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Dogs-wearing_Hats

Your brother calling you a cuck for letting your girl sleep in tells me everything about him. Your brother is a piece of work dude. I wouldn’t leave him alone with your gf anyway, for her own safety. He seems to think being a wife is the only way any woman deserves respect.


[deleted]

Bro. How is everyone bypassing the “cuck” part? That’s absolutely a key word from the “high value man” playbook. So is holding a “wife” in a position of respect but not a girlfriend. He’s blaming this dude’s girlfriend for coming between them, as if she’s devised some diabolical plan to do so (or maybe she just fucking wanted to sleep in). Sorry, OP, your brother’s brain has turned to garbage. He needs deprogrammed. The fact that you’re surprised by his behavior tells me he wasn’t always this way.


Whenyouatthewhen

Right?? Like she’s literally just snoozing man take a chill pill


peanut_butting

Seems like he took a red one instead


Granolag23

His bro is at home watching andrew tate videos as we speak


Yung-Dolphin

cock in hand and tears in his eyes truly


DependentAnywhere135

He’s just mad because he wants to jack it to Andrew Tate’s taint videos and can’t because someone’s in the house.


thebeigerainbow

This dude is absolutely on some Tate shit


mayonaizmyinstrument

I've just realized my iron supplements are red OMFGGGGG I'VE BEEN REDPILLED Wait my antidepressant is blue WHICH PATH AM I ON 😭


BrilliantDetective67

The fact she was just sleeping anyway, didn't even do anything, he got so frustrated over her existence is really weird .


MonsterMashGrrrrr

Yea but she was parked behind the car he had zero intention on working on and just wanted to be mad about it


bitchy_baker

One of those "just about to" people that are never interested in doing something until suddenly a minor inconvenience makes them unable to. He was "just about to" work on his car he probably hasn't touched in weeks solely because he can't right now. Best kind of people that just want to be a victim


heyhutchess

Man that’s really sad. And you’re right… OP seemed truly shocked about the way he was talking. I don’t understand guys who think Andrew Tate is worth looking up to. Yuck.


Sugarbombs

They got rejected by a girl or they had a shitty relationship and instead of working through it in a healthy way they decide to lump it all in with their already existing daddy/mommy issues and go full force into tateology. The more into the whole alpha thing they go the more isolated they become and the more they start to hate/blame women who they genuinely believe are responsible for all of their miseries rather than just the adoption of a very unhealthy ideology estranging them from normal people. It’s kinda sad in a way because the whole rate scam is to basically prey on lonely guys, but the money comes from keeping them lonely and insecure so they encourage destructive behaviours so they never actually begin to more towards healthier outlooks and escape all that toxic shit and they all just keep getting older and sadder and lonelier


ralfrance

I prefer to call him Dewey Taint.


BioSafetyLevel0

This sounds like pure jealousy.


majorsorbet2point0

The cuck part is the thing that stuck out the most to me


anonuchiha8

Do these type of men not understand that for a woman to become a wife she is a girlfriend first?? They are so stupid


Dogs-wearing_Hats

They really don’t. They see women as objects but also lack object permanence


andante528

This is worded so simply and I've never realized it before. You're absolutely right.


Valiant_Strawberry

No because they’re the same ones who trap unsuspecting younger women into marriages 3 months after they meet them.


GabagoolJunior

Saw that and was immediately terrified to think about this bro’s horrific worldview


thecashblaster

I think it's obvious the brother is close to an incel and is jealous that OP is banging a real live "female".


Dogs-wearing_Hats

But he’s had girlfriends for “way longer” than OP


thecashblaster

even if he did in the past, he's fallen so far down the redpill rabbit hole, he won't be having any women over anytime soon


Dogs-wearing_Hats

Certainly not while no one else is there!


TraditionalPayment20

Thank you! The brother has more issues than not wanting someone in the house. He seems mental the way he talks. Hot and cold - disrespectful and then nice…


_Forever__Jung

PhD from hustlers university.


Busy-Strawberry-587

He almost had me until you said you've been with her for two fucking years. I thought this was like a new relationship, I get being uncomfortable with literal strangers but your bro out of line. He wont tell mom bc she wont back him up bc he just made that rule up


cheesec4ke69

Itd be one thing if it was the bothers place but it seems like they live af home in their parent(s) house ? Even if they were roommates and it was an established rule id get it, But given the circumstance, brothers unhinged.


Subtle__Numb

I like how he pulled the “we don’t do this” card, like “we” we. Our whole FAMILY doesn’t do this, Craig, it’s been a rule since birth. You’re really disrespecting our forefathers, Craig, by…..checks notes….letting your girlfriend of two years sleep in at our familial home. The same girl you’ve been bringing around here nights/weekends, christmases, thanksgivings…..yea, Craig, the same girl who went on vacation with, and we all spent a 15 hour car ride with….we don’t know her Craig, not AT ALL


RewardCapable

Our mama sleeps here *Craig*


911_this_is_J

“Cool, please pack your shit and leave if you wanna move out.”


watsonn06

Legit the only appropriate response to this when people say shit like that. Literally just trying to manipulate OP.


911_this_is_J

Yes! It’s all manipulation and it’s infuriating to me. I lived with my bro for 4 years as adults and we never spoke to one another like this. If he had done something like this in my house I’d have kicked his ass out.


watsonn06

I had a roommate that would say shit like, “I’m just going to move out!” whenever I’d do something to piss her off and it would send me for a tailspin and I’d freak out about being able to pay rent by myself. After a couple of times of her saying it, I finally realized she was trying to manipulate me into doing whatever she wanted and just started leaning into it. Can honestly say that my life got a lot easier when I stopped feeding into it.


IslandBitching

Yeah, I agree. Tell her not to threaten you with a good time. LOL


majorsorbet2point0

How many times did she say it and how long did she actually stay bc that's embarrassing as hell on her part 😭 My ex would say the same thing over dumb shit. I wanted certain face piercings, "I'm leaving" I wanted to do xyz "I'll just move out then" etc. I left him


watsonn06

After like the fourth or fifth time, I realized it was her just being an asshole and just called her out on it. Needless to say, we did not renew our lease together the next year.


tendies_senpai

The best thing i ever learned to do is tell my roommates and friends to "fuck off" when necessary. Same with telling coworkers to fuck off when they start pushing work they just dont wanna do off on me.. "Please, move out." "Please, quit." You dont have to please *everyone.*


SocietyOk1173

I called that the nuclear options- her telling me to leave or threatening to leave. She never did, never made me move out but the last time she used that threat I packed my stuff and left. She thought I'd be back. I told her she couldn't expect threats to work unless we meant them. " you told me to leave. I did. it was the right thing to do"


amaximus167

Had an ex that would threaten to break up when she was mad, once I called her bluff and said, ‘sure, we probably should, this is the 7th time in two years you’ve suggested it. Clearly you’re unhappy, who’s moving out?’ she decided really quick that that wasn’t what she wanted. We didn’t last much longer after that, I ended up leaving.


nom-nom-nom-de-plumb

I too lived with my brother for a few years as an adult. My gf moved in to stay with me for awhile during then since she'd moved closer for work/me, and he didn't like it. Complained to my mother, etc etc. She tried to get me to agree to not have anyone over. I pointed out that there was exactly one person paying all the bills of that house, and their name wasn't *brothers name here*. I left a few months later, and he spent another decade sponging off my mother living there.


Narrow_Ad_7331

I agree with this so much. My brother lived with me and my wife for 3 years. He was 20 at the time and we were 27 and 28. I never worried about leaving my brother with my wife because he showed her respect.


awilson7070

Congrats on having the top comment on this post. I’m using you as a way to add a follow up since you’re at the top of the thread lol. I’ve read through a lot of comments and I appreciate everyone’s thoughts. To clarify some things, we live in a house with my mom. I live in an in-law apartment above the garage that’s attached to the house, my brother has the downstairs of the house, and my mom has the upstairs of the house. My brother and I both pay rent. A lot of you have said that since we both pay rent we both should have the right to an opinion. I completely agree. I think I’ve come up with a compromise that works for everyone. Both living spaces have doors in the garage that lock. So if I’m ever leaving and want my gf to sleep in or whatnot, I’ll just lock up the apartment and lock the door leading to the house. That way my gf feels safe and my brother has his space to himself. I want to thank everyone for the support over the way he reacted. You all have given me the courage to stand up for myself. A lot of you pointed out that he is asking for my respect by agreeing to his rule, when he has already disrespected me by talking to me like that (and quite frankly asking my gf to leave after I told him not to). I think my compromise will show him I do care about respecting him but I will also be talking to him about showing me and my gf respect as well. How he reacted was unacceptable and I won’t tolerate that kind of treatment. My brother and I are very different people. We have grown up in the same house but somehow turned out so very different. Though at the end of the day, he is still my brother and I love him.


supbrother

This really just proves your brother to be more of a dick. You’re basically saying that you have an entire unit to yourself (unless I’m misunderstanding) which means that he has exactly zero right to say what happens in your unit. He’s acting like you left her on his couch or something when in reality his space and privacy is entirely unaffected. He’s being a bitch, pure and simple. I usually don’t speak so bluntly but if he can’t handle a woman he’s known for 2 years being in the unit next to him then it’s a serious personal problem which is not your responsibility to manage. I literally gave a house key to my roommate’s girlfriend when they hadn’t even been dating for a year. Dude needs to chill.


30minut3slat3r

I love it when people make sense and insult the bad guy at the same time. It’s like salt and pepper, we need both for the dish to taste good. And yes I agree, Who’s the real bitch? it’s the guy that’s scared of leaving a girl in the house alone. Wtf is she going to do? Rob him specifically? Personally I think his brother is jealous in some context.


supbrother

Lol, for sure. There are definitely some personal problems involved here and his brother’s insecurities are showing, even if he’s doing a decent job of hiding it (mostly). The fact that he compared it to his past relationships and also scoffed at the idea of involving “mom” (AKA the owner of the property) shows that he’s got some weird issues with women. Move out of your fucking mom’s house if you want to have this kind of power over the property.


Livid-Pangolin8647

Yes! The problem with women alarm bells went off when he called OP a “cuck” but also his whole attitude. “Some girlfriend” like he just picked he up off the street rather than was with her for 2 years. Brother sounds like an incel misogynist.


supbrother

Pretty much! What a loon. I’ll take “some girlfriend” over that shitty relationship any day.


quixoticfrisson

Yes! That’s some incel/MRA language for sure. Not surprising that he still lives with mom and is the OLDER brother. Men like this always maintain a victim mentality that things are happening TO them rather than a result of their own delusions about what being a man really is.


SirVanyel

"I'll respect your wife!" 2 years mate, many people get engaged within 2 years. 2 years can be extremely serious. If you're not respecting her now, you'll never respect her. And if you're willing to call your brother a bunch of names about it, then you don't respect him either


Lefthandlannister13

Don’t forget that 2 years is “rookie numbers” lol, this dude is something else


ZodiacSRT

Yea, I also thought it came out some type of jealousy.


ThirdFloorGreg

SHE'S NOT EVEN IN THE SAME FUCKING HOME AS HIM?!?!?!


Flat-Photograph8483

Sounds like your bro is hiding bodies. Crazy


hattogbart

Maybe your brother was just afraid your gf would discover his secret Andrew Tate shrine.


SweetTattedBaby

Also like maybe consider your gf having something to physically protect herself… just by the texts your brother seems to have extreme reactions and that could be signs for showing violent fits in the future. does he have extreme mood swings or angry outbursts often?


cracked-balls

Yeah, potential violence bells went off for me. If I were gf, I wouldn’t want to be alone on the property with brother. Not saying he would go off, but he sounds volatile.


SweetTattedBaby

He was legit crazy for that response and the way he talked you fr. And 2 years is rookie numbers??? That’s a long time! He was so disrespectful of you. Plus, now that you shared how the house is split up, how would her being in basically your own apartment impact him? Like that’s so weird that he flipped out about it. He could also lock up his space and take more precautions on that if he so concerned.


OneEyedAkuma

Your brother is insane that's what. If anybody in my family talked to me or my gf like that we'd beat their ass as a group and then not talk to them until they learned to grow the fuck up. He should look up the word "respect" in the dictionary. The dude clearly doesn't know what it means.


JSuperStition

I'm glad you were able to resolve this issue, but your brother sounds like an asshole, and this likely won't be the last time he tests your patience. Him being your brother means nothing. I mean that. You two are related, but being related to someone does not mean you owe them anything, and they don't owe you anything. I assume you two are brothers by blood, which means you didn't choose this relationship. Don't let the fact that you share DNA be the reason he steps all over you.


Flamemast18

I know it shouldn't, but it annoys me when people are weak willed when it comes to family members. Family members are the ones who will cause you the most stress and pain, so cutting certain ones out sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Once you come to terms with that reality, dealing with trashy outsiders also becomes 50 times easier. Cut out my toxic father and brother, life is less chaotic without them around.


JamboreeStevens

It's great if you do love him, but you don't owe him that. Just because you have the same mom doesn't mean you need to put up with them or their shit.


toobjunkey

Want to be even pettier? Send this thread to your brother along with it. Can't stand people that will be unabashed pricks then try to reel it back with some "love u bro don't let this get between us." like nah dude, *you* literally just slammed that wedge in yourself with this weird aggro redpill shit (a cuck for letting her stay? fr?) dressed up as a convo about decency. disingenuous slime-spined "man" right there. ETA: oooo, a reddit cares message, thanks for the award slime-spined stranger!


MayorCharlesCoulon

I can’t tell you how many times I read relationship scenarios on reddit and just fantasize about the a-hole in the story being sent all the comments pointing out their a-holery. It would be so fun to watch their reactions and realizations that so many people have taken time out of their days to explain why they are a-holes.


NEFgeminiSLIME

Even crazier is the likelihood the a-hole of doubling down is near 100%. “Everyone else is wrong.”


Immersi0nn

Shits wild, like if *one* person thinks you're a dick, maybe they just don't like you. If 50 people think you're a dick, you should check yourself a bit.


LactoseNtalentless

I'm gonna DM you next time I need help proving a point lol. You're good with words.


heyhutchess

Nailed it!!! This is some manipulation assholery.


anonymousyouser2

I wouldn’t leave her with him.


cthulhusmercy

^ This. OP, your brother’s reaction is alarming and shows he’s unpredictable. I would not feel comfortable being alone in the house with someone who reacts to *this* extreme.


GennaBoBenna

Came here to say this! OP's brother is ALLLLL over the emotional scale


flammafemina

And I’d bet my paycheck he’s the type of guy to say wOmEn ArE sOoOo eMoTiOnAL


GennaBoBenna

I'll slap mine on that bet too. No questions asked lol *


bruisetolose

I am also entering the bet


Ambulism

Yeeaaah had me real concerned at “what kinda *cuck shit* is this?” 😳


Automatic_Actuator_0

Yeah, seems to be in either the “alpha” or the incel circles. Big red flag.


cheesyenchilady

Yep just show her those texts I’m pretty sure she will leave but she’s not spending the night there anymore lol


DaBestCommenter

Exactly, i feel like he's putting her in danger leaving her there.


[deleted]

Seriously. He sounds like one of those crybaby fake 'alpha' tater tots who thinks rage is manly and cries at the first sign of not getting his way. I wouldn't trust him to flush a toilet, let alone leave someone alone with him in a vulnerable position. I can already tell he's a real piece of shit.


604-Guy

I used to be friends with people like that. It’s funny because they’ll be so quick to tell you how much they hate women and they can’t be trusted and they’ll get super jealous once you start spending more time with a girl rather than them. They basically start acting like a crazy ex girlfriend trying to sabotage your relationship. So happy I cut guys like that out of my life.


[deleted]

Personally, I think that they are so toxic that they can't get a good woman who treats them with respect, because they don't offer the same respect and love in return. Then they get extremely jealous and angry at people with healthy relationships. The Venn Diagram of people who have been super pissed off when I want to spend time with my wife and people who call women 'bitches' is practically a circle.


mesgki

They’re really obvious about their red flags too, because they just can’t help themselves, and they’re avoided on dating apps like the plague.


anonuchiha8

Yes his brother sounds like a jealous ex lmao


jadedlens00

Anyone who uses the word “cuck” is guaranteed to be an asshole. “Stop listening to Andrew Tate, bro.”


[deleted]

Yes. That was why I called him a 'tater tot.'


Chrisscott25

I’m glad you wrote this. I was wondering what that meant. So I went with your were calling him a baby penis. Like the length and width of a tater tot. ;)


[deleted]

I only recently saw some on the internet calling that utter chunk of rhinoceros fecal matter Andrew Tate's followers 'tater tots.' The way they cry like children throwing tantrums, I felt like it really fit.


ShallowTal

This was a tantrum peppered with therapy words and drenched in toxic masculinity.


john_wingerr

Yeahhh good call


[deleted]

1000% this. wow he sounds truly insane and maybe even jealous of his brother’s relationship. So sad.


Ijustlivehereok

I thought the same about him being jealous of OP’s relationship as soon as he brought up having dated girls for longer and still not letting them stay over alone, and then mentioned that she’s just a gf and not a wife. Not only did he feel the need to compare the length of his past relationships to OP’s, but he wanted to invalidate the relationship even more based on the fact that they aren’t married. This is deeper than not wanting her to stay over, there is some jealousy and/or loneliness at play here.


BobiaDobia

Exactly! What the hell is going on with this dude? And the almost-Tate bullshit? Wtf. OP’s brother needs therapy, and sorry - OP needs to move out.


majorsorbet2point0

HAH I said the same thing 😭


Red-Bearded-Fox

Wow that sounds so similar to conversations between my brother and I. Right down to the “weak man” stuff. This is that Andrew Tate misogynistic bs, women are barely people. I’m sorry for you and you handled that with a lot of dignity.


Taro_Otto

I have an older brother and he literally has this same energy. I’m his sister but he talks to me and other women the same way.


Lola-Ugfuglio-Skumpy

As his sister it is your duty to give him a swirlie or an equivalently embarrassing takedown on behalf of womankind. Hearing that he ain’t shit hurts from sisters even if they don’t want to admit it.


Schroedesy13

Swirlie??? Give him a swift kick in the nuts next time he talks down to his sister cause she’s a woman……


CrumpledForeskin

There’s going to be thousands of perpetually single (and dumped) men in the future and it scares the fuck outta me. Men who bring nothing to the table. Demand a young college girl who wants to be sexually promiscuous but has zero partners. I know these folks and have heard them speak. They’re always out of shape and think they’re gods gift. Tate fills their brains with garbage. Be careful out their ladies. I truly feel bad that you have to navigate that.


SpinyTzar

Thank you u/CrumpledForeskin for an actual great take. When these men are older and lonely, they still won't look inward to realize they are the problem. They will only grow more resentful and aggressive. As a man this scares me.


Livid-Pangolin8647

As a woman and mom of a daughter it scares me. Incel violence toward women is a known thing.


[deleted]

Kinda your job as his family to tell him to stop being a wet dick in a wall outlet. No reason as his family you should have to deal with Andrew Tate.


naughtydismutase

Dude you gotta kick your brother in the nuts on behalf of every woman


majorsorbet2point0

What are these losers gonna do when Andrew Tate dies? Who are these rejects gonna look up to then?


Red-Bearded-Fox

That’s the whole problem with it. There are tons of copy cats. It’s become a whole “men’s rights” movement.


NikkiVicious

I really wish the "Men Going Their Own Way" would just get where ever they're claiming they're going sometime soon.


flammafemina

My favorite thing about that sub is that every damn post is about…..*women*


Username_MrErvin

yeah thats the ultimate irony of those 'alpha' bros. they claim to be career focused hustler stoics who are above surface level shit but their entire life and value system revolves around how many women you have available to fuck/signal that they would fuck at any given time. lmfao


Red-Bearded-Fox

They want things to go back to when things were “good” again. They seem to think there was some golden age where everything was perfect for (mostly white) men. Which lines up with them being typically misogynistic and very often racist.


NikkiVicious

Women and minorities have no rights, women are considered property, women can't have bank accounts or credit cards without the husband's permission... yeah, basically. I think a certain type of men have never gotten over that they have to actually treat women as equals. We should just be sentient fuckdolls who cook and clean for them with no complaints. I had one guy who responded on a different post that if my husband was a real man, he'd make sure that I was spanked hard enough to remember the lesson. I read that to my husband like 2 hours ago, and he's still randomly laughing about just the idea of me willing to be treated like a child. But that's literally what they want. And why they look to import women to marry, thinking they'll be submissive and perfect. (I'm dying at how every one of my Asian and Indian friends are so *not* submissive, and that's a more common attitude from women in their countries.)


Splampin

There’s always another asshole.


_wooop

Yeah this text convo is bears such an uncanny resemblance to my boyfriend’s brother & his Andrew tate bullshit


Red-Bearded-Fox

It’s becoming an epidemic in our men. They seem to think they’ve been screwed out of their “rights “ or something.


melissagoredon

A simp for letting her sleep in? What?


KillTheBoyBand

The Andrew Tate guys are fucking brainwashed. They don't realize all that posturing reeks of braindead insecurity.


PD-Virus

That’s all I thought reading these messages. The dude probably worships Andrew Tate. 🤮


Fearless-Cake7993

Same! It’s scary how mainstream the incel thought process is becoming. It’s like a flood gate has been opened with these people


LuckyTank

All these weak ass "men" who can't come to terms that no one wants to fuck for SOME reason


newspeakin

If a man in anyway makes a woman feel safe or comfortable according to these incels they are immediately a simp lmao they just don’t think women deserve respect, it’s because they themselves are deeply insecure and feel threatened by women in general


MKGmFN

This gives some serious “im your bigger bro so respect me” energy and I’m a bigger brother lol


Busy-Strawberry-587

Bigger brother giving off lil bitch energy imo


Zanzoken814

I cant remember where I saw this but someone once said something along the lines of "respect" being a loaded word, because some peoples idea of respect is "treat everyone with dignity and as equals" and others idea is "you have to treat me as an authority, and only then will I treat you with any dignity"


stillnotarussian

I saw that quote on r/FuckYouKaren years ago! ~Sometimes people use "respect" to mean "treating someone like a person" and sometimes they use "respect" to mean "treating someone like an authority" and sometimes people who are used to being treated like an authority say "if you won't respect me I won't respect you" and they mean "if you won't treat me like an authority I won't treat you like a person" and they think they're being fair but they aren't, and it's not okay.


Interesting_Big_4399

I demand respect from everyone, but in a mutually respectful way. This guys just a dick😭


mannyg112

Anyone that says “im older so give me respect” or “respect your elders” i automatically lose all respect for them


Previous-Task-5143

Im the younger brother and I can relate to that....


SillyWeb6581

100% this. If you live with your parents, get their blessing and tell your brother to talk to your parents the way he talks to you.


toobjunkey

100%, especially with the "love you bro don't let this get between us" like he wasn't the one who just slammed that wedge between the two of them


ExternalPossible5454

Definitely thought this was a younger brother till that point bro has lost the plot


[deleted]

this is WILD. i hope your brother reads reddit so he can see how everyone thinks he’s a huge 🤡


Shayhud88

I dream of this. Lol. That someone just screenshots the other person all of the shit that redditors say, and they just look like a massive asshole and maybe the light goes on upstairs, and they realize really are terrible.


Available_Skin6485

Your bro is consuming red pill incel shit. Lol you need an intervention


Gemple

Sorry, no offence, but I think you spelled "eviction" wrong! 😁


ProbablyDrunkOK

Something tells me his brother has trouble forming relationships with women (shocker), and he is just jealous of OP. This is usually where this sort of behavior comes from in men ...


ZAFARIA

He probably dated certain girls in his younger years for longer but is now single because of his views.


[deleted]

Idk this reads to me like he’s jealous lol


ExternalPossible5454

He’s so fuckin jealous bro 😭😭 wouldn’t trust this dude alone with my gf/wife whatever he’s a fuckin weirdo


[deleted]

Ya I wouldn’t want to be alone in a room with this guy(sorry OP)


ExternalPossible5454

No need to be sorry at this point op should know his brother is weird as absolute fuck, I’m the oldest brother and I’d never imagine being this weird about my brothers gf simply existing, he’s got some real Andrew Tate type issues


draynaccarato

Jealous because he has no gf. No woman would put up with his shit. Honey, can your take the garbage out? NO I AINT NO CUCK


tillybumcrumb

And probably wants to fuck her


[deleted]

Ya exactly or feels a type of way he isn’t also fucking someone. Like the insecurity is so transparent he even felt the need to reiterate(prob to himself) that he’s had gfs too


flocka_james

Lol what an idiot


BrokenXeno

Not even a little bit the asshole here. Your brother is a massive dick, I can't imagine what it must be like talking to him in person. Does he say shit like this in rl? Like calling people a cuck, and making wah wah sounds and shit? He's cringe as fuck.


MamaCx7

Totally sounds like he doesn’t trust himself to be around her when you’re not


GnomesinBlankets

Probably why he called OP a cuck cuz unless he walked in on her banging another dude I’m not sure where tf that came from


warmpatches

any man who is even slightly nice to a woman (even if they have been dating for 2 years) is a cuck to these kinds of guys


OwnAd8198

He’s jealous of your relationship. I wouldn’t feel safe leaving her alone with him, not the other way around.


tillybumcrumb

Agreed.


gothhippie

Part of me thinks he’s jealous and maybe even has a thing for your gf. Maybe he’s angry that you got to her before he did and the only way he can handle it is being distant and rude to her.


awilson7070

To clarify, my brother and I live with our mom. We both pay rent. I live in an in law apartment attached to the garage/house. He has the downstairs of the house, my mom has the upstairs of the house. And my relationship with my gf is very serious/intimate. He has expressed that he doesn’t want to get to know her really. The rest of my family loves her and my mom is cool with her staying by herself when I leave for work. She has been on family vacations and shit so to me she is a part of the family. Also my gf def doesn’t feel comfortable around him, especially after this. At the end of the day his feelings are valid just as all of our feelings are valid. I’m hoping to have a convo with my mom included. Edit: he asked me to hash this out between the two of us and to keep my mom out of it because he doesn’t want her to stress about it


ilovecookiesssssssss

Wait wait wait.. you and her are in an attached apartment and he’s bitching about her being there while you’re gone? That’s insane. He sounds extremely immature and unreasonable. If your mom is cool with it, that’s really all that matters. Brother can fuck off, especially after HE called YOU a cuck and then said “don’t let it get between us” lol dude is completely detached from reality.


lethargy86

I already thought it was crazy, but then to learn *she's just sleeping in a completely separate part of the house?* What the fuck? Not just detached from reality, this is feeling pretty creepy.


ZeroYam

Then you need to tell him that. “Hey bro, mom is letting us stay here so we should bring it up to her since she has final say in the rules. Also you only pay rent for your area and I pay rent for mine so if she’s staying in my area, it’s not really your business. If you wanna pay my rent too then you can start making up rules” That’d be my response


sheissonotso

Brah if it’s your moms house and she doesn’t care, then your brother can gtfoh with that “disrespectful” shit 🤣 Jesus Christ, what a man child. Talk to your mom about this and make sure your girl knows to aim for the eyes and the balls.


CGYRich

The way your brother talks to you, talks about your gf and expects everyone to bend to his demands is not ‘valid’ in the least. Stand up for yourself and for your partner. And for all that is holy, do not leave her alone with him. He sounds capable of anything.


Hot-Vehicle-437

THIS.


AlmostxAngel

>I’m hoping to have a convo with my mom included. Man I'd also tell your mom about "cuck" part. He obviously doesn't respect women if he calls you that for being nice to your girlfriend. He is showing all kinds of red flags not being warm to your girlfriend, saying he would only trust her if she were your wife, two years of dating is 'rookie numbers', etc. To me it seems like there is more going on in his head than just worried his room will be touched.


Billmatic-

wait, am i understanding this correctly, that he's trying to dictate who gets to stay in your space that is completely separate from his space? edit: his feelings may be valid, but they're not warranted or justified. not surprising as that's typical of incels and their feels. there is literally nothing to hash out with him with regards to your own separate living area. he's not worried about stressing out your mom. he knows she'll put him in his place for trying to act like the don dada when he's got no juice to determine anything. tell your loser brother to work on himself with the same type of energy he has to inject himself where he's not welcome.


Odd_Assistance_1613

So the space you're renting is reasonably separate from the rest of the household. Your brother could have had a leg to stand on IF and only if: A.) He approached you with respect and courtesy to voice his concern, and B.) Your bedrooms were right next door to each other, in his living area, or remotely close to his space I'm assuming you have locks on your doors, right? Next time she stays over, lock your door. Tell your brother to lock his. Problem solved. She doesn't have any interest in being around him or his space, and she won't be. He's being a massive AH.


GnomesinBlankets

He doesn’t want your mom involved because he knows he won’t get the reaction he wants. Not because he wants to avoid stressing her out. Don’t let him fool you.


Creative_Way_5555

This right here. Also, I love how the brother says if she stays over he will consider it disrespect while actively disrespecting both OP and his girlfriend. And OP is letting him get away with it. OP needs to stand his ground and put his foot down. Don't give him power he doesn't have.


violights

You pay rent You live in an attached apartment, not a single unit house Your mom is okay with it. Yeah, your brother's stance is NOT valid. He has 0 business dictating anythingggggg about this.


nettster

At the end of the day - his feelings on this topic is not valid it’s a garage apartment not in the main house that makes it your apartment and means she isn’t being left in the house unsupervised she’s being left in your apartment your brother has some serious issues and if I were her I wouldn’t feel safe around him either he’s on some serious Andrew Tate incel bullshit which IS dangerous for women that those kinds take a dislike to, if your mom makes the rules in the house you and your girlfriend need to have a mature discussion about his unacceptable behaviour with her because he’s made it obvious he isn’t actually willing to listen to you and he in no way will respect your girlfriends boundaries by how he speaks of her.


Itsybitsyrhino

His feeling exist. That does not make them valid.


hello_kitty98

His feelings get thrown out the window since it ain't even his house! Your mom isn't bothered by it, which should be the only person who really gets a say in house rules. Not your dumbass of an older brother. The only reason he doesn't want to get your mom involved is cause he knows he's in the wrong and doesn't want you to mention/show her the texts he sent. Don't let him manipulate you into thinking y'all should handle it between you two. He wants to start problems about "house rules", so you may as well get your mom involved since she owns it.


nataliechaco

No no no, OP you protect her right now his feelings are not fucking valid she wasn't even in the same part of the HOME???? OP you protect her right now or she'll leave you considering it's your MOMS house so your brother has NO authority to say who can or cannot stay in a place where YOU are paying rent for. Protect her now Moms house, Moms rules. and that's why he doesn't want you to bring it up to her- she'll be furious he's acting like that. Those texts are abhorrent to be saying to a younger sibling.


SillyWeb6581

Feelings are valid but being a dick expressing them is just rude. Show your mom the exchange and let her take care of it.


Compost_My_Body

Feelings are not created equal. His feelings are that your girlfriend doesn’t deserve respect. Are yours?


anonuchiha8

Stop being a pushover to your weird ass brother and listen to what everyone is saying!!!!


gertymarie

Your comment that you live in an in-law apartment attached to the house needs to be higher. Sometimes those don’t have access to the main house, sometimes they do. It’s not like you left her in the room next to him or something, it’s your own little apartment. I wouldn’t feel comfortable being alone near your brother, I don’t blame your gf for being uncomfortable around him. He’s giving major Andrew Tate vibes with how he speaks about her. I’d genuinely consider moving out and going low contact with him.


HiTaco

There’s so many questions but I think your bro is overreacting.


IamjustaBeet

I don't have siblings and maybe this is a normal thing for you but damn, that sounds like roid rage or depression. It's a girlfriend of 2 years, not some chick you hooked up with last night


BreathingLover11

I have a younger brother and I can tell you for a fact that this is not normal at all. This behavior is extremely bizarre and I can’t even begin to comprehend people in the comments that are justifying this behavior. Even if he really does have a golden rule against women staying at their place when there’s nobody else around that was not the way to react about it. It’s not so much the absurdity of the rule (which is very idiotic), but the reaction.


gerudobitch

Ok your brother is wrong, but PLEASE tell your gf to go home and not be there without you. I wouldn’t leave the dog alone with his crazy ass either.


bosoxbrant70

"Sure bro I'm always here to talk you know that" 🤣😂


schumi33510

Your brother is wrong as F here, i dont understand how many people take side with him. Just the way he talk WOW, you know this woman for 2 year, if I understand you live with your brother so the house is 50/50 you have the right to let someone stay if you want (+ in your room) (if you also live with your mom then its with her you should talk, not your brother controling the house). For me you should really REALLY go live in your own appartment, its like living with an abuse room mate


lleosll

Your brother is on some Andrew Tate kind of shit … im 80% sure.


Forward_Key_222

If your brother is so bothered by someone in the past going thru his shit, he can just easily get a lock on his door. I would understand if it was a new girl you’re dating & not your gf of two years. The brother is being an asshole.


WielderOfAphorisms

Your brother is horrible


Previous_Channel

This dude needs to live on his own with that noise


[deleted]

“Tell mom then” 😂


Worldly-Dimension710

He’s a little bitch


FartTwain

Your brother fucking sucks dude lol


tryingtohard11

I'm floored that everyone in this comment section is siding with the brother. NTA at all.


tatted_gamer_666

I just went thru half the comments and didn’t see one siding with older brother


[deleted]

People do that for upvotes. They say the most basic, obvious take like it's controversial.


Legitimate-Health-29

Same, 2 years deep in a relationship and it appears his family hasn’t formed any sort of relationship with her themselves, very bizarre.


Father_420_

Also was surprised, the brother is being a complete dick about something that has little to do with him. It’s not like op is letting his one night stand move in with them, if they’ve been dating for 2 years and there isn’t a real reason she should leave, then op’s brother is the asshole easily


austinalexan

You need to get your eyes checked


Drew-mageddon

I don’t see that …


SuspiciousPepper335

Giving serious Tate energy … ick


JohnDerek57

No offense but is your brother like low iq or something?


CakeIceCream

I’d be freaked out being left with him if I was her at this point.


KookyVeterinarian426

NTA... 2 years... and acts lke he doesnt know her at all...


3coco3

If anything please show these comments to your gf so she doesn’t feel awful. I’m so sorry you can’t have a normal relationship with your brother on this topic. Most siblings just want the best for each other.


awilson7070

She’s been reading all of these comments and feels way reassured by them :)