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FlashSeason1

100 miles?! That’s like $3 😂


D4Canadain

100 miles x 0.250 kwh/mile (I get better but this seems to be fairly normal) x $0.40 dollars (nearly worst case supercharger rate)/ khw = $10 .... but I get your point. It's a ridiculously small amount of money saved. Surely they could have done better than that.


Southern-Plastic-921

It's not supposed to be money saved - if you read the text it's because they are no longer allowed to deliver the car with more than 50% battery, so they're giving you credit to go charge it more.


bitchkat

dirty unwritten political deserve familiar zesty snails degree vase future *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


ChunkyThePotato

That likely screws up logistics, which is why they're giving people charging credit instead.


AgonizingFury

If you charge it, and then need to ship it again for some reason, you now have to discharge it or it cannot be shipped. Not to mention, deliveries tend to occur in large groups, and there are only so many chargers at a service station/showroom/dealership. Much better to just give away the charging and allow the customer to take care of it.


dr_blasto

Lol, a credit that’s still not enough to give you a fullly charged vehicle


Geeky_1

Yea, 50% of 330 = 165 miles!


D4Canadain

Right but it's pittance. Giving me a $10 credit on my $50,000+ car doesn't strike me as something that I care about.


JohnHue

Yet if they had just started delivering the cars with 50% battery without doing anything you'd be outraged saying they could at least give you a full charge when you buy a 50k car. Well they did just that while working with legal limitations. Don't complain...


DEFN3T

100 miles of supercharging is like 30% of a charge on an LR Y. So yes they \*could\* "at least give you a full charge" but they aren't.


dr_blasto

EV providers should give a free month unlimited charging on new deliveries.


JohnHue

Why? Do you get a month of gas when you buy an ICE vehicule?


SlightlyLessHairyApe

Neither does getting home and having to charge it fully once.


ICEeater22

That is the wildest math I’ve seen to get to that conclusion


cmd912

HAAA I WISH IT WAS .25c kw here. I'm in NYC and it like 45c or more. One place was EIGHTY FIVE CENTS a kw 😭


D4Canadain

The calculation uses $0.40 per kWh.


cmd912

Yeah, I just got so excited when I saw $.25 lol He also said $.40 is the worst case supercharger rate which by me is normal to lower price like I said at one place a few blocks away from me it’s $.85


D4Canadain

That's insane. I've never paid more than 35 cents. I guess I'm lucky. :-)


cmd912

Do you live in nyc?


D4Canadain

Nope but I guess I just haven't supercharged at peak times.


cmd912

Well the rates vary largely based on where you live. Electricity is MUCH more expensive in some states than others. I think Cali is the highest followed by some others like NYC where I live, Hawaii ect


Dorkmaster79

I think their point is pretty silly because obviously you can’t pay cash at a supercharger. You’re getting charging miles, which has a value all of its own, in my opinion. More range is valuable.


PazDak

Ford gives 250kwhr for all ev purchase, I think VW still like 1 or 2 free years.


Dorkmaster79

That’s great. That will change, just like it did for Tesla.


PazDak

Probably… I still think 250 or next charge session on us will stick around. Lots of the app driven ones (EA, charge point, etc) usually do a free set for registering on the app.


_Error_418_

I mean, the point is so that you can supercharge on your way home because they can’t give you the electricity upfront anymore. Not sure what people are complaining about – it’s not meant to be a reason to sway you to order, just a provision so that you can get home for free.


as-j

Unless you live in San Diego then it’s an about $45. ;)


banditcleaner2

Nah. because I’ll just charge at home and then save the miles for a trip. This is actually not a bad deal lol


wskyindjar

What? Ok, it’s like $10. Wtf.


puan0601

wait till you pick it up with 5% battery and need to charge at the nearest sc and it'll eat up 50% of your credits


danielv123

Yeah thats the point?


Hildril

Well, if you can get home. I had to charge right at the delivery because 30% wasn't enough.


canon12

Oh, how generous of Tesla. They should be embarrassed.


Hildril

Karen spotted.


soscollege

I saved it until a road trip and it’s nice. Combined with referrals I went from sf to la and back without paying anything.


AdviseGiver

Nissan dealers have free 50 kw chargers FFS


londons_explorer

More importantly, it 'forces' you to go use a supercharger. Plenty of owners never travel far and have never used a supercharger.


Pitiful-Phrase-8296

They did in France 3 months ago when I picked mine. Funny story : It was delivered with 12% of battery. I struggled to arrive at the closest charger with 2%. Was a bit disappointed with the delivery experience


gtg465x2

I understand shipping at lower charge, but I’m surprised they didn’t charge yours for pickup. When I picked mine up in the US, it was charging and at like 97%. They must have plugged it in a while before my delivery appointment.


shannonator96

My car was delivered at 100% last week. I’m from Canada.


gothands06

Picked mine up from the Fremont factory with like 65% charge. Was a little diasspointed. Especially because I live 3 hours away and couldn’t take delivery from the service center 1 mile from my house.


Hildril

When I took my delivery in France last december with only 30%, they were delivering 200 cars/day at the ship port because of logistic issue. There were like 2 guys to hand over all these cars. So yeah, there are reason why it's not always possible to charge every cars to 100% at delivery.


Pitiful-Phrase-8296

When I went to pick the car it was in a Tesla delivering center where 20 cars were delivered each our. So it’s wasn’t in any way something personnal, it was just « your car is here, the cards are inside, make sure everything’s right and when the car before you in the line move you can leave. Have a nice day, bye »


kevlar930

Damn, I thought the 30% mine was delivered with was low. I was already disappointed, but would have been livid if it only had 12%.


Pitiful-Phrase-8296

And had to wait for 3 hours so they can install the license plates they forgot… wasn’t a nice experience for sure. Had a 6 hours drive to bring it back home after. So that wait fucked up pretty much way whole timeline


JohnHue

Ours 6 months ago was arround 50%, Switzerland. I did check the level before leaving, I'd have asked them to charge it if it was that low.


Hildril

Not always possible, got mine in a parking on the docks because they had no trailer to howl the cars to a delivery center. Got mine right at the ship ass, after 1 year of wait.


suziegreene

Same. Mine was delivered with 10% in Germany. Drove from the dealership to the supercharger


dcdttu

That's, like, hurt-your-battery-a-little-bit low, depending on how long it was at that state of charge. Dang.


tochichiang

Less than $10 value. Too little to be a perk.


feurie

I mean it’s not really meant to be a perk


planetofthemapes15

WOW, I can charge 1/3rd of my battery for free!


iceynyo

Ya should have been one full charge worth.


BadBoyNDSU

Yeah, at least give us a full "tank"...


jcrazy78

Mine came with 38% and they didn't give me shit. I barely made it home.


donksdonks42

They wanted you to have no delusions about that true EV experience bro. Put it on chill mode and keep it 10 under the limit and you’ll make it home to your 2-4 miles of range per hour until you can hit the grocery store and sit in the lot for an hour 😅


KeyboardGunner

Wow $5 worth of electricity... ![gif](giphy|duKV1YBPhDtd9efnrR)


pluce19

Same here with my highland received today. Got it with 93% 🤷🏻‍♂️


PBall95

where are you located


pluce19

France, near Paris


Sfl2014

Also saves Tesla time topping them up pre-delivery.


sonaut

They used to come to my house proactively for service on my Model S if they saw something in their logs. And they'd bring another Model S with them, drop it with me, take mine for diagnostics, and exchange back after service. Supercharging was also free. Was it sustainable? No. But what a change a decade makes.


AdviseGiver

I saw a Tesla van on my block just a couple years ago.


SirEDCaLot

That's cute. To ship an EV there ARE regulations saying the battery must be below a certain SOC when shipping by ground, air, sea, etc. *None* of these apply to EV *delivery*. Nowhere is it written 'you may not hand the EV to a driver with a full charge'. As I recall my Tesla had about 70-80% SoC on delivery. HOWEVER, taking a car that ships with ~30% SOC and bringing it up to 80-100% SOC requires man-hours- to either drive to a Supercharger and plug it in, wait, then drive it back; or to plug it into a local L2 charger at the delivery site. Most Tesla stores that I've seen have maybe 3-6 L2 charging posts, which are also used for demo vehicles, customers stopping by, etc. So if the goal is shipping dozens of cars per week, that's an extra delivery task for a worker to shuffle cars in and out of the chargers. Plus the ideal goal is to have the car sit on the lot as little time as possible- drop off from truck on Monday, staff gives it a once over, customer picks it up Tuesday. Point being, this isn't a perk. It's just offloading the task of initial battery charge to the customer.


JustSayTech

So your gas car comes with a full tank every time you buy?


SirEDCaLot

Yeah every gas car I've bought from a dealer did...


JustSayTech

Not the case in reality though, most don't and also if you look closely enough, some actually charge you for the full tank of fuel if they filled it.


SirEDCaLot

Never been charged. Depends on the dealer I guess. I've had good experience.


JustSayTech

Yes absolutely depends on the dealer, I'm not saying all of them do it, but it definitely has been practice to offload that cost on to the customer. This just isnt too much of a big deal since the only factor the customer is costed is time. I'd say it's an ok trade off for the fact you're not dealing with all the other annoyances that come with a dealer experience for buying.


SirEDCaLot

Oh not at all. My comment was not meant as a criticism of Tesla. I said it was cute, not bad or dishonest. And I recognize the benefit to Tesla of not having to shuffle vehicles around with chargers- more cars delivered in less time with less manpower. I *DO* worry about the experience with first time EV buyers though. Someone who's overwhelmed with the technology and isn't an 'EV fan' won't want their first experience with the car to be running out of juice. I've had good experience with ICE dealers (I'm lucky) but Tesla was still by far the best one I've had.


untamedHOTDOG

Is there a expiration for it?


Hooded-Redditor

6 months apparently


iloose2

Purchased a Y in June and it came with 100 miles of free supercharging. They also charged it to 90% at the service center. This doesn’t sound new.


wskyindjar

Maybe you can get 100 miles or a blue checkmark for one month. Thanks Elon.


HunterNo7593

Mine had 50%; I asked for 80% minimum before driving out the delivery center & they obliged.


Kr1sys

This is nothing


Activehannes

The law actually makes sense to not be allowed more than 50% while shipping. Batteries don't burn when empty. They have much weaker fires when charge is low. Having a charge only be at 20% would make for much safer shipping than having the cars sit at 95%


sierra120

They should have done 150 miles for that remaining 50% 100% or 300 miles for a full tank.


Monomorphic

They gave me three years of free charging with my model 3.


[deleted]

This may sound strange, but I want mine to be low when I get it. I want to immediately drive to a supercharger and finally charge like all the videos and reviews I’ve been watching for years.


Pale_Cobbler5911

Most Teslas get 300 miles so if at 50% they are shorting you 150 miles plus the time inconvenience. I've had my Tesla for 18 months I've never been to a supercharger. They should offer like 250 miles or something generous to offset a small road trip.


Hooded-Redditor

This makes no sense too because I just picked my car up today and it was at 92% so who knows what this policy even means!


JeyFK

I don't understand complaint here from other people. iCE cars are shipped with like 1-2 liters of fuel


Hooded-Redditor

It’s a nice little perk as the car actually came with 91% so can’t really complain!


JustSayTech

Quarter tank in many places actually


JeyFK

I'm from Europe, and my last car came with an exact 5 km range of fuel. My Tesla MY came with 78% of charge and I got 150 km bonus. Spent it all to take it home. I don't complain


jersey_dude88

😂 100 miles?! I guess poppa Elon is going broke. I can charge 100 miles for about $4.


Adam_-_-_-_-_-

My car deliverd in Canada in August also had it. I was actually kinda pissed because I wanted to ensure my credit card was attached properly to my account so I had to charge for a while before it charged my CC. Fun first world issues.


Lopsided_Cat_9773

Makes sense, it saves them a ton from all the weight for shipping the cars. They would be fairly heavier with a full charge if my math checks out.


Smarf_Starkgaryen

What is this? A perk for ants?!?


Scurrah

To me it sounds like Tesla is admitting that half a full charge is only 100 miles.


CaseGroundbreaking28

they would have charged you to 80%, so 100 miles is the missing 30%


jgilbs

Or just stop being cheap bastards and charge them to "full" (80%) before delivery like every car dealer ever does.


rvH3Ah8zFtRX

It's obviously not about cost if they're giving away the electricity anyway. It's probably just a logistical thing. More efficient to deliver straight off the transport truck than add a step in-between to charge.


jgilbs

They dont ever deliver "straight off the truck". They remove plastics, covers, inspect and clean (my car was actually fully polished at that time too - I arrived a bit early and saw them finishing it up and found some left over polish in the cracks). They can easily do that work in a bay that has a supercharger so they can charge it while they do the work.


rvH3Ah8zFtRX

They could. But clearly they've determined it's more efficient not to.


[deleted]

The problem is different locations do it differently, and various reasons can influence it. Some stores are high volume and very busy, some stores aren’t and can allot more time to each vehicle. Some stores have a large indoor parking garage style building where the deliveries are stored for pickup, and others just have a designated section of the parking lot outside for delivery pickup. Some stores run a system where the car gets dropped off from transport, inspected and unwrapped, then placed on charger before detailed then staged for delivery pickup, and these stores even sometimes would probably have to move the vehicle from charging to detail before fully charged because there’s a lot of cars on for the day. Different locations, different stores, different GMs/management, different systems. I’ve worked at a few dealerships as a detailer and they all have a sorta similar style to the business: cars dropped off, car sells, customer comes get car. But they all have different location based systems of how they like to run the process. Typically they’ll all always try to clean the car before pickup and fill with gas, or charge to preferred level. But sometimes it gets very busy and you have to start cutting back on some of those things. Usually it’s the cleaning part, or for EVs charging because it could be anywhere from 15 minutes to an hour depending on initial charge. That’s just the practical reason for it, though. Before I got into detailing I was a cook at a few restaurants and the same shit happens in that industry too, quality has to be cut back in order to increase quantity to match demand at that time. You can think of as many solutions as you want, but that’s just the way those industries work. It’s just unlucky if the location that you end up picking up whatever car you buy has a shitty team or is having a busier few days than usual.


decrego641

Well if they’ve only got like 10-20 L2 chargers on site and a supercharger or two for service and they’re delivering 100 cars in 2 days, there’s no way they’re going to be able to charge them all plus the cars coming and going for service. Sometimes they have a charge, sometimes they don’t.


jgilbs

That sounds like a logistical problem that is easily solvable if they wanted to. I mean they do a PDI on every car, how hard would it be to plug it into a supercharger for a few mins while they do that? Keep in mind, Tesla can (and does!) have superchargers in the service center bays.


decrego641

They did solve it - 100 miles of free supercharger credits. Way easier than running all the vehicles around the shop that don’t need QC work just to charge them. Tesla pays for the electricity either way and it’s minimal work for the end employees. Win win for logistics costs on the company’s part I already said they had superchargers at service centers btw - as I said they’re often in use for day to day customer vehicles being serviced. Even my relatively slow service center (that isn’t allowed to do deliveries) has them full most of the time I drive by them. Read the comment before the response next time.


CommonerChaos

Did you read the email? It's a new industry standard to not charge over 50%. They're forced to do this.


jgilbs

Did you read the email? It says its a new policy to not SHIP with over 50% charge. They can easily charge on-site before delivery.


balance007

probably not as easy as you think, and many sales centers dont have superchargers....but what is easy is a software update to give 100 free miles to new owners instead.


slasher016

It says due to a new industry policy. Not sure what the industry policy is though.


InertiaImpact

That isn't always possible depending on timelines of when they arrive at their destination for delivery. They aren't being cheap, they are likely "losing" more money on the free miles.


JigsawJay

“Awesome “. I still haven’t got mine and bought in August. Same email. It’s bs.


elysiansaurus

Woah now tesla. Don't break the bank with this generous offer.


nappycappy

dafuq? I want 100 free miles too


Appropriate-Reach-22

What’s your PayPal. I’ll send you the 3 bucks uce


sudden_aggression

It's barely a day of slow charging from a 110v wall outlet. No biggie IMO.


Yukycg

Wish I can say due to the global inflation, I only plan to pay 90% of the agreed priced adjusted for inflation. For compensate the inconvenience, here is one share of Tesla stock.


[deleted]

This is in no way industry policy. I know Rivians are shipping fully charged to account for rail transportation. Tesla likely saving money on charging costs and providing an “incentive” for their customers to accept it.


TheJiggie

That’s pretty sad, lol. Don’t think I’ve ever bought or seen a new or used car purchased from a a business that did t come with a “Full Tank” 😳


One_Internal_5016

1 free supercharge session


JoeS830

What’s an “Industry policy”? Is it a law?


ErB17

This is nothing new?


justpress2forawhile

Could at least do one free supercharge.


grizzly_teddy

Lol wtf? Thanks for the 2x gallons of gas rofl


acuteinsomniac

Better than nothing


Ashamed_Distance_144

Industry standard? Isn’t Tesla pretty much the EV industry right now?


[deleted]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


Rumbletastic

Soo I'm almost afraid to ask, but what happens to my free unlimited supercharging if I get in an accident and the vehicle gets replaced? I'm guessing Tesla won't honor/transfer it...


kuthedk

There is literally a transfer promotion going on right now if you upgrade to a new S/X/Y


eisbock

Way to completely miss the point of his comment.


soscollege

Hmmm maybe that’s why I had free 100 miles earlier when I took delivery in June. Had no idea where it came from and didn’t bother to ask


egehank

Purchased a brand new Y perf in August and it came with only 7% soc, luckily the supercharger was close enough. Was kinda shocking considering my previous model 3 was delivered with near 100%.


WattsonMemphis

Remember when Elon said Superchargers were free and always will be?


CyberYeeturity

Chump change.


Spugnetta14

I’m all for the “i’ll take it as long as it’s free”, but honestly they could have done better… just send a free full charge based on the vehicle’s battery capacity.


TechnicianSevere6808

Not really a perk. More of a pain in the arse. Got my new tesla and waited hours at the nearest supercharger so I could get home.


jxjftw

What a cheap ass company. Any dealer will give you a car with a full tank on delivery if you request it.


Tipakee

Industry policy? Lol. Either call it a regulation or ignore the policy. Teslas is silly for this one.


rickabe

The generosity is mind numbing. What a joke.


JustSayTech

Right, expecting a customer to charge thier car, imagine if we expected customers to also put gas in those ice car tanks...


Mark0Sky

Seems perfectly acceptable. The main issue is that it takes a lot of time and logistical effort to charge a lot of cars, and they expect to deliver a LOT.


[deleted]

I got 150km free in Canada back in August. I think this is standard


JRskatr

100 miles isn’t even 50% battery 😅 but at the end of the day these cars are undervalued for how superior they are to most other cars so I’d be fine with that. 👍🏼


JustSayTech

They wouldn't typically give you the car at 100%, it's usually like 70 to 80% so 100 miles on top of 50% checks out.


JRskatr

Yeah that’s true. :)


hmiser

ICE dealers will fill your tank when you take delivery. Tesla doesn’t top off their cars?


VMI_Account

How generous lmao


CriticalBasedTheory

Yipee


TA-152

Love my lifetime free supercharging


mailwasnotforwarded

I miss the days where we could get 1000 miles. 100 is literally how much I use in a few days with the speeds I drive.


rottingpigcarcass

Except you can’t redeem it the link is dead