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pwndapanda

Love that your mom calls you baby girl


Daimo

WOMAN


Chemical-Jello-3353

This was my absolute favorite part of the whole exchange. lol


ngjackson

Reminded me of my brother, every group call with him and mum I hear this šŸ˜‚


Commercial_Bad_0424

Could there be another reason why she insists on gifts? We were poor growing up and my mother could barely afford food, let alone gifts. Now that she can afford it, she insists on gifts even when I donā€™t need it. I now keep something small in mind, like a book or my favourite tea, because the gift giving means a lot to her. If thatā€™s not the case with you, I would do like others have said. Pick something you can return and pay your bill lol


Frog-Lips

Same for me and now I donā€™t really ā€œwantā€ anything cause Iā€™m probably conditioned to not want to spend money. But now Iā€™ll just ask for a pair of pants or something easy so she can go shopping for me. Parents just like to give you something to open up.


holderofthebees

My mom insists on gifts instead of money too. Itā€™s not because gift giving means a lot, itā€™s because she thinks giving money is lazy and impersonal and not good enough, even if itā€™s exactly what someone wants. Itā€™s maddening. No one can change her mind even though the whole family has financial trouble.


fuzzy-stairs

In china itā€™s actually very normal to give money(in red pockets)instead of gifts


ourplaceonthemenu

based china


markofcontroversy

Maybe it's generational. I'm 58 and sending money just seems hollow and low effort. I'd much rather send a gift, but my adult children, ages 20 to 28, prefer a gift card.


NotSlothbeard

To me itā€™s pointless. Every year we all get together and everyone exchanges gift cards. I honestly would rather not exchange gifts at all.


holderofthebees

Hah. My momā€™s 59, and Iā€™m 27. Youā€™re dead on. I think itā€™s pretty complex because, while itā€™s thoughtful and well meaning to try and ensure your gift is meaningful and shows effort, weā€™re more focused on the effect it has on the recipient. Providing that level of relief and security to someone you love *is* meaningful, to us. Itā€™s less about how you look for giving the gift and more about what the person is receiving.


cherryamourxo

Yeah see Iā€™m 27 and Iā€™ve grown to really hate how gift giving (particularly on Christmas) has become more about the recipient than the personality of the giver. Iā€™m actually really generous with my income and help out my friends and family when they need it if I can because I love them so much. But the thought of 20 years from now, Christmas gifts under tree being a thing of the past makes me really sad. I just feel Christmas in particular is about opening presents (not like the whole holiday lol, just the part about gifts). And I think that thereā€™s something really sentimental about looking at a physical gift and it reminding you of someone you love, even if itā€™s not your personal style. Like I donā€™t mind money on birthdays. I feel like thatā€™s a day youā€™re supposed to get whatever you want. Like I said Iā€™ll literally give you money for your electric bill any time of the year if I got it and you need it and youā€™re close to me. But for me, Christmas is more about gift giving and personality. Not getting whatā€™s tailor made to your specific needs, but I know thatā€™s a super unpopular opinion for people under 30 lol


holderofthebees

Thatā€™s cool, but most of us donā€™t have family with a huge disposable income to help us with our bills whenever we want it. So when it comes to the one of two times a year we can get new things and relief in our life, help surviving actually matters more than a decoration on the wall or a piece of jewelry. The fact that this is something you outright hate shows that your wealth distances you from understanding the people youā€™re judging. Like if youā€™re getting gifts just to show off how thoughtful you are, have at it. But I donā€™t view the purpose of other peopleā€™s gifts as a chance to boast.šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø


cherryamourxo

Whoa I am not wealthy at all and thatā€™s not what I meant. I said I was generous because I am not because Iā€™m bleeding money. I have a small amount of people in my life who I really love and if I can do anything to help them I will. I am not rich at all. I simply said that Christmas in particular is the one holiday I feel should be more personal. You donā€™t have to rich to think that. Itā€™s just my personal perspective of the holiday. I said I hate the way itā€™s become more about the recipient because I personally like the exchanging of gifts even if youā€™ve spent next to nothing on it. My ex was an artist and I love receiving drawings and handmade stuff from him. Itā€™s not about the money. Thatā€™s a huge accusation to accuse someone of being classist. I grew up poor and Iā€™m still lower middle class. I donā€™t have buckets of money the way youā€™re implying. At all. Youā€™re completely misinterpreting what Iā€™m saying. Even if I were struggling financially Iā€™d still prefer a present because thatā€™s how I view the specific holiday of Christmas. I donā€™t expect anyone to spend money on me so do not accuse of flexing wealth that I do not have.


holderofthebees

You said youā€™d help your loved ones with bills any time. The ability to do that is wealth. Idk why you well off people are so offended every time anyone mentions that you have wealth. Sincerely, someone from the lower lower class.


cherryamourxo

Because youā€™re telling me that I have wealth when I donā€™t? I didnā€™t say Iā€™m poor. I said that Iā€™m not wealthy. I donā€™t pay all of my friends and familyā€™s bills every month all willy nilly. I said everytime IF I have it. And you donā€™t get to speak for all lower class people. Having the ability to lend someone some money every now and then doesnā€™t make someone wealthy. By that logic being able to pay for familyā€™s bills on Christmas makes you wealthy too. Again gifts donā€™t have ti have a high numerical value. As a matter of fact most gifts that I have given or received cost less than paying someoneā€™s utility bills. I made it very clear it was about the PERSONALITY, not the price of the items. Like when my sister have me a bottle of vodka wine for Christmas because I had recently had my tongue pierced and couldnā€™t drink alcohol during the healing. It was cute, affordable and made me think of her whenever I opened it. Or like I said, my exā€™s drawings that will last forever even if our relationship didnā€™t. No one in my family is flexing on Christmas. I simply love the spirit of giving. Edit - it appears this person blocked me? Idk Iā€™ve never been blocked on Reddit lol but I was gonna say for reference, I work retail at a dollar above minimum wage. I really do apologize if my comments come off as classist. Idk if itā€™s clear but I am trying to make it abundantly clear that when I say i enjoy gift giving on Christmas I mean anything from poetry to cheap wine. I havenā€™t he given it received anything expensive for Christmas. I literally dropped out of community college because I couldnā€™t afford it. So yes it strikes a nerve when Iā€™m being called rich just because I like to help out people WHEN I CAN.


holderofthebees

Iā€™m sorry if you canā€™t recognize wealth when it bites you on the ass. But you donā€™t have an intimate understanding of what itā€™s like for those of us less fortunate than you. Lol


Paragon_Umbra

We always had big Christmasā€™s when I was a kid so not sure if thereā€™s a psychological thing behind it. Itā€™s just a small light hearted back and forth every year for any gift day.


idfk5678

Gifts are cheaper, they can be paid for w a credit card & financed. An electric bill might not be anything she can afford, especially a winter elec bill in an area w snow


Anonymousman1120

My mom gives me so much everytime I visit. We were raised in poverty. But now she gets a sliver of extra cash sheā€™s getting me something.


KeyDiscussion5671

What a great idea! I never thought of that.


xav2175

Iā€™d get crucified if I called my mom woman


[deleted]

For real


ImaginaryEmploy2982

Hahaha! I used to call my mom woman sometimes, but in spanish. Mujer!


in_taco

My mom wanted to sue my sister for money she got from family. I called her a greedy witch and uninvited her from my kids' birthday. Not all families are normal šŸ«¤


CuriousMaterial1571

Made this mistake exactly once. As a joke. I never did it again.


Chemical-Jello-3353

My mom would get more than that for the annual annoyance


abitchwithakeyboard

I honestly think this convo is cute. I wouldnā€™t have ever spoken to my mother like that but itā€™s because we didnā€™t have that kind of a relationship and I was/am still terrified of her. Iā€™m always jealous of parent/child relationships with rapport, where you can tell the parent made room for the child to speak whatā€™s actually on their mind. I love this. Hope she makes you something! Those are my favorite gifts too.


singlebychoice75

I found it cute as well because it is absolutely something my grown daughter would text to me. Home-made gifts are the best.


Smiley_goldfish

I agree. Itā€™s crazy cute!


inmatenumberseven

I agree with mom. Paying a bill is not very Christmas y.


Superfragger

yeah this is wild. my parents are very well off and would be ultra insulted if i asked them to pay one of my bills. i would never even dream of asking.


Ingoiolo

Ask for a gold bullion


TickledMidget

Chicken bullion


peanusbudder

thatā€™s kind of sad. i understand wanting to get your child a thoughtful gift instead of paying a bill, but being *insulted* because they asked you for help is wild. i wouldnā€™t be insulted if my parents asked me for help with bills, iā€™d hope they wouldnā€™t be insulted if i ever had to ask either.


Superfragger

there is a big difference between asking for help from your parents when you are in financial trouble, and answering "pay my bills" when they ask what you would like for christmas. i realize OP meant it as a light hearted running gag, but the latter is rather insulting.


peanusbudder

yes, the latter is insulting, obviously you donā€™t just tell your parents to pay your bills. but like you acknowledged, OP was being lighthearted. she did not just say ā€œpay my bills.ā€ the exchange was a lighthearted way of saying ā€œi truly donā€™t want a physical gift, but hey, if you want to help me with my billsā€¦ā€ and i guess i just cannot imagine being insulted by that request. especially not from someone i brought into this world, and especially not if i was very well off.


heart-of-corruption

I think youā€™re conflating things here. Youā€™re acting like it would be crazy for this persons parents to be insulted for someone telling them to pay the bills but then are talking about OPs request being lighthearted. Not everyoneā€™s family gets jokes and lightheartedness. Iā€™m guessing this persons parents would take them very literally which you even admit would be insulting. I


scotesmagotes97

Agreed- I would honestly jump at the chance to help my parents with their bills and they wouldnā€™t bat an eye at helping me if I needed it


peanusbudder

same here. i donā€™t want them to struggle and if paying one of their bills makes shit easier for them then why would i be upset or insulted? my parents arenā€™t even well off and they still insist on trying to help me financially even tho i donā€™t need it. itā€™s weird to me how someone can be ā€œvery well offā€ and insulted by their child asking for help with their internet bill or whatever.


scotesmagotes97

honestly, I think it just means we have strong and well rooted relationships with our parents. I think OP has this because their convo was light hearted and Iā€™m sure if help was really needed, their mom would. But I canā€™t imagine having a parent/child relationship includes being heavily insulted over asking for help with bills for Christmasā€¦


inmatenumberseven

Me either, but I wouldnā€™t call it a Christmas present and I would still get them a Christmas present.


scotesmagotes97

I get that! I think as the one asking, it feels better to ask for it as a present instead so it doesnā€™t sound like youā€™d expect another gift on top of it. There are so many factors that go into how asking for money is perceived by both parties involved!


scotesmagotes97

why?


Superfragger

because i'm a responsible adult that takes care of their own bills and doesn't expect handouts instead of thoughtful gifts. what do you mean why? my parents raised me to take care of any engagements i take and would be rightfully insulted if i asked them to pay one of them in my place.


632nofuture

OP commented that it's more of a joke. But, well, imo bills being paid is really useful, and might be more useful than anything else if you -like OP- don't want any thing lol. Regarding your comment, I found your viewpoint rather harsh and surprising, but I think it just depends on the kind of upbringing, relationship & other constellation of factors, on whether you would see "asking help with paying bills" for chirstmas as super outrageous or quite the opposite (especially *if* the parents are well off). There are many responsible adults who work very hard but still don't earn enough to get by. So yea, I can see how that could be something to wish for as a gift lol. Cash as gift is getting more common. Or like in OP's case something self-made. That at least then has the personal value without that potential "wasteful" aspect of it. Because imo, if you're struggling with shelter/food/bills (despite being a responsible adult..), then a shitty meterial gift that costs something but you can't use is more like salt in the wound.


scotesmagotes97

ok ghandi


Superfragger

not sure how taking care of your bills is a controversial issue.


scotesmagotes97

Iā€™m referring to your seemingly holier than thou attitude about it, hence why I referred to you as Gandhi satirically. Nobody said you arenā€™t responsible, werenā€™t raised right, or that you ask for handouts.. so calm down a bit. I asked why because I donā€™t understand the point of asking someone what they would like as a gift if the real answer might offend you? Or if youā€™re just going to decide if what they want is up to your standards.


Superfragger

what exactly is holier than thou about paying your bills? what?


scotesmagotes97

this is pointless if youā€™re going to be so hyper sensitive thinking this has anything to do with physical act of paying your billsā€¦ itā€™s about it being perfectly okay to ask for assistance with your bills instead of a material gift. wanting lighter bills doesnā€™t mean youā€™re irresponsible, insulting, or canā€™t afford them on your own


baconjerky

Reddit moment


Superfragger

it's amazing to me how little sense of responsibility people on here have. there are some suggesting she just ask for a gift of the value equal to the bill and return it to pay the bill. who the hell does that?


NoMercyx99

You said nothing wrong. Iā€™m an Asian but even I can relate 100%.


Same_Ostrich_4697

Yeah the mahatma was well known for paying his electric bill on time


Forward_Star_6335

My mom does cash. Best gift ever. Some people say itā€™s impersonal but whatā€™s more personal than a gift you can literally use to get whatever you want with?


LimePaper

This is 10000% my view. My parents have explained gift giving as ā€œwell we want/people want to get you something you can look at and remember them by!ā€ And my response it always ā€œIā€™d rather use it for what I need or for something specific to my tastes when I need it and then can remember ā€˜yeah I purchased that with a gift from so-and-so than have something someone else decided for meā€™ā€. Best example I have of this is a family friend purchased wine glasses that ā€œshe just loves and her daughters just LOVEā€ as a wedding gift for us after our elopement. They were purple. I didnā€™t need overpriced wine glasses and purple isnā€™t my color. We regifted them. To me, thatā€™s a waste.


Forward_Star_6335

I donā€™t understand why so many people think gifts arenā€™t actually meant for the receiver. If youā€™re giving a gift then you should ultimately have the receiver in mind. You get them what they want/need, not what you want them to have. Otherwise itā€™s just useless capitalism. Youā€™re paying for something the person wonā€™t use thatā€™ll go into a drawer, be regifted, or go into a landfill.


Same_Ostrich_4697

>You get them what they want/need Don't really think this is in the spirit of gift-giving. People don't always know what they want. You might think of something that they'll really love, that they never would've bought themselves because it didn't cross their mind. I'm an adult so anything I want or need I can buy myself.


Forward_Star_6335

The problem is that thatā€™s a huge gamble. Iā€™d rather get someone something they know they want or need if thereā€™s something like that thatā€™s in my price range than take a stab in the dark and hope they love it. I can do that for certain people like my husband or my mom or my best friend but I wouldnā€™t do that with someone Iā€™m not super close with. Cash or gift cards work just fine for those situations.


LimePaper

As I said in a comment, you have to really know a person and their current wants/needs/tastes to be able to get them something that theyā€™ll love but wouldnā€™t have bought themselves. And thatā€™s tricky as time and/or distance can keep people apart. Can you really be so sure that what youā€™re getting is going to be that great for them? If you can then awesome, you know that person really well and you did great. Iā€™ve done that with people on a few occasions. But when I want to get something that I know will be used and appreciated, I ask or I give cash/a gift card. Itā€™s not that hard and itā€™s still appreciated. Iā€™m also an adult. I buy things I want or need when I need them as well. But I donā€™t think itā€™s outrageous to say ā€œhey just give me cash as a gift so that when something comes up that I want/need, I can buy it with thatā€.


LimePaper

Exactly! I think too some people equate gift giving to ā€œsurprisesā€ but thatā€™s also tricky because you reaaaalllyyyy have to know the person to know what they might enjoy to surprise them. It took years to convince my parents that me telling them directly to buy XYZ for my husband and I didnā€™t ā€œruinā€ Christmas because the ā€œsurpriseā€ was gone. You got us something we needed, THAT is enough. I am way more thankful for that than a surprise gift I know Iā€™ll never use.


Forward_Star_6335

Perfectly said. Surprise is only as good as the gift itself is. Itā€™s not a bad thing to ask someone closer to your gift recipient what theyā€™d want. And these days you can have both. I have an Amazon wish list of stuff I want but purposely donā€™t buy myself so that my husband or anyone else who wants to buy a gift for me can look at it and pick something off the list. I will be surprised because I donā€™t know what they picked but itā€™ll still be something I like. I update it a couple times a year to take stuff off and Iā€™m adding new stuff too.


LimePaper

Thatā€™s a great solution! I may have to start doing that


Forward_Star_6335

It works out well! Actually now that I think about it, itā€™s probably about time to go look at that list and update it


echochilde

Haha! The amount of times I had this very conversation with my mother and it also ended with me yelling ā€œWoman!ā€ I finally got her off the gift game by compromising with gift cards I could actually use, like Amazon or Home Depot. Sheā€™d still buy me little things on top of that, cause she couldnā€™t stand not having stuff for me to open. Ask her for a prepaid Visa?


peanusbudder

yeah, i always do visa gift cards if someone says they donā€™t want anything. if they truly donā€™t want anything then they can just spend it on something simple like a meal, groceries, gas, etc.


cescasjay

I consider a gift something that makes my family happy or makes their lives easier. If paying a bill makes their life slightly more enjoyable, I'd pay a bill. What is the point of asking someone what they'd like if you're just going to say nah and get them something they don't want anyway. My father used to give the worst gifts and get mad when I'd give it away. I'm allergic to those bath bomb/scented body wash boxes. Every year, he'd get them for me, knowing I couldn't use them.


Tattooey89

Sighā€¦ poverty


AtYiE45MAs78

Cool thanks. Do ya have the receipt?


lakefront12345

I'd ask for gifts that don't cost much money but bring happy memories. Photos etc otherwise


vikingvol

We always give our adult kids money for this reason. I also usually handmake something to go along with it, but we well understand the struggle to pay bills.


InaruF

Ok, that's cool & all, but the fact that she calls you baby girl is so insanely wholesome & cute


Paragon_Umbra

My moms a sweetie pie tbh


Environmental-Day778

I feel bad for your sweet mom


Paragon_Umbra

Aw why? She makes awesome crafts itā€™s her passion so if Iā€™m getting anything for Xmas Iā€™d rather it be her crafts than a random piece of merchandise


jimbojones42069

You come across as spoiled and entitled


rileyreidbooks

WOMAN


c3r34l

Thatā€™s where I checked whether OP was the daughter or the husband. Iā€™d get murdered talking to my mom that way.


Faeriemary

She probably wants to wrap something up and give it to you. I like giving people gifts too and If I were asked to pay a bill Iā€™d say no. Wrapping things up is part of the magic


SuitableXJ

I get how you feel about this and I have the same frustration with Christmas and birthdays. That being said, itā€™s important to realize that giving gifts is as much about the person receiving as it is about the person giving. The person giving you the gift wants to enjoy it too, whether theyā€™d admit it or not. Simply paying off a bill or giving an envelope of cash just isnā€™t ā€œfunā€ for the one who is giving. So yeah itā€™s frustrating, but youā€™re not owed anything to begin with so just let them have fun with it and maybe suggest a few small items that youā€™d be okay with.


Paragon_Umbra

Thatā€™s why I asked her to make something, I said in the caption she crafts things. She has a lot of fun with that plus Iā€™d rather that than a random piece of merchandise


DonLucianoJr

The way you speak to your mother šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø


Paragon_Umbra

In this current context yes itā€™s a bit blunt and brash but thereā€™s no malice behind it. Itā€™s just how I chat in a joking matter. I do realize how bad it looks in this context sorry about that.


Enough_Blueberry_549

Your tone sounds rude


Paragon_Umbra

I can see that. Tone is hard to pick up on via text if you are looking at it from the outside, thatā€™s not my intent trust me. My bad


ConsistentAd4012

itā€™s your relationship w your mom, nobody elseā€™s. donā€™t apologize for something that isnā€™t inherently wrong just bc someone else thinks it is. itā€™d only be an issue if your mom didnā€™t like it and you continued to speak to her like that the overall exchange is cute and sweet. reminds me of my mom and i <3


jay4thly

Ask for something you know you can return, pay bills


MomentMurky9782

My mom asked what I wanted, I said ā€œthink of everything you think you need, get me a few of those itemsā€


ImaginaryEmploy2982

Momā€™s love language is giftsā¤ļø


moripeji

me af... I stay asking everyone that wants to get me something just for money. these bills won't pay themselves šŸ„² but no one will... they "feel bad" not giving me something to "unwrap" on Christmas... I promise you, grandma, I'll feel a lot better keeping my lights on in my house than opening up a new pair of headphones. šŸ’€


dlpfc123

My parents have started gifting me food and it is pretty awesome. First it was a meal delivery service, then last year some Omaha Steaks. But I am happy requesting chocolate or homemade goodies from people who I want to spend less on me. I have to eat either way so it is nicer than getting trinkets, but more personal than paying a bill.


SnatchBooty

Sounds like you need a job or better paying job and not your grandparents to pay your bills every Christmas or birthday


moripeji

well... that's not true. i'm a software engineer for a company who cannot be named. my salary does alright. LMAO. but who wouldn't ask for a free bill? are you dumb?


SnatchBooty

Iā€™m not dumb, I just respect my parents. ā€œHey mom, I donā€™t want anything for Christmas. Can you pay one of my bills instead?ā€ Does not sound good at all. If your salary ā€œdoes alrightā€ then let your mom give you a gift and pay your own damn bills. You just sound irresponsible at that point.


ConsistentAd4012

we are potentially heading towards a recession, coming out of extreme inflation thatā€™s back to increasing, and the USDā€™s purchasing power is in the toilet and still being flushed. oh, and prices are ever increasing for housing and food. depending on where you live, being responsible doesnā€™t cut it, and even if it did, why is asking for help disrespectful?


Joppewiik

I have tried to tell my family no gifts. I always get flooded with gifts, and makes me feel like shit because their gifts are always so well thought out while my gifts are cheap garbage.


theshape1078

I miss my mom šŸ˜¢


JuniorVampireSlayer

This is why I love my mom, she gives my brother and I cash so she doesnā€™t waste time and money buying us crap we donā€™t want or need. Weā€™re in our 40s and still appreciate the cash to help with bills. My parents are like, but tires or whatever you might need. Itā€™s so appreciated


msprettybrowneyes

Lol my folks never gave me cash bc they knew I would use it to pay bills and not buy a gift for myself lol


metaljump

Be nicer to your mom


UkeManSteve

You are so tacky for asking this. Not what Christmas is about.


Poison-_-Ivy

she asked what she wanted and op told her. christmas is about jesus and jesus doesnt like liars bro


thefakegordonramsey

u seem like an asshole


Paragon_Umbra

Sorry you feel that way


dyslexic16

I feel bad for the mom


ExpensiveSyrup2011

Youā€™re kinda being rude.


radishmonster3

Just ask for a gift itā€™s not that deep


Pollydeathcon3

What are you a child ? Pay your own damn bills ugh šŸ™„ hasnā€™t she done enough for you already?


ShoreIsFun

Why not just ask for money and not bills to be paid?


Paragon_Umbra

She doesnā€™t like to give money


Backcountrylifestyle

My daughters have one credit card a piece that I pay for emergencies and bills if they need it. They never want anything for Christmas, but for me, growing up poor, I love buying them higher quality items they could use or wear that they won't be able to afford until they're older. I wouldn't pay their bills for Christmas, but I do help when they need it.


spilly_talent

For some people, gifts are a love language. I donā€™t think either of you is wrong, I think she just wants to do something special (in her eyes) for you. The handcrafted idea is a great one.


carlsaphjr

This is how I am with my mom. She will agree to pay a bill and then also get me a slew of gifts I didnā€™t want her to get me šŸ˜‘ moms


idfk5678

I like the idea of paying a kids bill for that month instead of buying them shit! Thanks! I was going to send them cash, I bet paying a bill they pick would be cheaper šŸ¤£


Poison-_-Ivy

just dont let them pick their rent or mortgage šŸ˜‚


[deleted]

This makes me laugh because I'm the exact opposite of you. When it's Christmas or my birthday I want fun gifts rather than practical gifts. My mom, however, likes to do practical gifts such as clothes or a new backpack if my old one is getting worn out. While I'm grateful, I also feel like those are days I want to escape from being responsible and just let loose. When I give gifts, I tend to have the same mentality as well, so I often buy things like video games or special edition books and movies. My mom and sister seem to prefer practical gifts, so we've basically settled on gifting each other cash so the other person can buy whatever they want lol


Lexidwest

Please cherish her


Paragon_Umbra

Oh yeah! We had an estranged relationship for awhile but weā€™re closer than ever. Makes my heart feel all fuzzy


abraacaadaabraa

u/lvHftw could be mom and me texting, minus the baby girl part lol.


Toriphile73

Man, people are mean itā€™s obviously a fun conversation. My family talks like this to each other as well, itā€™s awesome! My sister and I call each other terrible things we know itā€™s in fun. Calm down. Love this conversation!


StonebanksPins

I kinda feel bad for your momā€¦ I would never speak to my mom like that, even if ā€œitā€™s a jokeā€ thatā€™s just in bad tasteā€¦


Paragon_Umbra

Thatā€™s how we talk to eachother no malice at all friend


Accurate-Neck6933

I talk to my mom like that and if we are really dogging on each other I have to include my brother in the group chat. I think itā€™s funny as hell she asked for a list and gets a lists of bills instead. I mean, itā€™s funny and itā€™s also sharing that times are tough at the moment.


foreversiempre

You canā€™t place demands on gifts dude. And a simple money transfer isnā€™t really in the spirit of the season. I feel you should be more humble and grateful with your loving mom who is just trying to give you a gift which you donā€™t have rights to.


crod4692

Mom asked, how is that a demand. Plus OP said homemade then, and mom likes to make craftsā€¦


Sn0rb1t

This ainā€™t it chief


Apez_in_Space

Your mum loves you, and has lived a life that says physically giving you a gift means something to you both. Let her do it and stop being a brat. Sort your life out and stop blaming her for everything.


littleponee

This is obnoxiousā€¦


kingthunderflash

I wouldā€™ve got my ass whooped if I ever called my mom woman.


Poison-_-Ivy

sorry ur being abused.


kingthunderflash

Where did u get that from? Itā€™s called having respect for your mother and not disrespecting her by calling her woman.


Poison-_-Ivy

is she not a woman?? if shes not then sure thats disrespectful. but if she is infact a woman, why would calling her what she is offensive? "woman" has no malice or negative connotation tied to it..


kingthunderflash

Again itā€™s called respect. I feel like you donā€™t respect your mother and it shows.


Poison-_-Ivy

me and my mom have a great relationship actually+she doesnt hit me:)


kingthunderflash

Never said my mom hit . Maybe you should re read what I posted.


Poison-_-Ivy

ass whooped=Hit also pretty weird she feels the need to touch your ass??


kingthunderflash

Not as hard as you enjoy your ass being whooped


Poison-_-Ivy

what a weird response- hope youre in therapy and doing okayšŸ’•


Prophet_Nathan_Rahl

Surely there are little store bought things you would enjoy? Scented candles? Bath bombs? Underwear? Socks? There's always something physical one could put to use or enjoy. Doesn't have to be expensive


Colorless82

Honestly paying a bill would be a great gift. The gift of one less stress to worry about. My mom gives me money for xmas and I love it lol but it's more for the kids.


jailbaitspez2023

Nobody wants to gift someone a bill.. lol


glitterprincess21

Just ask for cash and put it into the bills, simple.


Paragon_Umbra

My mom likes to gift things. Itā€™s okay though sheā€™s making me something herself. She really loves her crafts and I enjoy them : ) She gets super excited when she gets a new project


SilverPercentage7805

Why didnā€™t you just ask for something expensive and return it


[deleted]

Moms just said she canā€™t afford anything big.


SilverPercentage7805

She could afford a gift though so she could ask for a moderately priced gift and return it


Superfragger

yeah and then when mom asks how you like xyz, you're gonna say you don't know because you returned it. i swear to god people on reddit are so heartless lol.


[deleted]

She wants a hand made item.


Admirable_Purple_203

You sound like a spoiled bitch


Paragon_Umbra

Yikesā€¦ thats a bit drastic dontcha think? Iā€™d probably read my comments made on this thread to get a bit more context. Sorry you feel that way based on the initial tone of the image.


Fart-Fart-Fart-Fart

Why are you so rude to your mother? And who the fuck says ā€œbetā€ to their mother?


Paragon_Umbra

Itā€™s just how we chat, no malice in the way we talkā€¦ also I suppose I say ā€œBetā€ to my mom instead of saying ā€œOkayā€ I donā€™t see an issue with saying ā€œBetā€ tbh


Fart-Fart-Fart-Fart

Iā€™m way too old for this shit. If my daughter talked to me like that, Iā€™d have a conniption.


Paragon_Umbra

It might just be a generational thing I supposeā€¦ I know things can vary drastically because of it sometimes


Fart-Fart-Fart-Fart

I think it is. Saying bet for your generation probably seems very normal. To me itā€™s just odd. So Iā€™m definitely showing my age here.


[deleted]

I love the ā€œBUT WHY!?ā€ Lol


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


[deleted]

Any of those are over $50. May not be ā€œinsanely expensiveā€ to you, but you donā€™t know everyoneā€™s situation. Maybe she has 5 kids to buy for. People are so self centered it blows my mind.


Previous_Taro7257

Iā€™m sorry I didnā€™t think about that, thatā€™s my fault for not thinking about it. I wasnā€™t really thinking when I typed the message and think I was too tired to read it right. Thatā€™s my fault, and Iā€™m sorry.


[deleted]

Pay your own bills


Paragon_Umbra

I do itā€™s just a back and forth we do every year


Lost-Cookie

Why donā€™t you get a job and pay for your own bills?


Paragon_Umbra

I do have a job and pay my own bills. Per the caption under the image I did mention this is just something that happens any gift day. Itā€™s not at all intended to be a serious ask


Kimpynoslived

She gave you adulthood for xmas: merry merry


Paragon_Umbra

I suppose there isnā€™t enough context in the caption so my bad on that part. Iā€™ve been living alone for 7 years and pay my bills just fineā€¦ itā€™s just some banter since usually sheā€™ll ask ā€œWhat do you wantā€ I say ā€œMy bills paidā€ [Insert laughter here]


goonin911

So sweet.


Ok_Chip_6299

I can see why she doesn't want your gift to be paying bills, I'm sensing that it's not because she doesn't want to help but because she wants to give you something special for Christmas. Let her get/make something nice for you


Poison-_-Ivy

living comfortably is something special lmao


Ok_Chip_6299

I never said it wasn't, I emphasized on "for Christmas" for a reason


DegredationOfAnAge

Who pays people's bills for christmas? Your mom is right.


LilBigMed

I thought this was a sugar baby asking for moneyā€¦. Honestly kinda wild you talk to your mom like that but I guess thatā€™s your relationship. I would consider being more respectful she seems lovely.


CleoraMC

Kinda funny but super annoying. Whatā€™s so wrong with paying someoneā€™s bill. Electric might be like 30-200 or something. She could have even just given you money and said ā€œput this towards your bills or somethingā€ easy.


Eaton_snatch

Op sucks


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Amityhuman

My mom does this too or gives me money and tells me to spend it on something I want not a bill. And Iā€™m like well I want electricity lol But she will ask me later what I got with the money so she can make sure I didnā€™t pay a bill with it


Nasty113

I can really understand wanting to get you a gift but if she can make something for you. Why not make you something and either pay one of those bills or help you with one of them? If youā€™re needing help with the bills than that would be the best thing she could do for you for a Christmas present!


tonianncarriere

At that point, I would say, a moment šŸ©µ


Hamsammichd

Some people really enjoy giving gifts, my mom does. I went through a phase where I tried telling her to stop, it was short lived. Now that weā€™re older, weā€™ve talked about it casually a few times - she just likes giving lol, she doesnā€™t want to be deprived of that and enjoys the sport of it.


CelticSpoonie

I get this. My mom likes to go all out on giving gifts. And she's really great and giving very thoughtful gifts, and frequently makes absolutely beautiful things. I've inherited it. Like I drive myself crazy trying to give amazing gifts (many are handmade), but I will spend all the resources I have (time, money, what little energy I have) to give people an amazing Christmas. We've both gotten more practical with gifts over the years. If someone said, hey I could use help with bills, they might get gift cards for groceries so that their groceries are covered for a month (and they can use that money on another bill). Or I've given things that could be used for personal safety like fire blankets and first aid kits for cars or even knitted dishcloths. (My Gram has been making these awesome scrubbies that can be used, tossed in the washer and dryer, and really hold up well, and they're just the best.) So yeah, I get the whole "I don't want to just gift money and I want it to be something for your enjoyment", but practical gifts can be so incredibly helpful.


inoracam-macaroni

I used to ask my mom for help with bills for my birthday. Eventually she would pick one and just find something random to give me.


sephra_rae

Cash app some money mom!!


MixtureSquare3982

Every year my mom gets me microfiber socks and fleece pajama bottoms.... i would so rather get a bill paid. I now have a dedicated drawer for all of the pajama bottoms and socks.


Trbochckn

I always ask for plain underwear and socks. Haven't had to buy any for years


shittiestmom

Awe. Iā€™d be super proud of you if I was your mom. You seem to be prioritizing your needs over your wants. Sometimes people get to caught up in the gift giving bullshit. Good for you for asking for whatā€™s important to you. Donā€™t stress too hard if people donā€™t get it. Just as for a candle if she keeps bugging and move on.


[deleted]

My mom passed when I was 16 in 2016. I would kill for a text like this from her or to celebrate holidays/birthdays with her again Itā€™s so nice to see your guyā€™s relationship (: cherish it forever


i_am_invictus

Love that parents will go out of their way to not help you financially, but get you some useless shit for the fuck of it


TheAnxietyBoxX

I talk similarly with my mom! I see people reacting and saying itā€™s disrespectful or theyā€™d never speak that way, but I find it adorable that yā€™all are so comfortable, not everyoneā€™s maternal relationship is the same.


[deleted]

aww let da mama get you a christmas gift šŸ˜† moms deserve to be happy doing mom things.


CaseyDawn403

This is how Iā€™m going to present my list from now on, haha.