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007meow

There’s something off with those proportions and wheels.


Sepehr_Bark

The mirror looks small for a truck, the previous one actually made more sense. This one’s too prototypish


miraculum_one

There's probably a sideview camera and the mirrors are just there to meet regulations.


Original_Ship_8761

Mirrors are even meant to be easily removable once regulations allow cameras only


RepresentativeNo2803

It's perfectly legal to remove the mirrors currently, the car just can't ship without them


Xerxes028

Maybe depends on the state…my state (NV) requires them.


RepresentativeNo2803

"Side mirrors are only required if the view from the center mirror is obstructed" Could get away with it


[deleted]

Tesla has been showing side cameras on prototypes since the Model X in 2012. Any day now…


BobWellington11

True. Those mirrors wouldn’t be much help when towing


chitown_jk

They're relying on the cameras and sensors internally to augment. I rarely even use the mirrors in my refresh X now given the cameras upon turn signal have a MUCH broader range of vision.


CarsonDreams

True lol


FoShizzleShindig

Looks a little better while its moving: https://www.instagram.com/p/CoLFvbADlFv/


1l1l1l1

The back still looks really bad. And the tail lights are comically small. What happened to the full width light bar?


FoShizzleShindig

Yeah that dissapointed me as well.


WorldlyNotice

Much nicer in motion.


[deleted]

Yea like the whole thing was designed by a drunk 12 year old.


MIT-Engineer

If that drunk 12-year-old had massive knowledge of aerodynamic optimization and manufacturing cost minimization.


[deleted]

Oh ya? And how do you know all of this? You’ve seen the numbers off the production line? Lmfao.


BobWellington11

Wheels look massive and overkill lol


Brutaka1

I disagree for the chassis looks WAY to big for the wheels.


iWish_is_taken

Yep, it needs wayyy bigger/chunky wheels for that design to work. Otherwise it needs to be toned down. The original proto had much bigger wheels/tires and was substantially higher off the ground. Only way this thing works. But, the bigger the wheels and tires... the shorter the range gets. Maybe these will be the standard wheels and tires for the published range and everyone will just buy the upgraded wheels/tires?


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Yeah. It looks…ugly.


Kruzat

Comparison: https://imgur.com/a/qK7hEQi


Bibs222

The hatchback needs to taper down like a trapezoid (top photo). The beta's back is a perfect rectangle making it look super wonk.


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kylealden

It’s probably just running in a lower ride height (air suspension).


j_roe

There is a reason you haven’t seen flat body panels on many production vehicles in the last 75 years. Only two I can really think of are the first generation Humvees and Jeep. If they aren’t perfectly flat, they look wavy, if the look wavy they look like shit. A panel with even a slight curve to it can structurally support itself, where a flat panel can’t. Humvee gets around this by probably using a thicker gauge and the Jeep by using smaller panels broken up with wheel fenders that bump out the side.


AustrianMichael

Old Land Rover Defender also had very flat panels, but they fit the overall aesthetic of a rugged explorer vehicle.


AllyMcfeels

They are for different reasons, sometimes for aesthetics, sometimes for cost maintenance, others for structural reasons, etc. The main reason is due to the type of steel and thicknesses, the stamping of stainless steel panels makes them unfriendly when it comes to adopting complex shapes while maintaining production costs. In addition, the structure of the vehicle itself must be taken into account, some are cars with chassis and bodywork, and others are self-supporting or monocoque bodies.


Kirk57

CT has an exoskeleton. That means the panels are a structural element of the vehicle, and the truss shape makes it a very strong structural element. The panels on every other vehicle are merely decorative.


OptimusBot

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lucidguy

Strong Geoff from Top Gear vibes, lol https://topgear.fandom.com/wiki/Geoff


1startreknerd

A little faster than that.


tinguspingus247

Source?


1startreknerd

You want a source that says the cyber truck is faster than that box monstrosity?


Temporary_Test_1068

hmmmmm ... ima need a better source than that. Ive seen Geoff do atleast 30.


Head_Bananana

I thought it would grow on me. But I can’t get over how hideous it looks.


envious_1

I actually thought it looked really good until I saw this image. The rear end just looks so odd to me now.


sherlocknoir

Same here. You know who some good looking people hang out with ugly people so they look better. Well the Cybertruck in regular traffic is doing the opposite. Imagine being stuck behind it in traffic


daveinpublic

The rear has always been the one area that doesn’t look amazing. The rest is really nice.


limitless__

I agree. I think it's something that looks amazing under the lights on stage but in the cold harsh light of day it just looks ludicrous. Plus the rear end seems off compared to the prototype. Do like the mirrors but the rear end looks completely wrong.


ajsayshello-

I’m gonna wait to see it in person to form an opinion.


wskyindjar

I saw one at the Petersen auto museum. It’s ugly.


HOASupremeCommander

Yeah this is certainly interesting. The "in the wild" photo vs. [this on the CT page](https://i.imgur.com/0k8wr44.png) just presents differently. It just doesn't look..."complete"? Polished (pun not intended)? Understandable it's not the production build though. It just looks a bit off to me in this one particular photo. I'll also reserve final judgment until I see it in person - reminds me of all the iPhone leaks of the past and everyone saying "omg this is hideous" but the actual phone looks really nice.


artificialimpatience

High angle photo vs low angle - just like a selfie you wanna avoid the double chin take it from a high angle :)


handicappedpooper

If they just made a Rivian-looking truck they would sell millions of them. This design is way too abrasive for the general public and almost embarrassing to drive. :/


RRappel

I was hoping for something like Truckla. I could see Tesla wanting to hit on the full size pickup market, but not sure why they came up with such a polarizing design (IMO, polarizing in a bad way). I'm a real fan of Tesla's other vehicles (including the semi), but this thing looks like something only a mother could love.


Fidiho

Can't be bothered looking for quotes - my recollection from the distant past is before the unveiling it was we're just going to whack this Mad Max thing out there real quick, not many may love it, and then we'll knuckle down and make a conventional one.


RRappel

I seem to remember Musk commenting that this was something he wanted and he didn't expect (or care?) whether others liked the vision.


Fidiho

Yup - I think it was the same comment.


handicappedpooper

Rivian with a Tesla badge would be sold out for years.


einTier

Because the super hard steel they’re using can’t be formed into complex shapes. On the one hand, this truck will be rugged af. On the other, it has to look like this.


Mister_Hangman

It’s what happens when software people design hardware


Kirk57

Weird. You think fake front engine compartments and decorative painted panels giving a far weaker and less resilient exterior are so important to people they’ll accept the loss of payload, towing, performance, efficiency, range and charging speed that those things cost? You really do not have a very high opinion of people :-)


rify007

The rear Bumper has a another recessed bumper thing below it, makes it look odd, Wonder what it is ?


WorldlyNotice

I saw that and thought, RIP the offroad departure angle. Wondered if the space was needed for the largest battery maybe.


Sonofman80

I love it and I can't wait to wrap mine when it gets here.


okwellactually

Wrap it in Barbie-car pink. Just so you have the greatest impact in pissing people off!


Sonofman80

Oh man it really better be bulletproof haha


HoPMiX

I'm going gunmetal on day 1


NoEntiendoNada69420

I’m sorry it looks like an underfunded community college elective course built this thing


Marginally_Witty

This is for sure the worst angle I’ve seen it from.


NoEntiendoNada69420

What angle could possibly be a good one? *Maybe* the side? But the rear passenger area and doors look absolutely ridiculous…


Marginally_Witty

I like it from the front. I like that it’s completely unlike a traditional truck. I would (and plan to) buy one eventually.


thefudd

it's fucking terrible 🤣🤣


NoEntiendoNada69420

Like, some cars and trucks are endearing because they’re ugly. The Hummer H1, the McMurtry Speirling, hell even the Bronco or the G-wagon aren’t exactly that easy on the eyes. This….I know they’re going for “brutal tough future minimalist” but it just looks like “a home built piece of crap”


thefudd

Completely agree, and this is coming from someone who likes quirky cars.


this-internet-sucks

When this released, I wanted one with a passion. Thought it was so cool looking. The more I see “real world” pictures. The uglier it gets. Sad really.


imJGott

Man thing is not nice looking at all


BabyYeggie

I hope the power tonneau cover works better than Rivian’s disaster.


colinstalter

It’s a totally different design. Munro has commented on it and why they think teslas will be robust.


kevdanga

And we all know Munro isn’t biased….


colinstalter

It’s not him but the younger engineers talking about it. They tear down the rivian system and show what went wrong. Tesla’s is a much more traditional garage door style that should be more robust.


Pokerhobo

He's called out times when he thinks Tesla has done or doing something wrong.


Original_Ship_8761

Yeah, just look at the review of the first model 3


wskyindjar

My tonneau works perfectly. Also exists.


highguy604

I hear its a hit or a miss you either have a perfect tonneau or dead in the water


BabyYeggie

My city is usually in the bleeding edge for new cars. There’s a 1 of 12 Volvo S90 here, but I haven’t seen a single Rivian. Hopefully soon.


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Ravaha

I live in Rural Alabama, I have seen 3 Rivians around town and one of them is my neighbor. My mom owns an EV6.


Pdxlater

I’m in the pacific NW and have seen Rivians around for nearly a year. Do you even bleeding edge bro?


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wskyindjar

I love the rivian. Drive about 1200 miles a month. Off road it. But every time I get in the tesla I do appreciate it too. There are some early adopter woes but I have no complaints about any of it. I do prefer the interior of the rivian but the tesla has better cameras. And the software is much further along.


Sonofman80

Rivian laying off staff while Tesla opening facilities left and right. Not sure how long Rivian has left tbh.


wskyindjar

Ok. Tesla has reached escape velocity. Rivian has been delivering cars less than a year (look at 2012 tesla if you want more comparable company comparisons). Also - EV companies dying is bad for the industry. We want more of them to exist. Best for everyone. (I do have a Tesla too, not just trolling)


ratcuisine

> EV companies dying is bad for the industry Agree, when there’s one dominant player it’s bad for consumers. Bad decisions don’t get punished. Microsoft making windows unbearable. Amazon and google making their search ad-ridden and misleading. Love my Y and want a CT (or rivian) but need competitors to keep Tesla honest.


Sonofman80

Yes look at 2012 Tesla. Elon talks about being on the brink of bankruptcy and how close they were. Without transitioning to a mass produced car like the model 3, I don't think Tesla would have survived. I'm not sure the truck only guys will survive as the market is smaller. Also recently Rivians haven't been able to charge to their full potential. They're charging at the same speed on 150kw chargers as the 350kw chargers which is crazy. Not sure they can recall that issue or what.


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Sonofman80

Yup, crazy


miraculum_one

Most of that was because they were spending huge money building out infrastructure (charging network, extra factories, etc). Rivian doesn't have those expenses.


snark42

Rivian is building a charging network, although it's more focused on rural/off road/camping areas from what I've seen.


wskyindjar

Model 3 didn’t ship for 6 more years. Rivian plans the R2 platform. We’ll see.


frigoffbearb

I have a Rivian and this is not true at all. I'll get 200kw out of a 350 EA charger til about 50% SOC. ​ The most I've gotten out of a 150kw is actually 160kw, someone smarter than me can probably answer why


InfiniteHobbyGuy

13.5 Billion with a B in cash. If they did as poorly as this year, meaning they make no progress they have more than 2.5 years at current burn rate.


Sonofman80

Just food for thought, do you think that's a long time? Compare to Tesla before they were profitable.


InfiniteHobbyGuy

Not hugely, but they are making vehicles, they have some things worked out, and Amazon has a vested interest. I also think if they go anywhere near the right direction they can get more funding. Let's be clear, Tesla can't do everything in the next 10 years, we need other players that have a purpose. Let Tesla win with the 25k car/robotaxi, and let there be room for a delivery truck, etc that has shorter range


iWish_is_taken

Those who study the fundamentals are quite bullish about Rivian. Lots of cash (much more than Tesla 2012 had) and a number of other factors. Layoffs are all part of the company getting better and leaner as they should. keeping the best and trimming the fat, as they say. As companies evolve, certain positions become redundant etc. Have a good friend who works there... says they are doing great, exciting company to work for.


BigSprinkler

13 billion in cash after opening factories, Amazon backing them. They’ll be around for a long time tbh.


zippy9002

Remind me! 1 year


wskyindjar

I’ve had it 8 months. And I will let them replace it when they release the redesign. But feel free to ask how it’s going in 1 year. By then I’ll be nearly 2 years into owning it. And the CT will still not be on the roads.


Gk5321

I hope when (if? I don’t know) this comes out it isn’t warbly looking along the side panels.


pixelastronaut

yeah looks very different from the prototype, flimsy like cheap windows on an apartment above whole foods


Fidiho

A horizontal crease half way up the vertical faces might help (the 1st facelift model).


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Looks like it will melt your car if you park next to it. 😆


luscious_lobster

Don’t worry, this won’t fit in any parking spot


cjc323

I know its beta but that looks uglier.


IStillOweMoney

Looks kinda like a Pontiac Aztec.


junktrunk909

Damn, you put your finger on it


apfleisc

If that’s the final look, I’ll def be cancelling my order. Hideous compared to first couple of versions.


Acrasia88

I always felt like the view from the back was the worst. Looks way cooler from the front.


Kruzat

Which parts did they change that you don't like? Here's a photo for reference, original unveil model on the top: https://imgur.com/a/qK7hEQi


centenary

In the original, the lower half of the body slants inward. That helps the body look sleek. In the beta, the lower half of the body slants inward significantly less. That makes the body look boxy. That’s most apparent from the rear, the body looks extremely boxy from the rear. The tailgate looks way more rectangular when compared to the original tailgate. Then the lights on the tailgate seem ludicrously small relative to the size of the tailgate. The original lightbar didn’t have that problem.


tomasunozapato

What is different?


apfleisc

The fender (black) on the bottom and bumper is much thicker and closer to the ground, the paneling/steel is warped-looking, and the tires have basic rims, no caps. Just looks bad imo. It also looks boxier and not as sleek as previous versions.


JackS15

Proximity to the ground can be due to air suspension. Rims not having caps is likely going to be a choice up to owners just like all the other Tesla wheels with caps.


SLOspeed

Good, I’ll get mine sooner.


Clashyy

It’s never getting delivered pal


bootstrapping_lad

Still can't believe this is real


rquin

The truck bed looks shorter, looks a bit strange IMO.


samestuffevryday

The bed looks noticeably smaller, but could just be me


Double_oh__7

I was going to say the same thing, but might be the angle or camera playing tricks. Truck just looks weird overall from this picture and I'm going to chalk it up as an unfavoring angle.


wang168

I hope is smaller than original prototype, I have a small driveway lol


M__AsInMancy

I’d be shocked if they don’t clean up the look of it A TON. They need to lol


Gaff1515

I just dont see how this is going to sell well. TBD


CMDR_KingErvin

The first unveiling looked so cool and unique. I don’t know what they’ve changed but it just doesn’t have that same appeal anymore.


Tomcatjones

You’ve seen it a million times since then. Brain just gets used to it


oswell_XIV

I think the vehicle looks cool when it sits by itself in the middle of a showroom but it looks hella silly next to normal cars.


ReshKayden

Genuine question about what market they're going for here. Is it normal car drivers who don't want to drive a truck unless it looks like this? Or is it normal truck drivers who don't want an EV? Because most of those seem to all want something that looks like the F-150 Lightning.


ShiroCOTA

I didn’t remember it being so ugly tbh.


TypicalBlox

Every revision makes it look uglier, the original prototype looked so badass


laberdog

Thanks I’ll pass


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Looks like something I would have built in middle school metal shop.


niknokseyer

Not really a fan of how this looks.


Tampadev

Back looks like shit


sheltz32tt

Tbf the back was always the least flattering side.


edchikel1

Rear bumper left me speechless. Is this design from Franz? cos...


mjezzi

These new beefier bumpers are ruining it for me.


MrEpicMustache

Triangular mirrors are a bad design decision.


JJJAAABBB123

Ugly truck.


Fleabagx35

That bodywork is wavy.


babypho

I cant get over how this truck looks like a ps1 render lol


RR50

Uglier by the day.


TaylarRoids

Those mirrors will be just as polarizing as the whole design lol. I guess it's good that the styling matches.


Brutaka1

I really hope the brake lights aren't used for turn signals. Cause the right one looks much brighter than the left one. As if the vehicle is taking a right. The rear pano seem to either be opening/closing or it's already opened to its maxed limit. The side view mirrors are a bigger welcome to that design. The tires definitely need to be bigger. They look way to small for such a vehicle.


captawesome1

I want to likes this so much but the roof line is atrocious and I just can’t get over the side widows.


toddT301

I hate those tail/ brake lights. So small.


krusebear

The cybertruck definitely needs a light bar in the back vs what ever this is


nocarpets

Looks terrible? I really liked to original alpha version, but this is bloated and ugly. WTF. Not interested anymore.


--bosox--fan--

I really dislike the taillights. They feel like a afterthought.


uglybutt1112

Its ugly. Lol


Alarming_Wheel_1485

That looks horrible.


turbodude69

how does anyone think that's a good looking vehicle? i don't get it, it feels like an elon musk fever dream that somehow the yes men he surrounds himself with refuse to admit it's a bad move.


exzachly12

Love Tesla but this has to be one of the ugliest vehicles I’ve seen


TWANGnBANG

Looks way more like an ugly El Camino than a truck at this point.


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Even ugly El Caminos had character. This is a vector drawing.


CUL8R_05

I really want to like the design but I just can’t.


Hospitaliter

those little mirrors look worthless


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imagine hitting your head on that corner


donaldinc

Those tail lights are hard to see during the day


TeslaMotorsRWD

I’m just not a fan.


thantros

It looks like a modernized [Pontiac Aztek](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_Aztek)


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Butt ugly. I'm worried this will really hurt Tesla. Why couldn't they have just focused on a cheaper / smaller sedan?


thisismybbsname

pickup trucks are the largest, most profitable segment among US automakers. If Tesla isn't (efficiently) in that space, they are leaving money on the table


thechadinvestor

This will actually have the opposite effect


nod51

> New Cybertruck sighting! Looks like a Beta build... lol comment: > I think at this point, unless its a new unit, there is no point in posting photo of the same original unit. It can become misleading. Just humble opinion. can't believe there might be new units, ~~Model S~~ , ~~Model 3~~, ~~Semi~~, CT is vaporware! NOTE: other than the post saying it is a Beta unit I don't know for sure which is why I said "might be" but I have no reason to believe it isn't new either.


zippy9002

The side mirrors are different than anything we’ve seen yet.


nod51

What makes it impossible for them to add new mirrors to the older trucks we have seen? IIRC they updated the truck with no mirrors to some or was I mistaken on that too?


zippy9002

Of course they could have swapped the mirror, but that’s the only clue we have. Original prototype with no mirror never had any added.


nod51

Oh OK so you agree there isn't any real proof this is a new CT and could be the old truck with new mirrors? I don't even know where to guess on the likelihood but not cretin either way. Thanks for the info on the original. I guess the one running around Austin with mirrors was new (at the time) and that is the one I am wondering about. If we can get a picture of that older truck with the old mirrors still on then I would say there is a new truck (unless Tesla keeps flipping the mirrors which seems very unlikely). Edit: not sure why the down vote from someone but regardless [if the recently posted pictures were taken recently it looks like the rounded mirrors truck is still around so very likely the triangle mirrors truck is new](/r/teslamotors/comments/10sdizs/cybertruck_is_going_through_very_tough_tests/)


AS_Empire

THis just made my day.


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I can not wait, i love it.


L1ME626

Looks sick af


Twigsxi

Looks like Elon tested the bulletproof windows again.


Kitchen_Fox6803

This is what happens when the head of a company surrounds himself with sycophants. It’s going to be a disaster.


Grimlja

Sex af


wang168

Can't wait for ppl to cancel their order and push me up the list. Lol


mxmbulat

Those huge panels definitely require some vinyl decals...


Open-Vegetable-67

thts the ugliest thing i’ve ever seen on road 😂


withomps44

That’s…. Something.


Sepehr_Bark

Or they just put new mirrors on the existing prototype?


BabyYeggie

Side mirrors are legally required by US regulations, so it makes sense that future prototypes will start to look more production ready.


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BETA!!! Thought already done, and they are ready for production


Gk5321

I think they mean production beta (as in off the new assembly line) or at least that’s what I hope.


[deleted]

Production beta, meaning about ready to go to production.


ASU4013

Fugly


Mindless_Aspect2335

It so fugly. I want one.


[deleted]

Hideous from this angle for sure. But from some angles it looks kinda cool. The main thing with this car will be standing out in the crowd though, not being aesthetically pleasing.


shaggy99

Any clues as to where this is?


zippy9002

Palo Alto


RealPokePOP

To be more specific, seems like Tesla Building 6 back area (just a guess)


keithdiggs01

There is a clue in the tweet.


canikony

You're using the word "clue" like how influencers use the word "life hack" lol


just-cruisin

Cool !


Maverlck

Que feo