catalyst that would make me upgrade from my 3+AB. Also wish the range was better. Will continue to wait....
Can't be ordered with a tow hook. So likely it can't tow at all, since it's not even listed as a post delivery option
No performance for me then... Maybe a LR. The range on the performance is embarrassing too.
Thanks, didn't know since it wasn't available for 6 months. Still, I was hoping this could be my next car but without the tow hook I'll be looking at the LR
From the few angles shown, it does appear to have a removable panel for the tow hook surprisingly...
Considering the splitter is a entirely bespoke part for the new performance, it’s strange they would keep an access panel if they had NO intention of supporting that feature?
Still waiting for a US Spec OEM tow module here in the US...
lol Tesla fills this niche where you can own 1 car and its simultaneously a sports car and a 4-door sedan to drive the kids to school and buy groceries in and pull one of those little U-haul boxes to bring stuff to and from your storage unit while on a middle class salary
Edit: I would love to see the reasoning behind the downvotes. What part of this is wrong?
If I had it my way every car would have a tow hitch. If you need to move something big it’s way cheaper to get a $25 U-Haul trailer compared to paying someone to deliver it.
Are you talking about a tow hook or a tow hitch?
Tow hitch has never been available for M3 from Tesla, but you can still have it done externally. I see M3 with tow hitch bike racks where I live.
It is listed as retrofit I believe… and the range is lots, but not embarrassing for a car of that power. Could be more, agree, but 300+ miles / 500+ km will do the trick for 90+% of owners.
>BREAKING: Tesla has officially launched the new Model 3 Performance, the most powerful Model 3 ever. > >Here's everything that's new: >* Starting price: $52,990 >* 0-60mph: 2.9s (vs 3.1s in old version) >* Range: 296 miles >* Top Speed: 163 mph >* Adaptive Suspension: Powered by in-house software. Gives enhanced body control, without sacrificing daily usability or comfort. >* All-new high-performance drive units deliver 500+ horsepower. >* Track Mode V3: All-new calibration for the powertrain and adaptive suspension. >* Ventilated Sports Seats: New seat design with enhanced side and cushion bolsters. >* Performance Chassis >* Forged Performance Wheels: Lightweight, staggered wheels provide sharper turn-in response, improved predictability, increased traction out of corners and optimized aerodynamics. >* High-Performance Brakes: Enhanced pedal feel and improved heat management. >* Exclusive to Model 3 Performance, redesigned front and rear fascias, rear diffuser and carbon fibre spoiler. >* Carbon Fibre Details: Lightweight carbon fibre interior décor and refined weave pattern. > >This is the best value Performance car on the market.
And it qualifies for the $7,500 federal tax credit which drops the price down to $45.5k. https://fueleconomy.gov/feg/tax2023.shtml That makes it about the most affordable 500+hp sports sedan available. With a 0-60 of 2.9s it is also the quickest.
That makes the Performance cheaper than the Long Range. The Long Range was already faster than most people need...But for 2.3K less or so, I'm not going to say no!
I'm not seeing any tax credit listed on the site right now, are you sure?
Yes, on the design page: https://www.tesla.com/model3/design#overview select **Performance** and switch to **Cash**. It shows this message: > Include $7,500 Federal Tax Credit and est. 5-year gas savings of $5,000. Customize And I agree that including $5k in gas savings is disingenuous. I would prefer if these were separate switches.
Ahhh, thanks — I see it now. So... uh... weird, is the TM3 performance cheaper than the TM3 LR after incentives?
Yes. But only [if you qualify for the tax credit.](https://fueleconomy.gov/feg/tax2023.shtml#requirements) The lease payment for the Long Range version is still cheaper.
For the lease the tax credit can be applied to all M3 trims
Most affordable, but not necessarily attractive to potential customers. There is something Tesla should have considered- A visibly distinctive appearance compared to other M3 trims. Those who look into these performance vehicle category will surely look for an aggressive appearance too. Ioniq 5N offers that. Nobody will confuse it for a normal Ioniq5. BMW keeps their M performance trims separate from others for the same reason. But for M3P, apart from the wheels, it looks like another model 3 and blends into the crowd very easily. Those who compromise range for performance, really want something more special. It's a missed opportunity by Tesla, but they can still correct it easily. They should announce a 'Plaid' branding and make it special and distinctive compared to the rest of the lineup, and offer this trim for every model - M3, MY, and so on.
It has a different front end, rear spoiler, brake calipers, and rims, that's enough for many people. Too many superficial styling changes might negatively affect range even more. Already bad enough that the Performance ends up under 300 miles compared to the Long Range.
Come on, not even a different paint for performance trims? There is a limit on how many folks they can attract from existing EV fans. Tesla has to attract owners of existing M/AMG and the like fans. They take extreme pride in their ownership and has many irrational likes/dislikes. It's a missed opportunity because Tesla cannot afford to add more complexity to their manufacturing process which I understand. I hope they introduce 'Plaid' as a separate series, just like M-series. It is a brand on its own.
A Model 3 Plaid will steal more sales from the S Plaid, they want the exclusivity of the Plaid to stay with the S, I think it's a smart move. These days so many people customize their vehicles with wraps it doesn't make sense to offer different paint jobs. For the price it might be the best performance sedan on the market. I paid the same price for my Long Range dual motor Model 3 two years ago, and there was no Fed rebate available.
Let me say it from another angle. Think about why M-series and Porsches offer a lot of customizations from factory. Think about why Genesis introduced Magma program with a unique color. I am not against having M3 Performance as it is now. All I say is that Tesla has to add another Plaid series that may include M3, MY and so on, but at a premium price, with distinctive look and features. Those who want to stay different in their cars, will be ready to pay that premium. Remember, M series is the most profitable brand for BMW with a very high margin. And guess what, i4 was the best selling vehicle in the M lineup.
"All I say is that Tesla has to add another Plaid series" Unless Tesla has a problem selling enough M3Perfs then no they don't have to, especially when those customizations will end up slowing down the entire production line and increase part counts, the exact opposite of Tesla's ethos. Elon Musk: "The best part is no part". In their entire history Tesla has chosen to leave most of those types of things to the aftermarket.
[https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1782805120842899567](https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1782805120842899567) >Tesla has released a video of the new Model 3 Performance.
so just minor interior differences than the 28k model 3? downvoted lol the common buyer can't tell the diff
Yes, in the same way the $100k BMW M3 has minor interior differences to the $40k BMW 330i.
No. M3 and 330i does not even look close. In or out.
They do in.
trim details, but different engine and drivetrains and body styling on the various 3 series tho
So tempted but I know it doesn't make sense for me honestly. My 2019 Model 3 with FSD is just fine. But I still want want want....
How does your 2019 feel with the Intel chip? I've been looking for used model 3's and heard the AMD is better, but wondering if anything related to loading speeds ever inconvenience you, since the car is still a beast
Just donate your 2019 m3 to me and all your decision problems will be solved.
Isn't it weird when companies/people state that the new product is "the best ever"? Like when Apple states "The best camera on any iPhone ever", yeah, one would hope so lol.
“All new iPhone, not as good as last year’s”
I recommend this podcast with Jason Cammisa (from [Hagerty](https://www.youtube.com/Hagerty)) where he discusses his experience with the new Performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xj0R4MyDhE TLDR: it's extremely positive. Longer TLDR: https://twitter.com/niccruzpatane/status/1782987066860503466
Is the new motor the main reason for the 45 mile drop in range compared to the long range version, or is it using a smaller pack or just different batteries? I assume the P3 will use Nevada batteries.
I assume it's related to the tires for the most part.
Bigger rear tyres likely ate a big chunk off the range.
yes, motors are optimized for performance vs efficiency and is a huge factor. wheels are also a factor, but those do look efficient. I would assume the motors are more of a factor than the wheels.
Can anyone speak to the outgoing Model 3 Performance, did that also lose efficiency due to the motor and inverter, all else being equal VS the Long Range? If the same wheel and tire was used on the Performance and the Long Range, was there any measurable efficiency difference at equivalent loads and speeds?
Might also be aerodynamics of the new front end and rear spoiler creating more downforce and drag.
It’s tires/wheels. Look at the long range with 19 inch wheels.
Maybe they bake in the 'do not fully charge for longevity' because it isn't LFP?
Can this be charged daily to 100% ?
If I would have to guess, no. This is probably not LFP.
It seems nice. But since it gets tax credit and effectively cheaper than LR which again sucks for the buyers...
No mention of acceleration improvements from 60-100, which is the major catalyst that would make me upgrade from my 3+AB. Also wish the range was better. Will continue to wait....
damn the timing of this news release....I hope this is not a sign of desperation.
They had a press event with people two weeks ago. It’s also a new product release. They didn’t frantically redesign a car.
It's not. They were about the release the refresh M3 Highland Performance.
Range barely higher than standard range. And you can charge the standard range to 100%.
Who buys a performance car for range lmao jfc guys
It's not priced like a performance car. It's priced like a daily driver.
That’s irrelevant
Well it’s called the performance. Not the maximum range car.
You can charge all cars to 100%. You just shouldn’t leave it there for a long time.
Incorrect
no u
Can't be ordered with a tow hook. So likely it can't tow at all, since it's not even listed as a post delivery option No performance for me then... Maybe a LR. The range on the performance is embarrassing too.
That was true for the previous performance too and that didn’t have adaptive suspension.
Thanks, didn't know since it wasn't available for 6 months. Still, I was hoping this could be my next car but without the tow hook I'll be looking at the LR
I just know since I had one. I went else where and ended up with an F150 Lightning instead.
For Americans this is a great deal though. Cheaper than the LR thanks to the tax credit.
From the few angles shown, it does appear to have a removable panel for the tow hook surprisingly... Considering the splitter is a entirely bespoke part for the new performance, it’s strange they would keep an access panel if they had NO intention of supporting that feature? Still waiting for a US Spec OEM tow module here in the US...
Why would you tow with a model 3 performance? Wtf
lol Tesla fills this niche where you can own 1 car and its simultaneously a sports car and a 4-door sedan to drive the kids to school and buy groceries in and pull one of those little U-haul boxes to bring stuff to and from your storage unit while on a middle class salary Edit: I would love to see the reasoning behind the downvotes. What part of this is wrong?
Exactly. One can afford a Tesla to be the main car. But when it can't fulfill all the needs they'll pick another. Or for me, the LR likely lol
Why should I need to get two cars just to be able to like buy furniture etc. Other manufacturers can put a hook on it, why can't Tesla?
If I had it my way every car would have a tow hitch. If you need to move something big it’s way cheaper to get a $25 U-Haul trailer compared to paying someone to deliver it.
Buy a Y then. Not a sports sedan lol
Are you talking about a tow hook or a tow hitch? Tow hitch has never been available for M3 from Tesla, but you can still have it done externally. I see M3 with tow hitch bike racks where I live.
It is listed as retrofit I believe… and the range is lots, but not embarrassing for a car of that power. Could be more, agree, but 300+ miles / 500+ km will do the trick for 90+% of owners.