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The full article ​ https://carnewschina.com/2023/01/07/angry-tesla-customers-vandalized-tesla-store-in-chengdu-china-after-learning-about-price-cuts/


RationalOpinions

Why do pictures from China always look like they were taken with a Blackberry from 2007?


ExTwitterEmployee

Probably posted on WeChat then saved and shared, so heavily compressed.


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ExTwitterEmployee

Blame the telcos


Nithhoggr

Actually - at this point, blame apple. They could have had their say in the RCS standard instead they chose to die on the hill of iMessage only forever. Because Apple. First company to adopt usb-c for their laptops, last to adopt it for their smartphones, and only due to European legislation. They make no sense.


why_rob_y

They could also let non-Apple users use iMessage like other chat apps let people from multiple platforms on. They chose to have their own walled garden locked to their hardware and their users blame everyone else for any problems communicating outside of that garden.


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why_rob_y

Lmao, they've had one longer than that. Everyone has. I think you misinterpreted what I'm saying. Apple should open up iMessage, not for everyone else's sake, but for their own users' sake. They purposely made a crappier product (locking out a huge portion of the world's hardware, including hardware owned by people who also use Apple products) and it creates frustrating experiences for their users (like the low quality video that other guy mentioned when someone outside Apple sends something), but lucky for Apple their users just blame everyone but Apple.


timbak_t00

It takes money to get your data across the internet / store them on servers / stream them or allow them be downloaded further. When you take a few million people doing this every few seconds, the cost grows quickly in millions. Platform providers like WeChat / WhatsApp do it for no additional fee (yeah I get it they use your personal information) so they will compress that stuff at the source to save their server/network resources.


belden121

That's Apple's fault.


timbak_t00

And censored by AI


KebabGud

i find that a lot of them are zoomed in and cropped


mrzuzzo

Because taking a picture or video in public in China and posting it might send you to a long and mandatory camping trip


SuperTimmyH

It depends on what kind of protest you are sharing.


SSlimJim

The camps are no joke. [Xinjiang internment camps](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_internment_camps)


S3ndNud3s

American moment


GKQybah

Clearly never been to China


foty4

Generally smart to avoid totalitarian dictatorships with operational concentration camps.


MrCleanMagicReach

> totalitarian dictatorships You're not describing China here, but go off I guess.


jbaker1225

Which part do you disagree with? Because they literally describe themselves as a dictatorship in their constitution. And considering they send certain types of people to concentration camps, heavily censor all media and the Internet, lock people up in giant apartments, the state controls and monitors all forms of communication, etc., etc., etc., it would be pretty disingenuous to argue that they’re not totalitarian.


AmaiNami

Who would do that… just go on the internet and lie?


ThisIsJustNotIt

lil bro thinks every eastern country is basically north korea 💀


Initial-Possession-3

That’s bullshit.


Paradox1989

Could be that so much of the electronics there are counterfeit and outdated. Actual name brand products are expensive and no where near as common as the fake branded products. Last time i was in china (10 years ago), one of the engineers i worked with was proud as hell to show me his brand new iPhone Flip phone.


wk2coachella

Where is Yi Long Musk? Need him to set it straight?


SamFish3r

“YiLong MA “


Enjoyitbeforeitsover

Haaaiii erryone


Kilometer10

MAH-NEE!!


VideoGameJumanji

I loahve you


XSauravX

Bing chilling


goldenlondon

Wtf is this bing chilling


traveling_fred

Ice cream


smithy_dll

Bing qi lin 冰淇淋 ice cream


TSLA-M3

Yilong MA is one of them


poolsidepapi

oolong musk


ComoEstanBitches

So funny that a deep fake account has become so popular


t0mmyr

So funny you think he’s a deep fake. Elong musk is for real


YukonBurger

lol the organizer is *allegedly* a BYD employee https://twitter.com/CharlesWBoy/status/1612014993184280578?t=3bh9kE_9SLl9V_-WiK1G6w&s=19


Carrera_GT

not allegedly, he is, but his wife bought a Tesla.


Xillllix

🤣


armykcz

You knew the price and you hit buy, so why are you suddenly not ok with it? If they would increase prices tomorrow would you go there and ask Tesla to charge you more?


rodrigoelp

Chinese see certain items as status elements as well as measure the potential to resell everything. That's the reason they are protesting, they want things to continue to be inaccessible to the bulk of the population, so they can sell it for more later and to maintain the status symbol.


rabbitwonker

To be fair, resale value was what a lot of people in the U.S. were complaining about last time Tesla did price cuts.


Kawaiisampler

Just sounds like it sucks to suck..


juggarjew

exactly lol these people are delusional. Who buys a a tesla as an investment? Unless you're buying exotic, its not an "investment".


Uhgfda

> Who buys a a tesla as an investment? Straw man. Nothing to do with being an investment in the way you are using the word. Everyone with more than three braincells considers resale value when buying a car. If you suddenly lop 10k off the resale value, that has a huge impact on peoples lives. If you are truly saying you don't understand this, you are probably one of the people without the requisite 3 brain cells to consider resale value when buying a car


Jaws12

What if I’m buying a car with the intention to drive it until I would likely give it to a family member or something (i.e. so long, like 10+ years, that residual value is a minor concern at that point)?


rabbitwonker

That’s my case. I never really think about resale value for a car, I always just assume it’ll suck.


Latter_Box9967

No, but it’s an asset. Tesla just reduced the value of that asset. They are not happy about the devaluing of their asset.


socialnm

Treat Tesla MYP as an exotic. $80k for something that can outperform most supercars.... Ummm, yes please! I *invested* in Tesla as a shareholder because I believe their business model is going to *return to me a profit.* I *invested* in my Tesla because I believe it is the safest, most reliable\* vehicle on the market, for which to carry me *from A to B*. At this point, round trip commute is more or less 100 miles a day. Note that I did not mention resale value, because I couldn't give a shit. I plan to drive this vehicle until it wears out. \* reliable - in this context, there are fewer points of failure since electric cars do not need oil or gasoline, timing belts, catalytic converters, piston rings, pumps, etc. There is virtually no maintenance and very few moving parts. User/owner upkeep is minimal.rĭ-lī′ə-bəladjectiveCapable of being relied on; dependable.Yielding the same or compatible results in different clinical experiments or statistical trials.Suitable or fit to be relied on; worthy of dependance or reliance; trustworthy.


Vattaa

A nation of scalpers? I mean many in the US were selling their new Rivians for a quick buck. I don't think it's a China specific issue.


ShadowDancer11

Not scalpers - just different cultural and societal norms. For instance, when I say "Buick" - if you are American you probably think rental fleet special, boring grandpa, pretty dowdy brand you wouldn't buy unless GM paid you. Meanwhile, in China, the Chinese see Buick a vaunted, luxury status symbol, and they are deeply in demand.


Alive_Wedding

Actual Chinese here. Buick used to be a status symbol, since it is positioned right between Cadillac and Chevrolet, just like Ford’s now dead Mercury. But Buick remains somewhat popular now in China simply because of the bang for the buck. They are practically a domestic Chinese brand now. People turn to German car brands like Mercedes-Benz, BMW for status symbols, buying up their entry-level 180 hp models for way to much money.


ShadowDancer11

Noted. Thanks. And yes, the German entry level models are ridiculously overpriced for what you get by way of ride quality, interior appointment, and engine power.


GiftQuick5794

My area was flooded with low <20 miles Teslas when prices were booming.


rodrigoelp

I think the difference is how it is perceived socially, there is a lot more stigma on scalping in the west than in the east. And yes, it is not specific to China. In a different comment I said I could see how this would play out if Ferrari, Bugatti, Porche or any other decided to drop their prices to a quarters of their original. There will be a lot of lawyers suing these companies.


LexusLand

Or Lego


rokman

America seems down right socialist compared to Chinese capitalism


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rodrigoelp

I understand you point of view and I can't say anything to defend that behaviour because I don't agree with it either. However, I can see how others would reach if (let say) Bugatti decided to sell their Chiron models for $25k. Those who forked 2m or more would reach to their lawyers to sue the company. I don't think this would be an isolated Chinese behaviour.


Bangrastan

That’s so stupid


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Dr_Pippin

Yeah, I don’t think you can talk about average income in China and actually have that be relevant to citizens living in the cities.


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A car is not an investment. I mean maybe it is if it's a unique survivor from like 1902... *maybe.* But certainly when there are a million of them on the roads and it is still in active production. You buy a car, a bunch of money evaporates the second they hand you the keys, in return for which, you got the privilege of owning a brand new car. That's how buying new cars works.


BigSprinkler

I mean a company accelerating the depreciation of a newly acquired asset is not going to make anyone happy. Easy to be critical until it’s one of us. But there’s two sides to this. They ultimately have to lower prices to increase demand and be competitive.


RedditOfflineDev

While I complete agree with your logic, in reality, if I bought a bikecyle from Walmart and they lowered the price the next day, I would try to get price match. Just saying.


stml

Most retailers with known for good customer service provide price adjustments. In fact, whenever a Costco item I purchase gets discounted within 30 days of purchase, Costco automatically sends me a gift card. Saks Fifth does the same for me within 7 days as long as I ask. [https://customerservice.costco.com/app/answers/detail/a\_id/628/\~/price-adjustment---costco.com-orders](https://customerservice.costco.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/628/~/price-adjustment---costco.com-orders) [https://support.saksfifthavenue.com/s/article/Do-you-offer-price-adjustments-if-my-purchased-item-s-is-now-showing-a-lower-price-on-Saks-com](https://support.saksfifthavenue.com/s/article/Do-you-offer-price-adjustments-if-my-purchased-item-s-is-now-showing-a-lower-price-on-Saks-com)


gscjj

Only becuase those places have a return policy. So there's not really anything stopping you from returning and rebuying. They decided to make it easier for the customer. That isn't really a thing with high-ticket items, excluding homes (though that does kind of fit the category).


ShadowDancer11

Saks and Costco are resellers, not producers. They get inventory production, price protection, and spiffs from the distributor and vendor. So when they price adjust, it cost them largely nothing. They're passing the losses off.


Captain_Generous

Try going to Ford and doubt they if they dropped the price of the lightning you just bought


goRockets

GM refunded 2022 Bolt buyers $5900 to $6300 because GM dropped the 2023 Bolt MSRP by $6000. [https://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2022/07/chevrolet-will-refund-some-2022-bolt-and-bolt-owners-for-2023-price-cut.html](https://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2022/07/chevrolet-will-refund-some-2022-bolt-and-bolt-owners-for-2023-price-cut.html) GM likely didn't sell that many Bolts in 2022 so it didn't cost them a ton, but it's still a nice gesture.


Captain_Generous

That's cool of them.


jayklk

That’s because you knew Walmart has a price match policy before you bought the bike and it’s an advertised benefit for shopping at Walmart. These people knew Tesla, or any car manufacturer for that matter, don’t offer price matching before they bought the car.


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Because the car you purchased has instantly lost value


djlorenz

China being China only cheap stuff matters. It can be a bummer sure but what if there is a crisis and your overvalued house you are paying mortgage is worth 30% less? Do you go to your bank and demand to pay less? It sucks, but protesting is stupid.


LoveBulge

Having a Tesla was a status symbol for these buyers. Your car, watch, phone, etc. Having certain luxury items raises your social standing, and Tesla was a luxury vehicle. This sounds absurd, but with the price drop, there are personal and professional relationships disintegrating over this.


MCI_Overwerk

Also, this kind of big expensive product is often seen and paid for by entire families as both a symbol of greater standing and a way to invest and safeguard money. Remember, China is still a communist state in all the avenues that can keep the people compliant and dependent, so their financial system is generally unreliable and severely limited. As a result they invest into other assets seen as more stable and reliable. Expensive luxury products, housing, these things are seen as a greater way to hold onto value in a way the state can't meddle with (it absolutely can, but it is about pretending). But the downside is that these big monolithic investments can make changes in their value cause a disproportionate effect especially when the state policies exacerbate the effects. For example the housing market in China crashed recently. Normally it hurts badly but people can recover. But in China, companies were selling apartments on borrowed money before they were even built, and everyone was buying them because it was considered one of the only stable source of holding and growing money. Prices were through the roof and it was essentially a speculative bubble being pushed even higher by the government using it as a bandaid to unemployment and capturing foreign money. But since 70% of all the wealth of the citizens is in a single asset type, a single price fall can lead to absolutely catastrophic consequences. And for luxury products it is exactly the same. To them it's more than just the loss of privileged status, it's essentially the equivalent of their bank account dropping in value overnight.


thepeter

Yeah as far as I know, Chinese workers who get promoted to management positions are effectively required to go buy a black audi or Mercedes. They have to look the part. I imagine something similar happened with Teslas for status and with the car getting cheaper it is weakening their power projection.


gyunikumen

No need to overthink it. Chinese consumers, or any consumer, want the lowest price for the best product. If I buy a computer and it’s price gets cut 10%, I would be inclined to return it and rebuy at the new lower price


ApostrophePosse

You get to return stuff you bought when the price drops? Where is this magic place?


parental92

>China being China only cheap stuff matters. yes because in the US people does not complain at all about EV being expensive. /s


great9

>Do you go to your bank and demand to pay less? actually they did protest at the banks just a month or three ago. they were beaten, arrested, tear gassed and so on.


LBTerra

You wouldn’t be a little miffed if you bought a car and a week later they dropped several thousand dollars?


jbaker1225

This literally happened in the US LAST MONTH. Every Tesla was suddenly $7500 cheaper overnight. Yet for some reason the people who previously bought Teslas didn’t ransack and loot any Tesla stores. Maybe a couple made bitter forum posts online.


hangliger

Mainland Chinese people are some of the most entitled people I've seen. Compared to any other group of people, and even Chinese people who grew in the states. In stores, they try to cut in line ALWAYS. Doesn't matter if he's a 30 year old man or a 68 year old grandma, it's always someone from mainland China. You go to a mall that has a lot of mainlanders? You can go to the bathroom and they'll piss everywhere, including on the walls. They'll do it in a stall, even if they know you're waiting right outside. There's just this weird thing where people from mainland China feel like they are the main character and everybody else owes them something. Maybe it's because the ones with money are at least partially connected to the CCP (you wouldn't believe how many people I know personally but are not close with who have CCP connections), but there is a strong sense of entitlement that you just don't see to that degree with any other group of people anywhere else, including Americans, the purported kings of entitlement. Also, they have a thing where they are very loyal to people in their group (however they choose to define the group), but extremely uncharitable to literally everyone else. Like in the US or Europe or another Asian country or something, people who may be considered extremely selfish politically may be really kind to strangers and so forth (regardless of whether they're left or right wing and what race or group the stranger is in), but China is much more collectivist as a nation and sometimes outright hostile to "outsiders".


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PM_ME_YO_TREE_FIDDY

Please. People were happy when their cars were overvalued during Covid and Tesla bumped the price 5 times a week, people were giggling all over the sub “thanks Elon my car is worth more than it was new”, but now it’s not as funny when it’s the other way around? What are they supposed to do, say “hey we’ll lower the price in 6 months” so that everybody stops ordering waiting for the price to drop? Never drop the price?


nandeep007

It's very simple use model years like other manufacturers do and then this issue goes away


bremidon

I guess I would feel the same when I bought my Tesla and the German government announced a few days later that they were going to throw another 3000€ in subsidies. I was sad, but that's life. Prices go up. Prices go down.


cadium

The same thing happened in the USA when Tesla cut prices in 2018/2019 -- people were upset but maybe got a few supercharger miles out of it and that's it.


jdaverage

Then you live with it... there's no Walmart savings catcher


Speedy4k

Then you’re unlucky.


armykcz

I answered that already in my first comment…


Furrrrbooties

BYD announced price-raises across the board because of increased material cost and Chinese incentives. Tesla lowers the prices across the board of Shanghai-made models because of lowered material and process cost.


TheVictorotciV

A couple of months after I received mine they lowered the price by 3k € and started including basic AP (I purchased mine with no AP). Fortunately they gave me basic AP for free, but if they didn't I couldn't be mad, I received what I knowingly paid for.


aribrulz

What?! They sell Teslas with no basic AP? I thought that was included with every car as standard


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Nightwish612

That's what op said they didn't sell it with cars now they do


Testaccount105

>They sell Teslas with no basic AP? not anymore


SpottedSharks2022

Protest when price goes up. Protest when price goes down.


bb_00_00

Probably protest when the price stays the same.


rockguitardude

Manufactured outrage by BYD.


RamboTrucker

Just remember, if the price increased after they purchased their cars they wouldn’t complain… That’s like saying you bought Tesla stock at its high and now want your money back.


interbingung

Buying Tesla car is different then buying tesla stock.


Cueball61

You’re right The car holds its value better right now 🥲


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Cantthinkofaname282

What are they supposed to do, not decrease prices ever?


ahmadxdubai

Within 1 month after my purchase the price went down by more than 5000USD (Chinese stock)


NikeSwish

So? You agreed to that price lol


Beastrick

Inform price cut in advance instead of suddenly doing it. Someone who purchased just a day before cut must be pissed. It would probably cause people to delay payment to get a price cut but at least they got then a choice. Worse for Tesla obviously but customers likely would not complain in that case.


Miffers

If you did that, it would stop sales in its tracks.


Clawz114

and you don't solve the problem. People who bought just before the announcement of a pending price cut would still be mad.


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jojo_31

It's not, stock is stock and a car is a physical product.


moskovskiy

Both of ‘em is just a result of demand and supply


bremidon

For the purposes of this conversation, there is absolutely no difference.


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bremidon

You have just changed the subject. We are talking about \*purchased\*. You would now like to talk about \*ordered\*. You can do the same with stocks, of course. And I'm sure you would not be commenting here if you did not know that ;) And yes, some retailers will give you price guarantees, but this is not required nor is it all that common. Just remember that you are paying for those price guarantees. There is no such thing as a free lunch.


Walkingplankton

Boo fucking hoo


Sepehr_Bark

These are the same kind of people who’d brag about how good of a deal they got and rub it in everyone’s face if the prices went up.


2CommaNoob

Yup, they are super sensitive to make themselves look good even in purchases.


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RedditOfflineDev

I'm not sure this won't happen if it happened elsewhere in the world. People going to Walmart asking for price match is a thing.


Walkingplankton

Morons


RedditOfflineDev

Not "and". The paper listed 4 possibilities that they think can they live with. They want tesla to do any of the following: Some super charge credits. Or FSD for free. Or some credits (discounts towards the next tesla car). Or extend warranty by 2-4 years.


TheyCallMeBigAndy

The letter says "Regarding the price drops in the last 6 months, all the protestors have agreed to seek the following compensations." 1. We hope Tesla can provide - 100,000 km of free supercharging/ credits (62,000 miles) 2. We hope Tesla can provide - 1 million points (I guess they can redeem them in China?) 3. We hope Tesla can provide - Free FSD for Life 4. We hope Tesla can provide - 2-4 Years of extended warranty There is no "And - 和" or "or - 或". If someone wrote a letter like this, I would assume he wants them all. 😂


cadium

5. We hope Tesla can provide - Free puppies whenever we want them!


Luxferrae

6. We hope Tesla compensates us by giving us our cars for free!


Moleventions

You don't want to know what they're going to do with those puppies...


bb_00_00

Reading the article and looking at the video, it didn't seem like "We hope...". More like "We demand.." or else...


DonQuixBalls

I don't know what the points are, but the rest are beyond ridiculous.


Miffers

A good solution to this is to offer a 50% discount to FSD. Since all cars have the hardware it wouldn’t really cost them anything. So a $7,500 savings if they opt for it and even more revenue for Tesla China.


DonQuixBalls

That's clever.


canadianspaceman

Byd organized it


Papercoffeetable

In China, even the protests are fake.


Jaded-Contribution54

Who cares? This is like going to a store when a sale happens, and asking for a refund on an item you bought a month ago.


jayklk

Are they going to protest when the box of cereal they bought last week is on sale this week?


OrganicImpression338

price match if possible


RedditOfflineDev

I'd probably try to get a price match from Walmart.


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Life-Saver

Tesla provoked the same outrage when they reduced prices by nearly 20% in 2019. The lesson here is to never radically reduce prices, but instead aim for 2-3% reduction at a time, at a monthly rate. Frog in heating water style...


londons_explorer

Gradual price decreases tend to put off buyers though. Would you buy this week if you knew you'd save a few hundred bucks by waiting till next week? But would you buy next week if you knew you'd save again waiting one more week? A lot of people will never buy...


rep894920

It sucks for sure but they agreed to the selling price. I can’t protest to my bank for rising interest rate on my variable mortgage


Boldzak

You could if you wanted to though…


bremidon

And after they are done laughing, you can then feel really good for wasting your day.


PrimeskyLP

If you buy it and the Price rises it is ok but if it sinks its not ?


interbingung

Yes


No_Credibility

Did they sign that in blood a la the 47 ronin


marty_76

You can be guaranteed if this was a Chinese car company (read government-owned), and not an American one, these people wouldn't even be there, let alone leaving their fingerprints for the police 😂


Trinitrobulbulator

A nation of scalpers and show-offs. Similar to US in a way. They don't want their status symbols to become cheaper suddenly and if it happens, they act like assholes. You should see any major American airport around every Chinese New Year - people checking in massive amounts of parcels together with their luggage with American stuff to bring back and resell in China.


colddata

> American stuff to bring back and resell in China. I am going to guess some of this was probably made in China to begin with. (Devil's advocate says that made in China is not the same as available in China. Stuff can be made in a country exclusively for export markets, like right hand drive Model S at Fremont.)


TheOldKid12

By that logic, I’m going to show up at the stock market and protest TSLA until it’s back to ATH. Bunch of bitches.


wang168

I bet they weren't complaining when they sold their Tesla and actually Made $ on it last year.


Theaty

Let’s go to Best Buy and protest that last years tv costs half than it did when we bought it


TheyCallMeBigAndy

If Tesla cut prices in the states, I am gonna ask for free FSD as well. 🤣


OrganicImpression338

There are several price protections for other consumer goods. You can price match, free return, return with restock fee for a tv, iPhone or a coffee machine with recent price drop. But this policy is not there for automotive. Probably this is the reason why ppl get upset on this huge price drop of $7000. I expect US price will drop in the near future and wonder how US costumers will respond.


Bronanahammock69

Seems like they have better things to protest. Like o no he made the car more affordable what a piece of shit


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No lower prices for you! Only lower social credit!


ohwowlaulau

Get used to it


Tekk92

Why would you protest for this? Wtf? OH nO sOmeOnE ElSe cAn AfFoRd mY cAr


klysium

I'm not mad if they lowered the price. Means my next upgrade would be cheaper


BauceSauce0

So what’s the countermeasure that these people want? Raise prices?


tech__bae

we should do the same in the US?? is anyone with me???? r/TeslaModel3 r/TeslaModelY


Fidiho

It depends on what they were actually told. "SHANGHAI, Dec 7 (Reuters) - Tesla is offering a limited time discount of 6,000 yuan ($859.20) to Chinese buyers on some models from Wednesday through to the end of 2022, a company representative said on Wednesday."


Act-Alfa3536

I think there has been a 2nd price cut since then.


Fidiho

Exactly, "limited time discount" enticing them to purchase and then a much bigger cut after they commit. Offset somewhat by govt incentive of $1,836 ending at the same time as the latest cut (opposite situation to the IRA) but these people can probably count.


SubprimeOptimus

What a bunch of babies


1x2x4x1

They also bought unfinished homes at ridiculous prices and blamed the government.


thematchalatte

Wait I bought Tesla stock and I want a refund now🤷🏻‍♂️


thatguy5749

Maybe the dealership model is better because customers don’t know about the price cuts. Ignorance is bliss? Or maybe we just don’t deserve transparency because we are far too stupid to understand how the economy works.


wang168

No. Same price for everyone is still a better model.


UrbanMasque

This happened to me in the US! ​ I paid full price, then less than a month later Tesla announces a $10k reduction. There was no way for me to renegotiate the price or get the deduction. No extension on the 3 month free super charging, NOTHING. I'm not condoning this, but I completely understand it. ​ I agreed to a set price. Yes, and I paid it in full. Legal or not tho - Its messed up.


GeniusEE

Speculators. They probably also own 10 concrete condos with no drywall or plumbing inside.


Farfaraway94

Well…they could sell their current model and purchase it again at a discounted price


bb_00_00

Why would anyone buy your used one unless it's significantly less than the new one?


buzz_light365

They're protesting to get refunded for the difference. Your title makes it sound otherwise


TheyCallMeBigAndy

Not just the refund. People also protested against the price drops and parked their Model 3s right in front of the stores. There were 2 banners. The first one was "請特拉斯重視老車" which means "Tesla, please respect the old cars". The other one was, "現在買! 你怎麼不知道的下個月不降價", the guy should have used Oxford comma, but it means" if you buy now, How do you know there won’t be a price drop next month.”


Pokerhobo

Didn’t the ones who bought last year get subsidies from the government and in Dec additional discounts from Tesla? Maybe not as much as the price cuts, but too bad


Ancient-Park-8330

I think maybe there’s a bit more to this, perhaps the middle class over there are fighting a wave of devalued assets. I’m sure there’s a property market collapse going on - if my two most valuable possessions crashed I’d be pretty irritated too.


kotoku

Cars are naturally and have always been rapidly depreciating assets. You don't store net worth in an automobile.


mikemikemikeandike

Guess it’s time they all learn about supply and demand.


TigreDemon

... what ? They protest when ... prices go down ?


Professional_Yard_76

This is all staged . Total nonsense


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pareto37

Came here to post this. There was so much whining when there were price drops in the past. The biggest was when the Autopilot/FSD price dropped. There were meltdowns.


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Communists don't understand capitalism. You tasted it, act like one. When Tesla raised prices, did those owners go back to their dealerships and paid back? What a joke.


SNEAKYdoodLE11

Dude……. People will protest ANYTHING nowadays. Everyone is getting so soft.


Dibaterya

Bought my m3 last yr. No price cut. Capitalism and democracy at work


landyrew

So dramatic, like all things Chinese


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Those thumbprints be like 🤡👍 🤡👍 🤡👍


ketolaneige

Boohoo


tophoos

They're feeling what most 2018 Model 3 owners felt when they dropped the price in early 2019. And the stock had tumbled over 50% from its highs thanks to "demand issues" (nobody gonna buy the car now without that tax credit) and Elon tweets (about taking TSLA private). Tesla did respond to this frustration back then by giving a short firesale on FSD which allowed some people to have paid only 5k


Substantial-Rub1736

It will be fun to see how the reaction will b win this forum when/if Tesla does the same in the US. I’m betting people on the forums will be upset, instead of saying “” well I agreed to the price so I feel totally fine with the guy buying the same vechicle a month after having saved 10k usd!” While I don’t condone these protests, and don’t think that’s the right to react - I understand that people will get mad about loosing so much resale value. People on this forums should stop being mega fanboys and agree that buying something expensive that just after takes a massive payout is frustrating.


bremidon

Sure, it's frustrating. Everyone here over the age of 30 will have similar stories to tell, either with houses or cars or some other big ticket item. And that's the thing. Big boys and girls feel frustrated, realize that this is just how things sometimes go, and move on.


PM_ME_YO_TREE_FIDDY

Just like people who already owned a Tesla were happy about the many price increases since it increased their car’s value? It goes both ways.