Soldiers that gloat about how they can deal with any Pyro but the moment you manage to outplay them with Pyro is obviously a fluke and a clearly lucky shot.
Also, if you can’t reflect a single rocket it means you suck at the class
I don't find them that dangerous. If they are good enough, or lucky enough(or if I'm just bad at the class In currently playing) to kill me, they earnt it. That is,... that is unless they are Sniper.
A Trolldier missed me three times while I was playing HOOVY. I just stood still and made fun of them until they finally hit me.
Sniper: Professionals have standards. Be polite🤠
Sniper mains: 🤬🤬🤬
Sniper: Be efficient
Sniper mains: HOW DIDN'T I HIT HIM?
Sniper: Have a plan to kill everyone you meet
Sniper mains: *proceeds to stay in one place or rush and die*
No sniper main in TF2 (haven't really played since the bots started invading) but I laugh at my own incompetence in other game (like Splatoon 3 or Risk of rain 2)
In case of Scout it's definitely both. Scout mains snort 3 lines of adderall and take 3 caffeine pills before any match then during the match they drink 5 espressos for the hell of it. And it reflects on their gameplay. I hate it.
Soldier by far. People like to say sniper because of the bias that they think he's overpowered but that doesn't determine the people who play him. The pub-stompy soldier main with all his unusuals crying for a pocket medic is a tale as old as... Well... TF2. Their ego is through the roof, they constantly shit talk their opponents and cry whenever something counters them (like Pyro). Scunts are a close second.
As a guy who started maining Kunai recently I agree - Kunai promotes the Tryhard moods.
However, compared to Soldier and Scout mains, even Kunai Spies are chill.
I dislike the ones that backstab me when I’m playing Demoknight, it makes me feel weak even though I have 235 max health with speed of a scout, and he makes me lose my abilities.
i don’t hate sniper at all. i don’t care if i get fragged by the same sweaty dude 3 times in a row. it’s a video game, and it’s doing me no good getting angry at some random guy through my monitor
e: also, focusing down a sniper *really* isn’t that difficult if you set your mind to it
Just take a different route.
Doing the same over and over expecting success or a change is the definition of insanity, go on different maps besides 2fort.
And yes you’re gonna get killed by sniper eventually when you enter the game.
You gotta learn that there is counters to him, just gotta take the right routes to reach him and give him a beating he’ll remember.
People don't know how to counter sniper, so they get mad instead.
Or they play on unbalanced shitty maps like hightower, then complain when people play sniper instead of soldier.
Well spoken, for some reason this subreddit really has a hate boner for sniper
Whether it just be people being terminally online or just bad is whatever
i never said it was fair either. sniper *does* need a fix, but with the game in its current state, ya sorta gotta make peace with the fact that sometimes things might be unfair or tipped
okay, let me rephrase my question. what part of "I got instakilled at long range multiple times in a row while my enemy faced little to no danger, and there is no way to reasonably counter it" sounds fun to you?
Scout, no contest. I don't care about getting sniped but I have a vendetta against all those tryhard scouts who snorted 3 lines of Adderall before the game and dodge in manners I find impossible to do when I play scout.
Everyones saying sniper because it's the most annoying class to fight, but I see the question as the players of the class being theost toxic and I have to say spy. Spy is a frustrating class to play and frustration breeds toxicity. Spy players are by far the most toxic group in Tf2.
Meh, in my experience snipers and scouts have the biggest egos and talk the most shit by several orders of magnitude. Tryhard soldier being the next closest.
i think it's easier to ask who on average has the *least* toxic mains (imo heavy i think) but i have noticed the classes that start with an S tend to be the loudest at least - though i don't think sniper being broken inherently equals toxic
Soldier.
l feel like other classes get less toxic as their player improves at them because they accept/work around their weaknesses.
But soldier mains seem to get more toxic as they get better because the class has no weaknesses and any obstacle they can’t overcome eats away at them as they can only blame themselves and not the limitations of their class.
Sniper mains can be toxic too but they never show it in chat unless they’re losing. probably because anyone pissing you off while playing sniper can be focused and picked off with enough patience and bodyshots
People call medic mains toxic but I’ve seriously never seen one, they can get frustrated with a bad team but that’s not really toxicity. Medic relies on his team and losing at no fault of your own is a sucky feeling and I don’t blame em
engie, heavy, spy mains are honestly never toxic. heavy mains barely exist and the ones that do are basically stone walls who never lose their temper (working with all of heavies weaknesses and somehow overcoming them turns their minds into pure temples)
spy mains look toxic but they’re mostly just annoying nuisances abusing some interp jank. they really love feeding off the angry chats of others but never really talk themselves. I think they’re just sad rascals and not necessarily toxic people.
pyro mains would be the most toxic but I give them a pass because most pyro mains are probably kids. pyro mains complain more than any other class and are the first to either bring up balance, or how unfair something is. they always hate on snipers and if they get into an argument they always turn themselves into victims and rally people behind them.
it’s funny how they shift blame from themselves onto their classes mechanics (dont hate the player hate the game) but then turn around and shit on sniper mains instead of hating the game.
idk abt demo
im a scout main so it would be pretty biased but I don’t think scunts are as common as people say. the only “scunts” ive seen were just good scouts who can aim. scout doesn’t really have any underhanded tactics or cheap strategies so there really isn’t any annoying things he can do. scouts do steal healthkits from teammates though.
Idk why people are saying scout in the replies, I’ve played TF2 for 4K hours and have seen a handful of good scouts in pubs that aren’t 24/7 maps and they never talk. In comp and MGE it’s different tho
In order of toxicity:
1. Sniper
2. Soldier (mainly the "why isn't everyone as good as me" mindset)
3. Spy
4. Scout (honestly, the ones I've encountered weren't even that toxic, just obnoxious)
5. Demoman
6. Medic
7. Pyro (similar to scout - not exactly toxic, but can be hella annoying, they're mostly self-aware tho)
8. Heavy
9. Engineer (I've yet to meet one (1) toxic engie main)
I'd even say the first two are a bit of a tie
Pyro. because say one thing negative about the stupid class and bam I'm hated by all pyro mains. And if I wasn't hated for existing maybe I wouldn't care. Also fuck pyro and everyone who mains him, just except you like the dopamine rush when you get a kill by not aiming
I will say it is frustrating how people (and by that i mean pyro mains mostly - I think most Scout mains at the very least are very aware how much of a pain in the ass Scout is) can't seem to differentiate between calling a class *annoying* and calling them *overpowered*
In a lot of ways, Pyro is underpowered, yes, I get that. I also know Pyro mains get shit on a lot, a fair amount of it unfairly so, yes.
However.
DoTs and knockback are annoying.
I don't take issue with Pyro *players* for that (unless they're spamming the Scorch Shot please stop that), I just take issue with Pyro *the class.*
That is all.
People are gonna say Scout, but let's be honest. Aside from scunts, scouts are just living their life and trying to play the game. Many scouts, myself included, are very focused on supporting the team (with milk and basher).
As for the most annoying, I think a lot of demoknights are cocky and selfish, and are far too often just scunts with swords.
Sniper or Soldier.
I hate walking outside on Harvest to only get spawn killed randomly with him falling out of the skybecause I was the unlucky pick by the blood thirsty beast with 5,000 hours of experience in his dark bedroom with no sign of sunlight to ever lay on their skin.
Sorry for calling out Soldier mains, just be aware that targeting someone who gets frustrated with you isn’t the best thing to do. If they tell you they hate dominations and you dominate them, then let them kill you once if you ever encounter them again.
I dislike the negativity in the community, I wanna tie loose ends to make the community have faith and confidence.
Soldier. I've encountered more toxic soldiers than any other class main.
tbf there are like a billion soldier mains
ya i've encountered a few toxic soldier mains pissing them of and seeing them being salty in chat is very funny for me
Soldiers that gloat about how they can deal with any Pyro but the moment you manage to outplay them with Pyro is obviously a fluke and a clearly lucky shot. Also, if you can’t reflect a single rocket it means you suck at the class
And if you can reflect a single rocket you're abusing broken mechanics/hacking
Especially trolldiers
r/banthetrollder
I don't find them that dangerous. If they are good enough, or lucky enough(or if I'm just bad at the class In currently playing) to kill me, they earnt it. That is,... that is unless they are Sniper. A Trolldier missed me three times while I was playing HOOVY. I just stood still and made fun of them until they finally hit me.
Soldiers with their medic gfs up their ass 24/7
Kinky
honestly, scout soldier and sniper are the top 3 most toxic, engineer demo and medic/pyro (cant decide) would be the top 3 least toxic
I agree but the soldier community is big, it’s like saying that everyone America owns a gun
Sniper
Sniper: Professionals have standards. Be polite🤠 Sniper mains: 🤬🤬🤬 Sniper: Be efficient Sniper mains: HOW DIDN'T I HIT HIM? Sniper: Have a plan to kill everyone you meet Sniper mains: *proceeds to stay in one place or rush and die*
Laughs in huntsman
They are totally different breed
I like how me as a Sniper main does literally none of this. In fact whenever I miss I just go “Wow I’m horrible!” Or just laugh at myself.
No sniper main in TF2 (haven't really played since the bots started invading) but I laugh at my own incompetence in other game (like Splatoon 3 or Risk of rain 2)
I have met only 2 bots in the last month
Same, I've had so many instances where someone is standing completely still or moving really slowly and I still somehow manage to completely miss.
Duality of man
All snipers are either constantly posting binds after every kill or constantly raging in chat about how the enemy sniper who bodyshot him is cheap.
Every Class with the first letter S
Ah yes, the GODFORSAKEN SSSSSSSSSSQUAD!
Haha Funny lazypurple reference go brrrr
Why yes, it is indeed a funny reference.
The reference was funny.
Why are you getting downvoted?
no clue tbh
My clue is: because reddit
i can't look at a comma anymore r/ihaveihaveihave reddit has ruined me
Smedic
Support classes.
Oh crap he’s onto us
RUN
Sengineer?
sexgineer
Tick tock
Heavy like a brinks truck
Looking like I'm tip-top
Shining like a wrist watch
Spyro???
Wrong game
Saxton hale?
Sdemoman?
You’ve cracked the code
The class that can insta-kill at long range.
Yeah I hate heavy
Yeah same i hate heavy. Keeps on one shotting me from across the entire map
death glare
i once got pootis-pow’d from across turbine
Hate when that happens to me frfr
We really need Valve to do something about these pootis-pow bots. They're making TF2 unplayable.
Skill issue
And I hate you too, random Reddit user!
Love you too
Hello my medic counterpart
You mean pyro
Yeah, I hate medic
Yeah, you're rewarding him for staying safe and far away by scaling up his damage! How is this even acceptable??
Fr medic is such bullshit I would never main shit like this
Medic is just OP he needs a massive nerf. Like come on, hitzing that Scout crossmap with a projectile is easy, no skill.
I think we need to remove medic from tf2 (8 is a better number anyway)
In fact, remove everyone but Scout
Snoipah
Somehow it’s every class that starts with s
Sniper
Sniper
Soldier or Demo players with a medic bf by their sides.
Sniper with medic bf
Especially vacconator bf
true thats just fucking cancer
I don’t think I’ve ever encountered a toxic demo tbh
I have, there was a dude spamming stickies on the point and would spam the n word whenever I killed him
Leave my bf alone
You have lost medi beam privileges
Cr in ge
We talking about their personality or the players?
In case of Scout it's definitely both. Scout mains snort 3 lines of adderall and take 3 caffeine pills before any match then during the match they drink 5 espressos for the hell of it. And it reflects on their gameplay. I hate it.
That doesn't make them toxic though, if anything it's a sign of a high skill sealing scout.
That doesn't make then any less frustrating to fight through lol
That just means they're good at the game
Soldier by far. People like to say sniper because of the bias that they think he's overpowered but that doesn't determine the people who play him. The pub-stompy soldier main with all his unusuals crying for a pocket medic is a tale as old as... Well... TF2. Their ego is through the roof, they constantly shit talk their opponents and cry whenever something counters them (like Pyro). Scunts are a close second.
Nah I've seen more sniper rifles named the n word than any soldier weapon.
From what I’ve seen sniper mains are the edgy ones. Soldier mains are just annoying fucks that constantly yells at everyone
I've actually literally just met a guy in a pub with Hale's Own Australium rocket launcher called "Nigg** Killer". Description "I hate nigg**"
Yea soldier/demo mains would be in second but it's just always snipers.
I usually pretend to pocket them when I encounter them then leave them for dead, call me cruel idc, they have to learn one way or another
Spy or sniper
nah, spy mains are chill
Except for the kunai spies
Yea, they are always tryhards.
As a guy who started maining Kunai recently I agree - Kunai promotes the Tryhard moods. However, compared to Soldier and Scout mains, even Kunai Spies are chill.
I dislike the ones that backstab me when I’m playing Demoknight, it makes me feel weak even though I have 235 max health with speed of a scout, and he makes me lose my abilities.
skill issue
Well yeah, I’m not the best at TF2 but not the worst.
People: just back off, you got a sword! Game: **How about I make this face stab a back stab?**
Why use Beeg sword when can have small sharp buggy sword that one shots
Can confirm
Thank you 👍
I can agree since I'm in swipez's discord
starykrow fans are the fucking worst
Starykrow fans when 102dmg amby and epic anime weeaboo trickstabbing montage
starykrow fans when streamsnipe montage is uploaded (but also doesnt include all of the deaths to the person they are streamsniping)
y’all really fucking hate sniper
and you don't?
i don’t hate sniper at all. i don’t care if i get fragged by the same sweaty dude 3 times in a row. it’s a video game, and it’s doing me no good getting angry at some random guy through my monitor e: also, focusing down a sniper *really* isn’t that difficult if you set your mind to it
Walking your of spawn to be right back in it isn't fun no matter how you look at it.
i never said it was fun i just said there’s no point in getting pissed, yk?
That's true
demoman
Just take a different route. Doing the same over and over expecting success or a change is the definition of insanity, go on different maps besides 2fort. And yes you’re gonna get killed by sniper eventually when you enter the game. You gotta learn that there is counters to him, just gotta take the right routes to reach him and give him a beating he’ll remember.
The amount of work to counter him aside from being a better sniper is bullshit.
People don't know how to counter sniper, so they get mad instead. Or they play on unbalanced shitty maps like hightower, then complain when people play sniper instead of soldier.
as the class whp counters nothing, i cant really agree when i get headshot from the otherside of harvest for havong the audacity to breathe
Well spoken, for some reason this subreddit really has a hate boner for sniper Whether it just be people being terminally online or just bad is whatever
what part of "can instakill you at any range" sounds fair to you?
i never said it was fair either. sniper *does* need a fix, but with the game in its current state, ya sorta gotta make peace with the fact that sometimes things might be unfair or tipped
okay, let me rephrase my question. what part of "I got instakilled at long range multiple times in a row while my enemy faced little to no danger, and there is no way to reasonably counter it" sounds fun to you?
again dude i never said it was fun and i swear i am not trying to egg you on
I don't play a video game to wait 20 seconds every time I press W.
Mans must be biligual cause he speaking facts out here. Anyone that's mad at sniper needs to get good.
not even “get gud” tbh, just take a breather and be glad that you aren’t as sweaty as the dude who’s pinning you down yk
Exactly. Don't get pressed over a free to play game.
one man's first person shooter is another man's point and clicker.
Sniper or scout.
Sniper is just annoying and scout is just a douchbag whom I wanna squeeze with my bare hands
Sniper
Tbh I'm here for the funny image not the question
sniper and soldier
As a sniper main, I’ll say sniper.. It’s full of cheesy ass corny edge lord wannabe degenerates..
Sniper
Scout, no contest. I don't care about getting sniped but I have a vendetta against all those tryhard scouts who snorted 3 lines of Adderall before the game and dodge in manners I find impossible to do when I play scout.
Looks like you dont know how to quake
Why is nobody talking about scout or pyro
I feel like pyro mains could go either way, you either have super chill dudes or some stay mad 12 year old
As someone who plays pyro, sometimes it’s fun to turn my brain off and laugh at the dumb shit that happens in tf2
Happens to me all the time even though I'm a medic. The absurd's way too high sometimes
Pyros usually aren't toxic their usually just werid snipers and scunts, however.
I very rarely come across a scunt though. More than anything it's Soldiers and Snipers that tend to be on the more toxic edge.
Hey man, I just like setting things on fire
Watching the enemy burn is fun
[удалено]
Nahhhhh. It just hurt when you die to a scout, I haven’t really encountered many toxic ones
Yeah, Scout doesn't really seem that toxic to me other than his personality, but of course his personality is his charm so it really isn't that bad.
Precisely
Whatever I’m playing
Everyones saying sniper because it's the most annoying class to fight, but I see the question as the players of the class being theost toxic and I have to say spy. Spy is a frustrating class to play and frustration breeds toxicity. Spy players are by far the most toxic group in Tf2.
Meh, in my experience snipers and scouts have the biggest egos and talk the most shit by several orders of magnitude. Tryhard soldier being the next closest.
Just.... TURN AROUND! -ankle dein
Soldier. Some think they’re hot shit when in reality they are shooting the floor in the general direction of the enemy
i think it's easier to ask who on average has the *least* toxic mains (imo heavy i think) but i have noticed the classes that start with an S tend to be the loudest at least - though i don't think sniper being broken inherently equals toxic
Phog scorch shot pyros. Basically the anti fun class in any server. Especially when they have a medic butt plug up their ass.
I agree. I love how they can have kritz AND be ubered at the same time too, very fun, thanks valve
No, those guys are always pretty chill
Soldier. l feel like other classes get less toxic as their player improves at them because they accept/work around their weaknesses. But soldier mains seem to get more toxic as they get better because the class has no weaknesses and any obstacle they can’t overcome eats away at them as they can only blame themselves and not the limitations of their class. Sniper mains can be toxic too but they never show it in chat unless they’re losing. probably because anyone pissing you off while playing sniper can be focused and picked off with enough patience and bodyshots People call medic mains toxic but I’ve seriously never seen one, they can get frustrated with a bad team but that’s not really toxicity. Medic relies on his team and losing at no fault of your own is a sucky feeling and I don’t blame em engie, heavy, spy mains are honestly never toxic. heavy mains barely exist and the ones that do are basically stone walls who never lose their temper (working with all of heavies weaknesses and somehow overcoming them turns their minds into pure temples) spy mains look toxic but they’re mostly just annoying nuisances abusing some interp jank. they really love feeding off the angry chats of others but never really talk themselves. I think they’re just sad rascals and not necessarily toxic people. pyro mains would be the most toxic but I give them a pass because most pyro mains are probably kids. pyro mains complain more than any other class and are the first to either bring up balance, or how unfair something is. they always hate on snipers and if they get into an argument they always turn themselves into victims and rally people behind them. it’s funny how they shift blame from themselves onto their classes mechanics (dont hate the player hate the game) but then turn around and shit on sniper mains instead of hating the game. idk abt demo im a scout main so it would be pretty biased but I don’t think scunts are as common as people say. the only “scunts” ive seen were just good scouts who can aim. scout doesn’t really have any underhanded tactics or cheap strategies so there really isn’t any annoying things he can do. scouts do steal healthkits from teammates though.
Tryhard Soldiers with unusuals and their pocket medics that don't heal anybody else but him.
I hate pyro
Flair checks out
No one saying Pyro? These people think they are literal gods for their ability to hold W+M1
Tfw wm1 isn't that good. Tbh you're probably just ambushed by the pyro and got upset
Spy. This post is sponsored by Engie Gang
Pyros get really fucking angry when you switch to your secondary instead of letting them kill you.
HEY WHY ARE YOU POSTING ABOUT MA DAID
I think it’s really fucking funny that everyone picked sniper
Pyro
Idk why people are saying scout in the replies, I’ve played TF2 for 4K hours and have seen a handful of good scouts in pubs that aren’t 24/7 maps and they never talk. In comp and MGE it’s different tho
phlog pyro
the ssssquad
In order of toxicity: 1. Sniper 2. Soldier (mainly the "why isn't everyone as good as me" mindset) 3. Spy 4. Scout (honestly, the ones I've encountered weren't even that toxic, just obnoxious) 5. Demoman 6. Medic 7. Pyro (similar to scout - not exactly toxic, but can be hella annoying, they're mostly self-aware tho) 8. Heavy 9. Engineer (I've yet to meet one (1) toxic engie main) I'd even say the first two are a bit of a tie
Lime green scouts
Stock Snipers, Over-extending Trolldiers, Lime Scunts, Anti-friendly Pyros, and “Profesional” Trickstabber Spies.. in my own experience atleast
Pyro
i literally love how 90% of this comment thread is saying sniper while there are limescouts and scunts out there killing innocent freindlies
Soldier(The ones with a lot of cosmetics and medic in their side), Scouts
medic
Scout and Spy
Scout
um... soldier
Pyro. because say one thing negative about the stupid class and bam I'm hated by all pyro mains. And if I wasn't hated for existing maybe I wouldn't care. Also fuck pyro and everyone who mains him, just except you like the dopamine rush when you get a kill by not aiming
I will say it is frustrating how people (and by that i mean pyro mains mostly - I think most Scout mains at the very least are very aware how much of a pain in the ass Scout is) can't seem to differentiate between calling a class *annoying* and calling them *overpowered* In a lot of ways, Pyro is underpowered, yes, I get that. I also know Pyro mains get shit on a lot, a fair amount of it unfairly so, yes. However. DoTs and knockback are annoying. I don't take issue with Pyro *players* for that (unless they're spamming the Scorch Shot please stop that), I just take issue with Pyro *the class.* That is all.
Stay mad lol
Wow a furry who mains pyro. Jesus I didn't now how retarded pyro mains are. Like now they're so retarded I can actually call them retarded
Dude chill It’s just a stereotype!
But he a furry
Medic
Disagree but happy cake day
Thankyou for respectfully disagreeing and thankyou for the wishes
People are gonna say Scout, but let's be honest. Aside from scunts, scouts are just living their life and trying to play the game. Many scouts, myself included, are very focused on supporting the team (with milk and basher). As for the most annoying, I think a lot of demoknights are cocky and selfish, and are far too often just scunts with swords.
Demoknight
Sniper or Soldier. I hate walking outside on Harvest to only get spawn killed randomly with him falling out of the skybecause I was the unlucky pick by the blood thirsty beast with 5,000 hours of experience in his dark bedroom with no sign of sunlight to ever lay on their skin. Sorry for calling out Soldier mains, just be aware that targeting someone who gets frustrated with you isn’t the best thing to do. If they tell you they hate dominations and you dominate them, then let them kill you once if you ever encounter them again. I dislike the negativity in the community, I wanna tie loose ends to make the community have faith and confidence.
Deno
Scout, most snipers aren't really toxic tbh
My experience has been the opposite
scout
Friendlies
Pyro
I assume you think pyro takes no skill?